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  • Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
  • Tom, Sam, and Zee discuss the games they were hyped about and turned out to be disappointment!
    00:00 - Introduction
    02:48 - Sam’s #10
    05:02 - Tom’s #10
    06:06 - Zee’s #10
    07:00 - Tom’s #9
    07:59 - Zee’s #9
    09:19 - Sam’s #9
    11:19 - Zee’s #8
    12:44 - Sam’s #8
    13:57 - Tom’s #8
    15:12 - Zee’s #7
    17:04 - Tom’s #7
    18:31 - Sam’s #7
    20:24 - Tom’s #6
    22:22 - Sam’s #6
    23:51 - Zee’s #6
    25:44 - Tom’s #5
    28:59 - Zee’s #5
    30:07 - Tom’s #5
    31:19 - Sam’s #4
    33:23 - Tom’s #4
    35:14 - Zee’s #4
    37:00 - Tom’s #3
    39:00 - Zee’s #3
    41:40 - Sam’s #3
    43:58 - Zee’s #2
    46:46 - Sam’s #2
    49:03 - Tom’s #2
    52:01 - Sam’s #1
    54:11 - Tom’s #1
    56:05 - Zee’s #1
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 860

  • @marceldouwstra5847
    @marceldouwstra5847 7 років тому +194

    Now do a list the other way round.. Top 10 games you didn't think you'd like, but you did!

  • @Mandrake42
    @Mandrake42 7 років тому +14

    I love the way Tom just puts his hat over his eyes and sits back when Zee says Eldritch Horror ;)

  • @EclecticCamel
    @EclecticCamel 7 років тому +37

    War of the Ring is awesome. It's a game that rewards patience. It isn't meant to be Risk.

    • @Pengi_SMILES
      @Pengi_SMILES 7 років тому +1

      TheGreatHamEl agree. And if it didn't have the element that Sam doesn't like it wouldn't reflect the source material and wouldnt be half the game it is.

    • @Subtrendy
      @Subtrendy 7 років тому

      I'm kind of surprised they didn't like it. It's pretty similar to Star Wars Rebellion, which they really seemed to enjoy. Maybe LOTR just isn't their jam.

    • @stm12p
      @stm12p 7 років тому +6

      Agree. The dice tower guys just dont have a strategy to play as The fellowship. They didn't even know that they can speed up the At war token move down so quickly just by strategically positioned troops. And making war against Sauron army is suicidal since fellowship troops wont re-spawn. The key is to slow down Sauron army so that Frodo can reach Mordor, by wage a defending war. No one in his right mind would ride to the battle field agains unlimited number of Orc, Uruk hai and Goblins. Elf, Dwarf can also try to back stab Sauron if they are too care free marching against other nations. The fellowship of the Ring only needs 4 military points to win.
      They simply dont like it because they dont know how to play it properly lolzzzz

    • @asantos1
      @asantos1 7 років тому

      I completely agree with you

    • @ramonosuke
      @ramonosuke 6 років тому

      Haven't played the game, but seeing how it works and loving the source material, I will agree with you too. I also think War of the Ring and Battle of the Five Armies can fit in the same collection

  • @joshuaschulz3897
    @joshuaschulz3897 7 років тому +3

    The next time you do any games you don't like, I want Sam and Zee to collude and pick all of Tom's top 20 games, just to punk him. That would be awesome.

  • @BladeKyt
    @BladeKyt 7 років тому +9

    I wonder, whether or not i will ever got tired of you three talking about board games. Nowadays, I don't even play that much but I still love listening to you three.

  • @feenix1803
    @feenix1803 7 років тому +8

    My favourite 'Top 10' list to date. I don't agree with all the choices, but great break-down of what YOU don't like. Very informative.

  • @DrewVogel069
    @DrewVogel069 7 років тому +79

    10. War of the Ring / Alcatraz: Scape Goat / Tikal II
    9. B-Sieged: Sons of the Abyss / Lady Alice / Shadows of Normandie
    8. Mad Zeppelin / Flash Point: Fire Rescue / Anachronism
    7. Dead of Winter / Rattle, Battle, Grab the Loot / Colt Express
    6. Dungeon Lords / Race for the Galaxy / Tales of the Arabian Nights
    5. Dark Moon / The Witcher Adventure Games / Level 7 [Escape]
    4. Die Macher / Ninja: Legend of the Scorpion Clan / Red November
    3. I am Vlad: Prince of Wallachia / XCOM: The Board Game / The Others: 7 Sins
    2. Eldritch Horror / Duel of Ages / Cargo Noir
    1. Lords of Xidit / Runewars / SeaFall

  • @ashleepradella4912
    @ashleepradella4912 7 років тому +52

    Would love to see a list of games you thought you'd dislike and then played and really enjoyed it...from memory you haven't done a list like that yet :)
    For me my biggest disappointments have been Caverna (Just didn't like the theme, plus thought there were too many options), Flip City (I just don't think I like small deckbuilders), and Imperial Settlers (My own fault, I hate games that have mechanics like Imperial Settlers but got so caught up in the hype and bought it).
    And whoever put that card in Eldrich Horror "Lose all your progress" is a crazy person hahaa!!! Soooo agree with you Zee

    • @John-rv2qe
      @John-rv2qe 7 років тому +5

      Castles of Burgundy tops that list for me. Art work is boring. Too many pieces. Odd theme. BUT WOW! Can't get enough of it now. Great game.

    • @ashleepradella4912
      @ashleepradella4912 7 років тому +2

      For me it's 7 wonders... for some reason I hated it the first several times I played. I ended up playing it more and more because a friend had it and always wanted to play and now I am OBSESSED!! haha it's funny how these things work out.

    • @AndyVandercoy
      @AndyVandercoy 7 років тому

      Ashlee Cramb I agree on that. I think I love Duel even more with my wife it hits the coffee table often.

    • @AndyVandercoy
      @AndyVandercoy 7 років тому

      John Brody played the card game version? I may have to pick this up

    • @John-rv2qe
      @John-rv2qe 7 років тому

      I have not played the card version of Burgundy yet. Hopefully this X-mas!

  • @likwified
    @likwified 7 років тому +3

    I'm a little girl from Italy. I Am Vlad is my favorite game of all time. You have stabbed my heart.

  • @Trevin_Taylor
    @Trevin_Taylor 7 років тому +23

    Zee, have you tried the fully cooperative variant (official, included with game) of Dead of Winter? It's exactly what you're asking for. There are no secret objectives and the scenario is harder. The hard objective is on the back of the card. For example, the 1st scenario where you must get 8 samples is changed to 12 samples in fewer rounds. No traitor, no secret objective, fully co-op but harder missions. Exactly what you said. Try it.

    • @Clydelyng
      @Clydelyng 7 років тому +4

      Trevin Taylor that variant is way to easy though. Sadly Dead of Winther is a borderline broken game.

    • @Trevin_Taylor
      @Trevin_Taylor 7 років тому

      Lyng if you think it's too easy, make it harder. change the 12 samples to 16 samples. start with 1 less round and 2 less starting cards. it's very simple to turn up the difficulty in that game. start with lower morale, more zombies on the board, or less items in the location deck. you can tweak it to make it tougher very easily.

    • @BrandonGraham
      @BrandonGraham 7 років тому +2

      Seriously... how did the three of them not know about this?
      Also, it seems super thematic that everyone has their own mischievous goal and may or may not betray you in a post-apocalyptic world. There are other reasons why I can see people don't like it... but that makes a ton of sense.

    • @Trevin_Taylor
      @Trevin_Taylor 7 років тому +2

      Brandon Graham absolutely. i would totally hoard medication in a zombie world. it absolutely makes sense.

    • @sarahlanger2605
      @sarahlanger2605 7 років тому +3

      Zee doesn't dislike the traitor aspect in Dead of Winter, he dislikes how it tries to make the traitor work by giving everybody tratorish objectives.

  • @WylliamJudd
    @WylliamJudd 7 років тому +5

    I enjoy playing Dead of Winter in coop mode, where you play hardcore, and you don't use the hidden objective cards. The game is still really good - it's fun to figure out what sacrifices you need to make as a group to survive.

  • @dregen77
    @dregen77 7 років тому +7

    As for my list of disappointments (not in specific order):
    - Spyfall (fell flat every time I played it)
    - Dead of Winter (Very much for the same reasons that Zee explains so eloquently)
    - 1830 (I was told this was a perfect game with zero randomness, etc. To me, it felt like going to work)
    - Mistfall (The game mechanics weren't exciting at all)
    - Tides of Time (I get it, it's a short filler and that's excatly what I got, problem is all reviews said it was SO good with just 15 cards. It's not that good. It's just okay.)
    - Russian Railroads (I am not a big fan of Euros, but I do like some of them. I actually fell asleep while playing this one: the theme could be anything else, and I just found it to be an overcomplication of euro mechanics just because. At the end of the game I still had not figured out how the different train tracks scored. I know that's my fault, but this is also my list, so there's that.)
    - Tiny Epic Kingdoms (It sold the 4x feeling in just 30 minutes. Sorry, but it doesn't even come close, and after a few plays it looked like all it had to offer, we had already seen.)
    - A Study In Emerald 2.0 (I had heard so many rave review for the first edition of this game. Somebody brought the second edition to play and I think nobody liked it much at that table. I don't know how it compares to 1st Ed. but in this one everything seemed to be too obvious.)
    - Project Elite (Not a bad game, but seems too random and confusing. I'd play again, but it sure was disappointing to me.)
    - Shadows of Brimstone (The theme seemed original and cool enough, but it's so much a dice fest that I end up getting bored. I'd choose other alternatives over this one for Dungeon Crawl.)

  • @petermobius
    @petermobius 7 років тому

    You guys rock! One of my fav top 10's after years of watching. Patreon tip..whatever you want to call it is heading your way. Thanks again!

  • @nyulgaming
    @nyulgaming 7 років тому +15

    Can this be considered a remake of an older video "Top 10 Dissapointing Games" from 2013?

    • @Trevin_Taylor
      @Trevin_Taylor 7 років тому +3

      Adam those they didnt necessarily go in "wanting" to like it. this might (although didnt) include games you actually like, but didnt live up to the hype.

  • @forsaken667
    @forsaken667 7 років тому

    I have a suggestion for a Top Ten video I would LOVE to see :)
    A Top Ten player count list!
    i.e. At No.10 you would discuss your best games at player count 10.
    At No.5 you would discuss your best games at player count 5 and so on!

  • @WCP4to
    @WCP4to 7 років тому +1

    Another awesome top 10! Thank you!
    However, I was hoping for the same quality as the "Top 10 Anticipated Essen Spiel 2016 Games" regarding the titles and Games' cover and stuff. You will always have my like but I really liked that one because of that.
    Keep the awesome work!

    • @twenty-sidedturtle2107
      @twenty-sidedturtle2107 7 років тому +1

      WCP4to So you're saying you were disappointed by this Top Ten? I'll let myself out.

    • @WCP4to
      @WCP4to 7 років тому

      I was disappointed by its presentation since there were better ones before, but I love all to 10's!

  • @trevorcummins6657
    @trevorcummins6657 7 років тому +1

    Now that we have "Top 10 Disappointing Games" and "Top 10 Games We Wanted to Like, But Didn't", we really need "Top 10 Games That Failed to Meet Expectations", "Top 10 Games We Hoped Would Be Better", and "Top 10 Disappointing Games 2: Electric Boogaloo"

  • @fnorddiscord
    @fnorddiscord 7 років тому

    You guys really cracked me up with this one! Funniest video yet. Very enjoyable. Thanks!

  • @adrianpop4809
    @adrianpop4809 7 років тому +14

    It's funny how Sam complains about 'The Others: 7 Sins' glorifying something or other, but then he loves games that glorify the carnage of the second world war.

    • @tomasxfranco
      @tomasxfranco 5 років тому

      Well. He does take his myths too seriously.

    • @ZombieGrizzly
      @ZombieGrizzly 5 років тому

      agree completely. In a lot of ways, I think the war stuff is more morbid and disturbing personally.

  • @syphaeightfive3462
    @syphaeightfive3462 7 років тому +1

    I really enjoy your top 10 lists! Thank you for the video!... Would be cool to see oposite of this too... top 10 I like but no one else does... Or, top 10 games I LOVE but never want to play again (in my case, Catan). Thanx again, really enjoyed the video...

  • @jaysoncurry5434
    @jaysoncurry5434 5 років тому +4

    "Maybe that Arkham Horror card game will be the one?" -Zee
    This aged well :)

  • @Chronon88
    @Chronon88 7 років тому

    Thanks for this video. Exactly the format what I hope you will do more. Not that into individual reviews due my low purchase rate so it was really great to hear about so many ames the same time.
    (Also nice to hear Dead of Winter and Eldritch Horror were in there despite hearing good stuff about them; even played the former a few times).

  • @jesseokane347
    @jesseokane347 7 років тому

    for colt express we had similar difficulties for some players but found that simply arranging the carriages in a semi circle gave better access and made their contents more visable

  • @madelainemartiniscanino2997
    @madelainemartiniscanino2997 7 років тому +17

    War of the Ring? Really? Sam I hate you!
    Just kidding lol, just commenting because Tom told me to on the vid. Sam, love you!

  • @mgk2020
    @mgk2020 6 років тому +21

    "Maybe that Arkham Horror card game will be the one." Good news, Past Zee...

    • @adelfaidah3224
      @adelfaidah3224 4 роки тому +1

      its so good how nonchalantly he said those words and now its literally in his top 10 of all time

  • @avj317
    @avj317 7 років тому +7

    Agricola! lol! thats the major one for me :)

  • @jenspoder8322
    @jenspoder8322 7 років тому

    What a great list! This was a blast :) And what a great idea to get some catharsis from sharing your worst disappointments.
    My top 3 would be:
    1) King of New York: Took a brilliant and funny and fast game and made it convoluted and long. I had been looking SO much forward to this.
    2) Descent: Bought a load of boxes of this expecting great things. This was just not for me. I hated being the overlord. Everything looked great, but the gameplay was just so annoying. Get knocked down. Get up again. Get knocked down again.
    3) Imperial Settlers: This was just going to be the greatest. Looked so amazing and everyone was reviewing it like it was pure gold. Fell totally flat for me. Ended up selling it after one play-through.

  • @shawncameron9514
    @shawncameron9514 7 років тому +3

    I love Xidit, and what Sam is complaining about is one of my favorite aspects. You HAVE to anticipate your opponents moves.

  • @NeilBlaiberg
    @NeilBlaiberg 7 років тому +2

    Love Tom's reaction at the mention of Eldritch Horror!

  • @EpicGamingNight
    @EpicGamingNight 7 років тому +5

    I normally agree with Sam a lot but I love the political track in war of the ring! It is very thematic! But battle of the five armies is cool too so where good! 😝

  • @gordachi
    @gordachi 7 років тому +6

    I don't know what you guys are talking about, I am Vlad can be really fun! You just need to add a few components that most people would have lying around their house. Like an oven. Or a fireplace.

    • @mrskwid1
      @mrskwid1 7 років тому

      gordachi hehe i see what you did there.

  • @Superslemmet
    @Superslemmet 6 років тому +2

    Heh, got that card that removes all your progress in Eldrich Horror the second time I played it. Like, two turns after drawing that card we all realised the card could as well have said "You lose".
    Continuing playing after getting that was pretty pointless. But other than that card, I think Eldrich Horror is great fun. Easy to learn and not too lengthy.

  • @rigamarolexq
    @rigamarolexq 7 років тому

    Just to make sure, 당나귀 똥 (in the background, over Sam's shoulder), is Los Mampfos, right?

  • @SamTheWai
    @SamTheWai 7 років тому +2

    In War of the Ring, it really makes thematic sense that you need to convince the people to go war politically. It took a lot of convincing to get Rohan and Gordon to go to war.

  • @benco804
    @benco804 4 роки тому

    I feel the same way you guys do about so many games. A game will come out with awesome artwork, an awesome theme and an awesome concept and then all it turns out to be is another way to push cubes or trade silk or something. So many games are just hollow or repeat experiences.

  • @lasttruegypsy
    @lasttruegypsy 7 років тому +4

    Cargo Noir would be my #1 for sure. I said that out loud when you guys began explaining how you made your lists. I am glad it made Tom's list at #2. Other games that would make my list would be
    #2 - Tzolkin: The Mayan Calendar
    #3 - Terra Mystica
    #4 - Five Tribes
    #5 - Thurn and Taxis
    #6 - B-Seiged
    #7 - Tin Goose
    #8 - Lords of Xidit
    #9 - Tiny Epic Kingdoms
    #10 - Edo
    Some of these are good games, but I expected too much.

    • @fredmcmack
      @fredmcmack 7 років тому +2

      Tzolkin: The Mayan Calendar is a fantastic game. Still don't get the hype around Terra Mystica though. I've heard Tin Goose takes a couple plays to grok. Edo is also terrific, although I prefer Maharaja.

    • @ashleymcmullin1892
      @ashleymcmullin1892 7 років тому

      último cigano verdadeiro I can see why one would not like Tzolkin, it is one board game that the better player will almost ALWAYS win, which makes it very niche and not a great game to play unless everyone is very competitive and even matched. I watched a lot of games played online by following Tzolkin masters with thousands of games and it is remarkable how big the gap gets between players. I would recommend the expansion as it makes the game a little more forgiving to most gamers. Unless you just really hated it 😃

    • @lasttruegypsy
      @lasttruegypsy 7 років тому

      Unfortunately I really hated it. Maybe I should try it again because I only played it once. But it left such a bad taste in my mouth that I have never gone back.

  • @Thermalburn
    @Thermalburn 7 років тому

    what does it mean when they say Euro-Gamey? I get that it means a game from europe but what does that entail

  • @lpgascon
    @lpgascon 7 років тому +2

    Colt Express is Amazing! I think they should make a Collectors Giant Version for Sam

  • @hondito
    @hondito 7 років тому

    Excellent reaction, Tom, to Zee's number 2!!
    I'm almost always with Zee, but Eldritch is so good! You crazy!

    • @hondito
      @hondito 7 років тому

      And 2 player Eldritch is always 2 hours or less for us.

  • @2112dorf
    @2112dorf 7 років тому

    Can you guys do a top 10 games by (insert company name or designer name here). You got me interested when you mentioned certain companies were "firing on all cylinders", and I think it would be cool to know your favorites.

  • @calaban9
    @calaban9 7 років тому

    We changed the rule on Rattle Battle a little.. everyone can hold back one or two dice after the drop and drop them in from the side while aiming and trying to manipulate the . Took it to another level.

  • @a1investigations433
    @a1investigations433 7 років тому +1

    Completely agree with Zee on Eldritch Horror. Sold it after 1 and 1/2 plays. The Others is great for what Sam dislikes it for, plus great mechanisms. I've not played a more tense game no matter what side you play on. (It's cool if you don't like the Others for theme, though)

  • @Trevin_Taylor
    @Trevin_Taylor 7 років тому +46

    Sam, for Colt Express, just use chopsticks. You should already have them at game night so people can eat messy snacks like Cheetos without ruining your components.

    • @Steve-L
      @Steve-L 7 років тому

      Board Game Breakfast had a segment on how to make a larger train for Colt Express, one could also easily create a 2D board.

    • @MindinViolet
      @MindinViolet 7 років тому +9

      I am now trying to visualise eating Cheetos with chopsticks.

    • @joaocamilo8106
      @joaocamilo8106 7 років тому +6

      Or he could just use The Force like the rest of us do, right?

    • @gamera2351
      @gamera2351 7 років тому

      What's wrong with putting your meeple next to the train car instead or in it? That's what my brother in law does.

    • @cursivecurses
      @cursivecurses 7 років тому

      With the expansion, there are horses next to the train cars, and players can ride on them, so I suspect it would get confusing real fast

  • @patcraig1637
    @patcraig1637 7 років тому +1

    Hey Zee! I've played Dead of Winter many times... and there were some crazy moments that I would put in my top 10 gaming experiences/moments. But there were more games that just kind of ended...and then we shrugged out shoulders and put it away. 9 out of 10 times, the game wasn't really memorable for me. For a game that long, I'd want there to be a story to tell more times than not. Also, the crossroad cards got old once you read through them all.

  • @Straddllw
    @Straddllw 7 років тому +2

    Out of the list, I really love Dead of Winter, Colt Express, Eldritch Horror, The Others: 7 Sins, Lords of Xidit. And I'm also really looking forward to playing Seafall. This is like a list of my favourite games. Sigh ...

    • @hardbathsalts3143
      @hardbathsalts3143 5 років тому

      You bear a striking resemblance to the internet historian.

  • @Inner2000
    @Inner2000 7 років тому +5

    This is truly one of the best segments on a long time. It was great to see you guys disagree, have fun and tell what you really feel for some games. This is all we want, true arguments about why you think a game is worth to ask money from us. Good job.

  • @bobpoly1034
    @bobpoly1034 7 років тому +1

    Is rune wars better or worse than warrior Knights?

  • @lariandrobert
    @lariandrobert 7 років тому +3

    Sam, Tom, Zee, it was interesting the number of times you said, "Art, amazing! Components, awesome! Theme, outstanding! Game-play, BLECH!" Are you ever tempted to just re-write the rules for any of these dogs, so they can meet your expectations?

  • @Twineandribbon
    @Twineandribbon 4 роки тому

    Runewars was my first Fantasy Flight game and remains a favorite - but that's in absence of any competition for similar games. I've never gotten a group to play Twilight imperium with me because of the advertised 9 hour game length. While I love the experience, it does feel like a prototype with good ideas and rough edges. It's good to know that if you like that style of game, it's been done better.

  • @jesseokane347
    @jesseokane347 7 років тому

    great call on Dead of Winter I personally found it more of a let down for the imbalance on the number of actions different players can have . we kept getting situations where one player would have like 8 dice while other players had 2

  • @DarthSironos
    @DarthSironos 6 років тому

    I haven't played The Others, what is it about it that he doesn't like? Does it glorify corruption points or?

  • @Mentat1231
    @Mentat1231 6 років тому +1

    "Also known as 'I am BAD'" makes me crack up laughing every time. It's perfect.

  • @MarcelPogorzelski
    @MarcelPogorzelski 7 років тому +1

    Again with the Race for the Galaxy thing. I played it once and all the icons where really easy to understand because they are explained on the cards! Just read the little info box when you don't immediately understand the meaning of the symbols.

  • @McBehrer
    @McBehrer 7 років тому +1

    42:35
    yeah. That's where the phrase "rub the wrong way" COMES from.

  • @ramonosuke
    @ramonosuke 4 роки тому +1

    Great list some definite ones for me would be:
    Cry Havoc
    Arboretum
    Apex Theropod Deck Building Game-Janky mess for rules really hurt this one
    Clank! In! Space!-Too long, with player elimination...not fun sorry
    New York Slice
    Mage Wars-way too convoluted for what it is

  • @VicLabs
    @VicLabs 7 років тому +1

    I'll jump on the Dead of Winter train. So much going for it, but just didn't click. A few times there was the perfect storm of crossroads card creating a hectic and/or hilarious situation. But the pandemic+roll for exposure gameplay was absolutely tedious.

  • @TheWillz02
    @TheWillz02 5 років тому

    GKR: heavy hitters.
    I was sooo pumped for this game! Looks AMAZING and reminded me of front mission a video game that I Loved but to me just felt flat, bought it played it once and havent played since.

  • @ashleyc3489
    @ashleyc3489 7 років тому

    Our little game group loves Rattle Battle. I know a more 'gamerly' perspective is to care about the randomness but we really never care who wins. We just love simulating a pirate adventure and grabbing loot and decking out our ships with outrageous upgrades. It's just fun!

  • @mogelyCowboyUp
    @mogelyCowboyUp 5 років тому

    What other game was Tom guessing what Sam's number one when he was talking about the math ups of different creatures and characters from all kind of time frames? I've heard him mention it before but I cannot rememeber what it is

  • @devincordek2553
    @devincordek2553 7 років тому

    I appreciate the little editing fix in post there about the gnomes. videos on UA-cam need little subtleties like that more tbh

  • @rockxhero
    @rockxhero 7 років тому

    I thought I'd really like Jamaica, & King of Tokyo, but they were just alright for me. Rattle, Battle... would make the list as well.
    You should do a list of "Games you Didn't Expect to Like - But Did!" For me that would def. include Love Letter, & Hive.

  • @erniemiller1953
    @erniemiller1953 7 років тому +1

    The one video i wanted to like, but -
    JUST KIDDING! You guys are great.

  • @ThorbenHendrik89
    @ThorbenHendrik89 7 років тому

    hey!
    I think it would be cool to put a list of the games in your description, so I can easily skip games I'm not interested in. Maybe you consider that in future

  • @Altodromo
    @Altodromo 7 років тому +1

    what the hell Zee! i like EH a lot!
    Nice video guys

  • @MarcelPogorzelski
    @MarcelPogorzelski 7 років тому +2

    I am glad I don't have to make the choices of what to buy blind. I order games for the gaming group I am in. The last two orders(about 10 games) were all hits. That's because of Dice Tower and Watch it Played. Do your research first and buy later if you don't want to waste money.
    Either way thank you for all the info you provide. Our gaming group is stacked with great games for every occasion because of the work you do.

  • @commandershepherd3467
    @commandershepherd3467 5 років тому

    Imperial Settlers. I love synergy building in games and I kept hearing how this was a great engine builder. It ended way too fast to really get any kind of engine going in my opinion. The good thing is I won it at a convention, so I didn’t pay for it. The bad thing is I had a choice between this and Manhattan Project: Energy Empire, and I’ll regret that choice until I eventually am able to purchase the one I passed up.

  • @tomasxfranco
    @tomasxfranco 5 років тому

    Sam, there are mechanics to activate the different nations before they are attacked.
    It's the idea of gathering/recruiting armies to your cause from the story.

  • @phillip2863
    @phillip2863 5 років тому +1

    For me it's gotta be Among the Stars. Everyone has different powers: great, I like that. Drafting: great, I like that. Trying to build good combos/synergies: great, I like that. Planning and managing placement: great, I like that. All signs pointed to something I'd enjoy but when I got into it the game really just felt like I was playing by myself and just happened to have other people around doing that too. It didn't feel like there was much interaction beyond drafting and the effects of the pieces were kind of bland and didn't really do anything exciting. Mostly just gaining more points, and yeah that's the goal of the game but it's not particularly fun in its execution. Really thought I'd like that one.

  • @The97gtrs
    @The97gtrs 7 років тому +4

    YES, thank you for the Dead of Winter mention, I just can't get with it

  • @LazyNeutrino
    @LazyNeutrino 7 років тому

    Fun show. Great energy all around.

  • @McBehrer
    @McBehrer 7 років тому +3

    so, here are some of mine.
    Dead of Winter. I agree with Zee, for one, but also it's just so long and slow-paced.
    Sheriff of Nottingham. Not that it's a bad game, but I played with a guy who never lied once, and he won; when everyone else is trying to bluff and lie creatively, it kind of bugged me that the guy who didn't at all won it. That you can win without taking any risks.
    Myth. I love the combat mechanics and the characters and everything, but the rulebook is such a clusterfuck. Plus, even though you're supposed to be able to play a story without a DM, you still need someone to decide what goes in any given panel, with very little input from the game itself, leaves you wondering exactly what you're supposed to DO.
    Mage Wars. The concept is great, and I haven't played Academy yet, but Arena just takes so damn long! I can't get anyone to play, because it's hard to teach and takes several hours.
    Lords of Waterdeep. Mostly because the guy I played with (who owned the game) was a dick; he kept going on about how he "doesn't play to win, he only plays to have fun," and then wins by like 50 points above the second place player.
    Risk: Legacy. If you win too many games, the game starts building and building in your favor. After a while, one player can become an unstoppable force, and it's just not fun for anyone. I was that player, and it wasn't fun for me either.

    • @TeChNoWC7
      @TeChNoWC7 5 років тому

      Your problems with Sheriff are completely fixed with the expansion.

  • @jasonbrown1865
    @jasonbrown1865 7 років тому

    lol Im still waiting on my ks copy of the others. That said I like B-Seiged, are you sure your playing it right I may be playing it at too easy a level though

  • @jfren484
    @jfren484 7 років тому

    My gave for this list would be Pirate's Cove, from Days of Wonder. Back in 2010 I owned Ticket to Ride (base USA plus 1910), the TTR card game, and Colosseum (which I got FREE for Christmas 2009 by purchasing $50 worth of products on the DOW store - best promo ever!). Christmas of 2010 rolls around, and they do a promo for something free when you spend so much, so I bought Shadows Over Camelot, which I already knew I wanted, and Pirate's Cove. We've only played PC twice, but I was so underwhelmed both times that we haven't kept trying it.

  • @Kindlesmith70
    @Kindlesmith70 5 років тому +1

    2 years old, I know. Zee, play the full co-op variant of Dead of Winter. I hate the traitor mechanism within this game. The game is hard enough without everyone scrabbling to achieve another objective in addition to the main one. Co-op variant removes the traitor, removes the personal objectives and you play the hardest mode of the scenario. Dead of Winter: The Long Night adds bandits which adds a minor nuisance to the locations, which does up the difficulty by a small amount.

  • @mstone1567
    @mstone1567 7 років тому +1

    I like Cargo Noir, but I also new exactly what I was getting into when I bought it. I don't like auction games where everyone has unlimited opportunities to bid. Of course the limiting factor is your income, but also having limited opportunities to make your bid, making sure every bid counts as much as possible, that is what I was looking for.

    • @marcohoehener463
      @marcohoehener463 7 років тому

      my thoughts exactly. This game really played well with two different groups i played it with. No boring at all!

    • @sidsmiff
      @sidsmiff 7 років тому

      I like Cargo Noir too. What can you do? We all have different tastes...

  • @DanielBlak
    @DanielBlak 7 років тому

    Oh man Zee. Playing with fire with some of those beloved classics - Dead of Winter, Arabian Nights??

  • @tinstargames
    @tinstargames 7 років тому +2

    I'm with you on Dead of Winter, Zee. I like it a lot but it's not what I WANT it to be. It's so close it hurts.

  • @andersonpereirabarbosa6207
    @andersonpereirabarbosa6207 7 років тому

    I'm still waiting for Zee's review of The Others :)

  • @stevef3663
    @stevef3663 7 років тому

    This Top 10 video would make my Top 10 video reviews I wanted to like but didn't....kidding. Thanks guys and good job. Thumbs up.

  • @RyuBateson218
    @RyuBateson218 4 роки тому

    My top 3:
    1: LotR Journeys in Middle Earth
    2: Heroes of Terrinoth
    3: Dawn of Peacemakers

  • @locust0311
    @locust0311 7 років тому

    I'm curious if any of you retried B-Sieged with the 'fixed' rule book. Specifically with heroes now starting with 4 divine grace tokens and the variable difficulty levels. I picked it up in a trade recently and basically threw the rule book that came in the box away. Only played solo so far but it didn't seem nearly as random or impossible as folks who reviewed it on the original rule set made it out to be. Of course its on CMON for the shoddy QA for letting such glaring omissions go into production (that is if you believe that was the case and it wasn't a designer scramble to try fix a broken game and make it LOOK like a mistake).
    As for me, a couple of things I had high expectations for that fell flat were Robinson Crusoe (speaking of awful rule books, we spent more time trying to interpret things than actually playing the game) and Le Havre (ending felt programmed, not what I'm looking for a 3+ hour game, I'd try it again though to make sure it just wasn't that one play).

  • @MrRadialdrift
    @MrRadialdrift 7 років тому +2

    You are right about Dead of Winter Zee. The list of things you have to do is so stupid. Also on the money about XCOM, my issue was the timed phase should have been the combat phase, not the planning phase.

  • @piratedoggames1332
    @piratedoggames1332 Рік тому

    I love B-Sieged. The first few times I played it I didn't do well, but after playing a few more times, I developed some strategies, like having to sacrifice buildings to Molen attacks, or even allowing some of the heroes to get killed defending a side of the citadel in order to help the messenger return. Now I win around 75% of the time. I wouldn't want to win every time, I like having a challenge. I get this game isn't going to be for everyone, but it's definitely a game that needs several plays to get a feel for how to play it.

  • @davidpeterson5179
    @davidpeterson5179 7 років тому

    Yea Sam BSG!!!! Also an hour long Top 10 video, this is a great video.

  • @eugenb.8448
    @eugenb.8448 7 років тому

    Fascinating list that I agree with mostly. Although I totally disagree with Sam's pick of Lords of Xidit. One of the great parts of Xidit is trying to figure out what you're opponents are doing and then hosing them.
    And here I was thinking Sam would enjoy figuring out ways to kibosh his enemies. So much for the army of one, then. Sigh.

  • @TonganJedi
    @TonganJedi 7 років тому +1

    Agreed with my disappointment of The Others, but I didn't have high expectations. Just can't get past the inability to do much of anything without being damaged and so few options to heal.

  • @eXyliad
    @eXyliad 7 років тому +6

    My Top Five games I wanted to like... but didn't:
    1. Lords of Waterdeep
    2. Firefly
    3. The Witcher Adventure Game
    4. World Of Warcraft
    5. Kingdom Builder
    From 1 to 4, I wanted to like them because I love the themes/IP of these games. The Witcher and Kingdom Builder, because of the designers. Kingdom Builder additionally because of the Spiel des Jahres prize. So. Much. Disappoint.

    • @TeChNoWC7
      @TeChNoWC7 5 років тому

      I feel like Kingdom Builder is the test to see if gamers get the concept of constrained choices in board game design often trumping open world.
      For that reason and how divisive it is I think it might be a contender for one of the most important board games ever designed

    • @davidlewis5312
      @davidlewis5312 4 роки тому

      @@TeChNoWC7 wow... that was pretentious as hell

  • @dominorfc1
    @dominorfc1 7 років тому +1

    Bang the dice game, it's went down that poor every time we have tried it that I don't think it'll be out the box again

  • @deanofgames4661
    @deanofgames4661 7 років тому +2

    Sam a bit ridiculous on War of the Ring. The whole idea that they're at the border and cant attack until we go to war is real life...not just in WotR but in life. It makes sense and isn't problematic except for Sam...

  • @koalabrownie
    @koalabrownie 2 роки тому

    For someone who is all about theme, Sam's hang up on War of the Ring is perplexing.

  • @neverboardofgaming
    @neverboardofgaming 7 років тому +13

    I agree on Dead of Winter Zee! Blahhh did not like voting friends out, random cards, and....random die roll will kill you....yeah not for me.

    • @neverboardofgaming
      @neverboardofgaming 7 років тому

      Friends came out of the experience depressed haha.

    • @casedinlight
      @casedinlight 7 років тому +2

      Dead of Winter is one of the worst board games I've ever played. I wanted to die so that I didn't have to play anymore, and the game drags on SO long.

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac 6 років тому

    Colt Express is dope! I had so much fun playing it with wife, mother and brother. Perfect family game! How dare you piss on it? ;)

  • @jaxommm
    @jaxommm 7 років тому +2

    My choice: Mystic Vale. It is absolutely horrendous, but I seem to be oddly alone in that opinion.

  • @TheFamilyShowdownHRKN
    @TheFamilyShowdownHRKN 7 років тому +6

    Sam you are fired! War of the Ring is pure, Grade A greatness! My favorite game of all time! ...but still love you, man.

    • @TheFamilyShowdownHRKN
      @TheFamilyShowdownHRKN 7 років тому

      Sam, you are partially redeemed. I am with you on Xidit. That game was so disappointing. "That guy" blocked both of us many times throughout the game. Half of my turns (at least) was blocked.

  • @undersci
    @undersci 7 років тому +2

    For me, it's Chaos in the Old World. I'm the biggest Blood Rage fan on the planet, and a couple of months ago, some folks said to me 'This game's even better than Blood Rage!' I was hyped. To me, it was a pale shadow of Blood Rage in every possible way. From super randomness with exploding dice, to a limited card pool that you drew at random, to proscribed game play that made bash the leader a condition of playing well, I just didn't enjoy it at all.

  • @BigWetTits1
    @BigWetTits1 7 років тому

    That's fun. Sam and Zee are bold, but it's the Tom who always wear the hat.

  • @robingardner435
    @robingardner435 7 років тому +3

    Colt Express - Sam - Good "track" record, haha, Get it!

    • @Islacrusez
      @Islacrusez 3 роки тому

      I was sad that nobody laughed.

  • @samiamagainagain
    @samiamagainagain 7 років тому +1

    I totally agree that Dark Moon was really disappointing!

  • @rav3style
    @rav3style 7 років тому

    What does euro game imply?

  • @nicolaibendtsen
    @nicolaibendtsen 7 років тому +1

    Man, oh howdy dowdy is that intro + music awesome! love it so much better than the normal stupid stock intro+music you usually use for review-videos