At 13:44, you can give deck mounted 4" guns side armor if you increase them to 4.3". That seems to be the minimum for side armor. That helps a lot against flash fires as well.
hello again trifler :) oh is that the armour size limit ? i was not aware of this one , ill be sure to have a dabble at this .. that would have been nice. cheers for commenting :)
hello dat i honestly dont agree with this, numbers are important too, i can have a lots of 5 / 6 inch guns for a far cheaper price floating about with having cruisers mixed in. i like the cruisers too, they have the speed needed for recon , chasing , grabbing transports and such . the BB in this episode that i create are trash anyway, and only go around 16 knots, if i didnt have those cruisers they would have got blapped early on. cheers for commenting
@@MoisTeaGaming Does price really even matter all that much since the game gives you pretty much unlimited funds as it massively balloons over time? I'm not saying that BBs and Dreads are a perfect counter to numbers but you'll have less ships to juggle in battle and can make better tactical decisions with the ones you have. Yes, you'll lose some but you'll punch massively above the number of ships the enemy brings typically. I believe there is also a way to get 17 knot BBs very early after the 1890 start.
@@DatCameraMON of course it does, if im going to be taking on pretty much everything sure ill need money. having less ships to juggle is certainly a nice prospect but atm the cruisers are essential for sure 17 knot bbs at the beginning are a big useless in my eyes, everything can catch them
@@MoisTeaGaming IDK. It might seem kinda improper to do this, but I would check out VTH Gaming's UAD 1890 Germany campaign to show what I mean. I'm not trying to shill for his channel or anything but I'm just using it as a reference for what I mean. He basically just wins **almost** all of his battles against numerical superior opponents with just BBs and Dreads. The only limiting factor is his shipyard capacity, never really runs out of money.
@@DatCameraMON meh, i can understand why but ill stick with my thing i reckon, cruisers to protect BBs 100% for me , not too complicated , not to simple
hello again trifler :) meh, iv only had one or two so far during the campaign and thats without barbettes protection on half the ships so its not so bad , acceptable. cheers for commenting :)
For the Torpedo Boat, I found you can get a lot more range by setting the Beam all the way to the left. I like to leave the Draught at 0 so they remain hard to spot, but you could also increase that for even more range. They won't get 10k range, but they're good to have if they enemy sends ships to one of the US coasts, the Caribbean, etc. Also mine cost about $250k each, not 1 million. Just one 2" or 3" gun on the front and two torpedo launchers. 31 knots. Size is set to the minimum allowed.
hello trifler :) Yea there was hat option , but the whole torpedo boat prospect is risky as it is , when i can have a couple of cruiser which can take some hits ... or some one shot wonder ships, id rather the cruisers . range is VERY limited at the point so need to make the most of it. having a super cheap one could have been useful for the coastal but they haven't wandered over yet. i dont like having the ships on -9 drought and such as when iv done this before they look stupid on the ocean , half under water most of the time , kinda ruins it for me cheers for commenting :)
hello schot top man, thank you for doing so ! , youtube struggles sometimes getting my videos out , this helps immensely. am i taking a different route than a lot of the other people ? XD cheers for commenting :)
@@schotscarface18ssf75 i got to get to that tech level first XD will probs have two different ship designs later one, ones for taking o big ships, ones with more smaller guns to take on cruisers and such
i recently got this game im playing russia and im gonna basiclly do the same thing as you do since i started 1890 and i had no idea that you were also playing it gonna watch some of your series today also congrats for 3.5k subs
Your Torpedo Cruiser is nice, but the advantage of having two torpedoes on each side over one torpedo on each side is massive. To me, having at least two torpedoes on each side is mandatory for a Torpedo Cruiser. I usually go for three, but I need two. I have no problems with the cost of Light Cruisers for use as pure gunboats. Especially as the US. Dockyard capacity is far more of a concern.
hello trifler :) yea your not wrong, some more torpedoes would have been juicy , weight was a issue though however they at least served the purpose of keeping costs down , instead of having less cruisers , i can ave some of these in the mix. yea dockyards are a mess at this point, got a battle ship hull i cant even use at this point. cheers for commenting :)
Idk how I missed you starting this series, can’t wait to binge it, gonna get this game if the campaign mechanics look good. Saw a little before looks good enough to me so far
Well I'm really looking forward to this. Especially when you try to do a torpedo run with a CL having speed under 22kn and engine eff. barely over 50%. Also that paperthin armor on your guns (one that one CL). Also that Fore weight offset is kinda crazy. I don't think you have any chance of picking up any neutral minor nation apart of allying with them and selling them your ships. Really unfortunate... Well, luckily Spain cannot build any BB so they're easy picking even for this bloody fleet :D I really wonder how this campaign will play out with your strategy. :)
i think its a case of winging it all the way with this Luba XD just like with Great War Western Front The CLs will be fine dont worry about it ;) (next episode you watch it will explode on the approach) Paper thin armour , its only the top , which shouldn't get hit ... shouldn't ... Yea well im sure it will survive a bit XD cant have them perfect was hard enough to get 10K range on the ships. Well we can ... if we go to war with the major nation they are allies with ;) honestly the strategy will no doubt change 3000 times throughout the campaign XD to your amusement of course
@@MoisTeaGaming I think those main guns had no armor whatsoever not just top. Yeah, let's see about those CLs. I'd rather rush with my 31.5kn torp boats there. But in the end the 1890 tech is really crap, so you just have to make do with whatever you have. Don't be afraid to lower the tech lower, even for like 70%, you'd still be better than AI. And even if you won't have the capacity to churn out new and better ships anyway :wink
@@azirus there wasn't a option for me to give them any armour XD unless i missed it D: Yea i would have had the torp boats but they dont have any range, talking around 3000 range until i get more tech. but ... i want the tech though :P if im designing them we may need a few spares XD
@@MoisTeaGaming yes, that's correct, you can't armor up torp boats. I think the range is on their max fuel, but I believe if you wait a bit on the sea you should get some fuel/ammo every turn. Not saying you now have to make all the ships, just that it's not a hard cap. :wink
@lord_luba if you watched me going on I did move a fleet across the Pacific and they didn't have enough fuel and the nearest supply port was too far away . And they have 10K range Without the improments in tech the tbs could only go max 5K which simply isn't good enough especially if we're in about murdering Spain 😆 I just need research
The American campaign begins. There is way too much I have to say to put it into this comment, so I suggest watching other UA-camrs that play this game, like BrotherMunro, to get more advice on how to design your ships. He has some videos on how to design ships, and has other campaign videos that show the best tactics of operating your fleets
spread it out over several then ;) naaa , ill do what i did with great war western front and wing it all the way , im yet to watch another proper video from someone else on it and same goes with this XD makes it my own then :) If i design a ship flawed, and it explodes in a extraordinary fashion due to my own fault, so be it :P One of the most entertaining parts of a game for me is learning , the hard way most of the time
@@MoisTeaGaming flash fires are a beauty to see, on the enemy and even on your own ships. Shooting destroyers with massive 20 in guns and scoring a damaging hit of 55k is glorious, it’ll soon happen later on in the campaign I’ll assume, once you get your hands on those big guns
@@nathanielt1984 yea iv seen them before when i dabbled with this game, the flash fires are a thing to be hold ... the bigger the ship , the bigger the flash fire :P yea no doubt ill be murdering many sailors in no time XD
I was thinking Moisty, if youre enjoying this game you should check out Victory at Sea Pacific. Complex naval strategy etc. See what you think of it 🤷♂️
iv got victory at sea, not the pacific one though unless thats in the game itself ? i thik dreadnoughts looks better than victory , bit more realism however this pacific one could be better than the one im looking at which is a bit dated i think XD
@MoisTea Gaming I bought Pacific. My computer was too shit to play it 🤦♂️ however I have seen gameplay of it. Seems pretty decent, slow paced to start with but gets better. I'm going to get in to this series though haha
@@danielmargetts2327 nice ! , iv got my eye on another game atm which im hoping to get the key for , ill be maxed out for a bit then honestly in terms of number of games XD
so your doing the 1890 start then. alrighty then on that front. as for the shells i usually keep it standard and a equal balanced ammo count. on top of the lot i make especally with the 1910 start i usually do i go for speed and have the lot made to be above there speed max and other things etc. go for 4 turrets on them if it can fit otherwise its make what you want to make. and you can accept people making designs though the mail etc.
the HE shells wont pen a LC so iv gone for more Ap on the bigger guns, and more HE on the 2 inchers seen as they cant pen much anyway so migt as well be explosive shell, good for dealing with them pesky TBs ATM we dont have a ship which can mount 4 turrets XD not in the sense i think your thinking of anyway
@@MoisTeaGaming of course. With the 1890 start you don’t have much to work with. For he shells as you get them they will come in to 2 categories with the line up on the left that can shrewd destroyers and light larger ships on fire but less pen and the right he shells that have better pen but less damage that can go toe to toe with larger ships armor. Same with the Ap shells as well with the armor piercing, composite rigid class of rounds that shred armor but cost more. As for the hill lay outs the ones that give you the chance to lay out 4 turrets on them aka 2 in the front and 2 in the back would be the 1900’s and latter hull layout which you need through research. You can get away with that on the lighter ones as well but some hull designs are a hard nope for that. Which you will need at least late ww1 to interwar years for hulls at the earliest to get a dedicated line of hulls that allow you to go full 4 turrets on them. Also you can get away with placing torpedo launchers (the deck ones) on the bb’s and battle cruisers for torpedo attacks. Look at Tirpitz for that layout otherwise try to if the hull allows it fit the underwater launchers to keep the crew and torpedoes safe from shells.
@@TheManofthecross yea 1890 is very basic tech, still using black powder even XD I do want some more shells, but priorities first , and time needed , its still early Atm we cant stick any barbettes on any of our hulls so thats still a bit off as wel l. the tech your on aout in generals seems a while away, but ill figure it out as i go :) Atm again, still no hulls which can accommodate the on board torp launchers apart from the torpedo boats but they lack the range to be useful currently
@@shreksophone1413 every nation share the same and have unique shapes/ hull configs, the USA in the last patch got a huge number of new hulls to work with so thats why iv gone for then :)
@@MoisTeaGaming Reading my comment back I feel like I sound rude. That was not my intention! It just caught me off guard as it sounded like ESPN was playing for UA:D 😆
@austinshaw9091 not at all , iv hard far worse 😆 Not sure what that is but music was a big thing I wanted to update , just today I downloaded some new ones , trying to find the right platform is a nuisance but I belive iv found the right one now
@@MoisTeaGaming awesome! I hope it works well for you! I am sure those things can be annoying to fiddle with. Now I gotta watch this series before I keep forgetting and putting it off!
This game has improved hugely since I last looked at it.
yea it really has, iv been waiting for it to get better , patch 1.3 was they big one i feel
At 13:44, you can give deck mounted 4" guns side armor if you increase them to 4.3". That seems to be the minimum for side armor. That helps a lot against flash fires as well.
hello again trifler :)
oh is that the armour size limit ? i was not aware of this one , ill be sure to have a dabble at this .. that would have been nice.
cheers for commenting :)
Honestly, you can save yourself a lot of effort and just build dreadnoughts and battleships for the campaign.
hello dat
i honestly dont agree with this, numbers are important too, i can have a lots of 5 / 6 inch guns for a far cheaper price floating about with having cruisers mixed in.
i like the cruisers too, they have the speed needed for recon , chasing , grabbing transports and such .
the BB in this episode that i create are trash anyway, and only go around 16 knots, if i didnt have those cruisers they would have got blapped early on.
cheers for commenting
@@MoisTeaGaming Does price really even matter all that much since the game gives you pretty much unlimited funds as it massively balloons over time?
I'm not saying that BBs and Dreads are a perfect counter to numbers but you'll have less ships to juggle in battle and can make better tactical decisions with the ones you have. Yes, you'll lose some but you'll punch massively above the number of ships the enemy brings typically. I believe there is also a way to get 17 knot BBs very early after the 1890 start.
@@DatCameraMON of course it does, if im going to be taking on pretty much everything sure ill need money.
having less ships to juggle is certainly a nice prospect but atm the cruisers are essential for sure
17 knot bbs at the beginning are a big useless in my eyes, everything can catch them
@@MoisTeaGaming IDK. It might seem kinda improper to do this, but I would check out VTH Gaming's UAD 1890 Germany campaign to show what I mean. I'm not trying to shill for his channel or anything but I'm just using it as a reference for what I mean.
He basically just wins **almost** all of his battles against numerical superior opponents with just BBs and Dreads. The only limiting factor is his shipyard capacity, never really runs out of money.
@@DatCameraMON meh, i can understand why but ill stick with my thing i reckon, cruisers to protect BBs 100% for me , not too complicated , not to simple
Excellent video. This tells me more about the game I've been thinking to buy a long time than all other videos I saw.
thank you buddy :)
ill be doing a full series , stick around if your still unsure :)
If you put 0.5-0.6" of top armor on your 4" and 5" main guns, I've found that it does vastly reduce the chances of flash fire.
hello again trifler :)
meh, iv only had one or two so far during the campaign and thats without barbettes protection on half the ships so its not so bad , acceptable.
cheers for commenting :)
For the Torpedo Boat, I found you can get a lot more range by setting the Beam all the way to the left. I like to leave the Draught at 0 so they remain hard to spot, but you could also increase that for even more range. They won't get 10k range, but they're good to have if they enemy sends ships to one of the US coasts, the Caribbean, etc. Also mine cost about $250k each, not 1 million. Just one 2" or 3" gun on the front and two torpedo launchers. 31 knots. Size is set to the minimum allowed.
hello trifler :)
Yea there was hat option , but the whole torpedo boat prospect is risky as it is , when i can have a couple of cruiser which can take some hits ... or some one shot wonder ships, id rather the cruisers . range is VERY limited at the point so need to make the most of it.
having a super cheap one could have been useful for the coastal but they haven't wandered over yet.
i dont like having the ships on -9 drought and such as when iv done this before they look stupid on the ocean , half under water most of the time , kinda ruins it for me
cheers for commenting :)
a like and coment for the gods of youtube. also your ship are diffrent thats for sure
hello schot
top man, thank you for doing so ! , youtube struggles sometimes getting my videos out , this helps immensely.
am i taking a different route than a lot of the other people ? XD
cheers for commenting :)
@@MoisTeaGaming you can say that again and can you do a ships that 4x16 20 inch bridise with all the guns just and call it little gun
@@schotscarface18ssf75 i got to get to that tech level first XD will probs have two different ship designs later one, ones for taking o big ships, ones with more smaller guns to take on cruisers and such
Definitley need more of this series in my life!
new video of it drops 1700 hours bst tomorrow :)
A new series! Looking good, excited to watch it. (for the algorithm :)
cheers buddy ! :) yea im looking forward to doing it :P
Let’s go USA
Ooh! Juicy TGW videos every day and now this. Consider me hyped!
among others :P
i recently got this game im playing russia and im gonna basiclly do the same thing as you do since i started 1890 and i had no idea that you were also playing it gonna watch some of your series today also congrats for 3.5k subs
cheers buddy :) thank you , slowly growing !
nice, iv got more videos of this coming in the next few days so watch out for them !
Your Torpedo Cruiser is nice, but the advantage of having two torpedoes on each side over one torpedo on each side is massive. To me, having at least two torpedoes on each side is mandatory for a Torpedo Cruiser. I usually go for three, but I need two. I have no problems with the cost of Light Cruisers for use as pure gunboats. Especially as the US. Dockyard capacity is far more of a concern.
hello trifler :)
yea your not wrong, some more torpedoes would have been juicy , weight was a issue though however they at least served the purpose of keeping costs down , instead of having less cruisers , i can ave some of these in the mix.
yea dockyards are a mess at this point, got a battle ship hull i cant even use at this point.
cheers for commenting :)
Idk how I missed you starting this series, can’t wait to binge it, gonna get this game if the campaign mechanics look good. Saw a little before looks good enough to me so far
You lemon , should have looked at my channel more 😉
The new patch really has helped the game
@@MoisTeaGaming I was too focused on the Great War, and that’s good news I’ve had this game on my wishlist since it was first announced on steam
@@tmo_117 Nice, its a good game
Well I'm really looking forward to this. Especially when you try to do a torpedo run with a CL having speed under 22kn and engine eff. barely over 50%. Also that paperthin armor on your guns (one that one CL). Also that Fore weight offset is kinda crazy.
I don't think you have any chance of picking up any neutral minor nation apart of allying with them and selling them your ships. Really unfortunate...
Well, luckily Spain cannot build any BB so they're easy picking even for this bloody fleet :D
I really wonder how this campaign will play out with your strategy. :)
i think its a case of winging it all the way with this Luba XD just like with Great War Western Front
The CLs will be fine dont worry about it ;) (next episode you watch it will explode on the approach)
Paper thin armour , its only the top , which shouldn't get hit ... shouldn't ...
Yea well im sure it will survive a bit XD cant have them perfect
was hard enough to get 10K range on the ships.
Well we can ... if we go to war with the major nation they are allies with ;)
honestly the strategy will no doubt change 3000 times throughout the campaign XD to your amusement of course
@@MoisTeaGaming I think those main guns had no armor whatsoever not just top.
Yeah, let's see about those CLs. I'd rather rush with my 31.5kn torp boats there. But in the end the 1890 tech is really crap, so you just have to make do with whatever you have.
Don't be afraid to lower the tech lower, even for like 70%, you'd still be better than AI. And even if you won't have the capacity to churn out new and better ships anyway :wink
@@azirus there wasn't a option for me to give them any armour XD unless i missed it D:
Yea i would have had the torp boats but they dont have any range, talking around 3000 range until i get more tech.
but ... i want the tech though :P
if im designing them we may need a few spares XD
@@MoisTeaGaming yes, that's correct, you can't armor up torp boats.
I think the range is on their max fuel, but I believe if you wait a bit on the sea you should get some fuel/ammo every turn. Not saying you now have to make all the ships, just that it's not a hard cap. :wink
@lord_luba if you watched me going on I did move a fleet across the Pacific and they didn't have enough fuel and the nearest supply port was too far away . And they have 10K range
Without the improments in tech the tbs could only go max 5K which simply isn't good enough especially if we're in about murdering Spain 😆
I just need research
this is a great game youll enjoy it
i know right, i cant wait to see thesehulls which have been added in, and taking on the british empire ... once we ar strong enough XD
The American campaign begins. There is way too much I have to say to put it into this comment, so I suggest watching other UA-camrs that play this game, like BrotherMunro, to get more advice on how to design your ships. He has some videos on how to design ships, and has other campaign videos that show the best tactics of operating your fleets
And yes, very early ships will look like trains with a crap ton of funnels. Researching better tech and ship hills will improve the look of the ship.
spread it out over several then ;)
naaa , ill do what i did with great war western front and wing it all the way , im yet to watch another proper video from someone else on it and same goes with this XD
makes it my own then :)
If i design a ship flawed, and it explodes in a extraordinary fashion due to my own fault, so be it :P
One of the most entertaining parts of a game for me is learning , the hard way most of the time
engine efficiency 100% needs addressing first i think
@@MoisTeaGaming flash fires are a beauty to see, on the enemy and even on your own ships. Shooting destroyers with massive 20 in guns and scoring a damaging hit of 55k is glorious, it’ll soon happen later on in the campaign I’ll assume, once you get your hands on those big guns
@@nathanielt1984 yea iv seen them before when i dabbled with this game, the flash fires are a thing to be hold ... the bigger the ship , the bigger the flash fire :P
yea no doubt ill be murdering many sailors
in no time XD
I was thinking Moisty, if youre enjoying this game you should check out Victory at Sea Pacific. Complex naval strategy etc. See what you think of it 🤷♂️
iv got victory at sea, not the pacific one though unless thats in the game itself ?
i thik dreadnoughts looks better than victory , bit more realism however this pacific one could be better than the one im looking at which is a bit dated i think XD
@MoisTea Gaming I bought Pacific. My computer was too shit to play it 🤦♂️ however I have seen gameplay of it. Seems pretty decent, slow paced to start with but gets better. I'm going to get in to this series though haha
@@danielmargetts2327 nice ! , iv got my eye on another game atm which im hoping to get the key for , ill be maxed out for a bit then honestly in terms of number of games XD
so your doing the 1890 start then. alrighty then on that front. as for the shells i usually keep it standard and a equal balanced ammo count. on top of the lot i make especally with the 1910 start i usually do i go for speed and have the lot made to be above there speed max and other things etc.
go for 4 turrets on them if it can fit otherwise its make what you want to make. and you can accept people making designs though the mail etc.
the HE shells wont pen a LC so iv gone for more Ap on the bigger guns, and more HE on the 2 inchers seen as they cant pen much anyway so migt as well be explosive shell, good for dealing with them pesky TBs
ATM we dont have a ship which can mount 4 turrets XD not in the sense i think your thinking of anyway
@@MoisTeaGaming of course. With the 1890 start you don’t have much to work with.
For he shells as you get them they will come in to 2 categories with the line up on the left that can shrewd destroyers and light larger ships on fire but less pen and the right he shells that have better pen but less damage that can go toe to toe with larger ships armor. Same with the Ap shells as well with the armor piercing, composite rigid class of rounds that shred armor but cost more.
As for the hill lay outs the ones that give you the chance to lay out 4 turrets on them aka 2 in the front and 2 in the back would be the 1900’s and latter hull layout which you need through research. You can get away with that on the lighter ones as well but some hull designs are a hard nope for that. Which you will need at least late ww1 to interwar years for hulls at the earliest to get a dedicated line of hulls that allow you to go full 4 turrets on them.
Also you can get away with placing torpedo launchers (the deck ones) on the bb’s and battle cruisers for torpedo attacks. Look at Tirpitz for that layout otherwise try to if the hull allows it fit the underwater launchers to keep the crew and torpedoes safe from shells.
@@TheManofthecross yea 1890 is very basic tech, still using black powder even XD
I do want some more shells, but priorities first , and time needed , its still early
Atm we cant stick any barbettes on any of our hulls so thats still a bit off as wel l.
the tech your on aout in generals seems a while away, but ill figure it out as i go :)
Atm again, still no hulls which can accommodate the on board torp launchers apart from the torpedo boats but they lack the range to be useful currently
If you take another country will you have different ships shape ?
ships shape ??
@@MoisTeaGaming yeah
I think each country has its own unique ship and weapon design
@@shreksophone1413 every nation share the same and have unique shapes/ hull configs, the USA in the last patch got a huge number of new hulls to work with so thats why iv gone for then :)
@@nathanielt1984 some are shared , but many have unique ones
Why is there sports music playing in the background
hello austin :)
iv changed the music since , its much better !
@@MoisTeaGaming Reading my comment back I feel like I sound rude. That was not my intention! It just caught me off guard as it sounded like ESPN was playing for UA:D 😆
@austinshaw9091 not at all , iv hard far worse 😆
Not sure what that is but music was a big thing I wanted to update , just today I downloaded some new ones , trying to find the right platform is a nuisance but I belive iv found the right one now
@@MoisTeaGaming awesome! I hope it works well for you! I am sure those things can be annoying to fiddle with. Now I gotta watch this series before I keep forgetting and putting it off!
@austinshaw9091 😆 hope you like it , still making videos for this :)
Algorithm hack!!
keep feeding it !
1890 is for experts or psychos who like pain….. miss, miss, miss
well im not the expert do i must fall into the psycho section XD