Short debate about the Post Office scandal in the House of Lords

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  • Опубліковано 4 лют 2020
  • Lord Arbuthnot, the former MP for North East Hampshire, asks a question about the Post Office's ability to prosecute its own Subpostmasters. The peers present widen out the debate to demand compensation and a full inquiry. 2.30pm Tuesday 4 Feb 2020

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  • @RDRGV350
    @RDRGV350 2 роки тому +42

    One of the most disgusting cases of corporate corruption I've ever seen. My heart goes out to all those falsely accused by the Post Office of theft and their families. When will we see Paula Vennells in court?

    • @Steve14ps
      @Steve14ps 2 роки тому +9

      When we will see her in prison?

    • @ShirleyRowarth-wn6xp
      @ShirleyRowarth-wn6xp 7 місяців тому +3

      Under your rock, Vennells...UNDER YOUR ROCK!!!!!

    • @OutdoorTeam
      @OutdoorTeam 6 місяців тому +2

      Wait a moment - Horizon was originally put in place by her predecessor who must also face the full force of justice.

  • @mikepxg6406
    @mikepxg6406 3 роки тому +26

    Shame on Paula Vennells

  • @martintunnicliffe8934
    @martintunnicliffe8934 3 роки тому +49

    There's a strong suggestion now that the Post Office and Fujitsu knew about the problems and covered up the truth - despite what they knew it was doing to innocent lives. If this is true, those responsible need to be prosecuted and imprisoned.

    • @johntomlinson6849
      @johntomlinson6849 2 роки тому

      They won't be. The justice system of this country is about anything BUT justice. It's a game played by poncy public school types and we just pieces on their intellectual chessboards.

    • @dwayne_dibley
      @dwayne_dibley 7 місяців тому +6

      We now know that Vennels commissioned a report which detailed the problems but chose to keep the findings of that report to herself.

    • @lesjones471
      @lesjones471 6 місяців тому +1

      Did you really mean sack the government of the day they are not fit for purpose

    • @DSQueenie
      @DSQueenie 6 місяців тому

      Hear, hear.

  • @peterbennett5910
    @peterbennett5910 3 роки тому +24

    Criminal action needs to commence against Paula Vennells. If she is found guilt a proceeds of crime order should be made to recover all payments she received at the PO.These should then be used to help people and families affected by her coverup.

  • @mikecahill3989
    @mikecahill3989 7 місяців тому +9

    Not only did they lose their livelihoods they were left to in limbo for 20+ years and had to deal with this everyday

  • @25242824
    @25242824 3 роки тому +18

    some people have experienced, "unfortunate situations", wtf they lost their homes, went to jail and had their lives ruined, i think this arse hole needs to experience a few unfortunate situations himself.

  • @ShirleyRowarth-wn6xp
    @ShirleyRowarth-wn6xp 7 місяців тому +9

    Lessons will be learned 😂😂😂 Paula Vennells...P OFF!!!!!

  • @ledeyabaklykova
    @ledeyabaklykova 6 місяців тому +9

    This egregious UK PO scandal deserves to be dramatized in a TV series. Hopefully soon!

    • @lebosisings
      @lebosisings 6 місяців тому

      Did you not watch it?!!! Mr Bates vs The Post Office 4 episodes on ITV earlier this month?

  • @colinmelling6369
    @colinmelling6369 6 місяців тому +6

    Appears that there are a lot of political experts on how to put the post office right now .Where was they all when it was happening and they knew about it all going on.

  • @SteveRose-iq1cs
    @SteveRose-iq1cs 6 місяців тому +6

    This was a Post Office “adventure” a problem. The historical management at the Post Office needs to be held accountable.
    The lawyers will laugh all the way to the bank!

  • @blissfulservant4189
    @blissfulservant4189 2 роки тому +10

    Pure evil.

  • @longstreet0163
    @longstreet0163 4 роки тому +10

    This would have been much better if it were captioned as to who each speaker was and their role or interest in the subject made apparent.

  • @beammeup8458
    @beammeup8458 6 місяців тому +4

    I hear more excuses …. Some b s about talking to each other. If this country were not governed by an Old Man’s Club THERE WOULD BE ACTION .. all we get is platitudes and blah …. The French had a way of dealing with this ..

  • @BANKO007
    @BANKO007 3 місяці тому +1

    Not just corporate corruption. The courts have A LOT to answer for. Judges need to be summoned before Parliament to explain their abject failures.

  • @danremenyi1179
    @danremenyi1179 6 місяців тому +3

    Vennells to jail NOW.

  • @malcolmholmes9166
    @malcolmholmes9166 7 місяців тому +9

    Being described as "Unfortunate" is bloody disgusting. It went on in the 90s for god sake and still hasn't been rectified. Only in the U:K: does this happen. First denail, them blame the soldiers then perhaps as here decades later addmission. When Johnson was being grilled at the commission his lawyer fees were paid by the tax payer. UK FUCKIN STINKS. I don't normally swear but here I will.

  • @pearlnicol2443
    @pearlnicol2443 7 місяців тому +4

    No, the Court of Appeal should liken it to a Stalinesque regime, where evidence is fixed, and dissidents removed . Many Victorian factory owners were ahead of their time in terms of working conditions, pay, facilities. These lawyers clearly prefer ideology and marxism over history.

  • @stephenrhodes9767
    @stephenrhodes9767 6 місяців тому +2

    Here's one of the biggest waste of money in the UK. The house of peerage for mates club.

  • @user-sz9lh6ug6d
    @user-sz9lh6ug6d 6 місяців тому +3

    Why should they pay the courts fees

  • @raymondingram2539
    @raymondingram2539 5 місяців тому

    Take a look at all the criminals in this room, it's no wonder the people of the post office scandal haven't received justice and no one at the top hasn't been charged.

  • @terryansell6641
    @terryansell6641 6 місяців тому +1

    I just hope that all payments are tax free

  • @bobmac004
    @bobmac004 6 місяців тому

    Will there be a full independent public enquiry? No answer. 😡And the rich lawyers get £48m while the victims get £12m.

  • @williamsteven429
    @williamsteven429 7 місяців тому +2

    how much per day to the British TaxPAYER for all those bums on leather seats?

  • @paulhobson4799
    @paulhobson4799 7 місяців тому +1

    Even in the House of Lords, bull shitting and avoiding the true issues, what about those that got prison sentences for alleged fraudulently stealing???
    Why have their convictions been quashed and their compensation been mentioned?

  • @mspjmason
    @mspjmason 5 місяців тому +1

    What has happened to Part Two of the Panorama prog on this, originally from 2015 and rebroadcast in 2020?

  • @KironManuelCards
    @KironManuelCards 3 роки тому +6

    Fujitsu and Horizon are at fault.

  • @jeanhawken4482
    @jeanhawken4482 6 місяців тому

    The wilful blindness and corruption of executive public servants giving themselves twenty five percent bonuses. Demand the bonuses back over the past 20 years.

  • @exdoode
    @exdoode 6 місяців тому +1

    "unfortunate situation" ; "got it wrong" ? what kind of BS is that??

  • @Jez2008UK
    @Jez2008UK 6 місяців тому +1

    You don't think that no amount of compensation could compensate for those who lost their lives???? So, what are you going to give, nothing? How about giving it a go, like £1m, and then saying that no amount of compensation could compensate for those who lost their lives, but I hope this £1m goes some way to help. Shifty looking character.

  • @alisdairmclean8605
    @alisdairmclean8605 7 місяців тому +2

    Disgusting.

  • @robertsmuggles6871
    @robertsmuggles6871 6 місяців тому

    In 1998-2004 there wasn't a person in the UK who used a PC who had not experienced the blue screen of death - [windows98/windowsNT etc]. There was not an office in the UK which was not acutely aware of this unstable operating system. If the Horizon terminals were not falling over and having to be re-booted everyday - this would have been a major item of news. To think the post office could avoid this is laughable. Without custodial sentences for the perpetrators of this conspiracy - the UK will become more lawless. At the time, if the post office had gone to apple and asked it to develop 'Apple for Post office' - they may indeed have had a stable system but this would have been expensive and post office were already trapped in a toxic relationship with Fujitsu. It was a hoax, perpetrated by Post Office leadership and it was carried out 2000-2010. A ten year fraud/extortion operation.

  • @lesjones471
    @lesjones471 6 місяців тому +1

    You have all these people doing nothing in the house of Lords,sat on their arses going to sleep or nodding off.It's no good talking about what happened but what is not happening,get your stupid act together and do at least one days of work a year.The building is NOT a HOUSE so why call it that it's a dam large room=English.

  • @williamsteven429
    @williamsteven429 7 місяців тому

    who is the wing nuts with pink tie..?

    • @alxdavy
      @alxdavy 7 місяців тому

      What’s your issue with him?

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  • @user-tz7id8lg7g
    @user-tz7id8lg7g 4 місяці тому

    All ministers involved in this scandal should resign and face LIFE TIME PRISON SENTENCES. DISGRACEFUL AND DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR FROM THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD SERVE THIS COUNTRY.JAIL SHOULD APPLY TO ALL INVOLVED,INCLUDING GOVERNMENT MINISTERS.

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    @twoiewen9983 7 місяців тому

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