Good revue, and the 100ah batteries are getting more compact, and the stress test was well done. For people such as myself who r/v boondock, for up to a week conserving power is the difference in how long we stay, and it is achievable. No one has published a video on the does and don'ts, example is boiling water in an electric kettle on battery power. Something you might want to look into.
Loving your channel. Just in time for me. I recently returned a Bluetti AC70 because of some Marketing claims that fooled me, but 'in practice' failed my needs. This experience sent me hunting for a DIY solution.
on sale right now!! also i was gana go with the dumb one but seeing all that info on the app looks great i might setup a permanent tablet for telemetry read outs, im getting 4 to replace the 4 harbor freight 35 Ah lead acid ones in my mobile rolling toolbox build. Great review! subscribed!
Wow, that is one of the smallest batteries you have reviewed. I would love to see you do a video where you do a diy power station with 12V plugs and a/c and not assume any thing and show every step. Great job.
Would you mind downloading the Overkill Solar App, and seeing if you can communicate with the BMS? Interested in purchasing this battery, and having the ability to tighten some parameters. Thank you!
@@OffGridBasement Oh well. I really appreciate you giving it a try. I thought I saw a youtube where they entered the code of all 8's or just 1234, and it unlocked the wattcycle bms app.
For me, it would be more useful if, rather than testing the (overcurrent protection) level at which the BMS cuts out (of about 170A), you could demonstrate the maximum current at which the battery WILL operate for 5 minutes (about 150A?). In a campervan, I have a 2000W induction cooker, and I want to know which 100Ah batteries will supply, without cutting out, enough current to deliver as close as possible to 2000W. I can use the cooker at only 1400W, 1600W or 1800W so it's not the end of the world if no 100Ah batteries will fully supply 2000W, but I'd like to know which batteries will provide the highest consistent current. Could you demonstrate the highest current batteries WILL deliver for 5 mins in future videos please? I suspect some 100Ah batteries will actually deliver close to 300A, and I want to know which they are in order to buy one of them (and a 1500W or 2000W inverter).
All of these batteries I test document that the max current is 100A. The intervals aren't made to go much higher consistently. I don't test because I don't want people thinking it's ok to do. It will melt the internal wiring. Your solution is two batteries wired in parallel. Thanks for the comment.
Wow, if it holds up, it's really great! Off topic, would you (or anyone seeing this) know where/how to get one of those nylon carry straps that almost all the Chinese 100 Ah batteries have? My dog chewed thru one and I'm not finding a source for a replacement. Thanks for all you do.
First! Looking forward in your testing! This must be pouches, than 4 cells? I am not a fan of pouches as there alot more and higher chances 1 fails with much more pouches than a regular 4 cells?
@@richeastmain4031 How do you know? Was there a tear down that we can see? I have only seen pouch cells that make the over all battery's smaller. 90% of the 31 and even the smaller 24 the case has lots of extra room, and I would like to see a tear down, wished Off Grid Basement did that...
I noticed that before you did the 2nd test the battery was at 13.29v. Is that what it should read at once fully charged and has been sitting a bit? Or should the voltage be higher. Just asking because I just gone one and mine is about 13.33v after sitting 24 hours with no load after charging. Just want to make sure I got a good battery.
@@OffGridBasement Thanks. My only other experience is with the battleborn and it doesn't act that way so wasn't sure what was going on. I also seen another video where a guy opened the wattcycle battery and found that the cells read like 13.4+ volts before the bms and around 13.3 volts after the bms. As though the bms had a continuous draw or had resistance or something being applied.
@@OffGridBasement I have a different question if you have time. I usually charge my lifepo4 batteries with a solar panel. On cloudy days can I use a "4 amp battery charger and maintainer"? It is made by battery tender and does have a lifepo4 setting. Or are these designed just for starter batteries?
well i charged up my MJBSAN battery and it let 109AH into the battery so thats cool even tho the voltage was only 12.5 MAX so who knows im sure these are 120AH cells that are used and now only put out 109AH at most so who knows but its scetchy im sure anyone else would of sent this battery back but i didnt want my mom to think she got a bad ITEM lol so tries so hard to make me happy at times and shit like this happeds i knew something was too good to be true even tho it cost 150.00 dollars witch theres 4 other betteries i could of bought with that price that would of had good cells so owell such is life when your so poor you cant pay shipping cost to send a crap battery back to AMAZON lol owell
i dont dare to push this new battery i just bought because the cells are deffinitly not the same as these other batteries they look like pouch cells so not sure if they can handle 1000watts or not lol also i dont have a good inverter so i cant max this battery out even if i wanted to lol so yeah i know it can run at 500watts for awhile with no issues so im sure it could do 100ah if i really needed it to bit yeah now i need to buy a good inverter lol another 150.00 dollars spent that i dont have so will see
Congrats I saw one of your video being used by these guys and it was on Face book, you do a very nice video
Awesome, glad to see it spreading!
Good revue, and the 100ah batteries are getting more compact, and the stress test was well done. For people such as myself who r/v boondock, for up to a week conserving power is the difference in how long we stay, and it is achievable. No one has published a video on the does and don'ts, example is boiling water in an electric kettle on battery power. Something you might want to look into.
That's a good idea. Thanks for the comment and info.
Loving your channel. Just in time for me. I recently returned a Bluetti AC70 because of some Marketing claims that fooled me, but 'in practice' failed my needs. This experience sent me hunting for a DIY solution.
I'm glad you like it! Thanks for the comment.
A lot of these BMS work with the overkill solar app. If you want to change the BMS settings, at your own risk of course.
Thanks for the great information and the comment!
Have you tested this with this specific battery?
@@s.mendez7160 TEMGOT battery that's what I have personally tested with the overkill solar app. Whatever BMS they use is compatible with the app.
on sale right now!! also i was gana go with the dumb one but seeing all that info on the app looks great i might setup a permanent tablet for telemetry read outs, im getting 4 to replace the 4 harbor freight 35 Ah lead acid ones in my mobile rolling toolbox build. Great review! subscribed!
Thanks for the sub! You're really going to like these batteries.
Wow nelly, That thing is compact.. Perfect for carrying around.❤
It really is! Thanks for the comment.
Wow, that is one of the smallest batteries you have reviewed. I would love to see you do a video where you do a diy power station with 12V plugs and a/c and not assume any thing and show every step. Great job.
Great suggestion! I can do that in a later video. Thanks for the comment.
thanks for your reviews brother i love looking at the BMS app so fun
Glad you enjoy it!
What if you used 4 of these to make a 24V system, how would the bluetooth app work?
You would have a connection to each battery. The SoC should be the same on all if you top balanced everything before connecting them together.
@@OffGridBasement I believe you're correct. I may have to find a different app to view them as a single bank. Thanks
3:39 What capacity tester are you using that shows the graph? Thanks!
It's a EBC - Battery Capacity Tester.
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Hope this helps!
@@OffGridBasement Thanks!
Would you mind downloading the Overkill Solar App, and seeing if you can communicate with the BMS? Interested in purchasing this battery, and having the ability to tighten some parameters. Thank you!
I've downloaded the app, but it doesn't recognize the wattcycle battery.
@@OffGridBasement Oh well. I really appreciate you giving it a try. I thought I saw a youtube where they entered the code of all 8's or just 1234, and it unlocked the wattcycle bms app.
For me, it would be more useful if, rather than testing the (overcurrent protection) level at which the BMS cuts out (of about 170A), you could demonstrate the maximum current at which the battery WILL operate for 5 minutes (about 150A?). In a campervan, I have a 2000W induction cooker, and I want to know which 100Ah batteries will supply, without cutting out, enough current to deliver as close as possible to 2000W. I can use the cooker at only 1400W, 1600W or 1800W so it's not the end of the world if no 100Ah batteries will fully supply 2000W, but I'd like to know which batteries will provide the highest consistent current. Could you demonstrate the highest current batteries WILL deliver for 5 mins in future videos please? I suspect some 100Ah batteries will actually deliver close to 300A, and I want to know which they are in order to buy one of them (and a 1500W or 2000W inverter).
All of these batteries I test document that the max current is 100A. The intervals aren't made to go much higher consistently. I don't test because I don't want people thinking it's ok to do. It will melt the internal wiring. Your solution is two batteries wired in parallel. Thanks for the comment.
I’m curious, couldn’t you use an old spare Android phone, without cell service, for risky apps?
Yes. As long as it has WiFi and Bluetooth.
How cute is that.
Wow, if it holds up, it's really great! Off topic, would you (or anyone seeing this) know where/how to get one of those nylon carry straps that almost all the Chinese 100 Ah batteries have? My dog chewed thru one and I'm not finding a source for a replacement. Thanks for all you do.
That's a bummer! I honestly have no idea. Sorry I can't help.
have you tried using a 9-volt battery to wake up the BMS?
No I haven't. I read you needed another 12v source so I never gave it much thought.
If the app is accurate, a .007 volt difference between cells is excellent. Do you know if the battery contains prism or pouch cells?
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The battery has prismatic cells. Here is a link to Brad's teardown. ua-cam.com/video/HQgNhsCIy_Y/v-deo.htmlsi=RWDDzIwJ7kNmKDEM
@@OffGridBasement Thank you, Sir.
A T Burke
First! Looking forward in your testing! This must be pouches, than 4 cells? I am not a fan of pouches as there alot more and higher chances 1 fails with much more pouches than a regular 4 cells?
It has 4 EVE cells, not pouch cells.
@@richeastmain4031 How do you know? Was there a tear down that we can see? I have only seen pouch cells that make the over all battery's smaller. 90% of the 31 and even the smaller 24 the case has lots of extra room, and I would like to see a tear down, wished Off Grid Basement did that...
@@whatmattersmost6725 Look it up.
@@whatmattersmost6725 look it up yourself.
The battery has prismatic cells. Here is a link to Brad's teardown. ua-cam.com/video/HQgNhsCIy_Y/v-deo.htmlsi=RWDDzIwJ7kNmKDEM
I noticed that before you did the 2nd test the battery was at 13.29v. Is that what it should read at once fully charged and has been sitting a bit? Or should the voltage be higher. Just asking because I just gone one and mine is about 13.33v after sitting 24 hours with no load after charging. Just want to make sure I got a good battery.
That is totally fine. Once you connect a load it will drop to 12.9v, but stay pretty constant for the entire discharge.
@@OffGridBasement Thanks. My only other experience is with the battleborn and it doesn't act that way so wasn't sure what was going on. I also seen another video where a guy opened the wattcycle battery and found that the cells read like 13.4+ volts before the bms and around 13.3 volts after the bms. As though the bms had a continuous draw or had resistance or something being applied.
@@OffGridBasement I have a different question if you have time. I usually charge my lifepo4 batteries with a solar panel. On cloudy days can I use a "4 amp battery charger and maintainer"? It is made by battery tender and does have a lifepo4 setting. Or are these designed just for starter batteries?
@@101perspective Perhaps its the passive balancer.
You state the 50% point for the battery is 13.1V, then you state 95% of the battery is between 12.9V and 12.0V. Is there an error here?
No. The lower voltage is under load. Higher voltage is just in standby with no load attached. I hope that makes sense.
While I'd never need 300amps, them claiming it can do 300amps when it can't makes it a no go for me out of principal.
Thanks for the opinion and the comment.
Who has the password for the app settings?
It wasn't supplied to me. Sorry I can't help. Thanks for the comment.
Rather use my own Bluetooth than sketchy apps
I understand. I don't like when battery companies want to you sign up for an account. Just give me the information of the battery.
No apps battery
I'm using an android. Didn't test on iPhone.
well i charged up my MJBSAN battery and it let 109AH into the battery so thats cool even tho the voltage was only 12.5 MAX so who knows im sure these are 120AH cells that are used and now only put out 109AH at most so who knows but its scetchy im sure anyone else would of sent this battery back but i didnt want my mom to think she got a bad ITEM lol so tries so hard to make me happy at times and shit like this happeds i knew something was too good to be true even tho it cost 150.00 dollars witch theres 4 other betteries i could of bought with that price that would of had good cells so owell such is life when your so poor you cant pay shipping cost to send a crap battery back to AMAZON lol owell
i dont dare to push this new battery i just bought because the cells are deffinitly not the same as these other batteries they look like pouch cells so not sure if they can handle 1000watts or not lol also i dont have a good inverter so i cant max this battery out even if i wanted to lol so yeah i know it can run at 500watts for awhile with no issues so im sure it could do 100ah if i really needed it to bit yeah now i need to buy a good inverter lol another 150.00 dollars spent that i dont have so will see