I've noticed over the years that because of the rotten Home Alone games on the NES and SNES that a lot of folks have no idea that there was an actual good tie-in game for it on the Genesis developed by SEGA themselves. You defend 5 houses in the neighborhood from the Wet Bandits within a set time limit and it has a weapon crafting system. On normal mode they always go in the same order, on hard mode it's non-linear and you have to try to stay ahead of the Bandits to see which house they'll go to next. You get a finite amount of traps from the movie you can use and each house has a hazard that can harm both the Bandits and the player, like there's a futuristic house with a patrolling security robot. It deviates a lot from the plot to just make a fun game.
This was an excellent video, man. Your ranking videos are all so entertaining. The best NES games pyramid, the top SNES games, the Retro UA-camr rankings, and now this. The effort on the animations was worth it. Well done.
This is called a Meta-analysis when you compile several studies and combine them to examine their findings as a whole. It's the most powerful type of research paper. Did one as paper of my dissertation. It shows a more concrete reality through larger sample sizes and it rules out a lot of the fuzz and errors from individual research projects.
@@SweetTG80124 You can make things objective. I hold a Ph.D. in Communiation, which is a social science, which has fuzzy things too. Typically you have to make a Code Book (not computer coding, but a standard by which you can train people) and then you train several undergraduate research assistants to rate things that are subjective based on concrete categories on a scale of things. However, in this case, Jason was working with review scores which already creates a usable objective measurement. You have to eliminate and what's subjective and use things that can be measured. And reviews use rubrics to calculate scores, though every outlet may differ. Rating a game though is similar to grading a student paper. And believe me... Art can get pretty objective. One student project I graded was in a Video Games course my advisor taught (about communication aspects in games). The assignment was about narrative choice and students had to write out a choose your own adventure type story which how choices branched and changed outcomes throughout a story. This demonstrated compounding decisions, but while the assignment was artistic in nature, the evaluation of it was VERY objective.
I don't think Ballz was a joke game. I think it was a tech demo. They were hoping that this would become the future of 3D, and it does fake 3D really well, and became the immensely popular Petz series. Unfortunately it didn't become the future of 3D due to the inconvenient rise of a competing technology: actual 3D.
i dont think it was either of those, i think that they were legitimately trying to stand out, knowing how big Street Fighter is, and they wanted a piece of the pie, and while it DOES stand out, it stands out in a negative way. personally though, i still like it, it's different but it feels like they legitimately tried to make a good game.
@@UltimateGamerCC Matt McMuscles did a video on Ballz and apparently they were banking on it having netplay with a modem peripheral that never got past the concept stage. PF Magic put all their money on Ballz being a lot more impressive than it turned out to be, and shuttered not long after making an enhanced version for the 3DO, which was never going to save the company.
Nobody seems to UNDERSTAND Ballz... They were looking for a way to make 3D fighting games possible on a 16 bit machine. It's like Virtua Fighter or Tekken: You can dodge enemy attacks by going "up" or "down". And because Genesis and SNES couldn't render complex polygons they put the fighters together of easier to render balls. I have the game for Mega Drive (me being from europe), but haven't played it for many years. Don't remember it being really bad though... "Tell Santa you want Ballz for christmas!" 😀
Exactly. Possibly the most insane concept I’ve encountered in 40 years of gaming. Either they didn’t have enough patience to learn how to play or they don’t enjoy video games in general😂
@@the_real_tay_loud2072 or maybe they haven't played in a while and just remember getting frustrated as a kid. as far as i've seen, it is not an easy game, specially if you're a kid that don't read stories in games. i do plan on playing the whole series on my own soon, as i've played one of the newer titles, but i've never played it, so i am jsut speculating.
I know right?! I played the shit out of that game way back when.. heck I messaged an old high school friend about that specific game a few days ago! hahaha (well... I messaged him about Robotrek... but remembered we also used to play Shadowrun.. so)
6:24 Zico Soccer's a lot more infamous in Japan where it was exclusively released. Reportedly by the end of its run it was being sold for 10 yen and being bought in bulk by adult game developers (not joking) to use as casing for their games because the carts were so cheap.
Can confirm this still is a thing among collectors there, and often the Zico carts with surprise contents are not marked as being modified. Real life gacha.
@@paxhumana2015 My sister actually owns a copy of Hard Battle: we found it at a Flea Market when the Playstation was at its peak popularity so sellers were trying to clear out of SNES and Genesis inventory. I think she paid like 12 dollars for it.
there is in no way Shadowrun is on any worst SNES game list .. the fact they came back with 3 more games in the style of the SNES game with references to the table top and SNES ONLY (no Sega version references at all) shows its one of the best SNES games ever
Yeah, agreed. That's like saying "Zelda is one of the worst games on the SNES..." Okay, no. Taste is subjective, but there is such a thing as being wrong. Not gonna waste time on a video or channel doing that.
@@jensaversjo316 , Jason Graves has such bad taste that he makes New Jersey, or the UK caravan crowd, seem sophisticated, and en vogue, in comparison to him.
You've randomly used the exact same weighting formula as my Sega Master System prolific speedrunner ranking uses with the (1+(1/x))*100! Clearly well thought out and very interesting! Would love to see similar lists produced for other retro consoles :D
While I wouldn't say its a good game, Lester the Unlikely has the fact that Lester becomes more confident and competent as the game progresses, which is kind of neat. Hardly anyone gets that far though
Fun fact: There's a ROM hack of Race Drivin' that makes the game actually playable. It becomes another 5/10 game when it runs at more than 1 frame every 2 seconds.
Midway released Hard Drivin' on one of their Midway Arcade Treasures 2 compilation. Hard Drivin was the original game in the series. It plays better, but it is still total ass.
@Maru96 I've played plenty of driving games, old and new. Hard/Race Drivin' is a crummy mishmash of sim-like driving physics and arcade style tracks with dumb loops and shit. Virtua Racing on the Genesis is better than Hard/Race Drivin.
Cool experimental editing style. It reminded me a bit of the vids where the dude ranked every Gen 1/Gen 2 Pokemon trainer in a round robin tournament. I had no idea that you could do stuff like that with Google Earth, but the fact that that was your tool of choice actually made the end result cooler imo.
You know, I find it greatly humorous how many people list "Mario is Missing" as a terrible game and ignore the OTHER Mario educational game on the SNES, "Mario's Time Machine", which makes MiM look like a masterpiece. Ironically, of the four Mario education games, the SNES MiM is probably the best.
and yet it still lands with better regards than tons of other at least real videogames. i spotted revolution x with a slightly worse rating, and shook my head. i know people don't like the game, and i can imagine the SNES port is poor, but c'mon. at least you aim and shoot at stuff in that game. it can't be less fun than MiM.
One thing I don't like about these worst lists is that they don't reach far enough. They rarely cover import games, and if they do, only the infamous ones. I don't look at most of them and really think that they are actually all that experienced. It makes sense that the imports are where you'll find most of the worst games because bad games are the ones that usually don't make it anywhere else. There's also the fact that different regions of the same game vary in quality. I think that the PAL version of Dragon's Lair on the NES is a huge improvement over the other two. There's also the opposite- localizations that dumb the game down, cut content, and overall make it worse, and that you'd have a much greater opinion of if you played the original. The majority of PAL versions of games, unlike NES Dragon's Lair, are like this, as well as being slower than the ones in North America or East Asia. There's also the inverse where the American version of Sensible Soccer on Genesis is too fast compared to the MegaDrive version which makes it less playable. And yes, there is that bias towards disappointing games within big franchises or ones they were just tricked into buying when they were younger and would have known better more recently, which are still not great but hardly the worst.
i was pleasantly surprised (maybe because of the thumbnail) that doom did not show up a lot of people hate SNES doom because they compare it to other ports of doom, but i actually have a weird infatuation for it
I figured I'd mention that MOST of the budget for Rise of the Robots went into marketing the shit out of it; there was a period in the 90's where the damned game was EVERYWHERE. Most major magazines had entire issues dedicated to the thing. One of the reasons it tend to appear high on "worst games ever" lists; when you're putting out a crap game, the worst thing you can do is couple it with a marketing campaign that make it sound like the greatest game ever.
Good video and the experimentation with formats and software is paying off. Keep tinkering with these ideas because they really help create a distinct mood for your channel.
i have Pacman for the 2600, and let me tell you, you don't know bad home console ports of decent arcade games until you've played it. ET gets most of the infamy on the 2600, but Pacman is the biggest disappointment. it really sours the whole console, as Pacman at home was exactly what the hardware was designed to do. ET was a rushed attempt at an original adventure game with a movie license, so the market hype for it was purely in Atari's head and it sold poorly. lots of people actually bought Pacman and wished they hadn't.
If you ever decide to revisit this concept, maybe have a cross-reference with the top games of [insert system here] so that you can weed out (or at least minimise) the games that are present due to one reviewer, or weight entries so that games who appear on multiple lists are exponentially higher than those who appear on one or two. This would have likely removed Paladin's Quest which definitely doesn't deserve a place in this list. Not sure if either method would have saved Dracula X or Mystic Quest, though.
Dude, the editing, music, and presentation in this video are all top notch. I know this'll get lost in a sea of compliments but for real what an engaging video you've made here.
damn, got downright mathematical to determine the shittiest games on SNES, i'm one part dumbfounded to two parts shocked, it's impressive that you came up with tackling this topic scientifically, not to mention the execution.
Two quick things #1. Rise of the Robots came out months after Killer Instinct #2. Street Combat is even worse than you think, it was a license Ranma game in Japan, which was sprite hacked for the US.
Worse than you think because they replaced Ranma 1/2 characters or worse because it's a licence that people know of and would be on more Japanese worst SNES game lists?
@@MAYOFORCE Basically both. It was a bad license game they decided to port to the US but the license wasn't well known and they didn't want to purchase it so they half ass sprite swapped all the character.
Shaq Fu is on these lists because of the AVGN notoriety (and the normies adopting that notoriety). Even my wife knows about it being a bad game and she's only marginally more aware then a random off the street. It's not THAT bad of a game. It's a foolish premise, of course, but it's nowhere NEAR as bad as Street Combat or Rise of the Robots.
Hmm, as someone who was there when it came out i'd argue its reputation was established well before James Rolfe ever chugged Rolling Rock in front of a camera. Shaq-Fu had the misfortune of coming out during the original golden age of fighting games, so it was being compared to some of the biggest hits ever to come out of the genre. The horribly stiff controls and lack of combos, combined with the obviously corny premise, made it a regular on magazine & early Internet worst lists. The AVGN definitely helped carry that forward to future generations, though.
@@joshthefunkdoc , who cares what he thinks? Also, the people that were behind the game honestly also didn't care for his opinion, as they INTENTIONALLY made a equally bad sequel to the game for modern video game systems/platforms.
A bit surprised that Darius Twin cracked the second category. It's an alright game, a bit bland and short but a fine timekiller. I actually like that the powerup system in it is very simplistic, as it creates a satisfying constant linear progression of power as you go through the game.
Yeah you can tell a lot of these lists aren't aware of games like D-Force, Raiden Trad, or SD Gundam which are far worse than those. Darius and Super R-type are mid tier at worst
Darius Twin actually was a solid game, aside from questionable music on some levels. Also, its power up system was way better than the arcade prequels, and it was like so much that it got reused in Darius Gaiden/Darius Gaiden Extra Version.
@@JetWolfEX , Raiden Trad isn't as bad as people make it out to be, and, aside from frame rate speed issues, it's a fairly competent pair of ports for the SNES/NSFC and Sega Genesis/Mega Drive.
@@JetWolfEX , I too owned one of those versions, and The Raiden Project is an almost perfect game. Had it had Super Raiden and Raiden DX included as well, then it would have been an even better game.
Yeah, Rise of the Robots is one of the most famous video game scandals of the 90s and maybe the closest we got since the industry-killing scandals of the 80s like Pac-Man and E.T. for the 2600. What made it so egregious was the media's complicity in spreading unfounded hype, which just increased the scope since it wasn't just gamers dissatisfied with some game.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 As someone who was there at the time, the hype campaign in the States was visible but hardly overwhelming. It was the UK gaming press that really went into overdrive with it, as i understand it.
Apparently not nearly enough people played REAL bad SNES games like Lagoon, Robocop 3 and D-Force. Not worse than the infamous worst 2--very deserving of their spots--but there are many, many worse games than most of this collection that somehow escaped people's notice. D-Force in particular is the worst SHMUP on the console, FAR worse than Super R-Type (and Darius Twin! Which is great!) which I noticed in one of the lower tiers, and does just about everything a SHMUP does wrong. In most SHMUPs, you get your powerups by killing enemies that die in one hit, or at worst, defeating a small group (5-6) of enemies you one-shot with your weakest gun. Not so in D-Force. The powerup-dropping enemies are big planes that are TANKS, requiring at least 5 seconds of continuous fire from your level 1 gun to take down, who also spawn AoE shots at you. There's way too much enemy and bullet spam for a SNES SHMUP, which is exacerbated by the fact that you're concentrating on destroying the powerup enemies so you can upgrade your feeble gun. The boss battles usual take 10-15 minutes, because not only are they as bad of bullet sponges as you'll see in any SHMUP, they have long periods of invulnerability where all you can do is dodge. You only spend about 20% of the boss battle actually attacking them. And there's more, but that should suffice for an image of how bad it is. D-Force should be required play for any game designer to learn how NOT to make a video game.
As probably the biggest Darius fan in this comment section, i second this (though i feel even Twin is mediocre compared to most of the arcade series). i'm actually kinda surprised BioMetal doesn't appear here at all - thought someone would've put it on their list just because of the meme music, but i'm glad since it's one of the better SNES shmups.
@@joshthefunkdoc , actually, I find that every Darius game that is before Darius Twin and Darius Force/Super Nova is mediocre, and the upgrade system that is in Darius Twin and Darius Force/Super Nova is FAR better what was in Darius/Darius +/Darius Alpha/Super Darius/Darius Extra Version, or Darius II/Super Darius II/Sagaia. I know that they had more levels than those games, but the upgrade system that was in the fire few entries of the Darius video game franchise makes them honestly LESS enjoyable in the end. Also, the upgrade system that was in Darius Twin, and Darius Force/Super Nova was such a good idea that Taito repeated it in Darius Gaiden/Darius Gaiden Extra, arguably the pinnacle of the franchise.
Fun story (to me about Bill Laimbeer's Combat Basketball: I do annual ROM updates of R.B.I. Baseball, Tecmo Super Bowl and Ken Griffey MLB on NES and SNES. For the last 4 years, I've had a ROM update of Combat Basketball 2 in development limbo (I work on it between other projects). The teams featured are modern "evil" companies, such as Meta, Google, Pfizer and others while utilizing AI of NBA players (not just Bill Laimbeer).
Faceball 2000 is actually a port of Midi Maze for the Atari ST, which has the distinction of being the _first ever_ multiplayer first person shooter! Of course years later on a console its not quite as interesting.
Great Video!!!!!!!!! I am impressed by the work that went into making the list. Thank you Jason for the great explanation as well!!! You're getting up there with the likes of SNES Drunk....
Race Drivin was a port and wasn't made of whole cloth. It clearly wasn't designed to work on the SNES. But there is an SA-1 hack where it runs at its intended framerate, and it's ok then. Stunt Race FX is probably still a more fun game even then though.
My takeaway is that while numbers are a nice quick and dirty way to offer an assessment of the aggregate data at a glance, they don't dig down to the nuance of what makes any of these games stand out as crappy and why we assess games that are higher/lower differently than the data shows when doing a more focused critique. That being said, it is always fun to look at different ways to evaluate games. It would've been fun to see you compare this assessment to the results compiled by an A.I. and then critique it's critique.
dude i got your goodwill video on my homepage a while back and i'm glad i subbed, the videos have been awesome since, esp this one! love the editing style and concept, glad to see you blowin up a little
The C.R.A.P. score proves that being a disappointment is worse than being bad outright. If you're so bad you never get infamous for it, no one knows you're bad.
We had the sega channel growing up and had access to a ton of genesis games. My sister and I played Ballz a lot. It was maybe the only game we played together. I just realized all of the innuendo and sex sounds. As a kid I don't think it ever occurred to me lmao
I'm embarassed by how many of these I rented back in the day. I would still count Bebe's Kids as an AVGN game because NC did it as part of a challenge with him, while James reviewed a movie (Ricky 1.) My personal worst SNES is The Rocketeer, just because I loved the movie so much.
I'm curious how you made this list, like what program did you use to tender the pillers. There are many games that I don't agree with being on here, and I fully agree with you about Shaq-Fu being the most over hated game of all time. I actually, and oddly, like Lester the Unlikely. What people miss, like you said, was it's a cinematic platformer. Similar to Out of This World, and Prince of Persia. The catch is, the longer you play the game, the more responsive he becomes. Going from scared and hunched over to standing up straight.. etc etc. As for games like Race Driving, it was a port of an arcade game of the same name by Atari. Fun fact, the Genesis and Gameboy versions run better than the SNES version. Stuff like Dracula X, Mystic Quest, Rival Turf and a few others don't even deserve to be in the same discussion as many of these games. Hong Kong 97 shouldn't even be listed, while it is a game, like you said it's not a real release.
...except that Rival Turf, Castlevania: Dracula X, Hong Kong 97, and those other video games that are legitimately bad ARE bad for very valid reasons, and, as for Doom, and Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest, well, first of all, the SNES/NSFC port of Doom was handled by a small team that had to literally rebuild the PC port of the video game from scratch, including the graphics, and the music, which many people feel is, gasp, SUPERIOR to the MIDI PC music, despite the limitations of an SNES/NSFC. Second, that port of Doom was one of the ports of the video game that had one of the shortest times of development ever (though not as brief as the Panasonic 3DO, Atari Jaguar, or Sega 32X ports of the video game). Third, Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest was not even actually a Final Fantasy game in Japan. Fourth, the game is good, albeit a bit too easy, in the Incantation sort of way, but it's an okay runner-up to The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past/BS Zelda: The Ancient Stone Tablets. Fifth, and lastly, were it not for the bad hit detection, delayed enemy deaths, horrible story, especially its original NTSB-J version, and gratingly mediocre, and repetitive, music, then Rushing Beat/Rival Turf would be a better video game than it is now (and yet that video game has made three increasingly better sequels of improving quality, with the next one being on modern platforms).
@paxhumana2015 Mystic Quest was made for Americans, and known as Final Fantasy USA: Mystic Quest in Japan. What you may be thinking of are the Final Fantasy Legends which are The Romance series in JP
@@marbles8641 , no, it was actually a completely different name, kind of like how Dream Factory: Heart Thumping Panic became SMB2(USA)/SMUSA/SMA:SMB2(USA). Also, I;m aware of the Romancing Saga series, as I have the Sony PlayStation 2 remake of the first game in the series.
@@paxhumana2015 No, Final Fantasy Mystic Quest is called "ファイナルファンタジーUSA ミスティッククエスト (Fainaru Fantajī USA Misutikku Kuesuto) aka "Final Fantasy USA Mystic Quest" in Japan. It doesn't have another name, and came out in America almost a full year before being released in Japan. Oct 1992 in America, Sept 1993 in Japan.
@@marbles8641 , I must have confused the first Final Fantasy Legend game with this one, sorry. Yeah, it was Makai Toushi Sa-Ga, and The Final Fantasy Legend was actually, as well as originally, a spinoff of the Romancing Saga franchise.
32:33 that's the ending of the film "BèBè's Kids" where Lil' Peewee unplugs the lights in Las Vegas, it was a funny movie and I loved it, but I never owned the game for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System…
Hey, that video is really great! Now, PLEASE do the same for other systems! Genesis? Game Boy? Master System? Atari 2600/7800/Lynx/Jaguar? Dreamcast? Wii? Would be GREAT... ;-)
Next video you need to rank the games by their E.V.I.L score (Every Villain Is Lemons) Really enjoyed this video! The production values are great. Your editing is super clean, and the use of some 3D always looks awesome. I need to learn how to make some 3D shit.
Couple thoughts: 1. Who the hell put Uncharted Waters on their list? 2. It's really really weird how much AVGN covers people's views. James Rolfe has stated quite a few times that he's not a real critic, nor does he try to be, he's playing a character. Often times the nerd trashes games that he personally enjoys, like Simon's Quest.
James is just doing a comedy bit with AVGN, but he coincidentally gives really accurate reviews of the games at the same time. “Much truth is said in jest” is exactly how the character works.
There's a patched ROM that uses the SA-1 chip that gets Race Drivin running at a fast framerate. Also, AVGN did Pit Fighter in the Christmas wishlist episode.
haha, I might be the one dork in the audience who's really, really curious as to the computation of the CRAP score. Fun stuff Jason. You created the PER for bad video games 🙂
I recently discovered your channel and like your videos, so naturally I have to use my first time ever commenting on UA-cam to complain about something with one of them. It appears that the C.R.A.P. score formula you're using is actually 100/((Y/X)*(1+(1/X))), not 100/((X/Y)*(1+(1/X))) as displayed. The latter formula gives a score of 650 for Megaman Soccer, not 3.84!
Interesting, that’s actually what I originally said in the voice over, but sloppily swapped the x and y in my sentence while editing because the visuals didn’t match lol. So I messed up while animating then, not while speaking like I thought
The Genesis version of Terminator 2 is actually better, and almost no one mentions it. The controls were streamlined to accommodate the 3 button pad, resulting in it playing better than the SNES version. It still has many of the same issues like the one life, no continues, etc., but I can stomach the Genesis version a little more than the SNES version.
continuing to be impressed with your videos dood, I found you from the goodwill video and this kinda thing is right up my alley. reminds me a ton of the GOAT youtuber Jon Bois, this is the kinda number crunching nerdass stuff that i enjoy way too much. quite evident how much work you put into this, and it's appreciated. great job!
Your method of visualizing these lists is really fucking cool. I also appreciate that you collate the data and disqualify titles that are there just because they were simply disappointing, and not necessarily bad games in a vacuum.
Coming back to this, i'm genuinely shocked Captain Novolin wasn't a lot higher. That was always the most infamous of the educational titles even before the AVGN came around.
This was a great video. I rarely subscribe based on a single video, but I think I'll do it this time because I really liked your presentation. I had no idea you could do this kind of thing with Google Earth. Yeah, there's definitely some wonkiness to it but I like the general look of it all. I also appreciate the concept you used for this video and the mathematical approach. My brain likes numbers so this was especially enjoyable to see you talk through, even if I disagreed with a lot of what these lists had concluded. 😂 But that's video games in a nutshell, everyone disagrees.
wow Jason! Love you 3D view of the graphics, at bird's view liek the SECRET BASE youtube channel who focus on sports! Cool to see the same quality for video games. And your quirky comments are always worth the listen!
I've noticed over the years that because of the rotten Home Alone games on the NES and SNES that a lot of folks have no idea that there was an actual good tie-in game for it on the Genesis developed by SEGA themselves. You defend 5 houses in the neighborhood from the Wet Bandits within a set time limit and it has a weapon crafting system. On normal mode they always go in the same order, on hard mode it's non-linear and you have to try to stay ahead of the Bandits to see which house they'll go to next. You get a finite amount of traps from the movie you can use and each house has a hazard that can harm both the Bandits and the player, like there's a futuristic house with a patrolling security robot. It deviates a lot from the plot to just make a fun game.
Will check that one out, thanks
I’m gonna check that game out.
So many games ppl don't know about. Both good/decent... and bad
Yeah nerd did a video on it a long long time ago.
I had never heard of the SNES version, I had the genesis one as a kid. Just sold it for a lot of cash lol
This was an excellent video, man. Your ranking videos are all so entertaining. The best NES games pyramid, the top SNES games, the Retro UA-camr rankings, and now this. The effort on the animations was worth it. Well done.
Another channel I love!
This is called a Meta-analysis when you compile several studies and combine them to examine their findings as a whole. It's the most powerful type of research paper. Did one as paper of my dissertation. It shows a more concrete reality through larger sample sizes and it rules out a lot of the fuzz and errors from individual research projects.
@@SweetTG80124 You can make things objective. I hold a Ph.D. in Communiation, which is a social science, which has fuzzy things too. Typically you have to make a Code Book (not computer coding, but a standard by which you can train people) and then you train several undergraduate research assistants to rate things that are subjective based on concrete categories on a scale of things. However, in this case, Jason was working with review scores which already creates a usable objective measurement. You have to eliminate and what's subjective and use things that can be measured. And reviews use rubrics to calculate scores, though every outlet may differ. Rating a game though is similar to grading a student paper. And believe me... Art can get pretty objective. One student project I graded was in a Video Games course my advisor taught (about communication aspects in games). The assignment was about narrative choice and students had to write out a choose your own adventure type story which how choices branched and changed outcomes throughout a story. This demonstrated compounding decisions, but while the assignment was artistic in nature, the evaluation of it was VERY objective.
It's a somewhat weak type of research paper you belligerent fool.
I don't think Ballz was a joke game. I think it was a tech demo. They were hoping that this would become the future of 3D, and it does fake 3D really well, and became the immensely popular Petz series. Unfortunately it didn't become the future of 3D due to the inconvenient rise of a competing technology: actual 3D.
i dont think it was either of those, i think that they were legitimately trying to stand out, knowing how big Street Fighter is, and they wanted a piece of the pie, and while it DOES stand out, it stands out in a negative way. personally though, i still like it, it's different but it feels like they legitimately tried to make a good game.
@@UltimateGamerCC Matt McMuscles did a video on Ballz and apparently they were banking on it having netplay with a modem peripheral that never got past the concept stage. PF Magic put all their money on Ballz being a lot more impressive than it turned out to be, and shuttered not long after making an enhanced version for the 3DO, which was never going to save the company.
Nobody seems to UNDERSTAND Ballz... They were looking for a way to make 3D fighting games possible on a 16 bit machine. It's like Virtua Fighter or Tekken: You can dodge enemy attacks by going "up" or "down". And because Genesis and SNES couldn't render complex polygons they put the fighters together of easier to render balls.
I have the game for Mega Drive (me being from europe), but haven't played it for many years. Don't remember it being really bad though... "Tell Santa you want Ballz for christmas!" 😀
Oi Eeeh Oi Eeh uh huh!
Man I'm impressed with how your videos have improved in like even 6 months.
Pretty fuckin' cool, guy.
Like technically, content's always been good.
Shadowrun being on someone list is criminal. Ive started a petition to force them to play it to completion and review it again.
Exactly. Possibly the most insane concept I’ve encountered in 40 years of gaming. Either they didn’t have enough patience to learn how to play or they don’t enjoy video games in general😂
@@the_real_tay_loud2072 or maybe they haven't played in a while and just remember getting frustrated as a kid. as far as i've seen, it is not an easy game, specially if you're a kid that don't read stories in games.
i do plan on playing the whole series on my own soon, as i've played one of the newer titles, but i've never played it, so i am jsut speculating.
I know right?!
I played the shit out of that game way back when.. heck I messaged an old high school friend about that specific game a few days ago! hahaha (well... I messaged him about Robotrek... but remembered we also used to play Shadowrun.. so)
6:24 Zico Soccer's a lot more infamous in Japan where it was exclusively released. Reportedly by the end of its run it was being sold for 10 yen and being bought in bulk by adult game developers (not joking) to use as casing for their games because the carts were so cheap.
Can confirm this still is a thing among collectors there, and often the Zico carts with surprise contents are not marked as being modified. Real life gacha.
Not that known but not hidden fact: Street Combat is a reskin of the first Japanese Ranma 1/2 SFC fighting game just for western audiences lol
you are a true lore keeper
@@gengraded I just play Ranma a bit competitively xD
Weirdly enough, another entry in the franchise got published in the NTSB-U market. Also, it's a super rare game.
@@paxhumana2015 My sister actually owns a copy of Hard Battle: we found it at a Flea Market when the Playstation was at its peak popularity so sellers were trying to clear out of SNES and Genesis inventory. I think she paid like 12 dollars for it.
@@LaBlueSkuld Point of order: Hard Battle is the _second_ Ranma 1/2 fighter. Street Combat is a reskin of the first, "Neighborhood Combat."
Enjoying the 3DO type presentation! Rock on Jason
there is in no way Shadowrun is on any worst SNES game list .. the fact they came back with 3 more games in the style of the SNES game with references to the table top and SNES ONLY (no Sega version references at all) shows its one of the best SNES games ever
Yeah, agreed. That's like saying "Zelda is one of the worst games on the SNES..." Okay, no. Taste is subjective, but there is such a thing as being wrong. Not gonna waste time on a video or channel doing that.
Maybe the person who put it on a Worst 10 SNES list had only ever played 10 SNES games.
wait, what were the 3 other games in it's style? I'd love to know what they are because I love Shadowrun.
@@jensaversjo316 , Jason Graves has such bad taste that he makes New Jersey, or the UK caravan crowd, seem sophisticated, and en vogue, in comparison to him.
@@kandigloss6438 The Shadowrun trilogy for PC/Switch/PS4-5 etc. They're turn-based, but are very much successors of the SNES game.
You've randomly used the exact same weighting formula as my Sega Master System prolific speedrunner ranking uses with the (1+(1/x))*100! Clearly well thought out and very interesting! Would love to see similar lists produced for other retro consoles :D
While I wouldn't say its a good game, Lester the Unlikely has the fact that Lester becomes more confident and competent as the game progresses, which is kind of neat. Hardly anyone gets that far though
Fun fact: There's a ROM hack of Race Drivin' that makes the game actually playable. It becomes another 5/10 game when it runs at more than 1 frame every 2 seconds.
Midway released Hard Drivin' on one of their Midway Arcade Treasures 2 compilation. Hard Drivin was the original game in the series. It plays better, but it is still total ass.
@@Fools_Requiem no it's not, the arcade is a masterpiece you just have to play it with a wheel, same as modern simulators.
@Maru96 "Masterpiece," says you. "Nostalgia goggles," says I.
@@Fools_Requiem you just don't understand driving games.
@Maru96 I've played plenty of driving games, old and new. Hard/Race Drivin' is a crummy mishmash of sim-like driving physics and arcade style tracks with dumb loops and shit. Virtua Racing on the Genesis is better than Hard/Race Drivin.
Cool experimental editing style. It reminded me a bit of the vids where the dude ranked every Gen 1/Gen 2 Pokemon trainer in a round robin tournament. I had no idea that you could do stuff like that with Google Earth, but the fact that that was your tool of choice actually made the end result cooler imo.
This reinforces my supposition that “bad” is a far more subjective category than “good.”
You know, I find it greatly humorous how many people list "Mario is Missing" as a terrible game and ignore the OTHER Mario educational game on the SNES, "Mario's Time Machine", which makes MiM look like a masterpiece. Ironically, of the four Mario education games, the SNES MiM is probably the best.
and yet it still lands with better regards than tons of other at least real videogames. i spotted revolution x with a slightly worse rating, and shook my head. i know people don't like the game, and i can imagine the SNES port is poor, but c'mon. at least you aim and shoot at stuff in that game. it can't be less fun than MiM.
These "Worst Game" lists make you really appreciate the legendary games that did come out on the system...
honestly it just makes me appreciate the system as a whole because some more modern nintendo consoles have much worse shovelware on them.
The character sprite for the Terminator in T2 looks like if Hank Hill joined a motorcycle club.
One thing I don't like about these worst lists is that they don't reach far enough. They rarely cover import games, and if they do, only the infamous ones. I don't look at most of them and really think that they are actually all that experienced. It makes sense that the imports are where you'll find most of the worst games because bad games are the ones that usually don't make it anywhere else. There's also the fact that different regions of the same game vary in quality. I think that the PAL version of Dragon's Lair on the NES is a huge improvement over the other two. There's also the opposite- localizations that dumb the game down, cut content, and overall make it worse, and that you'd have a much greater opinion of if you played the original. The majority of PAL versions of games, unlike NES Dragon's Lair, are like this, as well as being slower than the ones in North America or East Asia. There's also the inverse where the American version of Sensible Soccer on Genesis is too fast compared to the MegaDrive version which makes it less playable. And yes, there is that bias towards disappointing games within big franchises or ones they were just tricked into buying when they were younger and would have known better more recently, which are still not great but hardly the worst.
i was pleasantly surprised (maybe because of the thumbnail) that doom did not show up
a lot of people hate SNES doom because they compare it to other ports of doom, but i actually have a weird infatuation for it
Doom is getting a new SNES/NSFC port sometime in 2025 or 2026, and, no, it is not a joke.
I liked the way you edited this. Is a Super Famicom version possible, or would that just be too ambitious?
I figured I'd mention that MOST of the budget for Rise of the Robots went into marketing the shit out of it; there was a period in the 90's where the damned game was EVERYWHERE. Most major magazines had entire issues dedicated to the thing. One of the reasons it tend to appear high on "worst games ever" lists; when you're putting out a crap game, the worst thing you can do is couple it with a marketing campaign that make it sound like the greatest game ever.
I like this C.R.A.P. score.
wait how did a guy who talks so much about SNES never hear about Rise off the Robots???
Good video and the experimentation with formats and software is paying off. Keep tinkering with these ideas because they really help create a distinct mood for your channel.
What's sad is that both Pit Fighter, and Race Drivin' were FINE in the Arcade... but they ported SO badly.
To be fair though, with the exception of The Genesis/Megadrive port, all home ports of Pit Fighter were hot garbage
Because the FX chip wasnt out yet. OG hardware couldnt do proper 3D. The only trick was that mode 7.
@@theyamo7219 , both games were dumpster fires, even IN the arcades.
i have Pacman for the 2600, and let me tell you, you don't know bad home console ports of decent arcade games until you've played it. ET gets most of the infamy on the 2600, but Pacman is the biggest disappointment. it really sours the whole console, as Pacman at home was exactly what the hardware was designed to do. ET was a rushed attempt at an original adventure game with a movie license, so the market hype for it was purely in Atari's head and it sold poorly. lots of people actually bought Pacman and wished they hadn't.
If you ever decide to revisit this concept, maybe have a cross-reference with the top games of [insert system here] so that you can weed out (or at least minimise) the games that are present due to one reviewer, or weight entries so that games who appear on multiple lists are exponentially higher than those who appear on one or two. This would have likely removed Paladin's Quest which definitely doesn't deserve a place in this list. Not sure if either method would have saved Dracula X or Mystic Quest, though.
Did I mistakenly click on a Secret Base/Jon Bois video?
I love the Dorktown aesthetic.
Bruh I was gonna post similar. "Somebody's been binging Secret Base..."
Came to say the same thing. . And I did 👍
It's like I'm reliving the entire history of the Minnesota Vikings all over again
@@fargoretro Why would anyone choose to do that?
Appreciate the Frogger GBA shoutout. That was my weird little game no one else had when I was a kid
I played a different Frogger GBA game when I was a kid.
Frogger's Adventures: The Forgotten Relic.
Dude, the editing, music, and presentation in this video are all top notch. I know this'll get lost in a sea of compliments but for real what an engaging video you've made here.
I see you, and I agree!
damn, got downright mathematical to determine the shittiest games on SNES, i'm one part dumbfounded to two parts shocked, it's impressive that you came up with tackling this topic scientifically, not to mention the execution.
Two quick things
#1. Rise of the Robots came out months after Killer Instinct
#2. Street Combat is even worse than you think, it was a license Ranma game in Japan, which was sprite hacked for the US.
Worse than you think because they replaced Ranma 1/2 characters or worse because it's a licence that people know of and would be on more Japanese worst SNES game lists?
@@MAYOFORCE Basically both.
It was a bad license game they decided to port to the US but the license wasn't well known and they didn't want to purchase it so they half ass sprite swapped all the character.
bro your content is seriously underrated and i hope you get the recognition you deserve. ty for another good one.
Shaq Fu is on these lists because of the AVGN notoriety (and the normies adopting that notoriety). Even my wife knows about it being a bad game and she's only marginally more aware then a random off the street. It's not THAT bad of a game. It's a foolish premise, of course, but it's nowhere NEAR as bad as Street Combat or Rise of the Robots.
Hmm, as someone who was there when it came out i'd argue its reputation was established well before James Rolfe ever chugged Rolling Rock in front of a camera. Shaq-Fu had the misfortune of coming out during the original golden age of fighting games, so it was being compared to some of the biggest hits ever to come out of the genre. The horribly stiff controls and lack of combos, combined with the obviously corny premise, made it a regular on magazine & early Internet worst lists. The AVGN definitely helped carry that forward to future generations, though.
@@joshthefunkdoc , who cares what he thinks? Also, the people that were behind the game honestly also didn't care for his opinion, as they INTENTIONALLY made a equally bad sequel to the game for modern video game systems/platforms.
Hey, he even made fun of it on Fresh Off The Boat.
What song did you use when you introduced the crap test?? Its so familiar
A bit surprised that Darius Twin cracked the second category. It's an alright game, a bit bland and short but a fine timekiller. I actually like that the powerup system in it is very simplistic, as it creates a satisfying constant linear progression of power as you go through the game.
Yeah you can tell a lot of these lists aren't aware of games like D-Force, Raiden Trad, or SD Gundam which are far worse than those.
Darius and Super R-type are mid tier at worst
Darius Twin actually was a solid game, aside from questionable music on some levels. Also, its power up system was way better than the arcade prequels, and it was like so much that it got reused in Darius Gaiden/Darius Gaiden Extra Version.
@@JetWolfEX , Raiden Trad isn't as bad as people make it out to be, and, aside from frame rate speed issues, it's a fairly competent pair of ports for the SNES/NSFC and Sega Genesis/Mega Drive.
@@paxhumana2015 That one isn't as bad, I'm more biased in hindsight because of how good the PS1 versions are
@@JetWolfEX , I too owned one of those versions, and The Raiden Project is an almost perfect game. Had it had Super Raiden and Raiden DX included as well, then it would have been an even better game.
I was waiting for Rise of the Robots. Surprised this was the first you'd heard of it.
Yeah, Rise of the Robots is one of the most famous video game scandals of the 90s and maybe the closest we got since the industry-killing scandals of the 80s like Pac-Man and E.T. for the 2600. What made it so egregious was the media's complicity in spreading unfounded hype, which just increased the scope since it wasn't just gamers dissatisfied with some game.
Oh my I remember renting that turd, wow that was such a joke of a fighting game.
i actually loved playing that game as a kid
only as an adult, revisiting it did i realize how crappy the gameplay was
the music was top-notch though
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 As someone who was there at the time, the hype campaign in the States was visible but hardly overwhelming. It was the UK gaming press that really went into overdrive with it, as i understand it.
The 3D graphics remind me of those old late 80s 3D screensavers & that's a good thing 😯
Apparently not nearly enough people played REAL bad SNES games like Lagoon, Robocop 3 and D-Force. Not worse than the infamous worst 2--very deserving of their spots--but there are many, many worse games than most of this collection that somehow escaped people's notice.
D-Force in particular is the worst SHMUP on the console, FAR worse than Super R-Type (and Darius Twin! Which is great!) which I noticed in one of the lower tiers, and does just about everything a SHMUP does wrong. In most SHMUPs, you get your powerups by killing enemies that die in one hit, or at worst, defeating a small group (5-6) of enemies you one-shot with your weakest gun. Not so in D-Force. The powerup-dropping enemies are big planes that are TANKS, requiring at least 5 seconds of continuous fire from your level 1 gun to take down, who also spawn AoE shots at you. There's way too much enemy and bullet spam for a SNES SHMUP, which is exacerbated by the fact that you're concentrating on destroying the powerup enemies so you can upgrade your feeble gun. The boss battles usual take 10-15 minutes, because not only are they as bad of bullet sponges as you'll see in any SHMUP, they have long periods of invulnerability where all you can do is dodge. You only spend about 20% of the boss battle actually attacking them. And there's more, but that should suffice for an image of how bad it is. D-Force should be required play for any game designer to learn how NOT to make a video game.
As probably the biggest Darius fan in this comment section, i second this (though i feel even Twin is mediocre compared to most of the arcade series). i'm actually kinda surprised BioMetal doesn't appear here at all - thought someone would've put it on their list just because of the meme music, but i'm glad since it's one of the better SNES shmups.
Super R-Type and Darius Twin stood out as much as Dracula X to me. They're no R-Type 3 or Parodius but are perfectly serviceable games.
@@joshthefunkdoc , actually, I find that every Darius game that is before Darius Twin and Darius Force/Super Nova is mediocre, and the upgrade system that is in Darius Twin and Darius Force/Super Nova is FAR better what was in Darius/Darius +/Darius Alpha/Super Darius/Darius Extra Version, or Darius II/Super Darius II/Sagaia. I know that they had more levels than those games, but the upgrade system that was in the fire few entries of the Darius video game franchise makes them honestly LESS enjoyable in the end. Also, the upgrade system that was in Darius Twin, and Darius Force/Super Nova was such a good idea that Taito repeated it in Darius Gaiden/Darius Gaiden Extra, arguably the pinnacle of the franchise.
Now this is Pogranking*
Fun story (to me about Bill Laimbeer's Combat Basketball: I do annual ROM updates of R.B.I. Baseball, Tecmo Super Bowl and Ken Griffey MLB on NES and SNES. For the last 4 years, I've had a ROM update of Combat Basketball 2 in development limbo (I work on it between other projects). The teams featured are modern "evil" companies, such as Meta, Google, Pfizer and others while utilizing AI of NBA players (not just Bill Laimbeer).
4:10 im expecting a work transfer function any second
This has Jon Bois vibes and I'm here for it.
The google earth animations for this video was actually really cool and added a lot to this video.
Faceball 2000 is actually a port of Midi Maze for the Atari ST, which has the distinction of being the _first ever_ multiplayer first person shooter! Of course years later on a console its not quite as interesting.
AVGN covers games that were already dislike many games that were already disliked. He didn't affect things that much.
I appreciate this deep dive and analysis with the visual format. I could watch hours of videos like this!
Who is this William Robert Lee person you always mentions in every video of yours?
No idea but my guess would be someone on patreon that gives him a lot of money
Great Video!!!!!!!!! I am impressed by the work that went into making the list. Thank you Jason for the great explanation as well!!! You're getting up there with the likes of SNES Drunk....
3:49 this whole thing is just (X+1)/Y. I'm not sure why you wrote it in that convoluted form.
Race Drivin was a port and wasn't made of whole cloth. It clearly wasn't designed to work on the SNES. But there is an SA-1 hack where it runs at its intended framerate, and it's ok then. Stunt Race FX is probably still a more fun game even then though.
Next time this guy will be like, “Alright, here’s my Quantum Time Distortion Machine, which auto-generates precise rankings for each title on the 3DO”
I loved the wonky 3D Google Earth presentation. Super fun video, though I was personally wounded to see Shadowrun on this list and not Bubsy
My takeaway is that while numbers are a nice quick and dirty way to offer an assessment of the aggregate data at a glance, they don't dig down to the nuance of what makes any of these games stand out as crappy and why we assess games that are higher/lower differently than the data shows when doing a more focused critique. That being said, it is always fun to look at different ways to evaluate games. It would've been fun to see you compare this assessment to the results compiled by an A.I. and then critique it's critique.
dude i got your goodwill video on my homepage a while back and i'm glad i subbed, the videos have been awesome since, esp this one! love the editing style and concept, glad to see you blowin up a little
YOU GO BACK THERE AND TAKE SNES DOOM OUT OF THAT CARTRIGE SLOT IN THE THUMBNAIL
The C.R.A.P. score proves that being a disappointment is worse than being bad outright. If you're so bad you never get infamous for it, no one knows you're bad.
Ahhh the C.R.A..P. Score, soon to be the common metric.
My mom bought me Pit Fighter when I was a kid and t was new. I think it was a form of punishment.
I'm fairly certain Obitus didn't actually exist until you reviewed it.
We had the sega channel growing up and had access to a ton of genesis games. My sister and I played Ballz a lot. It was maybe the only game we played together. I just realized all of the innuendo and sex sounds. As a kid I don't think it ever occurred to me lmao
I'm embarassed by how many of these I rented back in the day. I would still count Bebe's Kids as an AVGN game because NC did it as part of a challenge with him, while James reviewed a movie (Ricky 1.) My personal worst SNES is The Rocketeer, just because I loved the movie so much.
I'm curious how you made this list, like what program did you use to tender the pillers.
There are many games that I don't agree with being on here, and I fully agree with you about Shaq-Fu being the most over hated game of all time.
I actually, and oddly, like Lester the Unlikely. What people miss, like you said, was it's a cinematic platformer. Similar to Out of This World, and Prince of Persia. The catch is, the longer you play the game, the more responsive he becomes. Going from scared and hunched over to standing up straight.. etc etc.
As for games like Race Driving, it was a port of an arcade game of the same name by Atari. Fun fact, the Genesis and Gameboy versions run better than the SNES version.
Stuff like Dracula X, Mystic Quest, Rival Turf and a few others don't even deserve to be in the same discussion as many of these games. Hong Kong 97 shouldn't even be listed, while it is a game, like you said it's not a real release.
...except that Rival Turf, Castlevania: Dracula X, Hong Kong 97, and those other video games that are legitimately bad ARE bad for very valid reasons, and, as for Doom, and Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest, well, first of all, the SNES/NSFC port of Doom was handled by a small team that had to literally rebuild the PC port of the video game from scratch, including the graphics, and the music, which many people feel is, gasp, SUPERIOR to the MIDI PC music, despite the limitations of an SNES/NSFC. Second, that port of Doom was one of the ports of the video game that had one of the shortest times of development ever (though not as brief as the Panasonic 3DO, Atari Jaguar, or Sega 32X ports of the video game). Third, Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest was not even actually a Final Fantasy game in Japan. Fourth, the game is good, albeit a bit too easy, in the Incantation sort of way, but it's an okay runner-up to The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past/BS Zelda: The Ancient Stone Tablets. Fifth, and lastly, were it not for the bad hit detection, delayed enemy deaths, horrible story, especially its original NTSB-J version, and gratingly mediocre, and repetitive, music, then Rushing Beat/Rival Turf would be a better video game than it is now (and yet that video game has made three increasingly better sequels of improving quality, with the next one being on modern platforms).
@paxhumana2015 Mystic Quest was made for Americans, and known as Final Fantasy USA: Mystic Quest in Japan.
What you may be thinking of are the Final Fantasy Legends which are The Romance series in JP
@@marbles8641 , no, it was actually a completely different name, kind of like how Dream Factory: Heart Thumping Panic became SMB2(USA)/SMUSA/SMA:SMB2(USA). Also, I;m aware of the Romancing Saga series, as I have the Sony PlayStation 2 remake of the first game in the series.
@@paxhumana2015 No, Final Fantasy Mystic Quest is called "ファイナルファンタジーUSA ミスティッククエスト (Fainaru Fantajī USA Misutikku Kuesuto) aka "Final Fantasy USA Mystic Quest" in Japan.
It doesn't have another name, and came out in America almost a full year before being released in Japan.
Oct 1992 in America, Sept 1993 in Japan.
@@marbles8641 , I must have confused the first Final Fantasy Legend game with this one, sorry. Yeah, it was Makai Toushi Sa-Ga, and The Final Fantasy Legend was actually, as well as originally, a spinoff of the Romancing Saga franchise.
Hey man, really digging your script writing. Great video as usual!
32:33 that's the ending of the film "BèBè's Kids" where Lil' Peewee unplugs the lights in Las Vegas, it was a funny movie and I loved it, but I never owned the game for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System…
worst games by region would be pretty cool, would be a massive headache though if you dont speak the language of said region though
Rise of The Robots was an insane mess of PR back in its day, worth watching videos on. Great vid and good science.
I recommend Matt Mcmuscles
I appreciate the inclusion of Rival Turf. It's a legendary "so bad it's good" beat 'em up. Hold down the L button, and you run around like a lunatic!
I was wondering where Pit Fighter would appear. Both surprised and unsurprised to see it at the top of the list.
Lester is nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. Perfectly serviceable PoP style adventure game.
Hey, that video is really great! Now, PLEASE do the same for other systems! Genesis? Game Boy? Master System? Atari 2600/7800/Lynx/Jaguar? Dreamcast? Wii? Would be GREAT... ;-)
Now I gotta know math to watch Vasons vids? I have to rethink my life.
Dude, well done. This video couldn't have been easy to make
GTA/RDR's controls are the spiritual successors to Lester the Unlikely.
Next video you need to rank the games by their E.V.I.L score (Every Villain Is Lemons)
Really enjoyed this video! The production values are great. Your editing is super clean, and the use of some 3D always looks awesome. I need to learn how to make some 3D shit.
30:27 Bro that game Bebe's Kids was copying assets from the Simpsons beatemup
That stage is literally just Krustyland 😭
Couple thoughts:
1. Who the hell put Uncharted Waters on their list?
2. It's really really weird how much AVGN covers people's views. James Rolfe has stated quite a few times that he's not a real critic, nor does he try to be, he's playing a character. Often times the nerd trashes games that he personally enjoys, like Simon's Quest.
We will find them, and we will get them!
James is just doing a comedy bit with AVGN, but he coincidentally gives really accurate reviews of the games at the same time. “Much truth is said in jest” is exactly how the character works.
AVGN made infamous many games that didn't deserved it, though.
@@SynthfulDuck , he is an overrated, and underwhelming, hack.
@@SynthfulDuck they absolutely did, I'm glad someone got as frustrated with Top Gun and Turtles as I was)
There's a patched ROM that uses the SA-1 chip that gets Race Drivin running at a fast framerate.
Also, AVGN did Pit Fighter in the Christmas wishlist episode.
Good catch! I completely forgot about that!
Even with the better framerate it's still not a good game. In 88 maybe the novelty of the game made it attractive but now, certainly not.
@@chrisd6287 Bro the arcade is great, the ports just can't replicate the experience and the snes one is particularly bad.
I love the Jon Bois-ness of this whole thing. Great video as always Jason
haha, I might be the one dork in the audience who's really, really curious as to the computation of the CRAP score. Fun stuff Jason. You created the PER for bad video games 🙂
Top notch work - keep it up Jason! You should definitely have more subscribers!
What is the music playing in the background in the beginning? Something in Mario Paint? I know I've heard it and it's killing me.
Dude same and I also think it's from Mario paint.
I recently discovered your channel and like your videos, so naturally I have to use my first time ever commenting on UA-cam to complain about something with one of them. It appears that the C.R.A.P. score formula you're using is actually 100/((Y/X)*(1+(1/X))), not 100/((X/Y)*(1+(1/X))) as displayed. The latter formula gives a score of 650 for Megaman Soccer, not 3.84!
Interesting, that’s actually what I originally said in the voice over, but sloppily swapped the x and y in my sentence while editing because the visuals didn’t match lol. So I messed up while animating then, not while speaking like I thought
Your music-mixing is really good.
Videos like these are why I predict Jason Graves to be a mega star some day. Love the effort and the results!
first video of yours i've ever watched and it was quality. sub'd and am gonna see what else you got.
Bebe's kids was on so much as a kid, I like the dad in it. I think he was the same dad from house party, right?
Your content has gotten more entertaining since I 1st saw you Red Cow. You got a new subscriber. Entertaining video, keep up the good work!
The Genesis version of Terminator 2 is actually better, and almost no one mentions it. The controls were streamlined to accommodate the 3 button pad, resulting in it playing better than the SNES version. It still has many of the same issues like the one life, no continues, etc., but I can stomach the Genesis version a little more than the SNES version.
Great video! I would love an NES list like this too
continuing to be impressed with your videos dood, I found you from the goodwill video and this kinda thing is right up my alley. reminds me a ton of the GOAT youtuber Jon Bois, this is the kinda number crunching nerdass stuff that i enjoy way too much. quite evident how much work you put into this, and it's appreciated. great job!
Your method of visualizing these lists is really fucking cool. I also appreciate that you collate the data and disqualify titles that are there just because they were simply disappointing, and not necessarily bad games in a vacuum.
Coming back to this, i'm genuinely shocked Captain Novolin wasn't a lot higher. That was always the most infamous of the educational titles even before the AVGN came around.
Thank you for educating people that disappointing games (especially in a great series) aren't necessarily bad games
Bethesda Purgatory
This was a great video. I rarely subscribe based on a single video, but I think I'll do it this time because I really liked your presentation. I had no idea you could do this kind of thing with Google Earth. Yeah, there's definitely some wonkiness to it but I like the general look of it all.
I also appreciate the concept you used for this video and the mathematical approach. My brain likes numbers so this was especially enjoyable to see you talk through, even if I disagreed with a lot of what these lists had concluded. 😂 But that's video games in a nutshell, everyone disagrees.
Drakkhen had amazing music though, I often slotted this cart just to hear the music while doing homework.
Hey man found your channel this week, been plowing through the videos since. Love this it reminds me of the long form secret base multi part essays.
jason graves out here giving the players the content they never knew that they needed
Nice video bro. I can only imagine the time it took to make this. Your video is well appreciated here. 💯👌
wow Jason! Love you 3D view of the graphics, at bird's view liek the
SECRET BASE youtube channel who focus on sports!
Cool to see the same quality for video games. And your quirky comments are always worth the listen!