Hey! I’d love to know why you used a switch instead of going from the Deco straight to the MoCA. Currently trying to solve a problem and that answer would help big time. Thanks!!!😊 - Big fan
@@reginacastaneda4955 you could go straight from the Deco to the MoCA but, i have 12 additional cables running throughout my house so that's why i'm using a switch.
lol @ 1:50 he sets the AP right next to a fish tank. In case anyone is wondering, water is one of the best materials for absorbing radio waves. If you want to block your AP from covering a certain area, this is one of the best ways to do it. It's even better than concrete because it doesn't bounce off and reflect. It just stops it cold.
Just bought a house a few months ago. First thing I did since I have a full basement is run RG6 and Cat6 to every room. Some rooms have multiple drops if there is a possibility in putting furniture in a different arrangement or the potential need for another jack elsewhere. Long ago, I used to install networks for a big box retailer, so I have the knowledge on how to do this.. Happy I did it. Just hope the next owner realized how nice it is to have the house 100% wired in every room and have an awesome network rack with nicely combed/labeled wires coming into a patch panel... The Coax to Ethernet converter is interesting, always wondered how fast they were. Right now I can get about a gig from any room in the house, and that's nice to have.
Thats something i want but im not smart enough to tackle this myself. The thought of me drilling and making holes in all the walls and not to mention the dangers of the whole operation... my partner will go ape shyt on me.
I have been using an Actiontec MoCA setup in my 3000 sq. ft. home for over 10 years. The main MoCA adapter connects directly to the Internet using ethernet cable via my router. This main MoCA adapter will now send Internet through my entire coax cable wiring in my home. So, I have three MoCA extenders that not only provide direct ethernet cable connections but also contain a dual-band Wi-Fi transmitter. Simply connect a MoCA extender to any coax outlet in my home and Wala I have high speed Internet access. We have coax cable throughout our home and this MoCA system has worked flawlessly. Highly recommend MoCA for anyone having coverage issues but have coax wired in their home. Before MoCA, I tried Powerline extenders but performance was mediocre at best. MoCA uses your home's "shielded" coax cable which protects the integrity of the Internet signal. Great video, thanks!
I've gotten the same moca adapter along with the moca router/extender and I can't seem to get anything connected, I have my adapter connected to the main router via ethernet, than the coax cable running to the router/extender yet can't seem to get internet even though it shows up on my wifi list & the coax cable doesn't light up on either ends of the moca devices even tho being connected directly, is there a way to fix these issues?
@@RiZeEmpire You may have a defective MoCA adapter(s). Test it by simply connecting a short maybe 2 feet of coax cable between the two adapters. If you still don't get the "Coax lights" to shine on both devices, then consider one or both adapters are defective. Good luck!
@@stevenz933It's not always the adapter. Linus from Linus Tech tried using MoCA adapters on one of his employee's internet setup and couldn't get it to work, adapters weren't defective. It depends on the coax wiring in your hous..
I started doing ethernet over cable / MoCA about 2 years ago. My internet cable modem / my router had to be installed in a closet where house cable junctions were. I wanted to have a hard wired LAN connection for my office network / computers 60' away. Never had any problems with it. Good topic for a video as most people are not aware this can be done.
Just wanted to point out that even with out of use coax there are a few gotchas to watch out for. Splitters inside the walls can lead to problems if they're rated under 1000mhz. Powered "booster" splitters cause issues, and multiple splits can cause issues too. As long as each room is a home-run all should be fine but if there are issues, these are the things to check.
I think this is happening to me. I'm getting really low speeds and a ping of 40-50. I didn't expect to get 1 gbps but something like 400-500 would show me it's actually working. I don't even know how to get to the splitters. I think they're in the walls.
WOW, YOU JUST REINVENTED MoCa lol. I am a former DirecTV installer, which I started by 1996. I made my first MoCa connection by 2008, after my MoCa training. Yeah, there is a lot advantage using MoCa, the primary reason was, distance, and time and labor saver. The most important thing I love about it is NOT speed nor packets lost. In some cases MoCa is obsolete use, mean while, for COAX LOVERS it is still a breath.
I have used the ActionTec (now known as ScreenBeam) MoCA adapters for 4 years now and they work fantastic, giving me 1gb wired network speeds all through my home. Speedtest averages around 940Mbps down, 940Mbps up using AT&T Fiber for my internet provider. You can mix other brands in your MoCA network and they'll work fine... I have one of the Motorola MoCA adapters on a guest bedroom and it works with the ActionTec adapters.
I have 3 family members working from home that need hi-speed connectivity in each office location. So does that mean I would need 3 screen beam MoCA adapters, 1 for each room? TIA!
I use a screenbeam to provide better signal near my office. My office equipment then runs WiFi. I use ASUS WiFi mesh with the SB as backhaul as you have here. However, every morning I have reboot that mesh node, no others. If I don’t I have no connection from my laptop. My other mesh nodes have Ethernet backhaul and reboot automatically every morning at 4am as scheduled on the main router. Does anyone have any idea why I get this behavior on that node? Do I have to change a setting on either end? Are there settings in the SB? Does it hibernate when not receiving signal? I’m to the point where I might swap nodes and see if I have a faulty one.
We just bought a house in December that was built in 91 that is wired very well with coax all over the place even the kitchen. MoCa saved the day for us! So easy and fast!
here is a better idea. I used the installed coax cables in the walls as fish tape to pull the ethernet cables. Doing this worked out very well. it was very easy and cheap to do
@J J the ones in my walls were stapled in using those nails in the shape of a U. it was loose enough for me to easily slide the coax and taped ethernet cable thru it. others might be different but all the ones I had would like this
Totally agree, that is the better answer for regular size homes, but large homes with coax can go horizontal and vertical multiple times making it difficult to pull and more likely to snag somewhere sealed tight with fire resistant caulk or fire blocks. This product completely negates that issue while also letting the user keep there non-moca tv connection completely open and usable.
Bro! It’s important to tell everyone that you log into your AT&T gateway and place it in BRIDGE mode, to ensure you allow your Deco system to fully take over. Just turning off the wifi broadcasting won’t do ya any good. You’ll experience intermittent connectivity.
My DECO System issues IP's on a separate subnet than the AT&T Router, so I don't see any benefit in switching to Bridge mode. I am not having any issues and my internet speeds seem fine.
There are really two ways to tackle this. You can disable WIFI on the ATT router and then put your mesh units in access point mode. So they only do WiFi. That's fine. Or you can put it in bridge mode and have the Meshes do everything. The latter is ideal, but some ISPs are real arseholes about not seeing their router live.
I also have been using MoCA for over 10 years (Tivo User). The modem router supplied by Comcast/Xfinity has it built in, but I did have to get assistance to enable it. It works flawlessly with no technical setup. I do have a filter to stop the signal at the demarc and a signal booster as I have numerous cable connections and spliters.
Make sure you check behind that coax wall plate. Make sure that fitting is good. Lots of homes with pre-wired coax have bad fittings (braid coming out the back of the fitting, dielectric suck out, excessively long center conductor, braid wrapped around the center conductor) I could go on and on. These fittings were most likely installed by the builder, and they just don't have the experience with attaching compression style fittings.
I have fiber run to my house but no ethernet to the rooms. So I used the existing coax with moca 2.5gb adapters, ran the fiber ONT into the moca and then from moca back to ethernet into a pfsense router. Using that existing coax that was doing nothing to avoid running ethernet and destroying some walls. It works!
I too have Ethernet running throughout my house from a communications ingress in my first floor closet. Used a MoCa device to hardwire my office that didn’t have a network drop. Very easy to do.
I dumped my cable TV (keeping ethernet) and then used MoCA adapters with ROKU across my internal coax cables. Works great throughout the house and saved myself $130/mo. Just needed the correct filter where the main coax comes into the house.
Very helpful information, indeed! We have coax cables running to practically every room in our home. Our current setup with Spectrum cable internet is that the internet cable enters our home in the utility room in the farthest north corner of our basement. From there, there is a dedicated coax cable running to my office in the farthest south corner of the basement where we have our WiFi router to send a wireless signal to the entire house (5,000 square feet). We then have a WiFi extender on the main floor somewhat close to the location of the WiFi router in the basement. This has been working pretty well for the most part to get a signal to the basement rooms, the Roku in the master bedroom and kitchen on the main floor and outside in the back yard. I like the idea of using the existing coax cables to increase the signal to other parts of our home. Until recently, our only option for internet service has been Spectrum cable. AT&T Fiber is now available to our home. We scheduled an appointment to have someone come to our home and get us connected but, we were not happy with how they were going to install it. Simply drill a hole straight through the wall (from the inside to the outside) in my basement office which would have been about six feet above the floor. We said, "Absolutely not!". We are going to ask an AT&T rep to come back out so we can discuss in more detail how they are going to get the line from the node to our home, where it needs to enter our home, what will be on the outside, where it needs to enter our home on the inside, what requirements are needed near the inside entry point (electrical outlet, etc.) so we can ensure proper installation. We were not impressed with that initial visit. The main thing is this video opened my eyes to more possibilities and things to consider before we make a change in our internet provider. So, I thank you for sharing this with us!
For ppl who cant figure out their coax, they sell a simple toner at Lowes or Home depot. If you're using a cable company, you will need a mocha filter at the demarc, outside hookup, to prevent mocha from getting in the mainline.
I've been using the gocoax moca 2.5 adapters since last summer to get a wired connection into my home theater and it's been great. Just a heads up though that it wasn't completely plug and play in my house. Initially I was only getting about 90 Mbps through it. It ended up being due to 2 issues. One was I have a loose connection on one of my wall plates. The other was due to the cheap splitters that Cox or DTV (not sure who last touched before I moved in) used. Once I redid those connections I'm benchmarking over 900 on my gig connection now. I should fixed the wiring now to the far end of the house to put another node there with an AP to give a stronger connection to my cameras.
After spending thousands of dollars on different routers and Mesh systems over the years, I found this to be a great and fast solution. I used the one with the 2.5Gb ethernet jack and it served as a good backhaul for my Mesh system. Last week my internet provider marked the ground for fibre optic installation. They offer 8Gb internet speeds. I called my electrician and had the whole house done properly with Cat 8 Cables with ethernet jack outlets. Also, I upgraded my Wifi Mesh and purchased 2 Asus AXE 16000 (it has 2 10Gbe ports) routers. Finally, I bought a bunch of 10Gb switches to finish up this setup. The MOCA setup is definitely great for those who need convenience and do not require more than 2.5Gb network speeds.
I just did this in my home. I had to use 4 of these devices because not everything ran through the basement hub, but it worked well, and all devices are at (or close to) the max speed that I pay for through my provider
One tip: Since the deco xe75 pro has three ethernet ports, you can use the 3rd port on your main router to go straight to the moca adapter. I have it setup this way for one less hop to the nodes.
Yeah have been using MOCA for 7-8 years now. It's the backhaul of my mesh wifi network. Most streaming apps work a lot better over a wired connection and MOCA fits the need.
I want to run the reverse… will it work? I’m trying to use my Ethernet wired how to carry a coaxial video signal and also a coaxial data signal? Want to be able to have a cable box but only have cat 6 cable runs.
I use my ISP-provided modem/wifi router and an additional ISP-provided Plume pod to extend my WiFi. I use the 2.5 screen beam adapters to utilize one of my coax runs as an Ethernet backhaul. Works like a charm.
As for the TP-Link Deco Mesh systems, in my experience they are a great bang for the buck. I typically deploy the P9 3 pack (when peak speeds are not required and stability and reliability are higher priorities) due to its use of powerline networking+wifi or ethernet+wifi combined backhaul for homes with walls that impede wireless (structural walls tend to do this, washrooms with a wire mesh in the floor to support tile, etc.) or where there are no electrical outlets available in the ideal locations for each AP (which I find common in homes here). Unfortunately the P9 is EoL and it's replacement the PX50 appears to be US only (TP-Link Canada told me they have no plans to bring it to Canada). I would love a hybrid mesh kit that supports max WiFi 6/6E speeds, ethernet backhaul, MoCA 2.5/3.0 backhaul, and Powerline AV2 2000 backhaul, that would be the mesh kit I'd provide clients without even considering anything else other than Uniquiti UniFi (which of course would be more expensive)
I'll second all of that. I'm a professional IT consultant, and the P9 3-pack has been my go-to mesh kit for the last couple of years. I've worked with all the other major manufacturers' mesh kits, and they all require multiple attempts to get access points online, and then, after the mesh is up, I've often gotten called back when access points fall offline. None of the TP-Link kits I've deployed win speed competitions, but they have yet to generate an unhappy client. They set up like clockwork, usually on the first attempt, and they usually stay up until someone unplugs an access point or the power fails.
@@mar4kl Yeah, the P9 3 pack is great! I used it in a client's home, it's a split-level home with a thick load bearing wall in the middle of the home with no wifi and the home was likely built in the '60s, not sure when the basement was done, '90s or '00s probably, so a mix of older and newer electrical. Could not get a wifi signal from the upper levels to the basement with any normal router or mesh system because of the wall and the available power outlets for 2nd floor were not ideal from a wifi perspective. The P9 solved this problem perfectly, older electrical wiring, bad power outlet locations, thick wall and all! As long as the customer doesn't mind not having peak performance and prefers reliability and stability, then this kit makes for a happy customer! I've used Linksys Velops successfully too and heard good things about Netgear Orbis (mind you, not really a mesh system, but close enough), but despite the lower price points and supposed lack of features (tri-band with dedicated 5GHz backhaul, etc.), the Decos punch above their weight class! Just too bad the P9 is EOL and the replacement PX50 isn't expected to come to Canada. We need more hybrid powerline mesh kits.
Back in the day, ethernet was run using Coax, so no surprise there. 🙂 The bummer is that we only have three Coax connections in our house, and mostly in the wrong areas for something like this. When we built the house 25+ years ago, we had ethernet put in ... unfortunately for nowdays, all Cat 5. Worked great for many years ... initially ran off a 10 Mbps hub ... but now it restricts anyone on the network (I connect directly to the Router, but no one else can) to about 80 Mbps. I've been thinking about adding Mesh to make my wife happier.
Really so. Ethernet started with thick-coax, then come thin-coax with BNC-connectors, both with tapped connections in the middle, then come AT&T_Systimax + RJ-45 with start shaped cabling, now Systimax is called Cat-cable.
I used MoCA adapters to put wifi into a 15000 sq house a few years ago. They had home run coax to each room. Ended up installing 7 wifi routers to cover the entire home. I used software to see signal strength and moved things around as needed. They had barely any coverage to full coverage. One room on the east end had a 3 foot thick wall of brick and stone from an old expansion. The other part is I had to HIDE the routers....
@@DriveCarToBar I think the idea is that it adds wifi wireless signal strength to all sides of the home. Acts like a mesh system but better, along with extra ethernet plugins for each router. I'm thinking of doing the same but with 2 routers or maybe 3.
@@THANOS_Disciple Don't use routers. Use wireless access points. If need be, put a PoE switch in to run the AP and give you the extra network port you need. There are also access points that will give you an additional LAN port on-board. Unifi and Ruckus both come to mind. Even the TP Link Deco Mesh units give you an additional port.
@@DriveCarToBar I dodn't have much of a choice but to use wireless routers. This was several years ago when ACs were crap. Also, i could not use PoE. There was no direct ethernet. I ended up having to create a moca network for everything.
LUCKY YOU to have all your coax cables neatly organized into the box…I have ONE coax cable that works in the entire house so I need to go underneath and try to figure out how I can drag it to the other side of the house and up into the wall to move my internet setup…nice.
I’ve been told “MoCA is the home run”. It is amazingly fast. I’ve also found homes that have CAT 5 run for the home phone which nobody uses anymore. That is an easy conversion for hi-speed Wi-Fi.
I'm getting 1GB over my Cat 5, not 5e, but Cat 5. Even had the ability to plug in some POE Unifi inwalls without issue to the regular cat 5, and it works great.
@@adamr4198 That’s what I’ve been doing for several years, I wired every “phone jack” (PSTN?) in my house, to be used strictly used for internet data, it’s nice to have Ethernet connections all over the house…..it just sucks that all these “smart devices” only run on wifi. I’m looking to bypass this crap modem/router (moto BGW210) that AT&T uses for my 1g fiber internet, the WiFi signal blows! I’m thinking I can get by with 2 mesh devices…..any thoughts?
MoCA 3.0 is supposed to start shipping pretty much any time now. It's rated at 10Gbps. If you're looking at getting into MoCA and can wait a bit longer, it's probably worth it to wait until later this year / early next year for the massive speed boost of the new version.
@@devonsykes2598 - Huh??? Can you point me to a shipping MoCA 3.0 or 3.1 adapter currently on the market? The MoCA 3.0 specs were released in 2018, with the first commercial chips expected to start being available to product manufacturers in late 2022 / early 2023. Once the chips are available, then companies will probably take a couple months to ramp up production of products and put them on the market. There's literally no MoCA 3.1 spec even on the MoCA alliance roadmap, let alone shipping product (which is usually several years after a spec is released). Maybe you're confusing MoCA with HomePNA 3.1? But, HomePNA 3.1 has a maximum speed of 320Mbps, where MoCA 2.5 has a maximum speed of 2.5Gbps and MoCA 3.0 has a maximum speed of 10Gbps.
@@someoneoncesaid6978 no lol moca 3.0 has been homes for years. I’m a cable technician…. I instal moca 3.1 modems on the daily. Very little people still use dated 3.0 modems
@@someoneoncesaid6978 it’s impossible to achieve more than a GB of speed in a coax line anyways. Fiber yes coax is limited. Like I said search up sagecoms wifi 6 or hitron 3.1 moca it’s like a tall box Bassicly
What I have is a MoCA block installed in the ceiling of my basement. So, basically it allows you to pump in the signal from the screenbeam then it sends the ethernet signal out through all of the coaxial terminations in your home simultaneously. So, same thing as you have here except instead of plugging the screebeam into one coaxial, you tie it into the coaxial MoCA splitter block.
Thanks for the video! I'm in the process of doing this at my house. Have lots of coax, but few Ethernet ports. Mesh system is okay, but loses a lot going through walls, so I want to hardwire the satellites. Router is near a coax, so gotta MOCA that, reroute the coax splitter, then adapt one of those cables to feed the Ethernet switch I added. It's never simple, lol. Kinda sad to see how much signal loss you still get, but it's at least a good improvement over what you had. 🤷🏻♂️
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but it is a good idea to put a MoCA Point of Entry filter on your cable inlet to avoid having your network go back up the cable line outside of your house.
lol, that's too advanced for this UA-camr. Don't worry, just send all your network traffic to your entire town by doing the method shown in this video. UA-cam is great, but sometimes in this example, it's really not. Perhaps the UA-camr might take a intro to networking class first.
I have a single ActionTec MoCA adapter connected to my router. This allowed me to get rid of the Verizon FiOS router which also acted as a MoCA adapter for the 3 cable boxes while still allowing for on demand and interactive content. Works wonderfully.
I see that you covered the RJ-45 CAT5/5E/6 jack with tape, are you planning to replace your existing network cable with MoCA? Unless your cabling is older CAT5 (most CAT5 made in the last 10 years is probably actually CAT5E even if no5 rated as such), then I would not use MoCA as a replacement, only in addition to. My recommended hierarchy of different LAN connectivity is as follows: 1) Fibre (only if money is not really a concern) 2) CAT5E/6/6A 3) MoCA 2.5 (or soon 3.0, but. MoCA adapters can get expensive, at least here in Canada) 4) MoCA 1.0/2.0 (only if 2.5 is not available to you) 5) Powerline networking (preferably the AV2 2000 spec for close to full duplex gigabit speeds, no experience with the latest Gh.n standard from Europe that is used by TP-Link in their latest hybrid powerline mesh wifi system PX50, which unfortuantly wont come to Canada apparently) 6) WiFi (unless mobility is required or not supported, such as new Roku and most smart home devices (don't even get me started in the lack of wired options for smart home devices) WiFi is lowest priority for me. I tell customers all the time wired is ALWAYS superior to wireless, unless mobility is required, most are baffled by this and don't seem to understand. Oh the power of marketing.
I wish I had seen this six months ago when I set up my vacation home with extra mesh routers that I probably didn't need. Great info thank you. I will now go back and do it right.
If you place your mesh waypoints within a proper range from the main hub and the device supports wifi 6E it should always fluctuate between 700 - 900 mb/s wirelessly .
My biggest issue so far with ATT Fiber is, they installed the router in my Garage. I am concerned that heat will negatively impact the router come summer time. I may have to consider investing in having a Fiber drop installed from the Entry point of the house to the Wiring closet.
Since my router using the coax cable in the gameroom would I use a coax splitter? One side is router other side is the ScreenBeam device? Then I plug in the other ScreenBeam where I want the connect to go?
I log into my ISPs modem/router and turn off the wifi and put it into NAT Bridge mode. Now it only works as a Modem. Then I use my own business class router to manage the Clients in my home. WiFi access points, TVs, Computers, Phones and large Security Camera system are all managed much easier with your own Router and APs.
Hi, is there a way to convert the coax wall port to a analog line? My builder put coax cables throughout my house and in my office I have no telephone line port for my fax machine but 2 coax ports.
Been using moca for years now and twice I had a problem with a malfunctioning action tech causing issues and disconnects with the rest of my system. Went through 2 expensive routers last time before unplugging the actiontec and the router worked flawlessly after that. New screenbeam and all is well.
Great vid. I have fiber to the home that connects in my basement. From the switch I use a straight run coax leftover from an old dish system (via goCoax adapters) to my eero Wi-Fi router upstairs: 500 Mbps up/down.
I found out about MoCA, because my cable company uses it to network our DVR devices. I have been using MoCA devices for a few years now. It is such a great sollution. Your can just add a MoCA adapter with WiFi and in my experience it's superior to MESH WiFi.
Nice video. I do mostly like what you have to say in the video, however, one thing you don't mention that I think might have been important to mention is that the MoCA2 adapters are quite expensive! I saw your video recently. The house I'm currently living in has ethernet cable that runs along the outside of the house and enters through the wall and into the bedroom (I don't know why it was done like that, but that is how it was when we moved in). The ethernet cable goes from my room, which is on the top floor, just over top of the garage, and runs down to my brother's room which is downstairs near the back yard. His room was sharing the ethernet connection from my room as my room as the modem provided by our internet provider. Recently the ethernet cord seems to have died. When I snip the end off the ethernet cord in my brother's room (about 3 or 4 inches off), I noticed the wiring is NOT healthy looking. It looked cracked and the wiring looked quite oxidized, which is what I think is causing his internet issues. I would love to be able to use the MoCA2 adapter as we both have cable outlets in our rooms and that would have worked perfectly, but a little over $300 is a tough pill to swallow. Instead, I'm going to have to buy ethernet cable, attach an outlet onto both his wall and my wall and rerun fresh cable through and attach the cable to the outlet I attach, this way should the cable fail at some point, it will be much easier to replace as I just unattach the cable and attach a new one. This will cost me about $80 (and time). The most expensive part of that whole ordeal will be the ethernet cable, which in my case I'll need probably 50 to 75ft of cable. I'll have to do some measurements to find out for sure how much, but it is much cheaper. I just WISH your method COULD be done at an affordable price-point as I agree the coaxial cable WOULD be much better!
I have frontier internet in southern California and the mocha adapters that they install in my house Would fail regularly and they actually sent a tech out to disable them all. I hope these will work better
Just installed a set of screen beams in a 100+ year old house with virtually no access to pull new cat 6 cabling! Saved me so much work of trying to pull cabling! Of course the coax wasn’t labeled so it was the last coax cable I tried out of 4 that connected to an old 3 way switch!
What do you need the splitter for? Also, if I have a current mesh system and i want to plug a few of them in by ethernet through coax, will they still function properly like a mesh system or will they behave like independant access points?
27 years ago, when I had my house built, I had the builder wire each room with 2 coaxial cables and 2 phone lines! I was going to use the second coaxial cable to send video through out the house from my laserdisc player and 3 years later my TiVo. After a few years I wanted to network my 2 desktop computers and I didn’t want to hassle of running cat5 cables through my walls, so I repurposed the coax to network the computers. It worked well for years until WiFi came out .
Thank you. I didn’t know this was possible. I am faced with the same situation trying to set up a backhaul for my mesh system. This was great help… thanks 🙏🏽
Question: Why use a switch and the deco in the first room at all? Can't you just plug the screenbeam from the cable Modem into the screenbeam directly? Or why plug the Deco into a switch then into the Screenbeam? Concern: I have a new Amplifi Alien mesh router and wanted to use this as my new primary router in the house for the fastest possible WIFI. My issue is that all the coax cables have direct internet access from ISP, but I cant just plug in the screenbeam as a coax to ethernet adapter. SO in one room, I have a coax line split to the screenbeam and my coax router. In the next room, I have a second screenbeam taking the signal and translating it to ethernet for the Amplifi router.. except the Amplifi router cannot put off a new WIFI signal from this. I can test download speed from it via onboard touch screen, and the ethernet cable works from Amplifi to other device.. but I am unable to even identify a WIFI network signal from the Amplifi at all.
at 7:27 when you're pluggin the coax in, what is the other side connected to? I'm a bit lost at this point unless you have another adapter for the other end.
In most homes, your cable ISP comes into a small box, usually on either side of your home. In this box, is the main line from the cable provider comes in from the street. There's a splitter that sends that signal from the cable company to the various coax lines in your home. In short, that cable you're mentioning ends up in that junction box. You don't necessarily need to worry about it unless that cable is unplugged at the junction box.
Question, cable connections are throughout my house. One of them is used to connect to my cable Modem, which is connected to my wifi Orbi router. Can I use a cable splitter and use the same cable outlet that feeds my modem to the screenbeam device to connect to my wifi Router? Will the signal piggyback on the cable to send to a cable jack elsewhere in the house? I have a spot that needs a stronger signal than my mesh system will deliver.
So my question is if my router that my provider installed is already using coax can i use one screen beam in my room or would i need to run one at the router and one in my room?
Question,. Can I bypass using another router and still use my modem with wifi capabilities to use the mesh wifi with an attachment via coax? I would love to install a mesh node in another part of the house, but not need another router middle manning the modem and mesh system.
Steve, i have a larger mid 90s home that has a split design. Could i put the coax converter in a central location and use a splitter and put 2 out on each side of the house for total 3 devices, or do i need four? 2 for each line? does that make sense?
Quick follow up on this. 1st off, thanks for posting! 2nd, he's my current set up. Cable provider comes into house on the COAX. I then have to go from COAX to my modem and wireless router. So that's the set up I currently have and I want to come off the COAX in two rooms straight to ethernet. Is one of these sufficient in each room to achieve this goal? Plain and simple, I want to take my son's gaming computer OFF the Wireless and get him wired to the network directly. Appreciate the feedback!
So, I'm trying to figure out how this sort of system works. Would I just be able to plug the transmitter into any coax outlet and the receiver in any other coax outlet and have it work? Or will the cable splitting off into different areas and whatnot cause issue?
Pretty much. The main unit needs to be plugged in close to where your router is. You plug an ethernet cable into the main unit and then plug that unit into the coax port. You then plug in the secondary unit in the room where you need a connection and that has a coax cable. You plug an ethernet cable from that unit into your computer or network switch or other device.
Is that a deco i see? If you’re thinking to get one then please please please consider your usage carefully. Tplink deco have no fixed ethernet port. If your wan goes down then any lan connected to main hub will go down because it’s searching for wan on all available port. It sucks and Tplink doesn’t seem to want to fix it anytime soon
Quick question. If you have a cable modem then how do you have an internet connection when the coaxial cable is not connected to your modem. Where is the connection coming from for the internet to your modem. I like this idea I’m just trying to figure out how that part works.
If I plan to run a deco mesh system with 2 satellites, do I need to do anything to my existing coax cable network? Or just put a Moca adapter at each router? FYI, all my wall jacks run to a splitter in the attic. I don't have any services currently running on this system.
My equipment has a modem and a router provided by spectrum. How do I connect the moca to that setup? I just want to use it to enhance the wifi connection with a wifi mesh.
Something additional you should mention is once everything is connected, unplug and reboot all equipment and those speeds should be even better once everything has been reset.
I've been using the screenbeam for a while now, it's better overall to just try to install ethernet anyways using the existing coax routes but if you are renting this is just fine. could vary depending on if you have cable tv or not despite them being on different frequencies
Thank you for the video. But I do not agree this is a solution, If your particular home they ran all the cables to one spot. Most cables installers from providers will run the cables to the outside of the home or garage depending on the setting and from there they will use a splitter. I want to say 80% of homes you will find this. You will have to reroute and rewire the Coax cable, might as well use CAT 6. You got lucky the cables were ran that way in your case.
Great video. I have the same set up as you except my extender is Eero. My cable modem is in the basement. I was able to find the coax to my office which is upstairs. I can see on the Eero app that it is wired to the right room. Unfortunately it is only modestly boosting the speed. I don't think the connections are off so I am trying to figure out why there is no appreciable increase. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
The biggest thing is be careful that one of your cable or satellite boxes are not already using MoCa. Whole home DVRs often use MoCa. I used MoCa to network 2 TiVos and it was the way to go.
Too many variables here as pointed out in the comments... You are counting on a) properly installed RG6 or 59 cabling that has not degraded or has cracked shielding, b) properly installed RG6 or 59 fittings (many installers do NOT do a good job on this part, resulting in signal loss), c) you are now introducing 2 devices that are probably made with substandard electronics powered by electrical power, meaning one or both could be faulty at any given moment, d) now, you also need 2 ethernet cables, one at each end, which is also subject to failures or degradation of signal. For about the cost of these devices, you could simply have RJ 45 run through to the den area with a couple keystone jacks and get rid of ALL the electronics in between. Another solution is use a PoE switch and use Ruckus or some PoE capable wifi mesh device that eliminates the need for power at the AP. There are a lot of ways to skin this cat; I see the value in using coax ONLY if the RJ45 is out of spec to the switch (i.e., over 300 feet) or if there is heavy interference - certainly cheaper than fiber run (this is a home setup). Just my opinion.. do it once and do it right with a proper RJ run to the needed area.
Currently I have a second router plugged into my main router, so that way I have an upstairs and downstairs network. Is there anyway I could set the second router to work as an extender rather than making it’s own double NAT network?
Is your 2nd router providing wifi coverage upstairs? If so, see if it has an access point mode. I think most modern routers have this. When you enable it, it disables all routing functionality and just acts as a wifi access point. If it isn't being used for wifi and you need wired connections, it makes more sense to install a network switch instead of a second router.
the problem is with a modern home network structure, you likely want all the cable to go back to one location inside your house like a closet or a wall panel somewhere. Mine on the other hand all goes back outside where the main line from my provider comes into the house outside my garage. I don't want my network rack in my garage. Where I live is SUPER warm and humid and electronics will not do well out there. The best place would be an unused closet on the complete opposite end of the house, so I cant even use the old coax cable to fish through new Ethernet cable and even if I could, most builders clamp or nail cable to the framing of the house instead of being sensible and using conduit.
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Hey! I’d love to know why you used a switch instead of going from the Deco straight to the MoCA. Currently trying to solve a problem and that answer would help big time. Thanks!!!😊
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@@reginacastaneda4955 you could go straight from the Deco to the MoCA but, i have 12 additional cables running throughout my house so that's why i'm using a switch.
can something like a netgear 4 port switch be used on one of your outlets. Like in a media room where you have computers and other electronics?
lol @ 1:50 he sets the AP right next to a fish tank. In case anyone is wondering, water is one of the best materials for absorbing radio waves. If you want to block your AP from covering a certain area, this is one of the best ways to do it. It's even better than concrete because it doesn't bounce off and reflect. It just stops it cold.
Just bought a house a few months ago. First thing I did since I have a full basement is run RG6 and Cat6 to every room. Some rooms have multiple drops if there is a possibility in putting furniture in a different arrangement or the potential need for another jack elsewhere. Long ago, I used to install networks for a big box retailer, so I have the knowledge on how to do this.. Happy I did it. Just hope the next owner realized how nice it is to have the house 100% wired in every room and have an awesome network rack with nicely combed/labeled wires coming into a patch panel... The Coax to Ethernet converter is interesting, always wondered how fast they were.
Right now I can get about a gig from any room in the house, and that's nice to have.
Thats something i want but im not smart enough to tackle this myself. The thought of me drilling and making holes in all the walls and not to mention the dangers of the whole operation... my partner will go ape shyt on me.
@@dfektd1 partner? Business partner? Or do you mean your wife or husband?
@@philmccracken2012 the wifey lol
I have been using an Actiontec MoCA setup in my 3000 sq. ft. home for over 10 years. The main MoCA adapter connects directly to the Internet using ethernet cable via my router. This main MoCA adapter will now send Internet through my entire coax cable wiring in my home. So, I have three MoCA extenders that not only provide direct ethernet cable connections but also contain a dual-band Wi-Fi transmitter. Simply connect a MoCA extender to any coax outlet in my home and Wala I have high speed Internet access. We have coax cable throughout our home and this MoCA system has worked flawlessly. Highly recommend MoCA for anyone having coverage issues but have coax wired in their home. Before MoCA, I tried Powerline extenders but performance was mediocre at best. MoCA uses your home's "shielded" coax cable which protects the integrity of the Internet signal. Great video, thanks!
I've gotten the same moca adapter along with the moca router/extender and I can't seem to get anything connected, I have my adapter connected to the main router via ethernet, than the coax cable running to the router/extender yet can't seem to get internet even though it shows up on my wifi list & the coax cable doesn't light up on either ends of the moca devices even tho being connected directly, is there a way to fix these issues?
@@RiZeEmpire You may have a defective MoCA adapter(s). Test it by simply connecting a short maybe 2 feet of coax cable between the two adapters. If you still don't get the "Coax lights" to shine on both devices, then consider one or both adapters are defective. Good luck!
@@stevenz933It's not always the adapter. Linus from Linus Tech tried using MoCA adapters on one of his employee's internet setup and couldn't get it to work, adapters weren't defective. It depends on the coax wiring in your hous..
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@@RiZeEmpire could be a wiring issue with the existing coaxial
I started doing ethernet over cable / MoCA about 2 years ago. My internet cable modem / my router had to be installed in a closet where house cable junctions were. I wanted to have a hard wired LAN connection for my office network / computers 60' away. Never had any problems with it. Good topic for a video as most people are not aware this can be done.
did this today for my ps5 no regrets
I used MoCa 2.5 adapters connected from my router in panel in laundry room to each coax cable and no problems.
Just wanted to point out that even with out of use coax there are a few gotchas to watch out for. Splitters inside the walls can lead to problems if they're rated under 1000mhz. Powered "booster" splitters cause issues, and multiple splits can cause issues too. As long as each room is a home-run all should be fine but if there are issues, these are the things to check.
Great advice! Thanks Kevin.
Yes any amplifier has to be moca bypass or it will kill the signal.
I think this is happening to me. I'm getting really low speeds and a ping of 40-50. I didn't expect to get 1 gbps but something like 400-500 would show me it's actually working. I don't even know how to get to the splitters. I think they're in the walls.
@@stevenortiz8525 Any splitters are likely be in the attic, crawlspace, or behind a wall plate as they would need to be accessible if they go bad.
@@reasonerkevin depends on the age of the house. I’ve found them behind drywall in walls and in between sub floors.
WOW, YOU JUST REINVENTED MoCa lol. I am a former DirecTV installer, which I started by 1996. I made my first MoCa connection by 2008, after my MoCa training. Yeah, there is a lot advantage using MoCa, the primary reason was, distance, and time and labor saver. The most important thing I love about it is NOT speed nor packets lost. In some cases MoCa is obsolete use, mean while, for COAX LOVERS it is still a breath.
I have used the ActionTec (now known as ScreenBeam) MoCA adapters for 4 years now and they work fantastic, giving me 1gb wired network speeds all through my home. Speedtest averages around 940Mbps down, 940Mbps up using AT&T Fiber for my internet provider. You can mix other brands in your MoCA network and they'll work fine... I have one of the Motorola MoCA adapters on a guest bedroom and it works with the ActionTec adapters.
I have 3 family members working from home that need hi-speed connectivity in each office location. So does that mean I would need 3 screen beam MoCA adapters, 1 for each room?
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@@ytvideos101 If they require an ethernet connection and can't use Wifi, then yes.
I use a screenbeam to provide better signal near my office. My office equipment then runs WiFi. I use ASUS WiFi mesh with the SB as backhaul as you have here. However, every morning I have reboot that mesh node, no others. If I don’t I have no connection from my laptop. My other mesh nodes have Ethernet backhaul and reboot automatically every morning at 4am as scheduled on the main router. Does anyone have any idea why I get this behavior on that node? Do I have to change a setting on either end? Are there settings in the SB? Does it hibernate when not receiving signal? I’m to the point where I might swap nodes and see if I have a faulty one.
We just bought a house in December that was built in 91 that is wired very well with coax all over the place even the kitchen. MoCa saved the day for us! So easy and fast!
How much does it cost to buy a MoCa adapter and install it on each end, on each home run on your network? are these devices inexpensive?
here is a better idea. I used the installed coax cables in the walls as fish tape to pull the ethernet cables. Doing this worked out very well. it was very easy and cheap to do
That is precisely my thought and what I was planning on doing, fewer failure points too.
@J J the ones in my walls were stapled in using those nails in the shape of a U. it was loose enough for me to easily slide the coax and taped ethernet cable thru it. others might be different but all the ones I had would like this
Totally agree, that is the better answer for regular size homes, but large homes with coax can go horizontal and vertical multiple times making it difficult to pull and more likely to snag somewhere sealed tight with fire resistant caulk or fire blocks. This product completely negates that issue while also letting the user keep there non-moca tv connection completely open and usable.
Hopefully others aren’t unlucky like myself… installers stapled the coax inside the walls before the drywall was hung.
Perfect! 😂
Bro! It’s important to tell everyone that you log into your AT&T gateway and place it in BRIDGE mode, to ensure you allow your Deco system to fully take over.
Just turning off the wifi broadcasting won’t do ya any good. You’ll experience intermittent connectivity.
Double NAT galore
My DECO System issues IP's on a separate subnet than the AT&T Router, so I don't see any benefit in switching to Bridge mode. I am not having any issues and my internet speeds seem fine.
@@tekshield You're still in double NAT. It won't stop you, but it isn't ideal. Not best practice.
There are really two ways to tackle this. You can disable WIFI on the ATT router and then put your mesh units in access point mode. So they only do WiFi. That's fine. Or you can put it in bridge mode and have the Meshes do everything. The latter is ideal, but some ISPs are real arseholes about not seeing their router live.
@@rickrodriguez121 I should of updated this, I went ahead a put into pass through mode!
I also have been using MoCA for over 10 years (Tivo User). The modem router supplied by Comcast/Xfinity has it built in, but I did have to get assistance to enable it. It works flawlessly with no technical setup. I do have a filter to stop the signal at the demarc and a signal booster as I have numerous cable connections and spliters.
Wish I would have known this 4 years ago
Make sure you check behind that coax wall plate. Make sure that fitting is good. Lots of homes with pre-wired coax have bad fittings (braid coming out the back of the fitting, dielectric suck out, excessively long center conductor, braid wrapped around the center conductor) I could go on and on. These fittings were most likely installed by the builder, and they just don't have the experience with attaching compression style fittings.
And...whats going to happen with a bad fitting exactly?
I have fiber run to my house but no ethernet to the rooms. So I used the existing coax with moca 2.5gb adapters, ran the fiber ONT into the moca and then from moca back to ethernet into a pfsense router. Using that existing coax that was doing nothing to avoid running ethernet and destroying some walls. It works!
I too have Ethernet running throughout my house from a communications ingress in my first floor closet. Used a MoCa device to hardwire my office that didn’t have a network drop. Very easy to do.
I dumped my cable TV (keeping ethernet) and then used MoCA adapters with ROKU across my internal coax cables. Works great throughout the house and saved myself $130/mo. Just needed the correct filter where the main coax comes into the house.
Very helpful information, indeed! We have coax cables running to practically every room in our home. Our current setup with Spectrum cable internet is that the internet cable enters our home in the utility room in the farthest north corner of our basement. From there, there is a dedicated coax cable running to my office in the farthest south corner of the basement where we have our WiFi router to send a wireless signal to the entire house (5,000 square feet). We then have a WiFi extender on the main floor somewhat close to the location of the WiFi router in the basement. This has been working pretty well for the most part to get a signal to the basement rooms, the Roku in the master bedroom and kitchen on the main floor and outside in the back yard. I like the idea of using the existing coax cables to increase the signal to other parts of our home. Until recently, our only option for internet service has been Spectrum cable. AT&T Fiber is now available to our home. We scheduled an appointment to have someone come to our home and get us connected but, we were not happy with how they were going to install it. Simply drill a hole straight through the wall (from the inside to the outside) in my basement office which would have been about six feet above the floor. We said, "Absolutely not!". We are going to ask an AT&T rep to come back out so we can discuss in more detail how they are going to get the line from the node to our home, where it needs to enter our home, what will be on the outside, where it needs to enter our home on the inside, what requirements are needed near the inside entry point (electrical outlet, etc.) so we can ensure proper installation. We were not impressed with that initial visit. The main thing is this video opened my eyes to more possibilities and things to consider before we make a change in our internet provider. So, I thank you for sharing this with us!
Do it yourself or hire a pro
For ppl who cant figure out their coax, they sell a simple toner at Lowes or Home depot. If you're using a cable company, you will need a mocha filter at the demarc, outside hookup, to prevent mocha from getting in the mainline.
I've been using the gocoax moca 2.5 adapters since last summer to get a wired connection into my home theater and it's been great. Just a heads up though that it wasn't completely plug and play in my house. Initially I was only getting about 90 Mbps through it. It ended up being due to 2 issues. One was I have a loose connection on one of my wall plates. The other was due to the cheap splitters that Cox or DTV (not sure who last touched before I moved in) used. Once I redid those connections I'm benchmarking over 900 on my gig connection now. I should fixed the wiring now to the far end of the house to put another node there with an AP to give a stronger connection to my cameras.
After spending thousands of dollars on different routers and Mesh systems over the years, I found this to be a great and fast solution. I used the one with the 2.5Gb ethernet jack and it served as a good backhaul for my Mesh system. Last week my internet provider marked the ground for fibre optic installation. They offer 8Gb internet speeds. I called my electrician and had the whole house done properly with Cat 8 Cables with ethernet jack outlets. Also, I upgraded my Wifi Mesh and purchased 2 Asus AXE 16000 (it has 2 10Gbe ports) routers. Finally, I bought a bunch of 10Gb switches to finish up this setup.
The MOCA setup is definitely great for those who need convenience and do not require more than 2.5Gb network speeds.
I just did this in my home. I had to use 4 of these devices because not everything ran through the basement hub, but it worked well, and all devices are at (or close to) the max speed that I pay for through my provider
One tip: Since the deco xe75 pro has three ethernet ports, you can use the 3rd port on your main router to go straight to the moca adapter. I have it setup this way for one less hop to the nodes.
Yeah have been using MOCA for 7-8 years now. It's the backhaul of my mesh wifi network. Most streaming apps work a lot better over a wired connection and MOCA fits the need.
Just a heads up, new high split implementation from Spectrum and Comcast will disable this feature. They will utilize the higher frequencies from MOCA
Exactly
Great concept. I never thought about reusing my old coaxial connectors this way. 👍🏽
I did this on my house using Moca adapters and google wifi points to do the back haul. Works great!!
I want to run the reverse… will it work? I’m trying to use my Ethernet wired how to carry a coaxial video signal and also a coaxial data signal? Want to be able to have a cable box but only have cat 6 cable runs.
I use my ISP-provided modem/wifi router and an additional ISP-provided Plume pod to extend my WiFi.
I use the 2.5 screen beam adapters to utilize one of my coax runs as an Ethernet backhaul. Works like a charm.
As for the TP-Link Deco Mesh systems, in my experience they are a great bang for the buck. I typically deploy the P9 3 pack (when peak speeds are not required and stability and reliability are higher priorities) due to its use of powerline networking+wifi or ethernet+wifi combined backhaul for homes with walls that impede wireless (structural walls tend to do this, washrooms with a wire mesh in the floor to support tile, etc.) or where there are no electrical outlets available in the ideal locations for each AP (which I find common in homes here). Unfortunately the P9 is EoL and it's replacement the PX50 appears to be US only (TP-Link Canada told me they have no plans to bring it to Canada). I would love a hybrid mesh kit that supports max WiFi 6/6E speeds, ethernet backhaul, MoCA 2.5/3.0 backhaul, and Powerline AV2 2000 backhaul, that would be the mesh kit I'd provide clients without even considering anything else other than Uniquiti UniFi (which of course would be more expensive)
Very nice
I'll second all of that. I'm a professional IT consultant, and the P9 3-pack has been my go-to mesh kit for the last couple of years. I've worked with all the other major manufacturers' mesh kits, and they all require multiple attempts to get access points online, and then, after the mesh is up, I've often gotten called back when access points fall offline. None of the TP-Link kits I've deployed win speed competitions, but they have yet to generate an unhappy client. They set up like clockwork, usually on the first attempt, and they usually stay up until someone unplugs an access point or the power fails.
@@mar4kl Yeah, the P9 3 pack is great! I used it in a client's home, it's a split-level home with a thick load bearing wall in the middle of the home with no wifi and the home was likely built in the '60s, not sure when the basement was done, '90s or '00s probably, so a mix of older and newer electrical. Could not get a wifi signal from the upper levels to the basement with any normal router or mesh system because of the wall and the available power outlets for 2nd floor were not ideal from a wifi perspective. The P9 solved this problem perfectly, older electrical wiring, bad power outlet locations, thick wall and all! As long as the customer doesn't mind not having peak performance and prefers reliability and stability, then this kit makes for a happy customer!
I've used Linksys Velops successfully too and heard good things about Netgear Orbis (mind you, not really a mesh system, but close enough), but despite the lower price points and supposed lack of features (tri-band with dedicated 5GHz backhaul, etc.), the Decos punch above their weight class! Just too bad the P9 is EOL and the replacement PX50 isn't expected to come to Canada. We need more hybrid powerline mesh kits.
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What is sad, sad person you are. I truly feel bad for you.
Back in the day, ethernet was run using Coax, so no surprise there. 🙂 The bummer is that we only have three Coax connections in our house, and mostly in the wrong areas for something like this. When we built the house 25+ years ago, we had ethernet put in ... unfortunately for nowdays, all Cat 5. Worked great for many years ... initially ran off a 10 Mbps hub ... but now it restricts anyone on the network (I connect directly to the Router, but no one else can) to about 80 Mbps. I've been thinking about adding Mesh to make my wife happier.
Really so. Ethernet started with thick-coax, then come thin-coax with BNC-connectors, both with tapped connections in the middle, then come AT&T_Systimax + RJ-45 with start shaped cabling, now Systimax is called Cat-cable.
You can have one MOCA at modem feeding more than one MOCA thru-out the home. They are great to use.
I used MoCA adapters to put wifi into a 15000 sq house a few years ago. They had home run coax to each room. Ended up installing 7 wifi routers to cover the entire home. I used software to see signal strength and moved things around as needed. They had barely any coverage to full coverage. One room on the east end had a 3 foot thick wall of brick and stone from an old expansion.
The other part is I had to HIDE the routers....
Why did you use routers everywhere?
@@DriveCarToBar I think the idea is that it adds wifi wireless signal strength to all sides of the home. Acts like a mesh system but better, along with extra ethernet plugins for each router. I'm thinking of doing the same but with 2 routers or maybe 3.
@@THANOS_Disciple Don't use routers. Use wireless access points.
If need be, put a PoE switch in to run the AP and give you the extra network port you need. There are also access points that will give you an additional LAN port on-board. Unifi and Ruckus both come to mind. Even the TP Link Deco Mesh units give you an additional port.
15000sqft house?😮 Well done
@@DriveCarToBar I dodn't have much of a choice but to use wireless routers. This was several years ago when ACs were crap. Also, i could not use PoE. There was no direct ethernet. I ended up having to create a moca network for everything.
Can you use a 4 to 1 coax splitter at the router? I have 4 coax cable runs and it seems like a lot of clutter at the modem.
LUCKY YOU to have all your coax cables neatly organized into the box…I have ONE coax cable that works in the entire house so I need to go underneath and try to figure out how I can drag it to the other side of the house and up into the wall to move my internet setup…nice.
I’ve been told “MoCA is the home run”. It is amazingly fast. I’ve also found homes that have CAT 5 run for the home phone which nobody uses anymore. That is an easy conversion for hi-speed Wi-Fi.
I’ve seen videos where the installer uses the old telephone wire to pull the new CAT 5/6 wires through the walls and into the desired rooms.
@@adamr4198 That is one that I will keep in my back pocket. Thanks!
I'm getting 1GB over my Cat 5, not 5e, but Cat 5. Even had the ability to plug in some POE Unifi inwalls without issue to the regular cat 5, and it works great.
@@adamr4198 That’s what I’ve been doing for several years, I wired every “phone jack” (PSTN?) in my house, to be used strictly used for internet data, it’s nice to have Ethernet connections all over the house…..it just sucks that all these “smart devices” only run on wifi.
I’m looking to bypass this crap modem/router (moto BGW210) that AT&T uses for my 1g fiber internet, the WiFi signal blows!
I’m thinking I can get by with 2 mesh devices…..any thoughts?
Cat 5 isn't for home phone
MoCA 3.0 is supposed to start shipping pretty much any time now. It's rated at 10Gbps. If you're looking at getting into MoCA and can wait a bit longer, it's probably worth it to wait until later this year / early next year for the massive speed boost of the new version.
Moca 3.0 is very out dated we’ve been using moca 3.1 for years
@@devonsykes2598 - Huh??? Can you point me to a shipping MoCA 3.0 or 3.1 adapter currently on the market? The MoCA 3.0 specs were released in 2018, with the first commercial chips expected to start being available to product manufacturers in late 2022 / early 2023. Once the chips are available, then companies will probably take a couple months to ramp up production of products and put them on the market.
There's literally no MoCA 3.1 spec even on the MoCA alliance roadmap, let alone shipping product (which is usually several years after a spec is released).
Maybe you're confusing MoCA with HomePNA 3.1? But, HomePNA 3.1 has a maximum speed of 320Mbps, where MoCA 2.5 has a maximum speed of 2.5Gbps and MoCA 3.0 has a maximum speed of 10Gbps.
@@someoneoncesaid6978 no lol moca 3.0 has been homes for years. I’m a cable technician…. I instal moca 3.1 modems on the daily. Very little people still use dated 3.0 modems
@@someoneoncesaid6978 hitron makes a moca 3.1 so does airis and sagecom… I install multiple a day
@@someoneoncesaid6978 it’s impossible to achieve more than a GB of speed in a coax line anyways. Fiber yes coax is limited. Like I said search up sagecoms wifi 6 or hitron 3.1 moca it’s like a tall box Bassicly
What I have is a MoCA block installed in the ceiling of my basement. So, basically it allows you to pump in the signal from the screenbeam then it sends the ethernet signal out through all of the coaxial terminations in your home simultaneously. So, same thing as you have here except instead of plugging the screebeam into one coaxial, you tie it into the coaxial MoCA splitter block.
Thanks for the video! I'm in the process of doing this at my house. Have lots of coax, but few Ethernet ports. Mesh system is okay, but loses a lot going through walls, so I want to hardwire the satellites. Router is near a coax, so gotta MOCA that, reroute the coax splitter, then adapt one of those cables to feed the Ethernet switch I added. It's never simple, lol.
Kinda sad to see how much signal loss you still get, but it's at least a good improvement over what you had. 🤷🏻♂️
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but it is a good idea to put a MoCA Point of Entry filter on your cable inlet to avoid having your network go back up the cable line outside of your house.
This!!!
lol, that's too advanced for this UA-camr. Don't worry, just send all your network traffic to your entire town by doing the method shown in this video. UA-cam is great, but sometimes in this example, it's really not. Perhaps the UA-camr might take a intro to networking class first.
@@slkfjariao Looked to me he only hooked to individual panel to room lines, not a splitter
I have a single ActionTec MoCA adapter connected to my router. This allowed me to get rid of the Verizon FiOS router which also acted as a MoCA adapter for the 3 cable boxes while still allowing for on demand and interactive content. Works wonderfully.
I see that you covered the RJ-45 CAT5/5E/6 jack with tape, are you planning to replace your existing network cable with MoCA? Unless your cabling is older CAT5 (most CAT5 made in the last 10 years is probably actually CAT5E even if no5 rated as such), then I would not use MoCA as a replacement, only in addition to. My recommended hierarchy of different LAN connectivity is as follows:
1) Fibre (only if money is not really a concern)
2) CAT5E/6/6A
3) MoCA 2.5 (or soon 3.0, but. MoCA adapters can get expensive, at least here in Canada)
4) MoCA 1.0/2.0 (only if 2.5 is not available to you)
5) Powerline networking (preferably the AV2 2000 spec for close to full duplex gigabit speeds, no experience with the latest Gh.n standard from Europe that is used by TP-Link in their latest hybrid powerline mesh wifi system PX50, which unfortuantly wont come to Canada apparently)
6) WiFi (unless mobility is required or not supported, such as new Roku and most smart home devices (don't even get me started in the lack of wired options for smart home devices) WiFi is lowest priority for me.
I tell customers all the time wired is ALWAYS superior to wireless, unless mobility is required, most are baffled by this and don't seem to understand. Oh the power of marketing.
This is how I have my home network set up. Even have the non-pro XE75. Love it, rock solid wifi signal in every corner of the house.
I wish I had seen this six months ago when I set up my vacation home with extra mesh routers that I probably didn't need. Great info thank you. I will now go back and do it right.
If you place your mesh waypoints within a proper range from the main hub and the device supports wifi 6E it should always fluctuate between 700 - 900 mb/s wirelessly .
Steve I’m getting ready to wire up my villa after watching your videos. I ordered my pieces needed and get started tomorrow. Fingers crossed! 👍
My biggest issue so far with ATT Fiber is, they installed the router in my Garage. I am concerned that heat will negatively impact the router come summer time. I may have to consider investing in having a Fiber drop installed from the Entry point of the house to the Wiring closet.
You will be fine unless the temp go over 60+° C in your garage.
@@IwCk Thanks, that is also what AT&T told me, so for now I will just monitor it. Thank you!
It'll be fine, really.
Since my router using the coax cable in the gameroom would I use a coax splitter? One side is router other side is the ScreenBeam device? Then I plug in the other ScreenBeam where I want the connect to go?
Does it work with a loop?
I log into my ISPs modem/router and turn off the wifi and put it into NAT Bridge mode. Now it only works as a Modem. Then I use my own business class router to manage the Clients in my home. WiFi access points, TVs, Computers, Phones and large Security Camera system are all managed much easier with your own Router and APs.
So the first you conntext to your modem and the other one you connect to your router?
Also, what if you dont know what what coax goes to said room?
As a fiber optic installer sending 2gigs over moca 2.5... yeah it works good 👍
You don't even need the gateway installed. You can remove it completely. The internet is actually coming from the smaller coax box called ONT
Hi, is there a way to convert the coax wall port to a analog line? My builder put coax cables throughout my house and in my office I have no telephone line port for my fax machine but 2 coax ports.
What if your cable comes into a gang connection? Can I still do this?
Been using moca for years now and twice I had a problem with a malfunctioning action tech causing issues and disconnects with the rest of my system. Went through 2 expensive routers last time before unplugging the actiontec and the router worked flawlessly after that. New screenbeam and all is well.
Great vid. I have fiber to the home that connects in my basement. From the switch I use a straight run coax leftover from an old dish system (via goCoax adapters) to my eero Wi-Fi router upstairs: 500 Mbps up/down.
I found out about MoCA, because my cable company uses it to network our DVR devices. I have been using MoCA devices for a few years now. It is such a great sollution.
Your can just add a MoCA adapter with WiFi and in my experience it's superior to MESH WiFi.
FINALLY an easy solution to my back haul problem. Thank you! Subscribed
Nice video. I do mostly like what you have to say in the video, however, one thing you don't mention that I think might have been important to mention is that the MoCA2 adapters are quite expensive! I saw your video recently. The house I'm currently living in has ethernet cable that runs along the outside of the house and enters through the wall and into the bedroom (I don't know why it was done like that, but that is how it was when we moved in). The ethernet cable goes from my room, which is on the top floor, just over top of the garage, and runs down to my brother's room which is downstairs near the back yard. His room was sharing the ethernet connection from my room as my room as the modem provided by our internet provider. Recently the ethernet cord seems to have died. When I snip the end off the ethernet cord in my brother's room (about 3 or 4 inches off), I noticed the wiring is NOT healthy looking. It looked cracked and the wiring looked quite oxidized, which is what I think is causing his internet issues. I would love to be able to use the MoCA2 adapter as we both have cable outlets in our rooms and that would have worked perfectly, but a little over $300 is a tough pill to swallow. Instead, I'm going to have to buy ethernet cable, attach an outlet onto both his wall and my wall and rerun fresh cable through and attach the cable to the outlet I attach, this way should the cable fail at some point, it will be much easier to replace as I just unattach the cable and attach a new one. This will cost me about $80 (and time). The most expensive part of that whole ordeal will be the ethernet cable, which in my case I'll need probably 50 to 75ft of cable. I'll have to do some measurements to find out for sure how much, but it is much cheaper. I just WISH your method COULD be done at an affordable price-point as I agree the coaxial cable WOULD be much better!
Couple years ago i was looking for this option but there werent many options so now i know its viable. Thanks for this video.
I have frontier internet in southern California and the mocha adapters that they install in my house Would fail regularly and they actually sent a tech out to disable them all. I hope these will work better
Hey Steve! Can you do the same with the Powerline adapters? I.e. use them to connect two parts of the mesh system?
Just installed a set of screen beams in a 100+ year old house with virtually no access to pull new cat 6 cabling! Saved me so much work of trying to pull cabling! Of course the coax wasn’t labeled so it was the last coax cable I tried out of 4 that connected to an old 3 way switch!
What do you need the splitter for? Also, if I have a current mesh system and i want to plug a few of them in by ethernet through coax, will they still function properly like a mesh system or will they behave like independant access points?
27 years ago, when I had my house built, I had the builder wire each room with 2 coaxial cables and 2 phone lines! I was going to use the second coaxial cable to send video through out the house from my laserdisc player and 3 years later my TiVo. After a few years I wanted to network my 2 desktop computers and I didn’t want to hassle of running cat5 cables through my walls, so I repurposed the coax to network the computers. It worked well for years until WiFi came out .
Thank you. I didn’t know this was possible. I am faced with the same situation trying to set up a backhaul for my mesh system. This was great help… thanks 🙏🏽
If im just trying to get a Ethernet in my PC room that has a coax outlet, will one work?
Question: Why use a switch and the deco in the first room at all? Can't you just plug the screenbeam from the cable Modem into the screenbeam directly? Or why plug the Deco into a switch then into the Screenbeam?
Concern: I have a new Amplifi Alien mesh router and wanted to use this as my new primary router in the house for the fastest possible WIFI. My issue is that all the coax cables have direct internet access from ISP, but I cant just plug in the screenbeam as a coax to ethernet adapter.
SO in one room, I have a coax line split to the screenbeam and my coax router. In the next room, I have a second screenbeam taking the signal and translating it to ethernet for the Amplifi router.. except the Amplifi router cannot put off a new WIFI signal from this. I can test download speed from it via onboard touch screen, and the ethernet cable works from Amplifi to other device.. but I am unable to even identify a WIFI network signal from the Amplifi at all.
at 7:27 when you're pluggin the coax in, what is the other side connected to? I'm a bit lost at this point unless you have another adapter for the other end.
In most homes, your cable ISP comes into a small box, usually on either side of your home. In this box, is the main line from the cable provider comes in from the street. There's a splitter that sends that signal from the cable company to the various coax lines in your home. In short, that cable you're mentioning ends up in that junction box. You don't necessarily need to worry about it unless that cable is unplugged at the junction box.
@@JJFlores197 got it. Thank you.
What about if your modem is conmected through a coax do you need to screenbeam adapters for it to work?? Thank you inadvance
If speed is under 100mbps then the deco system from DirecTv can also work. Dirt cheap on eBay too
Question, cable connections are throughout my house. One of them is used to connect to my cable Modem, which is connected to my wifi Orbi router. Can I use a cable splitter and use the same cable outlet that feeds my modem to the screenbeam device to connect to my wifi Router? Will the signal piggyback on the cable to send to a cable jack elsewhere in the house? I have a spot that needs a stronger signal than my mesh system will deliver.
So my question is if my router that my provider installed is already using coax can i use one screen beam in my room or would i need to run one at the router and one in my room?
Question,. Can I bypass using another router and still use my modem with wifi capabilities to use the mesh wifi with an attachment via coax? I would love to install a mesh node in another part of the house, but not need another router middle manning the modem and mesh system.
Thankfully I was able to "drop" all category 5 etc. into the basement below. All the RG6 from cable is now running antenna signal.
Steve, i have a larger mid 90s home that has a split design. Could i put the coax converter in a central location and use a splitter and put 2 out on each side of the house for total 3 devices, or do i need four? 2 for each line? does that make sense?
Quick follow up on this. 1st off, thanks for posting! 2nd, he's my current set up. Cable provider comes into house on the COAX. I then have to go from COAX to my modem and wireless router. So that's the set up I currently have and I want to come off the COAX in two rooms straight to ethernet. Is one of these sufficient in each room to achieve this goal? Plain and simple, I want to take my son's gaming computer OFF the Wireless and get him wired to the network directly. Appreciate the feedback!
So, I'm trying to figure out how this sort of system works. Would I just be able to plug the transmitter into any coax outlet and the receiver in any other coax outlet and have it work? Or will the cable splitting off into different areas and whatnot cause issue?
Pretty much. The main unit needs to be plugged in close to where your router is. You plug an ethernet cable into the main unit and then plug that unit into the coax port. You then plug in the secondary unit in the room where you need a connection and that has a coax cable. You plug an ethernet cable from that unit into your computer or network switch or other device.
Is that a deco i see? If you’re thinking to get one then please please please consider your usage carefully. Tplink deco have no fixed ethernet port. If your wan goes down then any lan connected to main hub will go down because it’s searching for wan on all available port. It sucks and Tplink doesn’t seem to want to fix it anytime soon
I love this I’ve never thought about using moca for these type up setups. Great video. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Quick question. If you have a cable modem then how do you have an internet connection when the coaxial cable is not connected to your modem. Where is the connection coming from for the internet to your modem. I like this idea I’m just trying to figure out how that part works.
I have a nightowl NVR SYSTEM that requires power over eithernet. Do you think this conversion eithernet to coax to eithernet will power cameras?
I’m glad I came across your videos!! Learning something new everyday !!
If I plan to run a deco mesh system with 2 satellites, do I need to do anything to my existing coax cable network? Or just put a Moca adapter at each router? FYI, all my wall jacks run to a splitter in the attic. I don't have any services currently running on this system.
My equipment has a modem and a router provided by spectrum. How do I connect the moca to that setup? I just want to use it to enhance the wifi connection with a wifi mesh.
In my target room, do i need an extra router to plug in the moca? or can i just plug a lan cable straight from my computer to moca?
Something additional you should mention is once everything is connected, unplug and reboot all equipment and those speeds should be even better once everything has been reset.
Does my heart good to see you running Netgear routers and switches...
Have a coax outside. No power outlet. Is there a Moca adapter that I can use a PoC?
I've been using the screenbeam for a while now, it's better overall to just try to install ethernet anyways using the existing coax routes but if you are renting this is just fine. could vary depending on if you have cable tv or not despite them being on different frequencies
Thank you for the video. But I do not agree this is a solution, If your particular home they ran all the cables to one spot. Most cables installers from providers will run the cables to the outside of the home or garage depending on the setting and from there they will use a splitter. I want to say 80% of homes you will find this. You will have to reroute and rewire the Coax cable, might as well use CAT 6. You got lucky the cables were ran that way in your case.
Can you have a regular router and a mesh system or will they conflict and cause issues?
Great video. I have the same set up as you except my extender is Eero. My cable modem is in the basement. I was able to find the coax to my office which is upstairs. I can see on the Eero app that it is wired to the right room. Unfortunately it is only modestly boosting the speed. I don't think the connections are off so I am trying to figure out why there is no appreciable increase. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hello I was wondering if I did ONT Coaxial Cable > MOCA Adapter > WAN port of my router would work?
Tech novice here... can you plug the Screen Beam ethernet out directly into your computer (i.e., bypass WiFi altogether)?
The biggest thing is be careful that one of your cable or satellite boxes are not already using MoCa. Whole home DVRs often use MoCa. I used MoCa to network 2 TiVos and it was the way to go.
Too many variables here as pointed out in the comments... You are counting on a) properly installed RG6 or 59 cabling that has not degraded or has cracked shielding, b) properly installed RG6 or 59 fittings (many installers do NOT do a good job on this part, resulting in signal loss), c) you are now introducing 2 devices that are probably made with substandard electronics powered by electrical power, meaning one or both could be faulty at any given moment, d) now, you also need 2 ethernet cables, one at each end, which is also subject to failures or degradation of signal. For about the cost of these devices, you could simply have RJ 45 run through to the den area with a couple keystone jacks and get rid of ALL the electronics in between. Another solution is use a PoE switch and use Ruckus or some PoE capable wifi mesh device that eliminates the need for power at the AP. There are a lot of ways to skin this cat; I see the value in using coax ONLY if the RJ45 is out of spec to the switch (i.e., over 300 feet) or if there is heavy interference - certainly cheaper than fiber run (this is a home setup). Just my opinion.. do it once and do it right with a proper RJ run to the needed area.
Can u get hard wire Ethernet internet in hotel rooms
Currently I have a second router plugged into my main router, so that way I have an upstairs and downstairs network. Is there anyway I could set the second router to work as an extender rather than making it’s own double NAT network?
Is your 2nd router providing wifi coverage upstairs? If so, see if it has an access point mode. I think most modern routers have this. When you enable it, it disables all routing functionality and just acts as a wifi access point.
If it isn't being used for wifi and you need wired connections, it makes more sense to install a network switch instead of a second router.
the problem is with a modern home network structure, you likely want all the cable to go back to one location inside your house like a closet or a wall panel somewhere. Mine on the other hand all goes back outside where the main line from my provider comes into the house outside my garage. I don't want my network rack in my garage. Where I live is SUPER warm and humid and electronics will not do well out there. The best place would be an unused closet on the complete opposite end of the house, so I cant even use the old coax cable to fish through new Ethernet cable and even if I could, most builders clamp or nail cable to the framing of the house instead of being sensible and using conduit.