Where did Miami go wrong? College GameDay reacts to the downfall of the Hurricanes’ football program
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2021
- The College GameDay crew breaks down the recent downfall of the University of Miami's football program and what they have to do to rebuild for a successful program and future.
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Herbstreit did more in a few seconds to change the trajectory of UM football than the administration did in 2 decades. God bless him!!
For real though!
The administration likes the team right where it's at, they could care less about football and don't like the attention. Fact
I mean it’s amazing they had to get called out just to even look like they cared.
@@daddyio33 yep it sure is, I still don't believe they give a shyt but we'll see
@@Hugeroost word on the street says Diaz is being retained. That will say a lot. However that said, we need to clear some of these buyouts we are still paying. Are we still paying Shannon and Golden?
Thank you Kirk 🙏🏾
For real. Kirk should be owed a statue
Basketball program suffering as well
Kirk knows Miami is box office and the Canes being good is great for college football.
Strong Notre Dame is also good for football.
Michigan too.
“We weren’t individuals. We were truly a team.” Ed Reed.
Yeah but that's today's football sad to say.
@@adrianlm72 Yep the game has radically changed now especially with players being able to earn money on their likeness with all the NIL stuff. I love Reed and all those guys but you can't be stuck in the past!
They really miss miami 😪 dominating schools..every since that scandal it's been tough to really bounce back ..and that homegrown talent going elsewhere
Same thing with USC. When those are good football is good.
@@brodeebell7002 that's y the sec winning every other year bcuz schools like Miami usc and Nebraska not doing what they do dominant..now they are steering recruiters to the sec think about it the sec was not doing none of that like this when those schools on top
Well, it’s that other thing that “homegrown talent” does in addition to football that makes them so undesirable.
How many of this homegrown talent have arrest records?
@@NoahBodze Georgia and Florida have most those guys.
scandal?
I attended U of Miami from 1986 to 1991. I attended every home football game in the old Orange bowl and never saw them lose a home game. Never lost!. In that same period I saw them win Three (3) National championships. Thats how good we were!
Wish I was around for those times.
“We like THE U in the 80s” -Snoop Dogg
Kirk has secretly always had a special place in his heart for “The U”
Kirk, U fans thank you. How just a few minutes of you shining a light has really got the ball rolling.
Ed Reed has to realize that the formula that Miami had in the 80's and 90's is gone. UM was unique in that the local stars decided to get together on their own to build a powerhouse in their own backyard. It really wasn't the case of genius recruiting on the part of the school or its coaches. Those players owned it all; both the risks, and the rewards. How can you cultivate that sort of thing again?
You don’t. You simply get an elite coach who can keep the elite talent in Florida at Miami while using transfer portal to bring in elite talent from across the country. Cristobal can’t do this but Urban Meyer could.
He did hesitate! He only changed the line up after the threat of being fired was all too real. C'mon Dez
And injuries
Kirk… THANK YOU!! UM’s Mount Rushmore has a place reserved for you. We all appreciate you.
How many arrests are on that Mount Rushmore at the u? Ok. That's tough - we have to narrow the criteria.
How about how many domestic violence arrests are there on the u's Mount Rushmore?
Ballpark it.
@@NoahBodze interestingly enough, University of Miami has always had among the lowest arrest rates and highest graduation rates. Miami’s rep as a team full of criminals was a falsehood based on racist undertones.
@@1mgofepinephrine120 Brian Pata ring a bell?
@@billclark8241 you’re characterizing thousands of people based on 1 person’s alleged actions? What a simpleton!! Do you also consider UF players to be thugs because of Aaron Hernandez…An actual convicted serial killer? Of course not.
You don’t like Miami “thugs” because the program was much better than yours for a time, and your racist.
@@NoahBodze You can probably find more criminal activity between both Florida and FSU than Miami, the canes got a bad rep back in the 80s and it stuck ever since. In reality, all they did was churn out pro-bowler after pro-bowler for a few decades, and the program got demolished by sanctions after Butch Davis left.
Kirk is a true fan of the game. When he sees that a program could and should do better he will call them out. All his criticisms of Miami have been more then fair, extremely necessary and very welcoming to Miami fans. His comments did more to move the program forward than the past 3 years of Miami play combined. Thank you Kirk
Thank you Kirk! Go Canes!!!
I definitely got love for Herbstriet. I know he's an Ohio State guy, but he's always been a big advocate for The U.
Kirk loves The U. I love Kirk. Fire Manny. Bye bye. It’s not the recruiting. It’s the game day decisions that are his fault. Let’s get a banger in Miami and start making moves for W’s
Bullseye 🎯 I agree
A "banger" in Miami?
There's a lot of "bangers" in Miami, huh?
I heard some of them can run very fast when they're carrying other people's things under their arms. Oh, and some of them play football, too!
coaching is part. recruiting is part. its more than that as highlighted in this clip and by Herbstreit
ALL you got in Mario is a great recruiter! He's a HORRIBLE in game coach!!! Careful what you wish for! I think Oregon dodged a bullet with him leaving, with the amount of talent he brought in, he sure didn't do much with them!
@@dakotatez5171 Coker wasn't a coach either, the players called the shots. Miami is all about recruiting and keeping local kids home.
The University of Miami will never get back to the way it was. How many of those players stay in Miami, plus it's a small private University. That amount of talent they had at that small private school was once in a lifetime. 🙌
Wonderful 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌👀
Thank you 🙏 Kirk H we are sick as Miami fans Manny needs to go plain and simple. Manny plays the wrong players as fans we was screaming to play the more talented young guys and it took injuries to play them and we started winning no way you can keep a coach that FANS FREAKING KNOW BETTER
Better Athletic Director & Better Coach!
Its a shame that real estate so expensive in south Florida, because I think a small, 20-40 thousand ON CAMPUS stadium would be a huge difference.
Remember the time kirk get everybody fired at the U . Thank you bro for stating the obvious let's go Canes
"I ran for 347 yards against FSU the year I won the Heisman Trophy while at the U"
- Brian Steltzer, CNN
😆😆😆
Y’all need to thank footballville but y’all not ready for that conversation for Obvious Reasons shout out to X and D Streeter
Exactly. X and Streeter is who I got to for my Canes info. Those dudes are the real plugs.
And what about Miami FLO he has been calling all of this for almost 2 months but nobody gives him credit
Didn’t have to watch the video to know. You got the answer in the thumbnail
Recruiting out of state getting blue chippers from Idaho
No fans and no stadium near campus.
Miami went wrong the second they hired diaz is where they went wrong
Miami was trending during the 80s the heat
Freshman are playing because upperclassmen were injured. Otherwise it’s been seniority over performance and potential.
Recruiting... recruiting... and recruiting
Miami will NEVER get back to that 90s-2000s era if they don’t keep in-state talent HOME. Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, and Clemson have religiously pulled kids from our own front yard.
Scheduling bama for first game of season is a big no no
Anyone find it odd that the three top programs in Florida are failing in a state with that talent?
God Idk who was worse Golden or Diaz as the U head coach smh
Miami has to go back to Nike that’s a huge difference
Go Noles!!
They don’t call it the “death penalty “ for no reason lol
Tbh NCAA football is won in the recruiting . South Florida puts the most players in the NFL and UM isnt getting any of those players to the school. We need Money in the program asap ! And stop Thinking that these Kids are gonna want to come to the school solely based on things UM did 20- 30 years ago. BETTER FACILITIES A NEW MOTIVATION WILL BRING BETTER RECRUITMENT . U HAVE TO KEEP SOUTH FL PLAYERS IN SOUTH FL .
Imagine if Lamar Jackson, Amari cooper or Teddy Bridgewater went to UM . Bridgewater and cooper were on the same Highschool team in MIAMI !
All the best football players in high school come from Texas tho
This is the team that got off the bus in camo bc they were going to war. Teams were scared of miami bc they would thump u on the field, the parking lot, and leave w ur girl. They dripped swag, they walked different. That mindset has been missing for decades.
Hard to get Sr, Leadership when your elite players bounce after their sophmore and jr. years.
Facts
Yeah, they didn't have a 'transfer portal' back in those days either. Thankfully.
Props to Kirk for stepping up and saying those harsh and 💯 accurate words describing the Miami Hurricanes downfall throughout the 2 decades and very weird for him to say that considering that he’s a Ohio State alumni, but the main focus is that Kirk not only as a college football analyst but as a fan in general wants to see The U become relevant along with FSU, USC, Nebraska and I can possibly throw in Michigan but they’re having a good season this year.
It needed to be said.....time to blow it....
They need to bring ray lewis and Ed reed as head coaches
I don’t think The U will ever be back on top on a regular basis. This is all pipe dreams. They have been bad for longer than they were good. It was lightning in a bottle during the 80s and 90s.
Ty Kirk from a Miami alum.
Ed Reed
Miami's success was an aberration.
$20 to $30 million MORE. What a joke. We have our priorities totally backwards in education. Also the buckeyes put a death nail in the program in the 2002 Championship game. They hadn't been the same since!
I really don’t mean this with any kind of hate.... but Miami is never going to be truly great again until they have their own stadium. That is a MUST.
Rece and Herbstreit just gave a big kick in the as to The "U". They needed that. Let's go CANES!!!
One of the biggest problems Miami have is the players are going to other programs rather than do university of Miami. They are not the number one place that the top athletes in South Florida are going to now.
Miami should've brought back Butch when they had the chance. Manny is all talk, but he suuuuucks. This years defense could be the worst defense in the last 40 years, lol
It’s a lot it’s the school itself, the stadium, the administration, and coaching
Miami’s atmosphere might be one of the worse I’ve seen there are some d2 schools with a better atmosphere
Ever since this team lost to Florida International. I dont think this football program will ever be good again.
The focus went to chains and props instead of winning football .
That loss to FIU and the players were dancing around on the sidelines was what ended my support of manny
Miami needs Urban Meyer
Any miami graduates in a athletic dept out there.
The game of college football is better when Miami/Florida / FSU/Texas/ Michigan are good and competing!!
Kirk want us to be back so bad because he knows if we become the powerhouse we used to be it could be YEARS (decades) of Miami dominance again which will force every team out there to preform at a high level at all times because all the big names recruits will flock to Miami to the point we’ll be filled with only four and five stars and couldn’t even take them all. That’s what Kirk wants. That’s what college football needs. Is for the MIAMI HURRICANES to be THE TEAM TO BEAT.
FACTS!!!!💯
No, Miami is dead you just cant see it cause you are in love.
The good ole boys network won’t allow them to be back.
My main problems with Manny Diaz and this whole athletic department is accountability, player development, adaptability, failure to adjust, and weak leadership
IMO
What Miami is facing is what the NBA is facing the export of it's greatness. Plus more options for students athletes in the State of Florida. FAU, FIU, UCF, USF and & FAMU teams. Besides the big programs like Florida 🐊 Gators and FSU 🏹 🔥 🐎
Just like USC, Miami is in a big city with entertainment options. Too many fair weather fans. Also the university not investing in the program like the other schools do. With UCF going to the Big 12 in 2023, Miami might be even more screwed when it comes to recruiting.
Better call Prime. Look what he did in one year at Jack state
Coach Sabin said he wasn’t ready for a head coaching job
Why did it take so long to play the younger kids.
Kirk Herbstreit for NEW AD!!! 💯
Where did it go wrong, Miami has lost four to five games on a regular basis , since 2006
Now that everyone has been down on Miami not being what they once were -- anybody want to say anything about NEBRASKA, USC, TEXAS. Evidently the Canes are a team many love to hate. GO CANES!
Where did they go wrong?
When they moved out of the Orange Bowl and then gave the city the permission to demolish it. That's where.
I disagree with his firing. They are not in Alabama’s league so that loss should not hurt his evaluation.
They made too many excuses for Manny there. Doesn't matter how you recruit if you can't develop the players and prepare them for gameday. Manny has been terrible at that. He does stupid stuff like show up in a limo like he's cool and encourage players to be dancing while we're losing. Get this guy out of my face already.
I’m really glad ingot to see the canes from 1987-2002. Never will be done again.
Never say never.
FSU won two national championships during that time. They also have a more recent national championship than Miami. Florida State runs Miami.
Take Miami from 83-02 and FSU from 87-00. Miami in eight bowls to decide national title and FSU winning at least 10 games and finishing in the top 4!
@@MrMusclekid88 - Miami won FIVE to your two (technically was from 83-01 but u understand my point). 5 >> 2
Bear is disingenuous or he' doesn't have a clue. Typically I like Bear, but giving credit to Manny for making changes is grossly misguided. Manny made changes due to injuries and the outside pressures from Kirk. He has been playing guys that have no business starting over talented young guys and making excuses for starting them. He made changes to the defense from last year and they are worse than they were the year before with Manny running the defense. This year has been the worst tackling team in the country, but you want to give him credit for making changes on the defense... Really? You've out recruited every team in the ACC for the last 5 years other than Clemson and we're losing to likes of VA, GT, Duke, etc... in previous years. He's done less with more and deserves to be handed a pink slip.
What Manny was forced to put in the freshman due to injuries if not he would have kept in upper classman that weren't performing well
Kirk Herbstreit for AD
We love Herbie...
His first year his team had very good players. His OC was one Manny chose. Manny’s failure is all his. Manny was not ready to be head coach at a school like Miami. Should have let him go to Temple…
Thanks kirk beat players come from florida and go other places.. stay great coach will make them stay
Miami is back
Standards!!!
This is where they went wrong. The program has NEVER been the same since this devastating loss. 😆😆😆 Go Bucks!
U can’t look at stats and say manny deserves another year 😐
I was looking at the past HC's tenors and records for Miami and it wouldn't be unprecedented for Diaz to be fired. So, I don't know why the prospect is upsetting some. 🤷♂️
@@phuckyu3383 I was going back and forth with it. His decisions on utilizing all his talent and managing a game just made me say let’s move on. He don’t trust half his talent enough for me.
THANK THANK THANK KIRK you saved the U, they better drop you on the U part 3 the Rise to Glory
Kirk is a real one
When Jimmy Johnson left? 🤣🤣🤣
The problem is we have enough talent in the state of Fla to be a top 3 program. We don’t have to rely on the portal to be great. That’s why Manny has to go, our (Florida) kids don’t want to play for him🙌🏾💯
Good luck with winning with only Florida boys😂
No big boys in Florida.
@@talib1k787 All they need are a few Georgia, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi boys to go along with top Florida talent and they're good, as proven by the Bama, Clemson, UGA, etc.
Why do they not like Manny?
Correction.. The big boys are coming in with the bag to get our top talent.
I remember being on campus to buy a dozen tickets for my coworkers and their kids because of my passion for this team back in the early 2000s,This was for a game against Pitt Panthers and the great Larry Fitzgerald. I even saw Jon VIlma as a young kid walking on campus at that time and sending him prayers for the game and beyond. I missed that because people cared back then...I have lost that enthusiasm because the school administration has lost theirs for the past 20 years. The parents of current kids on the team get mad at the fans but they don't understand, it not the kids its the leaders, because we have live through the standards of greatness for this program. The results of mediocrity every year will wear the best of us down, we should at least challenge for the Coastal Conference every year.
The Canes have forgotten basic Pop Warner tackling methods, hit, wrap, and roll. They need to see how Ray Lewis tackles.
UM alumn here (2002). This is all on Frenk. Shalala did better..which is crazy. Blake James, good riddance. Happy and hopeful with the Mario Cristobal hire.
get better players and u come back, until they get that they wont win. They dont recruit at the clip that made them great. Its a different time now
Shout out to Footballville‼️ They've been calling this out far longer than Kirk. However, Kirk does have a larger platform.
Running the stupid RPO
FIRE MANNY
Regulations
There was just something about the canes and the orange bowl. Just no mystique or identity now
Win $1. Which array is Wake Forest currently indexing with yards passing per game?
A. 423
B. 750
C. 665
D. 543
E. 318
What is the random variable?
A. G
B. T
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Manny might have saved his job to be honest but they better find somebody on that staff that can recruit he can’t recruit South Florida like the great wise Corso said you can’t lose to FSU especially that FSU team
Every since we hot embarrassed by LSU in the Peach Bowl, it's been all down hill n to many downs than ups. But you cant have folks who don't care about athletics running the sports team
Stop commending Manny - Dude isn’t a HC - Never will be - He is a loser in big spot - Can’t win big games - Recruiting is terrible this year - Defense - His Unit is god awful
Butch Davis left for the Cleveland Brown coaching job after 2000, Larry Corker won games and a title with the talent Davis recruited.Butch was a Jimmy Johnson protege he coached like jimmy, speed and defense and good on special teams. larry,randy,al,mark,and manny just was not able out recruit the top SEC schools since Butch Davis left the school. Jimmy Johnson is not walking through that door( sorry) hurricane and cowboys fans. LET SEE what the future holds go CANES just win in the ACC.
Senior leadership is everything. Freshmen need to show up and have the fear of god in them when entering the locker room. I'm not talking hazing, but just being intimidated by the greatness of the upperclassmen. It's healthy for the young guys to see what greatness looks like. Looking for day 1 playing time is a huge mistake. If a freshman beats you out as a senior, that's a problem too.
Well said!