Why Miami is no longer a powerhouse program | College GameDay
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2021
- Why Miami is no longer a powerhouse program | College GameDay
Kirk Herbstreit cites various issues within the Miami athletic department as reasons why the Hurricanes haven’t been a relevant program since 2006.
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i've heard kirk speak about miami for over 10 years and believe he genuinely wants the team to do well, it's been frustrating for too long and he's spot-on with everything he's saying
Kirk loves Miami. Heart was in it 100%
He’s absolutely right, knocking down the orange bowl was horrible for the program.
They need to kick the Miami Marlins out or restructure the Ball Park to the Hurricanes and Marlins can benefit from it. Regardless of our record the Ball Park would bring in more revenue if the Hurricanes would play there.
@@alexbelizaire9769 yeah not a Miami fan myself but I agree I just don’t see the canes being the canes of the past until they get their own stadium and better revenue. It’s absolutely pathetic that a historic program is sharing a stadium with a NFL team that isn’t that nice 45 minutes from campus.
Kirk is right on point.
It shouldn't have taken this long 🤬
@@tracypendergrass9456 We're on the right track now
I miss The Orange Bowl Stadium because hard rock stadium is not the right stadium for the miami hurricanes football hard rock stadium is NFL stadium not college football stadium It's Time for a new stadium for hurricanes.
Kirk is On Point on The Miami Hurricanes Period
Miami hasn’t been a powerhouse since the early 2000’s
Pepperidge Farm can't even remember when they were a contender.
@@jamesfields2916 2003 and 2005 😔
@@jamesfields2916 - So stealing that! I swear it's unbelievable that people outside of Florida don't realize how many Floridians -- especially anyone under 30 -- don't remember when Miami was good, and how many people have shifted to Florida or UCF. The Stanford game in 2019 was a wake-up call for me ... how many people had finally sworn off Miami and joined the UCF or, again, Florida camps.
After 2004, we started to fall off
@@SladeTheHedgehog moving out Orange Bowl kind of killed the mystique. Man when Miami played a big time opponent there that place was rocking
Miami was down by 27 vs Alabama and they were celebrating with that dam turnover chain.
People are tired of the chain now.
The chain is tacky af.
Ugh.
We’ll the players are literally forced to wear them. Some weird contractual thing. It’s not the players wanting to dawn them at this point. Just part of the bad gimmicky culture this coach ing staff has created
@@adriankendrick4281 nope
Mia, FSU, Nebraska, USC are the 4 historic programs that's been a disappointment.
@Out Side at least ND is a top 25 mainstay, and made the playoff last year. Nowhere near as bad as those other programs.
Don't forget Tennessee with their 6 national titles and 8 unclaimed national titles.
USC is just a good coach away from being great again. They've had top 10 classes last 9 out of 10 years.
At least FSU won a National Championship in 2014 (2013 season) and have only been a recent disappointment. Miami has been nearly 2 decades!
@Out Side you're not a fan. Im not a fan of them and i dont agree with this.
Thank you SO much for this, Kirk. This is going to be the opening scene for The U pt3.
So this is what Cristobal was talking about hm...thanx kirk
Miami, Michigan, Texas, Nebraska, USC, FSU, oh how the mighty have fallen.
Texas showed glimpses
And in the case of Michigan, Texas, Nebraska, Tennessee, and FSU, smart people fired bad legendary coaches....which resulted in the mediocrity. Does FSU feel stupid for forcing, pushing, Jimbo Fisher out the door? What about Texas with Mack Brown? Greedy. All of you guys. If the team were 1-2 with Pete Carroll as coach of Miami you'd find something to complain about. Oh he's overrated. You B****** and moaned about Mark Richt....you get what you get.
@@jasonday7168 you’re very uninformed. Most fans love and appreciate richt. You’re leaving out the fact that richt was close to retiring before we hired him and began having health issues during his tenure as Miami’s coach. He wasn’t fired or driven away. He was ready to hang it up before we even hired him.
A whole fact!
@@mscooldeadly They havent been a top team since 2009. Every team shows “glimpses.”
Yeah they beat Georgia. How many NC’s does Georgia have in the past 20 years?
Hard to believe that from 83 to 02 Miami won 5 national titles and just missed 4 others in 86,92,00 and 02.
Best team in the country in 1990 as well, but a season opening road loss against Ty Detmer and BYU (28-21) left two-loss Miami out of the title hunt. Worked it's way back up to #4 by the bowl game, where it went on to wax #3 Texas 46-3 in the Cotton Bowl-while #1 Colorado survived #5 Notre Dame, 10-9 and #2 Georgia Tech beat #19 Nebraska in the Citrus Bowl-the Irish and Yellow Jackets splitting the championship; the Canes set to demolish either had they faced off.
@@Canes305 saw them play at Texas Tech that year the week after Notre Dame beat them.
@@Canes305 that 46-3 score wasn't even that close. Miami had more penalty yards than Texas had total yards.
Colorado split the NC with GT
Don't forget 1988 The Referees Helped Notre Dame just like they helped Ohio State win the Fiesta bowl in 2002
Miami USC and Florida St
I hope the Miami administration is sufficiently ashamed.
If you develop a culture of individual achievement over team goals you'll have problems. And it seems to be getting harder and harder to get players to buy into the concept of team. Those coaches who can create that type of culture will have GREAT success.
Thank you, Kirk! Less than 3 months later, and look how much is changing ❤️🙌🏻
The Former UGA Coach left there to rebuild His Alma Mater(MIA) & brought MIA back to the National seen. Only for MIA to hire Unqualified Coaches(the current). Pay for a COACH !
CMR didnt leave UGA for Miami. He was fired and later accepted the Miami job. He had a couple decent seasons and they ran him off.
@@mikeschmidt4800 Right had some health issues including Parkinson's.
Still on television so I guess it’s selective Parkinson’s 😑
@@slappingrock2397 just googled it. Diagnosed in July. The guy from Back to the Future has been milking Parkinson's for 25 years.
It's crazy how some of these powerhouse teams have fallen. Hopefully they'll rise again. I'm not really a fan of Miami, but it frustrates me to see how poorly they've been doing for so long. They need some type of spark. The players just don't seem hungry or passionate out there. Things can change for the better for these powerhouse programs. It's a slow process, but it can be done.
Kirk is right, the AD needs to be replaced, and the president also. They need to get a Stadium near the campus, and Desmond is also right, they have talent, but they haven't identified a legit QB in years. But also, you need a coaching staff that teaches the fundamentals correctly. Manny has failed in that aspect of coaching.
Still can't believe they tore down the Orange Bowl. That place was like a landmark of the 80's era.
@@mrderp1292 Before that in the Bob Griese era, I remember...
Kirk was the only riding with us know he's jumped off I can't be mad at him
he didn't jump off. He's just speaking the truth. He's alwas shown love and spoke well of the U
Could this be what Cristobal was talking about.?
Can put USC in the same category with FSU and Miami
And Michigan as well
No I don’t remember usc losing to Jacksonville State lol
These college programs need to stop resting on there laurels and stpp bringing up the past that thinking is LONG GONE in today's college football!
The athletic department is fine with the current team because when Miami was good bad things were happening off the field. The two things don’t have to be exclusive.
Kirk nailed it 1000 percent
No he didn’t
@@benmangrum8626 Yes, he did
@@yuriburkel686 As a Miami fan he sucks nothing he said made any sense
two of your biggest boosters are gone. Nevin Shapiro is in prison and Uncle Luke was told not to hang around the program
@@benmangrum8626 you aren’t a football fan if you don’t agree with Kirk!!
Alabama is getting the elite south Florida players, Derrick Henry, Julio Jones, Jerry Jeudy, Amari Cooper, etc. etc. Because they have a big name coach who puts a well coached team on the field. Miami's lack of good consistent coaching has made players iffy on staying in South Florida. Miami is always in these kids top 5 but ultimately choose a sure thing like Bama.
Derrick Henry is from the Jacksonville* area and Julio is from Alabama. The point you are trying to make though is accurate, kids in south Florida aren’t staying home, they just not all going to ‘Bama.
@@edguy8198 Henry is out of the Jacksonville area.
1. Julio Jones is from Mobile, AL
2. Contrary to popular belief, South Florida kids aren't actually growing up with dreams of playing for the U anymore. No sir. Maybe 5 years ago you could still say that, but not anymore. Every high school kid in America has grown up knowing only mediocrity and failure in Miami. From the time they were forming their first childhood impressions of college football between the ages of 5-8 years old, kids in South Florida have only ever known a repeating cycle of failure on the field, and intense disdain from the fanbase off of it.
In other words, HS recruits no longer think 5 national championships, 2 Heisman trophies, and a NFL pipeline when they hear the words "Miami Hurricanes". They only know a string of embarrassing loses, a revolving door of new head coaches, and a team that doesn't even have it's own stadium to play in.
I’m from south fla (ft Lauderdale) you’re right they have forgotten how to recruit in our own backyard and everyone else have found a gold mine doing it look at lemar Jackson(pompano beach ) !
All the Florida schools whiffed when it came to Lamar Jackson.
Thank you gameday , we now got Dan Radakovich, couldnt have done it without ya
Miami wasn't even a powerhouse program 10 years ago.
We were not as bad as we are now
Thanks Kirk!!!
When USC and Miami is back to play great again. Trust in believe that no team will not survive. Especially USC
As a Clemson and acc fan,I say the conference must do regional realignment! Local rivals make for more intense and exciting games....north vs. South is the way to go...no rivalries ,no interest
I see USC, Michigan and Florida State getting out of the hole 🕳 before Miami does and it’s sad ….
Worry about YOUR School which SUCKS at MIAMI and NOT Others. 🔥 that lame @$$ Coach. HE SUCKS !!!! And I'm A Seminole. No debate, it's Florida State !
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The AD decided grades were important
Even as a Notre Dame fan who despises Miami to its core, it stinks that Miami has been a sea of mediocrity for almost two decades.
They should have shut that cesspool down for good years ago.
They can’t say its Recruiting! All programs have down years ! Also I can’t wait for Saban to Retire! College coaches have a harder just with the transfer Portal and NIL! You won’t see coaches get fired so frequently in the Future!
The speech that helped Miami get Mario!
Ken Dorsey wasn’t even at Miami in 2004 lol , Matter of fact when Dorsey played The Canes weren’t even in the ACC they played in the Big East. Pollack needs to fact check himself before making incorrect statements like that on Live TV.
That’s what they said you idiot rewatch it and listen
Miami’s fans are all talk and no money. They don’t show up. All their NFL talent should donate some of their money.
And the board of trustees, chancellor, along with the president, athletic director and head coaches. 💯✊
I agree with the gentleman who said if they ever do a the u part 3 this should be the opening scene Kirk herbstreit expressing about Miami 👍
Honestly, coaching is our problem. If we don't get good coaching, then our decent player won't play good. That's why we suck. Go U 🙌
Thank you, every one on ESPN wants to point the finger at everything but the coaches.
These guys are speaking FACTS!! Amy Hurricanes fan (which I will always be one) who doesn’t agree with them in my mind isn’t a true fan. Love my canes, but these past years there had been no signs of the Hurricanes that shook up college football, only a light breeze talking tough. Smh.
Thank you Kirk!
Thank you for Cristobal
For me it's like they just stopped caring. As a kid I was a die hard hurricane fan and till this day I still follow the team every year to see if they turn things around but it's like, if they don't care, why should i
Ken Dorsey never played for Miami in the ACC nor was he on the team in 2004. Hopefully someone from ESPN sees this.
Kirk pointed it out listen
I said before. "When they tore the Orange Bowl down it killed Miami." Canes forever.
It's 2022 and we Just Made That Move!! 🙌
Thank you Kirk herbstreit 👏go canes
Why don't they bring in local reporters, who actually cover these teams to comment? The "reasons" are varied and complicated for most of these programs.
FACTS!! Desmond's point on not having 4 or 5 stars is on point and developing 2/3 star recruits. Just look at TCU, they develop 3 star defensive players to NFL first/second rounders.
Congratulations the Miami Hurricanes are officially a high school team.
Miami needs to spend some money to improve the program.
@@babykevinxoxo they did its called the turnover chain🤣
@@jayanderson7508 😂😂😂😂
@@jayanderson7508 that's just wrong, funny but wrong lol
It's a better game when they are great
Thank you Kirk. Go Canes! Mario is home
Thank u Kirk!!! Go Canes!!!
sadly, miami doesn't have the finances or stadium to keep up with the bamas and floridas of the world. it will be a doa program within 5 years
DCR, now you are hating because a coach that cares can change all. Hugh from LU wouldn't be a bad hire actually he would be good for the program
9 months later and what a change this caused from a life long canes fan that has watched the highest and lowest of the program and I wanna say thank you so much herbstriet for his comments on the program
I guess this really hit a nerve in the right places. I have never seen Miami invest this much into the Athletic Department and football program as I have seen in the last 3/4 months.
I’m sooooo glad Kirk put miami AD on blast
Who here after Miami fired the AD yesterday?
...because they are not scheduling teams like Kent st, Miami OH, u conn and teams that never been in the top 25. Now they have to have a power schedule.
Kirk called it
Kirk triggered the accountability thank you Kirk
It wasn't that long ago when Richt had Miami at #2 in the national polls during the middle of the season with Rosier as the QB. Unfortunately, they did not finish strong. I understand what Herbstriet is saying, but there is no reason for losing to wholly inferior teams the past couple of years. Miami may never be elite again, but they still have the talent to have good winning seasons. After all, the ACC Coastal isn't the most formidable division in college football. In fact, it is just the opposite.
It’s super winnable now with Cristobal and it appears the athletic department wants it the coastal should be Miami’s like how it was supposed to be when they joined the ACC
@@JohnSmith-wh2ob Agreed.
As a 40 yr Hurricane fan it hurts to hear this, lived in N. Miami for 30 yrs.I remember the good ol days in the Orange Bowl. There are alot of us out here who are waiting for a team to win a game of consequence. That well's been dry for too long...CLASS DISSMISSED
President, AD, Head Coach!!
We suck it's true and I'm glad y'all are blasting miami. The more heat the better maybe it will light a fire under someone's behind up in that administration office. Let them feel the heat
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Miami should have hired Lane Kiffin...he would have fit in great there...
lane kifffin sucks and isnt much better than manny
@@justinalley3399 ..ok
This is why Miami lost me as. fan. I was a fan since the 80's but it became very obvious the Presidents did not care about the program. Kirk is spot on. I have been in limbo looking who to support for over 10 years plus but it is better than cheering for a team who's president does not care about the football team.
His words need to be put into the next 30 for 30 that’s done on the program
He was right
Miami is what ... 1 win out of their last 20 games against Top 25 teams? Even UCF is about 50% against ranked teams, and around 50% against top 10 (3-3 IIRC since 2013). And UCF still gets 3-4x the fanbase 'butts in seats' than Miami when it's only 0.500, and has since the late '00s. And people wonder why UCF has been the #3 team in the state of Florida -- Floridians who say UCF is their #1 team -- the past decade? Miami hasn't finished AP Top 10 in almost 2 decades, while UCF has finished AP Top 10 as much as Miami has AP Top 25 in the past 8 seasons.
Build that HURRICANE STADIUM, they have the money
Said it for years. Miami is more concerned with the appearance of being good (turnover chain), rather than being good on the field. Miami has been irrelevant since Larry Coker was ran out of town.
And the constant reminder of how good they used to be….yes, you USED to be good. You haven’t been any good since you were good. Quit living off legacy and put some football product on the field and you may be taken seriously.
The announced crowd of 68,316 for Florida State's season opener against No. 7 Notre Dame was a smidge over 10,000 under the stadium's capacity of 79,560. If you can’t sell out a home game with Notre Dame you don’t deserve a football team. Jimbo left for a reason.
Has Miami had a sell out in Hard Rock?
Yea we are terrible but still IIII___IIII
As an alumnus and a huge Hurricane football fan I so appreciate Herbstreit for saying what needed to be said. The power entities at UM should be ashamed of the indifference and incompetent leadership they have demonstrated towards athletics over the past 20 years.
First mistake was to let the Seniors dictate what coach to hire after Bush Davis left.
Its over for the sunshine state. Them days are over.
Manny Diaz is the problem and that wasn't Copers team it was butch Davis team
Miami celebrating right now as if it's a big game Hahahahahah CCSU come on man
what are they supposed to do, lose to them?
Dude, kids will celebrate when they are winning, regardless who they are playing. Are you saying Alabama kids wouldn't be celebrating if they played CCSU and was winning by 60+ points? Come on man!!! It needs to start somewhere!
Alabama and other sec schools have taken their recruitment and also their uniforms need to go back to Nike apparel. The mighty ibis teams all sported swoosh materials
You could put Miami in the latest Nike gear and dress Alabama up in cheap "Short Bus" sneakers with the velcro straps and jerseys found in the Goodwill bargain bin and they would still stomp the Hurricanes.
You're right about the recruitments...but UNIFORMS??? That sounds like teenager talking, I have never seen a brand name jump out and make a takle. Since the name Alabama is mentioned, before Saban, Alabama's record was like what Miami's is right now...2007, 7-6, 2006, 6-7, 2003,4-9...2000, 3-8. Miami and FSU just need to find the right coach, assistants that can develop players, and the right players that wants to play football. Every team that is on top right now also had embarrassing years, until the right coach came along, and Herbstreit is correct about making changes at the top.
i dont care about the uniforms, its the coaching, thats the biggest problem
Miami just isn't a football club anymore there better off funding softball tennis golf and baseball . Football days died when they fired a great coach in Larry coker
Larry Coker lost that team all on his own. His best days were with Butch Davis' players. He may be better than his successors but firing him wasn't wrong at the time.
*They gotta drive 45 mins to the Stadium!?? Wow. That's a problem. Ever since they demolitioned the Orange Bowl it's been an bad aura*
Imagine being UCLA. The Rose Bowl is 25 miles away, takes 60 minutes to get to in LA traffic, and is closer to your rival USC.
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Well...Miami football and Georgetown basketball were successful experiments that will never happen again.
Go Noles
Well then stop putting them in the top 25 preseason rankings. They aren’t and won’t ever be good again because the players are arrogant and the coaches are inept.
Miami lost to LSU in the Chick-Fila bowl in 2005 like 45 to 3 and since that game they haven’t been the same. The emergence of FAU, FIU, USF, and UCF have hurt them as well.
Miami has never been the same since getting beat by Ohio State in ‘02. OSU beat them into mediocrity.
One has nothing to do with the other. You must be a Buckeyes fan or just hate UM.
Really the phantom PI GTFOH
Miami was still good in 03 and 04. It was 2005 when LSU destroyed them that they finally died. Trust me I am a Cane and I remember perfectly. 2002 was the beginning of the end I will say once that flag hit the ground.
Miami has been garage for way to long. FSU has just recently become garbage, they ain’t the same
Sounds like you're mad about fsu losing to miami for what 5 years now in a row
@@shailonnoelle7175 a 5 year winning streak just proves my point. In 2013 FSU was winning championship…. Miami hasn’t won anything since 2001… a big time gap
The Noles fell harder, faster than Miami.
4 straight losing seasons?
@@mikeschmidt4800 that’s true, FSU fell like a bag of bricks. However FSU decline was mainly because our national championship coach left us unexpectedly. Miami has been mediocre team for 20 years and can’t figure out why… Recruits today weren’t even born when Miami was good 😂
Miami hasn’t been nationally relevant for 15 yrs- why is this a story, they’re done.
Not a single lie was told. Straight Facts!!!!
A lot of these college programs are suffering from really bad athletic directors.
All the South Florida talent is leaving for Alabama
correction, they are leaving for nick Sabin
Since those coaches can't develop the players, of course they will go to alabama
Lol!!!
No good coaches want to coach here! Nobody cares!
not true, Butch Davis, Lane Kiffin, Mario Cristóbal , Huge Freeze, Dan Mullins they all wanted the job but Miami's AD wasn't smart enough to hire any of them.
The drugs t00.
Go Gators!
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You guys were in that position recently dont get amnesia
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