Back in the 1970's, I got a hold of 300 rounds of 7.62 x 39 ammo at a gun show. Back then anything AK was almost scarce. The ammo had a blank head stamp. It fired nicely and provided me with reloadable AK brass for many years. (We were not importing ANY foreign AK ammo back then.) Years later I learned that a batch of ammo had been manufactured by Winchester for US use when making excursions into illegal areas when our troops used AK's as not to leave evidence of US involvement. I guess it had value as a collectable. I still have one round in my small collection, unfired. I still reload the same brass as well as some Norma and then other brands as they got imported. As I recall I used 3031 powder. it worked very well.
Instead of using the needle nose pliers to fold out neck dents, use a tapered (nail set) punch to evenly expand the dents. Only use pliers for folded over dents... I do large quantities of brass ( '000s), and dry tumble them Before decapping and FLS; Dry tumbling is done in a Concrete mixer with granulated PVC electrical insulation; usually 1500 to 2000 shells at a time, over 4-5 hours. Wet tumbling comes asa final, in&out& primer pocket clean of FLS shells. Results: Commercial Quality Brass ( we leave any case trimming to the Customer, although we do have a Dillon Auto trim for our 1050 presses. Good explanation, especially the LemonShine dosage. Thankyou, Doc AV down under.
Great channel. I like the content, and the videos have the right amount of variety, information, length, humor, and quiet insanity. Keep up the good work.
Good question, I've found that many people apply the gas check before pan lubing, less mess in your die and from handling. Could work either way though.
To dry the tumbled brass in the winter I make a little bowl out of aluminum foil and put it on the wood stove, in the summer I set it out in the sun to dry. It gets spots if it takes too long to dry but no biggie.
There are many ways to dry brass, I often just let it sit on paper towels and air dry overnight or just dry it in the sun. Your laundry method sounds interesting, should work, and will leaver your brass smelling fresh! Just keep in mind that it is brass so it is not going to rust away if you don't dry it rapidly, it might get water spots but that's about it. Thanks for subscribing!
Hey bud, I understand the volume is low, you've posted this comment on 10 of my videos over the last 10 days. I will try to fix this in future vids but please understand that I can't manipulate my pre-existing videos. This brass video was uploaded March 5th prior to your comments, but not released until March 29th. I am very glad you like my channel, thank you and best wishes. MJ
Yeah, even the crappiest old brass comes out looking new but I still use my vibratory tumbler with corncob media occasionally and for applying polish when I'm feeling fancy. :)
Tthanks. I am spending a lot of my free time, reading up, and watching vids about casting and reloading. Compents are hard to come by these days for making rounds. Th only ammo I make is 230 grain .45 acp, and that is just luck, I ordered two thousand FMJ bullets just before all the craziness started. But now I am rationing that to 75 rounds a week.. And am breaking out the old 870 trap gun to bide the time until summer. Hell I can't even get round ball for my black poweder guns, or molds.
Yeah, I didn't anneal them because they were supposedly once fired cases and looked good after cleaning. I may anneal them after a few firings. Thanks for watching.
Great minds think alike. I am doing the same thing this evening with brass that I found at the range. I always visually verify from the top that I am not trying to work Berdan primed cases.
I believe CTL312-160-2R is what you are after. You want a cast bullet to be slightly larger than a jacketed bullet and you may want to size them before loading depending on your bore and the mold size.
Great vid. I use an ultrasonic cleaner with good results, but nearly as nice as the stainless pins. I see that Buffalo Arms sell both the tumbler and pins. Thanks for sharing!
Wonder how much it would cost per round if made today? My local gun and tackle store hasn't been able to keep primers, powder, bullets and/or brass on his shelves for over 2-years now.
I have the same wet tumbler. We must have the same grandma. LOL I just got my lee 20lb casting pot in and I am ready to go. Will start next week. I have a question about pan lubing and gas checks. Whould you put the gas checks on before you pan lube or after you pan lube ?
You can Make a divider out of a cheap plastic cutting board for your Thumblers Tumbler.. That's what I did and that cuts down the time it takes to sort your brass, Like .357 and .38 special. 9mm and .380 auto or .38 super. .44 magnum and .44 special. and so on. Just cut the plastic board to fit at the widest part of your drum, drill some holes to let the pins migrate from one side to the other. That's it.. Good Video dude. Dave.
Yeah... definitely time to cast bullets. I think 45 ACP was the first that I cast. I found some of my first batch a few weeks ago and realized that what I thought was good actually looked like crap. They would have shot fine but back into the pot they will go. 45acp brass is/was plentiful/cheap, a little unique is cheap, lead cast bullet are cheap to make... primers, well crap. :)
Great video. I have never seen casings cleaned using your method. I would like to give it a try. Thanks to Grandma for developing the recipe. Where did you get the stainless steel pins?
I have a question. How has firing lead cast bullets through your AK turned out? I always got the impression (from gas-operated systems like the Desert Eagle) that firing lead bullets may foul and clog the gas system resulting in a single-shot firearm. I've always had the impression that it is advisable to shoot only jacketed bullets when using a gas-operated firearm. Please correct me if I have any misconceptions. Great video by the way! Very informative. :)
I have found out from years of wet tumbling that using a product like Turtle wax and shine instead of dish soap works way better. If you find your brass discoloring after you wash it then then it tarnishes when it's drying try the Turtle wax and shine. It will amaze you and leaves a microscopic was on the brass and protects it from tarnishing the lemi shine softens the water also so use it in hard water for sure prevents spots the wax left behind from washing this way will not interfere with your loading any way.
How do you reload 7.62x39, how do you find your brass? I mean, unless you're shooting a bolt action.. my AK and SKS throw the shells probably 30 feet in the grass from where Im standing, lol.
I found the best solution is to check shooting areas, set a tarp or shooting map before you shoot, and lastly if you want to keep all brass they sell brass catchers for cheap everytime you fire it ejects the casing into the bag
Noticed you had some brass with copper on the outside, I've seen this too after cleaning in vinegar, any other recommendations for removing it [besides stainless steel pins]?
I understand former-Yugoslavian' M67 ammunition (regarding cartridge dimensions) is S.A.M.M.I. specification, could someone please confirm if commercial, current-production Prvi Partizan follows C.I.P. standards? Restoration video was informative, as is usual for The Ammo Channel.
I use a Lee 30 caliber decapper, the type with a rod & a base. The rod is tapered & will round out the case mouth while decapping. One less step that way.
Bought the same thumler, steel pins, and lemishine. Can't wait, got tons of 7.62x39 dirtier than that. Thank you. Anyone know how to remove ejection dings?
Hey man good videos! I subed a few days back and im getting into reloading so your channels a big help!! Have you reloaded 5.7x28mm at all? I would like some feed back on this round if possible thanks!!
Neat. I've often considered the wet method, but case-drying methods made me nervous - especially the oven-on-low method. I wonder what putting them in a cloth bag (or several layers of cloth bag) and tumble-drying them would do? Surely no way that's getting hot enough to do metallurgical damage, and I could kill two birds with one stone - the laundry needs doing in any case, so if it's safe, why not? Also - SUBSCRIBED. :)
You can speed up you time greatly by misting your cases with silicone spray lube instead of using the pad lube method. Just stand the cases on end and give a slight mist.
Substitute Ammonia for your citrus cleaner. Does the same, cleaning wise, plus it neutralizes corrosive primer residue. If you'll notice, the main ingredient in most brass cleaner/polish is Urea, also known as Ammonia.
Hey I use the method of clean you described. Your video actually got me turned on to reloading and cleaning the way you described. I have had recent problems of my brass tarnishing after cleaning then drying at low temp in the oven. Am I using to much dish soap that has harsh chemicals? wrong brand (dawn dish)?
+FreedomPrepper Try using Turtle wax wash and shine instead of the dish soap it leaves a microscopic coating on the brass that keeps it from tarnishing one of wet tumbling best kept secrets
Get a loadmaster. You don't need much patience for that. Reloading 500 rounds takes about 1.5 hours of work between cleaning and reloading. It costs about 1/5 retail right now, and I get ammo sized to my gun rather than one size fits all.
+TheMaverickq Financially, right now it isn't. But as the Great Ammo Rushes of 2009 and 2013 reminded us, store-bought ammo (even Wolf/Tulammo) is not always readily available. In such a case, it's good to know how to roll your own. The stainless-steel pin wet-tumbling method for cleaning cases is very effective, BTW.
+TheMaverickq Yeah, cases from scratch might be a little tough. Fortunately, there are a lot of milsurp and commercial steel cases. Unfortunately, brass-cased, Boxer-primed 7.62x39 rounds are currently relatively expensive, and buying ammo is the best way (right now) of getting such brass. Besides, if it were easy/cheap to make your own brass cases, we wouldn't need resizing/decapping dies, now, would we? :-)
Back in the 1970's, I got a hold of 300 rounds of 7.62 x 39 ammo at a gun show. Back then anything AK was almost scarce. The ammo had a blank head stamp. It fired nicely and provided me with reloadable AK brass for many years. (We were not importing ANY foreign AK ammo back then.) Years later I learned that a batch of ammo had been manufactured by Winchester for US use when making excursions into illegal areas when our troops used AK's as not to leave evidence of US involvement. I guess it had value as a collectable. I still have one round in my small collection, unfired. I still reload the same brass as well as some Norma and then other brands as they got imported. As I recall I used 3031 powder. it worked very well.
"One .45 acp full of that"... That's one badass measure right there:)!
hell yeah it is.
I love how you get up close with the camera when you show all the steps. It really helps show what's going on. Thanks.
Instead of using the needle nose pliers to fold out neck dents, use a tapered (nail set) punch to evenly expand the dents. Only use pliers for folded over dents...
I do large quantities of brass ( '000s), and dry tumble them Before decapping and FLS; Dry tumbling is done in a Concrete mixer with granulated PVC electrical insulation; usually 1500 to 2000 shells at a time, over 4-5 hours.
Wet tumbling comes asa final, in&out& primer pocket clean of FLS shells.
Results: Commercial Quality Brass ( we leave any case trimming to the Customer, although we do have a Dillon Auto trim for our 1050 presses.
Good explanation, especially the LemonShine dosage.
Thankyou, Doc AV down under.
Thanks for your compliment and you are a very smart person for saving your brass. You will be glad you did. :)
"Grandma..she always had the cleanest brass out there" LOL... Subscribed
Good question. Sometimes I do it by hand if a small batch, real easy. I use a media separator (a $30 tool) if doing large batches.
Dude you're the MAN!! That brass is sooooo nice! Thanks for sharing your awesome recipe.
Love the name of this post. There just aren't enough New Grass Revival references these days. Great video, too. Thanks!
Great channel. I like the content, and the videos have the right amount of variety, information, length, humor, and quiet insanity. Keep up the good work.
Good question, I've found that many people apply the gas check before pan lubing, less mess in your die and from handling. Could work either way though.
To dry the tumbled brass in the winter I make a little bowl out of aluminum foil and put it on the wood stove, in the summer I set it out in the sun to dry. It gets spots if it takes too long to dry but no biggie.
There are many ways to dry brass, I often just let it sit on paper towels and air dry overnight or just dry it in the sun. Your laundry method sounds interesting, should work, and will leaver your brass smelling fresh! Just keep in mind that it is brass so it is not going to rust away if you don't dry it rapidly, it might get water spots but that's about it. Thanks for subscribing!
You brass reloader people are freaks. Wish I had the time and patience though.
Yes, I occasionally still use corncob media in a vibratory tumbler which was how I did it before the stainless.
Thanks for your compliment and for subscribing recently. :)
Hey bud, I understand the volume is low, you've posted this comment on 10 of my videos over the last 10 days. I will try to fix this in future vids but please understand that I can't manipulate my pre-existing videos. This brass video was uploaded March 5th prior to your comments, but not released until March 29th. I am very glad you like my channel, thank you and best wishes. MJ
I thought I had that sorted out, will try again on the next one. Thanks.
Ive never seen the steel rods before. You showed me something new, thanks
Thanks for subbing. It is a Thumlers Tumbler with stainless pins.
Yes, good idea!
Yeah, even the crappiest old brass comes out looking new but I still use my vibratory tumbler with corncob media occasionally and for applying polish when I'm feeling fancy. :)
Tthanks. I am spending a lot of my free time, reading up, and watching vids about casting and reloading. Compents are hard to come by these days for making rounds. Th only ammo I make is 230 grain .45 acp, and that is just luck, I ordered two thousand FMJ bullets just before all the craziness started. But now I am rationing that to 75 rounds a week.. And am breaking out the old 870 trap gun to bide the time until summer. Hell I can't even get round ball for my black poweder guns, or molds.
Yeah, I didn't anneal them because they were supposedly once fired cases and looked good after cleaning. I may anneal them after a few firings. Thanks for watching.
Love your videos they really help me out thank you for taking your time to share your amazing technics
Great minds think alike. I am doing the same thing this evening with brass that I found at the range. I always visually verify from the top that I am not trying to work Berdan primed cases.
Thanx for giving name of tumbler as that would have been my question, too.Good Job. Choctawman
I believe CTL312-160-2R is what you are after. You want a cast bullet to be slightly larger than a jacketed bullet and you may want to size them before loading depending on your bore and the mold size.
Great! Thanks I slide a tapered punch/center punch into the case mouths of dinged cases.
Quick and easy.
Granny had the shiniest brass out there! Priceless XD
Hi, at the time I ordered Buffalo Arms seemed to have the best price on Stainless Steel pins.
Great vid. I use an ultrasonic cleaner with good results, but nearly as nice as the stainless pins. I see that Buffalo Arms sell both the tumbler and pins. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the great videos, I just subbed this week after finding your channel.
cool - nice to see that dinged brass can still be used
wow that was amazing brother!
Wonder how much it would cost per round if made today? My local gun and tackle store hasn't been able to keep primers, powder, bullets and/or brass on his shelves for over 2-years now.
Yes, a LOT. It's in the works, I promise.
GOD that brass is so shinny!!!
I have the same wet tumbler. We must have the same grandma. LOL
I just got my lee 20lb casting pot in and I am ready to go. Will start next week.
I have a question about pan lubing and gas checks. Whould you put the gas checks on before you pan lube or after you pan lube ?
Great video. Those cases came out looking great! I'm curious how you separated the media from the cases post tumbling.
Thank for the tips maine!
congratulations ,very helpful video once more!
Just subscribed, nice work what tumbler is that?
That's a great tumbler.
You can Make a divider out of a cheap plastic cutting board for your Thumblers Tumbler.. That's what I did and that cuts down the time it takes to sort your brass, Like .357 and .38 special. 9mm and .380 auto or .38 super. .44 magnum and .44 special. and so on. Just cut the plastic board to fit at the widest part of your drum, drill some holes to let the pins migrate from one side to the other. That's it.. Good Video dude. Dave.
I love these videos
Yeah... definitely time to cast bullets. I think 45 ACP was the first that I cast. I found some of my first batch a few weeks ago and realized that what I thought was good actually looked like crap. They would have shot fine but back into the pot they will go. 45acp brass is/was plentiful/cheap, a little unique is cheap, lead cast bullet are cheap to make... primers, well crap. :)
يعطيك العافيه وحبيت اطلب هالمكينه اللي تصنع الرصاص والمواد واتمنى تواصلك ياعزيزي
Wow awesome job!
Great video. I have never seen casings cleaned using your method. I would like to give it a try. Thanks to Grandma for developing the recipe. Where did you get the stainless steel pins?
The power of Grayskull helps reduce lead fouling in cast loads. Didn't you know that? :)
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Keep em comin!
Awesome!!! i love your videos
After you tumbled your brass in the wet media, how do you dry your brass ?
Wow, the cases are really shiny now.
I have a question. How has firing lead cast bullets through your AK turned out?
I always got the impression (from gas-operated systems like the Desert Eagle) that firing lead bullets may foul and clog the gas system resulting in a single-shot firearm. I've always had the impression that it is advisable to shoot only jacketed bullets when using a gas-operated firearm.
Please correct me if I have any misconceptions.
Great video by the way! Very informative. :)
I have found out from years of wet tumbling that using a product like Turtle wax and shine instead of dish soap works way better. If you find your brass discoloring after you wash it then then it tarnishes when it's drying try the Turtle wax and shine. It will amaze you and leaves a microscopic was on the brass and protects it from tarnishing the lemi shine softens the water also so use it in hard water for sure prevents spots the wax left behind from washing this way will not interfere with your loading any way.
How do you reload 7.62x39, how do you find your brass? I mean, unless you're shooting a bolt action.. my AK and SKS throw the shells probably 30 feet in the grass from where Im standing, lol.
I found the best solution is to check shooting areas, set a tarp or shooting map before you shoot, and lastly if you want to keep all brass they sell brass catchers for cheap everytime you fire it ejects the casing into the bag
very nice I love it
They sure look better.
Nice. Do you ever use dry media to clean your brass? I've never seen anyone use anything other than walnut or corncob.
Thanks for your compliment and for subscribing last year. :)
I step I would add to a very dinged up or bent case, would be annealing/heat treating the case after cleaning and resizing
Sir please let me know how these bullet cases are made with brass
Noticed you had some brass with copper on the outside, I've seen this too after cleaning in vinegar, any other recommendations for removing it [besides stainless steel pins]?
This is art
R u going to du more in 762x54r? Thanks
I understand former-Yugoslavian' M67 ammunition (regarding cartridge dimensions) is S.A.M.M.I. specification, could someone please confirm if commercial, current-production Prvi Partizan follows C.I.P. standards?
Restoration video was informative, as is usual for The Ammo Channel.
Id be curious to know a general price range to save up for to get into this
Can you do that with steel casings?
I use a Lee 30 caliber decapper, the type with a rod & a base. The rod is tapered & will round out the case mouth while decapping. One less step that way.
Bought the same thumler, steel pins, and lemishine. Can't wait, got tons of 7.62x39 dirtier than that. Thank you. Anyone know how to remove ejection dings?
Can you please show how to actually reload 762x39? I wanna get into reloading! :)
Hey man good videos! I subed a few days back and im getting into reloading so your channels a big help!! Have you reloaded 5.7x28mm at all? I would like some feed back on this round if possible thanks!!
how many times can be a spent cartridge to be reused and is still considered safe?
So with the stainless steel media, do you have any problem with the rods getting stuck in the flash holes, like walnut shells do?
that is some nice brass
dat brass XD
Awesome
do you think ultra Sonic cleaning would be ok as well?
The ammo after the cleaning looks so weird since it's so nice and shiny, but still bent up a good bit.
Great thanks
Neat. I've often considered the wet method, but case-drying methods made me nervous - especially the oven-on-low method. I wonder what putting them in a cloth bag (or several layers of cloth bag) and tumble-drying them would do? Surely no way that's getting hot enough to do metallurgical damage, and I could kill two birds with one stone - the laundry needs doing in any case, so if it's safe, why not? Also - SUBSCRIBED. :)
so basically you can reuse spent bullet shells right?
You can speed up you time greatly by misting your cases with silicone spray lube instead of using the pad lube method. Just stand the cases on end and give a slight mist.
Substitute Ammonia for your citrus cleaner. Does the same, cleaning wise, plus it neutralizes corrosive primer residue. If you'll notice, the main ingredient in most brass cleaner/polish is Urea, also known as Ammonia.
ammonia is not good for brass.
Over the life of ammunition cases, ammonia doesn't have enough effect to worry about. It's still the best cleaner available.
Hey I use the method of clean you described. Your video actually got me turned on to reloading and cleaning the way you described. I have had recent problems of my brass tarnishing after cleaning then drying at low temp in the oven. Am I using to much dish soap that has harsh chemicals? wrong brand (dawn dish)?
Did you rinse them?
+FreedomPrepper Try using Turtle wax wash and shine instead of the dish soap it leaves a microscopic coating on the brass that keeps it from tarnishing one of wet tumbling best kept secrets
those case mouths were in rough shape. if it were we, i'd have annealed them. why go thru all that and end up with split cases ?
The brass turn out pretty. Too good to shoot. My damn tumbler and walnut media doesn't turn out as awesome as your brass.
How many times can you re-use these?
how many times shoould/can you reuse brass casings?
وحبيت استفسر عن سعر المكينه وأبي خلفيه عن كل ماهو بالمقطع
Get a loadmaster. You don't need much patience for that. Reloading 500 rounds takes about 1.5 hours of work between cleaning and reloading. It costs about 1/5 retail right now, and I get ammo sized to my gun rather than one size fits all.
Make 50 bmg that would be really cool
Subscribing, this guy is great.
was it worth it?
+TheMaverickq Financially, right now it isn't. But as the Great Ammo Rushes of 2009 and 2013 reminded us, store-bought ammo (even Wolf/Tulammo) is not always readily available. In such a case, it's good to know how to roll your own. The stainless-steel pin wet-tumbling method for cleaning cases is very effective, BTW.
+Cowboy Yea but he used old brass cases. What if he can't get any? I would like to see how to make it from scratch.
+TheMaverickq Yeah, cases from scratch might be a little tough. Fortunately, there are a lot of milsurp and commercial steel cases. Unfortunately, brass-cased, Boxer-primed 7.62x39 rounds are currently relatively expensive, and buying ammo is the best way (right now) of getting such brass. Besides, if it were easy/cheap to make your own brass cases, we wouldn't need resizing/decapping dies, now, would we? :-)
IT's obvious you don't care. Your ads blow my speakers then your video can hardly be heard. Other than that I love your videos !!
I found a 9mm shell while metal detecting in my back yard
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