I know it might be a pain in the ass, but borrow Tim’s a PSC sensor Sony and throw his 50 mil macro lens on there and just put it on a tripod next to the peep so we can see how you’re tying in the peeping a D Loop when you’re doing it.
Watching you put that piece of loop string in the bow string to set the timing was just amazing to see. Something that simple to do is something to witness for myself in your bow shop awesome video.
Agree with everything you did, I can’t stress enough how most shops get you 80% there. It’s what motivated me to have my own press and be able to do everything you just did. I had to get to that point to elevate my accuracy because local shops just didn’t get me there, well done sir!
Absolutely love this type of video, and learned a lot about it. got a lift 33 on order so I'll be going through this process soon and this is invaluable to me, so thank you!
I'm your average bow hunter was looking to upgrade last year been shooting all the different new 2023 bows . Was down to bowtec mock1 and mathews Bowes phase 4 or geniuses .my old bow failed now I shot 2024 bows just in and had to pick mathews lift with all its tec. Excited to see how it can improve my shot with mathews new grip and cell apps
Thanks MFJJ for explaining why soft knots for your d-loop is a great idea. I have been trying to do my own research trying to figure out why you would want to do soft knots. Now i know. I have always wanted to put them on my bow but wanted to understand why its a good idea beyond the single idea of trying to save your d-loop position when replacing a bad d-loop. Much appreciated. Unfortunately my local bow shop doesnt do this. And i shoot my bow a lot. Or atleast i think i do. And trying to get my strings to last as long as possible is a big deal to me. 👍
I have shot Hoyt for the past 10 years mainly because my personal preference in the draw cycle and I actually liked the spongy back wall that everyone hates them for, but I have to admit that I am very impressed and interested in getting to try out the lift and from what I've seen I think I may be switching to a mathews
Saw MMFJs 2yo video a few weeks on grip. I’m an idiot and was casting magic spells on a floppy wrist. Now I’ve pulled my hand back and I’m drilling nails. Dimes at 20, quarters at 30 and the dot on the dice at 40. I was doing pie plates at 40 a few weeks ago. THANK YOU!
Just got the same paper tear through the same bow. Tried flipping the top hats on top cam and got the opposite tear. Did you use different top hats than what was from the factory or just had to switch them around? Many thanks if you get around to answering my question. Love your stuff and your new stabilizers are freaking awesome!
First off I love your videos. Just getting into bows. The frustrating part I have on your videos is that you review and score the bows but I'm not finding a spreadsheet or anything showing all the bows or 2024 bows or some sort of category for your scoring in one place that I can see side by side. I have to watch every video to see the scores. If you have that on your site or something will you please let me know? Great build video. Thank you.
I'll be in Spokane this May and will find your archery shop. I plan to turkey hunt Washington again. Wondering if I'd be welcome to watch you or your staff set up a bow? Heck, I may buy one just to watch "you" tune a bow.
Love these bow builds. Just wish I could see what’s going on a little better. I watch listen and have adopted Josh’s way of doing things. I believe he truly knows his stuff when it comes to bows. Please please please try tog at this stuff more close up so I can see it. I’m sure that’s a pain and I know you can’t please everyone. Just decided his way is the way I wanna do things. The videos out there are just slightly tough to see the fine details. Thanks
Video request! Do one with the 33” also why you chose which accessories and please do a video with a one piece vs two piece mathews quiver mounted differences
Super vidéo, dommage qu’il n’y ai pas de zoom sur les montage ( D-Loop, noeud, repose flèche….). Par contre je n’ai pas compris pourquoi le bout de corde pour corriger le test papier !! Merci
It's ridiculous how they nickel and dime you when you're already paying good money upfront for their product. Their "EZ-Glide" should just come with it. It can't cost any more to make than the football that comes with it. I have the Hybrid Hunter Pro. I was a crappy design, and the spring got all stretched out. They want me to pay ANOTHER $49.99 for their so-called "Conversion kit" which addresses the product defect that they engineered into it in the first place. Something that they should've offered for free for previously-purchased product, and which they should include as the default configuration, going forward. It's literally pennies for them to produce the 'fix', and they're charging through the nose to make it how it should have been from the start. I said screw that, and just used some 1/8" surgical tubing, knotted up with the drive cable looped through each knot. It does the same thing as their $50 "conversion kit", and it cost me about $0.20 in surgical tubing, which I already have a roll of because I use that stuff for SCUBA gear, and lots of other things around the house. Hamskea makes a nice rest; once you address the design flaws, it runs great. I'm going to drive this one until the wheels fall off. But I'll be damned if they ever get another dime from me. Their principles, as a company, just seem completely out of whack to me. I get that they need to make money on the front end, which is why I was willing to pay top dollar for the product in the first place. But when they also want to milk their customer base on the back end, to make things right with their own design flaws, that's where I jump off and won't look back. There are plenty of other great options on the market that just work correctly out of the box without having to pay for a bunch of tiny little extras that slowly creep the end-price up and up and up; and that's where I'll spend my money in the future.
It would be interesting to see the 33, though it's similar. Maybe more interesting would be the Hoyt since it's potentially more challenging to move the cams preciously
Doesn't a d loop that short create torque on the string when it's at full draw using a handheld release that's twisting it 45 degrees? For an index it won't matter but for a handheld my thinking was it shouldn't pressure the string
Wonder the same thing, a local wiz always sets them up fairly long. At most you'll only get 1/2" of draw length is that worth it to shoot a more unforgiving setup? or does it really not matter?
Okay here is a real challenge. I would love to see a score difference between the flagship bow of the year against the budget bow of the year at 50 yards. If done honestly we could put a value on each point. It will make a lot of people mad but I would love to see it.
@@10flyingdutchman I watch that video twice now. It was a not real test. The arrows where different and to be honest they are both Matthew's bows. It was a 7 point difference and a price difference of 1200 bow to a 359 dollar bow. How much is each point worth? I believe it was more like 3000 dollars bow vs a 600 dollar bow with all the extras. It would be awsome to see the difference in the top 2 top budget top flagship and let us know the price per point. Thank you for replying.
I mentioned this in the previous video...Keith your grip is too deep on the OnneX C, back off one set of knuckles so your hand is more flat. It gives you a more consistent anchor point and it moves the head of the release more in line with the string vs pulling the head away from your face.
@@jkeithhowe It's a Dudley thing ☺ He is very adamant about drawing and anchoring with as flat of a hand as possible. My guess it will feel very different and possibly a little more difficult at first but like John mentions if you draw too deep on your grip as you relax slightly after your anchor the release now moves and your anchor point literally moves.
It looks like it’s hanging off the end of the release. Can you send me a picture I would like to do so. Lost a Stan heavy metal last year. It was an expensive oops
From the inside edge of the riser to the centerline of your arrow. This is centershot in most brand name bows, not including newer Bears, though, they can run 7/8 to 3/4 depending on cam lean and tune.
Unrelated to this video. Have you heard about the new Athens bows having a cam tuning system just like Bowtech? I know making cam tuning easier needs to be a goal for everyone. But this sure looks like a 1 to 1 rip off.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 maybe I asked someone who knows more about bows, bow companies and bow technology than you and I combined most likely. I've seen Athens comments when people ask about it and they say it's new technology and it works differently. But it uses an Allen wrench to move the axle from side to side. Which is the same as Bowtech. I asked the question in hopes that if he hadn't seen it he would want to get his hands on one or at least look into it.
Great vlog Josh and your friend there did a really great job setting up his new bow. Congrats buddy!! Josh just one thing to point out and say is that I do not hate Mathews that I would not consider shooting them I just do not like that everyone thinks that they are the best bow out there and they sure do the most marketing out there than any other bow brand just to push their products and in my opinion there are just as good bows and maybe even better than Mathews out there. Each to their own. I shoot Hoyt and I love the product and people bitch and belly ack about how much they are and the tunning capability. At the end of the day is that sometimes you have to give up something to make the product better and that is what Hoyt has done. So then Josh what is your honest opinion on Hoyt bows because we all know that you just rave about Mathews like everyone else does. And also why do you guys in the USA get all offended when someone asks you how does a manufacturer pay you!!!
Have you thought that maybe he actually does like Mathews as much as he says he does?? And maybe so does everybody else who isn’t sponsored by Mathews? Bows are just like ford/ram/chevy trucks. Everybody has their opinion on which one they think is best. Let’s just agree that we all aren’t going to agree on what we think is the best. And most importantly, why do you care so much about his opinion on Mathews? It obviously hasn’t swayed your opinion to switch from Hoyt so why complain about it?? Just my 2 cents…whether you cared to hear it or not.
@@jonzimmerman6203 Buddy I really do not think that your getting the message here, what I am trying to say is every time someone does reviews on bow brands it is always Mathews bows are the best but they are not to think that they are personally I think that there is bows out there that are just as good out there or even better and why would I change my RX-8 one of the best carbon bows out there did you hear me CARBON buddy not aluminum. Sounds like you are one of those Mathews fish out there and that is all that you will buy and shoot how do they pay you buddy like I said Mathews probably has the best marketing out there in the business for sure and all the power to them!!!
Seems like some people just want to complain because he's not going on about your favorite bow so you're getting butt hurt. Shoot what you like and don't worry about everyone else. Beautiful thing about us humans we all like and dislike different things. How boring the world would be if we all liked the exact same things. Just my two cents, take it for what you will.
@@TONY4563084 Tony buddy please don't preach to me I do not need a priest to tell me what is good and not good. The archery world just revolves around Mathews and everything else is garbage face it Tony you know that I am 100% right face it!!!
Buddy, you sound like a ridiculous Hoyt fan boy who’s upset your 2k bare bow didn’t receive top honors from MFJJ. And who cares that your bow is carbon, sure as hell doesn’t make it any better than an aluminum bow. It most definitely makes it a lot more expensive of a bow though…that’s a fact! I do know what you’re getting at. My whole point was who gives a F what somebody thinks about Mathews. Obviously you do though….enough to write a long comment to pout about it. I’m just calling you out because you sound like a child. And for the record, I own 2 Bowtechs and a Mathews bow. Happy with all of them.
Now that commenting is available, I will post here as well. Anyone that has actually been following these channels/ MFJJ, Tim Connor, and their podcast since they started them would know this and should actually care and call them out for the dishonesty. They were giving away 2023 flag ship bows from Matthew’s, Hoyt, bowtech, etc..(there were like 10 bows) and that was over 6 months ago. They said they were going to call people and had people fill out forms online with their personal information. MFJJ said he would be calling people and having them come in to make videos of the bow and him building them for people and it was contingent on people being able to drive or fly to him so he could make the videos and give them the bows. He also said they would be given away before hunting season so people could use them and here we are, hunting season is over and he never brings it up or talks about it again. Love the channels and love watching them but seems pretty scummy to not go through with something like that or even have a follow up video even though you took peoples information🤷♂️💀
Have you ever gotten busy and had to put things on the back burner? I know I have. Just from watching his videos, you can see he’s a busy guy. I’m sure giving away his products and free time to make videos for non paying clients was put on hold for a bit until he slows down some.
In a Podcast there was a mention on how they have to redo the giveaways. Time and logistics being the major factors…especially time. And I was one of the many who put in our info but did it bother me that it didn’t happen? No. MFJJ is one of the most busiest people trying to get everyone situated in archery whether you’re a noob or a seasoned archer. He is also human and has a normal life like us. Be grateful he and his team can even provide us youtube content for us to enjoy outside of his primary business (SVA). Just keep shooting. United and not divided 🤙🏽
I said something before really just asking what was going on with it. its free shit he paid for so im not gonna complain it didnt happen when he said. he is real busy for sure. I also gave my info and had to make accounts cause I dont use any of the social media stuff but did for a chance at a new bow. I also see the flip side if you say your gonna do something maybe just keep folks informed which he did in the podcast..
A lot of what they call innovations I just don't care that much about, I don't mind them, but they really aren't all that. The machined in pic rails and especially the machined in dovetail stuff, while nice just isn't worth the big$. I would rather see a riser drilled and tapped for a removable pic rail if they continue down this road. have give props to the light weight that Hoyt and Matthews did this year though. However imo the adjustability/tuneability innovations that bowtech and elite have been doing, way more impressive than the integrated accessory stuff, if either or both of them start doing the weight reduction they would be hard to even compare to anything else.
My Halon 32 was made in 2015 and they just changed the cam in 2023 soooooo. The bows change very slowly actually. Which is why I’m going to shoot the Lift and see if it’s worth buying. And the Bow costs $1400 and I already have an extra rest and sight. That’s cheap for what the Lift took to make and develop IMO
I think the Lift is perfect for girls. My daughter complains how heavy bows are…. So it makes me think it’s a great bow for female hunters … Everything else as far as specs, it’s very similar to The other brands…
I know it might be a pain in the ass, but borrow Tim’s a PSC sensor Sony and throw his 50 mil macro lens on there and just put it on a tripod next to the peep so we can see how you’re tying in the peeping a D Loop when you’re doing it.
I remember when Brandon McDonald use to make some bad a$$ videos for UA-cam……. Just sayin
@@dansmith8933he’s been busy, just had a baby
I’m a mechanic and teaching someone how to do the things you do everyday takes the patience of Jobe! Very well done and really enjoyed watching!
I love these types of videos. I tend to learn more from them. I think because it's slowed down a bit more, but you should definitely do more.
Watching you put that piece of loop string in the bow string to set the timing was just amazing to see. Something that simple to do is something to witness for myself in your bow shop awesome video.
Have to agree
Man I wish I lived in Spokane Washington. You have the most cool bow shop and not to mention a great personality!
Agree with everything you did, I can’t stress enough how most shops get you 80% there. It’s what motivated me to have my own press and be able to do everything you just did. I had to get to that point to elevate my accuracy because local shops just didn’t get me there, well done sir!
That's what I call Good tutorial video. So the buyer gets all the in and out of his new bow. Job well done. Another great video.
I'm glad your dog came back out at the end.
Awesome job! I’m gonna make my way there from NY. When I buy my new bow. Thanks MFJJ.🙏🏽
This is the exact setup I would run! Great to see the setup in detail.
Absolutely love this type of video, and learned a lot about it. got a lift 33 on order so I'll be going through this process soon and this is invaluable to me, so thank you!
Thought it was a very informative video. I try to watch all your videos they are always informative. Thank you!!
Congratulations Keith on your new Bow.
Appreciate the video MFJJ. Camera quality was a little fuzzy but still appreciate the build.
I'm your average bow hunter was looking to upgrade last year been shooting all the different new 2023 bows . Was down to bowtec mock1 and mathews Bowes phase 4 or geniuses .my old bow failed now I shot 2024 bows just in and had to pick mathews lift with all its tec. Excited to see how it can improve my shot with mathews new grip and cell apps
Thanks MFJJ for explaining why soft knots for your d-loop is a great idea. I have been trying to do my own research trying to figure out why you would want to do soft knots. Now i know. I have always wanted to put them on my bow but wanted to understand why its a good idea beyond the single idea of trying to save your d-loop position when replacing a bad d-loop. Much appreciated. Unfortunately my local bow shop doesnt do this. And i shoot my bow a lot. Or atleast i think i do. And trying to get my strings to last as long as possible is a big deal to me. 👍
First 5 min.... I feel like Bob Ross is tying nocking points. Same calming voice, made me want to grab an easel and paint happy little trees. 😂😂
Just shot the LIFT 33.. it's now on hold and coming home with me tomorrow when I bring in my Torrex for trade in.
I have shot Hoyt for the past 10 years mainly because my personal preference in the draw cycle and I actually liked the spongy back wall that everyone hates them for, but I have to admit that I am very impressed and interested in getting to try out the lift and from what I've seen I think I may be switching to a mathews
Saw MMFJs 2yo video a few weeks on grip. I’m an idiot and was casting magic spells on a floppy wrist.
Now I’ve pulled my hand back and I’m drilling nails. Dimes at 20, quarters at 30 and the dot on the dice at 40. I was doing pie plates at 40 a few weeks ago.
THANK YOU!
awesome video, this is the bow I'm going to go with also so nice to see how others set their bow up prior.
Thanks for the awesome content and I would really like to hang out with mfjj an Dan !!!!!
Just got the same paper tear through the same bow. Tried flipping the top hats on top cam and got the opposite tear. Did you use different top hats than what was from the factory or just had to switch them around?
Many thanks if you get around to answering my question. Love your stuff and your new stabilizers are freaking awesome!
I learned so much that I didn’t know from this video thank you
First off I love your videos. Just getting into bows. The frustrating part I have on your videos is that you review and score the bows but I'm not finding a spreadsheet or anything showing all the bows or 2024 bows or some sort of category for your scoring in one place that I can see side by side. I have to watch every video to see the scores. If you have that on your site or something will you please let me know? Great build video. Thank you.
I'll be in Spokane this May and will find your archery shop. I plan to turkey hunt Washington again. Wondering if I'd be welcome to watch you or your staff set up a bow? Heck, I may buy one just to watch "you" tune a bow.
Love these bow builds. Just wish I could see what’s going on a little better. I watch listen and have adopted Josh’s way of doing things. I believe he truly knows his stuff when it comes to bows. Please please please try tog at this stuff more close up so I can see it. I’m sure that’s a pain and I know you can’t please everyone. Just decided his way is the way I wanna do things. The videos out there are just slightly tough to see the fine details. Thanks
Mathews makes a adapter for quiver to set it out so rest works properly?
Thanks
Can’t wait till my lyft comes in 🏹🎯🏆👍💨✅
Keep em coming.
Hey MFJJ, do you ever tie your Hamskea cable to the yoke? I have mine to the yoke on V3x33 and VXR31.5. Is there a reason not too?
MFJJ the way you do the cable for the rest. Can that be done on a phase 4 as well ?
Video request!
Do one with the 33” also why you chose which accessories and please do a video with a one piece vs two piece mathews quiver mounted differences
Super vidéo, dommage qu’il n’y ai pas de zoom sur les montage ( D-Loop, noeud, repose flèche….).
Par contre je n’ai pas compris pourquoi le bout de corde pour corriger le test papier !!
Merci
You Rock, way informative thanks
Always toss out the Hamkea Rest cord football and install the EZ glide.
Worth the 10$
It's ridiculous how they nickel and dime you when you're already paying good money upfront for their product. Their "EZ-Glide" should just come with it. It can't cost any more to make than the football that comes with it.
I have the Hybrid Hunter Pro. I was a crappy design, and the spring got all stretched out. They want me to pay ANOTHER $49.99 for their so-called "Conversion kit" which addresses the product defect that they engineered into it in the first place. Something that they should've offered for free for previously-purchased product, and which they should include as the default configuration, going forward.
It's literally pennies for them to produce the 'fix', and they're charging through the nose to make it how it should have been from the start.
I said screw that, and just used some 1/8" surgical tubing, knotted up with the drive cable looped through each knot. It does the same thing as their $50 "conversion kit", and it cost me about $0.20 in surgical tubing, which I already have a roll of because I use that stuff for SCUBA gear, and lots of other things around the house.
Hamskea makes a nice rest; once you address the design flaws, it runs great. I'm going to drive this one until the wheels fall off.
But I'll be damned if they ever get another dime from me. Their principles, as a company, just seem completely out of whack to me. I get that they need to make money on the front end, which is why I was willing to pay top dollar for the product in the first place. But when they also want to milk their customer base on the back end, to make things right with their own design flaws, that's where I jump off and won't look back. There are plenty of other great options on the market that just work correctly out of the box without having to pay for a bunch of tiny little extras that slowly creep the end-price up and up and up; and that's where I'll spend my money in the future.
Is that bcy24 for the Hamskea cord as well!?
It would be interesting to see the 33, though it's similar. Maybe more interesting would be the Hoyt since it's potentially more challenging to move the cams preciously
When you line the square to the bolt hole, is it center to center?
I was hoping this was the video where you get a bow ready to hunt in one day
Any chance you recorded playing with the tophats to get rid of the first tear?
Doesn't a d loop that short create torque on the string when it's at full draw using a handheld release that's twisting it 45 degrees? For an index it won't matter but for a handheld my thinking was it shouldn't pressure the string
Wonder the same thing, a local wiz always sets them up fairly long. At most you'll only get 1/2" of draw length is that worth it to shoot a more unforgiving setup? or does it really not matter?
The bow wizard
I’m not sure I understand what the cord (with the extra for a spare loop) is for that goes from the lower limb to the rest.
Okay here is a real challenge. I would love to see a score difference between the flagship bow of the year against the budget bow of the year at 50 yards. If done honestly we could put a value on each point. It will make a lot of people mad but I would love to see it.
Chris Bee did a video on that. Give 'er a look.
@@10flyingdutchman I watch that video twice now. It was a not real test. The arrows where different and to be honest they are both Matthew's bows. It was a 7 point difference and a price difference of 1200 bow to a 359 dollar bow. How much is each point worth? I believe it was more like 3000 dollars bow vs a 600 dollar bow with all the extras. It would be awsome to see the difference in the top 2 top budget top flagship and let us know the price per point. Thank you for replying.
Tim done a good video comparing the hoyt vtm against the bear adapt!.
@@nathangroseclose2071 thank you I'm going to check it out
When you get back to anchor, will twist of loop cause problems
With it being such a short loop, I mean
What length bar did he go with?
Easy breezy
Hey MFJJ how about selling the plans on how to build your draw board
very nice bow,, will you build me one?
What diameter serving are you using to tie in your peep?
I mentioned this in the previous video...Keith your grip is too deep on the OnneX C, back off one set of knuckles so your hand is more flat. It gives you a more consistent anchor point and it moves the head of the release more in line with the string vs pulling the head away from your face.
I'll try that, thank you for the recommendation.
@@jkeithhowe It's a Dudley thing ☺ He is very adamant about drawing and anchoring with as flat of a hand as possible. My guess it will feel very different and possibly a little more difficult at first but like John mentions if you draw too deep on your grip as you relax slightly after your anchor the release now moves and your anchor point literally moves.
It looks like it’s hanging off the end of the release. Can you send me a picture I would like to do so. Lost a Stan heavy metal last year. It was an expensive oops
You should do a Hoyt rx8 ultra
I want to know how he has his release attached to the wrist sling. It sounds like. Innes clicker.
I used an old release wrist strap and rigged it to my Stan click
How much are they going for? I'm gonna upgrade
1300$ ish
Love your vids and that you are teaching the archery community but by god get a different camera man or teach him how to video these things!
Can someone explain what MFJJ means by 13/16 off the riser? Is he talking about the distance from the side of the riser to the launcher arm?
From the inside edge of the riser to the centerline of your arrow. This is centershot in most brand name bows, not including newer Bears, though, they can run 7/8 to 3/4 depending on cam lean and tune.
@@scottdavis2133
Ah, makes sense
Thanks man
@@thenameiwantedwastaken you're welcome
That guy has a sense of humor as a stone!😂
Unrelated to this video. Have you heard about the new Athens bows having a cam tuning system just like Bowtech? I know making cam tuning easier needs to be a goal for everyone. But this sure looks like a 1 to 1 rip off.
Maybe ask athens about it instead of someone who hasn't even done a review of it.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 maybe I asked someone who knows more about bows, bow companies and bow technology than you and I combined most likely. I've seen Athens comments when people ask about it and they say it's new technology and it works differently. But it uses an Allen wrench to move the axle from side to side. Which is the same as Bowtech. I asked the question in hopes that if he hadn't seen it he would want to get his hands on one or at least look into it.
starts at 8am hmm
So his top stop is hitting first and you choose to shorten the bottom cable? Lol my man what are you doing. The paper still looked like ass as well.
33 please sir
Trying to sell the bow
Great vlog Josh and your friend there did a really great job setting up his new bow. Congrats buddy!! Josh just one thing to point out and say is that I do not hate Mathews that I would not consider shooting them I just do not like that everyone thinks that they are the best bow out there and they sure do the most marketing out there than any other bow brand just to push their products and in my opinion there are just as good bows and maybe even better than Mathews out there. Each to their own. I shoot Hoyt and I love the product and people bitch and belly ack about how much they are and the tunning capability. At the end of the day is that sometimes you have to give up something to make the product better and that is what Hoyt has done. So then Josh what is your honest opinion on Hoyt bows because we all know that you just rave about Mathews like everyone else does. And also why do you guys in the USA get all offended when someone asks you how does a manufacturer pay you!!!
Have you thought that maybe he actually does like Mathews as much as he says he does?? And maybe so does everybody else who isn’t sponsored by Mathews? Bows are just like ford/ram/chevy trucks. Everybody has their opinion on which one they think is best. Let’s just agree that we all aren’t going to agree on what we think is the best. And most importantly, why do you care so much about his opinion on Mathews? It obviously hasn’t swayed your opinion to switch from Hoyt so why complain about it?? Just my 2 cents…whether you cared to hear it or not.
@@jonzimmerman6203 Buddy I really do not think that your getting the message here, what I am trying to say is every time someone does reviews on bow brands it is always Mathews bows are the best but they are not to think that they are personally I think that there is bows out there that are just as good out there or even better and why would I change my RX-8 one of the best carbon bows out there did you hear me CARBON buddy not aluminum. Sounds like you are one of those Mathews fish out there and that is all that you will buy and shoot how do they pay you buddy like I said Mathews probably has the best marketing out there in the business for sure and all the power to them!!!
Seems like some people just want to complain because he's not going on about your favorite bow so you're getting butt hurt. Shoot what you like and don't worry about everyone else. Beautiful thing about us humans we all like and dislike different things. How boring the world would be if we all liked the exact same things. Just my two cents, take it for what you will.
@@TONY4563084 Tony buddy please don't preach to me I do not need a priest to tell me what is good and not good. The archery world just revolves around Mathews and everything else is garbage face it Tony you know that I am 100% right face it!!!
Buddy, you sound like a ridiculous Hoyt fan boy who’s upset your 2k bare bow didn’t receive top honors from MFJJ. And who cares that your bow is carbon, sure as hell doesn’t make it any better than an aluminum bow. It most definitely makes it a lot more expensive of a bow though…that’s a fact! I do know what you’re getting at. My whole point was who gives a F what somebody thinks about Mathews. Obviously you do though….enough to write a long comment to pout about it. I’m just calling you out because you sound like a child. And for the record, I own 2 Bowtechs and a Mathews bow. Happy with all of them.
if his grip was better and more consistent it prolly wouldve been nails
Keith has a personality of a
Stone!😂 also Bows are like hoes Saying, Mathews makes the best bow this year is very objective! 😊
That’s the edited version, wow 😮
Let’s do the 33!!!! Lol wishful thinking
👇 hattas gonna hate
Hahahahaha
dang the video is aweful is that cause its live?
Now that commenting is available, I will post here as well.
Anyone that has actually been following these channels/ MFJJ, Tim Connor, and their podcast since they started them would know this and should actually care and call them out for the dishonesty.
They were giving away 2023 flag ship bows from Matthew’s, Hoyt, bowtech, etc..(there were like 10 bows) and that was over 6 months ago. They said they were going to call people and had people fill out forms online with their personal information.
MFJJ said he would be calling people and having them come in to make videos of the bow and him building them for people and it was contingent on people being able to drive or fly to him so he could make the videos and give them the bows. He also said they would be given away before hunting season so people could use them and here we are, hunting season is over and he never brings it up or talks about it again.
Love the channels and love watching them but seems pretty scummy to not go through with something like that or even have a follow up video even though you took peoples information🤷♂️💀
Have you ever gotten busy and had to put things on the back burner? I know I have. Just from watching his videos, you can see he’s a busy guy. I’m sure giving away his products and free time to make videos for non paying clients was put on hold for a bit until he slows down some.
In a Podcast there was a mention on how they have to redo the giveaways. Time and logistics being the major factors…especially time. And I was one of the many who put in our info but did it bother me that it didn’t happen? No. MFJJ is one of the most busiest people trying to get everyone situated in archery whether you’re a noob or a seasoned archer. He is also human and has a normal life like us. Be grateful he and his team can even provide us youtube content for us to enjoy outside of his primary business (SVA). Just keep shooting. United and not divided 🤙🏽
I said something before really just asking what was going on with it. its free shit he paid for so im not gonna complain it didnt happen when he said. he is real busy for sure. I also gave my info and had to make accounts cause I dont use any of the social media stuff but did for a chance at a new bow. I also see the flip side if you say your gonna do something maybe just keep folks informed which he did in the podcast..
Well you just disqualified yourself.
I always enjoy the banter and innuendo. Funny shit!
Spend $5k to get a new bow set up these days. By next year its outdated already
Absurd!!! These arent guns, computers, vehicles...
A lot of what they call innovations I just don't care that much about, I don't mind them, but they really aren't all that. The machined in pic rails and especially the machined in dovetail stuff, while nice just isn't worth the big$. I would rather see a riser drilled and tapped for a removable pic rail if they continue down this road. have give props to the light weight that Hoyt and Matthews did this year though. However imo the adjustability/tuneability innovations that bowtech and elite have been doing, way more impressive than the integrated accessory stuff, if either or both of them start doing the weight reduction they would be hard to even compare to anything else.
My Halon 32 was made in 2015 and they just changed the cam in 2023 soooooo. The bows change very slowly actually. Which is why I’m going to shoot the Lift and see if it’s worth buying. And the Bow costs $1400 and I already have an extra rest and sight. That’s cheap for what the Lift took to make and develop IMO
@@Thedudeabides803exactly this and it only went up $30 from the PHASE 4.
I think the Lift is perfect for girls. My daughter complains how heavy bows are…. So it makes me think it’s a great bow for female hunters …
Everything else as far as specs, it’s very similar to
The other brands…
@@2010elmonstruoit’s stupid light. The LIFT 33 with both stabilizers was still lighter than my V3X 29 in the same format 😂🤣😂
camera man sucks bro. I couldn't see anything being done.
Junk