Thanks for the positive approach, such a relief among the hand waving. All the rage is lame, and I say that as someone who recently sold a bunch of cards to afford an expensive Dockside. The RC are good, thoughtful people with more experience and data than almost anyone. Got to respect their courage making the call. Now I'm going to make a little picture frame for my Goblin and hang him on my wall.
Hey! Thanks for the kind words! I try to keep everything positive on the channel. Magic has always been an escape for me, and I never want that escape to become a stressed or filled with negative feelings. ❤️
Commander has enough auto include cards to fill every mono color deck already, getting rid of dockside extortionist is wonderful. Especially when there's so many good fun cards in magic the gathering but you don't see any of them because *there's too many auto includes.*
@@joshcurry8952 they have a ton of impact on casual and that’s why they got banned straight from the rules committee. CEDH players can rule 0 it in but casual pods are tired of getting stomped out by people fishing for free wins. Nothings stopping CEDH pods from playing these cards it’s rules just to stop pub stomping.
@@lionspridegaming6280 This will not prevent you from getting pub stomped. dickheads will always be dickheads. you could rule 0 them out easier than they can be ruled in. expecting everyone to play the same way you want to play is selfish.
I think they've centered the Sol Ring discussion on the wrong part of the reason to leave it alone. The real reason is Redundancy. Sol Ring is slightly less efficient than Mana crypt, but now that it can't be played alongside Crypt and Lotus, its turn 1 explosive threat potential is GREATLY muted. I think it's fair to estimate that a sizeable portion, maybe even a slight majority, of the time a Sol Ring comes down on turn 1, the player can't make a meaningful play that same turn because they no longer have access to colored mana. Artifact decks can still have explosive starts with their sol ring, since that's kinda supposed to be their game plan and they have specifically constructed a deck with minimal colored pips in costs. I think this is a much more compelling reason than just "it's the spirit of the format".
Additionally, all of the bans that did happen significantly reduce the price barrier of the format, and Sol Ring is not problematic at all in this area.
1. This helps nobody, these cards don’t see play in casual and the RC already said they don’t want to enforce the ban list just because of cEDH yet that’s exactly what they did 2. This hurts cEDH tremendously because now fringe decks can’t compete at all with Rog Si and blue farm 3. This hurts the whole community cuz now nobody trusts wizards or the RC 4. This is driving an even bigger wedge between the cEDH and EDH community, and if cEDH and EDH split then people will keep pushing the limits of EDH until it’s just diet cEDH 5. This honestly seems like a heated response to the cEDH RC that was formed last month but didn’t seem to go anywhere as of yet, which obviously isn’t a place bans should be coming from 6. This fucking KILLED LGS’ who were struggling to sell certain commander product, and now that the chase cards of some of those sets are banned they just have useless product collecting dust on their shelves
@@gypsydancer1847 in my 4 years of playing Magic I’ve only ever come across one pub stomper, my group bullied him out of our pod with better decks after the first game and after a while everyone in the shop was wary of him and nobody played with him. Magic and its community police itself, it’s up to players to actually have a rule zero conversation and if someone lies during that conversation and pub stomps it’s up to players to remove that person from their pod. All of these bans are solved with rule zero and people standing up for themselves when they play against a deck they’re not happy playing against, they didn’t need to burn millions of dollars out of peoples wallets in a single day OUT OF NOWHERE for something that always could’ve and should’ve been solved by the community itself
I hate to break it to you but not everything is about your little cEDH "format". The vast majority of EDH players have no interest in it, and the RC balances in the interest of the casual EDH player playing some chill rounds at their LGS. The RC seems to live rent-free in the heads of cEDH players, while the RC probably doesn't give many thoughts to them haha.
boo, these cards are only good if you draw them early, you got 99 cards, the table will target you, if it was 1v1 then okay but why keep sol? i wish they reprinted these cards into the ground before they banned them so people who dropped 100+ on these didnt get screwed
"Fellow UA-camrs, be careful. This guy is the leader of the rules committee-don't trust him."
True! You caught me. How did you know?!
Thanks for the positive approach, such a relief among the hand waving. All the rage is lame, and I say that as someone who recently sold a bunch of cards to afford an expensive Dockside. The RC are good, thoughtful people with more experience and data than almost anyone. Got to respect their courage making the call. Now I'm going to make a little picture frame for my Goblin and hang him on my wall.
Hey! Thanks for the kind words! I try to keep everything positive on the channel. Magic has always been an escape for me, and I never want that escape to become a stressed or filled with negative feelings. ❤️
Commander has enough auto include cards to fill every mono color deck already, getting rid of dockside extortionist is wonderful. Especially when there's so many good fun cards in magic the gathering but you don't see any of them because *there's too many auto includes.*
These bans heavily effect Cedh. Not sure if you're aware of that.
I said I wasn’t sure in my video. I’m not a cEDH player or channel but for casual I’m happy about them
@@uscgckatwalker they do. And they have no impact on casual at all. So pointless all around.
@@joshcurry8952Objectively wrong
@@joshcurry8952 they have a ton of impact on casual and that’s why they got banned straight from the rules committee. CEDH players can rule 0 it in but casual pods are tired of getting stomped out by people fishing for free wins. Nothings stopping CEDH pods from playing these cards it’s rules just to stop pub stomping.
@@lionspridegaming6280 This will not prevent you from getting pub stomped. dickheads will always be dickheads. you could rule 0 them out easier than they can be ruled in. expecting everyone to play the same way you want to play is selfish.
I think they've centered the Sol Ring discussion on the wrong part of the reason to leave it alone. The real reason is Redundancy. Sol Ring is slightly less efficient than Mana crypt, but now that it can't be played alongside Crypt and Lotus, its turn 1 explosive threat potential is GREATLY muted. I think it's fair to estimate that a sizeable portion, maybe even a slight majority, of the time a Sol Ring comes down on turn 1, the player can't make a meaningful play that same turn because they no longer have access to colored mana. Artifact decks can still have explosive starts with their sol ring, since that's kinda supposed to be their game plan and they have specifically constructed a deck with minimal colored pips in costs. I think this is a much more compelling reason than just "it's the spirit of the format".
Additionally, all of the bans that did happen significantly reduce the price barrier of the format, and Sol Ring is not problematic at all in this area.
Jeweled lotus can be played in a jank deck in legacy. Not good in any way, but is not completely useless. I want to buy one for a commander cube
Screw nadu! Crypt was ok and a was lotus but I understand the banns and it boosts the power of all my decks.
1. This helps nobody, these cards don’t see play in casual and the RC already said they don’t want to enforce the ban list just because of cEDH yet that’s exactly what they did
2. This hurts cEDH tremendously because now fringe decks can’t compete at all with Rog Si and blue farm
3. This hurts the whole community cuz now nobody trusts wizards or the RC
4. This is driving an even bigger wedge between the cEDH and EDH community, and if cEDH and EDH split then people will keep pushing the limits of EDH until it’s just diet cEDH
5. This honestly seems like a heated response to the cEDH RC that was formed last month but didn’t seem to go anywhere as of yet, which obviously isn’t a place bans should be coming from
6. This fucking KILLED LGS’ who were struggling to sell certain commander product, and now that the chase cards of some of those sets are banned they just have useless product collecting dust on their shelves
It's funny that you think "casual" people don't play these cards. And who trusts Hasbro, haha
this.
@@gypsydancer1847 just look up the stats on webpages like edhrec. while not perfect they give you a pretty good rule of thumb...
@@gypsydancer1847 in my 4 years of playing Magic I’ve only ever come across one pub stomper, my group bullied him out of our pod with better decks after the first game and after a while everyone in the shop was wary of him and nobody played with him. Magic and its community police itself, it’s up to players to actually have a rule zero conversation and if someone lies during that conversation and pub stomps it’s up to players to remove that person from their pod. All of these bans are solved with rule zero and people standing up for themselves when they play against a deck they’re not happy playing against, they didn’t need to burn millions of dollars out of peoples wallets in a single day OUT OF NOWHERE for something that always could’ve and should’ve been solved by the community itself
I hate to break it to you but not everything is about your little cEDH "format". The vast majority of EDH players have no interest in it, and the RC balances in the interest of the casual EDH player playing some chill rounds at their LGS.
The RC seems to live rent-free in the heads of cEDH players, while the RC probably doesn't give many thoughts to them haha.
Thank god
boo, these cards are only good if you draw them early, you got 99 cards, the table will target you, if it was 1v1 then okay but why keep sol? i wish they reprinted these cards into the ground before they banned them so people who dropped 100+ on these didnt get screwed
What am i gonna do with my Temur deck? Play regular busted Temur? Waaa
>causal
Good catch! lol spelling is hard
lol such a good satire title. Nobody actually thinks these were good bans
lol they were actually good bans
they were great bans
Incorrect. The only one that anyone will agree on is Nadu. Crypt and lotus are just fucking stupid.
@@joshcurry8952 skill issue it seems
@@wiimotecactus3124 yeah I agree. If you need to ban non-problematic cards because people are crying about it there is a skill issue.
I smell a class action lawsuit coming.
That’s unhinged