@Jack Peoples there both not Black because 2%African is Nothing they have way more European and maybe middle eastern than African there not Black DNA alone tills us that's Like me saying am European Win I got at least 88% African So am African not white there White not black that 2% is nothing
@@bolayul291 BUT with white people, there is a discrepancy between them having a little bit or even as much as 15% African DNA and black people having as much as 30% white DNA. For the white people with that their own people will start racially harassing them and calling them "nigg**s". Look it up. For black people, white people will say, "No. You're not Scottish or English because of that. You're still black." Because most of us have female ancestors who were raped by some kind of Europeans, in multiple ethnicities. So, for the most part it's the social construct that is so ingrained in America that people go by.
@@doggydeeds that's not true at all. Neanderthals were in Europe long before out of Africa migration and in modern Europeans the dna admixture is found with the Asian population but not the Sub-Saharan African.
@@doggydeeds without the risk of repeating myself, there's zero evidence of African DNA in the origin of modern Europeans. The admixture and genome sequencing along with migration patterns have no connection to Africa.
@@doggydeeds people get confused because we see race as mostly the outward appearence but there are a lot of other things that code for non visible phenotypes. you could be 50% black but look less black than the average biracial because of this.
I was going to join 23andMe then I found it wasn't a dating site. But then I found it could help me with my family tree, so again it was kind of a dating site.
@@fayguled900 You should take that issue up with 23 and Me who breaks down genetics by North African and sub Saharan African (basically black African). I've seen a couple of videos by JR now mentioning in jest that he is "black" because he came back with African on his DNA test. My point is if that is North African (which it likely is since he's Italian) he is not black.
the Italians mixed with north africa in roman times before arabs came to north africa, they were "black" and most north africans today are mix of arab and moors (black). people dividing north africa from "sub saharan" fail to realize that very recently in human history the sahara was a savanna like east africa is now. and it wasnt the physical and cultural barrier it is today. 23 and me words it this way because they know most people are ignorant to these things. their no such thing as a "north african" race there is arabs and moors and most people are mix of the two. the moors are descended from west africans and arabs descended from east africans, infact all people from outside of africa descended from east african. and the mixed peoples from spain, portulgal and italy are moors/black not arabs.
The real issue is that any DNA testing depends almost entirely on how many people are in their base. With something like 23 and Me, it keeps expanding the more people who participate, thus enlarging their base. The good thing is that they keep updating their base and inform people who took the test a long time ago. They send you updated results.
@Bob Watters no what they are doing is stock piling people so when shit hits the fan they have a population base they can start cloning to insure the survival of our race! Think about that for a minute
So there is an interesting thing that happens where the genes of the parents mix: they have 2 sets of chromosomes which they got from their parents too (one from mother and one from father) . These 2 sets of chromosomes mix and you may get 10% from the father of one parent and 90% from the mother while these test search for specific genes which might not encompass everything you got from your ancestors. So yeah that's a very important point. But to say that the ancestry is mostly irrelevant to the factual world would put their business down
When you inherit genes, you get half from your mother and half from your father. Each time this split is made you randomly get a selection of half your father's genes and half your mother's. It's a bit like shuffling cards and dealing out a certain number. Yes you might have ancestors from a certain place, but you didn't get dealt those particular cards, even if your sibling did. Over time with continuous shuffling of genes over generations it is possible for one ancestors genes to be completely removed.
It always astounds me when people get their DNA back and it’s a life changing event. It totally changes the way they act. Do you guys remember the DNA commercial that “traded in his kelt for lederhosen”? As if somehow he was now able to tap into some kind of ancestral zen and (select) become a new identity. I think this says a lot about the psychology of identity, but even more about mass marketing manipulating that psychology. ...all I know is that culture is taught not genetically passed.
Isn't it the UN? I was pretty sure it's the UN who's created a database filled with the genetic codes of children taken by a heel-prick blood sample at birth.
What people don't understand is that 23andMe genetic ancestry is with "50% confidence." The only thing they can tell you with "90% confidence" is that your ancestors are probably European. So if it says you're 1% this or that take it with a grain of salt. It's more entertainment than anything else.
@@jadeeybaby 23andMe is facing more than 30 lawsuits after a data breach last year exposed personal information from nearly 7 million customers' profiles. Valued at $6 billion in 2021 when it went public, 23andMe now risks being delisted from the Nasdaq as its stock continues to trade below $1 a share.Feb 12, 2024
@@jadeeybaby SF hackers allegedly target 23andMe for data on customers of Ashkenazi Jewish and Chinese heritages Bay City News 3 months ago The lawsuit says that sensitive information on a million Ashkenazi Jews and 350,000 customers of Chinese heritage was obtained by hackers and offered for sale on the dark web, raising legitimate fears “for the personal safety and security of customers” in those groups and creating the risk of “subjecting them to ethnic targeting, discrimination, and harassment.”
My great grandmother was from Sicily as well. Its a shame I'm only 1/8 Sicilian; because it'd be so cool to identify as Sicilian American! I've been learning some Sicilian words
I know what he was trying to say. I read a similar article explaining how the testing works. It is quite complicated. Let's say you and your full biological sibling both take the test, but your results are quite different. How does that happen if you have the same parents? We get 50% DNA from each parent. Your 50% might have contained a lot of your mom's Irish heritage, while the 50% that your sibling got may only contain a small bit of her Irish genes. And when you consider that the same process has happened for generations before you, it makes sense that there is genetic lineage in your family tree that does not show up in your DNA. So, you could have an ancestor that was full blood Cherokee, for example, but you just didn't get any of those particular genes, or only 1 or 2% of them trickled down to you.
Exactly, while we get 50% of our DNA from our parents, it's theoretically possible (although highly improbable) to get 0% from one of your grandparents.
@@intuitiv3taur3an91 You'd still only get 50% from each parents, so regardless of sibling or not, you may still not inherit certain genes from specific ancestors
@@intuitiv3taur3an91 that variable is irrelevant to recombination of autosomal DNA in you. You only get 50% exactly from mother and 50% exactly from father. Because you inherit your parents DNA directly from them to you, because they’re YOUR parents. However, you inherit DNA from your grandparents INDIRECTLY via YOUR parents, not directly from your grantsparents to you, and because your grandparents’ DNA is randomly given to you VIA your parents, therefore no person is ever born with 25% from each of their four grandparents. That randomness is what reshuffles your grandparents’ percentage in you and sometimes even within two generation you might already have no DNA from one of your great grandparents. It’s unlikely to happen so fast but it is possible. Usually by the fourth generation it’s more likely for one great-great-grandparents’ DNA to have totally been washed out of you. So while you are 100 parts you, and you’re exactly 50:50 parts made of YOUR two parents, instead of being 25:25:25:25 parts made of your grandparents (because it’s via your parents), you might randomly be 24:26:30:20 parts made of your grandparents equals 100 parts you. And so on and so forth with every subsequent generation. You might therefore randomly be 11:14:10:15:9:16:0:25 of each of your eight respective great-grandparents VIA your parents. Notice in this example, one of your great-grandparent’s DNA has been washed out of you and you have none of their DNA even though they’re still you’re great-grandparent. Meanwhile, you have randomly inherited the amount of DNA from one great-grandparent as though he or she were one generation closer to you (a grandparent).
@@alpheendominationif isn’t misleading lol we share the same dna because of the first person on earth how ever when it comes to ancestry (from parents side)we aren’t the same your most likely 90 percent European im around 88 percent African and a little bit Indian/European in me but other then that we don’t share the same dna…
@@Kingchasethebag-yeah So you're saying that we share the same DNA and then you're saying we don't. Almost all of our DNA is identical, it is only a very small percentage which differentiates us. I think you are misunderstanding how ancestry is represented in DNA, there is no such thing as certain alleles tied to certain places, instead certain mutations have become common across certain regions and so can link a person to that region. However all those variants that we look at are contained in the very small percentage that is unique, as a result there is no reason to test the entire genome for something like an ancestry test. And is therefore misleading to discredit tests for that reason.
What he's trying to say is that you inherit chromosomes from each parent but not equally. Your sister and you could have much different ancestry readings due to you inheriting more from dad and her more from mom.
@Bob Watters absolutely and completely false. do your research. thats actually exactly what occurs. Even twins will have different results on and entry tests based on the DNA. you do NOT receive exact equal portions from parent
The problem with these dna sites is they only have a small sample size that they base their algorithms off of. What Steve is saying too is that these tests only look for known traces within their specific samples and they can miss things very easily. I just watched a Market Place video where these two identical twins took a test and they had different results.. also they took the tests through 5 different companies and each company varied widely on their results.
I was gonna try the gene test but some weird sh*t will probably pop saying I'm half extraterrestrial and potato Next thing I'll be in a cage at area 51. Think I'll just order a pizza.
I think the notion he’s grasping for is that a particular ancestor, representing a specific ethnic group, could be so far removed from you chronologically that the bloodline has been diluted by the time it gets to you. The more distant the lineage, the less likely it is to show up in your results.
Partial understanding is always a problem with newer science becoming main stream. Bad analogies and super simplified explanations always lead to gross misunderstandings
But that's Joe Rogans job. He tries to understand things with his battered 'roided up ape brain and then explaining it is even harder because he has the vocabulary and intellect of a child.
Nah my entire family got 23 and me tests 3 years ago for Christmas and my siblings are identical twins and theirs came back the exact same percentages in every regard while mine was different by 50% mixed up compared to theirs.
Some twins get different results all family will have differences in there dna make up rather its on ethnicity or matches not everyone carries the same kind of genes as the other for example my cousin matches people her sisters don't and they match people she don't
@Pam Graham lol 😆 why do African Americans believe made up history. Ask actual Africans and they will tell you that they aren't north africans/middle eastern
@Pam Graham it is referred to as the mena region www.investopedia.com/terms/m/middle-east-and-north-africa-mena.asp Read and find out. Sorry meant afro carribean in your case. Look the moors are not jamaican. This is absolutely absurd. Jamaica has a lot going for it. Beautiful people, culture, athletic but moors no
The interviewer is right to say that the picture might be incomplete. I've done 23andme. The company says that beyond our 2nd great grandparents we don't inherit DNA from all our ancestors. My brother did the test, we were recognized as brothers and share 56% of our DNA. However, his results were quite different from mine, eg. I'm 2% Italian yet he has no Italian DNA but he still has some Italian ancestry.
@@outtathawoods Siblings usually have around 50%. Only identical twins have close to100%. It's common for siblings to have very different mixes and for one to inherit things that another didn't. 23andme correctly identified us as full brothers.
@@Jbreeze3878 My favorite part of that scene is when Hopper says "Can I ugh......Can I have one of those Chesterfields now?" The opera music fades in and he asked the question. He knew he was dead. So he said F it. I'm going out in an insulting blaze of glory.
Mate, he did it to cause his death. It was a suicide move, to make the dude so angry he would stop asking him to rat out his son, not torture him and just kill him quickly.
Here’s what he is struggling very much at saying: The passing of ancestry is very much like the shuffling and cutting of a deck of cards. If every human is a 23 card deck of colorful cards and say your grandmother had 10 blue cards, 10 red cards, and 3 purple cards. Let’s also say for example that purple cards represent Irish ancestry. If her deck is being cut in half and fused with half your grandfathers deck of 23 cards to create your father, then there’s a good chance zero purple cards were passed to your father. Now let’s say 1 purple card did get passed to your father against the slim odds. When your fathers deck gets cut in half to be fused with half of your mothers deck of cards to create you there’s EVEN slimmer chance that you get a purple card. So if you do get zero purple cards it could appear that you’re 0% Irish even though your father and grandmother would show Irish on an ancestry test. So in short ancestry can get washed out just do to odds. Disclaimer: this also assumes the shuffling of chromosomes is completely random. In actuality there are some phenotypes that favor others and vice versa that will skews the odds a bit. Additionally, like was mentioned in the video, it also comes down to the data base your DNA testing company has. For example if they’ve never seen your specific type of purple card before then they won’t know to categorize it as Irish.
I think you may be oversimplifying the complexity of testing. There’s so much code in DNA that can connect to, let’s say Scottish and having red hair, or the timing in which you can grow a beard, or the size of K9 teeth, or if your body lacks an alcohol enzyme thus relating you to Asian decent etc. Even with a smaller data base, variables can be plugged into the system to train the algorithm. Great point though Joshua !
Yes. DNA companies play the guessing game with their DNA results. Just watched marketplace where identical twins sent DNA to 5 different companies and results should be identical and they were not. In the end it’s more of a novelty item and not to take results seriously.
I did a 23andMe and had 5% Italian and 1.5% North African. My heritage came in at 6.5 North African. My great grandad was from Malta. Just shows how the regions can very
DNA tests are extremely accurate if you wish to discover who you share DNA with recently. They're 100% accurate at identifying your recent extended family. Ethnicity breakdowns are nothing more than correlations with present-day reference populations. The idea is that as more data is added to the reference populations the more accurate the data will become, but think about how they created the reference populations. They went to a part of the world, took DNA samples and just ASKED people who their ancestors were. Of course they have bad data. In addition to that problem, ethnicity breakdowns vary wildly among immediate relatives because everyone doesn't inherit the same genes, so some people who are related might get the Iberian peninsula genes while someone else gets Scandinavian genes.
True when finding family yes but certain tribes in certain races don't always have enough full bloods to pin point every person's shared dna with those groups and I took 3 test where it should show that they couldn't read about a quarter of my dna.
@@Elias_Truth the "eye opening" thing to me was that 23&me says all of the DNA results are from ancestors no more than 300-450 years ago, the small percentages represent someone of full blood from that time frame.
That's very common, I did mine and been holding on to a secret for a couple of years now. I debate the merit of exposing what I know I just don't see any good that come from it after 30yrs. The Ironic part is I have a brother who we discovered each other's existence at the same time, we're actually bonded by that secret and discuss it among our selves often, he's in the exact same situation as far as revealing. It's the weirdest thing. Because our parents have the same secret, they just don't know that we know and know each other. So I guess we inherit the keeping secret trait I dunno it's confusing..
If your origins are Sicily there is a VERY good chance you have some African blood in you. Everyone from the Romans to the Moors brought thousands of Africans into Sicily. This true for the rest of the Mediterranean bordering countries. Spain was nearly entirely Moorish at one point in time. Do some history before freaking out about your ancestry!
The problem with 23andMe is that it only looks at your genetic heritage in the form of nationalities and a few prominent groups. This doesn't reflect actual genetic diversity and how anthropology actually looks at genetic histories. For example a person from India would most likely be 100% Indian(Broadly South Asian as they call it). This doesn't reflect the actual genetic heritage of the person and just restricts it to telling where your ancestors lived which are now defined by different national borders.
I lived with my great great aunt who was 96-99 yrs old thru the years we lived with her. She was born before the Titanic sank and passed away well after the millennium
I have no clue who i am who i am related to where i belong since i never knew my dad so many family secrets on my moms side Always felt disconnected from the people i grew up with never fit in .......been better off being raised by a pack of wolves
Im in the same boat,family secrets moms side, never seen my father. I kinda was figuring i might have alien DNA. It's possible. Maybe you're an alien too?
01:45 Sicily was colonised by the Greeks, Phoenicians, Latins (Romans), Arabs & Berbers, Scandinavians (Vikings), French Vikings (Normans), Spanish, and several other peoples. It's actually very logical, as Sicily is literally located in the middle of the Mediterranean sea.
DNA test results are entirely dependent on how large the sampling is. As more and more people take the test, 23 and Me and other testers, will have a much wider selection to add to your profile. The other thing is that a number like 2 or 3% coming from Africa or where ever is almost certain the further the test goes back in time.
1 chromosome of each pair ALWAYS comes from each parent (barring chromosomal nondisjunction which is an extreme error in meiosis). If you are directly descended from someone, you will possess genetic material from that person. This doesn't mean these companies can identify everything, though.
One thing about DNA results that isn't mentioned is that they change over time . The more people do these tests the more data they have and your data could change literally over night , not drastic but enough to be mentioned . So the 1.6 African could literally be 0 in less than a month
@Picklefart69 How is the comment not accurate? I did my DNA test and it changed? Are you living my life for me ? No I didn't get any e-mails.....What are you talking about? "I’m pretty sure it’s mentioned.. people get emails about updates who have used these services I’m sure it changes from company to company"
@Picklefart69 Also no one told me it would change over time when I signed up. You are arguing semantics not facts, now I get it, hence the confusion...
I doubt it would be 0% if any presence of "racial other" is present. Be that Native, European, African, or Asian origin. The percentages might change, but it appears easier to differentiate the races genetically from what I've read than to differentiate ethnicities within a race.
To answer Joe's question, 23andMe is simply not a very accurate tool. The company only sequences a small window of your genome that relies on probabilistic determinants, due to the low cost of the product. If you want to have your entire genome sequenced this can be done for about 3-4 x the cost of companies like 23andMe, which are sanctioned by a medical professional and it will provide you with your complete genetic makeup.
From what I'm hearing 23andMe is not the most accurate with their results. You can upload the raw DNA info to third-party websites to get better information and find genetic matches on family tree sites.
I'm a genealogist. You explained this very well. This is why we should test our siblings. Some of my DNA relatives don't show up on my brother. So, when you include your siblings you get more cousins You should do African Ancestry so you can find out what area your ancestry came from.
Mine came from congo and nigerian from back in the 1800s (per 23&me) . The rumor on my moms side of the family was always that we had black. So 23&me was spot on! Also most potuguese people have north african (middle eastern) and some black.
The problem is that they're still collecting data, the sampling isn't nearly done. There's whole civilizations outside the Americas and Europe that they have very little data on.
Exactly! That's only one of the multiple problems but that's a very important one nobody listens to! They probably have right around maybe 5% of the DNA of random advanced countries. That's not even enough to extrapolate really any conclusion without making a huge inference if you can even call it that.
23andMe lets you download your DNA code in a text file and there are other sites that let you upload this information (such as FamilyTreeDNA) and you get different results. Kinda interesting.
They really think they scored african (subsaharan?) rotfl. They scored some north 'african', that is caucasoid and actually so ancient that is shared with europeans. Not the same thing as SSA
Search biracial twins. Best example of what he's trying to say is the cases of twins coming from two entirely different race parents, one twin inherited most genetic makeup of one parent and the other twin inherits the other parents. You can literally have twins where one is black and one is white. Pieces of genitic makeup can be omitted from offspring entirely. Pretty interesting.
Them being twins makes no difference than if they were born years apart because biracial twins are fraternal. It is still interesting though that siblings can have different skin colors because of the genetic variability created during Meiosis
My mother is Mexican and father Scottish, I am darker skinned like my mom and my brother is light skinned like my dad, we have different features from our parents.
In theory a person could have no genetic relation to a grandparent, but it's statistically almost impossible. That would occur, if your parent only passed on the half of their genetic material that came from only one of their parents. An example would be 13 chromosomes from your maternal grandmother, 6 from your paternal grandmother, and 7 from your paternal grandfather. At just two generations, variation is inevitable from 25%, because 46 chromosomes won't divide into four equal parts. By the time you get to ten generations out, a lot of lineage information will be lost.
You get half of each of your parents chromosomes at random. The same went for their parents and their parents all the way up your tree. Certain variations of each chromosome can be traced back to different regions. This is an extreme example but let's say one of your parents is 50% French and 50% Scottish. There's a chance all of their French DNA and none of their Scottish DNA is passed on to you which would mean it would appear you have no Scottish lineage when you do. Although there's a tiny chance of the specific scenario, you can see how that works. If there is an Italian and North African couple and they have a kid, that kids has Italian and North African chromosomes. Now if each generation after that has only Italian people, you can see how generation after generation there will be less North African chromosomes in that family until there are none left and despite your great great great great great grandparent being North African, it would show that you don't have North African ancestry. It's not that the tests are poor quality and unable to see this, it's that there truly isn't any North African DNA in that person to be found by the test.
Even if you technically have scottish ancestry it's not in your gene profile so biologicially I guess you can say you don't have scottish ancestry anymore right?
The problem with the test is they focus largely on just the coding portion of ur genome, which is essentially 2-3% of ur entire genome. In short, the test makes a claim about ur ancestry by only looking at 2-3% of ur dna.
its actually 1% and (if you ignore that) your claim, while technically true, omits such a key detail it might as well be misinformation. that 'small piece of dna' is the one that tells your body to do shit and is wholly responsible for life existing. all that extra non-coding dna isn't important to look at and has no discernible information that can be extracted.
We as humans have 46 chromosomes making 23 pair. You get 1 of the 23 pairs from each parent making it possible to not have any lineage your mother/father has a lot of... That's why twins dont have the exact same DNA. 👍
It's not a incomplete measuring service it's just genetic ancestry can't be completely traceable or comparable with our modern borders we created as countries. It's also hard to find many unique genetic traits because many genetic traits are shared between populations.
@@leonardodavid2842 You could consider Maltese people to be genetically the same as Sicilian people, but it's its own nation with its own language, and cultural differences.
@@OhHeyItsAlexx I was talking geographically. Also calling Sicilians themselves one people is wrong. Sicilians are incredibly diverse themselves (although Maltese differ to a greater extent)
Im mostly irish, my great grandfather and his brothers pretended to be dock workers and snuck on the boat over to America. My great grand father delivered ice and milk in new York, and didn't become a legitimate citizen until 50 or 60 years after sneaking over. He lived to be 94 or 98.
I took the My Heritage Dna test, reputed to be the best company. According to them, i’m 2.3% West Asian, 6% East European, and 91.7% Irish, Scottish and Welsh. Here’s the thing though. My dad comes from a big family, they all have light brown skin, brown eyes and dark hair, but my dad has blue eyes. Cut a long story short, our ancestors 110% came from Malta, i have an ancestor who married a waitress there in the late 19th century, her name and her parents names are very Italian and they probably spoke Italian - my dad always said we had a great great, whatever, grandmother who came from Naples. Did any of that show up in the test?, not at all.
This guy is also 75% Eminem
AxxL you are cancer
nah dude that's Tony Hawk
You mean aesthetically? Or the fact that he doesn't look 44?
Kaizen Mckenzie so basically a wigger
@@caixiuying8901 I agree I see more Tony Hawk
Joe “I’m 1.6% African” Rogan
All you need is one drop.
Myles Matthews Another Roganism!
he gotta black nose😶
noblelies dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
I thought I was a standard white guy. However, I just found out that I am 1/32 Lenape Indian. I’m a victim of oppression, as are my people😀
Joe " I'm dat nigga " Rogan
lmao
@Jack Peoples there both not
Black because 2%African is
Nothing they have way more
European and maybe middle eastern than African there not
Black DNA alone tills us that's
Like me saying am European
Win I got at least 88% African
So am African not white there
White not black that 2% is nothing
Bro, your dna says you are part banana lmfao
@@bolayul291 BUT with white people, there is a discrepancy between them having a little bit or even as much as 15% African DNA and black people having as much as 30% white DNA. For the white people with that their own people will start racially harassing them and calling them "nigg**s". Look it up. For black people, white people will say, "No. You're not Scottish or English because of that. You're still black." Because most of us have female ancestors who were raped by some kind of Europeans, in multiple ethnicities. So, for the most part it's the social construct that is so ingrained in America that people go by.
@@bolayul291what percent makes you black? 51%? Even most half black kids aren’t even 50%
I did the 23andMe test and I'm 99.6% European and 0.4% Native American. I'm more oppressed than Elizabeth Warren.
@@doggydeeds that's not true at all. Neanderthals were in Europe long before out of Africa migration and in modern Europeans the dna admixture is found with the Asian population but not the Sub-Saharan African.
@@doggydeeds without the risk of repeating myself, there's zero evidence of African DNA in the origin of modern Europeans. The admixture and genome sequencing along with migration patterns have no connection to Africa.
Run for office, dude. You're already more worthy than that bitch.
Otis Tyson Boris Bruh I've argued with people like these they don't stop until you question yourself if you're wrong.
@@doggydeeds people get confused because we see race as mostly the outward appearence but there are a lot of other things that code for non visible phenotypes. you could be 50% black but look less black than the average biracial because of this.
Thsi guy looks like Eminem and Tony Hawk had a baby somehow.
Lol
Lmfao.nailed it
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ion see the Eminem in him sorry bud
Slim Skater
"But I'm like as hairy as like a 13 year old, like, Norwegian girl..."
Listen.. I'm not going to ask how you settled on that particular assessment.
Most of it made sense. I don't know about the Norwegian part though...
If you looking for hairy i would recommend Egypt or India
@@nomnomoreos1604 why , for scientific reasons,thanks in advance
Seafko Badwan your welcome
@@nomnomoreos1604 i would recommend Egypt or India , i mean why would recommend this is there any scientific data or proves
I was going to join 23andMe then I found it wasn't a dating site. But then I found it could help me with my family tree, so again it was kind of a dating site.
"the south will rise again"
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Significant genetic difference between North African and sub Saharan African. Italians will often have North African in them.
Erich von Manstein sub-saharan is a broad term, how vast is sub -saharah? It is pretty diverse so your comment doesn't make any sense.
@@fayguled900 You should take that issue up with 23 and Me who breaks down genetics by North African and sub Saharan African (basically black African). I've seen a couple of videos by JR now mentioning in jest that he is "black" because he came back with African on his DNA test. My point is if that is North African (which it likely is since he's Italian) he is not black.
Erich von Manstein youre completely right. The North African on these tests refer to Berber DNA which is not sub Saharan black.
the Italians mixed with north africa in roman times before arabs came to north africa, they were "black" and most north africans today are mix of arab and moors (black). people dividing north africa from "sub saharan" fail to realize that very recently in human history the sahara was a savanna like east africa is now. and it wasnt the physical and cultural barrier it is today. 23 and me words it this way because they know most people are ignorant to these things. their no such thing as a "north african" race there is arabs and moors and most people are mix of the two. the moors are descended from west africans and arabs descended from east africans, infact all people from outside of africa descended from east african. and the mixed peoples from spain, portulgal and italy are moors/black not arabs.
@@drumagus2258 North Africans werent black then at all.Were there some blacks yes but Carthaginians were white for example ...
The real issue is that any DNA testing depends almost entirely on how many people are in their base. With something like 23 and Me, it keeps expanding the more people who participate, thus enlarging their base. The good thing is that they keep updating their base and inform people who took the test a long time ago. They send you updated results.
@Bob Watters who cares as long as you don’t do anything bad you should be ight. Simple as that
@Bob Watters no it’s the truth lmao don’t do anything bad and you’re good. Understand
Yeah no one's ever gone to jail wrongly fully accused
@@ixdjxl1 sucks to be them huh?
@Bob Watters no what they are doing is stock piling people so when shit hits the fan they have a population base they can start cloning to insure the survival of our race! Think about that for a minute
"It's an incomplete picture."
"How so?"
"It's an incomplete picture."
"oh. ok."
Epigenetics is the key.
So there is an interesting thing that happens where the genes of the parents mix: they have 2 sets of chromosomes which they got from their parents too (one from mother and one from father) .
These 2 sets of chromosomes mix and you may get 10% from the father of one parent and 90% from the mother while these test search for specific genes which might not encompass everything you got from your ancestors. So yeah that's a very important point. But to say that the ancestry is mostly irrelevant to the factual world would put their business down
When you inherit genes, you get half from your mother and half from your father. Each time this split is made you randomly get a selection of half your father's genes and half your mother's. It's a bit like shuffling cards and dealing out a certain number. Yes you might have ancestors from a certain place, but you didn't get dealt those particular cards, even if your sibling did. Over time with continuous shuffling of genes over generations it is possible for one ancestors genes to be completely removed.
And 25% from each grandparent, or s t 12.5%, but u get the idea.
Bingo! You’re right on the money
True Chris
@@awillis244 Facts
It is possible for one ancestors genes to be completely removed.
Source: Trust me bro
Joe rogan is now 1.6 lightskin
Dont you mean 98.4 lightskin
✨ 🌈 math 💫 ✨
PAhaahahah
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same
What was the point of the horse and carriage story? I thought that he was about to say that his grandfather was semi black or something...
Can you all take your ritalin and shut up
You are all a bunch of idiots.
@@fredrogers7858 we're out. Can we borrow some of yours?
Same
All of these replies are fucking retarded he was just going on about his ancestry.
"Let's talk about shit we haven't the slightest clue about."
Classic Joe.
I love when Joe is baffled by something that could be easily explained to him by anyone other than the guest 😂
He's an actor
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It always astounds me when people get their DNA back and it’s a life changing event. It totally changes the way they act. Do you guys remember the DNA commercial that “traded in his kelt for lederhosen”? As if somehow he was now able to tap into some kind of ancestral zen and (select) become a new identity. I think this says a lot about the psychology of identity, but even more about mass marketing manipulating that psychology.
...all I know is that culture is taught not genetically passed.
It’s to know better about your ancestral heritage. Do you even know what heritage is?
@@c.galindo9639 Heritage is overrated. You're a product of your environment.
@@MishaFlower that’s just a fool’s way of accepting what they cannot change and be like everyone else
@@c.galindo9639That's what poeple who care about heritage tend to be like.
@@MishaFlower and “a product of your environment” sounds better?
Ok lmao XD
44? you look 25
does he fuck. I'll give him 35 at best.
@Brian Abisdid Yup. I love my hair for that exact reason. Ladies love clean hair too.
Black don't crack.
Black don't crack
@@simonriddick ahhh you beat me to it! Fuck lol
“The problem with 23 & Me is too much sugar and refined carbs”
Jokes on you guys, now the government has your genetic code
Campion fuck
Isn't it the UN? I was pretty sure it's the UN who's created a database filled with the genetic codes of children taken by a heel-prick blood sample at birth.
Same thing
They already have everything else on me. Knowing that I come from a long line of huge dick males isn’t the end of the world.
Believe me, if I had the change to deposit a nice big load of genetic material all over the face of some particular government...oh I would.
rogan is 1.6% african👶🏿 and 98.4% steroids💉
DIO GALLARDO the guys a midget, he can grow muscle easily
G Eazy he always saying it himself that he is on test and other stuff. guys in ther 50's don't gain muscle naturally like that
DIO GALLARDO The guy has a small frame
010010000101 010100101 I doubt he’s 5’8, he is more like 5’6. I also meant he had a small frame.
TRT son
What people don't understand is that 23andMe genetic ancestry is with "50% confidence." The only thing they can tell you with "90% confidence" is that your ancestors are probably European. So if it says you're 1% this or that take it with a grain of salt. It's more entertainment than anything else.
Entertained by 23and me selling the results to racists on the dark web?
@@nosuchthing8are you okay?
@@jadeeybaby
23andMe is facing more than 30 lawsuits after a data breach last year exposed personal information from nearly 7 million customers' profiles. Valued at $6 billion in 2021 when it went public, 23andMe now risks being delisted from the Nasdaq as its stock continues to trade below $1 a share.Feb 12, 2024
@@jadeeybaby
SF hackers allegedly target 23andMe for data on customers of Ashkenazi Jewish and Chinese heritages
Bay City News
3 months ago
The lawsuit says that sensitive information on a million Ashkenazi Jews and 350,000 customers of Chinese heritage was obtained by hackers and offered for sale on the dark web, raising legitimate fears “for the personal safety and security of customers” in those groups and creating the risk of “subjecting them to ethnic targeting, discrimination, and harassment.”
“My dad was raised on the south side of Chicago”
Ahh so your dad was Leroy Brown.
Is Young Jamie making these in real time? This episode is live right now.
stonem83 yes
Lol
grind szn young jamie
Yes, he got an A in Real Time Video Streaming Cropping II when he was in college
Jamie is 2/8 native adderrall and 6/8 american metamphetaminean
My great grandfather was from Sicily. He made his own wine in Baltimore in his basement. He was a Barber. Grew his own wine grapes, he lived to 97
Moon shine bootlegger
My great grandmother was from Sicily as well. Its a shame I'm only 1/8 Sicilian; because it'd be so cool to identify as Sicilian American! I've been learning some Sicilian words
I know what he was trying to say. I read a similar article explaining how the testing works. It is quite complicated. Let's say you and your full biological sibling both take the test, but your results are quite different. How does that happen if you have the same parents? We get 50% DNA from each parent. Your 50% might have contained a lot of your mom's Irish heritage, while the 50% that your sibling got may only contain a small bit of her Irish genes. And when you consider that the same process has happened for generations before you, it makes sense that there is genetic lineage in your family tree that does not show up in your DNA. So, you could have an ancestor that was full blood Cherokee, for example, but you just didn't get any of those particular genes, or only 1 or 2% of them trickled down to you.
Exactly, while we get 50% of our DNA from our parents, it's theoretically possible (although highly improbable) to get 0% from one of your grandparents.
What if I don’t have any siblings and I’m an only child on both sides
@@intuitiv3taur3an91 You'd still only get 50% from each parents, so regardless of sibling or not, you may still not inherit certain genes from specific ancestors
@@intuitiv3taur3an91 that variable is irrelevant to recombination of autosomal DNA in you.
You only get 50% exactly from mother and 50% exactly from father. Because you inherit your parents DNA directly from them to you, because they’re YOUR parents.
However, you inherit DNA from your grandparents INDIRECTLY via YOUR parents, not directly from your grantsparents to you, and because your grandparents’ DNA is randomly given to you VIA your parents, therefore no person is ever born with 25% from each of their four grandparents.
That randomness is what reshuffles your grandparents’ percentage in you and sometimes even within two generation you might already have no DNA from one of your great grandparents. It’s unlikely to happen so fast but it is possible. Usually by the fourth generation it’s more likely for one great-great-grandparents’ DNA to have totally been washed out of you.
So while you are 100 parts you, and you’re exactly 50:50 parts made of YOUR two parents, instead of being 25:25:25:25 parts made of your grandparents (because it’s via your parents), you might randomly be 24:26:30:20 parts made of your grandparents equals 100 parts you.
And so on and so forth with every subsequent generation.
You might therefore randomly be 11:14:10:15:9:16:0:25 of each of your eight respective great-grandparents VIA your parents. Notice in this example, one of your great-grandparent’s DNA has been washed out of you and you have none of their DNA even though they’re still you’re great-grandparent. Meanwhile, you have randomly inherited the amount of DNA from one great-grandparent as though he or she were one generation closer to you (a grandparent).
Most DNA tests only use 2 percent of your genome. You have to pay for a full sequence test to get the rest.
how do you do that?
@@theminesweeper1ask a doctor
That's a little misleading to say, we share around 99.9% DNA, therefore analysing the whole sequence would be pointless
@@alpheendominationif isn’t misleading lol we share the same dna because of the first person on earth how ever when it comes to ancestry (from parents side)we aren’t the same your most likely 90 percent European im around 88 percent African and a little bit Indian/European in me but other then that we don’t share the same dna…
@@Kingchasethebag-yeah So you're saying that we share the same DNA and then you're saying we don't. Almost all of our DNA is identical, it is only a very small percentage which differentiates us. I think you are misunderstanding how ancestry is represented in DNA, there is no such thing as certain alleles tied to certain places, instead certain mutations have become common across certain regions and so can link a person to that region. However all those variants that we look at are contained in the very small percentage that is unique, as a result there is no reason to test the entire genome for something like an ancestry test. And is therefore misleading to discredit tests for that reason.
23 and me makes my conspiracy senses tingle.
My wife who's grandfather was a Cherokee showed zero trace native American in her test results.
that dude is 44? damn he looks young
DEErockP87 black dont crack 😂😂
DEErockP87 I know right. Look at poor Joe and he’s only 25.
@@ThatBethesdaGuy underrated comment
He has a kind of boyish haircut, that probably helps.
He does look young but what's with his neck? anytime he talks it bulges out?
What he's trying to say is that you inherit chromosomes from each parent but not equally. Your sister and you could have much different ancestry readings due to you inheriting more from dad and her more from mom.
@Bob Watters absolutely and completely false. do your research. thats actually exactly what occurs. Even twins will have different results on and entry tests based on the DNA. you do NOT receive exact equal portions from parent
The problem with these dna sites is they only have a small sample size that they base their algorithms off of. What Steve is saying too is that these tests only look for known traces within their specific samples and they can miss things very easily. I just watched a Market Place video where these two identical twins took a test and they had different results.. also they took the tests through 5 different companies and each company varied widely on their results.
I was gonna try the gene test but some weird sh*t will probably pop saying I'm half extraterrestrial and potato Next thing I'll be in a cage at area 51. Think I'll just order a pizza.
😂😂😂
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That's why we study family history through genealogy along with genetic testing. It kinda helps to give you the full picture.
I think the notion he’s grasping for is that a particular ancestor, representing a specific ethnic group, could be so far removed from you chronologically that the bloodline has been diluted by the time it gets to you. The more distant the lineage, the less likely it is to show up in your results.
Like Neanderthal dna
I swabbed my dogs mouth and sent it in to 23 and me!! I’m waiting for the results!!😂😂😂
What happened
lmaoooo dawg I'm dead, you gotta let us know the results 🤣🤣
Did you ever hear back? 🤣
😂
What happened?
Partial understanding is always a problem with newer science becoming main stream. Bad analogies and super simplified explanations always lead to gross misunderstandings
But that's Joe Rogans job. He tries to understand things with his battered 'roided up ape brain and then explaining it is even harder because he has the vocabulary and intellect of a child.
I’m just scared they’ll make a clone of me with my spit
Did you see The Island? At least if they do you can have a perfect someone to harvest organs from! 😅
WildKittyCat what island ?
@@cwalk4920 :: It’s a pretty good movie.
Dude I consider that a bonus that would be cool as hell.
I already have identical twin, so I am not worried if they do lol.
Every race came from the African Man and Women.
I did the whole finding out genetics thing and when I got the results, i wasn't at all surprised. But now I have paperwork that proves it.
Nah my entire family got 23 and me tests 3 years ago for Christmas and my siblings are identical twins and theirs came back the exact same percentages in every regard while mine was different by 50% mixed up compared to theirs.
That sounds awesome
Some twins do get different results
Some twins get different results all family will have differences in there dna make up rather its on ethnicity or matches not everyone carries the same kind of genes as the other for example my cousin matches people her sisters don't and they match people she don't
Since your siblings come the same parents as you. You should have had identical results
Did the Dennis Hopper Christopher Walken scene from "True Romance" go through anyone else's head when theyre talking about Sacilians??? LOFL
Sicily has been ruled by moors Berber not West African subsaharians
@Pam Graham lol 😆 why do African Americans believe made up history. Ask actual Africans and they will tell you that they aren't north africans/middle eastern
@Pam Graham it is referred to as the mena region
www.investopedia.com/terms/m/middle-east-and-north-africa-mena.asp
Read and find out. Sorry meant afro carribean in your case. Look the moors are not jamaican. This is absolutely absurd. Jamaica has a lot going for it. Beautiful people, culture, athletic but moors no
The interviewer is right to say that the picture might be incomplete. I've done 23andme. The company says that beyond our 2nd great grandparents we don't inherit DNA from all our ancestors. My brother did the test, we were recognized as brothers and share 56% of our DNA. However, his results were quite different from mine, eg. I'm 2% Italian yet he has no Italian DNA but he still has some Italian ancestry.
It sounds like your mom has some explaining to do, sorry man 🤷🏻
@@outtathawoods Siblings usually have around 50%. Only identical twins have close to100%. It's common for siblings to have very different mixes and for one to inherit things that another didn't. 23andme correctly identified us as full brothers.
@@francissquire9910 I was only messing with you bro. My apologies, I hope you didn’t take it too personal? 🤷🏻
Men inherit a genetic markers. Europeans have 4% Neanderthal non-coding ( for the most part let's hope) DNA
A great scene in the movie True Romance with Dennis Hopper and Christopher Walken talks about Sicilians and the Moores. 😂
I immediately thought of "The Sicilian scene", actually just watched it again last weekend
@@sounduser Brilliant
@@Jbreeze3878 My favorite part of that scene is when Hopper says
"Can I ugh......Can I have one of those Chesterfields now?"
The opera music fades in and he asked the question. He knew he was dead. So he said F it. I'm going out in an insulting blaze of glory.
Same
Mate, he did it to cause his death. It was a suicide move, to make the dude so angry he would stop asking him to rat out his son, not torture him and just kill him quickly.
Here’s what he is struggling very much at saying:
The passing of ancestry is very much like the shuffling and cutting of a deck of cards. If every human is a 23 card deck of colorful cards and say your grandmother had 10 blue cards, 10 red cards, and 3 purple cards. Let’s also say for example that purple cards represent Irish ancestry. If her deck is being cut in half and fused with half your grandfathers deck of 23 cards to create your father, then there’s a good chance zero purple cards were passed to your father. Now let’s say 1 purple card did get passed to your father against the slim odds. When your fathers deck gets cut in half to be fused with half of your mothers deck of cards to create you there’s EVEN slimmer chance that you get a purple card. So if you do get zero purple cards it could appear that you’re 0% Irish even though your father and grandmother would show Irish on an ancestry test. So in short ancestry can get washed out just do to odds.
Disclaimer: this also assumes the shuffling of chromosomes is completely random. In actuality there are some phenotypes that favor others and vice versa that will skews the odds a bit. Additionally, like was mentioned in the video, it also comes down to the data base your DNA testing company has. For example if they’ve never seen your specific type of purple card before then they won’t know to categorize it as Irish.
fuggin nerd
I think you may be oversimplifying the complexity of testing. There’s so much code in DNA that can connect to, let’s say Scottish and having red hair, or the timing in which you can grow a beard, or the size of K9 teeth, or if your body lacks an alcohol enzyme thus relating you to Asian decent etc. Even with a smaller data base, variables can be plugged into the system to train the algorithm. Great point though Joshua !
Yes. DNA companies play the guessing game with their DNA results. Just watched marketplace where identical twins sent DNA to 5 different companies and results should be identical and they were not. In the end it’s more of a novelty item and not to take results seriously.
@@summer45able 23andme accurately reported my German (0.3% roughly) ancestry that I could actually back up with deep genealogy work.
This explanation isn’t even close to making sense
I gave this DNA test to my dad as a present and he turned out to be 100% Iberian. 100% 😮
Is he Spanish?
@@houngrysdigest1525 Argentinian. All of his ancestors were from Spain though.
Pure blood. Is your mom the same? Did he just ruin the lineage?!
@@USFighter my mom has italic, baltic, irish and many others.
Who works in a library these days ffs
Me and my brother have different ancestors even though we have the same parents, it’s all about how the genes get expressed
Sounds like one of you might have the mailman's genes.
No, that just means you don't have the same fathers
Yup. Even twins could have different genomes.
Jeremy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Jeremy-ql1or well, OP didn't say step-brother. The DNA test would have told them that too roflmao.
Can't take these services seriously after seeing the South Park episode: "I'm 1,6 % victim." 😁
I did a 23andMe and had 5% Italian and 1.5% North African. My heritage came in at 6.5 North African. My great grandad was from Malta. Just shows how the regions can very
Sicily was part of an Islamic Caliphate for over 100 years.
that's what makes them part "eggplant"
300*
Melanzane 😆😂
They were still delivering produce and milk by horse in Birmingham England in the 1930s, my Dad can remember it.
DNA tests are extremely accurate if you wish to discover who you share DNA with recently. They're 100% accurate at identifying your recent extended family. Ethnicity breakdowns are nothing more than correlations with present-day reference populations. The idea is that as more data is added to the reference populations the more accurate the data will become, but think about how they created the reference populations. They went to a part of the world, took DNA samples and just ASKED people who their ancestors were. Of course they have bad data. In addition to that problem, ethnicity breakdowns vary wildly among immediate relatives because everyone doesn't inherit the same genes, so some people who are related might get the Iberian peninsula genes while someone else gets Scandinavian genes.
If that's true that's pretty interesting. I actually wondered how they would have the baseline references for a region.
@@Sorest2 It's true. Easily googleable
True when finding family yes but certain tribes in certain races don't always have enough full bloods to pin point every person's shared dna with those groups and I took 3 test where it should show that they couldn't read about a quarter of my dna.
It depends on which dna company. The most accurate is gedmatch
@@Elias_Truth the "eye opening" thing to me was that 23&me says all of the DNA results are from ancestors no more than 300-450 years ago, the small percentages represent someone of full blood from that time frame.
Deshawn Rogan and Tyrone Rinella
The whole thing is a damn hoax.
It's just trying to find matches from the other people who'd send their samples in.
It's really really incomplete.
Yep, VERY incomplete.
Did they D.N.A test and found out that my sister and I don't share the same dad. My mom has a lot of explaining to do 😲
That's very common, I did mine and been holding on to a secret for a couple of years now.
I debate the merit of exposing what I know I just don't see any good that come from it after 30yrs.
The Ironic part is I have a brother who we discovered each other's existence at the same time, we're actually bonded by that secret and discuss it among our selves often, he's in the exact same situation as far as revealing.
It's the weirdest thing. Because our parents have the same secret, they just don't know that we know and know each other.
So I guess we inherit the keeping secret trait
I dunno it's confusing..
If your origins are Sicily there is a VERY good chance you have some African blood in you. Everyone from the Romans to the Moors brought thousands of Africans into Sicily. This true for the rest of the Mediterranean bordering countries. Spain was nearly entirely Moorish at one point in time. Do some history before freaking out about your ancestry!
North Africans are a vast group of people mainly of Berber and Egyptian descent.
The problem with 23andMe is that it only looks at your genetic heritage in the form of nationalities and a few prominent groups. This doesn't reflect actual genetic diversity and how anthropology actually looks at genetic histories. For example a person from India would most likely be 100% Indian(Broadly South Asian as they call it). This doesn't reflect the actual genetic heritage of the person and just restricts it to telling where your ancestors lived which are now defined by different national borders.
Hallelujah. Finally, someone who understands the problem with these ancestry tests!
Facts
just two black guys talking
I lived with my great great aunt who was 96-99 yrs old thru the years we lived with her. She was born before the Titanic sank and passed away well after the millennium
I'm also 90% english despite having Irish, Welsh and German ancestry. I should get to be the queen at that level!
The problem with 23andme is PRIVACY.
They profit more from selling our data then they do from testing.
I have no clue who i am who i am related to where i belong since i never knew my dad so many family secrets on my moms side
Always felt disconnected from the people i grew up with never fit in .......been better off being raised by a pack of wolves
Im in the same boat,family secrets moms side, never seen my father. I kinda was figuring i might have alien DNA. It's possible. Maybe you're an alien too?
North African is not Black.... Facepalm... Joe "African" Rogan
01:45 Sicily was colonised by the Greeks, Phoenicians, Latins (Romans), Arabs & Berbers, Scandinavians (Vikings), French Vikings (Normans), Spanish, and several other peoples. It's actually very logical, as Sicily is literally located in the middle of the Mediterranean sea.
DNA test results are entirely dependent on how large the sampling is. As more and more people take the test, 23 and Me and other testers, will have a much wider selection to add to your profile. The other thing is that a number like 2 or 3% coming from Africa or where ever is almost certain the further the test goes back in time.
1 chromosome of each pair ALWAYS comes from each parent (barring chromosomal nondisjunction which is an extreme error in meiosis). If you are directly descended from someone, you will possess genetic material from that person. This doesn't mean these companies can identify everything, though.
The moors were NOT BLACK for God’s sake
They were meat popsicles lol
One thing about DNA results that isn't mentioned is that they change over time . The more people do these tests the more data they have and your data could change literally over night , not drastic but enough to be mentioned . So the 1.6 African could literally be 0 in less than a month
@Picklefart69 Ok and your point is...?
@Picklefart69 How is the comment not accurate? I did my DNA test and it changed? Are you living my life for me ?
No I didn't get any e-mails.....What are you talking about?
"I’m pretty sure it’s mentioned.. people get emails about updates who have used these services I’m sure it changes from company to company"
@Picklefart69 I went on the website where you make a profile ,very much like the one here...are you 14 years old?
@Picklefart69 Also no one told me it would change over time when I signed up. You are arguing semantics not facts, now I get it, hence the confusion...
I doubt it would be 0% if any presence of "racial other" is present. Be that Native, European, African, or Asian origin. The percentages might change, but it appears easier to differentiate the races genetically from what I've read than to differentiate ethnicities within a race.
To answer Joe's question, 23andMe is simply not a very accurate tool. The company only sequences a small window of your genome that relies on probabilistic determinants, due to the low cost of the product. If you want to have your entire genome sequenced this can be done for about 3-4 x the cost of companies like 23andMe, which are sanctioned by a medical professional and it will provide you with your complete genetic makeup.
Which companies are you mentioning?
@@Ice-im9zk Fbi👴🏿
Does it tell you the countries you and your ancestors are from
I took the test thinking i was 100% European but no I am 89.8% 5% Asian 3% Native American 2% African .1% Brazilian and .1% Pacific Islander
From what I'm hearing 23andMe is not the most accurate with their results. You can upload the raw DNA info to third-party websites to get better information and find genetic matches on family tree sites.
I took 23andme and my heritage . I am now awaiting to receive Ancesteys DNA kit. I must say 23andme were freaking off!
What third party websites did you use?
You have to have your parents take the test too to get a more complete picture
We all have traces of African ancestry because the human race began in Africa.
I can still remember the milkmen delivering dairy products by horse cart in my hometown.
I'm a genealogist. You explained this very well. This is why we should test our siblings. Some of my DNA relatives don't show up on my brother. So, when you include your siblings you get more cousins
You should do African Ancestry so you can find out what area your ancestry came from.
It’s most likely North African DNA. Historically Berbers had the most contact with Southern Europeans.
Mine came from congo and nigerian from back in the 1800s (per 23&me) . The rumor on my moms side of the family was always that we had black. So 23&me was spot on! Also most potuguese people have north african (middle eastern) and some black.
Would it be better for my results to test my brother or father?
I’m don’t think you should give away rights to your DNA for false results though
@@N9mber Berbers are white
I’m Sicilian and I’m 10% North African
I knew this was clickbait given my past interactions with this channel...but I fell for it anyways
Joe reminds me of Dennis Hopper in True Romance when he tells the mafiosi that as Sicilians they are actually black
Mom was 100% Norwegian, Dad was Irish, French, Native American, all documented. Brother’s 23andme came back 95% gap tooth Brit. It’s bs.
The problem is that they're still collecting data, the sampling isn't nearly done. There's whole civilizations outside the Americas and Europe that they have very little data on.
Exactly! That's only one of the multiple problems but that's a very important one nobody listens to!
They probably have right around maybe 5% of the DNA of random advanced countries. That's not even enough to extrapolate really any conclusion without making a huge inference if you can even call it that.
Yep. An Indian or a Chinese person would be 100% Indian and Chinese respectively.
23andMe lets you download your DNA code in a text file and there are other sites that let you upload this information (such as FamilyTreeDNA) and you get different results. Kinda interesting.
So does ancestory
A lot of these tests only do a snippet and 🎉it’s not the whole genome sequencing that they’re doing. Each company has its own way of testing ancestry.
It’s a lottery, that’s all genetics are. Amazing when you think about it
23 and Me literally said that my background consisted of every ethnic background they had on their site...no joke....
Gotta catch em all...?
They really think they scored african (subsaharan?) rotfl. They scored some north 'african', that is caucasoid and actually so ancient that is shared with europeans. Not the same thing as SSA
Search biracial twins. Best example of what he's trying to say is the cases of twins coming from two entirely different race parents, one twin inherited most genetic makeup of one parent and the other twin inherits the other parents. You can literally have twins where one is black and one is white. Pieces of genitic makeup can be omitted from offspring entirely. Pretty interesting.
Them being twins makes no difference than if they were born years apart because biracial twins are fraternal. It is still interesting though that siblings can have different skin colors because of the genetic variability created during Meiosis
My mother is Mexican and father Scottish, I am darker skinned like my mom and my brother is light skinned like my dad, we have different features from our parents.
I pity mixed race people
Lube you’re probably not mixed lmao
@@lolyeppp Yes.
In theory a person could have no genetic relation to a grandparent, but it's statistically almost impossible. That would occur, if your parent only passed on the half of their genetic material that came from only one of their parents. An example would be 13 chromosomes from your maternal grandmother, 6 from your paternal grandmother, and 7 from your paternal grandfather. At just two generations, variation is inevitable from 25%, because 46 chromosomes won't divide into four equal parts. By the time you get to ten generations out, a lot of lineage information will be lost.
People forget that Africans enslaved the Itallians at one point in history. So, that might explain the small percentage of African DNA in your genes.
Don't understand African, as it's not a race, Africa is as diverse a continent as the Americas for example.
That’s because you are not making the distinction between nationality and ethnicity.
More diverse, in fact. The greatest human genetic diversity is in Africa.
@@perrinfan nah, probably west Asia/middle East.
@@Deadassbruhfrfr Not from a genetic standpoint.
He meant Negroid.
You get half of each of your parents chromosomes at random. The same went for their parents and their parents all the way up your tree. Certain variations of each chromosome can be traced back to different regions.
This is an extreme example but let's say one of your parents is 50% French and 50% Scottish. There's a chance all of their French DNA and none of their Scottish DNA is passed on to you which would mean it would appear you have no Scottish lineage when you do. Although there's a tiny chance of the specific scenario, you can see how that works. If there is an Italian and North African couple and they have a kid, that kids has Italian and North African chromosomes. Now if each generation after that has only Italian people, you can see how generation after generation there will be less North African chromosomes in that family until there are none left and despite your great great great great great grandparent being North African, it would show that you don't have North African ancestry. It's not that the tests are poor quality and unable to see this, it's that there truly isn't any North African DNA in that person to be found by the test.
Even if you technically have scottish ancestry it's not in your gene profile so biologicially I guess you can say you don't have scottish ancestry anymore right?
@@Sorest2 You are genetically not Scottish but you do still have Scottish ancestry.
Sicily was also a city state of Carthage (modern day Tunisia) in Northern Africa. That was one of the reasons Rome warred with them
The problem with the test is they focus largely on just the coding portion of ur genome, which is essentially 2-3% of ur entire genome.
In short, the test makes a claim about ur ancestry by only looking at 2-3% of ur dna.
its actually 1% and (if you ignore that) your claim, while technically true, omits such a key detail it might as well be misinformation. that 'small piece of dna' is the one that tells your body to do shit and is wholly responsible for life existing. all that extra non-coding dna isn't important to look at and has no discernible information that can be extracted.
5 percent African 👌🏼
Alvin Ferrion welcome brother
We as humans have 46 chromosomes making 23 pair. You get 1 of the 23 pairs from each parent making it possible to not have any lineage your mother/father has a lot of... That's why twins dont have the exact same DNA. 👍
2:57 Sans
Lol
It's not a incomplete measuring service it's just genetic ancestry can't be completely traceable or comparable with our modern borders we created as countries. It's also hard to find many unique genetic traits because many genetic traits are shared between populations.
"I'm as hairy as 13yo Norwegian girl" wth?? someone should check this guy browser history? lol
Keep in mind sicily is the southern most point to europe.
That would actually be Malta. But genetics are very similar.
@@OhHeyItsAlexx damn you got me. Well... I guess Malta could be considered a sicilian island... no?
@@leonardodavid2842 You could consider Maltese people to be genetically the same as Sicilian people, but it's its own nation with its own language, and cultural differences.
@@OhHeyItsAlexx I was talking geographically. Also calling Sicilians themselves one people is wrong. Sicilians are incredibly diverse themselves (although Maltese differ to a greater extent)
I'm Maltese, and I'm waiting on 23andMe results. Should be interesting.
Jesus Christ if only these guys had learned about dominant and recessive traits
You mean basic biology? Yeah, if only.
Im mostly irish, my great grandfather and his brothers pretended to be dock workers and snuck on the boat over to America. My great grand father delivered ice and milk in new York, and didn't become a legitimate citizen until 50 or 60 years after sneaking over. He lived to be 94 or 98.
I took the My Heritage Dna test, reputed to be the best company. According to them, i’m 2.3% West Asian, 6% East European, and 91.7% Irish, Scottish and Welsh. Here’s the thing though. My dad comes from a big family, they all have light brown skin, brown eyes and dark hair, but my dad has blue eyes. Cut a long story short, our ancestors 110% came from Malta, i have an ancestor who married a waitress there in the late 19th century, her name and her parents names are very Italian and they probably spoke Italian - my dad always said we had a great great, whatever, grandmother who came from Naples. Did any of that show up in the test?, not at all.
My heritage is ok but it's not the best. I'd say ancestry is better as they are more user friendly and have, I believe, the biggest database
Ancestry has the largest database for family matching each company has good stuff
Then. Your family's been lying to you.
@@memonk11 Terrible bait.
Family and Genetic relations aren't the same thing.
Most people relate culturally anyways.
@@Peakfreud Of course your comment has exactly zero to do with what I've said.