I'm about a year late here Johnny, but that's ok. Truth never changes and the information you put out saves anyone who watches a ton of effort and expense just knowing a place and which components to start with. Thank you
Oh man! I’m glad I decided to watch your older videos! I have a 788 in a .243 that I want to build, but I just can’t do it because the factory barrel on it will shoot 1/4” groups all day with factory rem core lokts. I feel like no matter how much “upgrades” I want to do to it, it won’t be an upgrade at all. Awesome video and I’ve learned so much from you and your channel! Keep the videos coming!
Merry Christmas from Australia 🇦🇺. Finally one that I can comment on. I have a Ruger M77 Mk1 in 22-250 which has a 1:14 twist. I have loads that use 55gr projectiles from Nosler (orange ballistic tip), and Berger VLD, both of which group exceptionally well at 100m. I have also achieved sub MOA groups using the Sierra 63gr semi-point projectiles. All of my loads use ADI 2208 (which I understand to be your Varget), in Norma or Lapua brass and FedGM210 primers. I look forward to the remainder of this series. Thanks for the great videos. Shane.
Thanks for watching, brother! And thanks for the info about what's working for you. I love hearing from you guys down in Australia. You all are my #3 country when it comes to views, after the US and Canada.
I’ve got a 1:14 22-250 that shoots 55gr well at 100 yards but after 100 yds they lose stability and the groups open up to 3-4inches. I understand that to be a stability problem bc if you run the numbers thro a bullet twist app then they show as being marginal. I also have a 338 with the same trouble with the heavier bullets.
This video has a lot of the interesting facets of reloading that make it fun and draw people in, and would be good to show beginners for how much changing components can affect things for the better are worse. I love it!
Merry Christmas. I hope you are able to spend some quality time with your loved ones. always love it when you use stuff that is connected to your grandfather. shows this channel is not about chasing the newest shiniest stuff.
.22-250 works very well with H380/IMR4064/IMR4895. H380 got it's name, when Bruce Hodgdon was testing a new powder. In a .22-250, at 38.0 grains ....it was shooting one hole groups at their test range............So the new powder was named H380. ( from the Hodgdon loading manual number 26 page 11 )
Donald... I handload 9 different calibers.. my 22_250 model 788. Probably hands down my favorite... It took 100 s of experimental loads.. different powders n tips of different grains to achieve what i was looking for... I found two opposite loads that fly on top of each other @ 200 yds with no scope adjustment... I kid u not!!!! A 50 gr Winchester ballistic silvertip with 38 grs of H 380... And a 55 gr Hornady v max with 35.5 grs of IMR4895..... Dime groups at 200 yrds... We have competition shooting matches here in North Carolina... I'm barred from using the 22_250.... No one can beat it.....😁🇱🇷🇱🇷
I had a Kimber 84M Varmint in a 22-250 and IMR4320, a powder I'd previously had exceptional experience with and this particular one was no exception. IMR4320 with a 55 grain Sierra Blitzking, I could cover all of my 8 shots up with a dime.
@@bmstylee They are known to be. I've heard figures as low as 1200 rounds. Even then, that's just accuracy degrading a bit. I feel like my Savage 110 has already paid for itself at 500 rounds or so, and it is still going strong. That's an easy sub half minute rifle. I'll take 1200 accurate shots over 5000 mediocre ones.
@@bmstylee Barrels are cheap and performance is priceless. I refuse to join the "omg barrel burner" crowd! Life's too short to worry about barrel life. :)
The 788 22-250 I was shooting back in college (new in box, had been stored in the back of an old lady's closet because her husband got pissed at her for buying it 15 years earlier as it couldn't be used for deer hunting in that state) put 5 rounds of factory moly coated ammo (been too long to remember exact details) consistently into ragged holes at 100 yards (outdoor range but wind protected). Once I found that moly ammo, I bought one box every week (it was all I could afford to shoot in college), took it to the range, and drilled holes into the center of 1" pasters. I had no idea at that time that it would, 22 years later, be the single most repeatably accurate rifle I have ever shot, period, even after I got into shooting and began handloading years later. I don't want to get into why I don't have it and I am still bitter.
Hey Johnny I reload for 22-250 A LOT and have learned with a 1-12 or 1-14 twist barrel the flat base bullets always perform much better than boat tails.
JD Kirane my savage likes those bullets also. What powder, how many grains, and what OAL gives you your best groups if you don’t mind sharing ? My only complaint with those bullets is trying to get them to start in the case got any suggestions for that ?
I've noticed that to. Spitzer round from sierra I think is the last I used that went straight. Boat tails floundered in the air and would land sideways and whatnot. I was like...whuuut😵 Then I read somewhere 🤔🤷 that boattails need higher pressure to fly straight. I might try them again and go max load or something.
I am about to get back into reloading. 50 years ago, I purchased a 700 ADL in 6mm Rem. I knew I could only afford one centerfire rifle, and I wanted to hunt varmints and deer, so I settled on the 6MM, I wanted a 22-250, but thought it would be light for deer out west. It served me well, I shot the heck out of it and reloaded the brass, from 60 grain Herters bullets to 95 grain Nosler ballistic tips, and many in between. I shot the barrel out of the rifle with hot varmint loads, and then it developed a trigger problem. The gun was not safe, as occasionally it would fire, when lowering the bolt. By this time I had acquired a 700BDL in 300 win mag. I stopped shooting the 6mm in 1986, and used the 300 win mag for deer out west. Well, fast forward to 2022, I purchased a 22-250 Remington take off barrel 24 inch heavy, never fired, a varmint stock, and a stainless Remington trigger, all on Ebay. for less than $200. I had a local gunsmith, install the barrel and trigger, thread the barrel for a can, and put it all together. I am going to get that gun sighted and start working up loads. The old 700 action is the only part of this new varmint rifle I am using. I expect some good times to be had. With this rifle I am going to go after the legendary 1/2 mile Prairie Dog. Wish me luck!.
As a newb, I enjoyed seeing you work through the problem areas. Sharing your insights and thought process is extremely helpful and much appreciated!!! Thanks for a good video!
I had a .22-250 back in the 80's. 700 Remington BDL with a Weaver scope. I used IMR 3031, Sierra 52 grain BTHP, I think 32 or 38 grains of powder, and it would shoot hole for hole. Try the 3031.
You may find it in odd spots. Some are marked on the chamber end face (may be lost when chambered) or may have ended up facing the barrel channel in the stock. As for chambering so many don't have that when they leave the barrel makers and are done by a gunsmith. It would be up to them to mark it. Caliber is kind of incidental once chambered but that info as well as Twist could/should be marked once chambering is chosen. Check preferredbarrelblanks.com/ for picture of marked unfinished barrels
@@paulvenn4447 Criterion Barrels roll Mark their pre-fit barrels with the chamber and twist rate so it shows on any rifle. Shilen marks their barrels on the breech end. You can't see it once it is installed.
One thing I wish all companies would do: have an idea submission area and ACTUALLY take advice from their customers. Shocking the concept but I think it’d only help them. The ceo should not be making the technical decisions but they do.
The timing of this video could not have been more perfect. My new 22-250 rifle arrives tomorrow and so I am watching and taking some notes. I appreciate you spending so so much time on this video. Your editing skills and commentary are well thought out. Thank you!
Thank you for this video, I am very grateful to you for the diverse amount of information that you managed to pack into it and I am very glad that I sat though it twice to make very sure that I absorbed all of its finer details, you solved my Hornady 53grn projectile (missing load information) questions and eventual problems in one go and that is very valuable to me.
It is interesting reading the large number of comments from people who seem to like the 22.250. Well as a professional shooter here in Australia, I have tried the 22.250 and although it was a nice little gun, and basically accurate to a point, I found that when I changed the case to Ackley improved, my accuracy improved dramatically. In fact after using this rifle for some time I changed all my rifles to be Ackley Improved. Aside from the Remington in 22. 250, I use .243 improved and 30.06 case with a 6 millimetre bullet. Each and every one of these rifles shoot really well. I don’t have the loading specs at present.
I take back what i said about the shot marker, its really cool and showing both the shot marker and your lovingly hand crafted target is really freakin cool
The 22-250 Remington is an excellent cartridge but nobody has given enough time an attention to make something good , but seems like the godfather of reloading has the ability to take the best of it, really hope the next new load will be the iconic 30-06 that is almost forgotten because of new arrival on the radar! Happy holidays man!
@@danietkissenle it's not but 100+ years of technical advancements have made it less desirable. Not really used outside of the Garand and hunting rifles.
@@danietkissenle bullet advances and in all fairness a 6.5 can do just about anything the 06 can with less recoil. Same with the 1911. It's an antique and obsolete design that people hold onto for whatever reason. If I am taking a 30 Cal round it's a 300 win mag. Significantly more power and marginally more recoil. Only downside is the belt.
Merry Christmas. So awesome it's a new video series. 22-250 was the very first round I ever reloaded for in a Stevens 200 22-250 with a 1/12 twist. It's now a 308 but I'm wanting another 22-250 barrel in 26 in with a faster twist. Excited for this series.
I was so happy to see the shotmarker picking up all the shots perfectly. I'm hoping more of the audience will come to love it once I switch over to it completely. I'm really happy with the system so far.
Wow, blast from the past. Shot woodchucks with my 22-250 in the 70s. Great gun. Favorite load was 4895 at 3800 to 3900 fps using Sierra or Hornady 53 GR HP. Very accurate and 300 yard hit is explosive!
I have been reloading 22-250 for 15yrs. As well as 220swift an 225win. My go to bullets for the 250 has always been sierra bullets an imr 4064 powder. Douglas barrel is not to far from me have a custom built 6.5x284 with a douglas barrel great shooter.
Douglas is probably too busy fulfilling their big military contracts to play the social media game and advertise like most companies do these days. They probably don't need much of the retail business. More people should know just how awesome they are!
On the subject of barrel twist for .22-250: As with a lot of other calibers, the best twist rate depends a great deal on the length of the barrel. With a 22 - 24" barrel a 14" or even 16" for lighter bullets is just fine. 16 - 20" barrels that don't make the velocity of the longer barrels and must have a faster twist. I have had a 22" and a 20" .22-250, both with 1:14 twist. Both shot under 1" at 200 yards with good ammo. Depending on your ammo, temperature can very definitely change your zero and group size. My 20" Ruger light weight barrel was very much affected by ambient temperatures and barrel heat.
If you measure the headspace on the modified case and then measure the same on your fireformed piece of brass, you can see the difference and then use that to adjust your actual CBTO to work with your fireformed brass. Yes, modifying an actual case can be done, but it isn’t necessary as long as you have a piece that’s fireformed to your chamber. Merry Christmas JRB! Edit: use the Sinclair primer seating tool! Yes, the lazy in me wants one that holds the primers to help speed up reloading, but the OCD in me wants the quality and ease of seating and the feel you have with it! Edit 2: my 10th edition of the Hornady manual, both the digital and the printed copy have data for the 53gr v-max in the 22-250 Remington. No data for 6.5Staball powder obviously, but it does for pretty much every other powder.
Very good point about comparing the headspace between your generic modified case and a fired case. I'll be sure to mention that in the next video. I have NO IDEA how the hell I missed the 53gr Vmax in the manuals. I'll be sure to let everybody know in the next video. It's right there in my 10th edition and on the app. I seriously have no idea how I screwed that up. I tend to think of this bullet as "heavier", so I must have been looking for 63gr instead of 53gr, or something stupid like that. I'm intrigued to see that they show an OAL of 2.350" in the manual. That ogive was definitely below the case mouth at that OAL. Interesting.
About 45 years ago, I had a friend that bought a new Sako in .22-250. It was a beautiful gun that he paid about $500 for-a substantial sum at the time. The rifle shot very, very well, especially with his hand loads. He had it about two months and the longer he admired the finish, he decided that he didn't want to put such a beautiful rifle in the back of his old IH Scout. He went to a local discount store and bought one of theses 788's for $90. Lo and behold, the cheap'o Remington shot better than the Sako. Having no need for two of the same caliber, he sold the Sako.
Watching the video for the 2nd time now because I finally got some stuff in to reload for 22-250 can't wait until you make the next video on this!!! If you're going to buy a 22-250 you might want to look at the Ruger M77 Hawkeye that thing is a sweet shooting rifle. I just bought one so I can retire my custom 22-250 I inherited from my grandfather. It was a gorgeous rifle with a high polished blued barrel and wood stock that I didn't like taking it out in the woods or rain because I didn't want to mess it up.
Another excellent video. Beautiful rifle and great work on the loads. Thank you for putting in all the effort and filming as you go, then sharing it with us. Excellent video. I will never understand why someone would give your video a 'thumbs down'. Have a great day.
the best brass I ever reloaded 22-250 with was Hornady. over many years I shot the brass till when fired the ejected brass the primers would fall out . I shot many brands of brass but Hornady brass always serves me best. Nana and papa the hunter wishing you well
OMG, a movie length video! I made it through, but I did fast forward through the loading portion a bit. I was happy to see you loading for the .22-250, but somewhat disappointed you have to go with the lighter bullets, because of the slow twist. Mine is a 1:12 twist and I’ve shot the 60 grain bullets without any issues. I really like the 50 to 55 grain bullets. Not much of a fan of the less than 50 grain bullets as they drift too much in the wind. Looking forward to the rest of the videos in this series. Keep up the good work!
A bit of a rocky start, but you'll be getting some consistent sub half moa groups in no time. The wandering Magneto Speed wasn't doing you any favors in the accuracy department. Your idea on gathering velocities with the Shot Marker should work out fine. I would also ditch the Winchester brass. It wouldn't be worth the effort. I've never had a good experience with Win ammo or components. The stabilization problems were interesting as well. That Douglas has to be a 1-14" twist. My 1-12" Savage loves the 53gr Varmageddon. I just joined your channel, happy to help out. Merry Christmas. Looking forward to the next 22-250 installment.
I am really temped to do just that...dump the Win brass and maybe buy another box of Norma. However, I think it's an interesting topic to cover and explore...just how much work it will take to get it working well. Even if it only helps people justify the big $$$$ for Lapua or Norma, it feels like something I should explore. I don't want it to take over the series. I really want to focus on working up loads, so if annealing or maybe a little neck turning doesn't do the trick, I'll just dump them in the trash and move on. Thanks for the membership!
@Johnny's Reloading Bench. I was thinking the same. Look at the position of your magneto speed from 1h:30m to 1h:35m, it starts off about 2" from the muzzle and later it almost falling off the barrel. Haha commented too early, you saw that.
I just saw a ad for a new federal bullet. It is called terminal ascent it is in .264 and .308 and a few others. Maybe a new 6.5 Creedmoor candidate. Thanks for the awesome videos. You have made me want to start reloading.
I like hand priming tools also and then I ran into the same issue as you did with the Norma tight primer pockets. So I got one of the Lee bench-mount priming tools. Way more muscle to deal with tight pockets.
You will love your auto bench prime . Just be sure you hold the case level and you'll have no problem. I have primed 500pcs of .223 in just over a hour. Although the video was a bit long you have a lot of information to work with. Keep up the good work.👍
All in all, a very nice video. Good info on the whole process. All handloaders have problems. I always lube the inside of the neck with powdered graphite on a Q-tip before sizing. I've had bad luck with Winchester brass. One bag had 50 pieces (half the bag) where the new cases would not fit in the chambers of two of my rifles. I full-length resized three of them, and they STILL wouldn't fit! Can't say I understand that, but there it is. Sent them back, they gave me a new bag. Overly tight primer pockets make my head ache when I'm loading. You should consider either cleaning between groups so that each load has the same amount of 'dirtiness' or shoot the groups together, switching targets between each shot. The jury may be out on whether or not hanging that velocity meter on the barrel is a good idea.
Shot grey diggers at 400yds with 22-250 back in the 80's. Amazing! Winchester model 70. Vapor traces and pink mist. Hit dirt pile at their feet absolutely explosive
I had a Rem 788 in 22-250 and I loved it. I could download it so the kids could shoot targets and up the load to a 70gr semi-spitzer for whitetail deer. I traded it when I moved to Colorado because caliber requirements for big game were a bit different. Wish I had kept it for coyotes.
Awesome video buddy! Enjoyed the whole thing. Good to see the good and the bad. I have a 788 in .308. All stock. Great gun. You will get this one figured out I'm sure. Once again thanks for taking the time to explain the process.
Enjoy your videos greatly! I used to shoot a 22-250Ackley improved, that Nelson Berger built for me. It was a heavy contour Douglas barrel with a 14" twist. It shot one hole groups with 55gr nosler ballistic tips and IMR 3031 powder. It shot good groups with the same powder/bullet combination as a standard 22-250, but I had to push the envelope on pressure and velocity a bit too high in order to get good accuracy, hence the switch to Ackley improved.
Great video. I learned alot from it. I am getting ready to start my 22 250 test rounds with factory base lines. It is a savage axis 22". I love your videos. Be safe. Be happy. And send it.
I have some of the partitions. I will pull them out later in the series to compare with the 55gr Gold Dot. Partitions are legendary bullets and I'm not surprised to hear they are hammers for hogs.
Got to love the partitions. I use them in evrything that will shoot them well enough to hunt with. Lol which is about very rifle I have ever owned. I have recently switched to the eld x bullets but my heart still stands with nosler partitions.
Am looking forward to more of the 22 250 vids I am so close to buying on in a tikka its not funny. If you hadnt talked into buying a 6.5 creed in a t/c compass I would. Lol thanks johnny
First things first. Amazing video. You really put in the effort to be thorough. This is my first video of your channel and I just got a Marlin 22-250 and was curious about loading my own brass and when I watched this video.... Well I think I might just not do that.. this was a lot to think about. But if I am then I will definitely be watching this multiple time for this stuff to stick in my head. Keep it up!
With those Norma primer pockets, try running those cases on your prep center with a primer pocket uniforming bit. That, and try the lee Auto Bench Prime. Like all tools, it has it's quirks, but once you work with it a bit, you'll find it to be a nice addition to your bench. Plus, your thumbs will love you!
Ive long held 22-250 as my favorite caliber for plinking and small game hunting. 36 grains of IMR 4895 under a SS109. Hope to see more of this stuff. Your channel is my favorite channel.
Awsome video watch allway to the end . Wait for more on this 22.250 work up. Live in pa are loss for deer is 6mm here no 22cal for deer. I've herd guys say 22 hornet and 22 k- hornet is both awesome deer calibers.
Verry nice. I just got the 77gr tmks to shoot over 24 gr of CFE 223. Been a long time coming. Moving houses and having to set everything back up from scratch in the middle of load development Edit: 77gr tmk in .223. My first ever std dev in the single digits.
37.4g of 2000MR pushing a 60TMK is amazing. Supersonic to 1k. I took my longest kill on a groundhog at 318y with this load. Also went 2 for 3 at 700y 1st time out. 53g Vmax with 38.8g of RL16 pushes 3600fps and is a great hunting load. This all came out of a Savage Axis 1/12. Good luck!
Did you ever go ahead with a fast twist 22-250? I built a 7 twist using a 26" shilen on a model 12 action in a Boyd's stock I bedded. Slings 90 and 95 grain projectiles. The 90 grain Berger vld are supernatural. When my savage was still a factory 12 twist I used the 53 grain vmax. Awesome varmint bullet. That barrel must be a 14 twist as a 12 twist will stabilize the 53 grain vmax. My brother has a TC Compass in 22-250 with a 14 twist tube. He slings the 40 grain vmax for coyotes around the farm.
Been taking mule deer and white tail with 55 grain Remington rounds since I was 13 with my grandpas Remington 788 I'm 22 rn and still use it every chance I get
With Winchester brass I had one in 223 that didn't have a flash hole. Gotta watch for that as well. Will be watching this series on load development. I've only loaded a few in 22-250 and then only used H380 powder. Not done really any load development even though I've had this rifles for over 30 yrs.
Sigh, just passed on a Howa 1500 22-250 varmint rifle I found at my local Cabela’s gun library. Wish I’d picked it up so I can follow along, now. Can’t wait to see what accuracy you can get out of that Douglas barrel!
Thanks!
I'm about a year late here Johnny, but that's ok. Truth never changes and the information you put out saves anyone who watches a ton of effort and expense just knowing a place and which components to start with. Thank you
The magnito is making larger groups. It is loose and changes the harmonics. The last target improved with the magnito off the end of the barrel.
I was thinking the same thing, I wouldn’t want that hanging on the end of the barrel.😮
Oh man! I’m glad I decided to watch your older videos! I have a 788 in a .243 that I want to build, but I just can’t do it because the factory barrel on it will shoot 1/4” groups all day with factory rem core lokts. I feel like no matter how much “upgrades” I want to do to it, it won’t be an upgrade at all. Awesome video and I’ve learned so much from you and your channel! Keep the videos coming!
I love the .22-250. I have 4 of them 1 in 1:14 twist 2 in 1:10 twist, and a new one that I've not fired yet 1:8 twist. Thanks for the .22-250 series
77 barnes lrx bad ass deer load
Merry Christmas from Australia 🇦🇺. Finally one that I can comment on. I have a Ruger M77 Mk1 in 22-250 which has a 1:14 twist. I have loads that use 55gr projectiles from Nosler (orange ballistic tip), and Berger VLD, both of which group exceptionally well at 100m. I have also achieved sub MOA groups using the Sierra 63gr semi-point projectiles. All of my loads use ADI 2208 (which I understand to be your Varget), in Norma or Lapua brass and FedGM210 primers. I look forward to the remainder of this series. Thanks for the great videos. Shane.
Thanks for watching, brother! And thanks for the info about what's working for you. I love hearing from you guys down in Australia. You all are my #3 country when it comes to views, after the US and Canada.
I’ve got a 1:14 22-250 that shoots 55gr well at 100 yards but after 100 yds they lose stability and the groups open up to 3-4inches. I understand that to be a stability problem bc if you run the numbers thro a bullet twist app then they show as being marginal. I also have a 338 with the same trouble with the heavier bullets.
Wedge - how many grains of the 2208 for your results?
This video has a lot of the interesting facets of reloading that make it fun and draw people in, and would be good to show beginners for how much changing components can affect things for the better are worse. I love it!
Merry Christmas. I hope you are able to spend some quality time with your loved ones. always love it when you use stuff that is connected to your grandfather. shows this channel is not about chasing the newest shiniest stuff.
.22-250 works very well with H380/IMR4064/IMR4895. H380 got it's name, when Bruce Hodgdon was testing a new powder. In a .22-250, at 38.0 grains ....it was shooting one hole groups at their test range............So the new powder was named H380. ( from the Hodgdon loading manual number 26 page 11 )
Donald... I handload 9 different calibers.. my 22_250 model 788. Probably hands down my favorite... It took 100 s of experimental loads.. different powders n tips of different grains to achieve what i was looking for... I found two opposite loads that fly on top of each other @ 200 yds with no scope adjustment... I kid u not!!!! A 50 gr Winchester ballistic silvertip with 38 grs of H 380... And a 55 gr Hornady v max with 35.5 grs of IMR4895..... Dime groups at 200 yrds... We have competition shooting matches here in North Carolina... I'm barred from using the 22_250.... No one can beat it.....😁🇱🇷🇱🇷
I had a Kimber 84M Varmint in a 22-250 and IMR4320, a powder I'd previously had exceptional experience with and this particular one was no exception. IMR4320 with a 55 grain Sierra Blitzking, I could cover all of my 8 shots up with a dime.
If youre watching and havent ever shot a 22-250, you should. Its one of the most fun cartridges to shoot. Big crack, low recoil, high power.
It's my go to Woodchuck slayer.
Is it a barrel killer? Lots of powder smoking down a small hole.
@@bmstylee They are known to be. I've heard figures as low as 1200 rounds. Even then, that's just accuracy degrading a bit. I feel like my Savage 110 has already paid for itself at 500 rounds or so, and it is still going strong. That's an easy sub half minute rifle. I'll take 1200 accurate shots over 5000 mediocre ones.
@@bmstylee Barrels are cheap and performance is priceless. I refuse to join the "omg barrel burner" crowd! Life's too short to worry about barrel life. :)
@@JohnnysReloadingBench absolutely. 6.5 Creedmoor isn't easy on barells but I love my Bergara.
Rem. 788 one of the best rifles Remington ever made even with the factory barrel.
My 223 788 had the bolt fall off ! Shooting factory loads.
The 788 22-250 I was shooting back in college (new in box, had been stored in the back of an old lady's closet because her husband got pissed at her for buying it 15 years earlier as it couldn't be used for deer hunting in that state) put 5 rounds of factory moly coated ammo (been too long to remember exact details) consistently into ragged holes at 100 yards (outdoor range but wind protected). Once I found that moly ammo, I bought one box every week (it was all I could afford to shoot in college), took it to the range, and drilled holes into the center of 1" pasters.
I had no idea at that time that it would, 22 years later, be the single most repeatably accurate rifle I have ever shot, period, even after I got into shooting and began handloading years later. I don't want to get into why I don't have it and I am still bitter.
@@sapago4166 maybe the best love story I’ve ever heard. I’m sorry for your loss brother ❤️
@@Harry-pf5lc I feel understood.
@@sapago4166 my 788. 22_250 bought new in rapid city SD 1977 new..... i still shoot it. after 1000s of rds. still puts out nickel groups at 200 yds
I have no desire to own a 22-250 rifle and most likely never will. But I watched every second of this video. That’s how good your videos are 👍
Thank you !!!! Brings back memories of my late Dad.....loved his 788 Bull Barrel..... swore by it !!!!!!
Hey Johnny I reload for 22-250 A LOT and have learned with a 1-12 or 1-14 twist barrel the flat base bullets always perform much better than boat tails.
I have seen the same with my Remington 700 in 22-250. Mine likes 53 grain Nosler Varmageddon bullets.
This is 100% correct. I experienced the same with my factory Savage 1:12 twist barrel.
Found exactly the same out of my 1:14 Tikka. When I rebarrel, I'm thinking of using 1:10. Got about 500-600 rounds life
JD Kirane my savage likes those bullets also. What powder, how many grains, and what OAL gives you your best groups if you don’t mind sharing ? My only complaint with those bullets is trying to get them to start in the case got any suggestions for that ?
I've noticed that to.
Spitzer round from sierra I think is the last I used that went straight.
Boat tails floundered in the air and would land sideways and whatnot.
I was like...whuuut😵
Then I read somewhere 🤔🤷 that boattails need higher pressure to fly straight.
I might try them again and go max load or something.
Fun to watch, and educational, and I'm thinking of buying a 22-250 rifle for deer, and varmints and coyotes! Love the show!
Now this is a Christmas gift, merry Christmas jrb
Super cool you grew up with a grandpa like that. Great work as usual. 👍
I think working through the problems is what keeps reloading interesting Merry Christmas Johnny
Very much so sir. I believe the something. Sometimes it seems like you'll never find that sweet spot but I have always found it in my travels.
I am about to get back into reloading. 50 years ago, I purchased a 700 ADL in 6mm Rem. I knew I could only afford one centerfire rifle, and I wanted to hunt varmints and deer, so I settled on the 6MM, I wanted a 22-250, but thought it would be light for deer out west. It served me well, I shot the heck out of it and reloaded the brass, from 60 grain Herters bullets to 95 grain Nosler ballistic tips, and many in between. I shot the barrel out of the rifle with hot varmint loads, and then it developed a trigger problem. The gun was not safe, as occasionally it would fire, when lowering the bolt. By this time I had acquired a 700BDL in 300 win mag. I stopped shooting the 6mm in 1986, and used the 300 win mag for deer out west. Well, fast forward to 2022, I purchased a 22-250 Remington take off barrel 24 inch heavy, never fired, a varmint stock, and a stainless Remington trigger, all on Ebay. for less than $200. I had a local gunsmith, install the barrel and trigger, thread the barrel for a can, and put it all together. I am going to get that gun sighted and start working up loads. The old 700 action is the only part of this new varmint rifle I am using. I expect some good times to be had. With this rifle I am going to go after the legendary 1/2 mile Prairie Dog. Wish me luck!.
I love the fact that you put out a Christmas special
As a newb, I enjoyed seeing you work through the problem areas. Sharing your insights and thought process is extremely helpful and much appreciated!!! Thanks for a good video!
I had a .22-250 back in the 80's. 700 Remington BDL with a Weaver scope. I used IMR 3031, Sierra 52 grain BTHP, I think 32 or 38 grains of powder, and it would shoot hole for hole. Try the 3031.
one thing I wish barrel makers would do is put cal, and barrel twist on the barrel.
You may find it in odd spots. Some are marked on the chamber end face (may be lost when chambered) or may have ended up facing the barrel channel in the stock. As for chambering so many don't have that when they leave the barrel makers and are done by a gunsmith. It would be up to them to mark it. Caliber is kind of incidental once chambered but that info as well as Twist could/should be marked once chambering is chosen.
Check preferredbarrelblanks.com/ for picture of marked unfinished barrels
Makes me fricken CRAZY!!
Wait, what barrel makers dont do that lol?
@@paulvenn4447 Criterion Barrels roll Mark their pre-fit barrels with the chamber and twist rate so it shows on any rifle. Shilen marks their barrels on the breech end. You can't see it once it is installed.
One thing I wish all companies would do: have an idea submission area and ACTUALLY take advice from their customers. Shocking the concept but I think it’d only help them. The ceo should not be making the technical decisions but they do.
when it comes to priming thank god for the r.c.b.s. bench mount priming tool
The timing of this video could not have been more perfect. My new 22-250 rifle arrives tomorrow and so I am watching and taking some notes. I appreciate you spending so so much time on this video. Your editing skills and commentary are well thought out. Thank you!
Thank you for this video, I am very grateful to you for the diverse amount of information that you managed to pack into it and I am very glad that I sat though it twice to make very sure that I absorbed all of its finer details, you solved my Hornady 53grn projectile (missing load information) questions and eventual problems in one go and that is very valuable to me.
Whooo hooo a gift from JRB christmas morning.. thank you SANTA...
Merry Christmas johnny
29:48 I’d be making a phone call to Norma. Tell em they owe you 8 pieces of brass. With the price you pay for Norma, you should be receiving quality.
Well worth the time spent and I always use mag primers with ball powders. Thanks.
It is interesting reading the large number of comments from people who seem to like the 22.250. Well as a professional shooter here in Australia, I have tried the 22.250 and although it was a nice little gun, and basically accurate to a point, I found that when I changed the case to Ackley improved, my accuracy improved dramatically. In fact after using this rifle for some time I changed all my rifles to be Ackley Improved. Aside from the Remington in 22. 250, I use .243 improved and 30.06 case with a 6 millimetre bullet. Each and every one of these rifles shoot really well. I don’t have the loading specs at present.
I take back what i said about the shot marker, its really cool and showing both the shot marker and your lovingly hand crafted target is really freakin cool
I have 2 RCBS hand priming tools, one for large,one for small primers. Very happy with them.
The 22-250 Remington is an excellent cartridge but nobody has given enough time an attention to make something good , but seems like the godfather of reloading has the ability to take the best of it, really hope the next new load will be the iconic 30-06 that is almost forgotten because of new arrival on the radar! Happy holidays man!
Who thinks the -06 is forgotten
danietkissenle love my Springfield 30-06 couldn’t be without it
@@danietkissenle it's not but 100+ years of technical advancements have made it less desirable. Not really used outside of the Garand and hunting rifles.
@@bmstylee what technological advancements exactly do you speak of? Just because it's old doesn't make it out of date
@@danietkissenle bullet advances and in all fairness a 6.5 can do just about anything the 06 can with less recoil. Same with the 1911. It's an antique and obsolete design that people hold onto for whatever reason. If I am taking a 30 Cal round it's a 300 win mag. Significantly more power and marginally more recoil. Only downside is the belt.
A bellyful of turkey and a Johnny vid. It's like Christmas. 🎄
Merry Christmas. So awesome it's a new video series. 22-250 was the very first round I ever reloaded for in a Stevens 200 22-250 with a 1/12 twist. It's now a 308 but I'm wanting another 22-250 barrel in 26 in with a faster twist. Excited for this series.
The way you've split the screens to incorporate the target sensor program is great. Merry Christmas, Johnny!
I was so happy to see the shotmarker picking up all the shots perfectly. I'm hoping more of the audience will come to love it once I switch over to it completely. I'm really happy with the system so far.
Wow, blast from the past. Shot woodchucks with my 22-250 in the 70s. Great gun. Favorite load was 4895 at 3800 to 3900 fps using Sierra or Hornady 53 GR HP. Very accurate and 300 yard hit is explosive!
I have been reloading 22-250 for 15yrs. As well as 220swift an 225win. My go to bullets for the 250 has always been sierra bullets an imr 4064 powder. Douglas barrel is not to far from me have a custom built 6.5x284 with a douglas barrel great shooter.
Douglas is probably too busy fulfilling their big military contracts to play the social media game and advertise like most companies do these days. They probably don't need much of the retail business. More people should know just how awesome they are!
@@JohnnysReloadingBench there good people they always got time for us little folks..
I have that bench mounted priming tool for 2 years so far and I like it.
On the subject of barrel twist for .22-250: As with a lot of other calibers, the best twist rate depends a great deal on the length of the barrel. With a 22 - 24" barrel a 14" or even 16" for lighter bullets is just fine. 16 - 20" barrels that don't make the velocity of the longer barrels and must have a faster twist. I have had a 22" and a 20" .22-250, both with 1:14 twist. Both shot under 1" at 200 yards with good ammo.
Depending on your ammo, temperature can very definitely change your zero and group size. My 20" Ruger light weight barrel was very much affected by ambient temperatures and barrel heat.
I m realy happy that i found your channel😃. A bunch of knowledge in one mans hand 🤚
If you measure the headspace on the modified case and then measure the same on your fireformed piece of brass, you can see the difference and then use that to adjust your actual CBTO to work with your fireformed brass. Yes, modifying an actual case can be done, but it isn’t necessary as long as you have a piece that’s fireformed to your chamber.
Merry Christmas JRB!
Edit: use the Sinclair primer seating tool! Yes, the lazy in me wants one that holds the primers to help speed up reloading, but the OCD in me wants the quality and ease of seating and the feel you have with it!
Edit 2: my 10th edition of the Hornady manual, both the digital and the printed copy have data for the 53gr v-max in the 22-250 Remington. No data for 6.5Staball powder obviously, but it does for pretty much every other powder.
Very good point about comparing the headspace between your generic modified case and a fired case. I'll be sure to mention that in the next video.
I have NO IDEA how the hell I missed the 53gr Vmax in the manuals. I'll be sure to let everybody know in the next video. It's right there in my 10th edition and on the app. I seriously have no idea how I screwed that up. I tend to think of this bullet as "heavier", so I must have been looking for 63gr instead of 53gr, or something stupid like that.
I'm intrigued to see that they show an OAL of 2.350" in the manual. That ogive was definitely below the case mouth at that OAL. Interesting.
I always had good luck with H380 41grs and Sierra 55gr Spitzer boat tail. Very good video.
I really hope you revisit the .22-250. You run a great channel really enjoy the videos, and learn a lot.
199 pieces of brass in the box, 199 pieces of brass, take one out, crack the case mouth, 198 pieces of brass in the box...
Shot thousands of rounds and never split a neck
Brush this was to funny ☠️😂
Super excited for this series!!!!! I'm building a 22-284 when the components arrive.
About 45 years ago, I had a friend that bought a new Sako in .22-250. It was a beautiful gun that he paid about $500 for-a substantial sum at the time. The rifle shot very, very well, especially with his hand loads. He had it about two months and the longer he admired the finish, he decided that he didn't want to put such a beautiful rifle in the back of his old IH Scout. He went to a local discount store and bought one of theses 788's for $90. Lo and behold, the cheap'o Remington shot better than the Sako. Having no need for two of the same caliber, he sold the Sako.
Watching the video for the 2nd time now because I finally got some stuff in to reload for 22-250 can't wait until you make the next video on this!!! If you're going to buy a 22-250 you might want to look at the Ruger M77 Hawkeye that thing is a sweet shooting rifle. I just bought one so I can retire my custom 22-250 I inherited from my grandfather. It was a gorgeous rifle with a high polished blued barrel and wood stock that I didn't like taking it out in the woods or rain because I didn't want to mess it up.
Another excellent video. Beautiful rifle and great work on the loads. Thank you for putting in all the effort and filming as you go, then sharing it with us. Excellent video. I will never understand why someone would give your video a 'thumbs down'. Have a great day.
the best brass I ever reloaded 22-250 with was Hornady. over many years I shot the brass till when fired the ejected brass the primers would fall out . I shot many brands of brass but Hornady brass always serves me best. Nana and papa the hunter wishing you well
My first centerfire was a 788 in 222Rem. Loved that rifle. Accurate as heck.
OMG, a movie length video! I made it through, but I did fast forward through the loading portion a bit. I was happy to see you loading for the .22-250, but somewhat disappointed you have to go with the lighter bullets, because of the slow twist. Mine is a 1:12 twist and I’ve shot the 60 grain bullets without any issues. I really like the 50 to 55 grain bullets. Not much of a fan of the less than 50 grain bullets as they drift too much in the wind. Looking forward to the rest of the videos in this series. Keep up the good work!
Yes I've been waiting long time for these videos
A bit of a rocky start, but you'll be getting some consistent sub half moa groups in no time. The wandering Magneto Speed wasn't doing you any favors in the accuracy department. Your idea on gathering velocities with the Shot Marker should work out fine. I would also ditch the Winchester brass. It wouldn't be worth the effort. I've never had a good experience with Win ammo or components. The stabilization problems were interesting as well. That Douglas has to be a 1-14" twist. My 1-12" Savage loves the 53gr Varmageddon. I just joined your channel, happy to help out. Merry Christmas. Looking forward to the next 22-250 installment.
I am really temped to do just that...dump the Win brass and maybe buy another box of Norma. However, I think it's an interesting topic to cover and explore...just how much work it will take to get it working well. Even if it only helps people justify the big $$$$ for Lapua or Norma, it feels like something I should explore. I don't want it to take over the series. I really want to focus on working up loads, so if annealing or maybe a little neck turning doesn't do the trick, I'll just dump them in the trash and move on.
Thanks for the membership!
@Johnny's Reloading Bench. I was thinking the same. Look at the position of your magneto speed from 1h:30m to 1h:35m, it starts off about 2" from the muzzle and later it almost falling off the barrel. Haha commented too early, you saw that.
Been waiting on 22-250 forever! ..keep’em coming .. great video
I just saw a ad for a new federal bullet. It is called terminal ascent it is in .264 and .308 and a few others. Maybe a new 6.5 Creedmoor candidate. Thanks for the awesome videos. You have made me want to start reloading.
I like hand priming tools also and then I ran into the same issue as you did with the Norma tight primer pockets. So I got one of the Lee bench-mount priming tools. Way more muscle to deal with tight pockets.
This was fun as hell. I bought a lee ram prime as a back up. works great.
You will love your auto bench prime . Just be sure you hold the case level and you'll have no problem. I have primed 500pcs of .223 in just over a hour. Although the video was a bit long you have a lot of information to work with. Keep up the good work.👍
Lee yellow scoops, hornady balance scale and a trickler, exact and quick every time.
Finally a fast little flat shooting 22/250! Hell yes thank you sir!😀
A new Johnny video!! Its a Christmas miracle!
All in all, a very nice video. Good info on the whole process. All handloaders have problems. I always lube the inside of the neck with powdered graphite on a Q-tip before sizing. I've had bad luck with Winchester brass. One bag had 50 pieces (half the bag) where the new cases would not fit in the chambers of two of my rifles. I full-length resized three of them, and they STILL wouldn't fit! Can't say I understand that, but there it is. Sent them back, they gave me a new bag. Overly tight primer pockets make my head ache when I'm loading. You should consider either cleaning between groups so that each load has the same amount of 'dirtiness' or shoot the groups together, switching targets between each shot. The jury may be out on whether or not hanging that velocity meter on the barrel is a good idea.
Shot grey diggers at 400yds with 22-250 back in the 80's. Amazing! Winchester model 70. Vapor traces and pink mist. Hit dirt pile at their feet absolutely explosive
I like your way of getting it done!..love the 22-250 very nice rifle...years ago had rem..788 in 222 nice shooter!
I had a Rem 788 in 22-250 and I loved it. I could download it so the kids could shoot targets and up the load to a 70gr semi-spitzer for whitetail deer. I traded it when I moved to Colorado because caliber requirements for big game were a bit different. Wish I had kept it for coyotes.
22-250 on Christmas, what a day, love ya Johnny!
Awesome video buddy! Enjoyed the whole thing. Good to see the good and the bad. I have a 788 in .308. All stock. Great gun. You will get this one figured out I'm sure. Once again thanks for taking the time to explain the process.
Ive got a 788 in .308 ,with a burris scope , its a shooter
Thanks, I really enjoyed watching this video. Kept my attention and it was a normal guy kinda experience. Good job 👍
Enjoy your videos greatly! I used to shoot a 22-250Ackley improved, that Nelson Berger built for me. It was a heavy contour Douglas barrel with a 14" twist. It shot one hole groups with 55gr nosler ballistic tips and IMR 3031 powder. It shot good groups with the same powder/bullet combination as a standard 22-250, but I had to push the envelope on pressure and velocity a bit too high in order to get good accuracy, hence the switch to Ackley improved.
Great video. I learned alot from it. I am getting ready to start my 22 250 test rounds with factory base lines. It is a savage axis 22". I love your videos. Be safe. Be happy. And send it.
Beautiful rifle. I have an old Remington 550-1 which I believe was made in 1942. I like the old Remingtons.
This is an awesome Christmas! We got a great JRB video today!
Had a Rem 700 22-250 and I believe it was 1 in 14 twist.
Awesome cartridge I hunt hogs and deer here in Texas with mine. I load 60gr Nosler Partitions with RL17 and it's a one shot wonder.
I have some of the partitions. I will pull them out later in the series to compare with the 55gr Gold Dot. Partitions are legendary bullets and I'm not surprised to hear they are hammers for hogs.
Got to love the partitions. I use them in evrything that will shoot them well enough to hunt with. Lol which is about very rifle I have ever owned. I have recently switched to the eld x bullets but my heart still stands with nosler partitions.
Am looking forward to more of the 22 250 vids I am so close to buying on in a tikka its not funny. If you hadnt talked into buying a 6.5 creed in a t/c compass I would. Lol thanks johnny
788 is my first 22 250 when it first came out. Reloads shot sub dime groups at 100 yards and also rem factory rounds 55 grain.
First things first. Amazing video. You really put in the effort to be thorough. This is my first video of your channel and I just got a Marlin 22-250 and was curious about loading my own brass and when I watched this video.... Well I think I might just not do that.. this was a lot to think about. But if I am then I will definitely be watching this multiple time for this stuff to stick in my head. Keep it up!
Morning Christmas Present from JRB!
Oh man shooting through the magento strap! Ooof! I really like the longer format videos since I'm new to this.
With those Norma primer pockets, try running those cases on your prep center with a primer pocket uniforming bit. That, and try the lee Auto Bench Prime. Like all tools, it has it's quirks, but once you work with it a bit, you'll find it to be a nice addition to your bench. Plus, your thumbs will love you!
Nice love the 22-250 . Best Christmas present thanks and keep up the great work.
Ive long held 22-250 as my favorite caliber for plinking and small game hunting. 36 grains of IMR 4895 under a SS109. Hope to see more of this stuff. Your channel is my favorite channel.
Whoa...that was like - a major shout out that you gave me!
Thanks for the Holiday entertainment, JRB! Merry Christmas.
Awsome video watch allway to the end . Wait for more on this 22.250 work up. Live in pa are loss for deer is 6mm here no 22cal for deer. I've herd guys say 22 hornet and 22 k- hornet is both awesome deer calibers.
I had a Douglas barrel on my Stevens model 200 in 6BR and was very pleased with the quality.
Best christmas gift yet!
Verry nice. I just got the 77gr tmks to shoot over 24 gr of CFE 223. Been a long time coming. Moving houses and having to set everything back up from scratch in the middle of load development
Edit: 77gr tmk in .223. My first ever std dev in the single digits.
37.4g of 2000MR pushing a 60TMK is amazing. Supersonic to 1k. I took my longest kill on a groundhog at 318y with this load. Also went 2 for 3 at 700y 1st time out. 53g Vmax with 38.8g of RL16 pushes 3600fps and is a great hunting load. This all came out of a Savage Axis 1/12. Good luck!
Benchmark powder and 52 gr amax is a great combo for anything up to deer size game I have found
Very nicely done Johnny. Love the way you make your videos. Lots of information. Keep em coming please. 👍👍👍
Still in the process of getting reloading bench set up. But when I do, I'll be doing 22-250 for a Remington 788 myself. Love the rifles.
Impressive Johnny cleaned up the bench !👍
Great job. I felt your frustration.
Had to work today, you just made it worth it. Thank you, merry Christmas
Would be lovely to be back in the golden years of remington and Winchester.
Did you ever go ahead with a fast twist 22-250?
I built a 7 twist using a 26" shilen on a model 12 action in a Boyd's stock I bedded.
Slings 90 and 95 grain projectiles. The 90 grain Berger vld are supernatural. When my savage was still a factory 12 twist I used the 53 grain vmax. Awesome varmint bullet.
That barrel must be a 14 twist as a 12 twist will stabilize the 53 grain vmax.
My brother has a TC Compass in 22-250 with a 14 twist tube. He slings the 40 grain vmax for coyotes around the farm.
Been taking mule deer and white tail with 55 grain Remington rounds since I was 13 with my grandpas Remington 788 I'm 22 rn and still use it every chance I get
Merry Christmas! Looking forward to watching this later. This is a great cartridge to shoot and reload.
With Winchester brass I had one in 223 that didn't have a flash hole. Gotta watch for that as well. Will be watching this series on load development. I've only loaded a few in 22-250 and then only used H380 powder. Not done really any load development even though I've had this rifles for over 30 yrs.
Sigh, just passed on a Howa 1500 22-250 varmint rifle I found at my local Cabela’s gun library. Wish I’d picked it up so I can follow along, now. Can’t wait to see what accuracy you can get out of that Douglas barrel!