How do Chinese natives learn Mandarin?

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  • Опубліковано 20 тра 2024
  • In this video I will tell you how did natives learn about mandarin, maybe you can apply some steps and methods on your own mandarin learning journey.
    If you want to know more, I you can leave your comments below.
    If you want to practice your mandarin, you can reach to me at jiamingshen99@outlook.com
    And if you want to have the dictionary, here's the link: amzn.to/3PAzD3v (Amazon)

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  • @user-vb8iq1bs2v
    @user-vb8iq1bs2v 29 днів тому +11

    😂When I look at Vietnamese writing, it looks like they just left their Pinyin for writing and live happy with that.

  • @ThatsPety
    @ThatsPety Місяць тому +5

    Great video man. Good to hear from someone who actually learned there

  • @cmaven4762
    @cmaven4762 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for sharing your experience with us. Your description of the early learning of vocabulary and writing seems like it would work well for people use lots of listening practice as they're learning basic Mandarin.

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  Місяць тому +1

      Yes. And I mentioned it in the video. It's not applied to everyone. But if you can find something helpful for you, that will be the best.

  • @unidentifieduser5346
    @unidentifieduser5346 17 днів тому +1

    Hello, do you have any idea for which book or source i can use to learn the origin of chinese language, for example i want to learn anything similar with 心 which is heart and if i mix with another word, that would mean something regarded with emotion.

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  17 днів тому

      What do you mean by "origin" ? How characters change from time to time? or you want to know the characters with the same mean or same radicals?

    • @unidentifieduser5346
      @unidentifieduser5346 16 днів тому

      @@JM_Shen sorry for the confusion about the 'origin', I shouldn't use that word. You're right, is there any book/ source that sums up all /most character with same meaning or radical? Thank you for replying

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  16 днів тому

      @@unidentifieduser5346 In Chinese dictionaries, there is a specific method for searching by radicals, where characters sharing the same radical are listed together.
      If you're looking to delve deeper into research, you can explore "Shuowen Jiezi" (an ancient dictionary). For modern options, there are many choices, but a lot of them are like instructional tools.

  • @AthanasiosJapan
    @AthanasiosJapan Місяць тому +1

    Thank you very much for this video. I would like to ask you two questions.
    1. Judging from the photograph in 10:50, when you study Classic Chinese, you study them with modern Mandarin Pronunciation. Do you also study Classical Chinese pronunciation?
    2. Do you study the Three Character Classic (三字经)? It seems that it is a very popular book for kids, I would like to learn a few things about it.

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  Місяць тому +2

      1. No, we do not, but there will be some characters that pronounce differently.
      2. I learned about the Three Character Classic at primary school but it’s more like reading material. But we put a lot effort into The Analects (论语)

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  Місяць тому +3

      The Three Character Classic is popular because it’s a “classic ”, most of the time parents will buy one for kid to memorize it (I can only memorize the first 36 characters 😂).

    • @AthanasiosJapan
      @AthanasiosJapan Місяць тому +1

      ​@@JM_Shen
      The Analects is one of the most influential Chinese book. Do Chinese students complain about having to study it?
      I am from a country that has long history (Greece) and I know many Greek students who don't want to study ancient Greek, because they think it is useless.
      Personally, I adore Classical literature, and I want to read as many ancient books as possible. Today, I bought 孙子兵法. I have read it in English, but I also want to give it a try in Chinese.

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  Місяць тому +1

      @@AthanasiosJapan haha the dislikes of ancient literature seem to be universal among students. But I think it’s mostly because of the exams and tasks we have to take, making them less fun and more stressful. Some of them are really beautiful to read.

    • @AthanasiosJapan
      @AthanasiosJapan Місяць тому

      @@JM_Shen
      Any subject that is tested and requires homework is usually hated by students. But I think that ancient languages are hated even more, because many students think that they are useless.
      I don't know about the situation in China, but in Greece many students are against learning ancient Greek, claiming that they don't need to learn it. They prefer something more useful like programming or engineering. Are there similar debates in China?

  • @ugrachandiholistic2509
    @ugrachandiholistic2509 Місяць тому +1

    No sound quality

  • @andreikoto4810
    @andreikoto4810 16 днів тому +2

    Takes 2 to 10 hours to learn all the syllabals in Korean after that you just learn words and phrases but takes 2 to 10 years to learn most of the characters (read/write) in mandarin depending on the intensity of learning. Makes you wonder why not just use pinyin with tones. Such a waste of time, you can get a full time profession in the time you learn character writing.

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  16 днів тому +1

      Your idea was actually discussed in the early 20th century, using phonetic letters instead of Chinese characters, but this idea was rejected due to factors such as cultural inheritance, etc. Although it seems simpler to switch to phonetic letters, there are too many homophones in Chinese characters. In fact, one can even write a short passage using completely homophonous words with the same tones, relying solely on the shape of the characters for comprehension. If it were phonetic letters, one would never understand the meaning.

    • @andreikoto4810
      @andreikoto4810 16 днів тому +1

      @@JM_Shen I heard this arguement before and I wonder when you hear such a passage do you understand it? Of course. Different tones and positioning in the sentence, the context, give a lot information. If you can hear it and understand it, you can perfectly use pinyin for it.

    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  16 днів тому

      @@andreikoto4810 In some situations, it's necessary to see specific Chinese characters, but it's not very common in everyday life.

    • @jessonswang725
      @jessonswang725 8 днів тому +2

      Learn how to write doesn't waste time, these characters are only five kinds of strokes, even less than the alphabet, and a character itself is a single-syllable-word, most of time is spend on articles and poetries, learning characters is just incidental.

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    @shaonpaulbd Місяць тому +1

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    • @JM_Shen
      @JM_Shen  Місяць тому +2

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      @shaonpaulbd Місяць тому

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      @JM_Shen  Місяць тому +1

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