2:13 While the Daleks are unambiguously far more evil than the Time Lords, the Time Strategist isn't wrong here -- the Time Lords did send people to wipe the Daleks out in the cradle and as a result unwittingly kickstarted the war. Even though Ollistra deflects his accusation, she doesn't bother refuting it or defending herself. The Dalek is right in this case, and they both know it. Which adds a whole new layer of complexity to the situation and yet another reason why I love Big Finish.
The Time Lords are just as cruel and ruthless as the Daleks. They just prefer to hide their true nature's behind delusions of altruism and benevolence If anything, the Time Lords are just as responsible for the creation of their greatest enemy as Davros because after Genesis of The Daleks, they realised what was out there in the universe, and it terrified them and made them stronger
@SamuelBlack84 I agree. Especially when you take into account characters like Rassilon and Omega. But the reason why I say that the Daleks are worse is because it's just _some_ Time Lords who are really that bad, while you've got other Time Lords who are good and decent people like Andred, Narvin, Romana, and the Doctor himself. By contrast, even the most rank-and-file Dalek is an evil, insane psychopath. But you're right. The Time Lords are no less dangerous than the Daleks.
I would love to see the time strategist in the old classic dalek style, but through his strategies he manipulates time and his casing updates to the new timeline with the modern dalek look
It’s a shame Jacquline Pearce passed away Ollistra was an interesting kind-of companion to the War Doctor the boss reluctant employee dynamic they had was an interesting concept that didn’t get fully fleshed out sadly it never will...
Cardinal Ollistra is played by Jackie Pearce who played the arch-villain Servalan in Blake,s Seven and Servalan is the best female arch-enemy in sci-fi ever
She also played Chessene in the Classic Doctor Who episode "The Two Doctors", which saw the 2nd and 6th Doctors in the middle of a Sontaran plot (poorly executed enough that I don't recall it, just the coronic acid melting the Sontaran commander.)
[In a Humanished Supreme Dalek voice] "NOT TRUE! YOU DO FEAR THE TIMELORD'S AND WE HUMANISED REBEL DALEKS HAVE DECIDED TO ALLY WITH HUMANITY IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEM AND ALL OTHER INNOCENT RACES FROM YOUR RUTHLESS, TYRANNICAL, DALEK EMPIRE'S WRATH! IT IS YOU...... WHO SHALL BE AFRAID AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO HAVE YOU AND YOUR EMPEROR PUT ON TRIAL FOR YOUR CRIMES AND THEN................................. EXTERMINATED!!!"
@@TheCucuyo9779 Don't forget the wise and generous Asgard from Stargate: SG-1..... Oh......................................... wait?! They're unfortunately gone extinct! Well...... at least we have the Klingons, Andorians, Tellarites, Vulcans, Romulans, Xindi, and of course.... Species 8472!
Joey MAXhead 101 subscribers Dalek Time Strategist: "I NEED NO WEAPON! LIKE YOU... I AM A STRATEGIST!" Grand Admiral Thrawn: "To defeat an enemy you must know them. Not simply their battle tactic's. But their history, philosophy...... art!"
I know I'm late, but you know what my favorite thing about Grand Admiral Thrawn is? The fact that he can make the most impossible assessment of his enemies' intentions and usually turns out to be right 100% of the time. If Thrawn were actually there alongside Ollistra and the Dalek Time Strategist, he would've correctly guessed that the Sontarans are using both the Time Strategist and Ollistra as bait for both the Time Lords and the Daleks, creating a third front in the Time War.
@@DoctorWhoKage Redeemed Villian turned anti-hero Abelt Dessler from the "Space Battleship Yamato" franchise, he would also come to the same conclusion. Dessler is the leader of the proud warrior-race of the planet Gamilas. I assume you've heard of him? Dessler is my Number 1# favorite villain (Former Villain) from the "Space Battleship Yamato" anime.
@@jamieolberding7731I've never heard of him. But Space Battleship Yamato kinda interests me. Especially since most aliens in anime are just monsters.
@@DoctorWhoKage Not every alien species in anime are complete monsters as there have been a few friendly alien races on several occasions, depending on the series. In "Space Battleship Yamato" for primary example, there's the Iscandarians, most notably Queen Starsha, who played a major role in helping humanity save Earth from radiation contamination. Even Humanity's former enemies the Gamilons, most notably Dessler as I stated before, he has helped saved Humanity on many occasions in order to atone for his past mistakes, which have made him a better man over time. In the 2009 anime film "Space Battleship Yamato: Resurrection" there also the Amare people led by Queen Iraya and the Ethos people led by the honorable Admiral Gouri, who also fought alongside Humanity against the tyrannical SUS Empire.
only think that bothers me is how the sontarans beat daleks here a little too easily, i hate to play favourites you'd think daleks would have more in the way of defence
Am I the only one worried that an high ranking dalek was captured by an lesser alian warrior race, I know sontaraians are skilled in war, but the dalek strategiest would been difficult, this lead to two scenarios, 1. The dalek are weakened during capture, or 2. This is part of an larger plan
2:13 While the Daleks are unambiguously far more evil than the Time Lords, the Time Strategist isn't wrong here -- the Time Lords did send people to wipe the Daleks out in the cradle and as a result unwittingly kickstarted the war. Even though Ollistra deflects his accusation, she doesn't bother refuting it or defending herself. The Dalek is right in this case, and they both know it. Which adds a whole new layer of complexity to the situation and yet another reason why I love Big Finish.
It's weird but it's true.
"Oh that was all in the past."
Woman you tried to stop them from existing, they are gonna take that personally.
The Time Lords are just as cruel and ruthless as the Daleks. They just prefer to hide their true nature's behind delusions of altruism and benevolence
If anything, the Time Lords are just as responsible for the creation of their greatest enemy as Davros because after Genesis of The Daleks, they realised what was out there in the universe, and it terrified them and made them stronger
@SamuelBlack84 I agree. Especially when you take into account characters like Rassilon and Omega. But the reason why I say that the Daleks are worse is because it's just _some_ Time Lords who are really that bad, while you've got other Time Lords who are good and decent people like Andred, Narvin, Romana, and the Doctor himself. By contrast, even the most rank-and-file Dalek is an evil, insane psychopath. But you're right. The Time Lords are no less dangerous than the Daleks.
The Genesis of The Daleks, the first shot of The Last Great Time War
The Dalek Time Strategist’s voice, design and character is just so fantastic and impactful, we need this Dalek on the screens
He is such a badass, I’m trying to figure out how to recreate his voice on Adobe Audition
@@joeyjojojuniorshabadoo6990 Not to mention he needs to be made into a toy action figure.
I like how he sounds almost human when talking normally and then goes full Dalek when he enters a tirade.
I would love to see the time strategist in the old classic dalek style, but through his strategies he manipulates time and his casing updates to the new timeline with the modern dalek look
I was today years old when I realized the Time Controller and Time Strategist were two different Daleks
The Controller is pretty much the Stragist's father.
@@robotx9285 and what about the Dalek Time Engineer?
The Time controller NEEDS to make an appearance some time.
0:30
_“How did you capture it?”_
_“With guile”_
*A THING of guile?*
It’s a shame Jacquline Pearce passed away Ollistra was an interesting kind-of companion to the War Doctor the boss reluctant employee dynamic they had was an interesting concept that didn’t get fully fleshed out sadly it never will...
The awkwardness before their conversation 👍
Cardinal Ollistra is played by Jackie Pearce who played the arch-villain Servalan in Blake,s Seven and Servalan is the best female arch-enemy in sci-fi ever
She also played Chessene in the Classic Doctor Who episode "The Two Doctors", which saw the 2nd and 6th Doctors in the middle of a Sontaran plot (poorly executed enough that I don't recall it, just the coronic acid melting the Sontaran commander.)
Hmm - the dalek was being very reasonable -- no immediate extermination threat -- it was positively a fluffy bunny.
We fear no one.
[In a Humanished Supreme Dalek voice] "NOT TRUE! YOU DO FEAR THE TIMELORD'S AND WE HUMANISED REBEL DALEKS HAVE DECIDED TO ALLY WITH HUMANITY IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEM AND ALL OTHER INNOCENT RACES FROM YOUR RUTHLESS, TYRANNICAL, DALEK EMPIRE'S WRATH! IT IS YOU...... WHO SHALL BE AFRAID AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO HAVE YOU AND YOUR EMPEROR PUT ON TRIAL FOR YOUR CRIMES AND THEN................................. EXTERMINATED!!!"
@@jamieolberding7731 the Human systems proudly stand beside our allies, the humanised rebel Daleks! 🙌
@@TheCucuyo9779 Don't forget the wise and generous Asgard from Stargate: SG-1..... Oh......................................... wait?! They're unfortunately gone extinct! Well...... at least we have the Klingons, Andorians, Tellarites, Vulcans, Romulans, Xindi, and of course.... Species 8472!
To say that a Dalek is powerless without his neutron ray is pretty naive their ultimate weapon is their minds
Joey MAXhead
101 subscribers Dalek Time Strategist: "I NEED NO WEAPON! LIKE YOU... I AM A STRATEGIST!"
Grand Admiral Thrawn: "To defeat an enemy you must know them. Not simply their battle tactic's. But their history, philosophy...... art!"
I know I'm late, but you know what my favorite thing about Grand Admiral Thrawn is? The fact that he can make the most impossible assessment of his enemies' intentions and usually turns out to be right 100% of the time. If Thrawn were actually there alongside Ollistra and the Dalek Time Strategist, he would've correctly guessed that the Sontarans are using both the Time Strategist and Ollistra as bait for both the Time Lords and the Daleks, creating a third front in the Time War.
@@DoctorWhoKage Redeemed Villian turned anti-hero Abelt Dessler from the "Space Battleship Yamato" franchise, he would also come to the same conclusion. Dessler is the leader of the proud warrior-race of the planet Gamilas. I assume you've heard of him? Dessler is my Number 1# favorite villain (Former Villain) from the "Space Battleship Yamato" anime.
@@jamieolberding7731I've never heard of him. But Space Battleship Yamato kinda interests me. Especially since most aliens in anime are just monsters.
@@DoctorWhoKage Not every alien species in anime are complete monsters as there have been a few friendly alien races on several occasions, depending on the series. In "Space Battleship Yamato" for primary example, there's the Iscandarians, most notably Queen Starsha, who played a major role in helping humanity save Earth from radiation contamination. Even Humanity's former enemies the Gamilons, most notably Dessler as I stated before, he has helped saved Humanity on many occasions in order to atone for his past mistakes, which have made him a better man over time. In the 2009 anime film "Space Battleship Yamato: Resurrection" there also the Amare people led by Queen Iraya and the Ethos people led by the honorable Admiral Gouri, who also fought alongside Humanity against the tyrannical SUS Empire.
I assumed it was the Timelords sending the Doctor to spiridon to sabotage the army
That was The 4th Doctor in The Genesis of The Daleks
I hope someone animates this
GunMaster X11
3 weeks ago (edited) Same here too.I think UA-camrs Lee Adams or Dalek Seth should have a go at animating this.
@@sebastianimation6100 Ollistra could be portrayed as a silhouette, maybe with her eyes visible in some close-up shots.
@@jamieolberding7731I dislike Seth.
@@minicle426 (Me speaking in a Dalek Scientist voice): "AND WHY IS THAT MIGHT I ASK?"
How come he never made it on screen?
only think that bothers me is how the sontarans beat daleks here a little too easily, i hate to play favourites you'd think daleks would have more in the way of defence
Especially given the Time Stragist is basically apart of the Dalek High Command.
it is a new weapon that the daleks would have no idea the sontarans had though. The little tin pots seem remarkably beatable most of the time.
Thay are tring to join the time war thay broght the a game
@@tonyug113same with the guys with the rediculus collers
Ego can blind one from falt
It’s so weird hearing a non Hurt War Doctor
Was this audio made post 2017 then??
It is John Hurt. This was before his death :)
@@joeyjojojuniorshabadoo6990 Well I feel dumb
My bad
Easy mistake, my dude!
@@ItsButterBean1020 TBF, his impersonator in the War Doctor Begins audios is really convincing.
Am I the only one worried that an high ranking dalek was captured by an lesser alian warrior race, I know sontaraians are skilled in war, but the dalek strategiest would been difficult, this lead to two scenarios, 1. The dalek are weakened during capture, or 2. This is part of an larger plan
It's a little impressive, but I don't remember a single second from any of these 4 boxsets
Same! I'm not sure why I don't?