Silent Magician & Swordsman - Failed Cards, Archetypes, and Sometimes Mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2023
  • A few things are guaranteed in life: Death, taxes, and Konami’s obsession with making nostalgic support for all of Yugi’s monsters, good or bad. You have your good ones for cards like Dark Magician and Buster Blader. Then you have puzzling support that fell flat on its face, like Jack’s Knight, Black Luster Soldier, and Gaia. The most unexpected had to be ones for the Silent Magician and Silent Swordsman that came out in 2016, as these cards haven’t had any support for them in over 11 years until Duelist Pack- Rivals of the Pharaoh. Did the support help? Of course not! You wouldn’t be able to have this video to watch at 3 a.m. if they’d turn out fantastic. There were still too many holes and weaknesses for this archetype to be good, and we got all the details on why the Silent duo stayed silent in the Yu-Gi-Oh TCG.
    Script by V.Guildford
    Edited by S
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  • @Edward-qs8hj
    @Edward-qs8hj 7 місяців тому +38

    11:59 "The upside of potentially getting a walking, talking Imperial Order..."
    He doesn't talk, he's silent 😶

  • @joshfarmer8408
    @joshfarmer8408 7 місяців тому +237

    I don't care how bad these cards are, i will always love these guys from how they worked in the anime

    • @TheSouthparkchecker
      @TheSouthparkchecker 7 місяців тому +2

      Boy do I have good news for you.

    • @snowman_oven
      @snowman_oven 4 місяці тому

      having your master being the best cheater in the anime does help XD

    • @elchuloputas95
      @elchuloputas95 4 місяці тому

      ​@@snowman_ovenAtem is the cheater not yugi

  • @Watercrown86
    @Watercrown86 7 місяців тому +306

    Most of these "failed" mechanics are a lot more interesting to me than stuff that became meta.

    • @thorscape3879
      @thorscape3879 7 місяців тому +17

      Filling one's graveyard with exactly 5 dark monsters is a far more engaging mechanic than the Lv mechanic.

    • @burnum
      @burnum 7 місяців тому +12

      It's funnier cause some of them get new support. Like Flip monsters, who just got a new one coming with Master of Ham.

    • @zacharydobbins6267
      @zacharydobbins6267 7 місяців тому +33

      Agreed. Maybe these ‘failed’ things are just more FUN than function

    • @RazielTheUnborn
      @RazielTheUnborn 7 місяців тому +5

      I never found the Lv mechanic back in the day "fun". Unless you brought out their starter level on your opponents end phase it was a pain to bring them out with how crap their body was.

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 7 місяців тому +6

      Sadly, that's why they failed to the mundane and practical.

  • @DigiTism
    @DigiTism 7 місяців тому +33

    Konami definitely watches these videos to fall asleep at 3am. Every time you talk shit about cards being bad, Konami says, “Bet….” and releases support for them. First it was Genex and now it’s the Silent cards. 😂

  • @samu0l095
    @samu0l095 7 місяців тому +696

    I don't think insulting other people waifus is a good idea duel logs.

    • @thatman666
      @thatman666 7 місяців тому +56

      Yes, start the flame war. Spread the clout. 😈

    • @MSSenpai03
      @MSSenpai03 7 місяців тому +32

      ^ i'm behind this

    • @kookou13
      @kookou13 7 місяців тому

      Weebs are gross

    • @popstarchamp
      @popstarchamp 7 місяців тому +26

      @@thatman666"Flameswordsman War"😏

    • @LoadPast
      @LoadPast 7 місяців тому +27

      The waifu warriors are sharpening their pitchforks

  • @theking8347
    @theking8347 7 місяців тому +19

    These were supposed to be Yugi's ace monsters, representing him coming into his own and surpassing Atem.
    DSoD walked that back though and him use Magician Girls and Dark Magician again.

  • @jugemujugemu4690
    @jugemujugemu4690 7 місяців тому +14

    ya bruh thanks for the Silent support this was a good teaser keep it up

  • @buchiklop110
    @buchiklop110 7 місяців тому +51

    The funny thing about Duel Logs snarking about Black Luster Soldier getting support is that it is now one of the strongest archtypes in Duel Links since the Yugis can summon multiple versions of all the BLS monsters on Turn 1.

    • @Did_No_Wrong
      @Did_No_Wrong 7 місяців тому +9

      To be fair Duel links has a very bizarre meta because of the skill system, reduced monster and spell zones, 4000 LP instead of the 8000, and decks having almost half as less cards in the deck as traditional Yugioh meaning you'll have less bricks. Duel links design helps more struggling decks become actually viable like Magical Muskets and Magikey which are 2 notoriously bad decks in regular Yugioh from the amount of bricking they give you.

    • @dearickangelonej.legaspi6686
      @dearickangelonej.legaspi6686 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Did_No_Wrongtrue, Magikeys and muskets are good decks that just do not play well with the amount of resources that regular yugioh allows but in a limited format where their consistency is key and skills can allow them to play against other decks.
      Really if DL isn't as scummy with its cards I would ahve been playing it alot more than MD

  • @jugemujugemu4690
    @jugemujugemu4690 7 місяців тому +35

    Ill just say Silents were yugis coolest monsters and i still hold out hope they get some more support, either retrains, boss monsters backrow stuff whatever because them being Yugi's own Black Magician and Gaia were so amazingly cool and to them just getting left even in like DSOD was heartbreaking

  • @cybersavertutorials5536
    @cybersavertutorials5536 7 місяців тому +19

    Legacy of Destruction leaks just came out and we got a bunch of Small Yugi supports including for Silent Swordsman and Magician 😂

  • @christopherbrown6322
    @christopherbrown6322 7 місяців тому +26

    I remember using the Silent duo in one of the GBA games. Ironically I always found Silent Magician to be far more effective in a spell counter deck than it was in a Lvl up deck, because the attack growth can be accelerated using spell counter support like Alchemist of Black Spells.
    It was basically a discount Magical Marionette

    • @jacthing1
      @jacthing1 7 місяців тому +3

      Exactly what I was thinking, plus with stuff like certain Endymion cards you can put a bunch of spell counters on it more easily

  • @ASoulphoenix
    @ASoulphoenix 7 місяців тому +71

    The worst thing the silent waifu "support" has it's the fact it doesn't even work as intended. SM Lv4 checks every draw your opponent makes, not every card drawn, meaning Silent burning only gives one counter towards its level up instead of the five you'd get as seeing in the anime

    • @jjhl
      @jjhl 7 місяців тому +18

      Silent burning was never intended to be used with Lv4.
      It was suppose to give Silent Magician 4000Atk by setting your hand size to 6

    • @_the_Omega
      @_the_Omega 7 місяців тому +1

      Ar we now really comparing anime wiht real world?

    • @ASoulphoenix
      @ASoulphoenix 7 місяців тому +7

      @@_the_Omega i don't really like to compare, but i feel it's necessary in this case. It depicts SM using its attack and its effect mimics the one used by Yugi in the ceremonial duel but fails to live up to its counterpart, sorry

    • @ascriptmaster
      @ascriptmaster 7 місяців тому +4

      Thankfully Silent Magician Zero rectifies this mistake by explicitly boosting herself based on the number of cards drawn. LV4 is still crying in a corner though

  • @Netherwolf6100
    @Netherwolf6100 7 місяців тому +104

    I think the retrains were going in the right direction, but then totally veered off a cliff.
    1: You should have been able to Normal Summon them. Not sure why that restriction was put in place when the game feeds off of Special Summoning.
    2: With the passing of time or actions, their levels, stats and abilities should increase naturally as long as they're on the field
    3: If they're destroyed, they should be able to summon any Lv counterpart from Deck, Hand or even the GY Ignoring Summoning Conditions.
    This would have made them at least a little playable. Now? Even if you were to do a themed duel, their playstyle and support are extremely lack luster at best.

    • @aubreyhuff46
      @aubreyhuff46 7 місяців тому +5

      Back in the day, the game wasn't so special summon based. It was based around normal summons with a handful of special summonable monsters

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 7 місяців тому +7

      Konami has a weird idea of balancing and not replacing with retrains, so no on the "You should have been able to Normal Summon them."

    • @archwing3441
      @archwing3441 7 місяців тому +9

      @@Bezaliel13 I actually do agree with the not replacing with retrains. The point of a lot of legacy support is to give new support to old cards, literally nostalgia baiting. If you just replace it with retrains, you might as well just make a new archetype since none of the old cards will be played.

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 7 місяців тому +3

      @@archwing3441
      RIGHT?
      It is so annoying how people tend to just want retrains to replace old cards, even when something that DIRECTLY supports an old card.

    • @logicaltips4107
      @logicaltips4107 7 місяців тому +3

      Genuine question. How would you write out those specific erratas, specifically the "longer on field = stronger" effect? I'm writing a story with the Silents and I would love to include that idea for the retrains.
      Silent swordsman already has an effect like that, but idk how to make it stronger or incorporate it into Silent Magician.

  • @hgsqu33zy
    @hgsqu33zy 7 місяців тому +42

    I love the silent swordsman cards. I got Diamond in master duel with them . Silent sword slash is overpowered and I love it.

    • @david21216
      @david21216 7 місяців тому +1

      Duel links reference 👀

    • @bigdaddyjh2002
      @bigdaddyjh2002 7 місяців тому +8

      Oh! Wow! Do you have a deck list? I tried but only got to Platinum 4 before going back down to 5.

    • @XxjeffersonDkidxX
      @XxjeffersonDkidxX 7 місяців тому

      @hgsqu33zy post the deck list my dude.
      my deck could only go to platinum.

    • @ooperblownup
      @ooperblownup 5 місяців тому

      @@bigdaddyjh2002 if he really made it to diamond with those cards he probably just splashed whatever meta cards in the deck that were not from the archetype like Kashtira Fenrir and hand traps

    • @bigdaddyjh2002
      @bigdaddyjh2002 5 місяців тому

      @@ooperblownup Not like it really matters.

  • @someguywithabirdface2583
    @someguywithabirdface2583 7 місяців тому +18

    Konami really have beef with this dude.

  • @MikeDaaBeast
    @MikeDaaBeast 7 місяців тому +4

    Normal Witch of the Black Forest, Link into Artemis, search Silent Magician, TS silent magician. Was doing this combo in decks that dont need a normal summon.

  • @PSISilent
    @PSISilent 7 місяців тому +41

    As someone whose username is based on the “Silent” archetype. I was kinda sad they don’t play that much ( unless it’s duel links)

  • @bassgx1459
    @bassgx1459 7 місяців тому +7

    And now new Silent support just came out.
    Please please do a BLS failed video next, he too needs new support already. 😂

  • @glumac994
    @glumac994 7 місяців тому +8

    Well. New support for Silent magician as a new Sarcophagus yugi Moto archetype announced. Definitely want to hear you talk about it

  • @facundopagella6992
    @facundopagella6992 7 місяців тому +13

    10 days later: "Silent Support". Why is Konami so good at ruining Archetype videos?

  • @mariana_1913
    @mariana_1913 7 місяців тому +12

    I really love the Silent cards and i think they should be Yugi's Ace Monsters, not Yami Yugi's Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl. Just makes sense to me to him have Silent Magician and Silent Swordsman

  • @Ryomahino135
    @Ryomahino135 7 місяців тому +8

    Silent Swordsman design is so cool! I like how LV3 resembles Yugi a lot.

  • @Zetact_
    @Zetact_ 7 місяців тому +16

    Konami has tried multiple times to reference anime Card of Sanctity on Yugi support but has never considered that "At the start of your Main Phase 1" might actually be enough.

  • @GLIEPNIR
    @GLIEPNIR 7 місяців тому +9

    The only positive thing I can say about these "Silent" monsters... Is that their art was amazing. So amazing that it's almost a tragedy to see them die out like that xD

  • @thaisonwibu6737
    @thaisonwibu6737 7 місяців тому +14

    in the Silent magician part, you accidentally said "silent swordsman lv4 and silent magician lv8"
    just a reminder, still a great video

  • @wenja
    @wenja 7 місяців тому +2

    Hey, I'm a fan of the channel and I just wanted to thank you for the content you put out. Your videos are so high quality and helpful and concise. I just got back into Yu-Gi-Oh! after a few years and your videos are so fun to watch. Keep up the good work. Thanks

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 7 місяців тому +4

    Here’s my idea for a LV 12 version of Swordsman and Magician each:
    _Silent Swordsman LV 12_ (LIGHT)
    Level 12
    Warrior/Effect
    _Can only be Normal Summoned/Set by using 5 face-up Spells you control as Tributes. (Quick Effect) Can only be special summoned (From your hand, deck or GY) If your opponent activates 5 or more Spell Cards or Effects during their turn. Unaffected by Spell cards or effects, and also, all Spell Cards and effects on the field are negated while this card is face-up on the field. If this card would be destroyed, banished, or negated by an opponent’s card or effect: You can tribute 1 Spell card from your hand or field instead. You can apply each of the following effects of “Silent Swordsman LV 12” once per turn:_
    ⚪️(Quick Effect) You can tribute any number of spell cards from your hand or field: During your next turn, this card can attack extra times in a row equal to the number of tributes.
    ⚪️If this card would leave the field by an opponent’s card or effect: Special Summon 1 “Silent” or “LV” monster from your hand, deck or GY, except “Silent Swordsman LV 12”, ignoring it’s summoning conditions.
    ATK/3500 DEF/1000
    _Silent Magician LV 12_ (LIGHT)
    Level 12
    Spellcaster/Effect
    _Can only be Normal Summoned/Set by using 5 face-up Spells you control as Tributes. (Quick Effect) Can only be special summoned (From your hand, deck or GY) If your opponent activates 5 or more Spell Cards or Effects during their turn. Monsters you control are Unaffected by your opponent’s Spell Cards and effects, and also, unaffected by opponent’s card effects during any turn where they activate a spell card or effect. Monsters you control Gain 500 ATK/DEF for every Spell card or effect that’s activated or applied, and also for each card that is added to or removed from either players hands by card effects. You can apply each of the following effects of “Silent Magician LV 12” once per turn:_
    ⚪️(Quick Effect) You can tribute any number of spell cards from your hand or field: During next Draw Phase, Excavate an equal number of cards; add all excavated spells to you hand, then shuffle the rest back into your deck.
    ⚪️If this card would leave the field by an opponent’s card or effect: Special Summon 1 “Silent” or “LV” monster from your hand, deck or GY, except “Silent Magician LV 12”, ignoring it’s summoning conditions.
    ATK/5000 DEF/1000

    • @steelshoelace1970
      @steelshoelace1970 7 місяців тому +1

      sky striker is gonna have a field day with this

    • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
      @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 7 місяців тому +1

      @@steelshoelace1970 why sky Stryker in particular?

    • @anarchistauthor5475
      @anarchistauthor5475 7 місяців тому

      I think it's because they use a lot of spell cards and can loop them from the GY back to the hand and keep reactivating them multiple times in a turn.@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire

  • @andrewchristy530
    @andrewchristy530 7 місяців тому +4

    I'd argue Silent Swordsman LV5 was.....okay back in the day. it didn't NEED to be special summoned which helped a lot.

  • @quaidmoore7997
    @quaidmoore7997 6 місяців тому +1

    Silent Swordsman is a massive threat in my Kings Court Deck. It fits in perfectly and works with some nasty floodgates being the same type and attribute

  • @Elfking94
    @Elfking94 7 місяців тому +22

    There is ONE strategy involving level down; and that is using it like defusion in the battle phase to go for game after your LV monster has already attacked.
    It's not much but it's A use that has won me the game when I was messing with it

    • @roncerjani9063
      @roncerjani9063 7 місяців тому +2

      You messed with it? Nobody on earth messes with LV monsters in the first place, and you messed with their shittiest card?

    • @MajinObama
      @MajinObama 7 місяців тому +1

      @roncerjani9063
      The party pooper in person! Ready to piss in everyone’s cup. How unfortunate to meet you…

    • @Elfking94
      @Elfking94 7 місяців тому +5

      @@roncerjani9063 🤣 listen man, they remade my Armed Dragons, I had to try everything, Lol. And Thats a simple strategy. The real trick is trying to turbo out Armed Dragon catapult cannon without using Ojama blue crash

    • @Elfking94
      @Elfking94 7 місяців тому +1

      @@roncerjani9063 we are a small but strong following

    • @Elfking94
      @Elfking94 6 місяців тому +1

      There is another use I found but I don't see it happening often either, but basically LV down counts as a special summoned armed dragon LV 7 for armed dragon Catapult Cannon. Ojamatch does not.

  • @absoul112
    @absoul112 7 місяців тому +11

    While they aren't good, you can run them in different decks to take advantage for them. Phantom knights for swordsman and magician can work with invoked (or possibly shaddolls).

  • @EmrysMerlin8807
    @EmrysMerlin8807 7 місяців тому +6

    I actually teched Silent Swordsman into my Noble Knight deck during the height of the Sky Striker days. Having a near free spell negate that I could just splash onto my end board (going first) or early into my combos (going second) was solid.

  • @muhammadaffry2123
    @muhammadaffry2123 7 місяців тому +2

    New Silent Swordman and Magician support just drop

  • @Reflecter16
    @Reflecter16 7 місяців тому +14

    I tried running this archetype here and there but it just needs a little more, oomph. Not omni negates or anything, just more to help LV and their respective sub archetype.
    I do still love Silent Swordsman as a whole though.

  • @Gebirges
    @Gebirges 7 місяців тому +3

    Mr. DuelLogs did it again ... HOW DO YOU DO IT?!
    And can you please give my favorites Nephthys some new support? :')

  • @kennydarmawan13
    @kennydarmawan13 7 місяців тому +58

    Again, the LV Monsters were done right with the Level Up mechanic in Magic: the Gathering. A simple cost, a very rewarding payoff (depending on the card).
    And man, Duel Links is just a format where some bad cards see play.

    • @ich3730
      @ich3730 7 місяців тому +11

      level up creatures were garbage tho. Paying so much mana just for your opponent to remove the thing on the last activation.

    • @kennydarmawan13
      @kennydarmawan13 7 місяців тому +8

      ​@@ich3730true. But even then, they're much easier to use and don't require any obtuse requirements.
      They can at least serve as janky, funny boss monsters, especially Lighthouse Chronologist.

    • @TheGreatSalsaMan
      @TheGreatSalsaMan 7 місяців тому +9

      If LV mechanics had been around in the very beginning with weird mechanics like Great Moth it might’ve had a chance to grow into something. Can’t make them too good otherwise they get abused. Horus LV8 couldve broke the game if you didn’t have to jump through so many hoops just to get him out and it’s not super easy to cheat out in the first place.

    • @roncerjani9063
      @roncerjani9063 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TheGreatSalsaManIt's more of a case that the final monster was made laughably OP to compensate for the LV mechanic being utter trash, but the opposite.

    • @archwing3441
      @archwing3441 7 місяців тому +1

      Duel Links be wild. It's a format where near full powered black wings and salamangreats aren't tiered but Ursatic is. And the deck to beat is black luster and potentially blue-eyes and Yubel.

  • @Sleepy0173
    @Sleepy0173 7 місяців тому +8

    A couple corrections:
    -Silent Swordsman LV3 came out in Rise of Destiny, then LV5 in Flaming Eternity (so it is worse than you thought xD )
    -Silent Magician (the retrain) also negates a Spell once per turn like Silent Swordsman does. She's not just "unaffected".

    • @Tsugame
      @Tsugame 7 місяців тому +1

      + silent magician doesnt get stronger every standby phase like silent swordsman but increases its atk according to your cards in hand like slifer

    • @TheDuelLogs
      @TheDuelLogs  7 місяців тому +2

      The way it was worded in the script was a bit weird, but we do say that both magician and swordsman have the spell negate. I remember double checking that

    • @Sleepy0173
      @Sleepy0173 7 місяців тому

      @@TheDuelLogs At around 12:05 ish is where I think the confussion stemmed from. I think you are referring to the highest LV forms of them, but the image on screen is that of the non-LV versions, so I suppose it was a talk about the archetypes overall.

    • @ConspoAlt
      @ConspoAlt 7 місяців тому

      ​​​@@TheDuelLogsanother mistake that i havent seen mentioned: its never said that silent magician gains 500 for each card in your hand, its different from swordsman which gains 500 in each standby. in fact you even say she gets stronger every standby at 14:15 when thats not true. its also why the spell draws you cards

    • @TheDuelLogs
      @TheDuelLogs  7 місяців тому +2

      ohhh, yeah my editor used the wrong cards there lol@@Sleepy0173

  • @ladariusholmes1215
    @ladariusholmes1215 7 місяців тому +1

    I haven't played the game in over 15 years. The game has evolved way too much for me to keep up. But...I watch these videos to help these videos to help me sleep and calm now my anxiety. So I appreciate that wholeheartedly.

  • @oliverphilipp7292
    @oliverphilipp7292 7 місяців тому +1

    big props for going the entire 15 minutes without stooping low enough to mention the elephant in the room why magician would ever be played even once (huehuehue)....

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 7 місяців тому +3

    I came up with a dual retrain for silent swordsman and swords of revealing light a while ago… now would be as good a time as my to get feedback on that: 0:40
    _Silent Swordsman of Revealing Light_ (LIGHT)
    Level 7
    Warrior/Effect
    _(Quick Effect) You can special summon this card by tributing 1 “Swords of Revealing Light” or “LV” card from your hand or field. Unaffected by Spell cards or effects, and cannot be destroyed by battle. Once while this card is on the field (Quick effect), you can activate the following effect, but if you do, this card leaves the field during the end phase of your opponent’s 3rd turn:_
    ⚪️ If your opponent controls a face-down monster, flip all monsters they control face-up. While this card is face-up on the field, Neither Player can declare attacks or activate spell cards or effects.
    _If this card leaves the field after it activates it’s effect(s), unless by it’s own effect(s): Special summon 1 “Silent” Monster from your hand or GY, Ignoring it’s summoning conditions._
    ATK/2800 DEF/1000

  • @peter-rg9jf
    @peter-rg9jf 7 місяців тому +2

    Errata modulation to say: treat it as if it was special summoned properly first then special summon it....

  • @daigustoemeral3710
    @daigustoemeral3710 7 місяців тому +1

    Lvl up mechanic needs a field spell that
    1. Searches/adds back from the gy level up
    2. Gives protection on summon (mound of the bound)
    3. If the card is sent from the field to the gy add any level up or card that mentions it.

  • @JeebleyJim
    @JeebleyJim 7 місяців тому +4

    They're probably just going to be retrained into new gandora support at this point so actual yugi can have an archetype and we can leave dm behind forever

    • @JeebleyJim
      @JeebleyJim 7 місяців тому +1

      Fuck I should have bought lottery tickets

  • @SuperKichigo
    @SuperKichigo 7 місяців тому +6

    I still did like how easily splashable High ATK monster is Silent Magician for a lvl 4 special summon.
    1000 + 500/each card in your hand. :-)

  • @FrnzFrdnnd
    @FrnzFrdnnd 7 місяців тому +2

    Let's go! We getting new Silent Magician support with this one.

  • @mintleaf5956
    @mintleaf5956 2 місяці тому +1

    Silent Sword Slash now has a new super bulky target in Silent Swordsman Zero
    that'll be really fun

  • @TheGlendriv
    @TheGlendriv 7 місяців тому +3

    NEX: Silent Magician & Swordsman Thunder lv

  • @scoutlord98phantomking
    @scoutlord98phantomking 2 місяці тому

    Great video duel logs . My fav normal monster is dark blade

  • @alialluaibi3008
    @alialluaibi3008 7 місяців тому +5

    This one did not age well as well !

  • @lunarshadow5584
    @lunarshadow5584 7 місяців тому +1

    The idea of LVing up a monster is interesting to me as someone who grew up in the era of JRPGs such as Final Fantasy. That your monster can become stronger the longer its alive on the field when Yugioh did used to be a game of mostly normal summons with the occasional special summon would've made the original silent series' powerful so long as something like blue eyes didn't show up.
    I've also recently seen a great use for the card considered to be less useful, silent magician in a 43 card dogmatika/magician deck. The video was made by Crowley12 if you want to take a look

  • @satellarknightaltair4o90
    @satellarknightaltair4o90 7 місяців тому

    Hell I love this deck! I hope now that you’ve made this video Konami should print new support

  • @xevadia7963
    @xevadia7963 7 місяців тому +4

    Huh this aged well
    Lol I think Konami heard you or something

  • @MaketsufumaGaming
    @MaketsufumaGaming 7 місяців тому +7

    How come Everytime you bring up certain cards those cards end up getting retrains or something a week or so later?

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 15 днів тому

      Its a known phenomenon with Yugitubers. Rata makes the same thing happen

  • @TheLegacyDan
    @TheLegacyDan 7 місяців тому +2

    Used to beat so much face with Silent Waifu in highschool. She was such a fun card.

  • @carolynbossom2297
    @carolynbossom2297 7 місяців тому +4

    I have a feeling that silent burning is more or less supposed to help the silent magician retrain. If i remember correctly, that monster gains 500 ATK for each card in your hand. That being said, having your opponent draw multiple cards is uh...ehh....

  • @siftheadsdude
    @siftheadsdude 7 місяців тому +2

    Please do a video on the seal of orichalcos/the arichalcos anime arc cards!

  • @fenrisnox5766
    @fenrisnox5766 7 місяців тому +1

    I find it a neat attention to detail that Silent Magician LV8 has the same attack as LV4 with 5 counters on it (1000 ATK baseline with an additional 2500 ATK from the 5 counters which increase ATK by 500 per counter)

  • @brunosanto3488
    @brunosanto3488 7 місяців тому +1

    If "Silent Magician & Swordsman" (and family) ever make it to Rush Duels, I'm sure the Level Up mechanic will be removed since:
    1) It is an obsolete mechanic. Additionally, Rush Duels already removed many classic Mechanics like Chains or Continuous Spell/Trap Card from the game.
    2) It is very slow. In Rush Duels, what you want is to be as fast as possible and kill your Opponent with your Boss Monsters. There is no time to repair your next turn to have your Level Up Monster.
    In any case:
    - Low Level Monsters would serve as a bridge to reach high Level Monsters: example, this Monster can be used as two Tributes to bring in this specific Monster.
    - There would be many Retrains. Possibly even more playable or more versatile than the OG Monsters. This is because many Monsters do not meet the Rush Duels's stat standards.

  • @waifusmith4043
    @waifusmith4043 7 місяців тому +1

    Bold video for someone in mind crushing distance

  • @youarelookingatmynam
    @youarelookingatmynam 7 місяців тому +6

    Silent burning is used to boost silent magician to 4000 ATK (it gains 500 atk per card in your hand, you didnt mention that for some reason). It’s still useless in most situation, but your example of leveling up lvl4 to 8 instantly is way off, as they may not draw enough.

    • @archwing3441
      @archwing3441 7 місяців тому +1

      Using it to lvl4 to 8 was way off because it counts the amount of times they draw, not the amount of cards. So you'll still only get 1 spell counter regardless of how many they drew.

  • @vireoboss8290
    @vireoboss8290 7 місяців тому +5

    To be fair Knight engine was played in Exostister and did top some regionals so its not "Failed"

    • @aceclover758
      @aceclover758 7 місяців тому +1

      Failed means on their own
      Doesn’t count if you combine them with another superior archtype

    • @vireoboss8290
      @vireoboss8290 7 місяців тому

      @aceclover758 if you go by this, then ishizu, dragonlink, and bystial have failed too, lmao clown take

  • @SPGBlackstar
    @SPGBlackstar 7 місяців тому +2

    to watch at 3 AM hit me so fucking hard LOL

  • @King-ep2zb
    @King-ep2zb 7 місяців тому +5

    I really loved the level up cards as a concept, and i would really loved to have seen them actually see competitive success, but it really sucks that they didnt get off the ground 😔😔

    • @user-kx1mb9qq4z
      @user-kx1mb9qq4z 7 місяців тому +1

      Early YGO was just too conservative with monsters (though not spells considering their spells from the first few sets were some of their most problematic lol) most of the time. So often they'd give summoning conditions that werent even remotely worth the pay off. Obviously the poster children for this were early fusion and ritual monsters.
      Like look at the best level up line with Horus. His base form needs to destroy something by battle back in the day when 1900 vanilla beatsticks or bigger beatsticks with detrimental effects (goblin attack force, zombyra, etc) were considered hot commodities and totally legit for deck building and if you didn''t have a baller stat line, your effect needed to be amazing...and he has to level up by winning a battle with only 1600 attack. Ridiculous. And he wasn't even remotely the hardest effect to pull off. Even Horus wouldn't have seen play if level up didn't exist. Though his level 6 was normal summonable iirc and had the satts to win a fight and level up on his own, so there's that.

  • @anthonylucas2622
    @anthonylucas2622 7 місяців тому

    I don't even play Yu-Gi-Oh anymore but I love watching your videos

  • @Zephyrt3mp3st
    @Zephyrt3mp3st 7 місяців тому +2

    I feel like you were overly harsh on the LV monsters in general. Level down has applications like dodging effects and recycling.
    They even had a time in the spotlight where they were a viable rogue strategy in Duel Links.
    Wonder balloon + LV Insects was annoying AF over there, and Horus has been strong against A LOT of events especially when problematic spells we don't have access to are at play.

  • @Grenn102
    @Grenn102 7 місяців тому

    I remember running Silent Magician in my Fortune Lady deck in Duel Links to pop my own synchro turn 1 so I could have spell negation, a possible 3500 if they got through it, and my synchro back next turn to do whatever I needed.

  • @antoniojrdistefano8537
    @antoniojrdistefano8537 7 місяців тому +3

    All I'll say is that I made a lot of money selling my Silent Magician. Thanks waifu tax!

  • @Weareonenation303
    @Weareonenation303 7 місяців тому +1

    Silent Magician's design baffles me, it's like a tribute to Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth.

  • @ggrarl
    @ggrarl 7 місяців тому +1

    There are three Skills in Duel Links that support the Silent cards: Determination to Fight, Silent Duelist, and Level Change!

  • @setokaiba9250
    @setokaiba9250 7 місяців тому +1

    I made a successful silent magician + lightsworn deck that I made it to legend 2 with maybe 3 years ago. Silent magician will always be my favorite card even if it isn't the best these days

  • @KGilliam91
    @KGilliam91 7 місяців тому

    I loved these two cars for some reason, the RPG theme was so cool.

  • @archwing3441
    @archwing3441 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm somewhat surprise a silent swordsman and Silent Magician weren't used in decks competitively. Even if you do nothing with it, it's still a fairly easy to summon spell negation. As mentioned in the beginning of the video, spells play such a crucial part in decks that I figured decks would run them just to slow down your opponent. Silent swordsman especially since it's an ever present threat into no spells.

  • @dankicks
    @dankicks 7 місяців тому

    Still have my Ulti Silent Swordsman 3+5 somewhere. Loved those cards. Especially when my opponent had Econ/Brain/Snatch 😂

  • @Dragen08
    @Dragen08 7 місяців тому +2

    No matter what though, this will always be my favorite archetype

  • @rockyledonio5341
    @rockyledonio5341 7 місяців тому +1

    0:30 calling me out for watching that vid at 3am exact was SO uncalled for…

  • @rcoderprogramming7727
    @rcoderprogramming7727 7 місяців тому +1

    6:20 flashback to that duel when i thought i could level down armed dragon 10 into 7 to finish up the game but instead lost my lv10 and was left with nothing 😑

  • @michaeltillinghast81
    @michaeltillinghast81 7 місяців тому

    @TheduelLogs I am watching this at 3:22 am. Your intro really freaked me out 😅

  • @chrissmiley9248
    @chrissmiley9248 7 місяців тому

    It's midnight for me, but I feel called out about the "watch at 3am" crack 😂

  • @Xylon_Games
    @Xylon_Games 7 місяців тому

    For level down you could use it to Dodge effects or attacks (quick play), so it still has "some" use.

  • @okitsqwerty
    @okitsqwerty 7 місяців тому +8

    Silent magician needs a reprint, she has seen zero play and she is $35~ I just want to put her into a cube why does waifu tax exist

    • @leeeyles1864
      @leeeyles1864 7 місяців тому

      What do you mean by "Put her into a cube"? A bunch of decks/cards that are of equal power for drafting/playing with friends?

    • @okitsqwerty
      @okitsqwerty 7 місяців тому

      @@leeeyles1864 yep! Was going to put her into a cube with monster league rules so any monster could be tributes to summon her. Hoping she gets a reprint in an ots or something

  • @tonymastro42
    @tonymastro42 6 місяців тому

    Silent Swordsman and Jinzo on the field together was fun. Always managed to anger my friends when I’d get them both out

  • @AtaeruCDX
    @AtaeruCDX 7 місяців тому +1

    I only played the game on and off in the past, but I thought the use for the silent cards was to play along side a spell counter deck. Essentially using and moving spell counters around to boost Silent Magician to max pretty quick. Or at least that's how I played my deck...

  • @benjaminseelking9483
    @benjaminseelking9483 7 місяців тому +1

    I am confused: Can you not place Spell Counters from other sources
    on SM LV4? Any competent Endymion Deck could have easy acces
    to a 3500 ATK Beatstick to put onto the Field here, or am i completly wrong?

  • @michaelmoser7497
    @michaelmoser7497 6 місяців тому

    LV monsters are a guilty pleasure of mine in this game. Most of them are pretty bad but the idea behind them is interesting enough for me to enjoy them and their challenge

  • @DragonsController8
    @DragonsController8 7 місяців тому +1

    You could combine Swordsman in a Phantom Knights deck which I’ve done to great effect

  • @the_solomon_sage8431
    @the_solomon_sage8431 7 місяців тому +2

    "walking, talking imperial order"
    i don't know about the 'talking' part...

  • @Beaudunk
    @Beaudunk 7 місяців тому +1

    The oxygen to the body line made sense but sounded out of character.

  • @ophiuchus_kin
    @ophiuchus_kin 7 місяців тому +1

    One of my favorite dumbest strats in Yu-Gi-Oh Spirit Caller, right next to playing Horus

  • @demontamerbf18
    @demontamerbf18 7 місяців тому

    0:27 "You wouldn't be able to have this video to watch at 3 am" Bro, it's literally 3:31 am and I'm watching this lol.

  • @veryhansyboy6697
    @veryhansyboy6697 7 місяців тому +1

    I still play silent swordsman sometimes in my warrior decks since a spell negate is very very powerful.

  • @Vic_Chaos_
    @Vic_Chaos_ 5 місяців тому +1

    Unfortunately, Yu-Gi-Oh was never as popular as it was during the DM era and it never will again. It's no wonder the nostalgic stuff gets all the support, since it was basically the last time in which the game even made sense in the first place.

  • @kraken0437
    @kraken0437 7 місяців тому +8

    Now let's see if Konami prints Silent Magician/Swordsman support in Legacy of Destruction that makes them Tier 1 and ages this video like milk lol.

  • @lordshaggyrogers9205
    @lordshaggyrogers9205 7 місяців тому +1

    yeah they are bad but i did love running silent swordsman retrain with power of the guardian sure ill take a 1k atk buff every turn plus a means of giving him multi attack for multiple procs of the power equip was and is still absolutely insane

  • @jonathansoriano3568
    @jonathansoriano3568 4 місяці тому

    It's 2am and not the first time it's been this close.

  • @CrimsonReaper189
    @CrimsonReaper189 7 місяців тому

    I really hope they rework the silence cards i love them so much. I think a gd rework for them would be to make a few spells that are not effected by negation that are designed to support the silence monsters then make a mew boss called silent duo or something that has effects based of the cards used to make it. For example just negates spells if made with level 4s if made with level 4 and 8 becomes non targetable and made with two level 8s makes it able to negate monster effects 3 times per turn. A gd ritual combo that works with the idea of silencing the opponent

  • @mannyblight6140
    @mannyblight6140 7 місяців тому

    Once played silent magician in magician pendulum as a tech and many time sir won me the game to summon level 8 unexpectedly due to bating the negation just to destroy it and then summon a decent beststick

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine9841 7 місяців тому +1

    I'll continue to campaign for the Ally of Justice cards, but the Worms and Aliens themselves could probably qualify for a Failed Cards episode.
    It would've been nice if Silent Paladin was at least better than her parents.

  • @Xiu83
    @Xiu83 7 місяців тому +6

    I love silent magician, but i love yubel more.
    Somehow im making both of these cards work in the same deck, blazing cartesia was a god send for the both of them.

  • @NiallByrne
    @NiallByrne 7 місяців тому

    Genuinely love silent swordsman and magician’s designs. They should retrained into an extra deck type monster that doesn’t require the LVL cards to summon.

  • @sukumuieywang8058
    @sukumuieywang8058 7 місяців тому +1

    This is perhaps the most tragic addition of this series