Konami definitely watches these videos to fall asleep at 3am. Every time you talk shit about cards being bad, Konami says, “Bet….” and releases support for them. First it was Genex and now it’s the Silent cards. 😂
The funny thing about Duel Logs snarking about Black Luster Soldier getting support is that it is now one of the strongest archtypes in Duel Links since the Yugis can summon multiple versions of all the BLS monsters on Turn 1.
To be fair Duel links has a very bizarre meta because of the skill system, reduced monster and spell zones, 4000 LP instead of the 8000, and decks having almost half as less cards in the deck as traditional Yugioh meaning you'll have less bricks. Duel links design helps more struggling decks become actually viable like Magical Muskets and Magikey which are 2 notoriously bad decks in regular Yugioh from the amount of bricking they give you.
@@Did_No_Wrongtrue, Magikeys and muskets are good decks that just do not play well with the amount of resources that regular yugioh allows but in a limited format where their consistency is key and skills can allow them to play against other decks. Really if DL isn't as scummy with its cards I would ahve been playing it alot more than MD
I remember using the Silent duo in one of the GBA games. Ironically I always found Silent Magician to be far more effective in a spell counter deck than it was in a Lvl up deck, because the attack growth can be accelerated using spell counter support like Alchemist of Black Spells. It was basically a discount Magical Marionette
These were supposed to be Yugi's ace monsters, representing him coming into his own and surpassing Atem. DSoD walked that back though and him use Magician Girls and Dark Magician again.
@@bigdaddyjh2002 if he really made it to diamond with those cards he probably just splashed whatever meta cards in the deck that were not from the archetype like Kashtira Fenrir and hand traps
Konami has tried multiple times to reference anime Card of Sanctity on Yugi support but has never considered that "At the start of your Main Phase 1" might actually be enough.
Normal Witch of the Black Forest, Link into Artemis, search Silent Magician, TS silent magician. Was doing this combo in decks that dont need a normal summon.
I really love the Silent cards and i think they should be Yugi's Ace Monsters, not Yami Yugi's Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl. Just makes sense to me to him have Silent Magician and Silent Swordsman
The only positive thing I can say about these "Silent" monsters... Is that their art was amazing. So amazing that it's almost a tragedy to see them die out like that xD
Lvl up mechanic needs a field spell that 1. Searches/adds back from the gy level up 2. Gives protection on summon (mound of the bound) 3. If the card is sent from the field to the gy add any level up or card that mentions it.
There is ONE strategy involving level down; and that is using it like defusion in the battle phase to go for game after your LV monster has already attacked. It's not much but it's A use that has won me the game when I was messing with it
@@roncerjani9063 🤣 listen man, they remade my Armed Dragons, I had to try everything, Lol. And Thats a simple strategy. The real trick is trying to turbo out Armed Dragon catapult cannon without using Ojama blue crash
There is another use I found but I don't see it happening often either, but basically LV down counts as a special summoned armed dragon LV 7 for armed dragon Catapult Cannon. Ojamatch does not.
Here’s my idea for a LV 12 version of Swordsman and Magician each: _Silent Swordsman LV 12_ (LIGHT) Level 12 Warrior/Effect _Can only be Normal Summoned/Set by using 5 face-up Spells you control as Tributes. (Quick Effect) Can only be special summoned (From your hand, deck or GY) If your opponent activates 5 or more Spell Cards or Effects during their turn. Unaffected by Spell cards or effects, and also, all Spell Cards and effects on the field are negated while this card is face-up on the field. If this card would be destroyed, banished, or negated by an opponent’s card or effect: You can tribute 1 Spell card from your hand or field instead. You can apply each of the following effects of “Silent Swordsman LV 12” once per turn:_ ⚪️(Quick Effect) You can tribute any number of spell cards from your hand or field: During your next turn, this card can attack extra times in a row equal to the number of tributes. ⚪️If this card would leave the field by an opponent’s card or effect: Special Summon 1 “Silent” or “LV” monster from your hand, deck or GY, except “Silent Swordsman LV 12”, ignoring it’s summoning conditions. ATK/3500 DEF/1000 _Silent Magician LV 12_ (LIGHT) Level 12 Spellcaster/Effect _Can only be Normal Summoned/Set by using 5 face-up Spells you control as Tributes. (Quick Effect) Can only be special summoned (From your hand, deck or GY) If your opponent activates 5 or more Spell Cards or Effects during their turn. Monsters you control are Unaffected by your opponent’s Spell Cards and effects, and also, unaffected by opponent’s card effects during any turn where they activate a spell card or effect. Monsters you control Gain 500 ATK/DEF for every Spell card or effect that’s activated or applied, and also for each card that is added to or removed from either players hands by card effects. You can apply each of the following effects of “Silent Magician LV 12” once per turn:_ ⚪️(Quick Effect) You can tribute any number of spell cards from your hand or field: During next Draw Phase, Excavate an equal number of cards; add all excavated spells to you hand, then shuffle the rest back into your deck. ⚪️If this card would leave the field by an opponent’s card or effect: Special Summon 1 “Silent” or “LV” monster from your hand, deck or GY, except “Silent Magician LV 12”, ignoring it’s summoning conditions. ATK/5000 DEF/1000
I think it's because they use a lot of spell cards and can loop them from the GY back to the hand and keep reactivating them multiple times in a turn.@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
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A couple corrections: -Silent Swordsman LV3 came out in Rise of Destiny, then LV5 in Flaming Eternity (so it is worse than you thought xD ) -Silent Magician (the retrain) also negates a Spell once per turn like Silent Swordsman does. She's not just "unaffected".
The way it was worded in the script was a bit weird, but we do say that both magician and swordsman have the spell negate. I remember double checking that
@@TheDuelLogs At around 12:05 ish is where I think the confussion stemmed from. I think you are referring to the highest LV forms of them, but the image on screen is that of the non-LV versions, so I suppose it was a talk about the archetypes overall.
@@TheDuelLogsanother mistake that i havent seen mentioned: its never said that silent magician gains 500 for each card in your hand, its different from swordsman which gains 500 in each standby. in fact you even say she gets stronger every standby at 14:15 when thats not true. its also why the spell draws you cards
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I came up with a dual retrain for silent swordsman and swords of revealing light a while ago… now would be as good a time as my to get feedback on that: 0:40 _Silent Swordsman of Revealing Light_ (LIGHT) Level 7 Warrior/Effect _(Quick Effect) You can special summon this card by tributing 1 “Swords of Revealing Light” or “LV” card from your hand or field. Unaffected by Spell cards or effects, and cannot be destroyed by battle. Once while this card is on the field (Quick effect), you can activate the following effect, but if you do, this card leaves the field during the end phase of your opponent’s 3rd turn:_ ⚪️ If your opponent controls a face-down monster, flip all monsters they control face-up. While this card is face-up on the field, Neither Player can declare attacks or activate spell cards or effects. _If this card leaves the field after it activates it’s effect(s), unless by it’s own effect(s): Special summon 1 “Silent” Monster from your hand or GY, Ignoring it’s summoning conditions._ ATK/2800 DEF/1000
Ill just say Silents were yugis coolest monsters and i still hold out hope they get some more support, either retrains, boss monsters backrow stuff whatever because them being Yugi's own Black Magician and Gaia were so amazingly cool and to them just getting left even in like DSOD was heartbreaking
I tried running this archetype here and there but it just needs a little more, oomph. Not omni negates or anything, just more to help LV and their respective sub archetype. I do still love Silent Swordsman as a whole though.
Again, the LV Monsters were done right with the Level Up mechanic in Magic: the Gathering. A simple cost, a very rewarding payoff (depending on the card). And man, Duel Links is just a format where some bad cards see play.
@@ich3730true. But even then, they're much easier to use and don't require any obtuse requirements. They can at least serve as janky, funny boss monsters, especially Lighthouse Chronologist.
If LV mechanics had been around in the very beginning with weird mechanics like Great Moth it might’ve had a chance to grow into something. Can’t make them too good otherwise they get abused. Horus LV8 couldve broke the game if you didn’t have to jump through so many hoops just to get him out and it’s not super easy to cheat out in the first place.
@@TheGreatSalsaManIt's more of a case that the final monster was made laughably OP to compensate for the LV mechanic being utter trash, but the opposite.
Duel Links be wild. It's a format where near full powered black wings and salamangreats aren't tiered but Ursatic is. And the deck to beat is black luster and potentially blue-eyes and Yubel.
They're probably just going to be retrained into new gandora support at this point so actual yugi can have an archetype and we can leave dm behind forever
I really loved the level up cards as a concept, and i would really loved to have seen them actually see competitive success, but it really sucks that they didnt get off the ground 😔😔
Early YGO was just too conservative with monsters (though not spells considering their spells from the first few sets were some of their most problematic lol) most of the time. So often they'd give summoning conditions that werent even remotely worth the pay off. Obviously the poster children for this were early fusion and ritual monsters. Like look at the best level up line with Horus. His base form needs to destroy something by battle back in the day when 1900 vanilla beatsticks or bigger beatsticks with detrimental effects (goblin attack force, zombyra, etc) were considered hot commodities and totally legit for deck building and if you didn''t have a baller stat line, your effect needed to be amazing...and he has to level up by winning a battle with only 1600 attack. Ridiculous. And he wasn't even remotely the hardest effect to pull off. Even Horus wouldn't have seen play if level up didn't exist. Though his level 6 was normal summonable iirc and had the satts to win a fight and level up on his own, so there's that.
I find it a neat attention to detail that Silent Magician LV8 has the same attack as LV4 with 5 counters on it (1000 ATK baseline with an additional 2500 ATK from the 5 counters which increase ATK by 500 per counter)
I have a feeling that silent burning is more or less supposed to help the silent magician retrain. If i remember correctly, that monster gains 500 ATK for each card in your hand. That being said, having your opponent draw multiple cards is uh...ehh....
6:20 flashback to that duel when i thought i could level down armed dragon 10 into 7 to finish up the game but instead lost my lv10 and was left with nothing 😑
If "Silent Magician & Swordsman" (and family) ever make it to Rush Duels, I'm sure the Level Up mechanic will be removed since: 1) It is an obsolete mechanic. Additionally, Rush Duels already removed many classic Mechanics like Chains or Continuous Spell/Trap Card from the game. 2) It is very slow. In Rush Duels, what you want is to be as fast as possible and kill your Opponent with your Boss Monsters. There is no time to repair your next turn to have your Level Up Monster. In any case: - Low Level Monsters would serve as a bridge to reach high Level Monsters: example, this Monster can be used as two Tributes to bring in this specific Monster. - There would be many Retrains. Possibly even more playable or more versatile than the OG Monsters. This is because many Monsters do not meet the Rush Duels's stat standards.
I remember running Silent Magician in my Fortune Lady deck in Duel Links to pop my own synchro turn 1 so I could have spell negation, a possible 3500 if they got through it, and my synchro back next turn to do whatever I needed.
I'm somewhat surprise a silent swordsman and Silent Magician weren't used in decks competitively. Even if you do nothing with it, it's still a fairly easy to summon spell negation. As mentioned in the beginning of the video, spells play such a crucial part in decks that I figured decks would run them just to slow down your opponent. Silent swordsman especially since it's an ever present threat into no spells.
I just realized Silent Swordsman is a good tech option for Hero decks. They currently have no negates (Not counting Dark Angel) and this card can be searched with ROTA and can summon itself easily. You would have to summon him early in the combo before the "Can only summon HERO monster for the rest of the turn" restriction kicks in later in the combo
I am confused: Can you not place Spell Counters from other sources on SM LV4? Any competent Endymion Deck could have easy acces to a 3500 ATK Beatstick to put onto the Field here, or am i completly wrong?
I feel like you were overly harsh on the LV monsters in general. Level down has applications like dodging effects and recycling. They even had a time in the spotlight where they were a viable rogue strategy in Duel Links. Wonder balloon + LV Insects was annoying AF over there, and Horus has been strong against A LOT of events especially when problematic spells we don't have access to are at play.
I made a successful silent magician + lightsworn deck that I made it to legend 2 with maybe 3 years ago. Silent magician will always be my favorite card even if it isn't the best these days
@@leeeyles1864 yep! Was going to put her into a cube with monster league rules so any monster could be tributes to summon her. Hoping she gets a reprint in an ots or something
LV monsters are a guilty pleasure of mine in this game. Most of them are pretty bad but the idea behind them is interesting enough for me to enjoy them and their challenge
as someone who uses a silent deck in duel links, a few interesting facts/corrections for the cards. -Silent Magician doesn't gain power during the standby phase. she only gets stronger with how many cards you have in hand, so silent burning works better for her as you will get 4000 attack points during that battle phase. -speaking of Silent burning, you would think using it would give silent magician level 4 all the counters it needs. but in actuality you will only get 1 counter as her effect doesn't count how many cards are drawn, just the cards being drawn that turn, so that card is worthless for level 4.
I love silent magician, but i love yubel more. Somehow im making both of these cards work in the same deck, blazing cartesia was a god send for the both of them.
I could only think of using Level down in a mirror match, but then again all of the Level monsters you'd want to use it against are either immune to spells or can negate them freely.
LV Down is for when the opponent has crippled your boss and/or to miss targeting. It's not "the worst card", it's just tech-y and situational as all hell.
"Did it turn out ok for them? Of course not! you wouldn't have this video to watch at 3 am if they were any good." Damn I don't feel attacked, just seen. Like I was hiding behind something and somebody waved to me and went about their day.
yeah they are bad but i did love running silent swordsman retrain with power of the guardian sure ill take a 1k atk buff every turn plus a means of giving him multi attack for multiple procs of the power equip was and is still absolutely insane
I only played the game on and off in the past, but I thought the use for the silent cards was to play along side a spell counter deck. Essentially using and moving spell counters around to boost Silent Magician to max pretty quick. Or at least that's how I played my deck...
Honestly i want a silent magician archetype. It'd be eaaier to do than silent swordsman and the silent archetype were Yugi's version of the magicians during the ceremonial duel.
Ultimate Insect is supposed to be based on Great Moth, its effect is even based on that anime effect where the moth scales weakened the opponents monsters
It's clear Silent Magician and Silent Swordsman were meant to be splashed into Dark Magician and Buster Blader/Poker Knights respectively. Unfortunately there is no support that helps both out to fit in homogeneously outside of maybe Souls discarding their respective Quickplays.
Genuinely love silent swordsman and magician’s designs. They should retrained into an extra deck type monster that doesn’t require the LVL cards to summon.
One way would be to make the big LVs be able to be Special Summoned in one turn and do something in the hand to not be a brick. Which wouldn't even make them LV monsters at this point. It's kinda like Geminis, it's a stupid mechanic, and had no way or reason to be saved.
I remember that time in facebook community some dude flexing his three copies of Prismatic Silent Magician both level 4 and level 8 in Duel Links Kindly reminder that Silent Magician in Duel Links can only be purchased using real money with a small chance of it turned into a Prismatic
While silent burning is still a garbage card you missed the point of silent magician which was basically for every card you have in hand it would be like slifer the sky Dragon not so level four can go into level 8 that wasn't the point The card is still terrible silent burning is complete garbage but it wasn't so you can level up into level 8 it was so your silent magician had more attack points than it already currently has
I don't care how bad these cards are, i will always love these guys from how they worked in the anime
Boy do I have good news for you.
having your master being the best cheater in the anime does help XD
@@snowman_ovenAtem is the cheater not yugi
11:59 "The upside of potentially getting a walking, talking Imperial Order..."
He doesn't talk, he's silent 😶
Konami definitely watches these videos to fall asleep at 3am. Every time you talk shit about cards being bad, Konami says, “Bet….” and releases support for them. First it was Genex and now it’s the Silent cards. 😂
The funny thing about Duel Logs snarking about Black Luster Soldier getting support is that it is now one of the strongest archtypes in Duel Links since the Yugis can summon multiple versions of all the BLS monsters on Turn 1.
To be fair Duel links has a very bizarre meta because of the skill system, reduced monster and spell zones, 4000 LP instead of the 8000, and decks having almost half as less cards in the deck as traditional Yugioh meaning you'll have less bricks. Duel links design helps more struggling decks become actually viable like Magical Muskets and Magikey which are 2 notoriously bad decks in regular Yugioh from the amount of bricking they give you.
@@Did_No_Wrongtrue, Magikeys and muskets are good decks that just do not play well with the amount of resources that regular yugioh allows but in a limited format where their consistency is key and skills can allow them to play against other decks.
Really if DL isn't as scummy with its cards I would ahve been playing it alot more than MD
I don't think insulting other people waifus is a good idea duel logs.
Yes, start the flame war. Spread the clout. 😈
^ i'm behind this
Weebs are gross
@@thatman666"Flameswordsman War"😏
The waifu warriors are sharpening their pitchforks
I remember using the Silent duo in one of the GBA games. Ironically I always found Silent Magician to be far more effective in a spell counter deck than it was in a Lvl up deck, because the attack growth can be accelerated using spell counter support like Alchemist of Black Spells.
It was basically a discount Magical Marionette
Exactly what I was thinking, plus with stuff like certain Endymion cards you can put a bunch of spell counters on it more easily
These were supposed to be Yugi's ace monsters, representing him coming into his own and surpassing Atem.
DSoD walked that back though and him use Magician Girls and Dark Magician again.
I love the silent swordsman cards. I got Diamond in master duel with them . Silent sword slash is overpowered and I love it.
Duel links reference 👀
Oh! Wow! Do you have a deck list? I tried but only got to Platinum 4 before going back down to 5.
@hgsqu33zy post the deck list my dude.
my deck could only go to platinum.
@@bigdaddyjh2002 if he really made it to diamond with those cards he probably just splashed whatever meta cards in the deck that were not from the archetype like Kashtira Fenrir and hand traps
@@ooperblownup Not like it really matters.
Legacy of Destruction leaks just came out and we got a bunch of Small Yugi supports including for Silent Swordsman and Magician 😂
Konami really have beef with this dude.
As someone whose username is based on the “Silent” archetype. I was kinda sad they don’t play that much ( unless it’s duel links)
"but in duel links"
Konami has tried multiple times to reference anime Card of Sanctity on Yugi support but has never considered that "At the start of your Main Phase 1" might actually be enough.
Normal Witch of the Black Forest, Link into Artemis, search Silent Magician, TS silent magician. Was doing this combo in decks that dont need a normal summon.
in the Silent magician part, you accidentally said "silent swordsman lv4 and silent magician lv8"
just a reminder, still a great video
10 days later: "Silent Support". Why is Konami so good at ruining Archetype videos?
I really love the Silent cards and i think they should be Yugi's Ace Monsters, not Yami Yugi's Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl. Just makes sense to me to him have Silent Magician and Silent Swordsman
The only positive thing I can say about these "Silent" monsters... Is that their art was amazing. So amazing that it's almost a tragedy to see them die out like that xD
And now new Silent support just came out.
Please please do a BLS failed video next, he too needs new support already. 😂
Lvl up mechanic needs a field spell that
1. Searches/adds back from the gy level up
2. Gives protection on summon (mound of the bound)
3. If the card is sent from the field to the gy add any level up or card that mentions it.
There is ONE strategy involving level down; and that is using it like defusion in the battle phase to go for game after your LV monster has already attacked.
It's not much but it's A use that has won me the game when I was messing with it
You messed with it? Nobody on earth messes with LV monsters in the first place, and you messed with their shittiest card?
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@@roncerjani9063 🤣 listen man, they remade my Armed Dragons, I had to try everything, Lol. And Thats a simple strategy. The real trick is trying to turbo out Armed Dragon catapult cannon without using Ojama blue crash
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There is another use I found but I don't see it happening often either, but basically LV down counts as a special summoned armed dragon LV 7 for armed dragon Catapult Cannon. Ojamatch does not.
Here’s my idea for a LV 12 version of Swordsman and Magician each:
_Silent Swordsman LV 12_ (LIGHT)
Level 12
Warrior/Effect
_Can only be Normal Summoned/Set by using 5 face-up Spells you control as Tributes. (Quick Effect) Can only be special summoned (From your hand, deck or GY) If your opponent activates 5 or more Spell Cards or Effects during their turn. Unaffected by Spell cards or effects, and also, all Spell Cards and effects on the field are negated while this card is face-up on the field. If this card would be destroyed, banished, or negated by an opponent’s card or effect: You can tribute 1 Spell card from your hand or field instead. You can apply each of the following effects of “Silent Swordsman LV 12” once per turn:_
⚪️(Quick Effect) You can tribute any number of spell cards from your hand or field: During your next turn, this card can attack extra times in a row equal to the number of tributes.
⚪️If this card would leave the field by an opponent’s card or effect: Special Summon 1 “Silent” or “LV” monster from your hand, deck or GY, except “Silent Swordsman LV 12”, ignoring it’s summoning conditions.
ATK/3500 DEF/1000
_Silent Magician LV 12_ (LIGHT)
Level 12
Spellcaster/Effect
_Can only be Normal Summoned/Set by using 5 face-up Spells you control as Tributes. (Quick Effect) Can only be special summoned (From your hand, deck or GY) If your opponent activates 5 or more Spell Cards or Effects during their turn. Monsters you control are Unaffected by your opponent’s Spell Cards and effects, and also, unaffected by opponent’s card effects during any turn where they activate a spell card or effect. Monsters you control Gain 500 ATK/DEF for every Spell card or effect that’s activated or applied, and also for each card that is added to or removed from either players hands by card effects. You can apply each of the following effects of “Silent Magician LV 12” once per turn:_
⚪️(Quick Effect) You can tribute any number of spell cards from your hand or field: During next Draw Phase, Excavate an equal number of cards; add all excavated spells to you hand, then shuffle the rest back into your deck.
⚪️If this card would leave the field by an opponent’s card or effect: Special Summon 1 “Silent” or “LV” monster from your hand, deck or GY, except “Silent Magician LV 12”, ignoring it’s summoning conditions.
ATK/5000 DEF/1000
sky striker is gonna have a field day with this
@@steelshoelace1970 why sky Stryker in particular?
I think it's because they use a lot of spell cards and can loop them from the GY back to the hand and keep reactivating them multiple times in a turn.@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
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Bold video for someone in mind crushing distance
I'd argue Silent Swordsman LV5 was.....okay back in the day. it didn't NEED to be special summoned which helped a lot.
A couple corrections:
-Silent Swordsman LV3 came out in Rise of Destiny, then LV5 in Flaming Eternity (so it is worse than you thought xD )
-Silent Magician (the retrain) also negates a Spell once per turn like Silent Swordsman does. She's not just "unaffected".
+ silent magician doesnt get stronger every standby phase like silent swordsman but increases its atk according to your cards in hand like slifer
The way it was worded in the script was a bit weird, but we do say that both magician and swordsman have the spell negate. I remember double checking that
@@TheDuelLogs At around 12:05 ish is where I think the confussion stemmed from. I think you are referring to the highest LV forms of them, but the image on screen is that of the non-LV versions, so I suppose it was a talk about the archetypes overall.
@@TheDuelLogsanother mistake that i havent seen mentioned: its never said that silent magician gains 500 for each card in your hand, its different from swordsman which gains 500 in each standby. in fact you even say she gets stronger every standby at 14:15 when thats not true. its also why the spell draws you cards
ohhh, yeah my editor used the wrong cards there lol@@Sleepy0173
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Errata modulation to say: treat it as if it was special summoned properly first then special summon it....
I came up with a dual retrain for silent swordsman and swords of revealing light a while ago… now would be as good a time as my to get feedback on that: 0:40
_Silent Swordsman of Revealing Light_ (LIGHT)
Level 7
Warrior/Effect
_(Quick Effect) You can special summon this card by tributing 1 “Swords of Revealing Light” or “LV” card from your hand or field. Unaffected by Spell cards or effects, and cannot be destroyed by battle. Once while this card is on the field (Quick effect), you can activate the following effect, but if you do, this card leaves the field during the end phase of your opponent’s 3rd turn:_
⚪️ If your opponent controls a face-down monster, flip all monsters they control face-up. While this card is face-up on the field, Neither Player can declare attacks or activate spell cards or effects.
_If this card leaves the field after it activates it’s effect(s), unless by it’s own effect(s): Special summon 1 “Silent” Monster from your hand or GY, Ignoring it’s summoning conditions._
ATK/2800 DEF/1000
Ill just say Silents were yugis coolest monsters and i still hold out hope they get some more support, either retrains, boss monsters backrow stuff whatever because them being Yugi's own Black Magician and Gaia were so amazingly cool and to them just getting left even in like DSOD was heartbreaking
I tried running this archetype here and there but it just needs a little more, oomph. Not omni negates or anything, just more to help LV and their respective sub archetype.
I do still love Silent Swordsman as a whole though.
Again, the LV Monsters were done right with the Level Up mechanic in Magic: the Gathering. A simple cost, a very rewarding payoff (depending on the card).
And man, Duel Links is just a format where some bad cards see play.
level up creatures were garbage tho. Paying so much mana just for your opponent to remove the thing on the last activation.
@@ich3730true. But even then, they're much easier to use and don't require any obtuse requirements.
They can at least serve as janky, funny boss monsters, especially Lighthouse Chronologist.
If LV mechanics had been around in the very beginning with weird mechanics like Great Moth it might’ve had a chance to grow into something. Can’t make them too good otherwise they get abused. Horus LV8 couldve broke the game if you didn’t have to jump through so many hoops just to get him out and it’s not super easy to cheat out in the first place.
@@TheGreatSalsaManIt's more of a case that the final monster was made laughably OP to compensate for the LV mechanic being utter trash, but the opposite.
Duel Links be wild. It's a format where near full powered black wings and salamangreats aren't tiered but Ursatic is. And the deck to beat is black luster and potentially blue-eyes and Yubel.
They're probably just going to be retrained into new gandora support at this point so actual yugi can have an archetype and we can leave dm behind forever
Fuck I should have bought lottery tickets
Silent Sword Slash now has a new super bulky target in Silent Swordsman Zero
that'll be really fun
How come Everytime you bring up certain cards those cards end up getting retrains or something a week or so later?
Its a known phenomenon with Yugitubers. Rata makes the same thing happen
Of all the acronyms Konami could have chosen for Nightmare Troubadour, they chose NTR.
NEX: Silent Magician & Swordsman Thunder lv
Mr. DuelLogs did it again ... HOW DO YOU DO IT?!
And can you please give my favorites Nephthys some new support? :')
I really loved the level up cards as a concept, and i would really loved to have seen them actually see competitive success, but it really sucks that they didnt get off the ground 😔😔
Early YGO was just too conservative with monsters (though not spells considering their spells from the first few sets were some of their most problematic lol) most of the time. So often they'd give summoning conditions that werent even remotely worth the pay off. Obviously the poster children for this were early fusion and ritual monsters.
Like look at the best level up line with Horus. His base form needs to destroy something by battle back in the day when 1900 vanilla beatsticks or bigger beatsticks with detrimental effects (goblin attack force, zombyra, etc) were considered hot commodities and totally legit for deck building and if you didn''t have a baller stat line, your effect needed to be amazing...and he has to level up by winning a battle with only 1600 attack. Ridiculous. And he wasn't even remotely the hardest effect to pull off. Even Horus wouldn't have seen play if level up didn't exist. Though his level 6 was normal summonable iirc and had the satts to win a fight and level up on his own, so there's that.
Silent Magician's design baffles me, it's like a tribute to Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth.
I loved these two cars for some reason, the RPG theme was so cool.
To be fair Knight engine was played in Exostister and did top some regionals so its not "Failed"
Failed means on their own
Doesn’t count if you combine them with another superior archtype
@aceclover758 if you go by this, then ishizu, dragonlink, and bystial have failed too, lmao clown take
"walking, talking imperial order"
i don't know about the 'talking' part...
I find it a neat attention to detail that Silent Magician LV8 has the same attack as LV4 with 5 counters on it (1000 ATK baseline with an additional 2500 ATK from the 5 counters which increase ATK by 500 per counter)
All I'll say is that I made a lot of money selling my Silent Magician. Thanks waifu tax!
The oxygen to the body line made sense but sounded out of character.
No matter what though, this will always be my favorite archetype
I don't even play Yu-Gi-Oh anymore but I love watching your videos
Please do a video on the seal of orichalcos/the arichalcos anime arc cards!
to watch at 3 AM hit me so fucking hard LOL
I have a feeling that silent burning is more or less supposed to help the silent magician retrain. If i remember correctly, that monster gains 500 ATK for each card in your hand. That being said, having your opponent draw multiple cards is uh...ehh....
There are three Skills in Duel Links that support the Silent cards: Determination to Fight, Silent Duelist, and Level Change!
ya bruh thanks for the Silent support this was a good teaser keep it up
6:20 flashback to that duel when i thought i could level down armed dragon 10 into 7 to finish up the game but instead lost my lv10 and was left with nothing 😑
If "Silent Magician & Swordsman" (and family) ever make it to Rush Duels, I'm sure the Level Up mechanic will be removed since:
1) It is an obsolete mechanic. Additionally, Rush Duels already removed many classic Mechanics like Chains or Continuous Spell/Trap Card from the game.
2) It is very slow. In Rush Duels, what you want is to be as fast as possible and kill your Opponent with your Boss Monsters. There is no time to repair your next turn to have your Level Up Monster.
In any case:
- Low Level Monsters would serve as a bridge to reach high Level Monsters: example, this Monster can be used as two Tributes to bring in this specific Monster.
- There would be many Retrains. Possibly even more playable or more versatile than the OG Monsters. This is because many Monsters do not meet the Rush Duels's stat standards.
0:30 calling me out for watching that vid at 3am exact was SO uncalled for…
I remember running Silent Magician in my Fortune Lady deck in Duel Links to pop my own synchro turn 1 so I could have spell negation, a possible 3500 if they got through it, and my synchro back next turn to do whatever I needed.
Silent Swordsman and Jinzo on the field together was fun. Always managed to anger my friends when I’d get them both out
This one did not age well as well !
I'm somewhat surprise a silent swordsman and Silent Magician weren't used in decks competitively. Even if you do nothing with it, it's still a fairly easy to summon spell negation. As mentioned in the beginning of the video, spells play such a crucial part in decks that I figured decks would run them just to slow down your opponent. Silent swordsman especially since it's an ever present threat into no spells.
I just realized Silent Swordsman is a good tech option for Hero decks. They currently have no negates (Not counting Dark Angel) and this card can be searched with ROTA and can summon itself easily. You would have to summon him early in the combo before the "Can only summon HERO monster for the rest of the turn" restriction kicks in later in the combo
I am confused: Can you not place Spell Counters from other sources
on SM LV4? Any competent Endymion Deck could have easy acces
to a 3500 ATK Beatstick to put onto the Field here, or am i completly wrong?
I feel like you were overly harsh on the LV monsters in general. Level down has applications like dodging effects and recycling.
They even had a time in the spotlight where they were a viable rogue strategy in Duel Links.
Wonder balloon + LV Insects was annoying AF over there, and Horus has been strong against A LOT of events especially when problematic spells we don't have access to are at play.
I will never understand why cards that flat out state they ignore summoning conditions sometimes don't ignore summoning conditions.
I made a successful silent magician + lightsworn deck that I made it to legend 2 with maybe 3 years ago. Silent magician will always be my favorite card even if it isn't the best these days
Silent magician needs a reprint, she has seen zero play and she is $35~ I just want to put her into a cube why does waifu tax exist
What do you mean by "Put her into a cube"? A bunch of decks/cards that are of equal power for drafting/playing with friends?
@@leeeyles1864 yep! Was going to put her into a cube with monster league rules so any monster could be tributes to summon her. Hoping she gets a reprint in an ots or something
Now let's see if Konami prints Silent Magician/Swordsman support in Legacy of Destruction that makes them Tier 1 and ages this video like milk lol.
Here's hoping. ;_;
What’s legacy of destruction?
LV monsters are a guilty pleasure of mine in this game. Most of them are pretty bad but the idea behind them is interesting enough for me to enjoy them and their challenge
as someone who uses a silent deck in duel links, a few interesting facts/corrections for the cards.
-Silent Magician doesn't gain power during the standby phase. she only gets stronger with how many cards you have in hand, so silent burning works better for her as you will get 4000 attack points during that battle phase.
-speaking of Silent burning, you would think using it would give silent magician level 4 all the counters it needs. but in actuality you will only get 1 counter as her effect doesn't count how many cards are drawn, just the cards being drawn that turn, so that card is worthless for level 4.
Silent Swordman zero and Silent Magician says hi 😅😅😅😅
0:27 "You wouldn't be able to have this video to watch at 3 am" Bro, it's literally 3:31 am and I'm watching this lol.
I love silent magician, but i love yubel more.
Somehow im making both of these cards work in the same deck, blazing cartesia was a god send for the both of them.
Failed or not, I wish they would reprint them so I can get physical copies of them. They are currently too rich for my blood
It's 2am and not the first time it's been this close.
You could combine Swordsman in a Phantom Knights deck which I’ve done to great effect
Great video duel logs . My fav normal monster is dark blade
I could only think of using Level down in a mirror match, but then again all of the Level monsters you'd want to use it against are either immune to spells or can negate them freely.
I still play silent swordsman sometimes in my warrior decks since a spell negate is very very powerful.
LV Down is for when the opponent has crippled your boss and/or to miss targeting.
It's not "the worst card", it's just tech-y and situational as all hell.
"Did it turn out ok for them? Of course not! you wouldn't have this video to watch at 3 am if they were any good." Damn I don't feel attacked, just seen. Like I was hiding behind something and somebody waved to me and went about their day.
yeah they are bad but i did love running silent swordsman retrain with power of the guardian sure ill take a 1k atk buff every turn plus a means of giving him multi attack for multiple procs of the power equip was and is still absolutely insane
"...you wouldn't have this video to watch at 3 am..."
*checks clock*
How does he know???
I only played the game on and off in the past, but I thought the use for the silent cards was to play along side a spell counter deck. Essentially using and moving spell counters around to boost Silent Magician to max pretty quick. Or at least that's how I played my deck...
I wonder if Silent Burning was ever used for deck-out strategies
this duo deserves more support
Still have my Ulti Silent Swordsman 3+5 somewhere. Loved those cards. Especially when my opponent had Econ/Brain/Snatch 😂
6:41 It sounds to me like it'd be the perfect counter to LV monsters EXCEPT the Silent monsters since they'd be immune.
Honestly i want a silent magician archetype. It'd be eaaier to do than silent swordsman and the silent archetype were Yugi's version of the magicians during the ceremonial duel.
I'm surprised Great Moth never got a level version.
Ultimate Insect is supposed to be based on Great Moth, its effect is even based on that anime effect where the moth scales weakened the opponents monsters
@@darksilvania122 thanks for telling me.
Silent magician is my childhood crush, that booba is level 12 alone
@TheduelLogs I am watching this at 3:22 am. Your intro really freaked me out 😅
"...you wouldn't have this video to watch at 3 a.m. if they turned out fantastic"
...why you gotta call us out like this lmao
It's clear Silent Magician and Silent Swordsman were meant to be splashed into Dark Magician and Buster Blader/Poker Knights respectively.
Unfortunately there is no support that helps both out to fit in homogeneously outside of maybe Souls discarding their respective Quickplays.
0:29 excuse me. I am only watching this at 2 AM thank you.
Genuinely love silent swordsman and magician’s designs. They should retrained into an extra deck type monster that doesn’t require the LVL cards to summon.
I guess one way to improve the archetype is for it to get support but I doubt that it’ll happen or it’ll even help the archetype
One way would be to make the big LVs be able to be Special Summoned in one turn and do something in the hand to not be a brick. Which wouldn't even make them LV monsters at this point. It's kinda like Geminis, it's a stupid mechanic, and had no way or reason to be saved.
@@roncerjani9063 Yeah I agree
Failed Cards: Valkyrie Archetype
I used to used silent magician in Zara magicians as a tech and many times the negates and floating came in handy
I'm a failed yugioh mechanic...
I remember that time in facebook community some dude flexing his three copies of Prismatic Silent Magician both level 4 and level 8 in Duel Links
Kindly reminder that Silent Magician in Duel Links can only be purchased using real money with a small chance of it turned into a Prismatic
While silent burning is still a garbage card you missed the point of silent magician which was basically for every card you have in hand it would be like slifer the sky Dragon not so level four can go into level 8 that wasn't the point The card is still terrible silent burning is complete garbage but it wasn't so you can level up into level 8 it was so your silent magician had more attack points than it already currently has