Just so that everyone knows the correct pronunciation of Tymaret, the Murder King is "Tymaret, the *Murder!* King" with a lot of emphasis on the *Murder!*
This game was so fun, shoutout to the tymaret deck for holding strong against a bunch of blue, and another huge shoutout to the temmet deck for just. making burnished harts. I loved that.
Really curious to see the full Urza list. Unfortunately, Urza falls into the same category as guys like Yawgmoth and Maelstrom Wanderer in that you can sneeze on them and do broken things, so I'd love to see a not-so-degenerate build from this commander.
There's a slight mistake at 11:00, Treasures need to be tapped and sacrificed for mana, seeing as they were previously tapped with Urza, Max wouldn't be able to sac one for mana
I may well be missing something, but couldn't Martin have Fractured Identity'd the Ashnod's Altar instead? I dont see any obvious artifact sac/recursion at least, and Nick needed the mana to get his loop going? Not that giving either of the other two players at the table an Ashnod's would've been particularly great, mind you (they both seemed to have ways of making a few critters here and there), but... at least not instantly game-ending?
Giving the Urza player more mana to play with didn't seem much better to me, especially when his commander was safe with his boots, and getting rid of the Siege-Gang Commander would've been just as effective if Nick didn't have that Animate Dead in hand.
@@DarkEinherjar oh right, misremembered how the Death Mantle worked exactly. Yeah you're right, just looking at the board that may well have been the safer option... weighing the surefire benefits for the other guys against the decent chance that a Rakdos deck like that has some form of creature recursion available "right now" is pretty much a coinflip I guess :-)
I just realized that the safest play was to wait until Nick popped the Siege-Gang Commander to trigger the Deathmantle and respond to it by exiling the Deathmantle.
There was. In response to the first sacrifice of Siege-Gang, Martin could've Fractured the Deathmantle, in short fizzling the combo unless Nick had counter magic of his own
Why would anybody be angry at that win at [spoiler] a turn 8 combo win? he had multiple pieces out for several turns [/spoiler] and nobody did anything against him :o
Because apparently it's a heresy to win in Magic without tapping your dudes sideways and beating your opponents down in combat. When someone closes out the game with a large Exsanguinate or Torment of Hailfire, people also complain...
Frankly, I feel like there's way more people that complain about people who hate combos than the actual number people who go around complaining about infinite combos.
Funny story: the president for our MTG club at college put the names of the people that he plays with on goblin token cards. He didn't have enough and I was put on the elemental token (with elemental crossed out and goblin written in) that was used for the goblin tokens
9.40 - 13:00 Well, they also let Nick untap with an Altar of Dementia on the board. Not that much of a surprising combo win. The bigger surprise was that Nick didn't even need the Altar of Dementia, because he had Ashnod's Altar too.
Not sure why people tend to get riled by a combo finish in a Commander game when it's turn 8. Like everybody had a chance to have some fun and do something hopefully by that point.
The problem isn't that the combo ended the game suddenly, it's that Nick did literally nothing that game. It was a 3-players game with somebody chiming in to ask them to move to the next one.
That was the other three players fault. He is running the deck with the least ramp potential and card draw he need to time to build up. People could have focused him down pretty easily.
this is a classic EDH problem. Typically when a player isn't doing much you don't want to pick on them for the feel bads but when the deck that "isn't doing anything" pulls a combo win because everyone was leaving them alone then you start to learn not to leave anyone alone for too long
Yeah, people need to learn to see free sacrifice outlets (particularly the ones that generate significant resources like Ashnod's) as potential combo pieces and start eyeing their ability to find answers for them should the rest of the combo show up. Especially when it doesn't look like the deck playing them doesn't seem to be committing resources to actually doing anything else on the board. (If they aren't committing to the board in Rakdos, then presumably it's because either they really drew that poorly, or they've got one of these loops waiting to fire once they can assemble it and see the opportunity)
He could also wait for the Deathmantle to resolve and then exile it with the Fractured Identity in response to the first Deathmantle trigger on Siege Gang's death. None of the sacrifice outlets on the Tymaret player's board are for Artifacts, and even if they were, it's a lot less likely for that deck to find a Goblin Welder effect than an Animate Dead effect imo.
I really like the style of the videos! :) Maybe you could switch up the music now and then? :P Especially after binge watching a bunch of videos it get's really irritating :(
There have in fact been a few different music pieces in the backgroud over the course of the time I've been watching. Perhaps a little more often would be nice, though.
Why Mart didn't exiled literally any other combo piece? I mean, it was obvious he was gonna sac the goblin, and in those kind of deck grave recursion is a thing. Anyway I'm happy that the urza boy lost
Why do people look down on combo decks? It's my preferred way of playing but I don't see why people immediately roll their eyes the moment a combo player sits down at the table
this is how the smarter wins commanders free for all games, he still in the shadow planning and playing cards and the others took damage and loose resource and then time to finish them, thats why i dont like blue and green everyone want to take them down
I still dont understand why people hate combo so much I think it's fun and alot of combos are very interactive like soul sister and pheldegriff infinite hippos 🤣
Look at Nick, he didn't get to interact while others were playing until the turn that he won. I don't know how to feel about this but it looks like he won a game when noone cared about him :(
If Nick didn't have Animate Dead in his hand, it would've been the correct play. The safest play, however, would've been to wait for the Deathmantle's trigger and exile it in response.
Hey there was a big misplay on urza!!! He was equipped with SWIFTFOOT BOOTS and then was equipped with sword of the animus. ILLEGAL TARGET CAUSE OF HEXPROOF BOOTS
Hexproof allows the controller to target the creature with their own spells and abilities, unlike Shroud, which doesn't allow any targeting. You mixed Swiftfoot Boots with Lightning Greaves.
love your enthusiasm when mentioning urza
Just so that everyone knows the correct pronunciation of Tymaret, the Murder King is "Tymaret, the *Murder!* King" with a lot of emphasis on the *Murder!*
Pronouncing murder with a British accent is also vital to pronunciation
Murder. Murder! MURDER!!! You can't stop it!
Sword of the Anime is an amazing name
"When equipped creature deals combat damage to an opponent it's controller may call target player a Weeb."
@@juansanchez4301 Flavor Text: This sword is rumored to imbue the wielder with the powers of God and anime on his side.
Meanwhile, when no one was looking, the nonblue deck won the game. Kudos. :D
always be aware of the quiet dude....
@@gonzluisd why reading comments before watching ??
@@gonzluisd duuuuuuuuuude!!! You should click while blindfolded
@@gonzluisd Same for me. Have to skip this episode >.
That Fractured Identity should've been used on the Deathmantle in response to its trigger, in order to safely stop that combo.
Great game as always Muddstah! It's interesting seeing how other people have built Urza! 😁
Dance of the Many is one of those fun old cards people forgot about or do not know about. I love it in my Bruniclad deck.
This game was so fun, shoutout to the tymaret deck for holding strong against a bunch of blue, and another huge shoutout to the temmet deck for just. making burnished harts. I loved that.
I love that Burnished Hart tribal deck. Another interesting game of EDH with a sudden end, but hey he had to keep up the good fight against blue.
I was getting insanely nervous when I saw a rakdos deck basically just building up for 5 turns and playing sacrifice outlets
Really curious to see the full Urza list. Unfortunately, Urza falls into the same category as guys like Yawgmoth and Maelstrom Wanderer in that you can sneeze on them and do broken things, so I'd love to see a not-so-degenerate build from this commander.
There's a slight mistake at 11:00, Treasures need to be tapped and sacrificed for mana, seeing as they were previously tapped with Urza, Max wouldn't be able to sac one for mana
He used his lands to pay for the manacost of Sai's abillity and had to also sacc two artifacts. One of them being the treasure. So no mistake
Is there a hidden rivalry between Ben and Max that makes them ignore all potential value just to attack each other at all possible occasions?
so this is how we were supposed to play urza, can I get a construct tribal next time? XD
I have a blink urza that just makes a ton of constructs.
Ryan Kenney so did I lol.
I may well be missing something, but couldn't Martin have Fractured Identity'd the Ashnod's Altar instead? I dont see any obvious artifact sac/recursion at least, and Nick needed the mana to get his loop going? Not that giving either of the other two players at the table an Ashnod's would've been particularly great, mind you (they both seemed to have ways of making a few critters here and there), but... at least not instantly game-ending?
Giving the Urza player more mana to play with didn't seem much better to me, especially when his commander was safe with his boots, and getting rid of the Siege-Gang Commander would've been just as effective if Nick didn't have that Animate Dead in hand.
@@DarkEinherjar oh right, misremembered how the Death Mantle worked exactly. Yeah you're right, just looking at the board that may well have been the safer option... weighing the surefire benefits for the other guys against the decent chance that a Rakdos deck like that has some form of creature recursion available "right now" is pretty much a coinflip I guess :-)
I just realized that the safest play was to wait until Nick popped the Siege-Gang Commander to trigger the Deathmantle and respond to it by exiling the Deathmantle.
"Non-matching snow-covered island, shame on him."
I LOLed.
Shouldn't he have Fractured Identity on the Nim Deathmantle? I'm sure there was a point in the combo where he could do that
There was. In response to the first sacrifice of Siege-Gang, Martin could've Fractured the Deathmantle, in short fizzling the combo unless Nick had counter magic of his own
🎵 One of these things is not like the others 🎵
Damn that Sword blindflip was insane!
Chaos Warp failure feelings
Why would anybody be angry at that win at [spoiler] a turn 8 combo win? he had multiple pieces out for several turns [/spoiler] and nobody did anything against him :o
Haters gonna hate
Because apparently it's a heresy to win in Magic without tapping your dudes sideways and beating your opponents down in combat.
When someone closes out the game with a large Exsanguinate or Torment of Hailfire, people also complain...
Frankly, I feel like there's way more people that complain about people who hate combos than the actual number people who go around complaining about infinite combos.
Why do people hate the combo win. That was a great combo! One out of nowhere which was cool and it was fun to see in Rakdos.
Because it ended an otherwise interesting game.
Well that combo was telegraphed since he resolved a sac outlet the turn before.
I was actually expecting Living Death but then Siege Gang dropped...
So much dissapointment for Urza. Fantastic!
Janky list. The real power of Urza is the ability to play stax and break partity very easily.
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/02-09-19-urza-voltron/
Here's my Urza list from this game! Tried to take it in a different direction.
tymaret is quite uncommon to see. it really makes me want to test it
was looking forward to Temmet doing things. better luck next time
This game was taped before removal made an appearance in MTG :) Ok except for a late game Fractured Identity
Funny story: the president for our MTG club at college put the names of the people that he plays with on goblin token cards. He didn't have enough and I was put on the elemental token (with elemental crossed out and goblin written in) that was used for the goblin tokens
pleasantly surprised for a lack of Urza shenanigans :3
Id love to see games played using Commanders Quarters decks
9.40 - 13:00 Well, they also let Nick untap with an Altar of Dementia on the board. Not that much of a surprising combo win. The bigger surprise was that Nick didn't even need the Altar of Dementia, because he had Ashnod's Altar too.
Not sure why people tend to get riled by a combo finish in a Commander game when it's turn 8. Like everybody had a chance to have some fun and do something hopefully by that point.
very sweet, fair urza deck, like it
Why not fractured identity the death mantle with the equip trigger on the stack?
Great game guys! You could say this match showed a lot of..... HART!!! High five? Anyone o.o? Ok Ok ill go lol
Your pun has been ELKnowledged. **high-fives**
The problem isn't that the combo ended the game suddenly, it's that Nick did literally nothing that game. It was a 3-players game with somebody chiming in to ask them to move to the next one.
That was the other three players fault. He is running the deck with the least ramp potential and card draw he need to time to build up. People could have focused him down pretty easily.
That’s so funny I was actually just looking at making a Tymaret deck!
do we have the decklists?
Pessoal, fazem mais algumas gameplay com o Yawgmoth, por favor? Estarei esperando, obrigado.
Petition for upcoming Merch: Original Generic Goblin Tokens. Do it!
does anybody have a decklist of that temmet? it looks amazing
When does the video for the winner of the raffle happen?
NVM just found out I won... THANKS MTG MUDDSTAH
They need to actually make a "Sword of the Anime" :)
I hate when people see people building up a combo and no one responds. Like he wasn't even attacked once.
this is a classic EDH problem. Typically when a player isn't doing much you don't want to pick on them for the feel bads but when the deck that "isn't doing anything" pulls a combo win because everyone was leaving them alone then you start to learn not to leave anyone alone for too long
@@eddulisse yeah I just feel like in my group I'm always the player that is like. Hey is anyone seeing this? I'm always playing threat assessment.
Yeah, people need to learn to see free sacrifice outlets (particularly the ones that generate significant resources like Ashnod's) as potential combo pieces and start eyeing their ability to find answers for them should the rest of the combo show up. Especially when it doesn't look like the deck playing them doesn't seem to be committing resources to actually doing anything else on the board. (If they aren't committing to the board in Rakdos, then presumably it's because either they really drew that poorly, or they've got one of these loops waiting to fire once they can assemble it and see the opportunity)
Lists please
You were in Toronto? Dangit it woulda been so cool to get a game in.
The win was great and all, but I was too busy being distracted by nicks nails. Very eye catching
T-Urza. The T is silent.
Also invisible.
Murder king combo nice!
So disapointed with urza lol
Martin really misplayed there. All he had to do was fracture the altar and buy a turn. Nick wouldn’t have survived a full rotation.
He could also wait for the Deathmantle to resolve and then exile it with the Fractured Identity in response to the first Deathmantle trigger on Siege Gang's death. None of the sacrifice outlets on the Tymaret player's board are for Artifacts, and even if they were, it's a lot less likely for that deck to find a Goblin Welder effect than an Animate Dead effect imo.
Essefex true, and that’s even more optimal. Just bad decisions all around. Looks like they practically fed him the win.
Why didnt he fracture identity the ashnod's altar
Deck list please!!!!
I really like the style of the videos! :) Maybe you could switch up the music now and then? :P Especially after binge watching a bunch of videos it get's really irritating :(
There have in fact been a few different music pieces in the backgroud over the course of the time I've been watching.
Perhaps a little more often would be nice, though.
Sword of the Anime?
Little Timmy vs Urza? This I gotta see.
Why Mart didn't exiled literally any other combo piece? I mean, it was obvious he was gonna sac the goblin, and in those kind of deck grave recursion is a thing. Anyway I'm happy that the urza boy lost
I thought it was going to be an Urza game since they let Max build up a big board for too long.
Mart was hit by urza with the sword of body and mind on it then why was Ben taking the 10 cards from top of the library to graveyard??
11:59 Hey man, we're a multicultural country! We accept all kinds of creature types, and you can identify as whatever you want :D
Wow three of the commanders I've been looking at plus urza.
I really want a sword of the anime
Why do people look down on combo decks? It's my preferred way of playing but I don't see why people immediately roll their eyes the moment a combo player sits down at the table
I don't mind combo decks, however it is obnoxious for every game to end that way. I've taken to just playing aggro and killing them by turn four.
I don't think the combo finish was a bad thing at all, we still got a great game!
Yeah, wrong target there mister.
PUT UP THE NEW YAROK GAME!!!
Everyone is talking about the combo and urza deck, and I'm still trying to figure out why Nick has painted fingernails.
Soo "sword of the anime" is an inside joke?
The Urza player had to ruin the “T” Party!!! ROFL
OMA means grandmother in dutch xD
Combos are fine.. especially against an urza deck.
this is how the smarter wins commanders free for all games, he still in the shadow planning and playing cards and the others took damage and loose resource and then time to finish them, thats why i dont like blue and green everyone want to take them down
I still dont understand why people hate combo so much I think it's fun and alot of combos are very interactive like soul sister and pheldegriff infinite hippos 🤣
Look at Nick, he didn't get to interact while others were playing until the turn that he won. I don't know how to feel about this but it looks like he won a game when noone cared about him :(
Woot!
fourwordsalluppercase
cool :)
Sword of the anime LOL :D
I dont like infinite combos :/
bleah, combo so fun. Also really, fractured identity on the siege gang?
If Nick didn't have Animate Dead in his hand, it would've been the correct play. The safest play, however, would've been to wait for the Deathmantle's trigger and exile it in response.
F@#K COMBO!
no i actually liked the end - i was afraid of a win of "another" stupid boring urza deck!
nick miraba a los demas matarse jajaja
I always hate to see a deck do nothing the whole game then just win with a combo.
Hey there was a big misplay on urza!!! He was equipped with SWIFTFOOT BOOTS and then was equipped with sword of the animus. ILLEGAL TARGET CAUSE OF HEXPROOF BOOTS
You're thinking Shroud. Hexproof doesn't work that way.
Those are Swiftfoot Boots, not Lightning Greaves. Hexproof =/= Shroud.
Hexproof allows the controller to target the creature with their own spells and abilities, unlike Shroud, which doesn't allow any targeting.
You mixed Swiftfoot Boots with Lightning Greaves.
People who play greedy, overprivileged cards like Urza are unsympathetic to me