anny older bike thats a huge Vtwin, like a sv1000 or anny other transalp or whatever, are the best bikes you can get, i still dont understand the craze of supersports for the street, when you can have that huge amout of torque
Thanks so much for taking the time to put together a great review of two bikes that normal people can afford! I used to watch reviews of these two bikes ten years ago, and it is great to do so again, but with much better content and editing. A decade later and it is down to these two again for my next naked bike! (Owned a 2007.5 Tuono and severely regret selling it!)
That's not a true superduke R, the real one is the 2008 model. Black bike, orange frame, Titanium aluminium nitride coated anti dive forks, akrapovic headers, tickled engine to 132 bhp,...
Hi 👋 what are the main differences between the 2008 & the 2013 ones, colour more powerful? Better suspension anything else? Does the 08 have titanium valves?
Had both - still have the SDR. The Aprilia is a much easier ride, but the KTM is next level beast - horrible to ride below the speed limit, uncomfortable and horrible to commute on. However, you’ll never get bored of it as it’s super edgy and it feels like it’s gonna get you. I love mine - longest bike I’ve kept
I put north of 50,000 miles on my 1st gen 2003 Tuono (and it had 20k miles when I bought it), and a great deal of that mileage was touring all over Western Canada and the US. And not credit-card touring, I had comfy camping gear strapped on the back along with a Ventura pack system. Added a Garmin Zumo, throttle lock, lower vario pegs, Powerlet socket for heated gear, a Sargent seat, with stock windscreen, and it was IMHO a better (well, more fun) touring bike than my heavily farkled 955 Sprint ST it replaced in just about every aspect other than range. The thirsty Tuono was good for about 150 miles with a tailwind and modest throttle, the Sprint could do 250 on a tank. Seriously bulletproof machine too, that Rotax lump never let me down (though I did keep up on valves, oil changes, chains, etc). When I finally sold the bike (moved to Malta for work, had to) in 2013 I died a little inside. As a consolation, I bought a 150cc Kymco scooter in Malta.
Had a tuono(in the same colours actually) and mate had a 990 superduke and had a go on it. The tuono is amazing but is in no way practical, pretty sure the ktm is the same. Thirstier than a hungover fish, high pegs, high maintenance etc etc. Wouldn't let that put anyone off of either though as are both brilliant.
L'Aprilia est excellente mais elle a 2 défauts : le frein arrière ne fonctionne JAMAIS (au moins sur les anciens modèles) et le circuit électrique est confié à des câbles de la taille de nouilles chinoises , elle est parfois capricieuse au démarrage par temps humide mais son moteur est un Rotax en béton armé. En débridant l'entrée d'air avec un filtre à air performant ,une dent de moins en pignon de sortie de boite c'est une tueuse ,facile, avec un chassie de sportive.
Stock Tuono seat is very very comfortable. The reach to the bars and high pegs will have you glad to stop for gas every 140 miles, which is about the latest my idiot light comes on.
I've been a naked sportsbike sort of guy for years. I've toured on them. Then I talked myself into a V-Strom 1000XT and did some mileage on that just recently. The thing about getting too hot and not having enough airflow? Exactly correct. I found myself leading off to the sides of the windscreen to evaporate the sweat on my face and scalp. I already miss some naked sportsbike experience. I will say it was a 101°F day however (38°C).
Excellent video, I have a 2017 Kawasaki ZX10R for track, but not comfortable for street, I also had a 2015 Kawasaki Versys 1000LT for touring, didn't really do much, so I traded for the 2016 Kawasaki Z1000, I think I have the best of both worlds !
Nice jamjar of coffee. It would be the KTM for me. KTM have had more reliability problems with their later bikes. Touring on naked bikes: I do it on a B-King. No problem at all. It's great around town, as well.
Hi there, glad you like the music. It was made in cubase specifically for this edit, I can't really say more than that. I think I called it number 13 and got inspiration from listening to Massive Attack.
I can only speak for the KTM but a couple of hours on a motorway is pretty tiring - have no wind protection is uncomfortable and no you dont want to sit on a motorrway for more than a hour nevermind all day. But the critical point is that big twin has a lot of vibration especially at 70mph up, not good touring material at all. Obviously there are people touring the world of C90's so anything is doable but if you want to do a tour of europe this isnt gonna be your first choice it wont just be fine
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The best review in months... from any channel! Need more of these older bike reviews!
Really enjoyed that as ever chaps - what a bummer we don't get the conclusion!!!
Well let's see. The Aprilia isn't twitchy nor uncomfortable and is dressed in an Armani suit.
I'm guessing it gets the win after this short break...
SuperDuke ! 👍
KTM addict 😘🥰😍
anny older bike thats a huge Vtwin, like a sv1000 or anny other transalp or whatever, are the best bikes you can get, i still dont understand the craze of supersports for the street, when you can have that huge amout of torque
Thanks so much for taking the time to put together a great review of two bikes that normal people can afford! I used to watch reviews of these two bikes ten years ago, and it is great to do so again, but with much better content and editing. A decade later and it is down to these two again for my next naked bike! (Owned a 2007.5 Tuono and severely regret selling it!)
That's not a true superduke R, the real one is the 2008 model. Black bike, orange frame, Titanium aluminium nitride coated anti dive forks, akrapovic headers, tickled engine to 132 bhp,...
Hi 👋 what are the main differences between the 2008 & the 2013 ones, colour more powerful? Better suspension anything else? Does the 08 have titanium valves?
Had both - still have the SDR. The Aprilia is a much easier ride, but the KTM is next level beast - horrible to ride below the speed limit, uncomfortable and horrible to commute on. However, you’ll never get bored of it as it’s super edgy and it feels like it’s gonna get you. I love mine - longest bike I’ve kept
I have a SMT 990 and this engine is just something out of this world
Me too, got a 2011 ABS with 6k kms on the clock two weeks ago.
do you have instagram?
No, too much hassle.
lol, it's ok, just wanted to show you my kate
Damn I love mine too
3:08, my favorite part lol
I put north of 50,000 miles on my 1st gen 2003 Tuono (and it had 20k miles when I bought it), and a great deal of that mileage was touring all over Western Canada and the US. And not credit-card touring, I had comfy camping gear strapped on the back along with a Ventura pack system. Added a Garmin Zumo, throttle lock, lower vario pegs, Powerlet socket for heated gear, a Sargent seat, with stock windscreen, and it was IMHO a better (well, more fun) touring bike than my heavily farkled 955 Sprint ST it replaced in just about every aspect other than range. The thirsty Tuono was good for about 150 miles with a tailwind and modest throttle, the Sprint could do 250 on a tank.
Seriously bulletproof machine too, that Rotax lump never let me down (though I did keep up on valves, oil changes, chains, etc). When I finally sold the bike (moved to Malta for work, had to) in 2013 I died a little inside. As a consolation, I bought a 150cc Kymco scooter in Malta.
I prefer the KTM 990 Duke with its very simple touring style
Touring ??
In the States used bikes are the only thing selling in good numbers....for the price though....why not?
That does backfire on us though, manufacturers then either kill off models or don't update them, or they do update but don't do it all the way.
This is a perfect example of a real world test for most of us. Good, used and bullet proof bikes going head to head.
Always enjoy your shows. Keep up the work guys.
that tuono looks real ugly from the side. . . . .but KTM, yyyyeeeeessss baby.
excellent review as usual - best thing on youtube - apart from the kitten videos of course !
Had a tuono(in the same colours actually) and mate had a 990 superduke and had a go on it. The tuono is amazing but is in no way practical, pretty sure the ktm is the same. Thirstier than a hungover fish, high pegs, high maintenance etc etc. Wouldn't let that put anyone off of either though as are both brilliant.
L'Aprilia est excellente mais elle a 2 défauts : le frein arrière ne fonctionne JAMAIS (au moins sur les anciens modèles) et le circuit électrique est confié à des câbles de la taille de nouilles chinoises , elle est parfois capricieuse au démarrage par temps humide mais son moteur est un Rotax en béton armé.
En débridant l'entrée d'air avec un filtre à air performant ,une dent de moins en pignon de sortie de boite c'est une tueuse ,facile, avec un chassie de sportive.
I love KTM, just put deposit on the 24 Duke390😁.
I want a KTM 990SM, can't find one in the US though, not at least for sale.
I've own KTM 950SMR & 990SMR absolutely loved them both!
Why did you change from the 990smr?
"They are cheap as chips"...sure they are XD
Harry Zappa Fisher
Cambridge Analytica totally!!!
Stock Tuono seat is very very comfortable. The reach to the bars and high pegs will have you glad to stop for gas every 140 miles, which is about the latest my idiot light comes on.
I am literally choosing between these two bikes! Love this channel, seems to keep up with what's really relevant. I think I'd take the Duke
I've been a naked sportsbike sort of guy for years. I've toured on them. Then I talked myself into a V-Strom 1000XT and did some mileage on that just recently. The thing about getting too hot and not having enough airflow? Exactly correct. I found myself leading off to the sides of the windscreen to evaporate the sweat on my face and scalp. I already miss some naked sportsbike experience. I will say it was a 101°F day however (38°C).
Really insane review , testing to its limits guys I enjoyed a lot thanks guys.
Excellent video, I have a 2017 Kawasaki ZX10R for track, but not comfortable for street, I also had a 2015 Kawasaki Versys 1000LT for touring, didn't really do much, so I traded for the 2016 Kawasaki Z1000, I think I have the best of both worlds !
Nice jamjar of coffee.
It would be the KTM for me. KTM have had more reliability problems with their later bikes.
Touring on naked bikes: I do it on a B-King. No problem at all. It's great around town, as well.
Great video. I would really enjoy to see more of these comparisons
Everyone can afford the newest bikes, but no one likes financing...
Rubbergently No, financing doesn't like me.
I've done touring on my R1200R,. Can't tour on a naked? Rubbish
Cost the earth?
The cost of a decent bike is about as much as the depreciation of a BMW the moment you drive it off the forecourt.
Why does this video never play?? Tried it loads of times on different devices and it never works. WTAF?? :-s
More of these videos please!!!
I love what you are calling twisty roads ;) - come here to europe.
Nice one, looking forward to part 2. Had to laugh though - I thought "Tackies" was very much an old West of Ireland word for trainers!!
I just got a 14 Tuono. Still Top 5 naked till this day.
Have the 2009 Tuono and will never sell it! Have the updated 2013 version and love both.
Good video. Makes me feel lucky. I’ve got both, 07 Tuono and 09 super duke but the blinged up R version. Brilliant machines
Which one would you use more as a toy? I literally can't decide
Please gents......what's the "background" music track ?? It's killer. Looking forward to Pt.2 Thanks
Hi there, glad you like the music. It was made in cubase specifically for this edit, I can't really say more than that. I think I called it number 13 and got inspiration from listening to Massive Attack.
Great show love it every time. And very nice test with these old bikes 😎
Harry: you had me at chips...
I can only speak for the KTM but a couple of hours on a motorway is pretty tiring - have no wind protection is uncomfortable and no you dont want to sit on a motorrway for more than a hour nevermind all day. But the critical point is that big twin has a lot of vibration especially at 70mph up, not good touring material at all.
Obviously there are people touring the world of C90's so anything is doable but if you want to do a tour of europe this isnt gonna be your first choice it wont just be fine
Please understand that your being seen by people all over the world, could you translate cost and measurements to USA people
Or you could google it the world dosnt revolve round the USA
I love Mat's voice. And his wit.
This is the only video I can't get to load
Fantastic content.
I want a 990 smr sooo bad. Nah, I NEED one. My body and soul long for that noise, that torque, that sm frame.
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