How a Touring Engineer Mixes Worship | The Grove Church

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    0:00 Intro
    1:00 History of the Church
    1:54 Homemade Acoustic Panels
    2:47 Audio
    15:10 LED Wall
    16:11 FOH Overview
    19:11 Lighting Design and Fixtures
    21:11 Video/Livestream
    22:40 The Chapel Venue
    26:29 Student Venue
    28:16 A Remote Tech Director
    29:37 Outro
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 88

  • @budget-church-livestreaming
    @budget-church-livestreaming Рік тому +70

    I love seeing a fairly large church like this not feeling like they have to go all out with their tech. It's obviously great, but it looks like a fairly modest setup that supports their church well. So good.

    • @hiptoalieu
      @hiptoalieu Рік тому +1

      It's clean and effective!

    • @DocNo27
      @DocNo27 Рік тому +5

      Yes - church funds are a precious resource that can be used in the community far more effectively than stroking the egos of tech directors lusting for toys. Bravo to them for prioritizing the right things.

    • @johnafriyie3671
      @johnafriyie3671 11 місяців тому

      how i wish i get some of your old machine for studio production in Ghana to train children

  • @nnamdivictore
    @nnamdivictore Рік тому +9

    Kyle is such a fantastic dude with a very deep sense of humor. Bless his heart.

  • @triplxrp4340
    @triplxrp4340 11 місяців тому +5

    Being the A/V Director at our church, gives me a lot of hope for our church after watching this video. We are a mobile church, and trying to transition into a building at some point in the near further. We’ve been mobile going on 9years, and at 1 point had an actual production every Sunday morning. But due to covid, we lost alot of our volunteers that would help setup. But now, slowly but surly, slowly building our a/v team back up.

    • @dustinsams6775
      @dustinsams6775 11 місяців тому +1

      The Grove was mobile for 7 years. Some of those mobile components are still in use both in our auditorium and our youth group space. The team has done a great job honoring my request to be frugal as we are a family that has just moved into our first permanent home. Dustin Sams, XP The Grove Church.

  • @DuckysCollection
    @DuckysCollection 10 місяців тому +2

    love watching how others set up and solve their problems

  • @isaacsitiakalaabwenje
    @isaacsitiakalaabwenje Рік тому +4

    I love the setting of Everything in This Arena. God Bless The Engineer Who built The Sound

  • @AngelSanchez-ge9og
    @AngelSanchez-ge9og 10 місяців тому +1

    even a modest set up still looks really espensive. just shows how much goes into the sound and video. we have a small church in grand prairie, and currently run a livestream also. great seeing these videos to get inspired and motivated.

  • @anthony_basta
    @anthony_basta Рік тому +3

    I subscribed to Worship Ministry School for 1 month, and the courses were really practical and simple.
    When they talk about a plugin, they don't show us how to get it, whereas you show us everything, right up to offering us a complete ableton template. You take us by the hand and lead us to greener pastures.
    I was reminded that Worship Ministry School really does make a difference. Keep up the good work!
    Sorry for the mistakes, I'm French and I use Deepl

  • @bflatmusiccimix1234
    @bflatmusiccimix1234 Рік тому +3

    I love this guy

  • @alexanderhall2713
    @alexanderhall2713 Рік тому +5

    Yes! Please do a tutorial of Smaart!

  • @wc4lif
    @wc4lif Рік тому +3

    Another amazing tour

  • @garrettbaudioandvideo
    @garrettbaudioandvideo Рік тому +1

    Very nice tech setup. We have a Behringer X32 as our main mixing console, with all the fader motors still working. We put a piece of gaff tape along the bottom of the console so that the paint would not get all scratched off.

  • @MrWilson-WithaPbass
    @MrWilson-WithaPbass Рік тому +2

    Love this , thanks guys . (Helpful) Love the Bass going into a sansamp !

  • @mcramp20
    @mcramp20 Рік тому +2

    Great video!
    Tuning and learning !

  • @JeffPelletierBabaJonan
    @JeffPelletierBabaJonan 11 місяців тому

    Ah geez, UA-cam keeps randomly putting this channel in my feed, my own bad for watching stuff I guess. Watching this makes me glad I left the church production life (and leaving faith).

  • @randshelton9588
    @randshelton9588 Рік тому +2

    I brought the concept of rechargeable batteries to our setup. We were spending a lot of $ .. the initial purchase of the batteries and charging units cost a little but overall we saved money. In a small church that can make a difference. I had a rotation so no one ever wound up with a low battery.

  • @keithprice7381
    @keithprice7381 10 місяців тому

    Great video to show use in a real situation. Good performers too

  • @gibsonguy5240
    @gibsonguy5240 11 місяців тому +1

    This was/is a very informative video. We are now raising money to build a new sanctuary. We are hoping NOT to barrow any money. It's a slow go. I'm overwhelmed with what this is going to cost. Once the building is built. Then the cost of technology is going to be a close rival. We probably need 2 million dollars. God help us!

  • @atc304.nonnnnnn
    @atc304.nonnnnnn Рік тому +1

    i love shure microphone

  • @jasonlapasinskas5302
    @jasonlapasinskas5302 Рік тому +13

    Is there a link to the zebra lighting fixtures?

  • @s3productions660
    @s3productions660 Рік тому +1

    it's so useful

  • @huntereubanks1325
    @huntereubanks1325 Рік тому +2

    I like using google chrome remote for remote work at my church. Its free and you can also use it on a mobile device

  • @worshipldrcaleb
    @worshipldrcaleb Рік тому +4

    4:45 I’m actually surprised at how few churches re-tune their room. We re-tune ours once every four months.

  • @noelerazo83
    @noelerazo83 Рік тому +1

    Saludos desde Honduras bendiciones

  • @parkerj23
    @parkerj23 4 місяці тому

    Oh man! You guys should definitely consider rechargeable batteries. It’s what we do for my church. Otherwise sweet tech set up!

  • @PateFamily_Sunny
    @PateFamily_Sunny Рік тому +1

    Great tour. I see everyone using what they have to the best of their abilities. However, those batteries are killing me to see. We use the DeLeePow 3400mAH rechargeable batteries and get a full year out of them. I bought them because the name just sounds so cool, but they do work well. Saves a ton of money on batteries and these are being recharged weekly

    • @cmcrombie024
      @cmcrombie024 Рік тому

      If I'm not mistaken, there are manufacturer options too for lithium rechargeable batteries too. We switched over and now we don't worry about mics or packs dying midway through our third service.

  • @jaymarkcastillo6012
    @jaymarkcastillo6012 Рік тому +1

    i have burden to upgrade our church sound , the problem is lot of money we need to improve. I have to pray for God answer

  • @vinnyivanov2906
    @vinnyivanov2906 5 місяців тому +2

    Can we please get a setup tour of a more conservative church and none of this party like scenes? All I ever see is these ultra modern churches, but nothing more based.

  • @TimothyFish
    @TimothyFish 11 місяців тому +1

    Given what the Bible says about groves, it always seems odd to me that someone would name a church "The Grove."

  • @alvina_sem
    @alvina_sem Рік тому

    слава Богу за вас, у нас в церкви висят линейные массивы QCF и стоит wing. Но здание по акустике очень сложное

  • @nils2868
    @nils2868 Рік тому +1

    The subs look like they are way too far apart and even if they couple the coverage is probably more narrow than it should be in such a wide room 😅

  • @_thisisdavid
    @_thisisdavid Рік тому +1

    Everytime I see one of these videos, I'm like I know nothing

    • @Churchfront
      @Churchfront  11 місяців тому

      hahaha! Reach out to us at worshipministryschool.com and we can help you know things!

  • @dcdigofire2
    @dcdigofire2 Рік тому

    hahaha what an answer "are they supposed to?"

  • @secureinmyrandom
    @secureinmyrandom 10 місяців тому

    Would it be possible to get a link or information on the zebra lights you guys mention?
    A quick google search only returns a few cheap rebranded Chinese lights and a bunch of unrelated sights and i'm almost positive that those aren't what you guys are talking about.

  • @timothyonyango1555
    @timothyonyango1555 11 місяців тому

    Helooo!
    I need help matching speakers and amplifiers.
    Low sounds cover the vocals on stage during my mixing work,how do I deal with that...

  • @mrvaloochy
    @mrvaloochy Рік тому +2

    Can I ask what acoustic treatment material this venue put inside the DIY panels? I want to do the same thing in our church, but I do not know what foam or insulation to purchase. thank you!

    • @DocNo27
      @DocNo27 Рік тому +2

      2x4 boxes filled with rock wool insulation and then just wrap with something that matches your venue's interior design used to be a very inexpensive and effective way to go, but rock wool has really gone up - but I still think it's the most cost effective way to go. Oh yeah, wrap in fire retardant fabric - it costs more but is worth it. You don't want a repeat of the station nightclub fire in your church!

  • @theOneAndOnlyPD
    @theOneAndOnlyPD Рік тому

    "Who hired this guy" 😂

  • @smysercc
    @smysercc Рік тому +3

    My brother in Christ...rechargeable batteries. Please.

  • @danteilmartello
    @danteilmartello Рік тому

    I opened the video expecting to dive in Sleep Token's live sound engeneer's setup

  • @TerenceChang98
    @TerenceChang98 Рік тому +3

    What wireless iems are they running??

    • @dylanraymusic
      @dylanraymusic Рік тому +4

      @terencechang233 For the wireless units themselves: Sennheiser G4 units. For the monitors: some of the band are running JH Audio custom IEMS and others are running the universal Shure 215's.

  • @tonyjavirod
    @tonyjavirod Рік тому +1

    Can’t speak for the cymbals but if your triggering Tom’s and maybe snare sometimes, why not switch to mesh heads?

    • @Isaiah_sn
      @Isaiah_sn Рік тому +1

      Being a drummer it’s the feel of hitting the drum head it’s just a preference between different drummers

    • @flavanthensome
      @flavanthensome Рік тому

      If the triggers fail, you can still switch to the mic easily.

    • @bmeijer7776
      @bmeijer7776 Рік тому

      He's most likely using the triggers for gates not actual samples. You still need the sample audio to trigger the gates nonetheless so the option will still be there :)

  • @garykerney2488
    @garykerney2488 11 місяців тому

    Where can I buy those zebra gobos?

  • @johnafriyie3671
    @johnafriyie3671 11 місяців тому

    how i wish to get some of your old machines to train children for worship

  • @stephenstange4194
    @stephenstange4194 Рік тому

    But, did you get to BurgerRobs in Titusville??

    • @Churchfront
      @Churchfront  Рік тому +1

      Yes sir. We grabbed lunch after this shoot

  • @jeremyrobinson9310
    @jeremyrobinson9310 Рік тому

    at the end of the day, is the end of the day

  • @JoshuaAina-ym1bt
    @JoshuaAina-ym1bt 11 місяців тому +1

    I don't get, what's the X32 for then if they have a Midas mixer ?

    • @Churchfront
      @Churchfront  11 місяців тому +1

      They use the x32 backstage as an In-ear monitor mixer to have complete and separate EQ and compression settings and control of their mixes. This also allows them to not have to use any of the outputs from the Midas (FOH mixer) for IEMS. EQ and compression that sounds good for IEM mixes might not sound best for FOH applications. They are also using Waves at FOH and don't want to have vocal tuning effects in a vocalists in-ear monitors while they're singing, as this creates a phasing effect in the singer's IEMS.

    • @JoshuaAina-ym1bt
      @JoshuaAina-ym1bt 11 місяців тому

      @@Churchfront Wow! This isn't exactly a minimalist setup then.

    • @JoshuaAina-ym1bt
      @JoshuaAina-ym1bt 11 місяців тому

      @@Churchfront By outputs you mean Auxes right?

    • @JoshuaAina-ym1bt
      @JoshuaAina-ym1bt 11 місяців тому

      @@Churchfront Would a set up that uses wedges instead of IEMs remove the necessity of another mixer asides the FOH?

  • @jamespelen5754
    @jamespelen5754 Рік тому

    what is the use of boss effects in x32?

    • @steveward6103
      @steveward6103 Рік тому

      No answer? What are you seeing tuning reference?

    • @abassplayer4life
      @abassplayer4life 11 місяців тому +1

      I'm not 100% sure, but the pedal may have been a digital delay. I am curious to its reason and function, too.

    • @Churchfront
      @Churchfront  11 місяців тому +1

      That was just a spare pedal that a guitarist had set down on the mixer. No function.

    • @Churchfront
      @Churchfront  11 місяців тому +1

      No reason or function. Just a resting place for a pedal that a guitarist removed from their board.

  • @EqDior
    @EqDior Рік тому +1

    hold on...im still trying to wrap my head around how is he getting 14 stereo outputs with this console?😦

    • @jscottbradshaw
      @jscottbradshaw Рік тому

      X32 - 32 outputs. He said 2 mono. so he COULD do 16 stereo. But he has 14 stereo and 2 mono.

    • @EqDior
      @EqDior Рік тому

      @@jscottbradshaw I was under the impression that it could only do a total of 40 ins and a total of 16 xlr plus 6 aux outs...what am i missing here in setting this up?

    • @EqDior
      @EqDior Рік тому

      Nevermind figured it out after looking in to the user outs page

  • @igorzavalnyi5341
    @igorzavalnyi5341 Рік тому

    but.... when you're touring you almost never have a perfectly tuned system unless you're working for top-tier artists.

  • @jscottbradshaw
    @jscottbradshaw Рік тому

    Zebra lights???

  • @teda88
    @teda88 Рік тому +1

    Doesn’t make sense to need to tune every week

    • @nicholasshelton5609
      @nicholasshelton5609 Рік тому +2

      Depends on the area and system, I’ve done shows where the system was perfect, it rained and the change in humidity made it to where we had to retune to get rid of some unwanted frequencies all in the matter of a few days. Sure not everyone needs to or wants to do it but I won’t harsh a dude for staying on top of it. It doesn’t cost anything but time if you know what you are doing and do it yourself.

  • @zaimvideos
    @zaimvideos Рік тому +5

    Why do these guys look the same?

    • @Churchfront
      @Churchfront  Рік тому +6

      You mean why are they both ridiculously good looking?

    • @samgonza1975
      @samgonza1975 Рік тому

      Or is it, they look ridiculously good?
      Twilight zone…..

    • @zaimvideos
      @zaimvideos Рік тому

      @@Churchfront I'm looking at El Tigre and Magnum over here.

    • @Michael-le5ph
      @Michael-le5ph Рік тому +3

      It's a requirement for Churches today. It's all in the show. If you have the right lighting and sound then you have WORSHIP. Without it God is not there.

  • @TerenceKearns
    @TerenceKearns Рік тому

    Bro, that does not look "low budget" to me...

    • @Churchfront
      @Churchfront  11 місяців тому +1

      Compared to many other 2000+ member churches, this is definitely a low budget setup. Having an experienced and knowledgable TD like Kyle definitely helps make it all work and sound/look the best it possibly can with already existing equipment (note the handmade acoustic treatment and the 10+ year old x32 mixer).

    • @TerenceKearns
      @TerenceKearns 11 місяців тому

      @@Churchfront a church I volunteered at had maybe 300 people on any given day. They had a 32channel analog yamaha mixer. I showed the audio team how to mix through the 4 group busses so as to export virtual "stems" through an audio interface so could balance an alternative mix for the livestream feed via vmix. I have pictures. I ran it through Presonus Studio ONE for live mix monitoring and DSP then into vMix which was too clunky for audio. I used NDI vst plugin to send audio to vMix from studio one master channel. When I left, they ditched S1 and mixed audio stems with vMix. It worked alright but there was lots of improvements I didn't get a chance to make. we had 3 birddog PTZ cameras. I never liked the image quality that came out of them. Not good in low light. They would occasionally zoom/tilt randomly and suddenly frame stuttering started to happen one day and we could never solve it. For the same low budget, we could have had some blackmagic studio cams hooked up with SDI. That would have been good. I live more remotely now so I am churchless. Is what it is.

  • @milagrostephen4549
    @milagrostephen4549 Рік тому +1

    Who is paying attention

  • @alejocristancho
    @alejocristancho Рік тому +2

    Too much talking, not enough mixing

  • @Whoo_Boy
    @Whoo_Boy Рік тому

    The Grove church?? Yikes!!! Groves in the Bible are very, very sinful places.

  • @danielstartek1497
    @danielstartek1497 Рік тому +1

    Never mix worship! Worship should always be taken straight!