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Razer Viper V3 Pro Review | Large Medium, 55g, top specs, symmetrical gaming mouse
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- Razer have updated the Viper V2 to make it more like the Viper Mini, but still the V2 size. It has all the top specs you could ask for and they even kept the weight low. Great mouse, safe recommendation, but whether it actually suits you or not, that's another story.
As always, check the size guide and hand recommendations in the video.
Forgot to add the height in the video, it's 3.9cm, so pretty tall now (most large mice are about 4cm high). And there was the usual limbo jumps, where the wheel gets stuck between steps then jumps at an awkward time. In the spirit of fairness, it was about the same as the higher ranked Finalmouse mice. It's a common problem on a lot of mice in games that require the wheel to jump. Hopefully we, as a community, can find a solution some day.
00:00 Intro
00:36 Dimensions and Build
02:11 Size Comparison and Shape
02:44 Hand Size Guide
03:10 Cradled Buttons (Shape Cont.)
03:37 Materials
04:00 Button Sound Test
04:53 Software
05:42 Where does it rank?
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The hand size guide is actually quite helpful. The number of reviewers that don't mention their hand size at all is absurd.
It's actually the reason I got into reviews... realized I needed smaller mice than many others, so clearly mouse size and hand size matter. Was just saying the other day that with so many mouse reviewers now, we could cover a huge range of hand sizes and recommendations as a community, so yeah I hope they start doing it too. My estimates are basically just what I like but scaled up and down based on my hand size, then getting feedback from others.
@@RocketJumpNinja They never seem to do sadly, coming with huge hands 22x19.5 cm it's hard to find a mouse that fits comfortably in my hands as really small mice tend to cramp up. I am glad you are back into mice reviews again, thanks for the hard work!
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you squashing the beef and collabing with boardzy would be the greatest thing in mouse review history.
Glad to see you doing a new review! Much love Zy, as always - appreciate you.
Thanks for sticking around so many years, back at you!
Happy to see the OG king returns!
damnnnn brother is back
Also damn, this thing costs half a PS5 or half a mid range GPU 😅 (edited to make clearer)
@@HNedel what midrange gpu you getting for 159 us dollars
@@HNedel a 159 dollar mid range gpu, we back in the rx480 era now bois
@@monk_cs2 it showed in the video that the price is AU$279, a 4060 is $559 at Mwave. Or you sayin‘ this mouse has street price of $80 australian?
@@monk_cs2 an RTX 3050
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Will you do the Zowie U2? Nice to see another video from you.
I've been meaning to get one!
@@RocketJumpNinja Still miss those streams too.
Really helpful video, if possible I'd love a video for the V3 HyperSpeed. Cheers
Man make a new " how to get good" video. Amazing as usual
welcome back Legend
Heeeeyyy the Goat of Gaming Mice is Back!!
The razer gen 3 optical switches feel and sound the best of all mice atm they’re best in class and I’ll die on that hill and no that’s not a matter of taste you can even hear it directly in your video. Besides that I’m glad you are back.
i was wondering when this video would come out
Love this, now i can obsess over a mouse i'll buy in 2 years
This is the best mouse I've ever used hands down. Sensor, buttons, shape and weight aside, which are nearly perfect, it's the coating on the white model. My God this thing feels so good in the hand lol
It's great to see you back.
I got this used for $140 CAD in perfect condition since it was only used for a month. I have a 18x9.5 hand size with palm and relaxed claw grip (I switch grips unconsciously) and have been enjoying it so far. Though I wished the left and right click button height curves down slightly lower
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Was searching yesterday in vain for an RJN review on this mouse. Imagine my surprise when this popped up just now!
After my Viper V2 Pro is the third Razer Viper in two years with malfunctioning scroll wheel, I skipped the bulky V3 and went with the Zowie U2. This gives me comfort grip for my thumb like the Viper V2 and an excellent scroll wheel. Also lightweight and no ugly extra software needed.
Appreciate you! Got the Ninjutsu Sora 4K which is a perfect fit for my hand thanks to your website.. Really helpfull
Can you do a review for the GPX 2? It will be greatly appreciated
Ah finally a reviewer with good hand size recommendation
Love all your content, glad to see you doing stuff still. I loved my Viper V2, but it broke very quickly. Just like my Razer headset, and previous 2 Razer mice... I really like the ergonomics, but just wary of Razer products now
Waitin for VXE R1 Pro Budget mouse review...
Late to the party, but there he is🎉
Good review as always but I still can't get why a lot of people are obsessed with having a wireless mouse. After all it always sits on your desk and it doesn't matter if it has a cable or not. But when you go wireless you either need to charge it or replace batteries depending on what you bought. While on the other hand you plug in a wired mouse and forget about it. It just works whenever you need it. More reputable brands have great braided cables thay you never feel basically. Also wired mice tend to be lighter because they don't have batteries in them which is a big plus.
Good video as always. Personally, waiting for g309 review
I bought the og Viper Ultimate in large part because of your review and have enjoyed it all these years. Have been curious what your thoughts are on this. I really love the charging dock though which makes me hesitant to consider changing mice
Unless you're going pro or are super competitive to the point you want to win at all costs... then it's not actually worth upgrading then. Besides, you could probably just get a faster pad and make it feel like the mouse is lighter than it is anyway, because weight is the only important upgrade here, imo. That's part of why I lost interest, these mice aren't THAT different to warrant getting excited about. Same old, same old. Mice have been great for years.
@@RocketJumpNinja Thanks! I appreciate your insight as always. While I am sometimes a good amount competitive I am pretty happy with what I have. Might look into pads some more. I am on a basic older 15" cloth razer pad and a larger cheap pad I occasionally use, so there's room to explore. The feet on my ultimate are mostly worn out, might replace those too. The built in side grips are decently worn down but I don't mind.
Great to see a new vid!
I literally just ordered this mouse in white, noice.
Interesting. My analysis of the shape is not far from what you've said in this review, but I'm leaning more towards saying that this is a "G pro X'ified" Viper, in other words, a Viper without the huge flairs, and playing it safe. The moment you mentioned the thing with the scroll wheel, I immediately took my G Pro X, and was like: "This is exactly how the G Pro X has its scroll wheel". I can definitely see the Viper mini comparison though.
Yeah weird thing about the G Pro X wheel is that it feels well placed for where my fingers sit, but the Viper V3's doesn't, despite both being an index finger back or so. That's probably something to do with the hump being in the middle on the G Pro X though.
Viper V3 also has smaller dimensions than the V2, but feels bigger due to that hump size. It's not quite as simple as I originally thought.
I dont know, I should love this mouse, but I actually went back to my Endgamegear xm2we almost instantly, the viper v3 felt too large for me, so I felt like I couldnt control my aim quite as well as with a smaller mouse. I loved the clicks of the v3 though, but if I cant control my aim, its not worth it in my opinion, atleast for myself.
And again no side buttons for lefthanded. Last good left handed mouses are Viper, OG Superlight (I don't like it) and modern one that his one Pulsar X2A. I purchased Pulsar X2A to try it out and replace my 4th Viper Ultimate, and ofc to support company who still cares about left handed players. Razer back in the days even had freaking deathadder left handed edition. I spam razer instagram about it but no luck yet. Anyway Viper V3 Pro top tier mouse and Razer seems to know what their doing, for sure they are doing better than Steelseries and even Logitech.
Yeah real annoying I'm personally not buying a new viper because I'd have to switch my whole input layout, I assume it's a somewhat inconvenient way to make them lighter. Is the Pulsar X2a good?
@@jayhobspeedruns Havn't received it yet but internet says it's good mouse. Specification wise there is no better mouse than X2A if you want buttons on both sides, optical switches, top sensor, lightweight, 4k polling rate. I read on reddit about quality issues, but people are complaining about quality issues a lot on e.g. razer, logitech, I had their mouses and quality isn't worse than other gaming mouses so yeah I'm not so skeptical but we will see.
@@jayhobspeedruns Got it and I gotta say that it is really good. Not ten times better than viper ultimate (which is still good mouse) but certainly better. Quality is ok and the weight does big difference. Mouse skates seem better too. side buttons are in similar position like on viper so you can adapt easily. Shapewise it has more hump and feels something between Razer Abyssus and Viper for me. I got medium size and it's slighty smaller than Viper ult. So more of a claw grip, palm grip better on viper ult for me. Finish is more glossy and no rubber grip, but wasn't big of a problem for me. Only problem i noticed is that when you tilt the mouse it scrapes mousepad, viper doesn't do that.
@@AvantuPL thanks man I appreciate the info.
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Ive been loving the gwolves HTX despite me having big hands. I fingertip grip the mouse and the fact its under 40g really helps with micro adjustments.
That veing said this viper v3 really has my interest and i hope to find it on sale eventually. I play games with my mice on 2k hz polling rate as ive tested 4k and 8k and dont see a huge improvement.
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I bought this when it first came out. I love it one of my all time favorite mice. to me it’s a better super light 2 in every single way.
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Hey man I just came by to quickly thank you. I've been looking for a wireless mouse with a shape similar to the Mad Catz R.A.T. mice I've been using for the past 7 years. After searching for a long long time I finally came across your Xtrfy MZ1 Wireless and its general profile from back to front is literally identical! Its perfect!
One question tho. It might be a bit of a sin, so I'm sorry for asking, but because the back is easily replaceable, would it be an option to add a new back with the same shape but completely solid? The mouse is perfect but I'm hypersensitive to imperfections (I absolutely hate the thicker bit of fabric in socks near the toes) so I cant actually take mouse where I have to grab the holes.
Glad you like the mouse! As for no holes... you can print a new back if you're capable, the 3D file is on the Xtrfy website. But otherwise, we just have to hope they make a version 2 with their modern mouse styling. Still no word on that, unfortunately.
@@RocketJumpNinja Oh but thats actually perfect! Just downloaded the files. A friend of mine is very good at 3d printing so Ill ask help for that :)
Thats really nice that those models are up to download for everyone!
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Awesome mouse (and review) but that price is ludicrous!
Shape is everything. Im on the Vaxee NP-01 wireless and it bridges the gap between comfort and performance for me. I don't stress about the weight of 69 grams but i wouldn't mind them lowering it slightly in the future :D
The only review i care.
RJN posts new review, instant click. If this gets top marks then it must be worth considering for mid/large hands.
Any chance you're going to cover Sora V2? And perhaps ATK F1 Ultimate. Both sub 40g mice with Pulsar X2H Mini/Viper Mini style medium/small shape.
Hey Zy good to see you back. Can you do a comparison shot with older models when you have videos like these? Just to quickly show the size and details difference between the models. Razer often completely changes shapes but use the same model name.
Hey, thanks, I put the size comparison in with the previous Viper... which others did you want to see?
@@RocketJumpNinja I guess it depends on what you have on hands to show us. For example I still have the 1st gen Viper Ultimate but would like to see this new v3 pro compared to it and other like Viper mini. It's only because they are all "Viper", so someone like me who likes the shape of the Ultimate could maybe like other Vipers.
The issue is most companies are changing shapes within the same model names.
@@andresaliba Isn't the Viper V2 that I put in there exactly the same shell other than the side buttons on the right? I put the Viper Mini in there too. You saw the size picture right? But yeah I agree with you they shouldn't be changing the shape and keeping the names... although I get that the changes aren't that major so they probably didn't think they needed a new name yet.
Its high time the companies start thinking about size and shapes rather than just dpi and stuff.
Thanks for the review. Still too large for my grip so I'm still waiting for an actual Mini that doesn't have just an exoskeleton. Will keep using the MZ1 wireless Until there's an MZ2 or a Viper Mini V3, whichever is first.
looked into delux m800 ultra? runs about 60-70 usd and is basically a wireless viper mini
finally the buttons don't go all the way to the side like the v2
Please, press the mouse wheel button, when doing sound tests. I use it very often to "free look" in Tarkov and it's an instant return of a mouse, when the mouse wheel is too hard to press / is unreliable.
Could you review the Zowie U2? Should be a nice comparison to the Superlight 2 and the Viper V3 Pro
Working on it!
Great review! What mousepad are you using these days with the Viper V3 Pro or the Ulralight X?
I'm always using either the standard version of my pad (Xtrfy GPZ1) or the green screen version for the mouse cam.
Its really an ambi version of the DAv3 if you ask me ;) Mirror the right size to the left and bam very similar, great fit for me.
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rapoo vt1 sounds very promising
Thoughts on the Darmoshark M3 Micro? Apparently it's even smaller than the MZ1.
can you keep doing shotgun mouse reviews where you do a bunch of reviews at once, I just like looking at mouses on the mouse list
Are you able to review the ATK X1 ultra? The clone of Viper v3 pro
I like this mouse. It was an insane upgrade from wired ec1-b that I got back in like 2017. However, the sides flaring outwards at the front end of the mouse is just unnecessarily killing the design. Makes holding it kind of awkward.
I do like a mouse to have a mwheel pushed back a little. The Endgame Gear XM1 had a scroll that was way too far forward, it would be interesting to try a mouse like this one where it may be atypically far back.
Hey, have you ever thought about devising a way to test button press strength in grams or what ever is the norm for button pressing weight needed.
Yeah haven't really come across anything that will have good accuracy for it, so I figure it's better to just talk about experience for now.
confused - length measured here is 124mm, but on razer''s site dimension is Length: 127.1 mm / 5.00 in - why the difference ?
I know RJN jad reviewed the Lamzu Atlantis but I do think the Lamzu Maya and upcoming MayaX are worthy of the list
That scroll wheel placement looks like a deal breaker to me.
Looks nice! Is Synapse is still bad? This is the only thing why I don't want to buy Razer products.
bro i really want to review the deathadder v3 hyperspeed
CS player here looking for some advice. I've been using the g305 for the last 3 years and it has done it's job well in terms of basic performance, never felt like it has limited me despite the weight. However, I have noticed my thumb muscle cramps up whenever I use it for extended periods. Would I be correct in presuming that would an issue of the mouse being too thin for my hands/grip?
I used have a mouse called iball style36. The mouse is very low in quality but the size and shape and weight is too good. Better than most. Would love to send you the mice for you to check out the size and shape.❤
I bought the viper v2 pro, mouse wheel stopped working after 2 months , that's my only complaint
hope the v3 is different
It's just too damn expensive man 160 GBP is crazy...
do you think you'll do a review of the beast x mini?
can u pls review op18k thanks
I wish Steelseries would update the Aerox 3 wireless. No reason its still about 70grams while having holes. Its a great shape but feels so dense noawadays. I wish they made a 60gram version without the holes and lighting and added optical switches.
Zowie u2 review when? shape is different think you would like to test it
Just got one today, so testing now.
@@RocketJumpNinja awesome, currently using mine with pincer claw, zowie might be into something
Could you do a review of the DAREU A950 pro, it seems a good quality/price mouse
~19x9 hand here, Been using the viper v2 in claw/palm 131 grip, I wonder if the v3 hump could fill the gap in my palm?
We’re all waiting for the next mz1 Zy
Same tbh, hopefully Cherry Xtrfy want to do it!
@@RocketJumpNinja yeah, hopefully the new acquisition from Cherry will see things your way
@@RocketJumpNinja If they made a good refresh of it with identical shape, but ~50g weight, sub-1ms click latency, 4k/8k polling, larger glides etc, I can absolutely guarantee they would sell at least one!
don't buy the mouse yet
I noticed this on the desktop. Sometimes while I'm doing work and mousing around I'll notice my mouse will not move for a couple of millimeters. If you lift the mouse and set it down and slowly move left, sometimes the mouse will not move at all. I'm guessing this is some sort of lift off detection error happening? Anyone else notice this? To try it: Move your mouse as slow as you can, one pixel at a time.
dearch for Viper V3 Pro tracking issue, pixel skip, dead zone, pixel skipping on reddit
A newer released firmware apparently fixed that issue. Not confirmed but well worth checking out.
@@hinchlikescake7592 i will but my unit is currently at the repair shop 😂
been looking to buy something new.. gpro superlight finally started a horrible double clicking problem after 3 years of owning it.
This sensor is actually not flawless, at least according to some user reports. I think Razer is working on fixing the firmware, but my understanding is that users are complaining of sensor delays from initial movement and also when lifting and placing down the mouse. I think we have also seen this at major esports events, at least with earlier firmware versions. Given the price of the mouse, I'll be monitoring firmware updates before considering acquiring one.
Interesting, can't say I noticed while playing, although I'm getting back in practice again so might take me a while to get sensitivity to that kind of thing back. Apex Legends is useless when it comes to actually aiming, it makes me worse, so gotta start playing Quake a lot more again.
@@RocketJumpNinja Not all users are affected. It's a bit like sensor spin out or LOD issues. +1 on Quake, I always think of Quake as true aim, at least as far as FPS are concerned. Aim trainers are probably the purest form, just not as fun.
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what i hate the most is that this mouse does not come with an usb dongle for other cases like working or study just the hyperspeed dongle... omg
Are you going to review the zowie u2?
I miss QC clips :(
As much as I like razer mice, I still decided to use a Logitech one, just because of the software.
Wish I could try the mouse somewhere. I find most mice to be just alittle too small.
I honestly wouldn't mind Razer mice, but their scroll wheels without fail always crap out within 3 months for me.
@Rocket Jump Ninja
Hi, I've been a subscriber to your channel for many years
I wanted to ask you, wouldn't you like to sell me the Master Mouse from Cooler Master? It's off the market. It was a very unique version for me, with the position of the sensor very low. I love it. Do you give me its value?
I want a higher quality viper mini/cobra that arent like som niche concept mouse thats super expensive and only sell at a limited amount. Does it exist?
I disagree with your philosophy on Wheel placement. in particular, when gripping a mouse in fingertip grip it is actually beneficial to have the wheel farther back on the mouse. When I'm BHopping I prefer to have full range over the whole wheel,. Therefore if the wheel is too far forward, you can barely scroll backwards and have to rely solely on scrolling forwards.
Why wouldn't you have full control over the wheel if it's further forward?
Two words about Razer mice: Scroll Wheel.
It fails and glitchs way too soon.
Had Viper Ultimate and V2 Pro since it was heavily recommended by RJN. After a year of using the Viper Ultimate, the rubber on the side got pretty much destroyed so I had to RMA that. Got my money back and bought the slightly more expensive V2 Pro. After another year of using that the mouse wheel stopped working and I noticed a weird feeling with the switches so the clicking wasnt perfect. I RMAed this one too and got my money back. So I just decided to buy Ninjutso Sora 4K, which was also massively cheaper than Razer. Seems that this "no name" brand created something that Razer can only imagine of creating. Flawless mouse and even after a long time of using it every single day, nothing is seemingly feeling broken or starting to feel broken. Only downside is that the software is pretty bad. But then again Razer one is also nothing special.
I would suggest to not buy Razer and just get something else. Avoid this company.
Back in the day, Razer had hit and miss products... I had DeathAdders last year and years, whereas other mice of theirs just failed real fast. I thought they had improved the quality and done away with the rubber due to it wearing out... surprised to hear you still had issues on the V2, but good to have the feedback as I can't test these things long term.
Sora is great though, for sure. Although I have heard whispers of some issues there too. As always, nothing is perfect, just have to hope for the best.
@@RocketJumpNinja Every product has their faults. It all depends if they are big or negligible. Razer has pretty big problems that causes the mouse to stop working entirely in a way or two. Personally, I would not expect those sort of problems in a product thats highly overpriced like Razer.
What sort of problems does Sora have? So I can see if my mouse develops them later on.
@@Razzak18Cz Can't remember right now, I just read through comments here and there and get a "feel" for what the community is experiencing... that's why I said whispers, because they weren't strong opinions or anything, just potential problems. I gotta look into it more. Mine seem fine but then I barely use them because I'm always using a different mouse or my own. I'll put these issues in a video if I ever find them myself, or I'll try to help the companies fix them if they can be fixed.
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They need viper mini v3 pto
What mouse on the top rankings is the cheapest?
I'd say the smaller / newer brands? Pulsar, NInjutso, etc? Takes too long to check prices because they're priced differently all around the world and there are specials on mice too, so it's really up to you to find something local.