It's actually the reason I got into reviews... realized I needed smaller mice than many others, so clearly mouse size and hand size matter. Was just saying the other day that with so many mouse reviewers now, we could cover a huge range of hand sizes and recommendations as a community, so yeah I hope they start doing it too. My estimates are basically just what I like but scaled up and down based on my hand size, then getting feedback from others.
@@RocketJumpNinja They never seem to do sadly, coming with huge hands 22x19.5 cm it's hard to find a mouse that fits comfortably in my hands as really small mice tend to cramp up. I am glad you are back into mice reviews again, thanks for the hard work!
This is the best mouse I've ever used hands down. Sensor, buttons, shape and weight aside, which are nearly perfect, it's the coating on the white model. My God this thing feels so good in the hand lol
After my Viper V2 Pro is the third Razer Viper in two years with malfunctioning scroll wheel, I skipped the bulky V3 and went with the Zowie U2. This gives me comfort grip for my thumb like the Viper V2 and an excellent scroll wheel. Also lightweight and no ugly extra software needed.
Interesting. My analysis of the shape is not far from what you've said in this review, but I'm leaning more towards saying that this is a "G pro X'ified" Viper, in other words, a Viper without the huge flairs, and playing it safe. The moment you mentioned the thing with the scroll wheel, I immediately took my G Pro X, and was like: "This is exactly how the G Pro X has its scroll wheel". I can definitely see the Viper mini comparison though.
Yeah weird thing about the G Pro X wheel is that it feels well placed for where my fingers sit, but the Viper V3's doesn't, despite both being an index finger back or so. That's probably something to do with the hump being in the middle on the G Pro X though. Viper V3 also has smaller dimensions than the V2, but feels bigger due to that hump size. It's not quite as simple as I originally thought.
The razer gen 3 optical switches feel and sound the best of all mice atm they’re best in class and I’ll die on that hill and no that’s not a matter of taste you can even hear it directly in your video. Besides that I’m glad you are back.
this is the best case ever made... for me nothing even comes close! i had the lian li lancool 3, evo, antec performance, fractal torrent, north, corsair 5000 and its not even close! its so CLEAN!!! installed a buncha water cooled stuff in it and ive never been more proud to have my stuff in there. the panels are so solid! the fractal north saves its quality for looks only. the internal layout on this thing is second to none. this is my end game baby! Edit: youtube pushed my comment to this video... Yikes
@@RocketJumpNinja i blame iphone's youtube app. its always a little buggy. i love this mouse tho :) added grip tape to the right side and it helped a ton with my tiny hands. thanks for the vid!
I got this used for $140 CAD in perfect condition since it was only used for a month. I have a 18x9.5 hand size with palm and relaxed claw grip (I switch grips unconsciously) and have been enjoying it so far. Though I wished the left and right click button height curves down slightly lower
Love all your content, glad to see you doing stuff still. I loved my Viper V2, but it broke very quickly. Just like my Razer headset, and previous 2 Razer mice... I really like the ergonomics, but just wary of Razer products now
Ive been loving the gwolves HTX despite me having big hands. I fingertip grip the mouse and the fact its under 40g really helps with micro adjustments. That veing said this viper v3 really has my interest and i hope to find it on sale eventually. I play games with my mice on 2k hz polling rate as ive tested 4k and 8k and dont see a huge improvement.
I bought the og Viper Ultimate in large part because of your review and have enjoyed it all these years. Have been curious what your thoughts are on this. I really love the charging dock though which makes me hesitant to consider changing mice
Unless you're going pro or are super competitive to the point you want to win at all costs... then it's not actually worth upgrading then. Besides, you could probably just get a faster pad and make it feel like the mouse is lighter than it is anyway, because weight is the only important upgrade here, imo. That's part of why I lost interest, these mice aren't THAT different to warrant getting excited about. Same old, same old. Mice have been great for years.
@@RocketJumpNinja Thanks! I appreciate your insight as always. While I am sometimes a good amount competitive I am pretty happy with what I have. Might look into pads some more. I am on a basic older 15" cloth razer pad and a larger cheap pad I occasionally use, so there's room to explore. The feet on my ultimate are mostly worn out, might replace those too. The built in side grips are decently worn down but I don't mind.
Please, press the mouse wheel button, when doing sound tests. I use it very often to "free look" in Tarkov and it's an instant return of a mouse, when the mouse wheel is too hard to press / is unreliable.
I have a 22x12 hand, your website tells me i am out of luck when trying entering my size. Any recommendations for a cs 2 mouse? Seems i am a palmgripper aswell
I do like a mouse to have a mwheel pushed back a little. The Endgame Gear XM1 had a scroll that was way too far forward, it would be interesting to try a mouse like this one where it may be atypically far back.
I don’t know if I’m crazy or if it’s just the way I had to change my grip for this mouse but the sensor on the v3 pro feels better than my gpx 1. The clicks are noticeably faster at 240 fps.
And again no side buttons for lefthanded. Last good left handed mouses are Viper, OG Superlight (I don't like it) and modern one that his one Pulsar X2A. I purchased Pulsar X2A to try it out and replace my 4th Viper Ultimate, and ofc to support company who still cares about left handed players. Razer back in the days even had freaking deathadder left handed edition. I spam razer instagram about it but no luck yet. Anyway Viper V3 Pro top tier mouse and Razer seems to know what their doing, for sure they are doing better than Steelseries and even Logitech.
Yeah real annoying I'm personally not buying a new viper because I'd have to switch my whole input layout, I assume it's a somewhat inconvenient way to make them lighter. Is the Pulsar X2a good?
@@jayhobspeedruns Havn't received it yet but internet says it's good mouse. Specification wise there is no better mouse than X2A if you want buttons on both sides, optical switches, top sensor, lightweight, 4k polling rate. I read on reddit about quality issues, but people are complaining about quality issues a lot on e.g. razer, logitech, I had their mouses and quality isn't worse than other gaming mouses so yeah I'm not so skeptical but we will see.
@@jayhobspeedruns Got it and I gotta say that it is really good. Not ten times better than viper ultimate (which is still good mouse) but certainly better. Quality is ok and the weight does big difference. Mouse skates seem better too. side buttons are in similar position like on viper so you can adapt easily. Shapewise it has more hump and feels something between Razer Abyssus and Viper for me. I got medium size and it's slighty smaller than Viper ult. So more of a claw grip, palm grip better on viper ult for me. Finish is more glossy and no rubber grip, but wasn't big of a problem for me. Only problem i noticed is that when you tilt the mouse it scrapes mousepad, viper doesn't do that.
I like this mouse. It was an insane upgrade from wired ec1-b that I got back in like 2017. However, the sides flaring outwards at the front end of the mouse is just unnecessarily killing the design. Makes holding it kind of awkward.
I wish Steelseries would update the Aerox 3 wireless. No reason its still about 70grams while having holes. Its a great shape but feels so dense noawadays. I wish they made a 60gram version without the holes and lighting and added optical switches.
Thanks for the review. Still too large for my grip so I'm still waiting for an actual Mini that doesn't have just an exoskeleton. Will keep using the MZ1 wireless Until there's an MZ2 or a Viper Mini V3, whichever is first.
Hey man I just came by to quickly thank you. I've been looking for a wireless mouse with a shape similar to the Mad Catz R.A.T. mice I've been using for the past 7 years. After searching for a long long time I finally came across your Xtrfy MZ1 Wireless and its general profile from back to front is literally identical! Its perfect!
One question tho. It might be a bit of a sin, so I'm sorry for asking, but because the back is easily replaceable, would it be an option to add a new back with the same shape but completely solid? The mouse is perfect but I'm hypersensitive to imperfections (I absolutely hate the thicker bit of fabric in socks near the toes) so I cant actually take mouse where I have to grab the holes.
Glad you like the mouse! As for no holes... you can print a new back if you're capable, the 3D file is on the Xtrfy website. But otherwise, we just have to hope they make a version 2 with their modern mouse styling. Still no word on that, unfortunately.
@@RocketJumpNinja Oh but thats actually perfect! Just downloaded the files. A friend of mine is very good at 3d printing so Ill ask help for that :) Thats really nice that those models are up to download for everyone!
CS player here looking for some advice. I've been using the g305 for the last 3 years and it has done it's job well in terms of basic performance, never felt like it has limited me despite the weight. However, I have noticed my thumb muscle cramps up whenever I use it for extended periods. Would I be correct in presuming that would an issue of the mouse being too thin for my hands/grip?
Hey Zy good to see you back. Can you do a comparison shot with older models when you have videos like these? Just to quickly show the size and details difference between the models. Razer often completely changes shapes but use the same model name.
@@RocketJumpNinja I guess it depends on what you have on hands to show us. For example I still have the 1st gen Viper Ultimate but would like to see this new v3 pro compared to it and other like Viper mini. It's only because they are all "Viper", so someone like me who likes the shape of the Ultimate could maybe like other Vipers. The issue is most companies are changing shapes within the same model names.
@@andresaliba Isn't the Viper V2 that I put in there exactly the same shell other than the side buttons on the right? I put the Viper Mini in there too. You saw the size picture right? But yeah I agree with you they shouldn't be changing the shape and keeping the names... although I get that the changes aren't that major so they probably didn't think they needed a new name yet.
RJN posts new review, instant click. If this gets top marks then it must be worth considering for mid/large hands. Any chance you're going to cover Sora V2? And perhaps ATK F1 Ultimate. Both sub 40g mice with Pulsar X2H Mini/Viper Mini style medium/small shape.
Shape is everything. Im on the Vaxee NP-01 wireless and it bridges the gap between comfort and performance for me. I don't stress about the weight of 69 grams but i wouldn't mind them lowering it slightly in the future :D
Would you recommended this one for me? my hand measurement length 17.5 x 9.5 width. Palm style grip what I'm using and the mouse I have currently ROG Keris Wireless
I used have a mouse called iball style36. The mouse is very low in quality but the size and shape and weight is too good. Better than most. Would love to send you the mice for you to check out the size and shape.❤
@@RocketJumpNinja If they made a good refresh of it with identical shape, but ~50g weight, sub-1ms click latency, 4k/8k polling, larger glides etc, I can absolutely guarantee they would sell at least one!
I disagree with your philosophy on Wheel placement. in particular, when gripping a mouse in fingertip grip it is actually beneficial to have the wheel farther back on the mouse. When I'm BHopping I prefer to have full range over the whole wheel,. Therefore if the wheel is too far forward, you can barely scroll backwards and have to rely solely on scrolling forwards.
don't buy the mouse yet I noticed this on the desktop. Sometimes while I'm doing work and mousing around I'll notice my mouse will not move for a couple of millimeters. If you lift the mouse and set it down and slowly move left, sometimes the mouse will not move at all. I'm guessing this is some sort of lift off detection error happening? Anyone else notice this? To try it: Move your mouse as slow as you can, one pixel at a time. dearch for Viper V3 Pro tracking issue, pixel skip, dead zone, pixel skipping on reddit
I want a higher quality viper mini/cobra that arent like som niche concept mouse thats super expensive and only sell at a limited amount. Does it exist?
The hand size guide is actually quite helpful. The number of reviewers that don't mention their hand size at all is absurd.
It's actually the reason I got into reviews... realized I needed smaller mice than many others, so clearly mouse size and hand size matter. Was just saying the other day that with so many mouse reviewers now, we could cover a huge range of hand sizes and recommendations as a community, so yeah I hope they start doing it too. My estimates are basically just what I like but scaled up and down based on my hand size, then getting feedback from others.
@@RocketJumpNinja They never seem to do sadly, coming with huge hands 22x19.5 cm it's hard to find a mouse that fits comfortably in my hands as really small mice tend to cramp up. I am glad you are back into mice reviews again, thanks for the hard work!
He never left
Glad to see you doing a new review! Much love Zy, as always - appreciate you.
Thanks for sticking around so many years, back at you!
This is the best mouse I've ever used hands down. Sensor, buttons, shape and weight aside, which are nearly perfect, it's the coating on the white model. My God this thing feels so good in the hand lol
Happy to see the OG king returns!
damnnnn brother is back
Also damn, this thing costs half a PS5 or half a mid range GPU 😅 (edited to make clearer)
@@HNedel what midrange gpu you getting for 159 us dollars
@@HNedel a 159 dollar mid range gpu, we back in the rx480 era now bois
@@monk_cs2 it showed in the video that the price is AU$279, a 4060 is $559 at Mwave. Or you sayin‘ this mouse has street price of $80 australian?
@@monk_cs2 an RTX 3050
Man make a new " how to get good" video. Amazing as usual
you squashing the beef and collabing with boardzy would be the greatest thing in mouse review history.
Will you do the Zowie U2? Nice to see another video from you.
I've been meaning to get one!
@@RocketJumpNinja Still miss those streams too.
Thank god hes back
Love this, now i can obsess over a mouse i'll buy in 2 years
I literally just ordered this mouse in white, noice.
After my Viper V2 Pro is the third Razer Viper in two years with malfunctioning scroll wheel, I skipped the bulky V3 and went with the Zowie U2. This gives me comfort grip for my thumb like the Viper V2 and an excellent scroll wheel. Also lightweight and no ugly extra software needed.
Interesting. My analysis of the shape is not far from what you've said in this review, but I'm leaning more towards saying that this is a "G pro X'ified" Viper, in other words, a Viper without the huge flairs, and playing it safe. The moment you mentioned the thing with the scroll wheel, I immediately took my G Pro X, and was like: "This is exactly how the G Pro X has its scroll wheel". I can definitely see the Viper mini comparison though.
Yeah weird thing about the G Pro X wheel is that it feels well placed for where my fingers sit, but the Viper V3's doesn't, despite both being an index finger back or so. That's probably something to do with the hump being in the middle on the G Pro X though.
Viper V3 also has smaller dimensions than the V2, but feels bigger due to that hump size. It's not quite as simple as I originally thought.
The razer gen 3 optical switches feel and sound the best of all mice atm they’re best in class and I’ll die on that hill and no that’s not a matter of taste you can even hear it directly in your video. Besides that I’m glad you are back.
i was wondering when this video would come out
Was searching yesterday in vain for an RJN review on this mouse. Imagine my surprise when this popped up just now!
It's great to see you back.
My hero is back.
I really loved the viper mini shape. I would love to see a mini version of the viper v3 pro
Ah finally a reviewer with good hand size recommendation
this is the best case ever made... for me nothing even comes close! i had the lian li lancool 3, evo, antec performance, fractal torrent, north, corsair 5000 and its not even close! its so CLEAN!!! installed a buncha water cooled stuff in it and ive never been more proud to have my stuff in there. the panels are so solid! the fractal north saves its quality for looks only. the internal layout on this thing is second to none. this is my end game baby!
Edit: youtube pushed my comment to this video... Yikes
This is a Viper mouse review... did your comment somehow end up here rather than the case video you were watching?
...im sorry dude. UA-cam mobile did that thing where it didnt move the comment section to the video i was watching! Love your vids
@@p1st0ls44 haha all good, kinda guessed what happened because it clearly wasn't spam.
@@RocketJumpNinja i blame iphone's youtube app. its always a little buggy. i love this mouse tho :) added grip tape to the right side and it helped a ton with my tiny hands. thanks for the vid!
I got this used for $140 CAD in perfect condition since it was only used for a month. I have a 18x9.5 hand size with palm and relaxed claw grip (I switch grips unconsciously) and have been enjoying it so far. Though I wished the left and right click button height curves down slightly lower
I have almost the same hand size of you, you can hold the mouse good?
Because i owned a gpx and never feel comfortable for me
@@vanwishon Yes, I can hold the mouse very well and is comfortable. I prefer using this over the GPX. I never liked the GPX specially the sides.
@@aphae thanks for your feedback i'll try to buy mine
Appreciate you! Got the Ninjutsu Sora 4K which is a perfect fit for my hand thanks to your website.. Really helpfull
Love all your content, glad to see you doing stuff still. I loved my Viper V2, but it broke very quickly. Just like my Razer headset, and previous 2 Razer mice... I really like the ergonomics, but just wary of Razer products now
Ive been loving the gwolves HTX despite me having big hands. I fingertip grip the mouse and the fact its under 40g really helps with micro adjustments.
That veing said this viper v3 really has my interest and i hope to find it on sale eventually. I play games with my mice on 2k hz polling rate as ive tested 4k and 8k and dont see a huge improvement.
Great to see a new vid!
Really helpful video, if possible I'd love a video for the V3 HyperSpeed. Cheers
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Can you do a review for the GPX 2? It will be greatly appreciated
Waitin for VXE R1 Pro Budget mouse review...
I bought the og Viper Ultimate in large part because of your review and have enjoyed it all these years. Have been curious what your thoughts are on this. I really love the charging dock though which makes me hesitant to consider changing mice
Unless you're going pro or are super competitive to the point you want to win at all costs... then it's not actually worth upgrading then. Besides, you could probably just get a faster pad and make it feel like the mouse is lighter than it is anyway, because weight is the only important upgrade here, imo. That's part of why I lost interest, these mice aren't THAT different to warrant getting excited about. Same old, same old. Mice have been great for years.
@@RocketJumpNinja Thanks! I appreciate your insight as always. While I am sometimes a good amount competitive I am pretty happy with what I have. Might look into pads some more. I am on a basic older 15" cloth razer pad and a larger cheap pad I occasionally use, so there's room to explore. The feet on my ultimate are mostly worn out, might replace those too. The built in side grips are decently worn down but I don't mind.
Best mouse I ever had.
Late to the party, but there he is🎉
Good video as always. Personally, waiting for g309 review
Please, press the mouse wheel button, when doing sound tests. I use it very often to "free look" in Tarkov and it's an instant return of a mouse, when the mouse wheel is too hard to press / is unreliable.
I have a 22x12 hand, your website tells me i am out of luck when trying entering my size. Any recommendations for a cs 2 mouse? Seems i am a palmgripper aswell
I do like a mouse to have a mwheel pushed back a little. The Endgame Gear XM1 had a scroll that was way too far forward, it would be interesting to try a mouse like this one where it may be atypically far back.
I don’t know if I’m crazy or if it’s just the way I had to change my grip for this mouse but the sensor on the v3 pro feels better than my gpx 1. The clicks are noticeably faster at 240 fps.
Thoughts on the Darmoshark M3 Micro? Apparently it's even smaller than the MZ1.
Lets goo it's like you never left.
And again no side buttons for lefthanded. Last good left handed mouses are Viper, OG Superlight (I don't like it) and modern one that his one Pulsar X2A. I purchased Pulsar X2A to try it out and replace my 4th Viper Ultimate, and ofc to support company who still cares about left handed players. Razer back in the days even had freaking deathadder left handed edition. I spam razer instagram about it but no luck yet. Anyway Viper V3 Pro top tier mouse and Razer seems to know what their doing, for sure they are doing better than Steelseries and even Logitech.
Yeah real annoying I'm personally not buying a new viper because I'd have to switch my whole input layout, I assume it's a somewhat inconvenient way to make them lighter. Is the Pulsar X2a good?
@@jayhobspeedruns Havn't received it yet but internet says it's good mouse. Specification wise there is no better mouse than X2A if you want buttons on both sides, optical switches, top sensor, lightweight, 4k polling rate. I read on reddit about quality issues, but people are complaining about quality issues a lot on e.g. razer, logitech, I had their mouses and quality isn't worse than other gaming mouses so yeah I'm not so skeptical but we will see.
@@jayhobspeedruns Got it and I gotta say that it is really good. Not ten times better than viper ultimate (which is still good mouse) but certainly better. Quality is ok and the weight does big difference. Mouse skates seem better too. side buttons are in similar position like on viper so you can adapt easily. Shapewise it has more hump and feels something between Razer Abyssus and Viper for me. I got medium size and it's slighty smaller than Viper ult. So more of a claw grip, palm grip better on viper ult for me. Finish is more glossy and no rubber grip, but wasn't big of a problem for me. Only problem i noticed is that when you tilt the mouse it scrapes mousepad, viper doesn't do that.
@@AvantuPL thanks man I appreciate the info.
That's strange, on Eloshapes the mouse length is 12.7cm. That would make it as close to the size of the deathadder.
he measured it wrong, from back to front but in between buttons which reduced the length by a little
Its really an ambi version of the DAv3 if you ask me ;) Mirror the right size to the left and bam very similar, great fit for me.
I bought this when it first came out. I love it one of my all time favorite mice. to me it’s a better super light 2 in every single way.
is it ?
The only review i care.
can u pls review op18k thanks
Only downside for me the mwheel is squeaky when it rolls. My only option is to pop it open and add oil. But i’m holding off for now.
I like this mouse. It was an insane upgrade from wired ec1-b that I got back in like 2017. However, the sides flaring outwards at the front end of the mouse is just unnecessarily killing the design. Makes holding it kind of awkward.
I wish Steelseries would update the Aerox 3 wireless. No reason its still about 70grams while having holes. Its a great shape but feels so dense noawadays. I wish they made a 60gram version without the holes and lighting and added optical switches.
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I miss QC clips :(
Great review! What mousepad are you using these days with the Viper V3 Pro or the Ulralight X?
I'm always using either the standard version of my pad (Xtrfy GPZ1) or the green screen version for the mouse cam.
do you think you'll do a review of the beast x mini?
I'm thinking about getting this mouse as I heard the scroll wheel is durable, every mouse I've tried the scroll wheel breaks within months or a year
The goat is back
Thanks for the review. Still too large for my grip so I'm still waiting for an actual Mini that doesn't have just an exoskeleton. Will keep using the MZ1 wireless Until there's an MZ2 or a Viper Mini V3, whichever is first.
looked into delux m800 ultra? runs about 60-70 usd and is basically a wireless viper mini
Looks nice! Is Synapse is still bad? This is the only thing why I don't want to buy Razer products.
Hey man I just came by to quickly thank you. I've been looking for a wireless mouse with a shape similar to the Mad Catz R.A.T. mice I've been using for the past 7 years. After searching for a long long time I finally came across your Xtrfy MZ1 Wireless and its general profile from back to front is literally identical! Its perfect!
One question tho. It might be a bit of a sin, so I'm sorry for asking, but because the back is easily replaceable, would it be an option to add a new back with the same shape but completely solid? The mouse is perfect but I'm hypersensitive to imperfections (I absolutely hate the thicker bit of fabric in socks near the toes) so I cant actually take mouse where I have to grab the holes.
Glad you like the mouse! As for no holes... you can print a new back if you're capable, the 3D file is on the Xtrfy website. But otherwise, we just have to hope they make a version 2 with their modern mouse styling. Still no word on that, unfortunately.
@@RocketJumpNinja Oh but thats actually perfect! Just downloaded the files. A friend of mine is very good at 3d printing so Ill ask help for that :)
Thats really nice that those models are up to download for everyone!
Could you review the Zowie U2? Should be a nice comparison to the Superlight 2 and the Viper V3 Pro
Working on it!
CS player here looking for some advice. I've been using the g305 for the last 3 years and it has done it's job well in terms of basic performance, never felt like it has limited me despite the weight. However, I have noticed my thumb muscle cramps up whenever I use it for extended periods. Would I be correct in presuming that would an issue of the mouse being too thin for my hands/grip?
finally the buttons don't go all the way to the side like the v2
Awesome mouse (and review) but that price is ludicrous!
rapoo vt1 sounds very promising
Its high time the companies start thinking about size and shapes rather than just dpi and stuff.
bro i really want to review the deathadder v3 hyperspeed
I know RJN jad reviewed the Lamzu Atlantis but I do think the Lamzu Maya and upcoming MayaX are worthy of the list
Are you able to review the ATK X1 ultra? The clone of Viper v3 pro
Hey Zy good to see you back. Can you do a comparison shot with older models when you have videos like these? Just to quickly show the size and details difference between the models. Razer often completely changes shapes but use the same model name.
Hey, thanks, I put the size comparison in with the previous Viper... which others did you want to see?
@@RocketJumpNinja I guess it depends on what you have on hands to show us. For example I still have the 1st gen Viper Ultimate but would like to see this new v3 pro compared to it and other like Viper mini. It's only because they are all "Viper", so someone like me who likes the shape of the Ultimate could maybe like other Vipers.
The issue is most companies are changing shapes within the same model names.
@@andresaliba Isn't the Viper V2 that I put in there exactly the same shell other than the side buttons on the right? I put the Viper Mini in there too. You saw the size picture right? But yeah I agree with you they shouldn't be changing the shape and keeping the names... although I get that the changes aren't that major so they probably didn't think they needed a new name yet.
RJN posts new review, instant click. If this gets top marks then it must be worth considering for mid/large hands.
Any chance you're going to cover Sora V2? And perhaps ATK F1 Ultimate. Both sub 40g mice with Pulsar X2H Mini/Viper Mini style medium/small shape.
Are you going to review the zowie u2?
Shape is everything. Im on the Vaxee NP-01 wireless and it bridges the gap between comfort and performance for me. I don't stress about the weight of 69 grams but i wouldn't mind them lowering it slightly in the future :D
Hey, have you ever thought about devising a way to test button press strength in grams or what ever is the norm for button pressing weight needed.
Yeah haven't really come across anything that will have good accuracy for it, so I figure it's better to just talk about experience for now.
Would you recommended this one for me? my hand measurement length 17.5 x 9.5 width. Palm style grip what I'm using and the mouse I have currently ROG Keris Wireless
I bought the viper v2 pro, mouse wheel stopped working after 2 months , that's my only complaint
hope the v3 is different
on the last VIPER (8k) the click pressure point is a bit high for my liking on the Main buttons left right . They fixed this ?
I used have a mouse called iball style36. The mouse is very low in quality but the size and shape and weight is too good. Better than most. Would love to send you the mice for you to check out the size and shape.❤
i wish you would address how do the viper v3 hyperspeed and v3 pro differentiate
We’re all waiting for the next mz1 Zy
Same tbh, hopefully Cherry Xtrfy want to do it!
@@RocketJumpNinja yeah, hopefully the new acquisition from Cherry will see things your way
@@RocketJumpNinja If they made a good refresh of it with identical shape, but ~50g weight, sub-1ms click latency, 4k/8k polling, larger glides etc, I can absolutely guarantee they would sell at least one!
confused - length measured here is 124mm, but on razer''s site dimension is Length: 127.1 mm / 5.00 in - why the difference ?
can you keep doing shotgun mouse reviews where you do a bunch of reviews at once, I just like looking at mouses on the mouse list
been looking to buy something new.. gpro superlight finally started a horrible double clicking problem after 3 years of owning it.
~19x9 hand here, Been using the viper v2 in claw/palm 131 grip, I wonder if the v3 hump could fill the gap in my palm?
please, what could be a good mousepad for this mouse from Razer and not only - thank you
That scroll wheel placement looks like a deal breaker to me.
Could you do a review of the DAREU A950 pro, it seems a good quality/price mouse
I disagree with your philosophy on Wheel placement. in particular, when gripping a mouse in fingertip grip it is actually beneficial to have the wheel farther back on the mouse. When I'm BHopping I prefer to have full range over the whole wheel,. Therefore if the wheel is too far forward, you can barely scroll backwards and have to rely solely on scrolling forwards.
Why wouldn't you have full control over the wheel if it's further forward?
were baaackkk
Wish I could try the mouse somewhere. I find most mice to be just alittle too small.
don't buy the mouse yet
I noticed this on the desktop. Sometimes while I'm doing work and mousing around I'll notice my mouse will not move for a couple of millimeters. If you lift the mouse and set it down and slowly move left, sometimes the mouse will not move at all. I'm guessing this is some sort of lift off detection error happening? Anyone else notice this? To try it: Move your mouse as slow as you can, one pixel at a time.
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A newer released firmware apparently fixed that issue. Not confirmed but well worth checking out.
@@hinchlikescake7592 i will but my unit is currently at the repair shop 😂
I honestly wouldn't mind Razer mice, but their scroll wheels without fail always crap out within 3 months for me.
what i hate the most is that this mouse does not come with an usb dongle for other cases like working or study just the hyperspeed dongle... omg
Zowie u2 review when? shape is different think you would like to test it
Just got one today, so testing now.
@@RocketJumpNinja awesome, currently using mine with pincer claw, zowie might be into something
will u ever upload again on whyidefy?
Planning to! I've made videos for it but just haven't been happy with them... so yeah, not sure when, but haven't forgotten and do have plans.
As much as I like razer mice, I still decided to use a Logitech one, just because of the software.
I want a higher quality viper mini/cobra that arent like som niche concept mouse thats super expensive and only sell at a limited amount. Does it exist?