@@Defury8285 I mean, shape is subjective so no reviewer should completely disregard a mouse if they personally don't find the shape to be perfect for them. But the hardware and build quality are what can be objectively covered.
@@Defury8285Shape relative to weight, meaning Hyperspeed weighs 82g vs this weighing 55g, so the in hand feeling will differ, especially over hours of gaming. Don’t generalise and throw all the reviewers in one bucket. Consider the variables you choose to ignore
picked mine up today, and as a valorant player who relaxed claw grips, this mouse shape is absolutely perfect for me. no build quality issues and the clicks are surprisingly good, which feels nice after coming from a bad copy of the ULX. overall, flawless mouse IMO (so far) for my use case
This mouse is goated for relaxed and aggressive claw, my hands size is 18x10 and it’s perfect. The hump feels very comfortable, also a valorant player and reviewer here
@@ivailominkov9557 unsure if i am doing it right but on the larger side somewhere around 21x10.5. this mouse is by far the largest 'feeling' mouse ive ever used
I was honestly surprised with this mouse. Ive had dav3 faker, viper v2 pro, gpx 2, lamzu atlantis, pulsar x2 mini, ulx and the beastx mouse (older version) and out of all those I genuinly feel like this has been my favorite both from a comfort pov and performance wise. I absolutely love the coating of the white. Honestly i csnt see myself using the gpx2 again maybe for the fun of it.
i appreciate the honesty about the coating difference on the colors, a lot of people are making it seem like the white is so much better, and i also agree they could of introduced a new line of mice with this shape instead of replacing the viper shape, two different grip styles
My reliable Razer Viper was starting to fail me, so I bought a Viper V3 and I just couldn't get used to it. Because the shape wasn't as flat, it meant that my hands no longer fit it like the older models. I couldn't make the same micro adjustments because of the different palm size and weight in games that I usually make with my fingers. After playing for a while with the new shape too, the flatter edges and the raised height made my ring finger kind of sore. It's probably because my ring finger doesnt have a groove to settle in anymore :c I ended up returning it. I might have to search for a Viper Ultimate, V2 or just go for the Cobra. Sucks they're zoning out the old shape though.
yeah I've started to feel like the v3 pro kind of fits my hand better than the superlight, but, the bigger hump kind of makes my vertical recoil control in some games a little bit hard. but i really love it so far, might consider using it for quite a while and switch back to the superlight to see how it feels
compared to the gpx, would you say the v3 pro feels bigger? I'm especially sceptical about the front flaring out to the sides a lot and the mouse being 2mm longer
It's F'ing phenomenal. The clicks are superb, the shape is phenomenal and the sensor feeling is the best I've ever felt. I'm shocked at how good it is for me at least
I liked the wider flatter back of the old Deathadder and Viper. Kinda sad to see them move away from that. Its what made them unique and the only reason I main the Viper.
I swapped from Superlight 2 to Viper V3 Pro. I prefer Superlight shape but everything else I like V3 Pro better. It's crazy how high quality this mouse feels. Especially being a Razer product.
For me personally owned the VMSE really love the materials and weight but the size and shape is not my cup of tea, owned superlight before but never liked the software compared to razers (and the polling rate as well), so once i saw this and the new shape looked similar to superlight and the size as well, can’t wait to get this to my hand!
Used my black Viper v3 Pro for 6 weeks and I must say I think i'm finally done with Razer. Nothing is ever quite right. The last Razer mouse I truly enjoyed was the old Wired Razer Mamba tournament ED back in 2014 Viper ultimate was pretty good but too heavy and a little too flat profile for me. The death adder V3 pro was a stinker, the huge hump on one side was just terrible and made it want to turn anti clockwise in my hand all the time, feet were too small and not smooth, This Viper v3 pro has great ergonomics, great sensor great switches(L+R buttons a bit to light, I'm always firing my weapon my accident) The coating however is disgusting, It feels nice for around half hour to an hour but then gets all sticky and slimy, like I don't have really oily hands or sweat much, but the rubber coating just absorbs oil and it feels like its got jam all over it, gunky AF, and have to clean it and then wipe it down with alcohol wipes , Never had to do that with any mouse ever. The white version whilst less rubbery might not suit me either as people say that feels icky after a while. at 120hz of my display the difference between 1k and 8k polling is also non existent. £160 is too expensive to feel this nasty. Got a White Endgame XM2we Coming tomorrow, £75 has a dry matt coating, bit heavier switches, relatively light at 63g, Large feet, similar side buttons, Hopefully I will be happy with that.
I have the Viper v2 Pro and i used it for maybe 10 minutes before putting it away, been on DAV3PRO for above a year. First version in white was super chalky and one of the worst coatings ive ever used. Even with grip tape it didnt feel good, my current Faker edition has a lot better coating and is useable without griptape. One HUGE negative thing is that both of the copies ive had of the DAV3PRO has had insane body flex/creaking, but i do enjoy the shape. It seems Razer finally stepped up their game build-quality wise, but sadly not for the DAV3PRO. So wheter or not i would want to try the Viper V3 PRO.. i dont know.
Great review can't wait for mine to arrive. Will you do another IEM round up? I've been interested in the Intuaura Splendor since your review but they are on pre orders right now!
Compare to gpx superlight razer is not popular enough and the new product is just a clone shape of gpx with an enhancements . They want to share esport cake with logitech. I think so
I had a viper mini that died on me recently, now Im using my VGN F1 Moba untill i get a viper mini replacement. What would you suggest, i basically want a bigger (not too much tho) viper mini. Shpuld I get the ultimate (is it outdated), V2 Pro, V3 Pro or a logitech GP superlight 2?
my unit had major sensor stuttering, on 8k hz and 1khz. was using it on Hayate Otsu Wine Red xsoft, The viper v2 pro never had tracking issues. My main (ULX) never had those issues, as well as my other mice like LGG LA1, superlight, starlight, never had issues. very odd.
@@FreshReviewsYT i actually haven’t but i don’t think liftoff is the issue just because it’s like noticeable lag, not really stopping and starting like typical liftoff distance but just genuine stuttering and delay. in kovaaks, it was especially apparent in never miss scenarios, like it would skip multiple frames or rapidly cycle through them. i also don’t lift my mouse up a lot when playing. i think it might have to do with power saving settings tbh . the delay feels like when you initially turn a mouse on from a power saving mode and it takes a second to kick in.
I like my X2H and this looks way to big for my wife's hands. Nice review...I like the peace sign at the end fyi. Check out the Dt 990 600 ohm with the mass dampening kit from Custom Cans in the UK. They sound amazing with the DX9 imo. Oh gotta do the bal conversion too, but so worth it. I added Dakoni elite fenestrated sheepskin pads as well. 😎
can you check if your mouse scroll moves left and right side when you push it? like it wobbles a little but not to the point that it makes wobbling sound when you shake it.
Hey Fresh recently my eartips have been hurting my inner ear and causing jaw fatigue. I've tried the Medium and Small CP145 and recently the CP155 which just killed me. Are there any memory foam tips you'd recommend or another brand to look into that sells all 3 sizes so I know which is better for me? For the Xenns Mangird Top btw. Thanks in advance!
Sora may be the wave. I find mice with side walls and deep grooves on the main triggers to be very unappealing for 1-3-1 as i have to bunch up my fingers.
SplendorII spotted! Bought Canon 2 for COD based on your recommendation and I really love it. The sound stage is very impressive, and it's very close to the HD490 imo. However, I am also really curious if I should get the SplendorII to try it out as well. Is it better than Canon 2?
@@FreshReviewsYT appreciate the response, almost impulse buy the splendorII :) Not really a bass head, so I had to switch off the bass gain on canon 2, given splendorII has even more bass, maybe not for me.
have you ever heard about the iems called ND-DD3 they have these 3 physical slider that allows you pick pick what curve you want from 3 pre programmed curve i wonder if its any good in games
I like wrapping my ring finger on the edge-corner of the superlight, how does the edge of the viper v3 mouse feel? The DAV3 I couldn't use it because of the sharper edges, is it the same for this mouse?
@@FreshReviewsYT Finally caved to my mouse addiction and bought it. I thought the edge would be an issue like DAV3 but its not at all. Loving this mouse more than the GPX2
Nice! Other reviewers says coating on the white viper v3 pro feels rubberized and sticky like on the Kone pure ultra and they prefer it! Razer has confirmed there are UV protecting additives in the white version's coating to prevent yellowing which might be why it feels so good compared to the black ones! To be honest , everyone also said they can feel a difference in the sensor compared to DAV3 Pro 3950 Focus gen1 sensor. Are you playing CS2 at all?As that's where you can feel the tracking difference and the End of movement sensor delay 5.0ms on the DAv3 pro even at 8k hz.
You’ll notice zero difference in your gameplay going from one sensor to the other. Zero. Also, the additives in the white are what make it feel unnatural. I prefer the black
@@FreshReviewsYT Got you brother , soon to find out as I have ordered one viper v3 pro and one beast x max .. and already have dav3 pro and gpx 1 .. would go with the Finalmouse Ultralight X honestly but the QC issues is so disturbing!!! I have posted your review on my socials,thanks again for your work!
ua-cam.com/video/lQCuJuB4-No/v-deo.html he also says the input delay of the sensor is much better than dav3 pro .. And then you say zero difference .. Idk man , I'll let u know what I think tomorrow when I get the viper.
@@FreshReviewsYT Brother , just wanted to say - if you can't feel the sensor difference between Viper v3 pro and Dav3 pro (3950hs vs 3970) you gotta be playing eyes closed mate seriously lol and the white coating absolutely rocks!Best I've ever felt after almost every FPS approved mice you can think of for over 15 years. Just my 2 cents and you can see cs2 pros mostly using the white one for a reason even tho it's 1g heavier but you don't need tape grips:) Obviously, it's all about what feels best in your hand! Black is super smooth tho. Cheers!
totally get how youre feeling about the viper v2. its shape is what differentiated from the gpx. now the v3 is sort of a more contoured version of the gpx.... razer makes these weird decisions. that being said i'm sure the push back from viper v2 lovers could have been thwarted had they just released an updated 8k version of the v2 and just called this something like the "viper ergo" idk
They could have done something like pulsar and called it the viper H or something lol. Kind of like the x2h and x2v2. Doesn’t sound quite as good but I’m sure they could have done up with something
i bought v3 black but its so hot and sweaty compared to v2 black. Should i consider switch to v3 white ? And why v3 is generating so much heat suddenly
hi ! i been using the g pro superlight for years now and ive had maybe 5 or 6 of them because the left sidebutton keeps going inside the mouse so something inside breaks and i hate it. i love the mouse but i think i spam the left sidebutton too hard, do u think the viper v3 would be a better option ?
So they did mention they spent time with 100s of Pro Players on deciding for shape and stuff... I assume this is what most people voted for in terms of "professional performance" and all that jazz
They've addressed the main complaints : uncomfortable front flares and flatness. Same with the Dav3, people complained about that front ridge on the OG DA for the longest and the hump was pushed too forward. Guess they're trying to go a bit more mainstream? I haven't really seen anyone use (Pros) VV2 or DaV2 outside the initial playtests to generate hype for the brand. They want slice of the pie Logitech and Zowie EC are sharing. I know the DA was their best selling mouse once upon a time but back then there were no mice so, yeah.
@@FreshReviewsYT I mean...yeah but they likely have better data as of what sells/ would sell better in todays market than we do. Many were glazing the VV2 Pro for example and no one mained it past the review period. And the og DA was just a remnant.
I just was planning to get the Superlight 2 until this came out I've never bought a mouse for gaming purposes, so I don't have any reference at all, afaik both them have the same price tag, so what do you recommend for me Fresh?
@@FreshReviewsYT I am beginner to fps , my hand size is (19x10 cm) I have doubt on V3 PRO size how is V3 Pro compared to GPX 2 for valorant or say about both pros & cons
great review man, got my copy this morning and love it but my M5 doesn't click, it registers the use of it but doesn't actually click in or out. Seems like a few people on twitter and Razer discord are having some click issues with M1 and M2 as well.
I think Razer Viper V3 Pro is a direct FU to Logitech's GPX. Blantly coping their shape as they have done in the past. Razer hopes to gain Logitech market share. Especially, GPX 2 was a total let down.
Got mine today the clicks aren’t good imo. Too hard. Pre travel pretty high on my unit and post travel. Might return this and try the zowie u2. The shape is better then the v2 tho
I don't get the glazing for this. for 100$ less you get the exact same mouse but 12g heavier with better clicks in the v3 hyperspeed. The U2 is a much better mouse imo unless you cAnT PlAY WitHoUGhT 4k/8k placebo person.
Hi fresh. Amazing review as always. some offtop question what would u prefer on raiden xsoft jade or tiger ice dots ? Im about ask this question on stream but cant catch u online.
@@FreshReviewsYT thanks alot. i just enjoy dots alot. like u can put 2-3 on each side. i guess ill try jade because i stuck with tiger ice for 3+ years
@@FreshReviewsYT haha I only recently bought a wired version and saw it's no longer in your rankings.. I try and buy things that align to your ranks hahaha
I keep going back and forth. The viper’s build quality is definitely better, no doubt. The wight difference is noticeable. The shapes are just different enough that I wouldn’t say one is “better” than the other. Just different. Long term though I trust razer more lol
During the BQ segment my scarlet solo pretty much died, apologies
What we need is an Orochi V3
What is the highest polling rate you can get working in Apex Legends?
I respect the depth you go into on all the products you review, makes imagining the product very easy.
I can’t wait to get my hands on both the new V3 and the Beast X newest version! Thanks Fresh
The glazing for the V3p is real, thanks for the review Freshy
Especially when all reviewers disliked the v3 hyperspeed shape and now they're all glazing this when it's the exact same shape 🤣
@@Defury8285 ye its ridiculous, noticed the exact same thing
@@Defury8285 I mean, shape is subjective so no reviewer should completely disregard a mouse if they personally don't find the shape to be perfect for them. But the hardware and build quality are what can be objectively covered.
@@Defury8285Shape relative to weight, meaning Hyperspeed weighs 82g vs this weighing 55g, so the in hand feeling will differ, especially over hours of gaming. Don’t generalise and throw all the reviewers in one bucket. Consider the variables you choose to ignore
@@tyl3rb-fw6eea hyperspeed with AAA lithium is 68g, that's less than a Vaxee mouse. Anyone buying a 180$ mouse can buy lithium AAA for 8$
Probably gonna pick this one up, still on my og superlight so this would be a serious upgrade. Thanks for the wonderful review fresh!
Ty! Enjoy
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picked mine up today, and as a valorant player who relaxed claw grips, this mouse shape is absolutely perfect for me. no build quality issues and the clicks are surprisingly good, which feels nice after coming from a bad copy of the ULX. overall, flawless mouse IMO (so far) for my use case
Curious, what is your hand's size ?
This mouse is goated for relaxed and aggressive claw, my hands size is 18x10 and it’s perfect. The hump feels very comfortable, also a valorant player and reviewer here
@@ivailominkov9557 unsure if i am doing it right but on the larger side somewhere around 21x10.5. this mouse is by far the largest 'feeling' mouse ive ever used
@@UserFlyn to me it truly feels like if the gpx was built for claw grip
@@ivailominkov9557 21x10.5 i believe
I've been wondering what the difference was between the two coatings and you cleared it up! Great review as always, Fresh! Thank you
Fresh! Haven't tuned in for a while now, but man your voice is always nice to hear again. Thanks for continuing your content, I always appreciate it!
Welcome back!
watching this while unboxing my new v3 pro
Haha
I was honestly surprised with this mouse. Ive had dav3 faker, viper v2 pro, gpx 2, lamzu atlantis, pulsar x2 mini, ulx and the beastx mouse (older version) and out of all those I genuinly feel like this has been my favorite both from a comfort pov and performance wise. I absolutely love the coating of the white. Honestly i csnt see myself using the gpx2 again maybe for the fun of it.
That’s great!
I miss the Mamba shape. It was perfect for my hand and the last refresh was the Mamba Elite with a flawed sensor. 😢
Anyone else got viper v3 pro and it doesnt show up in synapse? It says in development for new synapse and regular synapse is empty as well.
Use old synapse and force update when mouse is connected to the PC
Did you plug the mouse directly into your PC using the cable? I had to do this before using the wireless dongle.
@@MylesMurphy yea i reinstalled old synapse today and it worked. No idea why that didnt work yesterday lol
Just problems with first batches some people get rly confused but it's not that important
i appreciate the honesty about the coating difference on the colors, a lot of people are making it seem like the white is so much better, and i also agree they could of introduced a new line of mice with this shape instead of replacing the viper shape, two different grip styles
DAV3 has the old Razer Mamba shape ... idk why they switched the name. Check eloshapes. I wish I could post pictures here.
My reliable Razer Viper was starting to fail me, so I bought a Viper V3 and I just couldn't get used to it. Because the shape wasn't as flat, it meant that my hands no longer fit it like the older models. I couldn't make the same micro adjustments because of the different palm size and weight in games that I usually make with my fingers.
After playing for a while with the new shape too, the flatter edges and the raised height made my ring finger kind of sore. It's probably because my ring finger doesnt have a groove to settle in anymore :c
I ended up returning it. I might have to search for a Viper Ultimate, V2 or just go for the Cobra. Sucks they're zoning out the old shape though.
im someone that fell out of love with the v2 pro shape and gradually went back to a superlight. I might try this one out
yeah I've started to feel like the v3 pro kind of fits my hand better than the superlight, but, the bigger hump kind of makes my vertical recoil control in some games a little bit hard. but i really love it so far, might consider using it for quite a while and switch back to the superlight to see how it feels
I had that issue also when swiping down in particular
compared to the gpx, would you say the v3 pro feels bigger? I'm especially sceptical about the front flaring out to the sides a lot and the mouse being 2mm longer
the v3pro still uses the same gen 3 opticals as the v2pro just a different click retaining system
Oh. Sorry I thought I read they were new. That’s great to hear though.
I've been using the Hyperspeed version since release. Best coating and build quality!
I would buy hyperspeed over v3, because I already have the 4k dongle. As someone who doesn’t own any, I would buy a v2 knowing they will go on sale
Interesting pov on the coating - white seems to work super well for me, better than the v3 hyperspeed! Great review 👍
Thanks!
It's F'ing phenomenal. The clicks are superb, the shape is phenomenal and the sensor feeling is the best I've ever felt. I'm shocked at how good it is for me at least
Yea it’s great!
As a relaxed claw user, I much prefer the Viper V3 shape over the V2. I think Razer really nailed the V3 Hyperspeed and V3 Pro.
that's exactly how I felt about the two coatings.
I love the coating on the white
I figured a ton of people would. It’s a good coating.
I liked the wider flatter back of the old Deathadder and Viper. Kinda sad to see them move away from that. Its what made them unique and the only reason I main the Viper.
I swapped from Superlight 2 to Viper V3 Pro. I prefer Superlight shape but everything else I like V3 Pro better. It's crazy how high quality this mouse feels. Especially being a Razer product.
For me personally owned the VMSE really love the materials and weight but the size and shape is not my cup of tea, owned superlight before but never liked the software compared to razers (and the polling rate as well), so once i saw this and the new shape looked similar to superlight and the size as well, can’t wait to get this to my hand!
Went white based on what I've seen and man, the white is so good. Interesting to see different takes on this.
Used my black Viper v3 Pro for 6 weeks and I must say I think i'm finally done with Razer. Nothing is ever quite right.
The last Razer mouse I truly enjoyed was the old Wired Razer Mamba tournament ED back in 2014 Viper ultimate was pretty good but too heavy and a little too flat profile for me.
The death adder V3 pro was a stinker, the huge hump on one side was just terrible and made it want to turn anti clockwise in my hand all the time, feet were too small and not smooth,
This Viper v3 pro has great ergonomics, great sensor great switches(L+R buttons a bit to light, I'm always firing my weapon my accident) The coating however is disgusting, It feels nice for around half hour to an hour but then gets all sticky and slimy, like I don't have really oily hands or sweat much, but the rubber coating just absorbs oil and it feels like its got jam all over it, gunky AF, and have to clean it and then wipe it down with alcohol wipes ,
Never had to do that with any mouse ever. The white version whilst less rubbery might not suit me either as people say that feels icky after a while.
at 120hz of my display the difference between 1k and 8k polling is also non existent.
£160 is too expensive to feel this nasty.
Got a White Endgame XM2we Coming tomorrow, £75 has a dry matt coating, bit heavier switches, relatively light at 63g, Large feet, similar side buttons,
Hopefully I will be happy with that.
I have the Viper v2 Pro and i used it for maybe 10 minutes before putting it away, been on DAV3PRO for above a year. First version in white was super chalky and one of the worst coatings ive ever used. Even with grip tape it didnt feel good, my current Faker edition has a lot better coating and is useable without griptape. One HUGE negative thing is that both of the copies ive had of the DAV3PRO has had insane body flex/creaking, but i do enjoy the shape. It seems Razer finally stepped up their game build-quality wise, but sadly not for the DAV3PRO. So wheter or not i would want to try the Viper V3 PRO.. i dont know.
Great review can't wait for mine to arrive. Will you do another IEM round up? I've been interested in the Intuaura Splendor since your review but they are on pre orders right now!
Yes, soon!
Using the Viper V3 Pro with the Esptiger Chengying. 10/10 combo 🔥
Razer atlas + viper v3pro best combo!
Good choice!
Looking for something to replace my viper mini SE so i can ditch razer for good, but i love the shape too much
Compare to gpx superlight razer is not popular enough and the new product is just a clone shape of gpx with an enhancements . They want to share esport cake with logitech. I think so
It'd be a shame if the OG viper shape is dead
Bro right? Wasn't my best mouse but i liked it
I had a viper mini that died on me recently, now Im using my VGN F1 Moba untill i get a viper mini replacement. What would you suggest, i basically want a bigger (not too much tho) viper mini. Shpuld I get the ultimate (is it outdated), V2 Pro, V3 Pro or a logitech GP superlight 2?
been using a beast x (medium). picked up a vv3p in white, yeah sticky! cant wait for my beast x max.
my unit had major sensor stuttering, on 8k hz and 1khz. was using it on Hayate Otsu Wine Red xsoft, The viper v2 pro never had tracking issues. My main (ULX) never had those issues, as well as my other mice like LGG LA1, superlight, starlight, never had issues. very odd.
Damn! Have you tried playing with lift off
@@FreshReviewsYT i actually haven’t but i don’t think liftoff is the issue just because it’s like noticeable lag, not really stopping and starting like typical liftoff distance but just genuine stuttering and delay. in kovaaks, it was especially apparent in never miss scenarios, like it would skip multiple frames or rapidly cycle through them. i also don’t lift my mouse up a lot when playing. i think it might have to do with power saving settings tbh . the delay feels like when you initially turn a mouse on from a power saving mode and it takes a second to kick in.
man new vid and I even have tacos let‘s gooo
Tacos ftw!!!!
On my copy the left and right buttons feels kinda weird- it’s like heavy - mushy and crisp at the same time. Anyone with that problem ?
I've seen other people saying this too for me it's fine I think it's BC of the first batches but no one knows... 🤔
I like my X2H and this looks way to big for my wife's hands. Nice review...I like the peace sign at the end fyi. Check out the Dt 990 600 ohm with the mass dampening kit from Custom Cans in the UK. They sound amazing with the DX9 imo. Oh gotta do the bal conversion too, but so worth it. I added Dakoni elite fenestrated sheepskin pads as well. 😎
can you check if your mouse scroll moves left and right side when you push it? like it wobbles a little but not to the point that it makes wobbling sound when you shake it.
nice videoooo mate ❤
Ty!
Hey Fresh recently my eartips have been hurting my inner ear and causing jaw fatigue. I've tried the Medium and Small CP145 and recently the CP155 which just killed me.
Are there any memory foam tips you'd recommend or another brand to look into that sells all 3 sizes so I know which is better for me? For the Xenns Mangird Top btw. Thanks in advance!
Could try comply ear tips or dekoni
they should have called this the cobra and just dump the cobra all together lol
damn fresh i see the cyberboard very nice man
What about the coating?? I had the white DAV3 and its coating was trash it made me nervous about razer’s mice 😥
Coatings are good
Do you know when a new design is released for glsswrks ?
i was thinking of getting either this or sora v2, which one do you think is good? i play 131 grip, mostly apex
Super tough to say. If you kinda like the gpx I’d try this
Sora may be the wave. I find mice with side walls and deep grooves on the main triggers to be very unappealing for 1-3-1 as i have to bunch up my fingers.
Is there new glass mouse pad In the coming period ?
Glssworks will have more design s
As a fingertip grip viper v2 pro user im bummed but if they somehow make a viper v3 pro mini id probably get that
Smooth touch coating is amazing. Only coating I prefer is the xm1r.
SplendorII spotted! Bought Canon 2 for COD based on your recommendation and I really love it. The sound stage is very impressive, and it's very close to the HD490 imo. However, I am also really curious if I should get the SplendorII to try it out as well. Is it better than Canon 2?
No! They’re too close! I’d stick with the canon. They’re both super close.
@@FreshReviewsYT appreciate the response, almost impulse buy the splendorII :) Not really a bass head, so I had to switch off the bass gain on canon 2, given splendorII has even more bass, maybe not for me.
have you ever heard about the iems called ND-DD3
they have these 3 physical slider that allows you pick pick what curve you want from 3 pre programmed curve
i wonder if its any good in games
Haven’t yet
nd dd3 is not good buy kz krila or kz zvx for gaming
I saw on Linsoul your collab , ziigaat arete, congrats man👍 wish you the best
Tysm!!!
Hi, if you ever used the SE - how does the viper v3 pro compare to the viper mini signature edition? For FPS ofc and excluding the price difference.
Very different. The mini will feel flat. Thin and smaller
I loved the Viper ult rn I’m a ULX cheeta do you think it would be worth to switch? Like I looooveed the viper ult I used it for 2 years
It’s worth a try. It’s a good mouse
Razer Viper V3 Pro or Razer Deathadder V3 Pro? I can't decide at all. 19.5cm x 10.2cm hand. Claw grip variation.
If you’re claw gripping, the viper.
@@FreshReviewsYT I thought Deathadder was better for claw because of the hump? Sorry just a bit confused
I like wrapping my ring finger on the edge-corner of the superlight, how does the edge of the viper v3 mouse feel? The DAV3 I couldn't use it because of the sharper edges, is it the same for this mouse?
It’s a more pointed edge
@@FreshReviewsYT Finally caved to my mouse addiction and bought it. I thought the edge would be an issue like DAV3 but its not at all. Loving this mouse more than the GPX2
Nice! Other reviewers says coating on the white viper v3 pro feels rubberized and sticky like on the Kone pure ultra and they prefer it! Razer has confirmed there are UV protecting additives in the white version's coating to prevent yellowing which might be why it feels so good compared to the black ones! To be honest , everyone also said they can feel a difference in the sensor compared to DAV3 Pro 3950 Focus gen1 sensor. Are you playing CS2 at all?As that's where you can feel the tracking difference and the End of movement sensor delay 5.0ms on the DAv3 pro even at 8k hz.
You’ll notice zero difference in your gameplay going from one sensor to the other. Zero. Also, the additives in the white are what make it feel unnatural. I prefer the black
@@FreshReviewsYT Got you brother , soon to find out as I have ordered one viper v3 pro and one beast x max .. and already have dav3 pro and gpx 1 .. would go with the Finalmouse Ultralight X honestly but the QC issues is so disturbing!!! I have posted your review on my socials,thanks again for your work!
ua-cam.com/video/lQCuJuB4-No/v-deo.html he also says the input delay of the sensor is much better than dav3 pro .. And then you say zero difference .. Idk man , I'll let u know what I think tomorrow when I get the viper.
@@FreshReviewsYT Brother , just wanted to say - if you can't feel the sensor difference between Viper v3 pro and Dav3 pro (3950hs vs 3970) you gotta be playing eyes closed mate seriously lol and the white coating absolutely rocks!Best I've ever felt after almost every FPS approved mice you can think of for over 15 years. Just my 2 cents and you can see cs2 pros mostly using the white one for a reason even tho it's 1g heavier but you don't need tape grips:) Obviously, it's all about what feels best in your hand! Black is super smooth tho. Cheers!
Any changes to the scroll wheel? Will it crap itself after like 6 months? Both of v2 pros did that to me.
It seems ok so far
totally get how youre feeling about the viper v2. its shape is what differentiated from the gpx. now the v3 is sort of a more contoured version of the gpx.... razer makes these weird decisions. that being said i'm sure the push back from viper v2 lovers could have been thwarted had they just released an updated 8k version of the v2 and just called this something like the "viper ergo" idk
They could have done something like pulsar and called it the viper H or something lol. Kind of like the x2h and x2v2. Doesn’t sound quite as good but I’m sure they could have done up with something
Do you use any sort of spatial audio solution with your headphones? I personally use atmos and can't play any game with surround output without it.
I don’t
i bought v3 black but its so hot and sweaty compared to v2 black.
Should i consider switch to v3 white ?
And why v3 is generating so much heat suddenly
I don’t know what you mean as I don’t have that issue. I would try the white.
hi ! i been using the g pro superlight for years now and ive had maybe 5 or 6 of them because the left sidebutton keeps going inside the mouse so something inside breaks and i hate it. i love the mouse but i think i spam the left sidebutton too hard, do u think the viper v3 would be a better option ?
Probably yea. It’s a different shape as a result of the hump and where it hits but it’s worth a try. It’s in the same size bracket
So they did mention they spent time with 100s of Pro Players on deciding for shape and stuff... I assume this is what most people voted for in terms of "professional performance" and all that jazz
Does the coating of the white edition getting yellow after using it for months?
Not sure! I ended up getting rid of mine.
Maybe similar to a X2 medium feeling? 🤔
Quite different. X2 thinner and smaller.
They've addressed the main complaints : uncomfortable front flares and flatness. Same with the Dav3, people complained about that front ridge on the OG DA for the longest and the hump was pushed too forward. Guess they're trying to go a bit more mainstream? I haven't really seen anyone use (Pros) VV2 or DaV2 outside the initial playtests to generate hype for the brand. They want slice of the pie Logitech and Zowie EC are sharing. I know the DA was their best selling mouse once upon a time but back then there were no mice so, yeah.
Two of their top selling mice and the address the complaints of the vocal minority.
@@FreshReviewsYT I mean...yeah but they likely have better data as of what sells/ would sell better in todays market than we do. Many were glazing the VV2 Pro for example and no one mained it past the review period. And the og DA was just a remnant.
What are those two mice on the far right? Custom GPXs?
I just was planning to get the Superlight 2 until this came out
I've never bought a mouse for gaming purposes, so I don't have any reference at all, afaik both them have the same price tag, so what do you recommend for me Fresh?
Both great.
Although the shape of the viper changed. I like it a little better when it comes to control. Personal opinion ofc
bro you havent said anything about your upcoming ziigat colab.
🙌🏽
Dt 1990 pro vs Sennheiser hd 490 pro - which has wider soundstage/sounds more open and has better imaging ?
For gaming I prefer the 490. With the cloth cups the stage might be a bit comparable but going off memory the stage might be a bit larger on the 1990
@@FreshReviewsYT thanks and compared to the 900x ?
I like both GPX 2 and V3 PRO but confused to buy i am new to fps gaming
which is best for competitive Fps and future proof
Whichever shape you prefer. Both are just as good
@@FreshReviewsYT I am beginner to fps , my hand size is (19x10 cm)
I have doubt on V3 PRO size how is V3 Pro compared to GPX 2 for valorant or say about both pros & cons
@@rexzo2683 what did you decide?
Would the V3 pro be an upgrade over the Dareu A950 pro or should I just get the Hyperspeed V3?
I think it would be an upgrade yea.
great review man, got my copy this morning and love it but my M5 doesn't click, it registers the use of it but doesn't actually click in or out. Seems like a few people on twitter and Razer discord are having some click issues with M1 and M2 as well.
damn! Very interesting!
I like the faker coating so should i get black or white?
Probably white. But if you haven’t tried the smooth touch coating the black might be worth a try. It’s addicting
is there any major tech improvement compared to the Deathadder V3 Faker edition?
Honestly bro nothing that’s going to be noticeable in your performance
@@FreshReviewsYT Thanks, appreciate the response. Probably will wait some time before my next upgrade.
So the white is like the deathadder v3 pro Faker edition?
Not really. But when it starts to get a bit humid it begins to feel more like the plasticy grip feel of the faker
Old death adder was the goat. I'll never forget it :(
I easily prefer the white coating over the bkack
Most people probably will (at first).
What mousepad is that? Nice review btw
Akari , and Ty!
Can you use the viper v3 pro hyperpolling dongle with other razer mouse?
I haven’t tried to be honest but I don’t think so. The only reason I say that is the deathadder smooth touch is locked to the deathadder
we need wired version of this
Fresh please help me. Would you say the shape between the Fantech Helios II and the viper v3 pro are very similar?
No they’re not
I love my white viper v3 pro im ngl but WHAT IS THAT KEYBOARD? ITS BEAUTIFUL.
Hahaha thanks. It’s the cyber board r4
I think Razer Viper V3 Pro is a direct FU to Logitech's GPX. Blantly coping their shape as they have done in the past. Razer hopes to gain Logitech market share. Especially, GPX 2 was a total let down.
Got mine today the clicks aren’t good imo. Too hard. Pre travel pretty high on my unit and post travel. Might return this and try the zowie u2. The shape is better then the v2 tho
I don't get the glazing for this. for 100$ less you get the exact same mouse but 12g heavier with better clicks in the v3 hyperspeed. The U2 is a much better mouse imo unless you cAnT PlAY WitHoUGhT 4k/8k placebo person.
The shape is very important. U2 ftw
Black one bas lighter clicks idk why
Splendor better than Hype 4?
They’re on par, but for most games I side with the splendor
That low key cyberboard flex though 😎🤑
Haha nooo not trying to flex but it has been awhile since I reaaaaallllyyy wanted a keyboard. Love this thing!
@@FreshReviewsYT Its such a beautiful and crazy board!
@@Desmond987 it really is haha
Hi fresh. Amazing review as always. some offtop question what would u prefer on raiden xsoft jade or tiger ice dots ? Im about ask this question on stream but cant catch u online.
I might honestly almost prefer full
Size on xl just because the dots might sink into the pad
@@FreshReviewsYT thanks alot. i just enjoy dots alot. like u can put 2-3 on each side. i guess ill try jade because i stuck with tiger ice for 3+ years
Love the review bro. What's the cheapest HE keyboard that you'd recommend?
Polar65 for sure
Hi may I know what mousepad you use in the video ?
Akari
Hey how come the DAV3 is no longer in your rankings?
Oh let me check
@@FreshReviewsYT haha I only recently bought a wired version and saw it's no longer in your rankings.. I try and buy things that align to your ranks hahaha
@@theknightofren very good mouse!
Nice video, just one question, where can I buy your mousepad?
It’s a limited run but more designs are coming. Check glsswrks
@@FreshReviewsYT Thanks!
They're shooting themself in the foot with the naming scheme.
Got this yesterday and it immediately felt like an upgrade from my L ULX.
How’s the shape feel compared to the L. Bet the build quality feels much better
I keep going back and forth. The viper’s build quality is definitely better, no doubt. The wight difference is noticeable. The shapes are just different enough that I wouldn’t say one is “better” than the other. Just different.
Long term though I trust razer more lol
Can you pair it to a smaller dongle and run it at only 1k hz?
Not sure