Why Your Ring Light Sucks
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- Опубліковано 31 гру 2024
- Never use ring lights! If you want soft beauty glamor selfie lighting for makeup tutorials on UA-cam, do not use stupid ring lights if you want to look beautiful. This video explains why and WHAT TO DO to get better lighting for makeup tutorials and other girlie vlog videos on youtube for that softbox type professional lighting when you use that video camera for tik tok or Instagram selfies or UA-cam.
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This is the ring-light-trashing video we all needed. I hate seeing that circular reflection in the eyes. The bigger ring light didn't do a whole lot better in this regard. The soft box is the best way.
I think it's more for like aesthetics especially getting that catch light in the eyes but to be fair I understand exactly what he's talking about because I owned three of those small ring lights and I always wondered why is it making my models look harsh
Ring lights make people's eyes look like the kids from "Village of the Damned."
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For real
One thing I hate about ring lights is the donut-shaped catchlight you in the model's eyes, which I always think looks weird and unnatural - especially when it overlaps the pupil! Beauty-dishes can have the same effect because the reflector in the middle creates a dark spot; that's why I seldom use them. The giant ring light we get to see at 1:44 creates a more pleasing catchlight effect, to my eye; the catchlight is bigger, literally a ring of light, surrounding the centre of Cara's eyes. That looks OK to me. And of course, the quality of lighting is better, and more flattering.
It's great how you clearly demonstrate the idea you are talking about it. Even amateurs like me can grasp it, no problem. Thanks as always.
Love how Cara was having fun with it..... Great video!
Got to love how patience your girlfriend is. She’s a great model. I’m happy for both of you.
Patient.
@ thank you for saving my life. I don’t know what would happened to the world without our loving grammar police.
I use a ring light and a small led light and couldn't figure out why the lighting was bad no matter how I move it around 😅 I got the answer now. Thank you for the video!
Another EXCELLENT video from MarkusPix and Cara. Yes I have been brainwashed that ring light make my skin look soft & beautiful. However, you two have demonstrated that the one with the BIGGER size will do, NOT the regular size one. Thank you. I wish you too Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Maybe buy more ring lights to have a ring of ring lights?
I’m not into photo- or videography personally, but I love to learn about it through your video’s.
Always awesome and right on, never could get anything from those silly ring lights for selfies 😂
Thank you Markus and Cara for the lighting demonstration.
Thanks Markus. I like the way you tell it as it is. Succinctly and no BS. Always thought ring lights looked rubbish ever since I bought one 10-15 years back for a Lencarta flash head ( re-badged Godox I think). Looked horrible, never used it, sold when I could. Might be OK for macro, but also no modelling effect either. Shadow has its place.
Macro is their ideal use
So simple. Yet effective ! And cheap ! And easy to store ! My neighbour is a professional makeup artist and uses a ring light for her client pics. I'll send her this video and encourage her to use your solution for better lighting ! Greetings from Prague, CZ !
The most anticipated creator content. I am subscribe to a lot of YT channels but yours is the only one that I seriously can’t wait to see your next video. I honestly genuinely look forward to your videos. You make my day every time. Especially when Cara is with you. Seeing you two interacting makes my believe humans are actually OK.😊
Totally agree with you. Ring lighting is terrible as a key light for a face. I was gifted a 12" ring and actually bought 36" ring light. But whether it was the 12" or the 36", it was always much better just bouncing the light off of a white wall or through a diffision panel from a 5 in 1 reflector kit. I now use a Fotodiox XL 30.5" pancake with the 12 in ring as a fill light. I never liked the harsh ring lighting or the alien eye effect. However, they are budget options, if window lighting is not an option. When not used directly on faces, there might be other uses for these lights.
Cara always looks fantastic no matter what the light is! However, yes I agree with your assessment Markus! Great video!
And a camcorder in the middle of the light. Next level for creativity. Absolutely love your channel, it saves me thousands and I’m learning more and more. THANK YOU. Happy new year🎉
Yeah but on the cheap a big ring light off on the side bounce or used as a halo can work really well. Also, they are ultimately adjustable with different tones and brightness without the need for gels or moving them around too much. Putting the camera in the middle is well played out but they are good for other stuff. Put two rings inside each other say, a 12" inside a 19" 24 volt Sunpacks adds all kinds of possibilities.
I've toyed with the idea of making a ring light from strings of Christmas lights. They're all on clearance now. My original idea was to use a metal ring for making wreaths, but even the large wreath rings are only about 2 feet diameter. After this video, maybe a better idea is to use some plastic tube light protectors and some butcher paper as a diffuser and aluminum tape or foil as reflector, with some PVC/PE pipe for support and mounting.
What's funny about ring lights (a small ring of multiple individual bulbs) is that I first heard about them is from the adult industry. (I wasn't in the industry, but I heard about it in a documentary, maybe HBO's _Real S x_ series.)They thought the ring of light reflected in each eye was seductive.
I don’t think Christmas lights would be bright enough to be effective, endless you pack in a lot of strings. But I would be interested to see the results of your build.
@@jakeaurod i got inspired by your comment. I just have several Ikea led strap sitting around. Now i know what to do. ;)
Oh man, bless U. Your problem solving skill is next level n so freaking practical. 🎉
You have simply forgotten the MOST important thing about light, the value of the Color Rendering Index or CRI. Even with the right light angles, with the wrong CRI, you'll ruin the shot and never understand why.
Lol I made a video just for you ua-cam.com/video/XxDkACCWYnI/v-deo.html
@@MarkusPix Thanks!
@@robtorres yep.
This comment made me laugh and cringe at the same time.
@@ajgonzalez5109 "This comment made me laugh and cringe at the same time."
"This comment made me laugh and cringe at the same time."
Why? He's a photographer, I'm a video "colorist" with more than half a century years old, 30+ years of experience.
In MY field CRI is important, in HIS field it's not, and he's not right, I'm not wrong, that's not what this is about. The problem with your generation is that we can't SHARE anymore, we can't exchange information, you are either "right" or "wrong". Your ignorant comment "made me laugh and cringe at the same time" because in his other video he shows how important CRI is.
The only thing "funny and cringe" here is you.
I usually suggest to people if they do have a ring light, just point it at the wall if everything is so close, the light bouncing off will make it softer and you will make the image look a lot better than just mounting the camera inside of it.
You're always glamours Markus. You really know how to light things up ;)
This is great. All your tutorials on lighting have helped me a lot. I am looking to buy a couple lights to set up and I want to soften my face and achieve that glamorous look. Thank you for your tutorials! ✨
Hat backwards talking head UA-camr shot in this video 😭🤣😭🤣😭 3:06 this dude is hilarious
Thanks much for dispelling the myths, plus sharing your expertise 😊❤
Ring lights are so prevalent because you can pick one up at 5 Below or Walmart for cheap. My main beef with them is the white O reflecting in the subjects eyes, I find that too distracting.
As you have explained and shown, larger “ring” lights give a very soft glamour look.
However smaller ring light do give a unique look especially the shadow around the subject.
A ring light is for putting around your lens when close up, where your subject would be shaded by your camera or head with any other light. As ring lights go, that one was strangely large. My magnifying lens desk lamp is a typical example of a ring light.
A ring light aimed at a face either means you're trying to pick out a splinter, or someone really wants that uncanny circular glare.
As usual Marcus, so grateful for sharing your knowledge!
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Also, the white ring it puts in your pupils is very annoying. I can always spot it.
Love your videos! Learn something new every time!
Good video. For some reason, vast majority of photographers do not understand lighting.
I was teaching it, working on the field, trust me, like 90% of people simply do not get it.
That was a very educational, and very cool video presentation. I learned a lost. Thank you so much😊
I was surprised to see those get popular for exactly what you're saying. Because in the photo world, studio ring flash produces such hard light.
You tell ‘em, Markus!!
Agree with you 500%, Markus!
Thanks Markus.
Thank you
For anyone who's looking for a ring light and wondering what it could be used for if he says it's so not useful and not glamorous, remember that this is on axis fill light.
If you already have an impressive setup but you want to fill in all the shadows whether ring like that small. Or any ring light for that matter.
EXACTLY
Such great and under rated content. Thank you.
How do you get that light behind the head is there a spotlight in the background it looks awesome 😮
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oh, my favorite chord progression in the outro tune
Great tip.
Great stuff, thanks for sharing.
Happy New Year!!
Great explanation, thx)
I agree with everything you said... but! The iphone selfie camera has 23mm equivalent field of view. Some make-up creators come right up against the screen of the phone to record the details like an eyelash for example. In that close distance the light does in fact comes from 45 degrees angle, and although the face is distorted by that point or you can't even seen all of it, the shadows are eliminated. That matters when you have a brush in front of your face and your hand is shadowing the important part you want your viewers to see. And for the most of the amateur creators there is ring light or no light at all.
I hate the "goat's eyes" effect ring lights give. BTW, a year or so back, you showed your viewers how to adapt an overhead LED flat troffer light to make a cheap softlight panel... so thanks for that, Markus: you saved me a TON of money over pro panel lighting for my projects.
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Nice job as always you have made a professional photographer out of your friend from Georgia
Thanks again
Markus, you are a treasure, man.
Right on my friend. Happy NEW YEAR Aloha
My first flash was a ABR800 one of my favorite, still use it till today. Agreed I never like the small led ring lights :)
It definitely made a difference.
This is amazing. Thank you for another awesome video. ❤
This was very helpful! Thanks
I use my 18" ring-light as a ceiling fixture for low clearance houses/location. It's flat, wide and hangs off a 1/4-20 from a c-stand arm, conveniently off frame (video shots). Movie magic - an unseen ceiling 'fixture' with adjustable color temperature, and brightness. Yeah, never use it as a "ring-light"
hee hee. he had to mute when he said "so... use a ring light" i assume because of the noise of the light hitting the floor. love it.
Thanks for sharing.
1:35 obviously overly backlit
It would be good to see the comparison in a non-studio setup with backlights 😂
Whenever I get into a spat with the significant other, we pull out the makeup mirror. Here's an idea...set up your computer screen as a light. If you have a big enough screen, like a 27 inch. You can photoshop your own lighting setup as an image in any tones or amount of bulbs you want..
I think makus forgets that the majority of people are making youtube video in their closet sized apartment. You can’t build these contraptions if you don’t have a studio or the space in your living room.
Room size doesn't matter. In fact if the space it that small, then aim the light AWAY from you so it bounces off the walls and low ceiling, turning the whole shoebox into a softbox. And yes you CAN use my contraption in a small room. Even closets are 3 feet wide so you can stick tube lights on the wall in front of you 3 feet apart. This is the classic makeup mirror approach and gives amazing soft glamor light.
No excuses.
I like science too 😜
This is one you really can. You don't need a big light stand or anything; even a loop of LED strip hung by strings can do a better job.
Better yet, a window.
@@MarkusPix the only excuse left is cost ! Haha but yea I guess I didn’t really think this through!
Things you teach are what just a professional can teach!
Always great info…
Bigger is better. Got it! 😂
Its a universal fact 😄
Wow... Your are right...just a Flashlight looks better!
ring lights suck, hope more people see this and adapt. I hate seeing people's eyes from ring lights. I get it though, they let you shoot through the ring, and illuminate with a stable product. But they need to go, or evolve more like. A continuous ring is not a good reflection either. A softbox glare in somebody's eyes is way more normal as it looks like a window or something people are used to.. People percieve fakery quite easily, even if they don't know why.
Awesome!
Do you still recommend the ad100 pro or should I get the ad200 instead or both? 😅
My friend is selling two ad100 pro that’s why I was wondering 😮
both are great
@ YAY THANK YOU FOR INSPIRING ME
If you can get a deal and they work properly, take the available deal.
@ it is $500 Canadian ($346 usd) for two ad100 pro and I believe there’s a Kit , do I need two? I already have the sk400 godox for home I just needed something for travel around that’s light weight that’s why I was looking at the ad200 but my friend wants the ad200 so he’s selling the ad100 pro kit x2
The more I watch Markus vids, the more i learn and have some questions. Usually I use led light panels but now, i'm curious to use COB or tube. Any advice for interview inside in small office with low roof ?
Any light will work if you use it right. Cobs an be aimed at the walls and ceiling behind you turning the whole room into a softbox. Tubes work if you have multiple ones surrounding the face or if you make a T out of them ua-cam.com/video/7BU3UJvLQ4U/v-deo.html or obviously a cob with softbox.
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Thanks. Funny 😂
I still haven’t found a 240v equivalent of those feit lights in Australia.
I still haven't found any kangaroos to play with in las Vegas
@ trust me, your not missing out lol
It's the demon eyes that get me every damn time
Yes! Finally, someone said it! Ring-lights suck balls! Even the catchlight looks ugly!
Super!
Hey is there any way you can figure out how to get those cheap Home Depot lights to work off a battery
The eyes of the ring light 😮
Cool video mate
Do a review of the Fuji XM5
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A ring light has a very limited purpose. The problem is, too many UA-camrs and even videographers/photographers are copycats. Where they just do, because others are doing it, without thinking/understanding when and why to do it, and when and why not to do it.
If it's cool looking.....Then everyone is onboard (until the next cool thing comes along).
Nice Tips
Something you didn't mention, the ring light glare on the eyes looks weird/awful too.
Markus, have you checked out the Godox TL30 led kit yet?
Its like a heavier version of this ua-cam.com/video/7BU3UJvLQ4U/v-deo.html The Godox circle is smaller (24" ft vs 28") but weighs more, is more complex, each light has to be charged separately as opposed to 2 NP batteries powering everything but it's still a fun product.
Such a big difference.
But, but, but Markus....They aren't REAL youtuber's without all the COOL gadgets! 😁
3:05 Love for backwards cap content creators 😝💗
Ring lights are all over the place. If you watch the new Nicole Kidman movie "Babygirl", you'll notice one of the "interview" scenes use a ring light. It's just in there, but I don't think it was doing much. I just thought it was interesting, made my eyebrow raise and mumble "ring light" in the theater... 😅
The only reason people use ring lights is to get rings in their eye balls, which makes any eye look good. I remember it got popular to have rings in the eyes at some point 10 years ago. So the people who started using them were reeaaally close to the camera. That's where this makes kind of sense, if you sit right infront of the lens. Because another effect is fish eye effect makes any face look interesting.
Great job Markus and Cara!!
Markus, you know you now have to rig up a big ring light that Cara can wear on her shoulders right?🤣
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Imagine filming a pocket 3 through a ring light. 😳
i hate having gigantic blinding lights shining in my eyes, any solution for that? (not sunglasses pls)
1:01 I don't know man, the first one looks superior to me.
Nice but not cheap here in homedepot canada. 100 CAD each plus taxes. :-(
It was a great episod.
why don't you try to record your self on your smartphone, I know you hate it but consider it as a challenge...
What I like to use ring lights for: 1. photogrammetry, 2.