Thanks for producing the review JM; Ultimately your findings show this as a situation/creative piece of glass. I am always worried about being locked in to a lens that has "creative" looks built-in to them. I know a lot of people hate glass that seem clinical, sharp, and boring; but I feel that aspect of having a super clean image allows more flexibility and creativity with that image, via filters, in post, etc... I still pre-ordered the the 25mm APO; images look great; just worried that I may not get the most out of it at the current buy in rate.
Thanks for watching Regi. Thanks a great point that you make. It is important to have a variety of lenses that you know how and when to use them. The APOs are a much more refined lens and leans on the clinical look as opposed to the microprimes. I hope the lens ships soon!
@@joshuamartinstudios Really like your content and got very interested in SLR micro prime. However, I found the 25mm on MFT mount still quite tight for most of the documentary shot and the wider micro prime doesn't seem to have enough bright aperture. What do you use for wide-angle shot?
@@fangshizhu9383 I hear ya. I use the SLR Magic 8mm F/4 as my ultra-wide and 18mm T2.8 as my standard wide - I made a video on those two lenses as well.
I though you was using a black pro mist well thats good now i ca use the mist on othet lenses ...i just got it i just lernt about the mist...i seen the bloom in your shots but did not understand now i do
Nice review. For handheld, 25 is a bit too narrow for me, but it would be a good for my tripod shots. The bloom in the shot was a bit much for my taste, but I'm not sure how the SLR Magic compares to other lenses with the same conditions. Did you try with and without the Tilta top flag blocking the light?
Thanks for your thoughts! other comparations will come later on. I purposely didn't use the top flag of the mattebox on those shoots so that I can see how the lens performs in a "raw" state. but the top flag does reduce the amount of flare coming in. If you watch my review on the tilta mattebox you can see examples there.
What do you guys think of the format for my lens reviews? Real-world point of view first then tech specs. Also, I know many of you might not like the flaring or the soft edges at T2. If you stop down to T2.8 - T4 for it'll sharpen up. Using a mattebox will greatly reduce the flaring with top/side flags. This lens review was how I use it - so keep that in mind.
I like your approach, specially that you use real footage from projects that you do. Not as some people, like Mateo Bertolli, that says he is a DOP with a lot of work, but all he uses is footage of his girlfriend. Or other "filmmakers" out there that usually use family footage, because actually have no other. I like this SLR magic, seems like a nice lens. I have 3 Voigtlanders, 10.5 25 and 42.5, missing only 17.5 for a full set. Here is some fresh work from me :) ua-cam.com/video/ulb1g2tyEm4/v-deo.html
@@shareablemedia I appreciate your comment. Mateo has shown some client, doc, and spec work too. But I get what you mean. Thanks for sharing that link to your work!
Low light is such a loaded topic. In this case T2 on the SLR magic 25mm yields better results than at T1.5 - but in comparison to the Meike at T2.2 the difference will be the sharpness. So depending on the camera you are using - low will be depended on the camera in my opinion.
Hey Josh, quick question did you need to buy some sort of adapter ring to get the tilta mini to fit on to the lens? or were you able to make it work out of the box?
What are the major differences between Slr Magic MicroPrime cine 25 T1.5 and the SLR Magic HyperPrime 25 T0.95? which do you recommend for a small indi film maker/ commercials?
I recently just sold my 25mm T0.95. I would consider that a specialty lens. It's unique because of that fast T stop of T0.95 on a MFT Sensor which is T1.4 depth of field wide open. It's small and great for very light setup. It's a modern vintage look. Similar to the microprimes It has its down falls of being very soft until T2.8 but it's how you use it. I think the microprime is a better upgrade in term of image quality, build and consistent size in the lineup I would recommend the microprimes T1.5 for commercial and Indi films.
The Micro Prime lenses are full frame as the E Mount versions have shown, SLR Magic just happen to also make them in crop sensor mounts Fuji X for APS-C & MFT for MFT (obviously). But it's worth pointing out that a few of their lenses at the wider end such 12mm only have MFT coverage.
Can you comment on how this lens differs from the old SLR Magic 25mm HyperPrime T0.95? It looks like you have both. Why did you upgrade? Are you happy you did?
Great question and I'm actually working on a video about that. But there are 3 key differences between the microprimes and hyperprimes. 1. The microprimes have a more uniformed and consistent design with gear placement, 82mm front thread and internal focusing. 2. the optics have a better performance at wider T stops vs a soft T0.95 in the hyperprimes. 3. the micro line up comes in several different mounts now, xmount, mft, EF (APO) and Emount.
You say you would use tge 25mm on the X-H1 and now you say you also use it for t MFT also most of the time. Shouldnt be the field of view be a bit wider on APS-C with 25mm? Why do u like it for both setups?
So the SLR magic microprime line comes in MFT, Xmount, EF (APO only) and e mount. Yes I have the xh1 and use the xmount microprimes for that camera. Yes the field of view is wider on the APSC - I both options as individual aesthetics as I use either camera system. The 25mm MFT acts differently than the Xmount.
@@joshuamartinstudios interesting. Thx for your answer. I need an camera update to get a little bit more professional. I was really hoping for the x-t4 recording 10bit in h.264 but they still just do it in h.265 which is horrible to work wit and the extra step of making proxys would be a bit too annyoing. GH5 might be old but maxbe still the only option for my prefernces. I love Fuji colors though. Maybe the BMPCC 4K would be an option as well, but Im scared if its reliable enough for me and not much for run and gun.
The 25mm field of view on the pocket is 47.5mm roughly. So it's a standard FOV. The 12 will be wider. The meike lenses a good price. It's a clinical look good for corporate work or if you looking for a cleaner image with less flaring and blooming
Joshua Martin Studios Yeeah I was thinking about the Apo’s too but they are unfortunately just T2.1’s and I’m used to 1.5 from the Cooke’s we have in the studio 🙈
But do you always film wide open at T1.5? I'm picking up the 32 T2.1 because there's no other lens with APO glass at this price point. And these lenses are full frame which can cover up to 8k. Can't beat that
Does 12mm and 25mm have the same sensor size coverage? I bought to of those lens and using on my MFT sensor and the 25mm looks like 50mm and it's perfect but the 12mm looks way wider than 14mm. Is it just the way it feels or is it actuary wider? If anybody can answer, please comment on this.
I agree with you a 2:28 it does look like a pro mist is on the lens. I filmed this ua-cam.com/video/q7i0tSlngPs/v-deo.html with the 25mm and it definitely looks like a pro mist is on the lens.
Yes, love these reviews man! Your work with these lenses is gorgeous. I might have to add one of these to my cart... haha
yeahhh brodie! everyone is talking about the meike - with respect, the SLR magic has more personality for my taste.
LENS REVIEW GANG!!!!!!! I like the video. It's very informative and your rig is gorgeous.
AYYYYYEEEEEE YESSSIIRRRR - thanks for watching bro!
@@joshuamartinstudios No problem. I'm always here. Haven't missed an upload yet.
You're the real mvp!
@@joshuamartinstudios I try my best!
I just got my bmpcc 4k full rig & got with it a slr magic 25mm t0.95 . Can't wait to try it.
Sweet! This will be my first cine lens to try out and master. Thanks for dropping a clean review as always!
Excellent! Thanks for watching! Use the link in the bio!
Clean and informative review as always brother!
Always appreciate the support my guy!
So dang beautiful!
I really like this lens review format. Keep the good work
I often feel like I should have gone the MFT way just for these lenses!
I appreciate you! just get the new APO microprimes!
😂 you heard my thoughts man - three hours ago I was looking for a video from you about this lens
BOOM! what did you think?
I like the cute compact X-H1 setup!
right!?
Joshua Martin Studios Want to do something similar for my S1H, I don’t want a huge clunky rig lol
@@NatesFilmTutorials yeah all you need is a bottom plate with rails and build from there lol
Thanks for producing the review JM; Ultimately your findings show this as a situation/creative piece of glass. I am always worried about being locked in to a lens that has "creative" looks built-in to them. I know a lot of people hate glass that seem clinical, sharp, and boring; but I feel that aspect of having a super clean image allows more flexibility and creativity with that image, via filters, in post, etc... I still pre-ordered the the 25mm APO; images look great; just worried that I may not get the most out of it at the current buy in rate.
Thanks for watching Regi. Thanks a great point that you make. It is important to have a variety of lenses that you know how and when to use them. The APOs are a much more refined lens and leans on the clinical look as opposed to the microprimes. I hope the lens ships soon!
🔥🔥🔥🔥
ayyyyeeee lol
Great review! This might change my mind about getting the Meike.
haha, thanks for watching Conrad!
THIS is an awesome video. I'm looking for these for my Sony a6400. I know they make e mounts.... Such great work here...
greetings from Costa Rica, great clip, very good information about the lens!!! cheers!
The highlight and skin look very pleasing. Not sure if it's because the lens or because of the camera.
It's a combination of both, however, lenses do play a larger roll in detail such as bokeh, sharpness, and color
@@joshuamartinstudios Really like your content and got very interested in SLR micro prime. However, I found the 25mm on MFT mount still quite tight for most of the documentary shot and the wider micro prime doesn't seem to have enough bright aperture. What do you use for wide-angle shot?
@@fangshizhu9383 I hear ya. I use the SLR Magic 8mm F/4 as my ultra-wide and 18mm T2.8 as my standard wide - I made a video on those two lenses as well.
I need one of those for my SLR Anomorphot 50 1.3!!!
Perfect for it with bmpcc4k i think
Working on a project?
@@joshuamartinstudios
no
I though you was using a black pro mist well thats good now i ca use the mist on othet lenses ...i just got it i just lernt about the mist...i seen the bloom in your shots but did not understand now i do
Nice review. For handheld, 25 is a bit too narrow for me, but it would be a good for my tripod shots. The bloom in the shot was a bit much for my taste, but I'm not sure how the SLR Magic compares to other lenses with the same conditions. Did you try with and without the Tilta top flag blocking the light?
Thanks for your thoughts! other comparations will come later on. I purposely didn't use the top flag of the mattebox on those shoots so that I can see how the lens performs in a "raw" state. but the top flag does reduce the amount of flare coming in. If you watch my review on the tilta mattebox you can see examples there.
What do you guys think of the format for my lens reviews? Real-world point of view first then tech specs. Also, I know many of you might not like the flaring or the soft edges at T2. If you stop down to T2.8 - T4 for it'll sharpen up. Using a mattebox will greatly reduce the flaring with top/side flags. This lens review was how I use it - so keep that in mind.
I like your approach, specially that you use real footage from projects that you do. Not as some people, like Mateo Bertolli, that says he is a DOP with a lot of work, but all he uses is footage of his girlfriend. Or other "filmmakers" out there that usually use family footage, because actually have no other. I like this SLR magic, seems like a nice lens. I have 3 Voigtlanders, 10.5 25 and 42.5, missing only 17.5 for a full set. Here is some fresh work from me :) ua-cam.com/video/ulb1g2tyEm4/v-deo.html
@@shareablemedia I appreciate your comment. Mateo has shown some client, doc, and spec work too. But I get what you mean. Thanks for sharing that link to your work!
@@joshuamartinstudios From what I have seen, he is not a DOP (Mateo). But nevermind. Stay well.
Joshua Martin Studios Hey Josh, I’d like to know what rig that is you’re sporting in this video, is it an Easy Rig?
@@RodneyCooperFilmz correct, it's an easy rig
Appreciate the info bro 👍🏾
Great review as always. Noticed you using the TIlta Mini Matte Box. Does it fit directly to the Micro Primes or do you have to use an adaptor?
Would this lens be better at low light than the Meike 25mm?
Low light is such a loaded topic. In this case T2 on the SLR magic 25mm yields better results than at T1.5 - but in comparison to the Meike at T2.2 the difference will be the sharpness. So depending on the camera you are using - low will be depended on the camera in my opinion.
Great Lens!!
It sure is!!
Hey Josh, quick question did you need to buy some sort of adapter ring to get the tilta mini to fit on to the lens? or were you able to make it work out of the box?
Do you have any adapter to use fujifilm lens on blackmagic? I need one
What are the major differences between Slr Magic MicroPrime cine 25 T1.5 and the SLR Magic HyperPrime 25 T0.95? which do you recommend for a small indi film maker/ commercials?
I recently just sold my 25mm T0.95. I would consider that a specialty lens. It's unique because of that fast T stop of T0.95 on a MFT Sensor which is T1.4 depth of field wide open.
It's small and great for very light setup. It's a modern vintage look. Similar to the microprimes
It has its down falls of being very soft until T2.8 but it's how you use it.
I think the microprime is a better upgrade in term of image quality, build and consistent size in the lineup
I would recommend the microprimes T1.5 for commercial and Indi films.
Josh, did you found any issues with the 25mm hyperprime at focus infinity on BMPCC4k ?
I mean slightly out of focus on infinity ?
Hey Joshua, what is the minimum focus distance of this lens? I could not find the info on their page.
Optically, what is the difference between this lens and the 0.95 Hyperprime? I like that form factor better for my purposes. Thx
Are they making full frame cine lenses?
Yes, the APO Microprimes are full-frame lenses
The Micro Prime lenses are full frame as the E Mount versions have shown, SLR Magic just happen to also make them in crop sensor mounts Fuji X for APS-C & MFT for MFT (obviously). But it's worth pointing out that a few of their lenses at the wider end such 12mm only have MFT coverage.
Correct
Can you comment on how this lens differs from the old SLR Magic 25mm HyperPrime T0.95? It looks like you have both. Why did you upgrade? Are you happy you did?
Great question and I'm actually working on a video about that. But there are 3 key differences between the microprimes and hyperprimes. 1. The microprimes have a more uniformed and consistent design with gear placement, 82mm front thread and internal focusing. 2. the optics have a better performance at wider T stops vs a soft T0.95 in the hyperprimes. 3. the micro line up comes in several different mounts now, xmount, mft, EF (APO) and Emount.
@@joshuamartinstudios are the hyper and micro optically same? I notice that the hyperprime is also called as “cine e mount” in full frame ef mount
You say you would use tge 25mm on the X-H1 and now you say you also use it for t
MFT also most of the time. Shouldnt be the field of view be a bit wider on APS-C with 25mm? Why do u like it for both setups?
So the SLR magic microprime line comes in MFT, Xmount, EF (APO only) and e mount. Yes I have the xh1 and use the xmount microprimes for that camera. Yes the field of view is wider on the APSC - I both options as individual aesthetics as I use either camera system. The 25mm MFT acts differently than the Xmount.
@@joshuamartinstudios interesting. Thx for your answer. I need an camera update to get a little bit more professional. I was really hoping for the x-t4 recording 10bit in h.264 but they still just do it in h.265 which is horrible to work wit and the extra step of making proxys would be a bit too annyoing. GH5 might be old but maxbe still the only option for my prefernces. I love Fuji colors though. Maybe the BMPCC 4K would be an option as well, but Im scared if its reliable enough for me and not much for run and gun.
is the 25 mm wide enough for mft ? or 12 mm is better ? and what do you think of meike cine lenses.
The 25mm field of view on the pocket is 47.5mm roughly. So it's a standard FOV.
The 12 will be wider.
The meike lenses a good price. It's a clinical look good for corporate work or if you looking for a cleaner image with less flaring and blooming
tell me please. Is there a difference in quality between Meike cine lenses and SLR magic micropime. I wanted to buy
I wish it would fit on EF I’d love one on my zcam e2 s6 😭
Have you looked at the APO MICROPRIME? It's EF Mount
There's a review on my channel
Joshua Martin Studios Yeeah I was thinking about the Apo’s too but they are unfortunately just T2.1’s and I’m used to 1.5 from the Cooke’s we have in the studio 🙈
But do you always film wide open at T1.5? I'm picking up the 32 T2.1 because there's no other lens with APO glass at this price point. And these lenses are full frame which can cover up to 8k. Can't beat that
I also have the Z Cam S6 and i'm wondering if the lens will cover the sensor with the MFT Mount ?
what size can I attach ND filter?
Does 12mm and 25mm have the same sensor size coverage? I bought to of those lens and using on my MFT sensor and the 25mm looks like 50mm and it's perfect but the 12mm looks way wider than 14mm. Is it just the way it feels or is it actuary wider? If anybody can answer, please comment on this.
Do you know the better the Apo version?
I own it. Watch done with fear it was shot in it
@@joshuamartinstudios I mean, what is it better?
whats better huperpime or microprime?
Microprimes are better
@@joshuamartinstudios Cuz sharper or ?
I agree with you a 2:28 it does look like a pro mist is on the lens. I filmed this ua-cam.com/video/q7i0tSlngPs/v-deo.html with the 25mm and it definitely looks like a pro mist is on the lens.
For real man. In unique for this price point