I prefer to shoot in manual focus, even for run and gun style. I typically use my Sony's focus peaking feature to help as a guide and it works out well. It's nice to use cine lenses then because of the longer focus throw. I'm a fan of the SLR Magic cine lenses and I have the 25, 35, 50 and 75 of their earlier cine run - the ones with F stops. I like this tutorial and I agree, they certainly do have a lot of character.
A hard stop is absolutely essential to set up a follow focus system. It clicks because it's supposed to make a hard stop. Not a mushy, soft and quiet stop.
Great overview for this! Thanks for taking the time. Looks like great quality in a tiny, pocketable size! It would make swinging lenses a breeze :) btw, the sound isn't the issue for a clicked photography lens. We usually grab audio externally anyway. The smooth iris motion is much more important in having a clickless aperture ring for video. :)
Update: Already got it sitting home, tried it out with a Sony A7III from my favorite camera store. Did decent with the A7III. Expecting it to be better on the A7sIII since the lens is made for low light environments/bokeh as the new A7sIII is too. Probably the best 4k cinema grade budget kit for people who'll do both cinematography and post stills with decent resolution on social medias.
Are we not gonna talk about how this is the equivalent of an f1.1?? I have this one cuz of this review. Haven't used it yet cuz I have a lot going on but I can't wait to sit down and get some.
@@PavSZ oh I thought I heard you say 1.1 but still 1.5 ain't too shabby! Went out and shot the 50 after I rewatched this, you're right great picture lens
I wouldn't say T stop is more accurate - F stop is basically the size of the aperture in proportion to the projection length - while T-stop is the effective light efficiency of the lens. For example, the Mitakon Speedmaster F0.95 has an overly huge proportional aperture but the glass cannot transmit as efficiently as it has only T1.3. Only the F-Stop will decide how much bokeh you get! The T-stop is not effecting the bokeh! - There are high-efficiency T-stop lenses but the bokeh is worse. This is why the Mitakon Speedmaster F0.95 has more bokeh than this T1.2 lens. So to pack it up: Mitakon Speedmaster F0.95 shows Cateye bokeh because the glass is proportionally smaller than it should be - hence T1.3, While this SLR Magic lens has enough glass and projection coverage for high-efficiency T-stop but the aperture is not near F0.95 - hence giving rounder (but smaller) bokeh in the corners compared to the Mitakon. Hope this clears it up a bit - usually higher F-Stop is difficult without optical flaws - if you care about low-light situations one should generally look for Cine lenses as they are more efficient and the T-stop is accurate to measure your shutter speed. In terms of optical engineering - a lens like the Mitakon F0.95 makes not much sense - since the argument is the speed - you are better of with this SLR Magic lens as it is indeed faster! If you want a more flawed and blurred image the Mitakon is for you. To get rid of the aberrations both of these lenses show at widest aperture I recommend a 400nm UV cut filter - this will get rid of purple fringing (as it blocks the UV color spectrum fully). They are also classified as A2 UV filters.
who is T for ? for film makers, different lens at same T.stops expose exactly the same, different lenses with same f.stop expose differently. When we film the same scene with different lenses, having exactly the same exposure saves us time in color correction.
I wonder if this is this T1.2 is the same optically as the 50mm F1.1 lens that SLR Magic sells. From the weight of it, it may be that there is more glass. I hope that the T1.2 is an improvement, since I just bought one. But I'm thinking I just wasted some money and could have just gotten the F1.1. Does anyone know if there is any difference?
is the rotation of focus in the regular direction? because i got a nikkor that the focus is the other way around and I am always spinning the worg way..
HI, but what you think about DZOFILM Vespid Primes ? is that better than Magic APO MicroPrime ? I saw a lot of good reviews about DZOFILM Vespid Primes
Hah! Oh man I am sorry, but honestly that makes me feel better! I love that lens and was like, wait am I missing something!? hah! well really great videos man, I really enjoy your style! thank you so much for the reply!
More comfortable with af sometimes use mf. I have a similar style of lens, the Kamlan 50mm f/1.1 but I find stabilising it in hand difficult. How did this one handle free hand? You captured some beautiful video and shoots with it.
Very difficult hand held, There are few shots in my video hand held but slowed down to 40%. I don't think ti's a lens meant to be used hand held (much). Thanks Robert!
T-Stops are more accurate and constant than F-Stops. A T1.2 from SLR will be exactly the same as a T1.2 from Zeiss. On the other hand F-Stops vary from brand to brand.
no, I refer to the overall look, mainly the look and quality of bokeh. A lot of lenses are just too clinical and images or video looks just the same as from another "perfect" lens. Lenses with character display unique characteristics to this specific lens - this is due to differences in build and optics quality.
It's been so long since I've reviewed this lens that I don't remember but it is a lens that meant to be used with a follow focus so I can't see the focus travel to be too long
Are you comfortable using manual lenses or are you a slave to auto-focus??
I prefer to shoot in manual focus, even for run and gun style. I typically use my Sony's focus peaking feature to help as a guide and it works out well. It's nice to use cine lenses then because of the longer focus throw. I'm a fan of the SLR Magic cine lenses and I have the 25, 35, 50 and 75 of their earlier cine run - the ones with F stops. I like this tutorial and I agree, they certainly do have a lot of character.
@@chrislinder9402 I prefer to shoot manual as well! Love SLR Magic! Thanks for watching!
I shoot only in manual focus; when possible, prefer to use focus magnification.
I’m a slave! I can’t multitask well.
This is one of the finest reviews on a lens I’ve seen in awhile. Thank you.
Wow, thanks!
A hard stop is absolutely essential to set up a follow focus system. It clicks because it's supposed to make a hard stop. Not a mushy, soft and quiet stop.
This lens is a vibe!
there is so many more alternatives available now from Sirui and 7Artisans
@@PavSZI've noticed 7artisan brand, are they any good? They didn't come across as a quality brand, perhaps I'm wrong
@@kidbouji283 I have reviewed few of their and Sirui lenses previously
real nice!
thank you for watching
I love the way you explained the value of T .
Thanks!
Great overview for this! Thanks for taking the time. Looks like great quality in a tiny, pocketable size! It would make swinging lenses a breeze :)
btw, the sound isn't the issue for a clicked photography lens. We usually grab audio externally anyway. The smooth iris motion is much more important in having a clickless aperture ring for video. :)
thanks!
You right but it's so much practical to use variable ND filters anyway
The lens looks awesome, nice video I'm 5 mins in
keep going! thanks! 🙂
Probably gonna buy this for my A7Siii
Update:
Already got it sitting home, tried it out with a Sony A7III from my favorite camera store. Did decent with the A7III. Expecting it to be better on the A7sIII since the lens is made for low light environments/bokeh as the new A7sIII is too.
Probably the best 4k cinema grade budget kit for people who'll do both cinematography and post stills with decent resolution on social medias.
excellent review! thanks!
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
Are we not gonna talk about how this is the equivalent of an f1.1?? I have this one cuz of this review. Haven't used it yet cuz I have a lot going on but I can't wait to sit down and get some.
isn't it the other way? T1.1 is approx. f1.5 (I think)
@@PavSZ oh I thought I heard you say 1.1 but still 1.5 ain't too shabby! Went out and shot the 50 after I rewatched this, you're right great picture lens
Just orderd cant wait for it to come in!!
Nice one!
Such a beautiful lens!
It really is
Very informative, thanks for the video!
Glad it was helpful!
I wouldn't say T stop is more accurate - F stop is basically the size of the aperture in proportion to the projection length - while T-stop is the effective light efficiency of the lens. For example, the Mitakon Speedmaster F0.95 has an overly huge proportional aperture but the glass cannot transmit as efficiently as it has only T1.3. Only the F-Stop will decide how much bokeh you get! The T-stop is not effecting the bokeh! - There are high-efficiency T-stop lenses but the bokeh is worse. This is why the Mitakon Speedmaster F0.95 has more bokeh than this T1.2 lens. So to pack it up:
Mitakon Speedmaster F0.95 shows Cateye bokeh because the glass is proportionally smaller than it should be - hence T1.3, While this SLR Magic lens has enough glass and projection coverage for high-efficiency T-stop but the aperture is not near F0.95 - hence giving rounder (but smaller) bokeh in the corners compared to the Mitakon. Hope this clears it up a bit - usually higher F-Stop is difficult without optical flaws - if you care about low-light situations one should generally look for Cine lenses as they are more efficient and the T-stop is accurate to measure your shutter speed. In terms of optical engineering - a lens like the Mitakon F0.95 makes not much sense - since the argument is the speed - you are better of with this SLR Magic lens as it is indeed faster! If you want a more flawed and blurred image the Mitakon is for you. To get rid of the aberrations both of these lenses show at widest aperture I recommend a 400nm UV cut filter - this will get rid of purple fringing (as it blocks the UV color spectrum fully). They are also classified as A2 UV filters.
Excellent
Thanks
Very nice video man!
Great review. Very easy to follow. Youre like the Arnold Schwarzenegger of the video world
haha thanks! Wrong accent but thanks! 😀👍🏻
Great review!
Thanks!
great review... 🙌
thank you
Nice review!
Glad you enjoyed it
This is what you'd call an ART lens! It reminds me of the old Zeiss Planar T
it is like a modern vintage lens - feels like it
@@PavSZ I'm sold!
who is T for ? for film makers, different lens at same T.stops expose exactly the same, different lenses with same f.stop expose differently. When we film the same scene with different lenses, having exactly the same exposure saves us time in color correction.
Hi... what do you think I could use on a leica M mount? If I buy the sony to leica adapter it will work.? thanks for your opinion
theoretically speaking it should work
I wonder if this is this T1.2 is the same optically as the 50mm F1.1 lens that SLR Magic sells. From the weight of it, it may be that there is more glass. I hope that the T1.2 is an improvement, since I just bought one. But I'm thinking I just wasted some money and could have just gotten the F1.1. Does anyone know if there is any difference?
Well I see T1.2 focuses down to 12" (0.3m) instead of the 0.5m that the F1.1 does. That's something, but it may just be a longer helicoid.
Unfortunately I have never used the f1.1 version so I can't comment - sorry
is the rotation of focus in the regular direction? because i got a nikkor that the focus is the other way around and I am always spinning the worg way..
good question. I don''t really remember - it's been awhile since I have reviewed this lens
HI, but what you think about DZOFILM Vespid Primes ? is that better than Magic APO MicroPrime ? I saw a lot of good reviews about DZOFILM Vespid Primes
I can't say, I never used them before
Quick question - you mention you can't film with the Zeiss 55/1.8 - any chance you can clarify why you say that?
You made me watch my video again to find out what you are talking about. I said that you 'CAN' film with 55.1.8 (sounds a little like 'can't' (sorry))
Hah! Oh man I am sorry, but honestly that makes me feel better! I love that lens and was like, wait am I missing something!? hah! well really great videos man, I really enjoy your style! thank you so much for the reply!
Dear Sir, can you suggest to me an alternative lens for Fujifilm X mount?
sorry, I don't have enough experience shooting with Fuji to advise
More comfortable with af sometimes use mf. I have a similar style of lens, the Kamlan 50mm f/1.1 but I find stabilising it in hand difficult. How did this one handle free hand? You captured some beautiful video and shoots with it.
Very difficult hand held, There are few shots in my video hand held but slowed down to 40%. I don't think ti's a lens meant to be used hand held (much). Thanks Robert!
Do you still use the microprimes?? Any new content with them?
sorry, no. This was the only one I have reviewed
Anyone use the SLR magic as well as the new Meike FF cine lenses or DZO Vespids?
yes, anyone?
Hey so I’m from the US and I’m trying to contact this place about buying the lens. But no pick. Also you have any of those lens for sell?
sorry, I do not sell lenses. Have you tried the link in the description of my video???
How does it compare the quality image with sigma art lenses
it's a different kind of lens - I don't think it's comparable as a tool
@@PavSZ I also think that I only want a sad confirmation because I’ll have to decide one ore other
Any focus breathing?
very little
T-Stops are more accurate and constant than F-Stops. A T1.2 from SLR will be exactly the same as a T1.2 from Zeiss. On the other hand F-Stops vary from brand to brand.
I have a set on BMCC4K and they does not lock solidly in the mount. The follow focus motor jiggles the lens in the mount.
Is there PL or EF mount?
I don't know. Sorry. Google it 😉
Are the focus ring / apurture ring smooth?
yes
What camera did you use with this lens at 5:08?
it was Sony a7sII
When you say the lens has character are you referring to the color rendition?
no, I refer to the overall look, mainly the look and quality of bokeh. A lot of lenses are just too clinical and images or video looks just the same as from another "perfect" lens. Lenses with character display unique characteristics to this specific lens - this is due to differences in build and optics quality.
How about travel focus distance? Long or??
It's been so long since I've reviewed this lens that I don't remember but it is a lens that meant to be used with a follow focus so I can't see the focus travel to be too long
Why they don't make EF mount :(
good question! No idea 😕
The lens is designed for much shorter flange distances.
If you want EF lenses from SLR Magic - you can look at the APO Microprimes.
Because EF is not a platform for cinema glass
Can you swap the mounts?
I am not sure if you can do that
@@PavSZ I guess not, that is very disappointing, we need to keep on hassling SLR Magic to make this happen!
How do you deal with the breathing of this lens?? That’s stopping me from starting a set
I didn't find breathing was a problem with the one I had
I use cine lens just for still photography, I dont do videos.
awesome!
Why does everyone bleep out corona and COVID19?
UA-cam doesn't like it
@@PavSZ Interesting hahaha
@@PavSZ LOL UA-cam are protecting China in everyway
@@rickypoon918 damn I don't agree with it at all.