What Makes a Mosin Rare?
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In this video Eric debunks the common misconception that all Mosin Nagant rifles are "garbage rods" and actually do have collectible value and plenty of historical significance. This video covers several very obscure and rare Mosin variants that are commonly overlooked as well as many Finnish examples that are exceedingly rare.
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First rifle I ever bought myself was a mosin from the used rack at gander mtn for $150. Once I got into collecting more I looked up the markings. It's a Finnish 91/30 B barrel
Greetings from Finland. Thank you Eric. You saved my day by trying pronounce Puolustuslaitos.
Lol!
Very nice. I have a Russian 1943. It's got everything I wanted. It has the rough machining on the exterior, it has the "walking stick crack" and some character in the stock. It was arsenal refinished but has, according to my Russian friend, someone's initials hand carved into the stock. Unfortunately, they tried to sand it out during the refinishing but it's still visible. Mine isn't a rare example but it's enough to get me more interested in Mosins & I love the initials. Some young Russian man carried that gun in WWII. He used it as a walking stick, he carved, I presume, his girlfriend's initials into it and worried about coming home alive. That makes it a little personal & I like that.
Sounds perfect to me! Could have cracked the stock from smashing someone's head with it. You never know
The 20th Century Limited; nothing wrong with that. I gotta Morin built in ‘42. I love to shoot it. Never mind that it doesn’t look like the Virgin Mary had it first. 2” groups at 250 yards with 62 year old eyes and open sights. I can only imagine what it was through and where it was at, kill count.
Thank you very much I feel
The same way. I love it
I see this post is over 3 years old but good on ya m8. This is my kinda stuff.
My father and I use the Mosin Nagant M44 for deer hunting. Finding the shells for them isn’t as easy as it was 20+ years ago, but it’s our weapon of choice. We bought the original sling, scope, takedown tools, ammo pouch, and oil can for ‘em. Dad has the 200 meter sniper rifle. He refinished his an it’s absolutely gorgeous.
Great hunting rifle.
You can tell Eric is in his happy place when he is handling Mosins
Jesus Balls it’s a good thing the counter is hiding his boner
@@codym4452 bruh
His safe space
I know right I don't blame him I'd be happy too with all those mosins
I ❤ Mosins
Got my first M44 Mosin in the late 80's and came with a spam can of ammo, all for the price of 50 bucks.
Man the 80s... i just got my first mosin, its an M44 and its super fun i am underaged to buy a gun (just by one year) so i got my mom to go halvsies on it with me due to christmas being soon upon us, so i ended up getting an M44 for $170 which doesnt sound too bad these days. It is in great condition but i dont know much about its numbering which is why i am watching alot of videos on mosins to kind of figure out mine.
I’m looking at one in a pawn shop for 450 and I’m wondering if that’s a crazy price these days?
@@thegobblerproject2363 Is it a Finn Mosin? If it is thats a fair price if its in nice shape. If it just a Russian then no way buy it.
It’s a Russian m44
@@thegobblerproject2363 ok yea the M44 is valued more than your basic 91/30 but it would have to be in great shape, near mint bluing, and original finish intact on the stock for it to be worth 450 IMO.
Personally, I believe you should collect what ever brings you the most joy. Just to look at and hold.
Just picked up a 91/59 from and older collector who bought it 35-40 years ago when they started importing them into the country. He bought a few crates of them and hand picked a few for himself. Never even been shot still packed with cosmo in the action but metal is like brand new and wood is clean. Paid 300 for it but whatever he had a ton of cool war stories from Vietnam to talk about.
Ellijah Smith that's a fair price for a 91/59
Awesome deal man! Good price for still being packed in cosmo.
I knew a Lincoln Brigade vet who had one with USSR stamped on it. He told us great stories about freezing in a trench in Spain 🇪🇸 just a really wonderful guy who believed what he was fighting for
George Bethos Probably a great man to boot.
To bad he was a Communist...
"This is one of Chad's out of his collection"
*Smacks buttstock on another rifle*
Man.... what a great video (and collection). No need to apologize for length or information overload. I just watched this twice... back to back. Love your level of knowledge and sharing it! One of my favorite channels.
I watched the full video and I was interested the whole time. loved this Eric ! your so passionate about the history of the gun that you kept me interested. Thank you
Another fine video. I can sit here, watch & listen to the history of the Mosin anytime. This milsurp rifle and the history it encompasses fascinates me. Would love to see more videos like this on the Enfield variants and Springfield 1903 variants. Cheers from Oz.
Very happy you did this video. Been trying to find out what kind of mosin carbine I have for a while. I picked up a 91/59 a few years ago for $100. Thanks again for the vid
Hey I just wanted to say I'm a huge fan and I love your channel. I've always loved firearms but you have renewed my love for them to a whole new level. Thank you!
Hey man thanks for the great videos! Very informative I've learned a lot from your stuff I did not know!! Keep up the great work.
Excellent detail, I learned a lot. This video has inspired me to be more vigilant in my search at gun shows. I think a deal can ve had by knowing more about the rifle than the seller. Video was not too long not, or in any way boring. Thanks Iraqveteran8888!
Eric, I'd really enjoy if you made another video similar to this one regarding military surplus rifles. I love learning from you
LOVED the video and the format. Would love to see more done like this on different segments of your surplus collection to expand my knowledge and appreciation. Yes Yes Yes... more.
loved this vid, you taught me about the Finn mosins a couple years ago with your M39 vid and now I've got two Finn's; an M91 VKT and an M39 Sako. The M91 is really cool because aside from Chatellerault, some piece is made by every Mosin manufacturer. Most is Westinghouse and Remington, but just a cool microcosm of the Mosin world and crazy to think of all of those pivitol moments in several country histories that it was a part of. Thanks for putting this info out there!!
Enfields has my vote for the next one, Great info/video. Thanks
Great video Eric. You are a wealth of information. I purchased 4 Finnish M39’s from Classic a few years ago and the “B” plum colored barrel rifle and the SKY rifle are the sweetest of the 4.
Great video Eric! Keep them coming, I think it would be great to see a video on Spanish Mausers. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Alex from TFB will be triggered by this video
LoL xD
27dcx why so?
27dcx I miss him
garbage rod !!!!
I disagree with Alex on the mosins, but he was definitely the most entertaining dude on that channel.
I understand how much history is in just 1 rifle let alone all the Mosins. I did research on my M39 and have a short paper on the entire rifle. Swiss K31's would be awesome as a review on those rifles can get you to the person who it was assigned to, and more. Collecting military rifles is great!
Great video. As you said that is a lot of information to digest at once but I really enjoyed it. You answered a lot of questions as I am just starting to collect Mosin’s.
Thank you for making this video. I had no idea what variant my Mosin was other than it was finish because it had the Sako stamp. Thank you for doing this.
Someday, Hi - Points will have a video on the rare models 😂
Skragg's Cyclevlog same with Rough Riders. I had one that had a pretty low serial number. It was in the 80,000s and the markings were different than the markings on a later produced rough rider. I felt like that was pretty cool but I sold them a while ago.
Skragg's Cyclevlog if we are lucky and guns aren’t banned and destroyed
Yeah, but like all firearms they'll be declared illegal to own and, (almost), all will be confiscated and destroyed long before then. 🤬☠️🤬
Top 5 Guns to stop a truck from driving into a christmas market
Adrian Hurtado 50 BMG or a mini gun
Too soon maybe? Lol.
Don't let those kind of people in in the first place.
Adrian Hurtado ar 15 in 50 bewowulf
Adrian Hurtado 45 ACP
I'd love to see a video on your favorite or rarest milsurps. I personally really like the longer videos so this one was a treat! Merry Christmas to you guys and God bless.
loved the video! can you do more videos like this for people getting started in collecting? maybe a video in basics of collecting in general.
Aw man I wish Eric would have talked about or had(maybe he does) a Bannerman Mosin Nagant in .30-06 Springfield Forgotten Weapons has a video I think
If you ever find one of those rifles I strongly recommend to NOT shoot it. They are sketchy in terms of what was done to them to convert them to .30-06
Iraqveteran8888 Well you only live once
@@khannell3040 u alive?
2019 update, Mosins are getting harder to find, and are going for $300 dollars for 91/30 arsenal refinished versions. These are crazy times!
Russell I laid 80 bucks lol
I got one for 130$ in like 2013 and that includes tax and s&h
2020- got the cheapest out of a barrel of +10 for 399$ sad days
I know it’s crazy I got one in May of 2019 and the cheapest one I could find was $350
Russell looking at $450 CAD at my local store
I have been searching for a Mosin to start a collection. I did manage to score big on a 1891 Argentine Mauser, which is all matching numbers , except for a missing cleaning rod. I stumbled upon it in a pawn shop, they are great places to find old milsurp rifles .
I also managed to pick up a Brit 303.
Thanks for educating us on this fine rifle collection.
Thank you for all the great mosin nagant information! What a great video! You have a amazing collection.
Great informational video. My regular shooter mosin is a 1927 ex draggon 91/30. Somewhat rare but not extremely. My other mosin is among the rarest: a Finnish m91. My m91 has a 1918 Tula mark on the tang. It has a 1942 marked barrel with the VKT and SA stamps. BUT, it also has the B marked Belgian barrel, AND the Belgian liege proof marks. One of less than 1,200 made. I've only sent 5 rounds down that to test it. Whole thing is like brand new.
I enjoy watching you NERD OUT on the Mosins. It's important to do what makes you happy :-)
Yet he still can’t pronounce Izhvesk properly
@@slicinndicin7546 Dose it matter if he can say Izhevsk properly
Hey Eric, thinking of Barry at this time of year. Gone but never forgotten, and fondly remembered (and watched on UA-cam). Have a great Christmas bro.
Merry Christmas guys! A big thanks for all you do! And a very happy new year!
There's another carbine you didn't mention. In 1907, the Russian army made a carbine for cavalry and artillery troops, designated the M1907. They didn't make very many of them, and even fewer survive today, but they are out there. Just thought I'd point it out
Edit: I accidentally called it the M1917 at first. I have corrected the comment.
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
The End's weapon (rifle) was the Mosin Nagant
Daniel Montano-Lobe Though his had a skeletonized stock and was purpose built as a paratrooper weapon.
It was modified to fire tranquilizer darts as well
I have one of those rare Mosin cross bayonet scabbards, My great uncle brought it home from the war as a souvenir. He was a machine gunner at the Syväri front in continuation war.
Great Video Love all the History and Information. Thanks for Sharing
Thanks, I'm gonna dig in and figure out which one I own
Well done video!
alot of great knowledge about Mosins thanks eric! this will help when I buy a few
Thanks a lot. Just bought my first M91/30. Love these videos man. God bless
WHY I like the Mosin is that they are just SO reliable...
is that sarcasm
White house gaming
No, I like them...
TheSpritz0 is THAT sarcasm?
Being really cheap helps as well...... especially since you get a high power round that will go further than most people can reliably shoot. At least for me.
It will take anything in north America including Polar bears.
Benjamin Griffith Yes, but a mauser can do everything a mosin can do and the build quality is better. And it is not soaked in cosmoline
The Finish certainly know how to make a rifle. I love my Tikka T3x and Sako make some fantastic rifles.
srspower amen to that
Amen.
I love my TikkA T1x!!
So glad you finally uploaded another one
IV love these type of history videos!! But, next time, could you give a sort of price range? very rough, but what sort of price range you could expect at this current time :) Happy new year!
i have one of the 1917 remington eosin's, and i love it
respekt from Finland!
A 47 minute video on Finnish Mosins, this truly is Christmas :)
Happy holidays/merry Christmas from Germany.
Very good informative video, yeah I have watched it a couple times now! Thank You for your time and expertise Eric.
good stuff
m39 's in Canada are about $1000 right now! I love mosin's but not willing to pay that kind in money for one.
jeff ferguson better off getting a Mauser, .303 or something American for that price
Christ, I thought those were pricey in America, they go from $400-$550 here. I got lucky and picked up a Tikka M28 for $280 though.
woa.……. I give 79 for mine
@@wanker7371 Honestly just need to shop around. I did the same... but just offer for $200 for a rough condition one might pull the trigger and buy it
Very informative. Learning the lineage of my M39 one IV8888 video at a time.
It’s fun to see how in to this you are and how much you know thanks for sharing all this information and your military guns
if I remember correctly you have a Makarov collection can you do that next Or Tokarev can't find anything on tokarev pruff mark's can you help me?
Why aren't Mosins still produced? I'm sure that many people would purchase a synthetic stock Mosin if they were affordable and available.
Molot, the company that makes VEPR's, makes a new-production Mosin, but it's not imported.
politics!
I'd rather have a wood stocked one.
They do make a synth stock but you have to just do some work but in the end I would rather have a wood or laminate stock they look so much better in my opinion.
Because there are better actions than the mosin actions
merry Christmas to you and the gang Eric
Love this video. I am that guy who started collecting as many as the allied and axis weapons from WWII. Then I stumbled onto my first 1941 straight stock M39 Finn. almost 20 years ago now. Now the collection is M91's, M24's, M27's, M28's, M28-30' and M39's. It is an illness lol. They are amazing weapons. There are 8 models and years I do not or will not ever own. The rarest of the rare. Thank you for your video it is very accurate.
Is this a reupload? I feel like ya'll made a video exactly like this before...
I'm sure I have seen at least 3 or 4 videos about rare mosins on this channel.
John2903 *NOICE*
John2903 I swear the last one even had this same thumbnail! This is weird...
САLIMBO ГГГ POWER
Did you watch Grand Tour yet?
TheGoldenCaulk *OHHH YESSS*
where is stumpy? now THAT is a rare mosin lol
I love your passion sir. Keep it up!
Great informational video....
Enjoyed it very much, thanks.
What makes a Mosin rare?
The ability to hit anything. (I kid tho)
TheGoldenCaulk Heyyy, nice to see you here.
Azzalack Sup
TheGoldenCaulk triggered
accuracy is exactly Minute of Fascist. I've taken deer at 90 to 120 yards with my 1943 izmash. good cheap hunting rifle if you are hunting through medium scrub or mountain laurel.
Lol...how about the ability to hold the current non disputed record for the most kills by a single rifleman?
Shots fired at TFBTV calling it a garbage rod.
UnleashTheBlob Would rather it be called the Moist Nugget?
Awesome video after watching all of it i went out and purchased my first 91/30 it's a reverb but it's great to shoot incredibly accurate for 1941 rifle keep the videos coming God bless you and yours
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Excellent video. Watched the whole thing. Wish I would have taken your advice three years ago. Spot on.
me in 2021 buys a mosin for 400
Hello from 2024! I just spent 6 on one lmao
2024 just bought one for 250 and it came with 140 rounds from 1909 and a ww11 bandoleer
@@evanelton5386lucky bastard
@@evanelton5386bruh how did you hold the guy at gunpoint
I feel I have seen this video before. I would take the PSL behind him in a heartbeat.
As always very informative, and you need long vids for Nagants, thanks
Cool video! I collect Mosins and they are fun shooters. Found a 91/59 this past weekend. Back to the range I go
you guys talking about rare mosins while I'm just trying to a 90/31for under $250
wulf arrow I just got one for 225 and I’m thrilled
check out some gun shows when you get a chance just picked one up Couple weeks ago for 150
I got one for 250, all matching serial numbers, 1943, smooth af. Good gun
I just pick up a round receiver 1942 Russian with the laminate stock came with the tool kit the stripper clip pouch the original sling and 300rds of steel core all that as a package for 300 bucks
I have 2, one for $235 ishvek 1942 with a bayonet and cleaning kit and a $225 Tula 1938. I currently have my eyes on a $220 1923 Ishevek Mosin Nagant, both have matching numbers. They’re still out there you just got to keep looking.
What about the Polish M44? Those are probably THE nicest carbine Mosin to find, with exceptional triggers.
Got a really nice m-44 only has a little corrosion on the top of the bolt. Show all m44s are polish?
Romanian m44s are actually rarer
A lot of info but I appreciate the time you put into it and I did learn a considerable amounting,,thanks !
Excellent!! Very informative man. Thanks
None of those rifles are as rare as the American produced 91/30's made by Remington
UnitCrane514 I've seen one at a gun show wish I would have bought it but didn't know
reid spencer How much were they asking for it?
UnitCrane514 I found a bubba special Westinghouse mosin
UnitCrane514 those aren't even that rare.
I'm lucky enough to have one in excellent condition. BTW, it's an M91... the "30" stands for 1930.
You know you're early when the quality isn't even HD yet
really enjoyed this video, i have a 91/30 and love it and im planning on getting a few more. they are too much fun
Great great video....Love Mosins and a huge reason for my love comes from yours, well done sir!
What makes a Mosin rare? It can shoot straight AND the bolt is slick.
Hey Eric, where do you recommend buying cheap 7.62x54r ammo these days? Looking for spam cans and it seems no one has them anymore
Brennan Bennett Cheaperthandirt.com
Best place I have found is ammobot.com
It searches thousands of web sites and you can organize the postings by price or date posted and many other features.
That is the cheapest and most reliable place I have found.
Good Luck!
Wal-Mart Tulammo 7.62x54R. 148 grain non corrosive. 20 rounds for around $11.50
Don't buy surplus for two reasons. One it's a bitch to clean. 2 accuracy varies a lot with surplus. I buy tula for my shtf stockpile. Cheap plentiful and pretty good accuracy wise. Then for when I want to compete or just shoot better I buy mfs 180 grain... or brown/silver bear ammo. I also buy hornady hunting soft points too for hunting season. But yea if you just want cheap ammo buy tula
Academy usually has a can or two for around 150 or so
You are an excellent speaker. Every sentence is worth something and holds us to the next.
Most other videos bore me to death.
let me know if you want to sell one of yours lol thanks for the info Eric, been a subscriber since you started with Barry. I love the channel. Great job, bro.
I have a Russian 1908 marked m91
Hang on to it. Mine's a 1907. Good stuff.
What's that gun in the back that looks like a carbine UZI, with the wood stock?
Mag 7 shotgun
John Austin the one near the PSL?
that's a FAMAS
Tanny Wanny P90
John Austin That's a Mag 7. It's a cool little shotgun.
A great and informative video. No we definitely weren't falling asleep, its good to have someone give us a short and simple crash course on these old war horses. By the way it would be awesome if you could grab all the Enfield's you can and give us a run down on them :-)
Really liked the video !!! keep them coming !!!
I've been looking for a Mosin for a while. They aren't as easy to find as I thought...
Yea it took like 6 months to find a decent one where I'm at
XSilentDiscipleX It took me several months here in Indiana to find one for under $200. Look on Armslist and at gun shows.
XSilentDiscipleX do you live in New Hampshire?
harry joe No, I live on the other side of the country, haha. I'll find one eventually.
XSilentDiscipleX shame, local gun store has a crate of hex receivers for 229 each
How about doing in depth about .303 Enfield rifle!!!!!!
Awesome video! I saw the video of when you were opening up the cardboard boxes and wooden crates of M39’s at Classic Arms in Monroe. I loved that video! Those were some beautiful rifles. Also love the vids of you shooting yours at 600 yards! I would love to have a Finnish M39 Sako. Any idea where there are any available today. I think your video was 2017.
Eric, awesome video on the Mosin. I have always like the Mosin. I have 3. 2 rifles and one sniper. I they are refurbished. I want to get into collecting them, just start with one, but not a refurbished one. I plan on getting the book you spoke of by Doug Bowers in this video. You were asking for suggestions on future videos on the Mosin, I would say start with the first one, from Finland and only talk about this first this way you can cover this first rifle in-depth. Eric just my 2 cents, but again awesome video, I enjoy your insight into the different weapon platform you cover. Thanks, Don
I got a wierd one; a 1943 m9159 with the wierdest metal finishing I've seen. Every metal surface above the wood that is visible is machined to a near mirror polish and blued beautifully, but as soon as it goes to metal that's under wood, it is instantly super roughly machined and has a rough, dull finish. When disassembled and seen from the side, there is an obvious parting line where the finish goes from beautiful to ugly. Any Mosies out there maybe know why it might be like that?
Cody Moncrief My '42 91/59 is the same way. My guess is that it was done to speed up production during wartime.
Did he skip the m27, m28 and m28/30 Finns?
I think he glossed over them, (M28 owner
Me too. Glad to see the Finns get the recognition they deserve. Maybe he doesn't own a m27, m28 or m28/30
He speaks very highly of the M39s and for good reason, after all, it was the final incarnation that became the Finnish standardized rifle for a while. Its predecessors are definitely rarer though. The "aura" of my M28 is just awesome, to think, the M28 was a civil guard only rifle, there are no civilian copies, and shortly after the winter war began... My imagination runs wild when I hold it/shoot it.
If you wrote a book i'd definitely read it. Even if you just brought out a multiple part series to feed the more information hungry as you say.
I think there's more than a few people out here on your channel that would definitely sit through those videos!
Looking at getting my first Mosin now. Thanks for the info - as always ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️