@@miketonon7946 in my experience, have a '06 Ion that's received full synthetic since day 1 (exact brands though I couldn't say as the service receipts don't mention it) and after 5K miles the oil will still be in the safe zone, but there will be rather apparent oil burn still, especially if you know where the dipstick was at on the fill-up
that's what the car engine oil indicator is for. In case you use your car more often or drive in a hotter environment that burns oils faster. Of course, it helps keep your car in prime condition with a manual check, as you really have to change the oil immediately after the indicator light is on.
GM always said to wait for the oil light to come. I waited like it says and it never came on until 11k miles each time and then, I immediately got the oil changed. Come to find out, it ruined the timing chain on my Chevrolet Cruze because the oil needed to be changed more often. Cost me $2790! What is cheaper, an oil change every 5,000 miles or $2790 for a timing change? You do the math! Waiting that long always gummed up the engine! I’ll stick to every 5,000 miles!
Those lights are bull crap there’s no way the computer can tell the state of the oil. It turns the light on by guessing your driving habits. The best way to check your oil is to pull the dip stick it’s that simple.
The light on my wifes Honda Accord tells her to change the oil. The oil is still like new. I took over her Pontiac Torrent I dont plan on draining the oil. It has 65.000 miles and 7 years since the last oil drain. It has a Australian Jackmaster Classic on it. I gave up dirty oil and oil drains in 1963. I dont sell the Jackmaster Classic.
@@ryans413 The light comes on when the oil pressure sensor detects oil pressure lower than whatever they have it set to. The new ones that show a % oil life are probably more accurate.
Not exactly the most logical thing ever. Why spend money when you dont have to? Oils have only gotten better. The real debate is how much better synthetic is vs conventional. Probably not much. Go spend $20 on a conventional oil change at Walmart when your car needs it.
Yeah, I wouldn't listen to a guy who gets his oil changed at a shopping store like Walmart on the cheap. Go to a reliable place or do it yourself..Ive had 3 vehicles in my lifetime..all have made it past 200k without ANY engine problems..why? Because I change my oil EVERY 3000 miles...simple as that.
Depends on how the car is driven. Can be anywhere from 3,000-10,000 miles. Stop n go delivery cars change at 3,000 miles, whereas everyday highway driving cars change at 10,000 miles. Also depends on which kinda oil and filter.
nonturbo car on highway can go 15k miles with full synthetic. city turbo cars 7k miles synthetic, 3k cheap conventional oil. Refill every 3 months, Change 12 months or expired oil gauge.
The manufacturer does NOT have your best interest in mind. They just want it to last to the end of the warranty period. Extended oil changes and lifetime transmission fluids were all about lowering the "cost of ownership" I had a 2004 Toyota Camry and was following the maintenance schedule. Then at the 90,000 mile service, some services like transmission fluid change were now check fluid. When I questioned the change, they said to lower the "cost of ownership." Probably because Toyota's appeared expensive to maintain. Manufacturers really don't want you to keep your car 300,000 miles. They need to sell you a new car. 😅
Car makers are exposed to competition. If cars don't last, we buy some other cars. Not the one that don't last. The cars have to last. Which they do. Even with the long factory oil change intervals.
Realizing my kia optima is 8 years old now and not new I started doing my own changes again. Switched to walmart brand 10w-30 full synthetic. 5qt jug and walmart brand filter all for $18 and change, dont get cheaper than that. I set 5000 mile intervals but i am thinkijg about doing it every 7000 especially since I went full synthetic.
@@BmwMe-uh9sy Oh contrare; My local mechanic (not a dealership) charges about $50 for an oil change using conventional oil and a standard (not synthetic media) filter. If I do it myself I can put in synthetic oil for around $10 (3.6 qts) and around $8 for a Wix filter. So it's around 1/3 the price for a better oil change...
You do save a lot, and you can look at the color of the oil and determine when it needs to be changed, change it when its turning black. This is the proper way to do it, its literally one bolt and screw the filter on.
It us a scientific fact that most people don't drive in ideal conditions when commuting into most cities. Toyota cut their ti.e to 5k .Iles fro. 10k miles due to the seals failing. Weak seals and light oil. Helps gas mileage, but not on wear
Some dealers and manufacturers say you can go 1 or 2 oil changes without changing the filter. I always change the filter every time though. Mixing a dirty filter with clean oil never made sense to me.
3000 to 5000?!?! This isn't 1972 oil has come a long way. While a 3K oil change interval might have been necessary with the original group 3 oils. Group 4 and group 5 full synthetic can easily go five to seven thousand miles or more before significant oil degradation occurs.
While I already knew this, I have always changed mine more often than needed. It saves problems in the long run and I often put 500,000 to 800,000 km on my engines before changing vehicals.
My daily driver is a 1987 Toyota with it's original engine with over 1.5million km on it and it still drives without any problems as I change my oil every 7500km with full synthetic oils, cost me $20 to change the oil, 15 for the oil and 4 for the filter.
My records are 900 000km on a saturn, and 500 000km on a chevy malibu. Now we have 2 volvos and we know more about maintenance so these beauts are going to break 1 million i'm sure of it. I also change oil more often than needed.
+Big Bick Wow, that is the record. How did you do that - I want some insight on this one. My friend did over 700k km on Matrix driving as a courier - 400, 600 km a day. 1.5 mln km - when most fail to do 300k km.
@@ainzooalgown7589 WHAT OIL BRAND YOU USE? I HAVE 98 4 RUNNER 3.4 ENGINE AND I WOULD USE SYNTHETIC OIL TO KEEP IT IN GOOD CONDITION THANKS IN ADVANCE ✌
GM oil indicators are very accurate. I've done oil analysis on my Buick Regal Turbo when the indicator showed 10% left at the 1 year point. The oil analysis showed the oil was still good.
Yep and that's actually quite easy to do, as the computer knows exactly at what RPM and how long with how much load at what temps and how much idle time the engine was operated. The computer knows basically ALL factors which age the oil.
thats just not true. most new cars have whats called a oil life monitor. it essentially uses a laser and a sensor to see how transparent your oil is. when your oil stops letting any light through the sensor goes off and tells you your oil has degraded. most new cars will have them and they will combine that data with historical heat data along with extrapolating your mpg to get a rough estimation of engine friction. all these data points go to your computer which can get a pretty good estimation of oil health. so yes there is an "oil change monitoring system" on most newer cars. however you really should be changing your oil well before any of these sensors on your computer detects the oil being bad. once youve hit that point youre already damaging your engine. new cars track all the data they get over time and know something is wrong when the data its currently getting is a certain percentage different than its historical average
I hate Teslas, and the snooty jerks behind their wheels. You aren't saving the world, because the lithium has to be mined, then shipped overseas in a ship that uses oil for fuel.
it depends on the driving environment too. if you live in a hot & dusty place w/ continuous stop and go traffic day in and day out (like i do), then you need to replace your oil more frequently.
Extended oil change intervals are due to government regulations imposed on new car manufactures and are driven by the environmental concerns and not the wear concerns. So, of course the owner's manual will reflect that. The new car dealerships are branded independent businesses and can recommend what they feel is best for the engine.
@@flycatchful I remember another video comment section where someone thought that Subaru's PZEV actually meant partially zero emission, as in out the tailpipe. When I informed him that it only referred to the evaporative emission system's superior quality that allowed them to legally "market" it as a partially zero emission vehicle, he told me I was spreading misinformation. So may folks don't realize just how much bureaucracy is happening with our government agencies.
I owned a 1972 442 with a 455 that had dual exhausts and the W-31 camshaft. I changed the oil every 3 months. I ran it from 1971 to 2000. It eventually actually fell apart because of rust, But the engine was running just as good at that point as the day I got it.
Have changed my own oil every 3,000 miles. I just retired my 1999 GMC Safari van with the 4.3 ltr. V6 with the odometer reading of 538K miles. I did switch oil over to 'high mileage full synthetic' about 10 years ago. The internals of the engine have never been serviced or rebuilt, except a distributor replacement 4 years ago.
I have never seen an engine have a catastrophic failure because the car’s owner overcharged the oil. The opposite in not true. Change your oil based on mileage not time.
That's not entirely true - just going off mileage. I drive my RV 2 k miles a year, sometimes less. I still change it every year. This is especially true if it just sits majority of the time, humid weather and oxidization breaks down oil.
@@markusallport1276 No, Stop and go short trip driving is hard on oils. Ans if just let the car sit for months condensation will form in the oil. This is not good
Every gas up because you want to see how much of the full tank of gas went to your engine oil. There is a reason why the Owners manual also suggests that.
As a mechanic, all I can say is.. IT DEPENDS. If you do alot of extended highway driving you can go longer on oil changes(no more than 10000 miles) If you short trip or do alot of in town driving then definitely change sooner(3000 miles). You also have to keep in mind the quality of the oil filter which is just as important if not MORE important than the oil. Oil is tightly regulated and tested and most oils perform really well, filters not so much .Do not put quality oil in your car with a cheap filter. Filter quality roughly matches price so its difficult to go wrong. The goal is to change the oil when it reaches below an optimum performance level. Better to change sooner than later. Why risk pushing the oil past its limit?
I have a 2013 Camry 2.5 liter 4 cylinder. The manual says every 10k with 0w20. I change it every 7k. I drive about 80% highway miles and very easy on the pedal. In your professional opinion is there any reason that would hurt the car in the long run? I’ve heard some mechanics say I should change every 5k just to be safe but 7k seems to work well for me so far. I plan to drive it til the wheels fall off
@@scottg429 nah ur doing good. If h like slamming the pedal once in a while it’s still good even at that 7k interval. I only did 3k miles in 7 months on my Mazda 6 and I like to floor the pedal here and there to feel the performance or just to avoid thick carbon build ups since it’s a gdi engine but I always run 87 from Mobil it’s more expensive than bp and stuff but I noticed with my car mobil doesn’t give off a burning smell through my vents when I floor it while bp shell and others do. I was actually kinda disappointed shell wasn’t as good in my car since they have a good reputation with v8 cars and stuff
@@scottg429 youre asking a COMPLETE stranger on the INTERNET a question ... he may or may not even be a mechanic, ask around in person for these types of questions
Extreme temps, stop and go, dusty conditions, frequent trips under 10 kms, hard driving, etc. are all severe duty. Definitely don't go a full year on an oil change if you're driving in these types of conditions.
If you spend an excessive amount of time idling (especially with a cold engine) or drive a lot of short trips without hitting full engine temperature you should definitely change the oil more frequently.
Very interesting. However, something about swapping out the black oil for amber oil makes me feel good inside even though my vehicle is low mileage. I do it myself so it's not a big expense. Keep up the great work!
There is an advantage: you know that the drain plug was left out long enough, to drip out the last little bit of dirty oil, so you're not just contaminating the new oil with the debris in the bottom of the oil pan. It really helps, if you can let it finish dripping out, before putting the plug back in, and filling with new oil. Another trick, is to pour 1/2 liter of clean oil in, just to flush the last little bit of dirty oil out of the bottom of the oil pan.
I use 1 jack stand on each side and 1 jack per side (touching but not supporting) as a backup. I also shake the crap out of the car before I get under to make sure it's not shifting on me.
The manufacturer only warranties the powertrain for 60,000 miles. Following the oil life monitor will ensure the powertrain at least makes it this far. I could not say how many engines I've seen have an internal lubricated part failure at about 100k. When quizzing the customer about oil changes, "when the car told me to". Keep your oil clean it's less expensive than a new engine.
My brother is a red sealed mechanic and has been working on vehicles for over 7 years straight to this point. He told me change the oil every 5000-6000km even if it’s synthetic. The filter stops working after 5000 even if the oil is still good for a bit the filter stops
For me it just feels good to change my own oil! I know it was done right at a reasonable price. I use the oil and filter that I want to use. If I use any shady tactics, I'm only cheating myself. There's no driving away from the oil change wondering if they REALLY changed your oil or just charged you for it. I've always changed it based on the what the car manual says with no problems.
Had the same feeling when I would pay to get my oil changed. Now I do it myself and use a fumoto valve which almost makes it enjoyable. On my GX460 the manual states oil change at 10,000 miles or every year. I do it every 6 months or every 4500 because I drive mostly street and I plan on keeping it till long term. With good maintenance the GX is known to get 400k before its done. It will probably out live me.
I have never spent a nickel having someone else change my oil. I've changed oil on about 60 vehicles that I've driven in my 52 years of driving. I know it was done right. in fact I've never spent more than $400.00 total having someone else repair these vehicles (Cars trucks, tractors, combines, swathers etc.)
After driving 6000km my oil is already dark, and I usually change it, can't imagine driving up to 16,000km on the same oil.. And I use high mileage full synthetic oil. 202,000km on my 2007 Lexus IS250 AWD, still running strong.
Your engine has low tension rings. You're getting a lot of blow-by that is contaminating the oil. It's a well known problem with that engine. Often has premature failure.
The oil change recommendation from the manufacturer is their best engineered estimate when they design and build that particular engine. After some time, inherent issues with particular engines sometimes become apparent to dealers and mechanics. My 2014 Ford 5.4 Liter Triton V8 engine is now known to have a number of issues related to oil condition. The engine is known to have excellent longevity if oil is changed more frequently than recommended. It's also known to destroy itself if oil changes are pushed beyond the manufacturer's recommended change period.
Every 3,000 miles engine oil, 30,000 gear oil for our Alaska vehicles. They don't use salt (too cold) so vehicles can last many decades. DYI and it is inexpensive and our vehicles all run over 200,000 miles.
I agree. If you know how much oil there is in the crank case and filter, multiply that by 200. When you've burned 200 times the volume of fuel as the volume of oil, that's when to change. If the engine does a lot of idling, or, heavy towing, it definitely needs more frequent changing, than an engine that runs on the highway smooth and easy. Distance doesn't matter, it's work, which is closely related to the amount of fuel the engine consumes.(much more accurate!)
Most engines now days are GDI, the pressure in the cylinders of GDI engines is 50-100x greater than port injected engines. I don’t care what the manual says, take apart an engine at 150k miles that has had the oil changed once a year with regular driving, and compare it to a motor with oil changed ever 5k, trust me you will see a difference.
Agreed. There are two types of driving normal and severe. Google weather you drive insevere conditions and generally should be changing it every 3000 miles.
Change your oil every 5,000 miles / 6 months regardless of what the manual says. The 10k intervals are the minimum spec the engineers came up with for the "lifetime" of the vehicle, which by the engineers' standards is typically defined as 120k miles. The extended oil changes are part of a push for environmental consciousness, but they have no concerns for the longevity of your car's engine.
@@autobotavengerfireballxl5339 The oil also fails. Oils build up carbon and tiny metal deposits through going through the engine, some of which can bypass the filter. Not to mention oxidisation....
@@autobotavengerfireballxl5339 Not at all. Sludge as well as carbon deposits can create blockages in various internal systems. Should the filter get clogged with this crap, some cars have technology built in to bypass the filter so the engine still receives some oil (which in your car, with unchanged oil, will be dirty and contaminated).
You can tell a difference in performance and fuel use when you change the oil. Huge difference. I’m a self employed truck driver and I can tell a difference on my rig. And using the right oil on your vehicle matters
waaaay cooler temperatures, even on my 14 mustang gt, an entire 20 degrees c, cooler for first 2000 miles before it starts to gradually drop, or if i push the vehicle to its limits often itll go down after 1k. changing at 3k-4k miles really does make a difference in increasing the longevity of the engines life span
I've been working as a mechanic for over 20 years and without question keeping your oil clean by changing it at least every 5000 miles will drastically extend the life of your engine and avoid all types of related problems that can occur from running dirty oil that can cost you thousands in repairs. I actually use some great car management software www.lonewolf-software.com/automotivewolf.htm to track the maintenance schedules on my own personal vehicles so I don;t forget myself to change the oil, filters and and inspect certain components periodically. Change your oil regularly and you will avoid needless problems.
I'm a mechanic as well, running a family shop with 3 mechanics in our family, with over a hundred years experience combined , and I couldn't agree more! I just replaced an engine last week where the customer forgot to change his oil. He spent $6k.
No need to change oil often. I have a 96 corolla I've owned from new with 532,000kms. I have changed my oil only 5x in its life once every 100,000kms. Had no issues whatsoever. I have saved thousands on oil and filters!
@@sameuljones5496 haha now I understand. A 90's Corolla is probably one of the most solid and reliable cars ever built. No modern vehicle would last with 100K oil changes......
I'm a mechanic also, and totally agree with you. My vehicle has a few hundred thousand miles (and 19 years old) . You other mechanics probably have something similar. People just don't like spending money on having their car run good, but have no problem paying for leather, radios and rims.
I am a bit old school when I went synthetic I went all the way up to 4000 miles. I know it cost me quite a bit over the life of the vehicle and I am good with that. Currently I have a small local mechanic doing the work. If he finds something wrong we fix it. The chain establishment I went to before had a lot of recommendations for service. You kind of had to sort through them. My hemi engine has small oil galleries and is known for burning out lifter rollers and eating cans. $1500 over the life of my truck seems cheap.
Also some engines just make oil a lot dirtier a lot faster than others. I am doing 5k full synthetic oil change intervals on my prius and it's barely even browned when it comes out.
Manufacturer recommendation is to get you through the warranty period. If you wanna keep your car much longer change the oil every 5000 miles or once a year.
I think it's more accurate to change the oil based on the quantity of fuel used, divided by the number of quarts/liters the crank case holds. When you've burned 200 times more fuel than the volume of oil in the crank case, that's when to change. The reason for this is, how the engine is used. If you're pulling a horse trailer up hills, the engine is doing much more work, burning more fuel, than if you're just cruising smooth and easy down a motorway. In the winter, the oil has much more of a tendency to condense water, than in the summer, just because it's cold. However, your fuel efficiency is much less, than in the summer, prompting more frequent oil changes, which, under those conditions is actually necessary! If you have a hybrid, which gets~21 Kilometers per liter(~50 MPG), because it holds ~4 liters of oil, you can actually go about 10,000 miles,(16,000 Kilometers) between changes. In winter conditions, or heavy in-town driving, the mileage is considerably less, putting the oil change interval closer to 10,000 Km(6,250 miles). the "Maintenance required" light comes on every 5,000 miles(8,000 Km). If the car is used for a taxi or other ride service, this is a very reasonable interval, but not a panic, if the light comes on while on a road trip. Just finish the trip, and change as soon as possible, the engine will be fine. MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THE OIL LEVEL REGULARLY!!! The same holds true, for a four wheel drive truck, which with it's big-block V-8 engine, may only get 15 miles per gallon.(6.3 Km per liter). The crank case holds approximately 6 liters. That puts the oil change interval close to 7,560 Km.(4,725 miles). very reasonable for a heavy duty engine. If run hard, less distance between changes, more, if driven smooth and easy. no matter what, the thing contaminating the oil, is the quantity of fuel consumed by the engine, no matter what kind of engine it is, and it doesn't really matter how it's run, it will get the necessary maintenance, without spending too much on oil changes.
5,000 miles with full synthetic oil and a QUALITY oil filter (Mobil 1, etc) Don’t forget to change transmission fluid and coolant. Trans fluid every 30,000 miles or so, coolant every 50,000
For my car, a 2017 Versa, they recommend changing the full synthetic oil every 5000 miles or six months, whichever comes first. I change mine between 5k and 6k miles, which is roughly 3 months, with my driving. I have a 35 minute commute to work.
Sorry but having owned or leased at least 30 vehicles over 45 years I still say changing oil is one of the most single beneficial things you can do to your vehicle no matter what the owners manual says. Maybe since I do it myself it makes it easy and much cheaper than taking it in to the shop. They quote $100 to change oil ?? I do it for $20 with filter and good quality oil. I still change oil and filter around 6-7 thousand miles. Years ago I used to change it every 3000 as suggested. My oldest car is a 1992 Honda Prelude.
@@MrDoccus I agree. At the end of the day, if someone plans to keep the car until the wheels fall off, just change the oil regularly. Oil is cheap compared to the cost of an engine...
Hey, you have it exactly right, and yes it may pollute more. But which is cheaper, $20 bucks worth of oil and filter, or $5,000 for a replacement engine? Some dealerships put a sticker on your car and don't do the work!
@@stevenpdxedu And how often does that really happen? I'm not talking about someone leaving the same oil in an engine for decades, but those who change it say every two years or 15,000 km. Where is the actual data showing that those people are having to replace engines?
You can look at it either way. The mechanics want you to come into the shop more often so they will tell you to change the oil more often. The car companies on the side of selling more cars are going to want you to drive as long as possible so you ruin your engine and need a new car sooner. Also, I'm sure car companies get incentives for being more "environmentally friendly" by using oil more efficiently. Are they actually making the engines more efficient or just stretching the length of time that they recommend oil changes?
Here’s the plot twist: the manufacturers MAY have recommended longer intervals to... slowly run down parts that would need replacing and are sold by... them? I change my own oil and I’ve to say that even after half the recommended interval, the oil’s totally black and engine needs a lot of de-carbonning. I’d rather spend on oil than engine parts.
@@Jawsjawsjawsrg oil is made to lubricate and clean the engine...black oil means dirt in the engine that the oil filter couldn't catch.....why would u want excess dirt in any engine that might cause excess wear
Let's not forget people don't listen to your engineers manual when it comes to premium gasoline either . It burns longer, lasts longer and burns cleaner and also will contain the best ammount of detergents and additives to help carbon build up in your engine as well
The owner’s manual logic is to give you the cheapest maintenance cost for the duration of the warranty. The more often you change your oil the better for the longevity of the engine.
Thats not logical. Even during duration of the warranty oil change is not free, the owner pays for it. So it would be in the interest of the carmaker that you change oil often, to lower their risk that they have to pay for an engine malfunction during warranty. Nevertheless they say: "Naaa, no need. Just wait until the car tells you." Why would they do that?
@@Slazlo-Brovnik the logic is that they suggest to push the oil change to larger interval to lessen the cost of ownership. That’s marketing strategy. The engine may (likely will) suffer but it will not break until later after the warranty is over (so they will not be responsible for the repair). Any mechanic will tell that pushing the oil change is a bad idea. Oil quality (good lubrification) is the most important thing for an engine.
@@andrebombardier3021 Well ... nope. 1. Costs for an oil change are actually not that high. If somebody owns a 80.000€ BMW 530x-drive, where the mandatory inspection is 200€ without oil change already - then the about 60€ for an oil change is just nothing. Also I don't know about FIAT or Chrysler or so, but BMW, AUDI or especially Mercedes have a reputation to loose. If they actually think that longer intervals would ruin their engines after warranty - they just wont do it. As a matter of fact engine failures after warranty (but otherwise not too old cars) are at least in Europe often covered by Goodwill payments. VW e.g. has formalized process where you can ask them if they at least cover part of the costs. If they could avoid that by shorter intervals - for which they do NOT pay - they would do that. 2. In Europe longer oil change intervals are normal. I know of nobody which does such short intervals. Even my garage does not recommend it, although the make money out of it. What we may do is make an oil change as soon as the indicator warns the first time which is usually 1000- 1500 km ahead, or right after buying a used car etc., sure. Basically a full inspection yearly incl. oil and filter change is the normal procedure. And it's not that we have lower engine life in Europe AFAIK. 3. Mechanics wich want your money tell you that. The rest tells you, that listening to the indicator or do it every 12 months is fine. They will also tell you, that Oil technology has come a long way in the last 20 years or so, and they will tell you to use fully synthetic oil. (Note; "HC-Synthesis" is *not* fully synthetic oil) I am not saying you should drive 20,000 km stopp and go in heavy city traffic with the same oil and just top it off or the like. But this "all 6months, all 8000 km" is just money grubbing.
PJ Monster that's the price now in Canada at a typical dealership. Remember, that dealers have high overheads and lots of service bays to operate. They need to pay the electricity, rent, pay the secretary , employees, etc. All of those costs are included in your oil change. That's why your always better off saving money and doing it yourself.
Let’s say your vehicle takes 8 L of full synthetic to meet manufacturers spec. Plus oil filter and labour then environmental fee and taxes. That’s $150. in my world and a bargain at that.
There is NOTHING wrong with changing oil more often than needed. Clean, fresh oil will always help protect against wear better than filthy, carbon laden oil.
I change my oil every 6 months which is roughly every 3000 miles. Probably too often but I do it myself, it's easy, and I plan to keep the car a long time. Hoping it will outlive me 😃
Every car I have owned,changed the oil every 5000 kms. I have always got 350,000 kms plus out engines,good gas mileage for the life of engine,and no major break down. PLUS I DO THEM MYSELF FOR QUARTER THE PRICE
I know having a Volkswagen Golf with 410,000 km on the original engine with oil changed half as many times as yours is a waste of money. The original engine which is still running smoothly and efficiently.
I recently took my Honda CR-V into the dealership for an oil change. They looked and told me I was wasting my money, and to go at least another 2,000 miles before I had it changed. I did. The service writer took the time to reassure me that changing every 5,000 miles was unnecessary. That's why I get stuff done there.
It depends on the driving conditions. If a person only drives 10k miles per year and takes frequent short trips (less than 5 miles)? You're going to destroy the engine doing 10k oil changes.
I wouldn't believe either one. Manufacturers don't want you driving the same vehicle for a decade and dealerships give false information to see you more often to sell you more crap plus make a little on the frequent oil changes. I would change it every 5-6k miles. Oil filters even the great ones I can't imagine how effective they can be for that long. Especially your oil.
You're 100% correct I have a clean 1998 Toyota Camry le and every time I go to the Toyota dealership for parts I get the impression that they don't like it when I tell them how good the car runs and that I'm planning to keep it for another 20 years this 4th generation Camry's can go for at least 400 thousand miles if you know how to do the preventive maintenance yourself and changing the oil every 4 months or 4 thousand miles only cost 40 dollars and that includes a genuine Toyota oil filter and quality full synthetic oil and no worries about oil leaks this is the easiest car to work on easy access to anything you need to repair I keep all my fluids clean engine oil, transmission fluid , power steering fluid, brake fluid, and the anti freeze. All this simple preventive maintenance is the key my car has 119 thousand miles and it still runs like brand new. And as much as I like my Toyota Camry le I know they're not making them like they used too.
I taught Automotive Technology for 17 years and I currently work at a dealership as a service writer. I wouldn't tell you to do anything other than what the owner's manual tells you. If you're changing your oil more often, good for you. You're doing your part in keeping the economy going. Keep it up. I'll keep the money that would be spent on your oil change interval for extra parts on my project car.
@@tomhill106 You are one the few good men out there my friend. I can't tell you how many times dealerships have told me something needs to be replaced when there wasn't anything wrong with what they said needed to be repaired. I change my oil at those intervals not before or after. Not everything is in the owners manual tho. Thats the problem I have... I know it's a no-no to change your transmission fluid on a mechanical transmission. But i heard you are supposed to change mine in my Honda Civic CVT after 45,000? Does that sound, right? I know enough about cars to fix, repair and replace but not the science behind it all, especially that.
@@awakeandalive4248 My 14 Honda Civic is at 52,000 miles now. Runs great. The only thing I had to do is replace the stock battery, and do an alignment, which I heard isn't surprising. Other than that it's all good.
Not gonna trust the life of my $48k car to an 8min "research" segment by CBC. Whether I'm overspending at 5000km oil changes...I'd sooner do that than face expensive repair bills farther down the road. It's called peace of mind. I worked 12yrs for the City and noticed they change the oil in their entire fleet every 5000kms - and I know for fact their 4cyl Ford Escapes went 300,000kms of city driving without major motor work.
@@Eric-tq3vn well just take off the filter and put a new one on and top of the lost oil I've done it on my Nissan Titan mainly because I have the filter off a Honda Civic literally.
Synthetic oil can last a very long time. The 3k mile rule was when older vehicles used conventional. Dealers and shops are all about money and they will always recommend an oil change. Buy a tool set and do the oil changes yourself every 4-7k miles.
Also add to that the oil today in engineered to be better and additives are added to help keep the engine cleaner that back in the 70's, 80's and before. Synthetic oils today are so advanced and keep your engine running way better than expected and dealerships don't like using it for the simple fact that you CAN go longer between changes as before, and they bawk when you request it. I change my own oil and have never had a problem.
Ahmed Mansoor change oil filter every 5000 use synthetic ,change transmission fluid annually and power steering ,brake fluid . If you live in rust belt get oil undercoating annually the cars last great . Parts are dirt cheap especially after market just did my brakes $ 27.99 for front pads and alignment kit rear $17 .99+ 2 rotors $ 29 each very cheap try that on a foreign car especially European lolololol
Changing oil more often than recommended will only make your engine last longer. It's like having a fesh oil all the time. No crud or deposit in the engine. Engine running smooth all year long. Oil is cheaper than a new engine. Original owner of 2002 Toyota Celica with 379k+ miles and runs like a clock.
I change oil once a year, i used synthetic for longer change interval, ive got only 3thou kms a year, i notice ordinary oil when 11months longer engine gets roughness
Oil that's dark doesn't mean it's bad. I've used Mobil 1 or Walmart Supertech with changes every 10k. All of my cars go 200k without any engine wear issues.
@@pbaker7160 10k miles oil changes will ruin your engine if you drive mostly in the city/metro area which is consider servere conditions. 10k miles is fine if you drive 90% highway miles on longer trips and no heavy traffic.
Good to know about the oil analysis in Brampton. I've had our Subaru analyzed at 10000km and roughly 9 months and it's got good life left in the oil The biggest issue in newer engines is direct Injection and fuel dilution. The newer oil specs are built towards handling the extra soot and fuel......and the wear metals still seem quite low despite 2-3% fuel.
the owner's manual is designed to get you out of warranty and have your vehicle blow up so you purchase a new one. so changing your oil once a year every 16,000 with conventional will get you to 160000 but after that your engines extremely worn out.but now it's in the best interest of the manufacturer of your vehicles going and you're looking at them to buy a new one.
Very true...... These people are full of` BS........ If you change your oil at 6200 miles or once a year, you will buy more vehicles in the long run..... The manufacture is in the business of selling vehicles, if you change your oil every 3000 to 4000 miles, you will buy fewer cars and the one's you buy will last longer... Oil changes are the cheapest maint you can do for longevity of the engine.... I do my own full synthetic oil and filter changes every 3000 miles, I have 339,971 miles on my 1995 F150 with 5.0 V8.... I got 200,000 miles out of the automatic by changing its oil every 25,000 miles.... Now its rebuilt with 139,971 miles on it.....
This is a fact. Modern engines with thin oil (for fuel efficiency and not engine longevity pushed by the EU and other anticonsumer groups) will not last long unless u check and change your oil every 5K miles or 6 months. The 10K miles is a bean counter number made up for low cost of ownership to make it look like your car never needs service and creates really lazy car owners and angry owners when they find out that their engine burns oil after the warranty expires.
Exactly, from all over the world it seems modern vehicles are orientated towards fuel efficiency rather then anything else, even with individual regulation of different countries are the car manufactures are pushing towards this tend more and more. Even when I go visit my local mechanic his also stating the amount of new cars that are out of warranty is high, nearly exceeding the older models of vehicles that he has to fix that did not have these regulations in force.
If you are driving anything with variable timing you should change it every 3000 miles. The manufacturer recommendation is to get it out of the warranty period and to keep the advertised annual cost of ownership low. All three of the domestic manufacturers have gone through this issue with their variable timing engines. Massive expensive repairs to engines just out of warranty, but well short of their expected life. Same issue with their lifetime transmission fluid. It gets the car out of the warranty period, but gets very marginal after that.
It makes sense to me that the manufacturer is going to tell you how to economically keep your engine running through the warranty period only. I like to keep cars for about double that. That said, I use full synthetic and change at 4000-5000 miles. My 2012 Toyota Sienna just passed 194,000, it has never had any engine work done, and it still shows almost no change on the dipstick between changes. It would be interesting to know if others are getting this kind of engine life changing oil less often, or using conventional oil.
I have a 2006 Sion xB with 300200 miles. I bought it new and I've done all the maintenance myself. I drive my car to work 50miles one way, no traffic in the morning and heavy traffic at 5pm. It has been a very reliable car. I drive it like I stole it.
You should be changing your oil AND filter every 6500-8000km period. Ignore the manufacturer specified interval as it’s too long - unless you want to replace your engine the day after your warranty expires! Driving in Canada, particularly in winter, is actually considered “severe driving conditions”. Change your coolant and transmission fluid regularly too - as in every 40000km.
I have a GDI engine. I go by the owners manual severe usage interval, which is 3500 miles (5600km). I use 5w30 full synthetic oil. I change it myself. Costs me about $21 USD.
This is rather funny! Being a heavy line tech for almost 30 years I’ve changed a LOT of engines in all makes and models …majority of the time due to longer than normal oil change intervals! As most engines get older and miles accumulate , the engines wear out slowly. I’ve always stated it’s better to change the oil sooner than later because you don’t want to wait till the oil is broken down to a point to cause excessive engine wear. Most engine wear happens on cold start up, when the oil is its thickest, as the oil breaks down it will tend to to gel up (sludge) and be difficult for the oil to flow to critical parts of the engine etc damaging engine parts. Even my own vehicles I’ve seen the affects of going extended periods without changing the oil…..oil consumption, engine rattles on start up and so on! Your not polluting the earth if you recycle the oil properly and your saving money by extending engine life! Every engine is different and driving habits can affect oil life. Short trips need more frequent oil changes vs highway driving ….a cold engine runs a little more rich with fuel than at operating temps …in which diluting the oil slowly…..contaminating the engine faster with shorter trips. Synthetic oils have helped extend oil change intervals cause they don’t tend to sludge but can still get very contaminated and cause engine damage with extended intervals. Imo it’s not worth the expense waiting to get that very last mile out of an oil change …..like the oil analysis expert said there’s no way to no how much more time on the oil they were testing. 5000 miles or 6 months is a good baseline to go by for the average person.
Have you got any evidence that changing your oil every 10k miles damages the engine? My car (KIA) has a seven year manufacturers/100k miles warranty and they say to change your oil every 10k miles/once a year whichever comes first. Seems odd to me that KIA would offer such a long warranty if that was the case.
@@collinslfc Yes. For one most average people never check their oil. A lot of older cars as mentioned above will burn or leak oil in between changes. So, if you burn a little oil and dont check it at all going 10k miles between changes as opposed to say 5k miles gives it a lot more time to burn or leak enough oil to cause serious damage. Not to mention how dirty and thick oil becomes after 10k miles. Your just dumb. Hope all your engines blow
@@KSI_Revelations *You're just dumb. I thought I should correct your grammar on that part, calling someone "dumb" whilst not knowing the differences between "you're" and "your" in the same sentence doesn't come across too well on your part. And it does seem a tad extreme to wish the misfortune of having an engine blow on somebody you don't know, why would you wish that on somebody? Anyway I digress, I don't know why you're calling me dumb. I merely asked for evidence that changing engine oil at 10k miles intervals is damaging to the engine as the OP claimed. I cited my car manufacturers maintenance schedule which states to change engine oil every 10k miles/once per year and this is what the owner must adhere too in order to maintain a 7 year/100k miles warranty that KIA give on all their new cars and have done for many years (at least on their cars sold in the UK anyway). That's a fact and it seems very odd and bad business decision that KIA would offer this if 10k miles oil changes was damaging to an engine. But if you want to call KIA engineers "dumb" then go ahead, but that's not my problem. My six year old car is still under warranty and working perfectly fine with a 10k miles/once per year oil change.
as a general rule I never go over 5,000 miles on my oil changes. modern oils today yes they can go up to a year or up to 20,000 miles whichever comes first but I can tell you from first hand experience I've seen the inside of engines that have had these extended OCIs they're usually caked with sludge and varnish and are very dark on the inside. Engines that have their oil changed more frequently are very clean on the inside and these extended oil change intervals are a big reason why most modern vehicles the engines usually can't go over 150,000 miles before they need major repair. things you need to consider when you do extended oil changes is over time your motor oil gets contaminated with fuel and over time it gets contaminated with moisture from condensation. these two things lower the engine oils total Base number and over time it can make your oil become acidic and it can lose its ability to lubricate your engine. a new engine is roughly $10,000 versus between 60 to $100 every 3 to 5 months for an oil change which one is worth it to you?
Changing oil should NOT be based on a “time period” ( like every year) but by how many “miles” have been put on the car since the last change. I drive about 8,000 miles a year. My friend drives about 25,000 a year. Certainly he would need a oil change more often than I would. The best policy is to change your oil every 4 to 5 thousand miles, regardless of how much “time” has passed. I personally change my own oil every 3,000 because I drive an older model, a 1999 Volvo V70 XC 2.4L w/turbo. It has 240,478 miles on it. It doesn’t burn or leak any oil. It never breaks down. All I’ve ever done is replace things that wear out, belts, tires, spark plugs, bulbs, etc. Love my Volvo.
Keep in mind that the quality of the oil will make a big difference on when to change it. Once the oil gets dirty and leaves deposits it's hard to get them out.
The oil change intervals really depends on the type of engine. If you have a GDI engine (Direct Injection) you'll likely want to change the oil every 5000 miles or 6 months if you take frequent short trips in the car. Fuel dilution is a real issue in these engines and it can cause real problems long term. Fuel dilution is when you drive short trips frequently and the GDI engine doesn't warm up enough to burn off the excess fuel getting into the oil via blow by in the cylinders. When a GDI engine is cold, fuel seeps into the oil from blow by during combustion. Fuel in the oil can destroy the effectiveness of even the best Full Synthetic oil in a relatively short period of time. One way to help remedy this issue is to drive the car for more than 30-40 min to give the engine time to burn off the excess fuel in the motor oil.
had a 2008 corolla since new - since i do around 70 highway 30 city - i change the oil between 5 k - 7k miles with the cheapest regular motor oil or 6 months, whichever comes first - never had an issue for 267k miles until i wrecked it
Not the ultra synthetic filter by fram it’s expensive for a reason . One of the best on the market . But rest of fram tough guard , high mileage and e core are trash paper end caps 🧢
@@FranklinHicks-qs4gs Toilet paper rolls are actually a very good bypass filter.(Frantz)The rolls won't allow enough flow, to replace the normal filter. it is only used as a micron filter, to supplement the spin-on filter.
Why the Hell would you take a chance on the 2nd most expensive thing you own, oil change very cheap if you do it yourself. 6 months 5k miles and your engine will last a very long time.
my 12 yr old toyota taco has 97K miles....have used synthetic oil and bosch filters--change oil every 8K miles.....haven't leaked/burned a drop of oil for 12 yrs.....have never had to add oil between changes....only drive about 2K mi/yr around town and do a 6K mile road trip every year....most of my miles are freeway 65-75mph.....
@@edvinneluis2635 wrong......synthetic oil and high qual filters don't require wasting money changing oil every 3-5K miles like the "old days".....syn oil and good quality filters cost more, so if ya change your own oil, it's not much of a $ savings, just labor (1 change vs 2)....if done at a shop, syn cheaper--less labor costs....for the record, have been driving toyotas for 30 yrs (18 yrs-'89 4-runner and 12 yrs on my taco)...i did change oil on my 4-runner every 4K miles on average, since i was using oil, not synthetic....after about 12-14 yrs with 4-runner, did need to add about 1/2 qt between changes.....
Scottybob Videopants well sir just to be clear i was talking about the toyota corolla or prizm 1.8 engine from 98 to 01 that engine loves to burn oil and have misfires like crazy. Google it.
Just check your oil dipstick to see the condition, when the oil looks dirty change it to prevent premature wear on your engine. There’s metal on metal contact and there will be metal particulate in the oil after some use which will hence cause more wear if you do not change it.
Amsoil (synthetic) advertises 25k for oil change with their 25k oil filter. I have used since 2001 and really like it. I drive 15k/year & change oil yearly. Works for me.
trigga ville I go about 4K oil change intervals. The owners guide for my 5.4 3 valve says every 10k. I think it's better safe than sorry. I have 242,xxx on my truck and it runs like a champ. I also use 10w40. I'll stick with what works best for me.
Maybe his car is Toyota because I have Toyota hiace its 205,000 km. I change my oil, oil filter and air filter every 5000 km and our van it feels like brand new.
@@MexicoTijuana741 Does not matter what car he's got as long as you change you're oil regularly then you're car will last as long as his. On the other hand, most Japanese cars like Hondas, Toyotas, Nissans and you're Hyundais will definitely reach over 300k miles while youre american cars most but not all are designed to break down after the first 100k miles and will require for you to bring you're car in to have it fixed, it's designed that way so they can make revenue.
BMW - and Audi - are sometimes criticized by diligent mechanics and owners for putting up 10,000 mils OCI. Many owners who care about their cars change it every 5k-6k.
For everyone who thinks that oil lasts 20k miles or once a year needs to remember - oil is cheap, engines are not
straight fact...
Exactly!!!
depends on the car
i know that in some european cars like mercedes it’s recommended that it’s changed every 20k miles
pc master apek thats why its not reliable
For anyone that’s thinking “oh hey I don’t have to change my oil for a year” please do not forget to check your oil level between intervals
Yep. Even in an engine that burns little oil, it will still burn enough in that timespan.
Especially if you've got a Subaru or an Audi with an oil consumption problem.
@@miketonon7946 in my experience, have a '06 Ion that's received full synthetic since day 1 (exact brands though I couldn't say as the service receipts don't mention it) and after 5K miles the oil will still be in the safe zone, but there will be rather apparent oil burn still, especially if you know where the dipstick was at on the fill-up
There’s a light for that too 🙃
that's what the car engine oil indicator is for. In case you use your car more often or drive in a hotter environment that burns oils faster. Of course, it helps keep your car in prime condition with a manual check, as you really have to change the oil immediately after the indicator light is on.
“The oil they use in the beginning is so pure” lol
that cracks me up!!
zhuoqun xu .... must be baby oil.
blackdaan lmao
brilliant
I think they use extra virgin oil.
GM always said to wait for the oil light to come. I waited like it says and it never came on until 11k miles each time and then, I immediately got the oil changed. Come to find out, it ruined the timing chain on my Chevrolet Cruze because the oil needed to be changed more often. Cost me $2790! What is cheaper, an oil change every 5,000 miles or $2790 for a timing change? You do the math! Waiting that long always gummed up the engine! I’ll stick to every 5,000 miles!
Those lights are bull crap there’s no way the computer can tell the state of the oil. It turns the light on by guessing your driving habits. The best way to check your oil is to pull the dip stick it’s that simple.
The light on my wifes Honda Accord tells her to change the oil. The oil is still like new. I took over her Pontiac Torrent I dont plan on draining the oil. It has 65.000 miles and 7 years since the last oil drain. It has a Australian Jackmaster Classic on it. I gave up dirty oil and oil drains in 1963. I dont sell the Jackmaster Classic.
Chevy Cruze have a turbo the number one rule with turbos is clean oil.
@@ryans413 The light comes on when the oil pressure sensor detects oil pressure lower than whatever they have it set to. The new ones that show a % oil life are probably more accurate.
Oil is cheap. Engine costs a ton. The choice is yours. Quoted from scotty kilmer
Frans filters are the go.
I watch Scotty Kilmer for advice about cars.
Or I will recommend Eric the Car Guy for advice.
Not exactly the most logical thing ever. Why spend money when you dont have to? Oils have only gotten better. The real debate is how much better synthetic is vs conventional. Probably not much. Go spend $20 on a conventional oil change at Walmart when your car needs it.
Yeah, I wouldn't listen to a guy who gets his oil changed at a shopping store like Walmart on the cheap. Go to a reliable place or do it yourself..Ive had 3 vehicles in my lifetime..all have made it past 200k without ANY engine problems..why? Because I change my oil EVERY 3000 miles...simple as that.
Depends on how the car is driven. Can be anywhere from 3,000-10,000 miles. Stop n go delivery cars change at 3,000 miles, whereas everyday highway driving cars change at 10,000 miles. Also depends on which kinda oil and filter.
nonturbo car on highway can go 15k miles with full synthetic. city turbo cars 7k miles synthetic, 3k cheap conventional oil. Refill every 3 months, Change 12 months or expired oil gauge.
I would not go beyond 5000mi for any vehicle, or 8000km metric people. I do mine full synthetic every 6 months/3000mi/5000km.
@@22phan
Don’t trust a mechanic that drives a dodge nitro
That was my first thought! I had to do a double take.
WHY ! ? I DRIVE A DODGE NITRO & A DODGE CHARGER THAT HAS NOX !! BE MORE CLEAR ! YOUR STATEMENT IS USELESS WITHOUT CLARIFICATION !!
Hahahaha, but ya never know, maybe he just likes changing head gaskets 🤷🏻♂️😂
👍real talk , scotty Kilmer would not approve.
@@vulcanpilot-go7dj yess
The manufacturer does NOT have your best interest in mind. They just want it to last to the end of the warranty period. Extended oil changes and lifetime transmission fluids were all about lowering the "cost of ownership" I had a 2004 Toyota Camry and was following the maintenance schedule. Then at the 90,000 mile service, some services like transmission fluid change were now check fluid. When I questioned the change, they said to lower the "cost of ownership." Probably because Toyota's appeared expensive to maintain. Manufacturers really don't want you to keep your car 300,000 miles. They need to sell you a new car. 😅
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usually when a care fails, people change brands
Car makers are exposed to competition. If cars don't last, we buy some other cars. Not the one that don't last. The cars have to last. Which they do. Even with the long factory oil change intervals.
@@TaylorPhaseYa a ford owner will switch to toyota and vice versa. In the end, its all the same. More car sells for all brands.
I change my own engine oil - fraction of the price. It's really not hard folks.
I wait until a synthetic one come in special. You are not hurry so waiting for deal make you save more. Filter I choose the middle price one.
Video Leak Police or u can buy it from Walmart for a fraction of the price
Homedepot and walmart sell oil for $18 and filters for $8
Realizing my kia optima is 8 years old now and not new I started doing my own changes again. Switched to walmart brand 10w-30 full synthetic. 5qt jug and walmart brand filter all for $18 and change, dont get cheaper than that. I set 5000 mile intervals but i am thinkijg about doing it every 7000 especially since I went full synthetic.
Not really, Hybrid oil change over 50$ full synthetic.
2:42, "the oil they use at the beginning is so pure." Lmao. You should be fired sir.
Or just do it yourself and save a ton
Pinhead Larry you don’t save that much
It costs me the same as the dealership charges to chg the oil, $20 bucks. And the dealership tops off all the fluids for that price.
@@BmwMe-uh9sy Oh contrare; My local mechanic (not a dealership) charges about $50 for an oil change using conventional oil and a standard (not synthetic media) filter. If I do it myself I can put in synthetic oil for around $10 (3.6 qts) and around $8 for a Wix filter. So it's around 1/3 the price for a better oil change...
You do save a lot, and you can look at the color of the oil and determine when it needs to be changed, change it when its turning black. This is the proper way to do it, its literally one bolt and screw the filter on.
Bmw M3 e46 about half. I'll take that
What the owners manual also states is that the oil change intervals is based on ideal driving conditions.
exactly here in toronto with frigid winters, hot humid summers and terrible stop and go traffic i would change every 6 months or 8000km.
It us a scientific fact that most people don't drive in ideal conditions when commuting into most cities. Toyota cut their ti.e to 5k .Iles fro. 10k miles due to the seals failing. Weak seals and light oil. Helps gas mileage, but not on wear
@@christopherjoyce9788 VW states 15,000 km, but I change mine at 7-8,000 km which I think is close to 5,000 miles.
Every 3000-5000 miles. Oil is cheap. Filters are cheap. Engines are not cheap.
Do not use FRAM filters!
Some dealers and manufacturers say you can go 1 or 2 oil changes without changing the filter. I always change the filter every time though. Mixing a dirty filter with clean oil never made sense to me.
@@kalijasin agreed. especially when the filter is less than $10
3000 to 5000?!?! This isn't 1972 oil has come a long way. While a 3K oil change interval might have been necessary with the original group 3 oils. Group 4 and group 5 full synthetic can easily go five to seven thousand miles or more before significant oil degradation occurs.
Why not use FRAM filters ??
No need for chaning so often. Use synthetic oil and you can go 10,000 miles easily between changes.
When u're NOT from Canada but still watch because they're more informative than where u live...
SAME!
MeMe O. Yesssss 🙀💋
Lol let me guess your where Trump is
Not from Canada, but just watched "What Happens Whe You Don't Change Your Oil?" from EricTheCarGuy, video is 2 min 55 secs. Pretty informative.
You guys should watch all the marketplace episodes. They are good!
While I already knew this, I have always changed mine more often than needed. It saves problems in the long run and I often put 500,000 to 800,000 km on my engines before changing vehicals.
My daily driver is a 1987 Toyota with it's original engine with over 1.5million km on it and it still drives without any problems as I change my oil every 7500km with full synthetic oils, cost me $20 to change the oil, 15 for the oil and 4 for the filter.
Greg Droder what kind of vehicles do you drive
My records are 900 000km on a saturn, and 500 000km on a chevy malibu. Now we have 2 volvos and we know more about maintenance so these beauts are going to break 1 million i'm sure of it. I also change oil more often than needed.
+Big Bick
Wow, that is the record. How did you do that - I want some insight on this one. My friend did over 700k km on Matrix driving as a courier - 400, 600 km a day. 1.5 mln km - when most fail to do 300k km.
@@ainzooalgown7589 WHAT OIL BRAND YOU USE? I HAVE 98 4 RUNNER 3.4 ENGINE AND I WOULD USE SYNTHETIC OIL TO KEEP IT IN GOOD CONDITION THANKS IN ADVANCE ✌
It's not an "oil change monitoring system". There's no sensor measuring the oil. It's just the computer calculating when it should be changed.
GM oil indicators are very accurate. I've done oil analysis on my Buick Regal Turbo when the indicator showed 10% left at the 1 year point. The oil analysis showed the oil was still good.
Yep and that's actually quite easy to do, as the computer knows exactly at what RPM and how long with how much load at what temps and how much idle time the engine was operated. The computer knows basically ALL factors which age the oil.
thats just not true. most new cars have whats called a oil life monitor. it essentially uses a laser and a sensor to see how transparent your oil is. when your oil stops letting any light through the sensor goes off and tells you your oil has degraded.
most new cars will have them and they will combine that data with historical heat data along with extrapolating your mpg to get a rough estimation of engine friction. all these data points go to your computer which can get a pretty good estimation of oil health.
so yes there is an "oil change monitoring system" on most newer cars. however you really should be changing your oil well before any of these sensors on your computer detects the oil being bad. once youve hit that point youre already damaging your engine.
new cars track all the data they get over time and know something is wrong when the data its currently getting is a certain percentage different than its historical average
I change the oil in my tesla every 3 months....runs great!
I hate Teslas, and the snooty jerks behind their wheels. You aren't saving the world, because the lithium has to be mined, then shipped overseas in a ship that uses oil for fuel.
i change my battery every 3000 miles
Premium gas too. Purrs like a kitten.
J G Frakes ohh so bitter. Lithium can be recycled. Once gas is burnt it’s gone
John Valles and it goes into clouds as carbon monoxide,poisoning the environment. It's Genius.
it depends on the driving environment too. if you live in a hot & dusty place w/ continuous stop and go traffic day in and day out (like i do), then you need to replace your oil more frequently.
If you live in a cold & snowy place you need to change it more frequently too!
Extended oil change intervals are due to government regulations imposed on new car manufactures and are driven by the environmental concerns and not the wear concerns. So, of course the owner's manual will reflect that.
The new car dealerships are branded independent businesses and can recommend what they feel is best for the engine.
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@@flycatchful I remember another video comment section where someone thought that Subaru's PZEV actually meant partially zero emission, as in out the tailpipe.
When I informed him that it only referred to the evaporative emission system's superior quality that allowed them to legally "market" it as a partially zero emission vehicle, he told me I was spreading misinformation.
So may folks don't realize just how much bureaucracy is happening with our government agencies.
change your own oil, every 5k miles. just follow that routine, that's it.
I owned a 1972 442 with a 455 that had dual exhausts and the W-31 camshaft. I changed the oil every 3 months. I ran it from 1971 to 2000. It eventually actually fell apart because of rust, But the engine was running just as good at that point as the day I got it.
Have changed my own oil every 3,000 miles. I just retired my 1999 GMC Safari van with the 4.3 ltr. V6 with the odometer reading of 538K miles. I did switch oil over to 'high mileage full synthetic' about 10 years ago. The internals of the engine have never been serviced or rebuilt, except a distributor replacement 4 years ago.
The oil in the beginning is so pure. Lol.
I have never seen an engine have a catastrophic failure because the car’s owner overcharged the oil. The opposite in not true. Change your oil based on mileage not time.
Not if youre in a traffic congested city.
You’re the mechanic shepherd pie especially in NY or LA lol. Good luck with 10k miles after 24 months! Deep pocket!
@@TheEvoxTurbo 24 months? If the engine not driven over 10K, there is no reason to change the oil until that time. Wasteful.
That's not entirely true - just going off mileage. I drive my RV 2 k miles a year, sometimes less. I still change it every year. This is especially true if it just sits majority of the time, humid weather and oxidization breaks down oil.
@@markusallport1276 No, Stop and go short trip driving is hard on oils. Ans if just let the car sit for months condensation will form in the oil. This is not good
I check the oil everytime I gas up and learned how to do my own oil change.
That's pretty often. Is yours leaking? Mine doesn't perceptibly go down between changes.
You must fill once a month
Every gas up because you want to see how much of the full tank of gas went to your engine oil.
There is a reason why the Owners manual also suggests that.
As a mechanic, all I can say is.. IT DEPENDS. If you do alot of extended highway driving you can go longer on oil changes(no more than 10000 miles) If you short trip or do alot of in town driving then definitely change sooner(3000 miles).
You also have to keep in mind the quality of the oil filter which is just as important if not MORE important than the oil. Oil is tightly regulated and tested and most oils perform really well, filters not so much .Do not put quality oil in your car with a cheap filter. Filter quality roughly matches price so its difficult to go wrong.
The goal is to change the oil when it reaches below an optimum performance level. Better to change sooner than later. Why risk pushing the oil past its limit?
I have a 2013 Camry 2.5 liter 4 cylinder. The manual says every 10k with 0w20. I change it every 7k. I drive about 80% highway miles and very easy on the pedal. In your professional opinion is there any reason that would hurt the car in the long run? I’ve heard some mechanics say I should change every 5k just to be safe but 7k seems to work well for me so far. I plan to drive it til the wheels fall off
@@scottg429 nah ur doing good. If h like slamming the pedal once in a while it’s still good even at that 7k interval. I only did 3k miles in 7 months on my Mazda 6 and I like to floor the pedal here and there to feel the performance or just to avoid thick carbon build ups since it’s a gdi engine but I always run 87 from Mobil it’s more expensive than bp and stuff but I noticed with my car mobil doesn’t give off a burning smell through my vents when I floor it while bp shell and others do. I was actually kinda disappointed shell wasn’t as good in my car since they have a good reputation with v8 cars and stuff
@@scottg429 youre asking a COMPLETE stranger on the INTERNET a question ... he may or may not even be a mechanic, ask around in person for these types of questions
I am in south of Europe and only oil filter Mann or Knecht. Oil fully syntetic. Changing every 12 months
@@t.r.8386these filter brands does not mean they present OEM quality. Aftermarket products usually do not meet OEM standards.
the oil they use in the beginning is so pure , lol
Follow your owners manual and if you use your car in traffic or dusty roads follow the "severe duty" or "severe conditions" oil change interval.
zhbvenkhoReload stop and go traffic is a severe condition.
Extreme temps, stop and go, dusty conditions, frequent trips under 10 kms, hard driving, etc. are all severe duty. Definitely don't go a full year on an oil change if you're driving in these types of conditions.
mario torres
Yes , but not traffic condition
How much used,consumed fuels.
I think also would be driving only 5 miles to work,,,,,,,,,
If you spend an excessive amount of time idling (especially with a cold engine) or drive a lot of short trips without hitting full engine temperature you should definitely change the oil more frequently.
Very interesting. However, something about swapping out the black oil for amber oil makes me feel good inside even though my vehicle is low mileage. I do it myself so it's not a big expense. Keep up the great work!
I change the oil myself, not for the car's benifit, but it gives me a warm, fuzzy feelings
There is an advantage: you know that the drain plug was left out long enough, to drip out the last little bit of dirty oil, so you're not just contaminating the new oil with the debris in the bottom of the oil pan. It really helps, if you can let it finish dripping out, before putting the plug back in, and filling with new oil. Another trick, is to pour 1/2 liter of clean oil in, just to flush the last little bit of dirty oil out of the bottom of the oil pan.
@@vincentrobinette1507 And of course use a high quality oil filter every change.
@@nelzelpher2088 Another overlooked thing, is the benefit of using the best quality AIR filter possible, as well!(OEM or better)
Best thing to do is learn to change it yourself.
Cars1999 saved about $60 doing it myself
Totally
I almost crushed myself trying to do it. The blody Jack and stands collapsed
Airport Documentaries I just drive up with one side of the car on a curb, works well enough and I doubt the curb will collapse
I use 1 jack stand on each side and 1 jack per side (touching but not supporting) as a backup. I also shake the crap out of the car before I get under to make sure it's not shifting on me.
The manufacturer only warranties the powertrain for 60,000 miles. Following the oil life monitor will ensure the powertrain at least makes it this far. I could not say how many engines I've seen have an internal lubricated part failure at about 100k. When quizzing the customer about oil changes, "when the car told me to". Keep your oil clean it's less expensive than a new engine.
Exactly.
Kyle Cubel ok you believe constructors want bad name GeForce their brand! Very wisely
"Keep your oil clean it's less expensive than a new engine. "BINGO!!
My brother is a red sealed mechanic and has been working on vehicles for over 7 years straight to this point. He told me change the oil every 5000-6000km even if it’s synthetic. The filter stops working after 5000 even if the oil is still good for a bit the filter stops
I do it every 4 months regardless their milage. 187k miles later and the engine revs as smooth as the day I got it
For me it just feels good to change my own oil! I know it was done right at a reasonable price. I use the oil and filter that I want to use. If I use any shady tactics, I'm only cheating myself. There's no driving away from the oil change wondering if they REALLY changed your oil or just charged you for it. I've always changed it based on the what the car manual says with no problems.
Had the same feeling when I would pay to get my oil changed. Now I do it myself and use a fumoto valve which almost makes it enjoyable. On my GX460 the manual states oil change at 10,000 miles or every year. I do it every 6 months or every 4500 because I drive mostly street and I plan on keeping it till long term. With good maintenance the GX is known to get 400k before its done. It will probably out live me.
I have never spent a nickel having someone else change my oil. I've changed oil on about 60 vehicles that I've driven in my 52 years of driving. I know it was done right. in fact I've never spent more than $400.00 total having someone else repair these vehicles (Cars trucks, tractors, combines, swathers etc.)
@@alm7707 dude this isn’t a pissing contest lol
I agree. Currently on 150.000 miles. Change the oil every 10,000 miles or 12 months, whichever comes first.
it's not hard is it!
After driving 6000km my oil is already dark, and I usually change it, can't imagine driving up to 16,000km on the same oil.. And I use high mileage full synthetic oil. 202,000km on my 2007 Lexus IS250 AWD, still running strong.
Your engine has low tension rings. You're getting a lot of blow-by that is contaminating the oil.
It's a well known problem with that engine. Often has premature failure.
The oil change recommendation from the manufacturer is their best engineered estimate when they design and build that particular engine. After some time, inherent issues with particular engines sometimes become apparent to dealers and mechanics. My 2014 Ford 5.4 Liter Triton V8 engine is now known to have a number of issues related to oil condition. The engine is known to have excellent longevity if oil is changed more frequently than recommended. It's also known to destroy itself if oil changes are pushed beyond the manufacturer's recommended change period.
Every 3,000 miles engine oil, 30,000 gear oil for our Alaska vehicles. They don't use salt (too cold) so vehicles can last many decades.
DYI and it is inexpensive and our vehicles all run over 200,000 miles.
I would think oil changes would partly depend on how harsh the driving conditions are. Also there's different types of oil.
which is why you follow your indictor, which monitors all of that, speed, temps, starts and stops, ect......
I agree. If you know how much oil there is in the crank case and filter, multiply that by 200. When you've burned 200 times the volume of fuel as the volume of oil, that's when to change. If the engine does a lot of idling, or, heavy towing, it definitely needs more frequent changing, than an engine that runs on the highway smooth and easy. Distance doesn't matter, it's work, which is closely related to the amount of fuel the engine consumes.(much more accurate!)
Most engines now days are GDI, the pressure in the cylinders of GDI engines is 50-100x greater than port injected engines. I don’t care what the manual says, take apart an engine at 150k miles that has had the oil changed once a year with regular driving, and compare it to a motor with oil changed ever 5k, trust me you will see a difference.
Agreed. There are two types of driving normal and severe. Google weather you drive insevere conditions and generally should be changing it every 3000 miles.
@@travis3889 not all indicators monitor that. if you do city driving oil degrades much faster than highway
This oil argument is like asking.....should I bath once or twice a day? Or none at all? Lol.
If bathing cost 60-140$ then yea
Good one:)
Change your oil every 5,000 miles / 6 months regardless of what the manual says. The 10k intervals are the minimum spec the engineers came up with for the "lifetime" of the vehicle, which by the engineers' standards is typically defined as 120k miles. The extended oil changes are part of a push for environmental consciousness, but they have no concerns for the longevity of your car's engine.
no change your filter it's not the oil the fails its the filter
@@autobotavengerfireballxl5339 The oil also fails. Oils build up carbon and tiny metal deposits through going through the engine, some of which can bypass the filter. Not to mention oxidisation....
@@jackl517 everything you just said can be corrected with proper filtration
@@autobotavengerfireballxl5339 Not at all. Sludge as well as carbon deposits can create blockages in various internal systems. Should the filter get clogged with this crap, some cars have technology built in to bypass the filter so the engine still receives some oil (which in your car, with unchanged oil, will be dirty and contaminated).
You can’t really go by month, some people barely drive, meanwhile some drive a lot, so better just measure with mileage
He lost me when he said the machine burns the oil at temperatures hotter than the sun. LMFAO
You can tell a difference in performance and fuel use when you change the oil. Huge difference. I’m a self employed truck driver and I can tell a difference on my rig. And using the right oil on your vehicle matters
waaaay cooler temperatures, even on my 14 mustang gt, an entire 20 degrees c, cooler for first 2000 miles before it starts to gradually drop, or if i push the vehicle to its limits often itll go down after 1k. changing at 3k-4k miles really does make a difference in increasing the longevity of the engines life span
I've been working as a mechanic for over 20 years and without question keeping your oil clean by changing it at least every 5000 miles will drastically extend the life of your engine and avoid all types of related problems that can occur from running dirty oil that can cost you thousands in repairs. I actually use some great car management software www.lonewolf-software.com/automotivewolf.htm to track the maintenance schedules on my own personal vehicles so I don;t forget myself to change the oil, filters and and inspect certain components periodically. Change your oil regularly and you will avoid needless problems.
I'm a mechanic as well, running a family shop with 3 mechanics in our family, with over a hundred years experience combined , and I couldn't agree more! I just replaced an engine last week where the customer forgot to change his oil. He spent $6k.
No need to change oil often. I have a 96 corolla I've owned from new with 532,000kms. I have changed my oil only 5x in its life once every 100,000kms. Had no issues whatsoever. I have saved thousands on oil and filters!
Nah, I use Amsoil and change mine every 25K. I do change the filter every year. 201,000 on my Tundra and its running like new.
@@sameuljones5496 haha now I understand. A 90's Corolla is probably one of the most solid and reliable cars ever built. No modern vehicle would last with 100K oil changes......
I'm a mechanic also, and totally agree with you. My vehicle has a few hundred thousand miles (and 19 years old) . You other mechanics probably have something similar. People just don't like spending money on having their car run good, but have no problem paying for leather, radios and rims.
I am a bit old school when I went synthetic I went all the way up to 4000 miles. I know it cost me quite a bit over the life of the vehicle and I am good with that. Currently I have a small local mechanic doing the work. If he finds something wrong we fix it. The chain establishment I went to before had a lot of recommendations for service. You kind of had to sort through them. My hemi engine has small oil galleries and is known for burning out lifter rollers and eating cans. $1500 over the life of my truck seems cheap.
Yes so you would change oil at a max of 5000 miles the engine will last alot longer.
Also some engines just make oil a lot dirtier a lot faster than others. I am doing 5k full synthetic oil change intervals on my prius and it's barely even browned when it comes out.
Manufacturer recommendation is to get you through the warranty period. If you wanna keep your car much longer change the oil every 5000 miles or once a year.
I think it's more accurate to change the oil based on the quantity of fuel used, divided by the number of quarts/liters the crank case holds. When you've burned 200 times more fuel than the volume of oil in the crank case, that's when to change. The reason for this is, how the engine is used. If you're pulling a horse trailer up hills, the engine is doing much more work, burning more fuel, than if you're just cruising smooth and easy down a motorway. In the winter, the oil has much more of a tendency to condense water, than in the summer, just because it's cold. However, your fuel efficiency is much less, than in the summer, prompting more frequent oil changes, which, under those conditions is actually necessary! If you have a hybrid, which gets~21 Kilometers per liter(~50 MPG), because it holds ~4 liters of oil, you can actually go about 10,000 miles,(16,000 Kilometers) between changes. In winter conditions, or heavy in-town driving, the mileage is considerably less, putting the oil change interval closer to 10,000 Km(6,250 miles). the "Maintenance required" light comes on every 5,000 miles(8,000 Km). If the car is used for a taxi or other ride service, this is a very reasonable interval, but not a panic, if the light comes on while on a road trip. Just finish the trip, and change as soon as possible, the engine will be fine. MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THE OIL LEVEL REGULARLY!!!
The same holds true, for a four wheel drive truck, which with it's big-block V-8 engine, may only get 15 miles per gallon.(6.3 Km per liter). The crank case holds approximately 6 liters. That puts the oil change interval close to 7,560 Km.(4,725 miles). very reasonable for a heavy duty engine. If run hard, less distance between changes, more, if driven smooth and easy. no matter what, the thing contaminating the oil, is the quantity of fuel consumed by the engine, no matter what kind of engine it is, and it doesn't really matter how it's run, it will get the necessary maintenance, without spending too much on oil changes.
5,000 miles with full synthetic oil and a QUALITY oil filter (Mobil 1, etc)
Don’t forget to change transmission fluid and coolant. Trans fluid every 30,000 miles or so, coolant every 50,000
I change my oil after every trip. Every day.
Euro Buses NO same never has a problem
perfect
Lol
and twice on sundays!
your engine must be super clean. you can just reuse the same oil.
For my car, a 2017 Versa, they recommend changing the full synthetic oil every 5000 miles or six months, whichever comes first. I change mine between 5k and 6k miles, which is roughly 3 months, with my driving. I have a 35 minute commute to work.
Sorry but having owned or leased at least 30 vehicles over 45 years I still say changing oil is one of the most single beneficial things you can do to your vehicle no matter what the owners manual says. Maybe since I do it myself it makes it easy and much cheaper than taking it in to the shop. They quote $100 to change oil ?? I do it for $20 with filter and good quality oil. I still change oil and filter around 6-7 thousand miles. Years ago I used to change it every 3000 as suggested. My oldest car is a 1992 Honda Prelude.
@@MrDoccus I agree. At the end of the day, if someone plans to keep the car until the wheels fall off, just change the oil regularly. Oil is cheap compared to the cost of an engine...
Hey, you have it exactly right, and yes it may pollute more. But which is cheaper, $20 bucks worth of oil and filter, or $5,000 for a replacement engine? Some dealerships put a sticker on your car and don't do the work!
That's not data. There are people who have done real tests and found that synthetic oil lubricates just fine after more than 12 months of use.
@@stevenpdxedu And how often does that really happen? I'm not talking about someone leaving the same oil in an engine for decades, but those who change it say every two years or 15,000 km. Where is the actual data showing that those people are having to replace engines?
You can look at it either way. The mechanics want you to come into the shop more often so they will tell you to change the oil more often. The car companies on the side of selling more cars are going to want you to drive as long as possible so you ruin your engine and need a new car sooner. Also, I'm sure car companies get incentives for being more "environmentally friendly" by using oil more efficiently. Are they actually making the engines more efficient or just stretching the length of time that they recommend oil changes?
Not rly as they own the dealearships as well
Here’s the plot twist: the manufacturers MAY have recommended longer intervals to... slowly run down parts that would need replacing and are sold by... them? I change my own oil and I’ve to say that even after half the recommended interval, the oil’s totally black and engine needs a lot of de-carbonning. I’d rather spend on oil than engine parts.
Did you catch the internal emails both dodge and Honda were sending around too?
Trust me, black does not necessarily mean bad.
@@Jawsjawsjawsrg oil is made to lubricate and clean the engine...black oil means dirt in the engine that the oil filter couldn't catch.....why would u want excess dirt in any engine that might cause excess wear
@@treysherwood1174 Black oil mean the oil is doing it's job. Brown oil is not good.
Let's not forget people don't listen to your engineers manual when it comes to premium gasoline either . It burns longer, lasts longer and burns cleaner and also will contain the best ammount of detergents and additives to help carbon build up in your engine as well
The owner’s manual logic is to give you the cheapest maintenance cost for the duration of the warranty. The more often you change your oil the better for the longevity of the engine.
Thats not logical. Even during duration of the warranty oil change is not free, the owner pays for it. So it would be in the interest of the carmaker that you change oil often, to lower their risk that they have to pay for an engine malfunction during warranty.
Nevertheless they say: "Naaa, no need. Just wait until the car tells you." Why would they do that?
@@Slazlo-Brovnik the logic is that they suggest to push the oil change to larger interval to lessen the cost of ownership. That’s marketing strategy. The engine may (likely will) suffer but it will not break until later after the warranty is over (so they will not be responsible for the repair). Any mechanic will tell that pushing the oil change is a bad idea. Oil quality (good lubrification) is the most important thing for an engine.
@@andrebombardier3021 Well ... nope.
1. Costs for an oil change are actually not that high. If somebody owns a 80.000€ BMW 530x-drive, where the mandatory inspection is 200€ without oil change already - then the about 60€ for an oil change is just nothing. Also I don't know about FIAT or Chrysler or so, but BMW, AUDI or especially Mercedes have a reputation to loose. If they actually think that longer intervals would ruin their engines after warranty - they just wont do it. As a matter of fact engine failures after warranty (but otherwise not too old cars) are at least in Europe often covered by Goodwill payments. VW e.g. has formalized process where you can ask them if they at least cover part of the costs. If they could avoid that by shorter intervals - for which they do NOT pay - they would do that.
2. In Europe longer oil change intervals are normal. I know of nobody which does such short intervals. Even my garage does not recommend it, although the make money out of it. What we may do is make an oil change as soon as the indicator warns the first time which is usually 1000- 1500 km ahead, or right after buying a used car etc., sure. Basically a full inspection yearly incl. oil and filter change is the normal procedure.
And it's not that we have lower engine life in Europe AFAIK.
3. Mechanics wich want your money tell you that. The rest tells you, that listening to the indicator or do it every 12 months is fine. They will also tell you, that Oil technology has come a long way in the last 20 years or so, and they will tell you to use fully synthetic oil. (Note; "HC-Synthesis" is *not* fully synthetic oil)
I am not saying you should drive 20,000 km stopp and go in heavy city traffic with the same oil and just top it off or the like. But this "all 6months, all 8000 km" is just money grubbing.
Who the heck pays $100 for an oil change? You're getting ripped off
PJ Monster that's the price now in Canada at a typical dealership. Remember, that dealers have high overheads and lots of service bays to operate. They need to pay the electricity, rent, pay the secretary , employees, etc. All of those costs are included in your oil change. That's why your always better off saving money and doing it yourself.
Except when there is warranty or recall and you are not included as they have no records of the work being done.
I get mine done at a local mechanic for about $30. No overhead costs.
PJ Monster no they still have overheads..but very minimal compared to dealers. $30 is a fair price
Let’s say your vehicle takes 8 L of full synthetic to meet manufacturers spec. Plus oil filter and labour then environmental fee and taxes. That’s $150. in my world and a bargain at that.
There is NOTHING wrong with changing oil more often than needed. Clean, fresh oil will always help protect against wear better than filthy, carbon laden oil.
Sure there is, wasteful use of a finite resource
Same thing with transmission nobody changes it until it's to late I like to do every 30k-50k miles
@@TorryGoodI advise that on transmission also. I'm against 1 year oil changes should be done more frequent.
“oil is cheap, engine is expensive”
this will never gets old
100% Agree. Thank you for the info. This a contentious issue with some people. Always follow the Manufacturers Manual 🚗
I change my oil every 6 months which is roughly every 3000 miles. Probably too often but I do it myself, it's easy, and I plan to keep the car a long time. Hoping it will outlive me 😃
Every car I have owned,changed the oil every 5000 kms. I have always got 350,000 kms plus out engines,good gas mileage for the life of engine,and no major break down. PLUS I DO THEM MYSELF FOR QUARTER THE PRICE
canadian welder
Good 350,00km is like brand new
Just started
must be a welder thing! I am the same 5000km or when I get bored whichever comes first,
What a waste of money and oil.
i know having a F150 original gas engine with 650,000km is such a waste of money
I know having a Volkswagen Golf with 410,000 km on the original engine with oil changed half as many times as yours is a waste of money. The original engine which is still running smoothly and efficiently.
I change my own oil every 3000-3500 miles regardless of what the manual says and ALWAYS get a sample of the oil and always comes back fine.
I recently took my Honda CR-V into the dealership for an oil change. They looked and told me I was wasting my money, and to go at least another 2,000 miles before I had it changed. I did. The service writer took the time to reassure me that changing every 5,000 miles was unnecessary. That's why I get stuff done there.
I'd still change it every 5000 miles or 6 months no matter what the say.
burn up your piston rings with oil changes over 5000miles, dealerships want it to blow up.
It depends on the driving conditions. If a person only drives 10k miles per year and takes frequent short trips (less than 5 miles)? You're going to destroy the engine doing 10k oil changes.
I change every 4k. Better to err on the side of caution ⚠️
Take care of your car and it will take care of you.
I wouldn't believe either one. Manufacturers don't want you driving the same vehicle for a decade and dealerships give false information to see you more often to sell you more crap plus make a little on the frequent oil changes.
I would change it every 5-6k miles.
Oil filters even the great ones I can't imagine how effective they can be for that long. Especially your oil.
You're 100% correct I have a clean 1998 Toyota Camry le and every time I go to the Toyota dealership for parts I get the impression that they don't like it when I tell them how good the car runs and that I'm planning to keep it for another 20 years this 4th generation Camry's can go for at least 400 thousand miles if you know how to do the preventive maintenance yourself and changing the oil every 4 months or 4 thousand miles only cost 40 dollars and that includes a genuine Toyota oil filter and quality full synthetic oil and no worries about oil leaks this is the easiest car to work on easy access to anything you need to repair I keep all my fluids clean engine oil, transmission fluid , power steering fluid, brake fluid, and the anti freeze. All this simple preventive maintenance is the key my car has 119 thousand miles and it still runs like brand new. And as much as I like my Toyota Camry le I know they're not making them like they used too.
I figure they want to change your oil so you'll walk around the showroom while you're waiting and look at the new cars!
I taught Automotive Technology for 17 years and I currently work at a dealership as a service writer. I wouldn't tell you to do anything other than what the owner's manual tells you. If you're changing your oil more often, good for you. You're doing your part in keeping the economy going. Keep it up. I'll keep the money that would be spent on your oil change interval for extra parts on my project car.
@@tomhill106 You are one the few good men out there my friend. I can't tell you how many times dealerships have told me something needs to be replaced when there wasn't anything wrong with what they said needed to be repaired. I change my oil at those intervals not before or after.
Not everything is in the owners manual tho. Thats the problem I have... I know it's a no-no to change your transmission fluid on a mechanical transmission. But i heard you are supposed to change mine in my Honda Civic CVT after 45,000? Does that sound, right? I know enough about cars to fix, repair and replace but not the science behind it all, especially that.
@@awakeandalive4248 My 14 Honda Civic is at 52,000 miles now. Runs great. The only thing I had to do is replace the stock battery, and do an alignment, which I heard isn't surprising. Other than that it's all good.
Not gonna trust the life of my $48k car to an 8min "research" segment by CBC. Whether I'm overspending at 5000km oil changes...I'd sooner do that than face expensive repair bills farther down the road. It's called peace of mind. I worked 12yrs for the City and noticed they change the oil in their entire fleet every 5000kms - and I know for fact their 4cyl Ford Escapes went 300,000kms of city driving without major motor work.
If you fall for the 5,000 km every change your real chump, you can go at least 7500 or 8000 km or more, but keep being a corporate tool
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@TheMarsBus How do you change the filter without having to replace the oil? That I would like to know...
@@Eric-tq3vn well just take off the filter and put a new one on and top of the lost oil
I've done it on my Nissan Titan mainly because I have the filter off a Honda Civic literally.
Synthetic oil can last a very long time. The 3k mile rule was when older vehicles used conventional. Dealers and shops are all about money and they will always recommend an oil change. Buy a tool set and do the oil changes yourself every 4-7k miles.
Makes sense
6.2k for me (10k km).
Don't feel comfortable pushing it past 7k miles.
TRUE.
Also add to that the oil today in engineered to be better and additives are added to help keep the engine cleaner that back in the 70's, 80's and before. Synthetic oils today are so advanced and keep your engine running way better than expected and dealerships don't like using it for the simple fact that you CAN go longer between changes as before, and they bawk when you request it. I change my own oil and have never had a problem.
I'll tell my mother, from now on, change your own oil! At 70 years of age, she should of known this.
i was surprised to see so many older cars at the gas station. good to see people actually using things longer for once
"change oil once a year, the manufacturer knows best" -- warranties the car for 80k only.
There's alot of things that often go faulty with a car before the engine has problems.
Lolololol
I glad someone pointed this out 😂😂😂😂
Ahmed Mansoor change oil filter every 5000 use synthetic ,change transmission fluid annually and power steering ,brake fluid . If you live in rust belt get oil undercoating annually the cars last great . Parts are dirt cheap especially after market just did my brakes $ 27.99 for front pads and alignment kit rear $17 .99+ 2 rotors $ 29 each very cheap try that on a foreign car especially European lolololol
Changing oil more often than recommended will only make your engine last longer. It's like having a fesh oil all the time. No crud or deposit in the engine. Engine running smooth all year long. Oil is cheaper than a new engine. Original owner of 2002 Toyota Celica with 379k+ miles and runs like a clock.
I agreed with you.. I change oil every 3,000 mile for $28.00... I've Toyota Echo 2001 and has 100,500. miles on it..
My old Volvo 240 have 280000kms, oil change every 6000-7500kms
scotty kilmer, is that you?
@@bigboat8329 no, scotty has a 94 celica with only 280k some miles mine has over 384k miles.
I change oil once a year, i used synthetic for longer change interval, ive got only 3thou kms a year, i notice ordinary oil when 11months longer engine gets roughness
Clean oil is the life of the engine, period!
Oil that's dark doesn't mean it's bad. I've used Mobil 1 or Walmart Supertech with changes every 10k. All of my cars go 200k without any engine wear issues.
@@pbaker7160 10k miles oil changes will ruin your engine if you drive mostly in the city/metro area which is consider servere conditions. 10k miles is fine if you drive 90% highway miles on longer trips and no heavy traffic.
oil is the engines lifeblood,,change it at 5000km ,your engine will thank you,,oils cheap,engines are not
Good to know about the oil analysis in Brampton.
I've had our Subaru analyzed at 10000km and roughly 9 months and it's got good life left in the oil
The biggest issue in newer engines is direct Injection and fuel dilution.
The newer oil specs are built towards handling the extra soot and fuel......and the wear metals still seem quite low despite 2-3% fuel.
the owner's manual is designed to get you out of warranty and have your vehicle blow up so you purchase a new one. so changing your oil once a year every 16,000 with conventional will get you to 160000 but after that your engines extremely worn out.but now it's in the best interest of the manufacturer of your vehicles going and you're looking at them to buy a new one.
Very true...... These people are full of` BS........ If you change your oil at 6200 miles or once a year, you will buy more vehicles in the long run..... The manufacture is in the business of selling vehicles, if you change your oil every 3000 to 4000 miles, you will buy fewer cars and the one's you buy will last longer... Oil changes are the cheapest maint you can do for longevity of the engine.... I do my own full synthetic oil and filter changes every 3000 miles, I have 339,971 miles on my 1995 F150 with 5.0 V8.... I got 200,000 miles out of the automatic by changing its oil every 25,000 miles.... Now its rebuilt with 139,971 miles on it.....
This is a fact. Modern engines with thin oil (for fuel efficiency and not engine longevity pushed by the EU and other anticonsumer groups) will not last long unless u check and change your oil every 5K miles or 6 months. The 10K miles is a bean counter number made up for low cost of ownership to make it look like your car never needs service and creates really lazy car owners and angry owners when they find out that their engine burns oil after the warranty expires.
Exactly, from all over the world it seems modern vehicles are orientated towards fuel efficiency rather then anything else, even with individual regulation of different countries are the car manufactures are pushing towards this tend more and more. Even when I go visit my local mechanic his also stating the amount of new cars that are out of warranty is high, nearly exceeding the older models of vehicles that he has to fix that did not have these regulations in force.
Remember your warranty only lasts so long and once that time has elapsed you're on your own
Any mechanic driving a Dodge Nitro cannot be trusted.
Stream Light in another video he also believes in these “lifetime” fluids. It’s obvious he’s not a mechanic you can trust.
That is a fact.
Thank you. I know what to look for when choosing a mechanic shop
Mechanics use dodge and most American cars because they are cheap to buy a used one and parts are cheep as they can fix themselves.
Always loved Market Place
Thanks for your great work to help the average guy
I have been changing my engine oil and filter once a year regardless of mileage since 2004.
If you are driving anything with variable timing you should change it every 3000 miles. The manufacturer recommendation is to get it out of the warranty period and to keep the advertised annual cost of ownership low. All three of the domestic manufacturers have gone through this issue with their variable timing engines. Massive expensive repairs to engines just out of warranty, but well short of their expected life. Same issue with their lifetime transmission fluid. It gets the car out of the warranty period, but gets very marginal after that.
It makes sense to me that the manufacturer is going to tell you how to economically keep your engine running through the warranty period only. I like to keep cars for about double that. That said, I use full synthetic and change at 4000-5000 miles. My 2012 Toyota Sienna just passed 194,000, it has never had any engine work done, and it still shows almost no change on the dipstick between changes. It would be interesting to know if others are getting this kind of engine life changing oil less often, or using conventional oil.
I have a 2006 Sion xB with 300200 miles. I bought it new and I've done all the maintenance myself. I drive my car to work 50miles one way, no traffic in the morning and heavy traffic at 5pm. It has been a very reliable car. I drive it like I stole it.
287k miles on Honda Civic with Amsoil 25k or 1 year oil changes. Still gets 37mpg
Hasn’t run in for a Toyota
You should be changing your oil AND filter every 6500-8000km period. Ignore the manufacturer specified interval as it’s too long - unless you want to replace your engine the day after your warranty expires! Driving in Canada, particularly in winter, is actually considered “severe driving conditions”. Change your coolant and transmission fluid regularly too - as in every 40000km.
I have a GDI engine. I go by the owners manual severe usage interval, which is 3500 miles (5600km).
I use 5w30 full synthetic oil.
I change it myself. Costs me about $21 USD.
Same here brother! I change it every 3k cuz I'm always beating on my car it's turbo charged as well.
Haven't had one issue, i bought it new in 2017 and put 62000 miles of pure beating the engine to hell. Still runs like a charm.
Y’all really expected to get different advice between a Honda dealership and an Acura dealership? They’re the same manufacturer and company 🙄🙄
Madeline dont come here with your smartass facts
Madeline Yeah but those dealers aren’t owned by the manufacturers so they can say whatever they want.
Madeline dealerships are franchises
Honda europe says 10.000km or 6 months in all service manuals, and thats for hondas 0w20 and 0w30 oils we use here
Jeep and fiat dodge also lol
This is rather funny! Being a heavy line tech for almost 30 years I’ve changed a LOT of engines in all makes and models …majority of the time due to longer than normal oil change intervals!
As most engines get older and miles accumulate , the engines wear out slowly. I’ve always stated it’s better to change the oil sooner than later because you don’t want to wait till the oil is broken down to a point to cause excessive engine wear. Most engine wear happens on cold start up, when the oil is its thickest, as the oil breaks down it will tend to to gel up (sludge) and be difficult for the oil to flow to critical parts of the engine etc damaging engine parts.
Even my own vehicles I’ve seen the affects of going extended periods without changing the oil…..oil consumption, engine rattles on start up and so on! Your not polluting the earth if you recycle the oil properly and your saving money by extending engine life!
Every engine is different and driving habits can affect oil life.
Short trips need more frequent oil changes vs highway driving ….a cold engine runs a little more rich with fuel than at operating temps …in which diluting the oil slowly…..contaminating the engine faster with shorter trips.
Synthetic oils have helped extend oil change intervals cause they don’t tend to sludge but can still get very contaminated and cause engine damage with extended intervals. Imo it’s not worth the expense waiting to get that very last mile out of an oil change …..like the oil analysis expert said there’s no way to no how much more time on the oil they were testing.
5000 miles or 6 months is a good baseline to go by for the average person.
Absolutely. 💯
Thank you for the well reasoned nuanced response... Much respect...
Thx for this video. I will change oil once every two years from now on as I drive so little a year - less than 5,000 Km.
No!! You shouldn't let your oil go past 1 year!!
@@michigan_supercars6569Or what? 🤔
@@michigan_supercars6569 You're right. Maybe I shouldn't. It's a bit too risky.
The real problem is that many people dont check oil levels between services.
Telling people to wait 10k miles to change their oil is satanic
Have you got any evidence that changing your oil every 10k miles damages the engine? My car (KIA) has a seven year manufacturers/100k miles warranty and they say to change your oil every 10k miles/once a year whichever comes first. Seems odd to me that KIA would offer such a long warranty if that was the case.
Man Fred I agree.
Most older cars will have consumed all its oil by then
@@collinslfc Yes. For one most average people never check their oil.
A lot of older cars as mentioned above will burn or leak oil in between changes.
So, if you burn a little oil and dont check it at all going 10k miles between changes as opposed to say 5k miles gives it a lot more time to burn or leak enough oil to cause serious damage. Not to mention how dirty and thick oil becomes after 10k miles.
Your just dumb. Hope all your engines blow
@@KSI_Revelations *You're just dumb. I thought I should correct your grammar on that part, calling someone "dumb" whilst not knowing the differences between "you're" and "your" in the same sentence doesn't come across too well on your part. And it does seem a tad extreme to wish the misfortune of having an engine blow on somebody you don't know, why would you wish that on somebody? Anyway I digress, I don't know why you're calling me dumb. I merely asked for evidence that changing engine oil at 10k miles intervals is damaging to the engine as the OP claimed. I cited my car manufacturers maintenance schedule which states to change engine oil every 10k miles/once per year and this is what the owner must adhere too in order to maintain a 7 year/100k miles warranty that KIA give on all their new cars and have done for many years (at least on their cars sold in the UK anyway). That's a fact and it seems very odd and bad business decision that KIA would offer this if 10k miles oil changes was damaging to an engine. But if you want to call KIA engineers "dumb" then go ahead, but that's not my problem. My six year old car is still under warranty and working perfectly fine with a 10k miles/once per year oil change.
as a general rule I never go over 5,000 miles on my oil changes. modern oils today yes they can go up to a year or up to 20,000 miles whichever comes first but I can tell you from first hand experience I've seen the inside of engines that have had these extended OCIs they're usually caked with sludge and varnish and are very dark on the inside. Engines that have their oil changed more frequently are very clean on the inside and these extended oil change intervals are a big reason why most modern vehicles the engines usually can't go over 150,000 miles before they need major repair. things you need to consider when you do extended oil changes is over time your motor oil gets contaminated with fuel and over time it gets contaminated with moisture from condensation. these two things lower the engine oils total Base number and over time it can make your oil become acidic and it can lose its ability to lubricate your engine. a new engine is roughly $10,000 versus between 60 to $100 every 3 to 5 months for an oil change which one is worth it to you?
Changing oil should NOT be based on a “time period” ( like every year) but by how many “miles” have been put on the car since the last change. I drive about 8,000 miles a year. My friend drives about 25,000 a year. Certainly he would need a oil change more often than I would. The best policy is to change your oil every 4 to 5 thousand miles, regardless of how much “time” has passed. I personally change my own oil every 3,000 because I drive an older model, a 1999 Volvo V70 XC 2.4L w/turbo. It has 240,478 miles on it. It doesn’t burn or leak any oil. It never breaks down. All I’ve ever done is replace things that wear out, belts, tires, spark plugs, bulbs, etc. Love my Volvo.
Run synthetic name brand oil and change it every six to seven thousand miles, you'll never go wrong doing that.
Very true!
For me, checking dip stick level and oil quality is crucial.
Keep in mind that the quality of the oil will make a big difference on when to change it. Once the oil gets dirty and leaves deposits it's hard to get them out.
Change the air filter every ten thousand miles to keep the oil cleaner.
The quality of the oil makes no difference to the rate it acquires contaminants.
I love this show. I've learned so much from it. well done Marketplace.
In my opinion, i think oil change requires depend on how often or far distance you drive your vehicle daily.
The oil change intervals really depends on the type of engine. If you have a GDI engine (Direct Injection) you'll likely want to change the oil every 5000 miles or 6 months if you take frequent short trips in the car. Fuel dilution is a real issue in these engines and it can cause real problems long term. Fuel dilution is when you drive short trips frequently and the GDI engine doesn't warm up enough to burn off the excess fuel getting into the oil via blow by in the cylinders. When a GDI engine is cold, fuel seeps into the oil from blow by during combustion. Fuel in the oil can destroy the effectiveness of even the best Full Synthetic oil in a relatively short period of time. One way to help remedy this issue is to drive the car for more than 30-40 min to give the engine time to burn off the excess fuel in the motor oil.
Some GDI engines like the new Toyota Dynamic force and the newer VAG TSI engines have both port and direct injectors to solve this issue
All are gdi now a day.
This is why our State Attorney Generals MUST conduct repair shop investigations and ARREST THESE FRAUDS!
had a 2008 corolla since new - since i do around 70 highway 30 city - i change the oil between 5 k - 7k miles with the cheapest regular motor oil or 6 months, whichever comes first - never had an issue for 267k miles until i wrecked it
Fram Filters are GARBAGE !
Not the ultra synthetic filter by fram it’s expensive for a reason . One of the best on the market . But rest of fram tough guard , high mileage and e core are trash paper end caps 🧢
better than toilet paper lol
Ive used the top tier ULTRA frame and they are on par with the best. cut one open, its well built
@@FranklinHicks-qs4gs Toilet paper rolls are actually a very good bypass filter.(Frantz)The rolls won't allow enough flow, to replace the normal filter. it is only used as a micron filter, to supplement the spin-on filter.
Why the Hell would you take a chance on the 2nd most expensive thing you own, oil change very cheap if you do it yourself. 6 months 5k miles and your engine will last a very long time.
I change my oil every ten thousand miles and my 1999 Chevy prizm got 350K miles on original engine
Payam yazdi youre lucky those toyota engines live to burn oil and have missfires
my 12 yr old toyota taco has 97K miles....have used synthetic oil and bosch filters--change oil every 8K miles.....haven't leaked/burned a drop of oil for 12 yrs.....have never had to add oil between changes....only drive about 2K mi/yr around town and do a 6K mile road trip every year....most of my miles are freeway 65-75mph.....
@@edvinneluis2635 wrong......synthetic oil and high qual filters don't require wasting money changing oil every 3-5K miles like the "old days".....syn oil and good quality filters cost more, so if ya change your own oil, it's not much of a $ savings, just labor (1 change vs 2)....if done at a shop, syn cheaper--less labor costs....for the record, have been driving toyotas for 30 yrs (18 yrs-'89 4-runner and 12 yrs on my taco)...i did change oil on my 4-runner every 4K miles on average, since i was using oil, not synthetic....after about 12-14 yrs with 4-runner, did need to add about 1/2 qt between changes.....
Scottybob Videopants well sir just to be clear i was talking about the toyota corolla or prizm 1.8 engine from 98 to 01 that engine loves to burn oil and have misfires like crazy. Google it.
@@edvinneluis2635 no problemo.....neither of my toyotas had those issues....
Just check your oil dipstick to see the condition, when the oil looks dirty change it to prevent premature wear on your engine. There’s metal on metal contact and there will be metal particulate in the oil after some use which will hence cause more wear if you do not change it.
Amsoil (synthetic) advertises 25k for oil change with their 25k oil filter.
I have used since 2001 and really like it. I drive 15k/year & change oil yearly. Works for me.
AMSOIL is the best
@@cwqrpportable oh yes, the world's most expensive oil works wonders in your toyota corolla
@@stephenmartinez1 ?
When you put your employees on commission, of course they are going to do everything from upselling to outright lying
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i change mine every 5000-8000 miles, i'm at 337,000 miles and still running smooth as silk
trigga ville I go about 4K oil change intervals. The owners guide for my 5.4 3 valve says every 10k. I think it's better safe than sorry. I have 242,xxx on my truck and it runs like a champ. I also use 10w40. I'll stick with what works best for me.
trigga ville what type of car you have? That’s pretty good
trigga ville bro what car do you have?! I want mine to last that long
Maybe his car is Toyota because I have Toyota hiace its 205,000 km. I change my oil, oil filter and air filter every 5000 km and our van it feels like brand new.
@@MexicoTijuana741 Does not matter what car he's got as long as you change you're oil regularly then you're car will last as long as his. On the other hand, most Japanese cars like Hondas, Toyotas, Nissans and you're Hyundais will definitely reach over 300k miles while youre american cars most but not all are designed to break down after the first 100k miles and will require for you to bring you're car in to have it fixed, it's designed that way so they can make revenue.
BMW - and Audi - are sometimes criticized by diligent mechanics and owners for putting up 10,000 mils OCI. Many owners who care about their cars change it every 5k-6k.