It's (Almost) Over For 4GB Cards | GTX 1650 Super
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- Benchmarking the Nvidia Geforce GTX 1650 Super 4GB against 13 modern and popular games (and one from 2019) using an average gaming PC.
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Although not quite the last 4GB graphics cards ever to be released - the GTX 1630, RX 6400 and RX 6500 XT still regrettably exist - the GTX 1650 Super is a relic from the 2010s, a time where plenty of people would forgive brands for releasing a card with such a limited frame buffer. In 2023, the world of PC gaming is far less forgiving of 4GB GPUs. Can the 1650 Super survive?
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00:00 Nvidia GTX 1650 Super 4GB vs. 2023
00:40 Background: History of the Nvidia GTX 1650 Super
02:47 Test System: Ryzen 5 5600X, 32GB DDR4-3600
02:59 Gaming Benchmarks
03:02 Benchmark: The Last of Us Part 1
03:51 Benchmark: Resident Evil 4 Remake
04:43 Benchmark: Jedi Survivor
05:18 Benchmark: Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
05:42 Benchmark: Starfield
06:17 Benchmark: Forza Horizon 5
06:54 Benchmark: Forza Motorsport
07:26 Benchmark: Halo Infinite
08:11 Benchmark: A Plague Tale: Requiem
08:36 Benchmark: Cyberpunk 2077
09:09 Benchmark: Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
09:31 Benchmark: Fortnite
10:11 Benchmark: Call of Duty Warzone
10:37 Benchmark: Control
11:19 Fire Strike & Time Spy
11:30 Conclusion
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Iceberg deep in his bag that TLOP to RE4 transition was cold 💯
ifkr, literally came to look for this comment.💯
@@_ZeroTheTyrant_ when i saw that shit, i was like "dayum, iceberg defo a bad man"
The life of Pierre ?
@@jdwbcrthat’s what I thought when I saw this comment 😂😂
TLOU*
As someone who is using a mobile 3050, 4GBs of VRAM is DEFINITELY too little nowadays. It was genuinely the biggest bottleneck when I played RE4 Remake.
i came from a laptop 3050 as well, it was even struggling running older games on medium settings. it is definitely rough
Same I have a 3050m and it STRUGGLES purely cos of vram, the card itself has good performance
@@xdtyfails6497 I specially realized how little it is when I built a friend's PC with an AMD GPU with 10GBs of VRAM and he booted up COD WW2 at max settings. In the game I could see the VRAM usage, only being 4GBs, and I then realized that's only 40% for him. I'm struggling to run most modern games due to my vram meanwhile for his gpu that's less than half. That's insane.
3050 laptop were tr4sh, I always told people to avoid them, at least 4050 are coming with 6G... Still low
Well, to be fair the 3050 mobile performs about the same as a desktop 1650 (depending on its TDP of course, since some laptops can have a lower TDP/less capable variant, same goes for the mobile-only 3050ti). Speaking of the Ti variant, even under the best conditions it performs between a desktop RX 580 and 1650S. Nvidia really screwed entry level laptop users with those cards. Even the new 4050 mobile finds itself around the desktop 1660S & 1660ti (which is hardly even that large of a gap to begin with). You’d think with the crazy good power efficiency of the 40 series that a lower tier card with a low TDP would perform closer to older/more capable desktop cards that the rest of the 40 series on desktop wipe the floor with.
Looks over at my 3gb 1060. Its still good, its still good.
keep on strivin.. old friend :)
For games - it is. For new "whatsoever" nothing is good.
i have had the same card for 7 years and i have no reason to upgrade anytime soon... the most intensive games i play are space engineers, beamng, and derail valley. at 1080p 3gb vram is more than enough.
@@manitoba-op4jxthats good for you. but for anyone even thinking of playing some aaa game, it wont
Sitting with my 3GB R9 280... "You're still valid, little buddy!"😅
The transition from the last of us to re4 was so satisfying .
yes 3:49
That transition at 3:48 was perhaps the cleanest edit I've seen from a gaming channel all year!!
Part of the problem for 4GB cards I feel is that developers aren't really doing Low, Medium, and High settings but are instead relying on tech like FSR to achieve the same goal.
@@nathaniel1207 4GB has had its day, on that we can agree and there's a reason for that. I just recently finally retired my GTX 970 after 8 years of service in favour of a RX580 2048SP in my Media/Office PC, where previously it had been replaced by a RTX 3060 12GB in my gaming PC.
But it holds true that when you used to pick between Low, Medium, and High the difference was obvious. Now it's getting to pixel peeping because they need to "maintain their artistic vision" with upscaling picking up where previously they actually put effort into the lower settings.
If they aren't going to make the low settings actually make a difference then why are they there at all. Just have an upscaling setting and be done with it.
Ngl, it just seems like we're at that era of switching hardware, 2 yrs ago it was decent to have a 4gigs vram gpu and now 2023 games NEED 8GB vram minimum.. Gotta wait 3 yrs for the next entry level gpus to have 8 to 12 gb of vram
@@yourlocalinternetuser6725 Sir, the cheapest cards have 8gb now, and you can get 8gb cards for less than $100. its not really an issue now.
@@nathaniel1207 I don't agree with this mentality.
I think games should be more scalable.
I get a new game needing more than 4 or even 8GB to show you the whole goodies and the nice graphics but i settings should be able to scale so a person can lower settings and get actually lower demands on GPU performance.
If the gamer is willing to compromise and not have great visuals for some ability to play why not offer it?
Right now you put a game at low settings and you look around to see if it is different than high so of course it is still going to need almost the same VRAM and performance from the GPU as it was from high instead of really going at lower tiers.
It seems to me they do this because they simply don't want to put the work of creating such scalable settings.
What Nvidia or any other hardware manufacturer has put out on the market is irrelevant to this.
Just because Nvidia released some 8GB lower tier card doesn't mean that developers have to now make every game not scale down to needing anything less than 8GB.
@SIPEROTH The issue with that line of thinking, is that its not just Nvidia, AMD or game devs. its industry trends in motion, ones that have been present for over 10 years. 2gb cards lasted 4 years before 4gb cards became the minimum on new cards. those lasted 5 years before 8gb has become the minimum on new cards. now that consoles have had 8gb or more since the PS4 and XB1, and a majority of the PC market has 8gb of VRAM or more (Oct 2023 steam hardware survey), Game devs dont want to spend more time and money to try to cater to gamers who stubbornly cling onto obsolete GPU's. 8gb has become the minimum, and makes up the majority of both the console and PC market. Spending time on scalable settings and supporting older 4gb and 6gb GPU's is just not worth it, and its not hard to see why when you look at industry trends in the PC DYI market, and the console space.
And if you still have a 4gb card, like a gtx 1650 or super variant, i'd reccomend the RX 6600 from AMD, they're $150 USD in the US, or if thats still too much, the GTX 1070 is a great option which packs 8gb of VRAM for less than $100 USD.
It's incredible how well the 1070 and 1080 still hold up
Is'n it funny how 8gb is dead according to this channel but 4gb still about to die...
Pascal cards are awful in Alan Wake 2
Pascal GPU’s are dead in new modern games.
My 1070ti Strix is still kicking. They get a bad rap usually from people that just got off their consoles year ago and are suddenly PC masters with their reddit knowledge.
@@ZackSNetworknope
As a user of a gtx 960 to this day gotta say that i still remember the days when 4gb of Vram was all you really need so this video was kind of a nostalgic experience :P
On another note i would like to see a review on the arc a380 to see if it can be a good budget option!
Awesome video as always!
Why are you wasting money here if you could invest in a gpu, no offense just asking tho, and very generous of you to donate to the video creator, massive W
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@@charlotteritchie9969 it's less money everyday passing by. Also beacuse the government doesn't like the citizens spending money that superchat in reality was 200 pesos beacuse believe it or not we have 100% tax on this kind of purchase :)
@@Secrethiden gotta be honest i can't put my words without making an aggressive sounding response so i just going go to say for the games i play it's enough for me. I could extend my response more but i guess is going to be really boring
@@TheDrTopo Your new president seems to be more capitalist so hopefully he will relax those taxes a little and try to get the free market going.
Maybe because I'm an older pc gamer, but all these "scares" of 2023 remind me of previous changes to gaming architecture. This has happened before when we went from the x360 to xbone era, and it's even happened before then. I remember when people were calling over 4gb of ram "unoptimized" and multi core a waste of time. Things will settle down a bit, and we'll have a 1060 or 1080 successor carrying builds for years to come again.
True - before cuda cores 128mb was enough and 256mb was overkill - then gt 8800 has 512mb but gt 9800 has variant with 1gb. 480/580 has 1.5gb, 680-2gb, 780-3gb, 980 4b - and then dx12 appear - 1080 8gb, 2080 8gb, 3080 10gb and then UE5 appear - 4080 16gb. Same with Radeon/AMD.
@@AfridonDeaddarkactually before Titan, Nvidia is known to give smalller VRAM. Remember GTX 970 controversy? It's stated 4 GB but it's only use 3.5 GB
What about now. Does the 1650 super stand the test of time? Who wants to test ark asa for me lol😂
I would love to see how you would test Alan Wake against all the used GPUs you have. Especially with the whole "Mesh-shader" issue
I was talking to someone IRL who tried this and said Alan Wake 2 wouldn't load on their 1650. Another person, who I don't know online said 1080 low was single digit frame rates and crashed. No idea if everyone who has a 1650 will experience this.
true that, ive heard Mesh Shaders were related to nanites
@@baroncalamityplus1650 does support mesh shaders so it might even perform better than a 1080 still not playable fps though i assume
The 2060 struggles in Alan Wake on minimum settings, very low chance the 1650 does anything remarkable other than refusing to launch the game.
I recently finished AW2 with a 1650S, I only had streaming texture issues. I don't recommend playing it with a card less than 6GB, some puzzles were almost impossible to complete due to low quality texture, and it was frustrating walking (at mid/late game) in some areas with low LOD terrain
Buying a gaming laptop with a 3050/3050TI mobile which has 4GB of VRAM was a mistake that I gladly avoided when going with an Acer Nitro equipped with a 3060 mobile that has 6GB of VRAM.
The only thing that I am salty about is that I didn't wait for 4000 series laptops to get to my price range because having a laptop with a 4050 is much better. Why? Frame generation.
@@cebul9267 I've already forseen this back when I know NVIDIA shaved off the VRAM capacity of their mobile GPUs.
It's not worth waiting because there's always better stuff around the corner, meanwhile you already have a gaming machine
I did this, fortunately the games I play are either to cpu bound or 3050 just doesn’t have enough muscle to even use that much v raw
@@cebul9267If you play games that don't support FG, the 3060 is probably much better.
I upgraded from a 1650 laptop to a 3060 laptop. Upgrading to a 3050 isn't worth it, it's basically like upgrading to a 1660 laptop, but without getting more VRAM.
Btw, the 4050 isn't better than the 3060 in raw power anyways.
I've been watching a decent amount of your videos. I really like your content reviewing these old and modern GPUs!
Your video about the 3070 really helped me figure out how mine is gonna run - albeit, my new pc's probably gonna run a bit faster considering it's got a i5 13600kf and ddr5 ram.
Still, your video really helped! Thanks for being a good lad :)
Rocking my 2Gb card 🗿
the transition from the last of us to re4 hits hard 🗣️
Man i love your vids bro so well made i wish i could edit like this
Educational as always🔥🔥🔥
Great video!
I'm very fond of the 1650 Super. I have several of them I got when a local graphic design/vinyl shop closed. They bought five HP desktops with i3 10100 CPUs and 1650 Supers. I was able to snag all five systems for $225 each. I have since repurposed one for an NVR for my security cameras, one for an emulation arcade cabinet, one for a backup Plex server (for when my Unraid server is down for maintenance or upgrades) and one for my mom. And then one just sitting there for parts if one of the others dies. They work incredibly well for each one of those uses. The 1650 Super and 10100 run everything I want to emulate all the way up to the Nintendo Switch. The 1650 Super is a great little card for many things. But modern gaming isn't one of them. Especially at the quality I want. But I'm lucky enough to have a gaming PC with a 7950x3d and 4090 for that.
i love you dude, its great that you are a voice of reason in the tech space that doesnt hype up hardware and always builds pcs with 4090s and 300 core ryzen chips, luv ya
Pretty optimistic thinking there will be a 'next 150$ graphics card' from Nvidia. At best, they keep something like the rtx 3050 in production for a long ass time and eventually drop its price down to 150$.
Guess you're a kind of 'glass half empty' guy, although in all fairness you are likely right.
$150 is the 2027 pricing for the 3050. Your clue should be the fact there is no 4050 and never will be...
I wish they'd revive the xx30 series. I know people say "just get an APU" but sometimes you want a separate GPU
Are they trying to make gaming a high end hobby or something? Teenage me could never afford to build anything decent today even with saving up all them summers...
@@jonleibow3604indeed or RX6400 should have been more decent although it equals rx570 so it ain't that bad
Any plans to start inlcuding The Talos Principle 2 in your benchmark suite? Its a new unreal engine game which looks very pretty! But performance wise atleast in the demo was acceptable if you have a modern cpu to prevent the stutters
Nice video, I'm a 1650S user right now, I'm quite happy with all the performance the card is giving. I recently finished Alan Wake 2 at low setting 1080p FRS Balance, the only problem was it had streaming texture issue, due to lack of VRAM (also, the card seems to support Mesh shaders)
Just buy a new card
@@TheRealCatofnot everyone has deep pockets
@@TheRealCatof Ohh if you are homeless, just buy a house shit again :D
@@TheRealCatof people like you are the reason people hate pc gaming/techies some people can’t drop a stack on the best hardware, as long as the game can run 60+ fps it’s just fine some people are even ok with 30
@@Voidling43 even to me that only have work laptop and play for 15 fps still okay
get 30 is good
get 60 is good
get 120+ is thanks for god
It's worth mentioning low GPU VRAM can increase load times in games as the engine can't load assets. I tried playing Rust with a 1GB GPU and it took 15 minutes to join a game even with an SSD
Bought a laptop with a gtx 950m 4gb in 2016. Finally upgraded this year, but that held its own until recently. It's only the last year or two where new games were completely unplayable, but I had been having to make compromises for a playable experience for a while. The extra vram (I believe standard 950s were 2gb) helped that card stay in as long as it could. Running an RX 6800 now, so really feeling the upgrade
3:47 that transition from TLOU to Resident Evil was nice.
Me before finding this channel: I should make a youtube channel about aging graphics cards
Me now: Well how the hell could you beat this!
Forza horizon is such a testament to how optimization can be
What are the settings Starfield was using? I'd like to test it against one of my systems that has an RX 6400.
4gb vram was the reason for me to pick used gtx 1660ti laptop, I could go for rtx 2060 but a couple of frames weren't worth of 25-30 bucks, my budget was too tight and here in Ukraine as a student you can live a whole week for these money, and I'm really happy with my laptop, re4 on high goes 50+ fps
Nice transitions
Vanilla 1650 laptop user here, RE4 with the right adjusts can run pretty well, I manage to play with high 1 GB textures and many other effects and things on medium/high and can average 60 to 70 in many areas, mainly the castle.
Hoping to get fsr3 for 1650 mobile so we can play GTA 6. If fsr 3 doesn't support 1650 then it's time to upgrade. New released games aren't good any more with 1650 and i can't play 720p as it makes me fell like the game us 15 years old
Lmao same playing it rn and it runs really well, atleast I am glad most of the games I am interested in that come out these days most of the time I can run fine, like I am not really interested in games like alan wake 2 or bg3, only 2023 game I played so far is re4 remake and lad gaiden both of which ran pretty well and I also have a very long backlog of old games so nothing really to worry about for me.
Gotham Knights will actually run on 4GB vram, and can run on GCN 1 (which can run DX12, but only at feature-level 11.1). I was very surprised.
I just moved from this to a 5700xt, which has been a nice jump but this card served me well
5700xt gang
What is the music that starts playing when the benchmarks show up?
Your content is very underrated
3:49 nice transition
I still use the GTX 980 in my secondary system pretty good card
omg i wasn't expecting that sexy transition here in 3:45 lol
The GTX 1660 Super is next on the list. It's can run most modern games on the "graphically enjoyably" borderline. Definitely have to tweak the in game settings to get the results you want. After that is likely the 2070 then then 3060ti but that's maybe 2 years down the road.
I had a 1650S and it served me very well. If you're tolerant of low fps and settings it's a safe enough purchase if you're willing to play mostly older games but just a little bit of modern/AAA games and it should be mostly fine.
I'd agree overall with the 1070 recommendation but TBF a lot of people considering a card like this probably have small systems and my old 1070 is massive, as I suspect many others are. Another problem I think though, is that (at least here in the USA) the 1660 and it's variants often sell for similar prices on eBay. And you get a fair bump in performance and 6gb of vram instead of 4. A 1660S would be a great followup to see the difference you get compared to this one.
Great vid!
I have a 1650(non S) and 8gb of 2666 ram.. send help pls
Well, there's a ton of old games that will run and work just fine on that! Play some classics like L4D2, Dragon Age Origins, Black Ops 1, etc. Or some modern indie or niche games like Hades or Trails of series.
bro i had a 1060 3GB 💀 glad i went with a RX 5700XT. im also hearing 1440P monitors are more beneficial for upscaling, but i had a good experience with FSR on Dyinglight 2 with a 1060
4GB cards were gamers saving grace during the last crypto boom. ETH miners could no longer use them since the page file was >4GB
You could still find 4GB 570/580s, R9 furys, 1050 TIs, Gtx 970s and 980s for prices that were still reasonable and close to their MSRP.
Let us all take a moment to appreciate these cards for getting us through some tough years with very respectable performance.
This my was first working gpu I put in my system that had a 3200g. It served me well. Upgraded that 3200 to a 1600 then to a 5800x3d. 1650 super to 6800
I also have a GTX 1650 Super on my second PC, and I must say that with an i5 9400f.. it goes very well in many games
This kinda is the reason I bought a 1060 6G Laptop when I needed to work 3D on the go, I needed bigger VRAM and it was cheap, 2060 laptops where almost double the price for same VRAM, and that's also the reason that laptop still can offer a lot of game, I even got some decent 4K gaming with FSR 2 (1080 to 4K) and believe me it looks brutal
Still have to upgrade my desktop rig, bought 5600XT 6G when it launched and my man, that's still a beast of a card, but VRAM is it's biggest weakness. If it was at least 8GB I wouldn't be thinking of upgrading at all, the chip is still as powerful as a 3060
It is already over. 3 games in the last quarter won't play well for me. Starfield, Alan Wake 2 and Baldur's Gate 3rd act. Now I know two of three have had some issues, but in all honesty, even without the patches/fixes it shows the end for 4GB and under cards. My GTX 980 is about to finally rest.
its been over for years 8GB is minimum and 12-32GB is recommended
Better an 128 GB.
I will probably get a new pc by june and i was looking for a budget gpu that could last me at least 4 years got any recommendations?
That transition 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
Id say the worst case of a gpu being bottlenecked by 4gb of vram is the rtx 3050 ti laptop in raw power the 80w version is similar to a gtx 1660 desktop but its much slower in many games because of 4gb while the 1660 has 6gb. Also 3050 ti has raytracing but its literally useless because it requires a lot of vram to run
Ik it's useless I have one
The RX 6500 XT seems to also be very bottlenecked by it judging by the few benches of the rare 8gb variant which seem to work drastically better in several games.
Great to see ,as although I have a 3080/13600K machine ,I spend a lot of time on my HP worstation ,which manages to run a EVGA 1650S and is about as far as I dare push it with it's one 6 pin lead ,managed a slight overclock an it runs games from the previous few years well.
I mean if you're fine with 30~40fps on medium-ish settings (with most new games), i think it's still okay. Just manage your expectation of course
At the end of the day if you ignore those few new AAA games it struggles with it'll still play thousands and thousands of games very well. Personally I don't buy games at launch anyway, I want them to be programmed properly and cheaper first. I'll worry about what I can't run when I upgrade my card (2060S) in a year or two when something compelling for the cash is available.
@@darthwiizius ayyyee we have the same card! I also plan on upgrading soon to either a used 6700xt or a new 4060 (i know, i know, but i do love turning on RT. I have RT on for the witcher 3 with my 2060S and playing at a locked 30 fps with dlss quality, looks amazing). But yeah, unless you're an fps snob like other channels (ahem steve from HUB) the 1650S and other cards with the same performance is still capable
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Yeah and as my card struggles I'll just go through my backlog for a bit, I got a lot of games to catch up on plus I want to play my RE games in canonical order, recently got cheap copies of RE1, 2, 3, 6 and 7 (Dammit CAPCOM remaster Code Veronica FFS, it's the true RE3 canonically). Plus I picked up the Bandai Humble and I have all of the free EPIC giveaway games, there's a few in there to play through. I do love RT on Control BTW and I will be using it on RE 2&3 remakes.
@@darthwiiziusYeah exactly, I'm not going to buy a 70€ game if I have a sub-200€ GPU from 2020 😂😂😂 I have a blast playing older games anyways. Currently playing The Witcher 2, Forza Horizon 5 and even Pokémon White on the emulator 😁😁
Since i have a GTX 1650 Super, what GPU should i upgrade to? i was looking at the Rx 6600 for an upgrade
Could we also do the R9 nano/fury with nimez? It has 4gb of vram, but a much lower driver overhead than nvidia cards
As well, the HBM 1.0 has a rather nice bandwith improvement
I haven’t really found the need to upgrade my 1650S, considering I almost exclusively play esports and older titles.
As someone who has mained a 4GB RX580 for many years, I'm really starting to feel the limit these days. I don't play many games past 2017, but when I do it's very easy to hit that 4GB ceiling. It's a bit funny to hear people talk about 8GBs not being enough these days considering my hardware lol.
Well most people that aren't satisfied with 8gb probably play at higher resolutions than 1080p.
@@theDarksunsShine for sure :) plenty are on 1440p+ now
Haha I think 8GB isn't enough for a GPU these days considering the prices they sell for. I mean you have definitely got your money's worth out of your GPU 😄
3:50 nice transition.
Yeah.... I were finding this comment
How the heck did you get the last of us to run on that thing I have a 3050 (8gb) and 16 gb of dram and I get nonstop “insufficient memory error”
Sick transition from Last of Us to resident evil
2018 nitro rx 480 8gb purchase was a good one, I knew even then. On a 5700xt now hoping I can stretch that at 1080p lmao
I’ve seen Dawids video on the 12gb 3070, which makes me wonder if its possible to upgrade a 4gb card to 8, or even 12? I think it would be nice to keep these things going
I'm sure it is possible, if you have the know-how. Whether it's worth the cost, effort and risk is another matter.
I have this 1650 super palit I put it in a batocera machine with a Ryzen 2600 does great up to the switch and such
My R9 380 (4GB) lasted for years in my Gaming rig and is now in my HTPC, RTX 3070 (8GB) is doing OK for 4K older games and 1440p modern titles.
Back then, 512MB GDDR3 Graphic Card like 9800GTX / 9800GTX+ or AMD HD 3870 can run Crysis 1920x1200 (yeah, 16:10 resolution are common in 2005-2010)
Today, even 8 GB card are "trash" not because nowadays AAA game have so realistic texture, but developer are getting lazy so they just put "RAW TEXTURE FILES" on their games, no wonder why many game today have like 100GB+ size, ironically some of those 100GB+ games are "Multiplayer only game" with less than 10 maps and every map are as small as 10km2
The 1070 or the 1660 Super would be better choices. Still on the budget side while still having your games look and perform very well. I'm currently playing Cyberpunk 2077 with the 2.0/Phantom Liberty update as well as Robocop Rogue City, both on my 1660 Super and I'm very much enjoying them both and they look great and perform well too.
3:51 superb.
Please do a comparison between this card and the new Arc A580
I don't have a GTX 1650 Super, but I have a RX5500XT 8GB, really wonder how it would preform compare to GTX 1650s
I have a 1650 super and I will say it can still run some games pretty well. I have an enjoyable experience on rdr2 despite 4gb vram. Can’t exactly play the newest games but I do all I want to with competitive games!
I bought it in early 2020, so far no complaint
I just retired my PowerColor RX 580 4GB the other week for a 2070 Super.
It did its job well enough throughout the years. 60 FPS with tweaked settings on 1080p was acceptable most times, albeit a bit jarring on a 144hz display without VRR.
Either way, 580/1060 did their jobs exceptionally well imo
Yeah it's a real shame that AMD have killed driver support for the 400/500 series the 8GB cards especially have life left in them
@@Al3ksandrOrlov I mean those GPU's are very old to be sure. I wish they could just lower the prices on the 7600/7600 XT once and for all.
That's effen crazy. It feels like yesterday I was still using my gtx470 with 1.5 gigs or vram. Now 4 gigs is going obsolete. I'm so glad I only play ARK.
It's not a bad card but it's only because I'm finishing a lot of backlog games from 2014+ but will be replacing it soon. Good budget card if you have a ton of pre-ps5 era type games to play, also emulates nintendo switch perfectly.
as a previous 1650 super owner i remember running games very smoothly, now that my sister has gotten a pc i gave her my old gpu for free and somehow it runs the same mc shader i ran at 80fps it now runs it at 20 for her. Newer shader version ofc
i just bough gtx 1650 super and after seeing this, i hope i don't regret it. since mostly the game i play AAA games type, thanks for make this video. god bless u and everyone read this.😆😆
AAA, you're gonna regret it. Probably play on 720p.😊
@@guyza123 how do u know i playing on 720p 🥲 (I still use it since 2015 first bought)
serius lu bro beli 1650 super di 2023 ? dari harga aja lu udah bisa dapet rtx 2060 bekas 😂 stupid banget pilihan lu
@@Eleganttf2 hahahahaha, iya stupid banget sih aku beli itu di 2023 padahal bisa dapet second rtx 2060. dan stupidnya lagi aku lupa bilang kalau aku beli gtx 1650 super itu second. wah aku melihat kebodohan ku dari orang yang lebih bodoh tanpa mikir kalau bisa aja aku beli gtx 1650 super itu second hahahaha.
Well shit, I bought a 1650 this year.
Though, it was like half of the retail price and light used while still coming with the box.
Let's see how long it holds up. I think the budget build office PC will be the first roadblock and is kind of already, but it is fine for what I do.
Why that low end GPU?
for new games, not so much. but will say its THE best for a budget for older titles and retro
It could be a suitable budget build part for say 6th - 9th gen i5's or any ryzen based cpu but it's not winning any medals except budget.
As a first gpu in a budget build up I'd say it'll do, for a month or 2. 😆
But seriously, with the price of 1660 class cards and 1070's dipping below 100 if you get lucky, at this point it's most likely use is in a spare part ultra budget build, sub 200 class.
Can confirm my 1650 is kinda losing the ability tonplay triple a titles even at min 1080p
I'm upgrading from this to a 6650xt or a 6700xt (if I have the extra cash) It served me well but I honestly want to play the newer games.
Can you add Alan Wake 2 to the benchmarks run?
"If it can't play on ultra it's trash!" dear lord i hope I never meet someone that privileged
I get a vram warning every time i launch forza lol, I'm currently using a 3060 ti 8gb and running forza at 1440p ultra
Also this channel is a gem in the tech world, get this man more subscribers!
what is saving the card is the ability to use shared ram although you take a performance hit. Nvidia's Drivers will default 20gb as shared unless you change it in the control panel
The troopers with the 960 have earned my respect many time already, they have earned it once more
My 5600xt still holding it's own @1080p, I puckered my hole & dared an OC on my RAM (kingston Fury 3200 CL16 > 3600 CL16) cranked the GPU power slider to +10, left the mem well alone, v2 bios, screams if I go 1mhz over 1750. Core mhz to 1820 not that it does anything & voltage to 0.98v. In cp2077 I get a flat line graph with the slight stutter when auto saving that I found was on my SATA OS drive not the install m.2 gen4, which is annoying, but playable on medium. Now my 960 4GB well...✌
Hello could do me a Favor and do a Comparison Video of the 1650s vs RX 580 on old system CPU like i5 2500 / i7 2600 or i7 4770 with these Video Cards. I’m pending on buying some Used Video Cards or RX6600 instead unless Nvidia or AMD release a 1030 GT or RX 6400 replacement LP cards as the 4060 single is quite steep at $300-400.
Yes I would prefer Nvidia release new 1050ti or 1030LP / no extra Power connectors need that runs off of the 75w from PCIe Slot.
I know Maxwell is a bit long in the teeth by now, but the latest Nvidia driver supposedly addresses the unusually bad performance in Halo: Infinite on Maxwell GPUs so I think maybe a video on a performance comparison between the current and previous drivers might be interesting seeing as the game is in your benchmark suite, and I know there are still people on those GPUs.
Both Maxwell and Pascal are obsolete know.
@@ZackSNetwork And this channel regularly tests “obsolete” hardware so that’s a moot point. This isn’t LTT or GN here.
You should use fsr quality in these too.
It's stupid not to.
4 years ago I got my first ever PC capable of gaming, it had a 1660 super 6GB. I switched to the rx 7800xt after I noticed that playing new games on ultra yielded below 60 fps. Gotta say, the experience did not scale with VRAM. I think the main issue with modern titles is that developers do not care for optimizations anymore since they are too spoiled with the new cards.
my 1660 super handled Cyberpunk at launch with highest settings (no RT obviously) with a solid 60+ fps with minimal bugs (I got that system because it fullfiled the minimal specs back then) Everyone feels entitled, prices are through the roof and games just suck now. Imma go play some half life now. Bye
I have the a380 and my brother still has a 1050ti, my brother is about to upgrade and I might swap my a380 for his 1050ti just because some games simply won't work on my a380
Im pushing my msi 1650 as hard as I possibly can. Overclocking on every component to the max, no services in the background, extreme scaling optimizations... And its hinestly still pleasant. 1080p medium-high 60fps is still doable, and VR is honestly quite doable through virtual desktop and such.
I really need to upgrade from this card. Hoping I can get the 4070 on a sale.
Holy shit that transition to Re4 was crazy
Yeah we have reached a time where the average vram needs in gaming have moved forward again... No matter the settings, Even base graphic level of games are eating more than 4G at least.. And even 6GB in some games (which is crazy). If you are gamer but don't just play older titles or weaker games, 4GB really isn't enough anymore.. And 6GB is the bare minimum you should rock with (even then you will still find yourself hitting a ceiling along the way).
If you enjoyed the tone and abstract plotting of Control I think you'll probably enjoy Alan Wake II. It's like a mix between RE4 Remake and Control with a big ol' scoop of True Detective. It's one of my favourite games of the year and if you have a 3070 like I seem to recall you do, you should be able to play it at decent settings and performance.
I'll take a remake of an old game over a walking sim any day.
I cant enjoy it if it cant run properly on any gpus 😂
Decent gpu in my opinion
it was decent
TY
You need to run the texture mod for Starfield it helps a lot on weaker cards 👺
I have seeing onsale right now Online shop and Facebook marketplace that the 16 Series are being good aftermarket even 2nd hand, should I upgrade my Colorful 1050ti 4gb to Colorful 1660 8gb?
Afaik the 1660 is only available in 6GB, so that might be a typo? Anyway, I’ve never tested a 1660 but I’m sure it’s fine. You might want to consider an RX 5700 XT instead, if you don’t mind switching to AMD.
@@IcebergTech I rechecked sorry it was 6gb, was it worth it? it was PHP 6,800 cost as 2nd hand unit idk if that would ends up 4-5 years lifespan, it has box, Idk if I get it. My 1050ti still running or I will let it die first and save my money?
@@IcebergTech My CPU was also AMD which is Ryzen 5 4600G, Thank you for giving me Idea RX 5700 XT might be overpriced for now so I must save up some pocket money first or sold my current 1050ti to facebook store, I do remember my uncle saying Crossfire thing when using both AMD and Ryzen 5 could be activated.
@@IcebergTech It was Colorful Battle-Ax 1660 Super 6GB, I go passed on skipping it.
I have a 1660ti 6gb gddr6 and its still too little, 1080p... also pls do a vid on live riva stats