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- Опубліковано 12 сер 2024
- I recently picked up super-cheap CPU from a local CEX and even though it's a few years old, I couldn't resist for the price. At just £1 ($1.20) this processor is worth all 100 pennies.
0:00 Intro
1:24 Call of Duty Warzone
2:48 Counter-Strike 2
3:46 Cyberpunk 2077
4:54 Fortnite
5:58 Grand Theft Auto V
6:48 Minecraft
7:34 Red Dead Redemption 2
8:33 Final Thoughts
Thanks for watching :)
I can confirm that CoD recompiles his shaders at every new driver update or just update of the game
Ah ok thought so
It is very painful @@RandomGaminginHD
Dead Island 2 does that too. It's only painful the first time you load them, after that it takes less than 10 seconds atleast on my pc
@@devisals I found it only painful on Cold War, I have to find something to do for an hour 😂 But other Cod games it's pretty quick.
@@devisalsrofl
The 4th gen Intel CPUS were legendary I still have a couple that are still functioning. Getting this CPU for a single pound is a steal
I might not watch every video when it comes out, but it's always so fun to watch modern "reviews" on just random pc parts
It is impressive how good the used market for gaming in the UK is. Unfortunately over here people would rather hoard old tech rather than selling it for cheap.
This is what is so much fun - seeing what you can get out of the cheapest hardware you can find. I wonder what the cheapest GPU CEX have in stock is.
a gt 8800
I live in hope. because 2Gb ddr3 for laptops is currently 10p. another year (not far away now) and other computer components will cost so little, you could build a working system for probably less than £50 - less if you already have a computer case.
@@audiocoffeelaptops arent viable to upgrade, my msi i7 7700 1070ti laptop only cost like $400
you can. you can upgrade the memory and the hdd - done this far too often!! my next personal memory upgrade will be my ailing vista laptop. it's 17 years old and it does what I ask of it.
laptops that I acquire that lack a hdd get a hdd and a memory upgrade. then I install whichever flavour of linux best suits it. got ubuntu studio running on an old HP laptop purely because the soundcard on it is a good one and I can install cakewalk/lmms on it with no issue. the main cause for a lot of laptops getting disposed of, is because the mobo battery died (not the big bulky battery on the back of it, the small flat battery inside). there is no such thing as 'can't'. oh - and my asus all-in-one PC defo needs more ram - now that's the challenge!! (but once done, it'll be easy to do on the next one). my hobby? fixing computers. I don't usually make a song and dance about it because I don't have to. I also help people with their tech and guide them on how to use it. macs included! I love recent old tech. writing this on a 7 year old w10 craptop with a bust keyboard and other things on it starting to crap out - and I'll use it until the day it dies. and then I'll restore it. @@tatemushroom1002
Currently, it's an ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB for £2
Love the principle of this build and video. Not everyone can afford to do more. Inspires folks to make do and be challenged by it.
This gen has been peak for some price category basically since its release. Now we're rounding out the 1 dollar price point, and its still ruling for that price.
When I built my first custom built pc in 2015, I started with i3-4160 and 8 gigs of ram and a 750ti. It served me well up until 2019 when I upgraded to rx 580 and i squeezed two more years out of that little CPU. Good memories. Mostly played single player games so I was happy with it. Edit:- and I can confirm that this is exactly the cooler we got back in the day and it came with pre applied thermal compound which worked well.
I just upgraded from this to a 10100, it served me right while it lasted
how much faster does ur pc and gaming feel
@@quintogala8661 a lot better before on rdr2 for example i was getting the fps seen in this video now i am getting 60-70
@@camillethesteelshadow1549 okay am I also exited moving from i5 3470 to a 10400f
@@quintogala8661why not go with a ryzen 5 3600? Has a great upgrade path probably will be able to upgrade to a ryzen 9 5950x in 5 years for less than £70
You should've got a 10400f, it's not that much more expensive and it's WAAAY better in every way possible. Anyway, have a good time with you new CPU, it's not the best but it's still really capable !
My girlfriend still uses my old i5 4570. That is her monstrous "gaming PC" :) I still think it's impressive of how much fun you can have with old hardware... She doesn't play the latest AAA single player games. But rather party games, older titles, indies and emulation. Games like, Tetris Effect, Overcooked 2, Gang Beasts, Huntdown, Stardew Valley, The Sims 4, Dirt3 (oh yeah, remember when racing games still had split screen, good times)... Even 10 year old hardware is plenty these days. And I think we will keep the computer for many years to come (just need to switch to Linux)
I love clicking autoplay when i am drunk on your videos because they are so entertaining to listen to
Always happy to see your videos! Keep making em brother! Ill always watch
I had this cpu fpor about half a year or so this year, it was such a big upgrade from my core 2 quad and i even made a video on it😅 recently upgraded to the i5 4570 which was also a big improvement as it can now turbo boost and has 4 cores lol
For minecraft you should use the sodium mod, it tends to increase performance significantly and usually fixes some of the stutter, as it allows the game to use all of the cores in your system, as opposed to just one, and most people use this mod as even with more powerful cpus the game has performance and stuttering issues
I love those type of videos!
This was the processor I bought for my wife's (or girlfriend back then) PC back in 2015 as part of a budget build, and it was a great processor for the time. Since then, I've upgraded our PC to an i7 4790, which is still great today.
how does that dinosaur of an i7 hold up today
@@GewelReal It's not bad, but with it being combined with a GTX 970, it's certainly showing its age
@@RedBeardedGriff yeah a lot of games nowadays really want at least 6-8 cores or else you get nasty stutter
@@Nintenboy01 That's why I tend to avoid playing most newer AAA games with it today.
I paired this CPU with a 750 ti back in the day, matched up really well.
Same here, but with its little brother, the i3-4150. Great budget build for the time!
@@Rockden Same here, as living room PC in a low profile case with the graphics card having it's loud fans swapped for more silent ones
the 4170 is still a capable CPU... Just not for gaming.
I used this in my office machine till last year when i upgraded to 8th gen i5 PC.
The biggest limitation i believe was the RAM. 8GB is not enough anymore. Not even for office work
While it’s still capable a i5 of the same gen can be got for very little more and preforms way better
As someone who does multimedia on a Core 2, yup, the old chips are still capable, but not for high end gaming.
@@HappyBeezerStudios which core 2 Duo,Quad,Extreme or centrino
@@CollynPlayz more precisely a Xeon
@@HappyBeezerStudios cool
Might want to list the exact processor name in the description or even title, so that people who specifically look for benchmarks of rhis CPU will find this.
I don't even have a low spec PC anymore but I still enjoy watching your videos !
Just for some context on the CS2 result; Ever since the beta people have been experiencing frame drops in deathmatch, at this point it might be fixed but i remember on release a pro player showed that even with his top end pc, every time he reached around 40 kills in deathmatch, his fps would be roughly a quarter of what he started with.
People were theorizing it's from the buildup of decals like blood and bullet holes, which is worsened by the fact that they removed the command r_cleardecals.
Banger vid as always Steve! Brings back memories, I had one of these back when they first released but upgraded to 4670K not too long afterwards
Nice upgrade, I had the 4460 myself. Loved it!
I grabbed a 4670K for £10 for a starter build made from a gutted 3020 Optiplex for my nephew. Paired it with a 480 8GB and I am pretty impressed with how it runs.
@@RandomGaminginHD Would be awesome if you can find a 4460 or the 4670k and do a vid on their performance in 2023 though, those little quad cores were awesome back in the day
I am always impressed by Haswell. Lesser chips struggle where Haswell pulls through. It has AVX 2 and it a great starting point for any PC Gamer that wants to explore the back catalog of games. I am not a huge fan of the i3s do to lack of power, but all of the i5s and i7s are just fabulous entry level CPUs for people that want to get their feet wet but don't know if it's something they want to spend a fortune on yet. Also great for kids that already like the soft titles like Minecraft, Fortnite, Roblox, Terraria and their ilk. Games like Skyrim and GTA V run great when you pair one of the aforementioned processors with an inexpensive GPU, like the $60 1070 in this video or a $40 RX 580 8GB. And now you have a great experience at 1080p High or even 4K Low. There is still life left in the chips themselves so I find it sad that one has to mod one's bios or disable features to get Win 11 to run but Win 10 is still here for a couple of years.and is a smoother experience that was designed for that hardware anyway. Then you also have Linux. Yes, these chips still have some life in them for just the right situations and games.
the channels core competence. 💪 (and my attempt at a play an words in a foreign language)
Awesome content as always
Interesting video, like!
I'd be interested to see how you're getting on with the whole build. I'm doing a similar project myself but I'm struggling to get a PSU (even junk tier) for less than the rest of the build put together
Awesome performance from this CPU 😮
3:15 Apparently Valve doesnt remove decals from the map like blood splatter they just end up becoming transparent textures and thats probably why the performance gets worst over the course of the match
esports ready
This CPU is what I use for 5 years of gaming 😎
Man, I'm so sorry. I've been using a i5 6600 (non-k) for 8 years. Very little bottleneck for my GTX 1070.
really? I had a i5 4460 paired with a rx 580 for a few years and it was an absolute disaster. the card was literally too fast for the i5@@SiXiam
@@sms-ux5klThat doesn't make much sense. My i5 is a little over 20% faster than your i5 and my GPU about 30% faster. Hard to believe your CPU was such an extreme GPU bottleneck. Unless you are playing CPU bound games. Fortnite is well known for that among others.
@@SiXiam Fortnite, gta 5, battlefield 1(disaster), warzone, black ops Cold War.
@@sms-ux5klBro these games struggle even on some modern CPU's, my R5 3600 Bottleneck my 6650XT on gta 5 💀
Not bad for a 2 core (hyperthreaded) CPU from a few years ago, and for that price, can't complain. Maybe not a gaming CPU anymore, but if you want to fire up some of the classics, or just for day to day usage within Windows, well you can't go wrong.
Its crazy how much cpu and gpu power you can get for next to nothing (and at times literally nothing) nowadays.
I know vs modern gear this sort of gear is archaic, but that doesnt stop it being capable of playing decades worth of games very well, even if you put in a weaker/cheaper gpu there's still more fun to be had than a person could utilise in their lifetimes, albeit having to be selective with newer titles.
It's also just so much fun trying to put together machines as cheaply as possible.
Ive had that bug for a while and its taking over my house :)
Have an i9-13900k/64GB/6TB nvme.m2 storage (4TBxgen4, 2TBxgen3)/rtx 4080 system as a main rig, and still have the r9 5900x/48GB/rtx 3080 system that I used before that and the r9 3950x/32GB/2080 super I used before that, so its not like I dont have other options, but I think I probably get more fun from playing with whatever Ive been able to put together very cheap that day/week. Definitely less fun for modern usage, but overall it's an absolute blast :)
i had a optiplex with a I3-4150 not that long ago paired with a radeon HD6970. i spent about 20€ total on the system total, and i could play most of the games i liked at the time
A cheapest build video would be pretty cool.
no complaints at £1, i seem to remember asrock had a bios for the h81 chipset that bypassed the locked cpu clock allowing it to be turned into a overclocked toaster for some nice free gains
awesome vid as always, have you given intel presentmon a try for benchmarking? its really a nice new tool for show cpu/gpu bottlenecks
The cs2 issue is an interesting one. There's definitely weird issues with modern software and older hardware, although they seem to be able to perform. Nvidia had huge input lag issues on windows xp when windows 8 was the norm. Vulkan rendering the same on windows 7. As a rule of thumb, always play games for systems they were made for. Old or new, otherwise you're gonna have issues that wouldn't be there otherwise
I think the frame rate going lower overtime is the driver seems to be a memory leak with the latest one and seems to be fixed on the latest hot fix driver (Alan wake 2 performance degradation related)
I find the outdoor tech broll shots to be iconic for this channel but there is something offputting about seeing a graphics card or whatever in his garden lol
I had picked up a i7-4790 paired with an OEM motherboard to build my youngest brother a gaming PC about 3 years ago now. I required making a custom cable to connect the motherboard to the case buttons. And also had to bridge a couple of pins so it would think the original case was closed. Paired it with gtx 750 ti at the time. I think it is time to upgrade his GPU to a rx 580 8gb.
When i went to london to london this summer i went to cex for the first time and bought an intel 4460 for 4£ as a souvenir. I still cant try it but definetely one my favorite souvenir i ever bought
I know this doesn't really have to do with the video, but literally 2 days after watching your video I got a motherboard (MSI h81i) motherboard for free with a intel core i3 4170. Came without ram but I have plenty myself. Will be cool to test myself! And maybe sell later on.
I think a revisit to AMD's FX series processors would be cool to watch and see if they are capable of anything in 2023.
No it wouldn't, and they weren't even capable when new
Makes for a pretty decent keychain imo. In all seriousness though, they're not quite obsolete, but they're well on their way.
They were already pretty terrible back then.
I'd rather revisit 1st gen Ryzen
hey, I'm using a AMD A8-7600 paired with RX580, maxed ram of 32GB 2133 ddr3, and most games play high settings 1080p 65+fps
To be honest anything AMD before Ryzen was trash
I had i3 4170 with 750ti 2018-2022 it served me good for my needs and in 2022 i finally decided to upgrade to i5 11400f and rtx 3050
I've got an old tin box HP z400 with an Xeon W3565 3.2 quadcore, 12GB DDR3 1333Mhz.. a GTX 1050 2GB and an ssd. It should run Warzone but I can't seem to get it loaded. Is this cause I use a diverent system?
If it's a simpel fix with a Bios update.. please let me know.
Bin a fan for years of your work!
Had this cpu paired with rx560 for many years. I recently replaced it with the best xeon for the socket.
I still keep this old one in the drawer
New to the channel, i love your content :=)
Thanks and welcome!
@@RandomGaminginHD
I've managed to play a few games pretty well on an old Xeon 4C/8T DDR3 setup I've bodged together off Ebay bits and paired with my RX 6600.
It is very weird and funny to see you play minecraft, hope to see you test gpus with minecraft with rethinking voxels as shaders because it runs bad even on my RTX 2070!
Ladies and gentlemen. We are now in a world where retro is running 95%+ of the best games ever made using a one quid CPU.
I bought an i7 4790k in 2014, and I still use it with a gtx 1660 super , 2x 8gb ddr3. I don't think so I need to upgrade for now. It's still buttery smooth and I don't have any issues with it
I am looking forward to your 1£ PSU video. It is guaranteed to be a smoke show!
That will be the most painful part. For the rest it usually comes down to used parts, but bad PSUs can literally explode.
But there are god inexpensive ones. I remember snatching a 350W FSP one for 15€ to power a smaller system.
That kind of PSU should have no issue running that i3 and a fitting GPU.
this cpu can make a nice home server like a nas
Counter Strike 2 also is more optimized in 5v5 than in Deathmatch/Casual. So if you can get a solid 60 in non 5v5, it will do even better in 5v5 which is the primary mode anyways.
Keep it up RGHD
I agree with the cs2 issue, ihave the same issue even though i have the i5 4430 i still encounter stuttering. There will be times that it will freeze and will never work anymore and i have to reset the pc. Luckily, i have an oncoming i7 4790 hopefully the cs2 stuttering will not happen anymore. ❤
when benchmarking a gaming pc I had the sam issue with cs 2 where the fps declined as the game progressed, I was testing a i7 4790 with the gtx 1660 super
my first desktop cpu (back in 2014) was a similar i3 4130, was great for gaming. I'm still on the same platform with an i7 4790K xD
Everytime I changed my video driver for my RTX4060, the shaders in Starfield had to be redone. So yea, I would imagine that would apply to other games as well.
Pound shop pc challenge 😀
I've got e e3-1240 and a gtx 1080, 16gb ddr3 ram and 1tb of sshd, 512gb of ssd and 320gb of hdd and i spent less than £200 on it, and i-m quite happy with it : )
The GTX 1070 is one of the best cards for its price back in 2016/2017.
Its 8 GB VRam are still useful.
I used it 5 years with the Ryzen 5 1600, very good pairing.
Now my RX 6700 XT has about double the performance with the R7 3700X for decent money.
Reminds me of my first build! I had a i3-4130 with a 1050ti. I used that pc for about 10 years, and although I have since upgraded, that build is still going strong! About to hand it down to my fiancés brother
4130 came out in 2013 so I guess you just very recently let it go?
@@Nintenboy01 I still have it actually, just have a different build but I see what you’re saying lol, I just mean that I’ve had it for a very long time
My 2nd computer was a Dell 3020 that was an unused spare from a franchise. Was given to me for free. Put a 750Ti in it and it lasted me for years. Played World of Tanks fine.
I am currently using i3-2120 (2nd gen) for my day to day use. With 4 gb ddr3 ram...&its running windows 10 pro..thats running great..even i tried old NFS games...with its integrated graphics😅...its runs well..
legitimately surprised at how well this CPU handled those games, considering its age and all. i use an AMD PRO A6-8570 at work, a 2C/2T CPU from 2018 and probably the worst CPU you can put into an AM4 socket, and that chip is struggling with doing even the most basic things sometimes
Two slow cores are indeed painful. Exchange that for a Phenom II X4 or Core 2 Quad and the same tasks would fly.
When i returned to pc gaming in 2015 (after my kid had goown up a little) i build a pc with core i3 4160 and a brand new gtx 960 2gb that i still have and it ndidn't left me down in any game... I ran gta V very nice and had no complaints
Nice :)
I think everyones FPS is currently going down over the course of a match in CS2. This is especially true in Deathmatch. Competitve seems to be fine or much less effected by it.
Im boutta see 10 ppl comment random stuff to try to get likes as fast as possible
you know the drill
"Im starting with the man in the mirror"
u?😊
You kinda did it?
Kind of ironic but my point still stands
btw could you do...
ehem...
720p resolutions benchmark? well... with this absolute cheap price cpu will be interest for starter/low budget pc user that i think some of them will accept using 720p as long they can get smooth experience of it, also for my curiousity because nowadays people seldom benchmarking using 720p.
i know some folks of the linux community can be annoying, but i actually think it would be a fun video to compare the performance of the lowest cost system between windoes and a lightweight linux distro
And an actual light and fast OS too would be a nice comparison. Linux, even the lightest weight distros really arent as efficient and fast as people suggest when compared to *actual* fast and efficient OSes (AROS for example)
@@beezle1976Interesting, but when the best it can do is a text-based browser, it's not very practical.
On this CPU, there won't be any problems running Linux. Sandy Bridge of 2011 and newer all run Linux well. I'm not 100% sure about the generation prior, but I'm thinking it too should be okay. It's not until you go back to the Core 2 Duo / Quad era that Linux starts to struggle with video playback due to graphics drivers. The desktop versions might be able to brute force compute fast enough to make up for hardware acceleration, but the laptops definitely can't. If you have a well-supported GPU. I'm not sure how well anything before that supports 64 bit (a lot of major distributions dropped 32 bit support). You'll also start to become more limited by which instructions the CPU supports. Basically, the comparison between Windows and Linux isn't useful because if you pick Linux favorable hardware (namely supported GPU for video playback), older systems do fine with Linux up to the age that they don't, at which point they also aren't going to have a good time in Windows.
The comparison would obviously come down to tasks people would to with them. Including gaming.
a yyear ago i have gotten that exact same cpu from an old prebuilt. great for retro gaming
I once got a few(like 20ish) sealed Kingston A400 240gb SSD with a HP ProDesk(2013), a HP EliteDisplay 232, a HP ProBook(2015), a Dell Latitude E6430 and a few(like 5) Dell OEM Wi-Fi cards for the Optiplex 7010. All of that was for DISCARD on the office that i used to work, they had much better hardware tough... still discarding seems a bit dumb on their part, luckily a salvaged those stuff. The relation to this video is that the ProDesk was powered by a i5 4590 and 16gb(4x4gb) of DDR3 1600mhz CL10, for 0$ i think it's not that bad...
I used to have this cpu and it was a nice boost over my first cpu which was the pentium G3250. long after I upgraded to 4790 non K and that was the last of it
You can get a i3 6100 over here in Ireland in cex for just €1
I am gaming using a core i3 3220 , which is 8 years old . I paired it with a gt 1030 and i am kidda enjoying playing games like Gta 5 , CS go , rocket league and even far cry 4,5 and new dawn with it . although the 1% lows are terrible but still i am able to play with it because as we say " satisfaction is the greatest happiness"
Edit - i don't know why am i so underrated
Well I never lost hope
Pentium g4560 is also £1 at CEX...perhaps worth a look at for your next video?
its common ocurence that fps keeps getting lower and lower in CS2 deathmatch. I get it too starting with 250 and towards the end its around 130-140. I think all the blood and bulet decals cause it
I know it's convenient, but I think it'd be more realistic to test parts in a case than the open air setup. Like when you referred to the CPU temps being good via stock cooler.
I think You should include Alan Wake 2 with mesh shaders in Your tests. :D
Hi, can you please compare it with ryzen 3 1200?
This CPU is what I use from 2014 -2024 . i3 -4170 + GT 730
i used i5-4760k for really long time and i couldnt say it was bad
cs2 was completly playable but i do use 1024x768, so... yeah
is it .. good for recording games or ..streaming with obs
Those older dual cores are still capable for a lot of uses. Not for high end gaming, but with lowered expectations they are still great. And dirt cheap.
This is a CPU I never, ever hear about - glad to see you give it air time. I'd love to see a video comparing the evolution of two core, four thread CPUs (and compared performance) - ending with the Pentium G7400 (which I just made myself a build with, oddly my favorite personal build for now). When paired with DDR5 ram, solid state storage and reasonable overkill on the GPU - that little Pentium really does OK, much better than this... Makes me curious, what were the best 2 core CPUs?
The best dual core would probably the one with the highest click and IPC. So a new-ish chip that can boost high.
So I would argue the G7400 is a good contender, but the G6605 is also in the race. A bit older, but clocks higher.
There were "core"-labelled ones on mobile with that config up until quite recently, last mobile """"i5""" was 8th gen..
@@olnnn hm, the i5-1345U could be in the race. raptor lake cores, boost up to 4.7 GHz and 55 w boost tdp. but that is also a hybrid chip with 8 e-cores.
besides that the i5-8310Y, but that is limited to 7W and a max boost of 3.9
and the i3-1115G4, with a boost of 4.1 and max 28W
With these mobile chips power consumption is usually the limiting factor. And they're soldered into Notebooks, not easy to test them with dedicated GPUs and against other chips on the same platform.
@@HappyBeezerStudios Yeah I doubt the mobile dual cores are able to match the G7400, they'll be way too limited by power already and are usually limited to only run at max boost for a very short time even then, and an older generation. Was more as a note if one wanted to cover the "history" of 2-core/4-thread and one of the later places where the saw some use.
4:01 please carry out this test in the “dogtown” district. This is significantly more demanding than other parts of the city. You'll need the new DLC called "Phantom Liberty" for this, but maybe it's worth it. On my channel I uploaded a video demonstration (normally I have over 55fps).
my first pc was with a core i3 4130, i upgraded to a I5 4570 then now i have a ryzen 5 3600x pretty big jump but the cpu and motherboard was only 69.93 from facebook market place
I know my old i7-4770 came with a stock cooler with the copper slug in it, not sure if the i3 sku would've come with that cooler though.
i3 just came with the solid Aluminium one Steve used here
How did u manage to get rivatuner to work in cs2?
I still have a 4770 in use in one of my systems, last of the DDR3 era. Just feels great to have a Haswell in the mix. Will be sad when it's totally unusable.
you can still run some newer games that don't require AVX or certain SSE instructions on a Core 2 Quad or AMD Phenom II, but it's not a pretty sight
I have lost nnn to this 🔥🔥🔥
the issue you experienced in counter strike 2 is because you played on deathmatch mode and there is no way of disabling decals like we used to in csgo so the fps drops the longer you play the game
4170 is still quite good for a majority of games *obviously AAA recent releases are a problem* Haswell really holds up, especially if you were like me and picked up a i7 4790k when it was new. Only retired it in 2021.
I recently got from cex aswell a i7 920 and a i3 4330 for 50 cents each one
Im currently running r5 5600 with a amd stock cooler. While gaming it averages 80c under 24% usage. Is this normal?
i ran a 4170 till a couple weeks ago, now running a 4790s, there is only one way i can describe my time with that i3: "Pain And Agony". and thinking i didn't even pair it with the most powerful gpu out here, i have an rx 550. the pc is a lenovo e73 sff
when you test minecraft, are you using java or bedrock?
I'm impressed
man i regret not buying one when i had the chance. instead i went for a ryzen 2200g spending way more when i could've bought an i3 or 5 and a gpu.
also yes one thing about haswell is system response. my pentium g3250 feels way faster than my ryzen on windows 10 while using up to 12w of power lol