I have had and have both ferrari's and ducatis for over 24 years. I learned a long time ago to take anything the dealers say about belts with a pinch of salt. For example on a ferrari it was originally said change belts after 3 years in the UK, at the same time they were saying 5 years in the USA. Then they changed it from 3 to 5 years. Now owners wait until between 5 and 8 years. Its the same with ducati, that's why it's called a ducati tax. Every time I have checked desmo valves they have never needed adjusting. As for the belts, it's your choice as to when they are changed. So yours had gone over the time suggested by ducati by 5 years. And I bet them belts and tensioner were looking as good as new when removed , also I bet the valves needed very little attention. Hey I'm just saying, that's real world owning and working on Italian belt driven machines. Not seen many belts let go because the belts were old and weak, I have see tensioners loosen after a long and short period. Italians🙄
Yeah, exactly this. I guess it's better to lean towards caution (and more revenue) than to up the intervals and risk issues. Also these things are (mostly) never used as daily drivers, and tend to be well looked after anyway. Thanks for your comment!
Tbh, if you have Ducati and didnt know the service intervals for belts, you dont know about Ducati's :-) Ive just done mine, DIY job, easy and quick doing rhe actusl belt swap on a Ducati Monster 1100 Evo. The longest part is dismantling the bike to the point you can get to the belts, i.e. tank off, an exhaust pipe off. Not a hard job but the most time consuming part. Am i going to pay Ducati or a mechanic to do that? Nope, why would i. As i say, belt swap really easy, 10 minutes max once got access. Oh and you dont even need Ducati belts, there are other options, but as i was doing them myself, i paid the approx 100% premium over other options and did get official Ducati belts from a dealer, but thats simply a choice you can make doung this yourself.
I just had a 10,000 mile service on my HD Street Glide in the US. Not a special service, just an ordinary check up. $725 USD. Considering you had a timing belt change, your service charge was a bargain.
Learn to do your own maintenance on your Harley. I did and really enjoy working on my bike at my pace. There’s a lot of good info on UA-cam. I even swapped out my cam and oil pump. Take your time and pay attention.
'23 Aprilia Tuono 660 Factory: $10,999.00. First Service: $3,025.13. OK, I did install a few things (apparently, well over $2k in labor!!!) Yes, it hurt. No, I'm not satisfied...but, I pick it up in April all shiny, clean & serviced!
@TABonTV Absolutely!!! $11K isn't cheap, but, I was told that I had lung cancer the day AFTER I bought it?! Well, even though treatment was difficult, the bike has been my motivation to get better. It's helped keep a smile on my face, motivated recovery & boy it's a tough master.on hard days! I do love it & fell in love on the test ride. Love @ 1st ride.
I had a 2011 for 10 years, had 2 lcd screens cost £900each, 13 pressure sensors £320ea fitted, 5 x belts and clearance checked £2300ea time. Finally sold it as was not worth the expense.
@@TABonTV don’t get me wrong nice bike but just expensive and over here in the uk dealerships are far and wide, they closed pboro next nearest is Cambridge miles away.
I think it's pretty shocking what these dealers charge for servicing, lets face it most bikes arent ridden that much and tend to be well looked after, I just don't know how they can justify the prices. I have a multistrada 1260s 2018 model with only 5000 miles and the dealer in glasgow wanted £480 for an annual service after telling them I had already changed the oil, filter and flushed the brake/clutch fluid myself, it's shocking
It's not bad considering that you saved a bunch of money doing oil changes yourself. On Harley Davidson the first 1,000 mile service can be 500 dollars then 400 for the next service at 5,000 miles. I heard the Diavel V4 maintenance is supposed to be much more affordable because the service schedule at the dealer is spread out farther apart than on your bike. This is assuming that you continue to do basic things yourself like, oil changes and break fluid flush. ua-cam.com/video/mzsL2rLlO3c/v-deo.html
Aside from superbikes with a stratospheric red line, it's about time bike manufacturers showed more enthusiasm about the use of gear driven cams and hydraulic valve adjustment. Too much of a cash cow to slaughter, most likely. A noisier top end wouldn't bother me in the least.
@@PoweredbyRobots Very true. I recall the sound of a long deceased local's MV Agusta 750S as it started up and pulled away, with a fantastic whine from its top end.
Find yourself a decent independent ducati specialist my local one is literally half the hourly labour rate that a main dealer is
I have had and have both ferrari's and ducatis for over 24 years. I learned a long time ago to take anything the dealers say about belts with a pinch of salt. For example on a ferrari it was originally said change belts after 3 years in the UK, at the same time they were saying 5 years in the USA. Then they changed it from 3 to 5 years. Now owners wait until between 5 and 8 years. Its the same with ducati, that's why it's called a ducati tax. Every time I have checked desmo valves they have never needed adjusting.
As for the belts, it's your choice as to when they are changed. So yours had gone over the time suggested by ducati by 5 years. And I bet them belts and tensioner were looking as good as new when removed , also I bet the valves needed very little attention.
Hey I'm just saying, that's real world owning and working on Italian belt driven machines. Not seen many belts let go because the belts were old and weak, I have see tensioners loosen after a long and short period. Italians🙄
Yeah, exactly this. I guess it's better to lean towards caution (and more revenue) than to up the intervals and risk issues. Also these things are (mostly) never used as daily drivers, and tend to be well looked after anyway. Thanks for your comment!
Tbh, if you have Ducati and didnt know the service intervals for belts, you dont know about Ducati's :-)
Ive just done mine, DIY job, easy and quick doing rhe actusl belt swap on a Ducati Monster 1100 Evo. The longest part is dismantling the bike to the point you can get to the belts, i.e. tank off, an exhaust pipe off. Not a hard job but the most time consuming part. Am i going to pay Ducati or a mechanic to do that? Nope, why would i. As i say, belt swap really easy, 10 minutes max once got access.
Oh and you dont even need Ducati belts, there are other options, but as i was doing them myself, i paid the approx 100% premium over other options and did get official Ducati belts from a dealer, but thats simply a choice you can make doung this yourself.
Time goes quicker than you think...
I'm scared to get any italian motorcycles because of all the maintenance rumors, but after this video i might consider having one,
I just had a 10,000 mile service on my HD Street Glide in the US. Not a special service, just an ordinary check up. $725 USD. Considering you had a timing belt change, your service charge was a bargain.
Yeah, that does make my service look cheap! Ouch!
What did they do for $725?Seems like robbery considering harleys have hydraulic valves
@@ayangarcia339 Definitely a rip-off.
Learn to do your own maintenance on your Harley. I did and really enjoy working on my bike at my pace. There’s a lot of good info on UA-cam. I even swapped out my cam and oil pump. Take your time and pay attention.
Sounds cheap the labour, are you sure they did the valve clearances. Also, I noticed they've not changed the spark plugs ?
No valve clearances here, just belt replacement and service.
My fuel sensor on my Diavel is faulty...£15 for the sensor...£400 in labour to fit it....Bike is 2019 with 3000 miles on the clock 🙄
Yes, and it's quite a common replacement item on these, you'd think access would be easier...
Tab you’ve got all the stuffi want ! Car bike lol
Fancy selling the Diavel 😅 i will defiantly make use of it!
😂
Thank you for shivering this with us.
'23 Aprilia Tuono 660 Factory: $10,999.00. First Service: $3,025.13. OK, I did install a few things (apparently, well over $2k in labor!!!) Yes, it hurt. No, I'm not satisfied...but, I pick it up in April all shiny, clean & serviced!
Yeah, that hurt me a bit too just reading 😆 we do it for the love right?!
@TABonTV Absolutely!!! $11K isn't cheap, but, I was told that I had lung cancer the day AFTER I bought it?! Well, even though treatment was difficult, the bike has been my motivation to get better. It's helped keep a smile on my face, motivated recovery & boy it's a tough master.on hard days! I do love it & fell in love on the test ride. Love @ 1st ride.
That's expensive?
I had a 2011 for 10 years, had 2 lcd screens cost £900each, 13 pressure sensors £320ea fitted, 5 x belts and clearance checked £2300ea time. Finally sold it as was not worth the expense.
Yeah, that is getting pretty silly. Did you put a lot of miles on it?
@@TABonTV no, 11k over the years
@@MICHAELBURKE-u1d Sounds like you had a pretty poor experience - sorry to hear that
@@TABonTV don’t get me wrong nice bike but just expensive and over here in the uk dealerships are far and wide, they closed pboro next nearest is Cambridge miles away.
@@MICHAELBURKE-u1d all sounds like a sensible conclusion to me...
I think it's pretty shocking what these dealers charge for servicing, lets face it most bikes arent ridden that much and tend to be well looked after, I just don't know how they can justify the prices. I have a multistrada 1260s 2018 model with only 5000 miles and the dealer in glasgow wanted £480 for an annual service after telling them I had already changed the oil, filter and flushed the brake/clutch fluid myself, it's shocking
Yeah, it's not a cheap hobby any more!
I feel jebaited, doesn't seem too bad, not cheap but not as expensive as I thought, was expecting 4 figures.
£800 over 10 years. Certainly a saving over taking it in annually.
Yeah, good way to look at it 👍🏻
oh damn. I was expecting somewhere in the thousands. Guess I know what I'm getting.
Saved you some money then! 😆
It's not bad considering that you saved a bunch of money doing oil changes yourself. On Harley Davidson the first 1,000 mile service can be 500 dollars then 400 for the next service at 5,000 miles.
I heard the Diavel V4 maintenance is supposed to be much more affordable because the service schedule at the dealer is spread out farther apart than on your bike. This is assuming that you continue to do basic things yourself like, oil changes and break fluid flush.
ua-cam.com/video/mzsL2rLlO3c/v-deo.html
That is one way to look at things! I was tempted by the V4 but I was hoping for a big hike in power 😈
What's even the point of owning a bike if after 10 years it has 6k miles on it? Last Ducati I bought I put nearly 2k miles on it in 2 weeks.
That's still 6K more miles than if I didn't own one.
Also, not my only bike.
Aside from superbikes with a stratospheric red line, it's about time bike manufacturers showed more enthusiasm about the use of gear driven cams and hydraulic valve adjustment. Too much of a cash cow to slaughter, most likely. A noisier top end wouldn't bother me in the least.
I see your point here - I don't think most folk are too fussed about a noisy bike.
gear driven cams are heavy and expensive to engineer, hence they're only seen on bikes designed for love, not general sale, generally.
@@PoweredbyRobots Very true. I recall the sound of a long deceased local's MV Agusta 750S as it started up and pulled away, with a fantastic whine from its top end.
Me watching this while eating pineapple pizza👀
😂😂🍍🍕👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Think that is expensive come to Australia, Ducati servicing cost are insane.
Yeah, I've heard! Still cheaper to fly it to the UK 😆
Sweet bikes
How cheap.