@@Bassman743HD Wow, that’s exactly what I said, I don’t think I mentioned anything about the rest of the reel. There are a lot of parts that are not aluminum but the frame, again is aluminum. The chassis is for strength and the other parts that are not aluminum keeps the whole reel light weight in a sense. Do you actually own one? I have 3 of them.
I am in between these 2 reels, which is better from your perspective? There is a deal for VR 150 for about 280€ and TP is around 340-390€ depending on the size. I wanna use it with 30-100g SGS6 rod and want to fight some fish between 5-30kg range. At that price range there is also Authority and Tesoro too.
@ Depends on what I’m doing. VR150 for surf fishing, snapper and light bottom fishing, TP10000 for grouper, tuna and amberjack fishing. If I only can have one, the TP 10000, it can handle a wider range of fishing based on the rod you use.
Different applications honestly. Van Staal is what I went if I’m rock hopping and dunking my reel regularly. The Twin Power is light years smoother and more fun to fish so if I’m on a boat im choosing that reel over VS 100 times out of 100.
What would you do if you were in a kayak 90% of the time? I’m contemplating van staal. I just dunked my stradic 5k. Actually nah it flew into the saltwater and sat there for a minute. 😂
@@AttackYakChaos i think the smaller van staals are well suited on a kayak. I have a boat and a yak (I’m blessed) and my VR50 comes on every yak trip. For the reason you mentioned, frequent splashing and occasional dunk, they make sense for your application. Personally, I don’t love the larger van staals on a kayak due to their weight and bulk. Those reels are great when you can really lay into a big cast with a surf pole from the beach, but I find them cumbersome otherwise. VR50 - 75 or X2 50 would be an excellent yak reel if funds allow.
I've had a few van staals, every one had a jerky drag. They're good for montauk skishers. Very specialized. I'll take a saltiga or saragosa. Twin powers are great too. The made in china thing bothers me with van staal now. Wouldn't buy from our enemy.
A bearing on my Van Staal spool went. I had a big fish full drag, just about. Strong lines main line and leader. Took it came some, did that. Van Staal said they had trouble with the VR 50 doing that. They sent me a new one for free. I like the reel. But Im getting a Visser. The newest model.
Reeled mine underwater quite a few times, bought it in 2016. Not sure what to tell you. Did you look on their website or call them? Still working like a champ.
I mean, nobody is going to recommend you to operate their reel underwater, but of all the reels in our shop, I’d be most comfortable doing that with the van staal
@@tailwateroutfitters personally, I dunk all reels when the surf is rough, even my Mitchell 302 I got in France in 1968 and I still have it, just clean them ant they last
@@tailwateroutfitters if U dont mind, can i ask U another question, coz im intresting of Van Staal VR reel, If VR100 size , it does similir with 5000 size Twin power?
If you are very picky on smooth feel, ticking sound, tight tolerance n no gear whinny noise when you reel. Then Shimano TP is for you. If you are not a picky user, any reel is fine
I would recommend a twin power over a vr for the price, tp has much smoother drag and lots of it in the larger sizes, vr is not fully sealed as it is a different design from the fully sealed VS model
@@Zyl0n_yt I have talked to people who have serviced van staals for over 20 years this new vr model does not have nearly the same sealing as a VS would, twin power for pier fishing
@@Gottightt you think it has more power ? and stuf a lot of people perfer the vr of instead of the twin power whatt size twin power and rod should i pair it up with then?
I've got 3 Stella's. A pre 2018 model, an 18 and the 2022 model. I'll buy the new Stella when it comes. And I have a Van Staal VR 50. I take the Van Stall to salt water. Because the Shimano SW is water resistant I bought a Van Staal. A Van Staal get laid in the sand.
Hey Man!!! You are saying tjing seriously BUT YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU SPEAK!!! Twin Power DOES NOT have composite/Ci4+ body - IT IS FULL METAL/ALU BODY. The thing is it has a side cover mafe of Ci4+ composite, but that does not carry any serioua load, as all load is on body. The ALU / METAL Body. So PLEASE when You take something to speak,.know what You speak before You do.
Old VS before they sold off hands down over the twin power and this is coming from a Shimano fan But after VS sold off the reels and the customer service are complete junk / poop . So nowadays Twin Power all day long
Van Staal is honestly a cool looking reel and yes the best sealed reel. But that Chinese made stamp and price mark up doesn’t make any sense to me. Such a huge let down. Don’t even try to tell me they’re paying anywhere close to 6-$800 for them reels to be made. And I get it, it’s geared to different anglers who are “IN” the surf. But 98% of the time it’s Brand loyalists that will pay literally anything. Even if it’s made in Chinatown. Nothing beats the smoothness of a premium Japanese reel and the fact people try to tell themselves that van staal is the best out there is hilarious. And 90 percent of you are not diving in the dam water with this shit to even need one so stop. You all buy it because you think it’s an item you can flex or something like a badge of honor. 😂😂😂.
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Iv got the VR51, Visser #4 and the IRT 400. Iv cried 3 times lol. All three awesome reels, I put them up against any reel!
The SW TP body is fully Hagane metal, from body and spool, the only part that is CI4+ is the knob handle
Penn spinfisher does the job
spinfisher was broken after 1 year.
Lol
And don’t forget Penn reels are very heavy
not really
The VS is like a splitting axe compared to TP that is like a samurai sword, they have different purposes
I have them both VR150 and TP10000, bot are excellent. I trust my VS underwater but not my Shimano. The TP10000 is full aluminum chassis.
Wrong, TP chassis is hybrid. Half aluminum and side cap is plastic!
@@Bassman743HD Wow, that’s exactly what I said, I don’t think I mentioned anything about the rest of the reel. There are a lot of parts that are not aluminum but the frame, again is aluminum. The chassis is for strength and the other parts that are not aluminum keeps the whole reel light weight in a sense. Do you actually own one? I have 3 of them.
I am in between these 2 reels, which is better from your perspective? There is a deal for VR 150 for about 280€ and TP is around 340-390€ depending on the size. I wanna use it with 30-100g SGS6 rod and want to fight some fish between 5-30kg range. At that price range there is also Authority and Tesoro too.
which would you prefer ?
@ Depends on what I’m doing. VR150 for surf fishing, snapper and light bottom fishing, TP10000 for grouper, tuna and amberjack fishing. If I only can have one, the TP 10000, it can handle a wider range of fishing based on the rod you use.
Different applications honestly. Van Staal is what I went if I’m rock hopping and dunking my reel regularly. The Twin Power is light years smoother and more fun to fish so if I’m on a boat im choosing that reel over VS 100 times out of 100.
Agreed
What would you do if you were in a kayak 90% of the time? I’m contemplating van staal. I just dunked my stradic 5k. Actually nah it flew into the saltwater and sat there for a minute. 😂
@@AttackYakChaos i think the smaller van staals are well suited on a kayak. I have a boat and a yak (I’m blessed) and my VR50 comes on every yak trip. For the reason you mentioned, frequent splashing and occasional dunk, they make sense for your application.
Personally, I don’t love the larger van staals on a kayak due to their weight and bulk. Those reels are great when you can really lay into a big cast with a surf pole from the beach, but I find them cumbersome otherwise.
VR50 - 75 or X2 50 would be an excellent yak reel if funds allow.
The Twin power is now all metal like the Stella
Mostly all metal, but it does have a plastic side plate on the body. I’ve never heard of that being a failure point, but it’s indeed plastic
@tailwateroutfitters oh interesting. Thanks for the reply
So I’m a rookie I’m looking to buy some gear to get my feet wet would you recommend that I go with the Ci4 first ???
I would try some Penn battle series or Daiwa BG. Not too fancy and not too expensive but they still catch fish
What size is the twin power reel in the video?
I've had a few van staals, every one had a jerky drag. They're good for montauk skishers. Very specialized. I'll take a saltiga or saragosa. Twin powers are great too. The made in china thing bothers me with van staal now. Wouldn't buy from our enemy.
A bearing on my Van Staal spool went. I had a big fish full drag, just about. Strong lines main line and leader. Took it came some, did that. Van Staal said they had trouble with the VR 50 doing that. They sent me a new one for free. I like the reel. But Im getting a Visser. The newest model.
Sounds great!
Vs may wins in water protection dept, designe n maintenance , the rest goes for tp
I have the Shimano Twinpower 5000 and it's an awesome 👌 reel.The only thing is I wish they made a same round knobs like van staal.
Walmart on-line. Has them 50 bucks
Get the gomexus after market knobs for 25 bucks
i cried twice to buy both! 😁😁😁
Never owned a Van Staal, but when I watch videos, the drag seems sticky on intense run offs. That's why I went Shimano.
I am under the understanding that the van Staal.VR series can d
Be submerged BUT you cannot reel them under water, please correct me if I am wrong.
Reeled mine underwater quite a few times, bought it in 2016. Not sure what to tell you. Did you look on their website or call them? Still working like a champ.
I mean, nobody is going to recommend you to operate their reel underwater, but of all the reels in our shop, I’d be most comfortable doing that with the van staal
@@tailwateroutfitters personally, I dunk all reels when the surf is rough, even my Mitchell 302 I got in France in 1968 and I still have it, just clean them ant they last
Yes, you can reel them under water. Hope that helps
Hello , what size vr ? What size Shimano twin power , interesting compare size reels, thank you
The Twin Power is a 6000 and the VR is a 150
@@tailwateroutfitters thank you
What size of twin power sw reel? 4000? 5000?
The Twin Power is a 6000 and the VR is a 150
@@tailwateroutfitters if U dont mind, can i ask U another question, coz im intresting of Van Staal VR reel,
If VR100 size , it does similir with 5000 size Twin power?
If you are very picky on smooth feel, ticking sound, tight tolerance n no gear whinny noise when you reel. Then Shimano TP is for you.
If you are not a picky user, any reel is fine
Well said!
Nice review!
What’s a better reel, Gosa SW or Twin Power SW?
Trying to see where the benefits are?
Gosa SW, better bang for your buck
Which van stall vr model are right hand retrieve?
All right hand models end in a 1. So vr51, vr151 etc…
@@tailwateroutfitters thanks.
witch should i geti live in south florida i plan to do everything snook fishing
I would recommend a twin power over a vr for the price, tp has much smoother drag and lots of it in the larger sizes, vr is not fully sealed as it is a different design from the fully sealed VS model
@@Gottightt wdym its not fully sealed for the pier when the snook are under the pier what would you reccomend
@@Zyl0n_yt I have talked to people who have serviced van staals for over 20 years this new vr model does not have nearly the same sealing as a VS would, twin power for pier fishing
@@Gottightt you think it has more power ? and stuf a lot of people perfer the vr of instead of the twin power whatt size twin power and rod should i pair it up with then?
@@Gottightt please answer
Both underated
You don’t fish a lot in high action waters - large saltwater game , all day stalking trophy fish . Keep your zebco and penn good for catfish action .
I've got 3 Stella's. A pre 2018 model, an 18 and the 2022 model. I'll buy the new Stella when it comes. And I have a Van Staal VR 50. I take the Van Stall to salt water. Because the Shimano SW is water resistant I bought a Van Staal. A Van Staal get laid in the sand.
Trade vr150 with 200 rotor n spool for 6000 SW
Bruv the twin power is metal, just the rotor is ci4+ and side plate.
The rotor is metal I got one
@@SWslayinn Correct. The Stem and rotor are metal and the side plate is CI4+.
@@fadelover123 yessir finally someone got it right
I want a Visser. Only though the new model.
Have one first fish landed 100# plus tarpon .. honestly though I prefer shimano twin power for this type of fishing.
VR ALL THE WAY
Twinpower sw have an aluminum body
this is correct...all SW are all aluminum.
I think it’s half composite half Aluminium
@@AnglingAddictssrilanka not all sw has aluminum body
Twin Power SW has all aluminum body, I have a 10000 PG. Not sure about anything less than a 6000.
Hey Man!!!
You are saying tjing seriously BUT YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU SPEAK!!!
Twin Power DOES NOT have composite/Ci4+ body - IT IS FULL METAL/ALU BODY.
The thing is it has a side cover mafe of Ci4+ composite, but that does not carry any serioua load, as all load is on body. The ALU / METAL Body.
So PLEASE when You take something to speak,.know what You speak before You do.
🫡
Got that?? 😂 @@tailwateroutfitters
Old VS before they sold off hands down over the twin power and this is coming from a Shimano fan
But after VS sold off the reels and the customer service are complete junk / poop . So nowadays Twin Power all day long
Van Staal is honestly a cool looking reel and yes the best sealed reel. But that Chinese made stamp and price mark up doesn’t make any sense to me. Such a huge let down. Don’t even try to tell me they’re paying anywhere close to 6-$800 for them reels to be made. And I get it, it’s geared to different anglers who are “IN” the surf. But 98% of the time it’s Brand loyalists that will pay literally anything. Even if it’s made in Chinatown. Nothing beats the smoothness of a premium Japanese reel and the fact people try to tell themselves that van staal is the best out there is hilarious. And 90 percent of you are not diving in the dam water with this shit to even need one so stop. You all buy it because you think it’s an item you can flex or something like a badge of honor. 😂😂😂.