I have to say I am getting more tempted by this Kase system. I can't remember the last time I had to use a grad so moving to a purely circular system seems the way forward.
So far use of them has been great ! I’ve not missed the grad and the quality of the images have been without fault ( except for my own of course :-) ) Thanks for watching buddy
Hi Darren, I absolutely agree, the KW revolution filters are fantastic. You know, I also made already a video about them, where I came to the conclusion that it is not only the glass quality, which is really phenomenal for Kase filters in general, it is especially the usability. They simply listen to their clients. The colour coding, for instance, saves so much time, I would not like to miss that anymore. Also, the innovation is top with the inlaid adapter ring, magnetic lens hood, magnetic step-up-rings, and magnetic lens cap. Thanks for the video, buddy! Nice greetings, Christian
I got tempted by the proliferation of magnet filters that have come to the market in recent years and bought these Kase filters about 9 months ago. Whilst I like the convenience of the magnet and stackable ND's I've not been impressed with the performance of the CPL in this kit. It just doesn't polarise anywhere near as well as my previous screw-in B+W Kaseman CPL which I used for years. I also find rotating the magnetic CPL just awkward compared to the traditional rotating mounts. It's also flimsy, and I put mine in a pocket temporarily on a shoot recently, sat down and unfortunately it cracked and splintered. Not sure whether to replace it or go back replace it with the traditional screw-in type.
I’ve not had an issue with my polariser to be honest, I recently had an opportunity to compare to another brand while in the field and the Kase performed better! I wonder if the one you have had a flaw perhaps?
I still use my Case Wolverine and it doesn't seem like any big changes to cause me to spend that much money to replace. I used nail polish to color code a long time ago. Thanks for the video.
Kase magnetic system is really a good thing. I have the previous version (and suppose it does not worth the upgrade). Color coding simplified the things, but from my part I always put the same filter at the same place ;) Great review byt he way, at least for those who don't have such filter in their bag
I wonder why the color of your case is dark gray with a brown leather patch, and all other I have seen is light gray. Maybe they looked like this when they first came out? And then they quickly changed the look of the case?
I'm not a photographer, but my partner is. I've been researching filters for about a week now and have settled on Kase! Thanks for the great video! I am torn between this set and the set with square holder to use graduated ND filters. Would you say most photographers do this in post processing? I think the ability to use a lens hood would be nice, and since we often hike, it may be nice to have less things to mess around with. Any advice would be appreciated :)
Thank you very much ! Drop in filters are the ones I’ve used previously however they need mounting adaptors which means more to carry and more time to setup before shooting, Kase magnetic are simple and very handy ! Shots can be bracketed if needed but depending on how high the difference between dark and bright are in a scene it may not even be needed TK do to get the shot
Hi Darren, this looks good and is possibly inspired (aka close copy) of Maven magnetic system. How good do you find the magnetic performance? Is there any objective way to test and compare this? I have only ever seen subjective comments re magnetic performance, but many positive reviews are from those receiving 'free' samples (esp Neweer on Amazon). I have been researching the many different magnetic filter types/brands (eg K&F, Neweer, Freewell etc) available and suspect a common problem is weak/inferior magnets that also degrade over time, leading to filters dropping off (or knocked off) risking loss or damage. Optical quality in many of better systems looks pretty good and possibly isn't a meaningful discriminator. Also for video application how good, or otherwise, VNDs performed (colour bias, variation over density, X-pattern etc). I have used Polar Pro screw-on VNDs (well regarded) and found them great in convenience terms (once screwed on) but less accurate that true fixed NDs (true for all VNDs). So eventually concluded (perhaps no surprise) that everything is a compromise and perfection just doesn't exist in filters. Trade offs being cost, optical quality, convenience, robustness, size, heft, weight, limited range etc. I will use a matte box and large cinema size (4x5.65) fixed NDs for videography, when I'm seriously looking for quality - but that's not suited to quick, casual use, gimbal application, or really relevant to stills photography. Maven filters came well regarded/reviewed in respect of magnetic performance so I just bought a Maven set, but had considered Kase too. Also Polar Pro's Helix Maglock system. Helix was possibly the most robust, but very expensive, bulky, heavy and limited to just 82mm. So, Helix effectively dismissed on both ergonomic and economic grounds although speed of change and security of lock were def plus points. Maven seem a lot lighter and possibly also have good hold and a lifetime warranty (albeit one never knows how good any warranty is until tested). What have others done in seeking their own 'optimum' trade offs re filters?
I’ve used the original kase Wolverine magnetic and found them to be very good, however what was lacking was a way to see which was which in the pouch, I did recommend some colour to help identify them which I then saw in the Mavin filters ! I’ve not used those I’m afraid so can’t comment however what I can tell you is this latest version from kase is very good and the magnets are quite strong, I’ve had comments and messages from people saying they were actually too strong ! Hope that helps Thanks for watching
I just got the 77mm pro system. Love it, but is anyone having problems getting the lens cap off of the step up rings? I am having to apply some pretty excessive force to get the thing off.
So the filters ARE different size but you can use step up rings? I used to use step up rings ages ago on an pola filter and remember i bought for my biggest filterribg size, so same here then.
@@DarrenJSpoonley I got some Lee filters I have had for a very loooong time and I was looking to get a new one, and then I found out almost no one here in Norway sells Lee any more. Asked the store that used too have them and they said Lee was on the way out for them as no one bought them because of magnetic filters. I guess I been out of the filter world for a long time since I just heard about that last week XD
Nice little demo buddy, looks like a very easy system to get to grips with. I think I would miss my grads for long exposures though (I'm not going to bracket a couple of 4 minute exposures 😂) but then I think I'm the exception. I certainly would consider them on less 'dynamically challenged' days though as it would definitely speed up my process. Enjoy the rest of the week D 🙏🙏🙏
The new changes are great & the case they go in looks to be improved, compared to last one. Such a shame I bought not long before the new ones were released. Enjoy colour coding will make it so much easier.
@@DarrenJSpoonley Thanks for responding to my question. Currently, I do not own a set of these filters. However, I recently read a 2022 review by Fstoppers that tagged Kase Wolverine ND64 filter as having a magenta color shift and lack of sharpness.
I have to say I am getting more tempted by this Kase system. I can't remember the last time I had to use a grad so moving to a purely circular system seems the way forward.
So far use of them has been great ! I’ve not missed the grad and the quality of the images have been without fault ( except for my own of course :-) ) Thanks for watching buddy
Great review Darren. Look forward to seeing them 'in the field'. Thanks for sharing
Thanks Ralph, so far so good with them
Hi Darren, I absolutely agree, the KW revolution filters are fantastic. You know, I also made already a video about them, where I came to the conclusion that it is not only the glass quality, which is really phenomenal for Kase filters in general, it is especially the usability. They simply listen to their clients. The colour coding, for instance, saves so much time, I would not like to miss that anymore. Also, the innovation is top with the inlaid adapter ring, magnetic lens hood, magnetic step-up-rings, and magnetic lens cap.
Thanks for the video, buddy!
Nice greetings,
Christian
100% my friend ! Precisely the items I mention in the video actually :-)
I got tempted by the proliferation of magnet filters that have come to the market in recent years and bought these Kase filters about 9 months ago. Whilst I like the convenience of the magnet and stackable ND's I've not been impressed with the performance of the CPL in this kit. It just doesn't polarise anywhere near as well as my previous screw-in B+W Kaseman CPL which I used for years. I also find rotating the magnetic CPL just awkward compared to the traditional rotating mounts. It's also flimsy, and I put mine in a pocket temporarily on a shoot recently, sat down and unfortunately it cracked and splintered. Not sure whether to replace it or go back replace it with the traditional screw-in type.
I’ve not had an issue with my polariser to be honest, I recently had an opportunity to compare to another brand while in the field and the Kase performed better! I wonder if the one you have had a flaw perhaps?
Great demo Darren!
Thanks a lot , really appreciate that Juanita
I still use my Case Wolverine and it doesn't seem like any big changes to cause me to spend that much money to replace. I used nail polish to color code a long time ago. Thanks for the video.
Never thought of nail polish !! Clever idea ! Thanks for watching
This is a massive help - thanks Darren. I was wondering what was best for 77mm 24-105L - this has helped make my mind up.
Thank you very much Sean, Delighted you enjoyed it Thanks for watching
@@DarrenJSpoonley an absolute pleasure Darren. Keep up the good work. Love the channel.
Just bought them, very impressed after years with lee
Fantastic filters for sure
Nice review. I got the Revolution series too 👍
Thank you very much they are great for sure
Just getting to see your video on these filters Darren. Would it have to be a very bright day to use the darkest one?
Thank you very much ! Yeah
I’ve a Wolverine ND. Have you tried using the new revolution CPL with the (old) Wolverine ND?
Not sure as I no longer have the first set but I’d imagine it would work
Nice shirt! I just purchased the Wolverine version. New subscriber.
That’s class ! Must look for one of those ! Thanks for watching , great to have you on board :-)
Kase magnetic system is really a good thing.
I have the previous version (and suppose it does not worth the upgrade).
Color coding simplified the things, but from my part I always put the same filter at the same place ;)
Great review byt he way, at least for those who don't have such filter in their bag
Thank you very much Herve, so far they seems great and the new changes have been great
I wonder why the color of your case is dark gray with a brown leather patch, and all other I have seen is light gray. Maybe they looked like this when they first came out? And then they quickly changed the look of the case?
Yeah, I think you are right, The brown can be hard to see when out and about for me anyway.
I'm not a photographer, but my partner is. I've been researching filters for about a week now and have settled on Kase! Thanks for the great video!
I am torn between this set and the set with square holder to use graduated ND filters. Would you say most photographers do this in post processing? I think the ability to use a lens hood would be nice, and since we often hike, it may be nice to have less things to mess around with. Any advice would be appreciated :)
Thank you very much ! Drop in filters are the ones I’ve used previously however they need mounting adaptors which means more to carry and more time to setup before shooting, Kase magnetic are simple and very handy ! Shots can be bracketed if needed but depending on how high the difference between dark and bright are in a scene it may not even be needed TK do to get the shot
Hi Darren, this looks good and is possibly inspired (aka close copy) of Maven magnetic system. How good do you find the magnetic performance? Is there any objective way to test and compare this? I have only ever seen subjective comments re magnetic performance, but many positive reviews are from those receiving 'free' samples (esp Neweer on Amazon). I have been researching the many different magnetic filter types/brands (eg K&F, Neweer, Freewell etc) available and suspect a common problem is weak/inferior magnets that also degrade over time, leading to filters dropping off (or knocked off) risking loss or damage.
Optical quality in many of better systems looks pretty good and possibly isn't a meaningful discriminator. Also for video application how good, or otherwise, VNDs performed (colour bias, variation over density, X-pattern etc). I have used Polar Pro screw-on VNDs (well regarded) and found them great in convenience terms (once screwed on) but less accurate that true fixed NDs (true for all VNDs). So eventually concluded (perhaps no surprise) that everything is a compromise and perfection just doesn't exist in filters. Trade offs being cost, optical quality, convenience, robustness, size, heft, weight, limited range etc. I will use a matte box and large cinema size (4x5.65) fixed NDs for videography, when I'm seriously looking for quality - but that's not suited to quick, casual use, gimbal application, or really relevant to stills photography.
Maven filters came well regarded/reviewed in respect of magnetic performance so I just bought a Maven set, but had considered Kase too. Also Polar Pro's Helix Maglock system. Helix was possibly the most robust, but very expensive, bulky, heavy and limited to just 82mm. So, Helix effectively dismissed on both ergonomic and economic grounds although speed of change and security of lock were def plus points. Maven seem a lot lighter and possibly also have good hold and a lifetime warranty (albeit one never knows how good any warranty is until tested).
What have others done in seeking their own 'optimum' trade offs re filters?
I’ve used the original kase Wolverine magnetic and found them to be very good, however what was lacking was a way to see which was which in the pouch, I did recommend some colour to help identify them which I then saw in the Mavin filters ! I’ve not used those I’m afraid so can’t comment however what I can tell you is this latest version from kase is very good and the magnets are quite strong, I’ve had comments and messages from people saying they were actually too strong !
Hope that helps
Thanks for watching
I just got the 77mm pro system. Love it, but is anyone having problems getting the lens cap off of the step up rings? I am having to apply some pretty excessive force to get the thing off.
Mine are tight enough but not overly ! Perhaps it’s the magnet strength currently and may decrease over time ?
So the filters ARE different size but you can use step up rings?
I used to use step up rings ages ago on an pola filter and remember i bought for my biggest filterribg size, so same here then.
Yes exactly , the one for the biggest lens and step ups for the smaller lenses, no vignette either 😇👍
@@DarrenJSpoonley I got some Lee filters I have had for a very loooong time and I was looking to get a new one, and then I found out almost no one here in Norway sells Lee any more. Asked the store that used too have them and they said Lee was on the way out for them as no one bought them because of magnetic filters.
I guess I been out of the filter world for a long time since I just heard about that last week XD
Nice little demo buddy, looks like a very easy system to get to grips with. I think I would miss my grads for long exposures though (I'm not going to bracket a couple of 4 minute exposures 😂) but then I think I'm the exception. I certainly would consider them on less 'dynamically challenged' days though as it would definitely speed up my process. Enjoy the rest of the week D 🙏🙏🙏
So far I’ve not missed my grads, using the full circle ND based on the skys need had worked out well for me
@@DarrenJSpoonley I use the Armour Magnetic system with square ND and GND. How can a Circular ND replace a square GND ?
The new changes are great & the case they go in looks to be improved, compared to last one. Such a shame I bought not long before the new ones were released.
Enjoy colour coding will make it so much easier.
It’s a much easier workflow, now all I need to learn are the colours :-)
@@DarrenJSpoonley much easier & should be easier then the other system's you use. They are nice & colour coding is fantastic
Great video as always. No holder so how about grads?
I’ve found since using them that I’ve not missed the grad so perhaps it’s a better way of working ? What do you think ?
I find you need the grads sometimes to hold in the sky. So still using the holder, which i do find easy to use.
I have read the Kase magnetic ND64 filter that comes with the set does produce a very noticeable magenta color cast. What has been your experience?
Personally I’ve not had any cast on this version or the wolverine set I had before! What are your white balance settings in camera ?
@@DarrenJSpoonley Thanks for responding to my question. Currently, I do not own a set of these filters. However, I recently read a 2022 review by Fstoppers that tagged Kase Wolverine ND64 filter as having a magenta color shift and lack of sharpness.
interested, where can I get this set?
Thank you very much theres links in the description
are they available as vnd ?
There is a Kase ROUND Magnetic Variable ND Filter 2-5 Stops available yes
step-up ring = NO HOODS :(
No hoods used = step up rings :-) the inline filter allows hoods tho to be fair if your inclined to want to use them
Why would you not use one ? The step up ring not let you use one