The Alpine F1 Team Is FINISHED!
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- If you have watched a lot of my videos, or any of them really, you’ll know how little I think of the Alpine F1 team. Oscar Piastri and Fernando Alonso giving them the middle finger a couple of years ago was just the start of it. The mass firing of their management team was an absolute joke. They stooped to a new low when they ran to Flavio Briatore for help, a man who should never be allowed at an F1 race never mind having any kind of involvement in a team, especially the one that he cheated at. Do Renault have no shame? As they have imploded over the past couple of years, the end of the team has looked more and more likely and recent announcements about their engine department is the final straw. With Renault shutting down their engine department and announcing they will be buying a large number of parts off Mercedes, the end of Alpine is here, and I couldn’t be more excited. I’m George, this is F1 Reverse, and you’re watching Don’t @ Me, the show where I’m allowed to get some things off my chest. Let’s get started.
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Trust Alpine to fire their team principal after i make this video!
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So you are saying McLaren could never be competitive because they are Mercedes customer team? See how ridiculous that sounds?
Well said, I agree.
I have been an engineer for my entire working life. There is a saying about French engineering that I have heard many times in my career. " French engineers copy no one, and no one copies them. "
France made some of the greatest planes (Dassault Rafale) in the world. Some of the best F1 engineers are french (Vasseur, Laurent Mekies, Pierre Waché, David Sanchez....), so even if that saying is probably a joke and refers to normal french cars back in the day, its just not true.
Haha that's amazing
@@F1REVERSE Laughing and mocking that Alpine/Renault has to buy their parts from Mercedes :D Open the bonnet of several models of Mercedes and you have a Renault engine in it. Still laughing, knowing that Renault is delivering engines to Mercedes?
@dorientjewoller113 This has nothing to do with their road cars, this is solely about their F1 operation
@@dorientjewoller113 Tends to be the vans, hatchbacks and cross overs. It also is normally the pertrol 3 cyclinder or 4 cyclinders that are renault built in Spain but they were designed together by Mercedes and Renault so you can equally say that a Renault Kangoo has a Mercedes engine in it built in Spain in a former SEAT plant. Half of Mercedes other range is in partnership with Nissan Europe as well.
BMW - Toyota - Subaru work together a lot as well with the new supra being a Z4, Subra crossover having a BMW transmission, BMW using toyota suspension... it goes on and on.
Don't bother with Peugeot they appear in random places in the car market with bits being found in Alfa Romeo's. Granted it is embrassing for Renault to push for R4 - Hybrids, get V6 hybrids and still screw it up when Mercedes had been been working mainly on V8 for the longest time, Honda haven't been in the V6 market much since the mid 90s with the NSX. Ford, Nissan and Jaguar always loved V6's and none of them were in the sport at the time of adoption.
SELL TO ANDRETTI!!!!
This would be damning for existing staff. Andretti has made its own house. I don't think they'd keep the facilities or staff.
They might be concerned with the backlash in France. 🇫🇷 I doubt it’s going to be overly popular in France to sell the team to an American buyer. The French have never forgiven the Americans for saving their butts twice, while the Americans have never forgiven the French for being instrumental in winning American Independence….
NOOoooo. We need an 11th team!
@@TOPWEWOK An 11th team would be the preferred option, but Andretti in place of Alpine would be a close 2nd.
Sell Haas or VCARB to Andretti
Actually, the chassis and aero package is pretty good, it's just the engine. Being a customer Team isn't all that bad, look at McLaren.
This would be a good opportunity for Andretti to pick them up.
McLaren is a bit of a rarity and is definitely overcoming the limitations rather than succeeding because of them
@@F1REVERSE Well, Red Bull has been customer team too, so seems like a reasonably successful biz model.
McLaren have beaten Mercedes, so it's not impossible. But I agree with everyone else they should sell to Andretti. Someone willing to put in the time to be competitive.
Definitely not impossible. But it is a disadvantage, McLaren are just doing a great job of working around it. And I agree, all personal opinion aside, a sale to Andretti at this point would be the "best thing for the sport"
No way. No French stink on Andretti.
No way. No French stink on Andretti. It would be like the car Jerry Seinfeld couldn't get smelling normal.
Perfect time to sell to Andretti
Wow....the French surrendering ......shocker.
Who cares where they get their engines....can you say Aston Martin/Honda?
I bet Andretti F1 is salivating at the ringing of this dinner bell.
Relative succes in the early '90's? Mansell, Prost, Hill (even Hill) en Villeneuve, Schumacher became champions with Renault Engines?! Get your facts straight...
As a constructor. Probably should have made that clear. Yes, their engines have been competitive pre 2014, especially during that Benetton stint, but as a constructor, they have never really flourished
Rise and fall
dont forget RedBull Renault ENggine with Sebastian Vettel
There's a whole lot of Dunning Kruger going on in the Alpine executive suite.
Alpine fan here.
I understand you're not the biggest Alpine fan, but i disagree with quite a few things here.
I will try to keep it as short as possible though.
Because the main problem is not a personnel problem. Alpine has capable engineers in Enstone and Viry Chatillon.
The problem is Renaults stubbornness and too many wrong decisions taken and De Meo can .count himself into it.
Renault hasnt been investing in Viry Chatillon in years. The result of it can now be seen in the current engine - slow and extremely unreliable. Meanwhile, all the others have been investing in their facilities and Renault believes to get away from it by cheaping out. A logic that drives me crazy, as Alpine fan.
Another issue was Laurent Rossi. He alone could be the reason for why Piastri and Alonso left. I always thought that Szafnauer was responsible for it, and he probably still is a bit, Rossi may have caused the tensions between the french and english teams and never did anything to solve that problem. It was only Famin who took that problem into his hands.
Bruno Famin was the first principal who discovered many of the problems we have now and tried to solve them. Many people blame him for everything, but he became principal about a year ago, not much he could have done since then...
Im also not the biggest fan of Briatore, but he is a guy who calls it by the name when something goes wrong and maybe thats we needed too. And he also has great connections.
I generally disagree with giving up on Viry and that decision is purely a financial decision once again. They have once again not learned that investing into their team and their facilities is vital and instead of investing and giving it another try, but this time with all the resources needed, or collaborating with Cadillac, they want to cheap out.
I cant tell you, how much i hate that decision. Alpine and Renault kind of loses its soul with a different engine. Its not the same anymore, and, lets be real, extremely embarassing that Renault has to ask Mercedes to make an F1 engine. It doesnt promote the brand at all, it does the exact opposite. And all due to horrible management decisions taken by Renault.
I honestly hope that the workers in Viry are going for a strike and that french working laws will prohibit Renault to get rid of their amazing engineers just like that and that another decision has to be taken.
We're pretty much on your knees right now. We Alpine fans are extremely frustrated at the moment. But i still believe there is some hope, even with a Merc engine.
A team with the history of Renault, also as engine manufacturer shouldnt ever leave F1 and it would be a loss, and it doesnt make sense just because they are in a temporary crisis.
All the problems they have can be fixed. But with the right people in mind.
Might sound strange but as someone just getting into the sport I can’t help but find myself rooting for this team. Probably has to do with the fact that it feels like they are universally hated. Not surprising though when there are so many British fans…
To be fair, I figured this would happen anyway after that last Hollywood investment round. I think that was the whole point. I'm not even a Renault F1 fan, but even I noticed that you missed a good amount of their achievements here.
When they brought in that sleaze bag Flavio, they showed the world they have zero ethics.
Gasly is 2nd rate, and politics does seem to reign supreme in the team. Wonder if Sainz will go there, would be a shame if he ends up in this crap team.
So bringing in Flavio means zero ethics, but having a car underweight is fine ?!
Corporate executives have no ethics, and no shame.
Your Le Mans comment cracked me up - can ANYONE tell me what the hell that dance party in their garage was about? 🤣
"as resolute as a french infantry line" 😆 savage
Thanks! I had some great ones written down, but I'm not Rocket Powered Mohawk. I had to keep it at least a little on the informative said
Or brave like the english on dunkirk😂
I’ve got to say that I’ve never liked Alpine.
So, what they need is, a plan for the plan for the plan. If that doesn’t work, how about a plan for the plan for the plan for the plan plan. Better still, how about getting out of F1 altogether. Just thinking, how about putting a croissant in the back of the car.
So ‘Renault/Alpine’ is building their chassis in England and they will be sourcing their Engines from Mercedes (in England too).
They might just as well sell to Andretti.
Manufactures should not be buying engines from other manufacturers like a works team! This needs to end in the sport and the FIA should ban it in the rules!
The only way Andretti are allowed into F1 is if there are no other (legitimate) buyers.
Andretti is the only legit buyer backed by the FIA
Fair enough 😂
Andretti scratched the wrong tree earlier and now is paying the price.
Briatore being back is less of an issue than Bruno Famin's run as team principle... 🤷♂️ At least Ocon is finally out of that diaster of a team.
I bet Flavio will be the new team principle
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No one in the sport trusts Andretti, I doubt Totto wants to have the Mercedes engine speck and x-rays on the GM corp desks, 1 day after they deliver them, neither would Mercedes AG.
They need to sell the team to Andretti
Seems to be working for McLaren, using alot of Mercedes components.
i couldn't agree more. they seem to make it work. it's a miracle but still!
McLaren only take engines from Merc. The gearbox and suspension is all McLaren. Aston Martin take more from Merc but still not as many parts as Haas from Ferrari.
“Relative success in the early 90’s” - i mean, 5 (yea’, thats half of the decade) drivers championship, constructor titles and generally, being categorised as the most driveable engine is just an aftertougth? Then whats your definition of this little thing called success…?! 🤔
Resolute as a French infantry line. Classic. Well played 😂😂😂
Go Andretti !! Would be amazing, will be amazing 👍🏻
4:54 Flavio looks a wee bit down and out on his luck? He could at least have laundered that golf shirt
Quick question, are the engines inside the Mercedes, Mclaren and Williams exactly the same or are there differences?
The engines are basically the same, but of course the tuning is different. So they're not exactly the same. Just as Porsche GT3 911's are sold from the factory with the same identical engines, but by the time they reach the track, there are all sorts of tuning changed done.
I agree, anderty is the best way forward for alpine,and get some new spirit into F1.
Renault teams aren’t selling their licenses to anyone. It’s like an NBA franchise even when you suck balls you’re still making money.
Just let Andretti into the damn sport already. FFS F1. That being Said McLaren are doing pretty damn good even as a customer team... I mean they are actually fighting for the Drivers and constructors at this point
Somebody has to be the One that sucks the most, and this is how Sauber found Their Golden Parachute, Reneault should get a good price for Their inability to function.
I always thought this was one of those robot voices channel...
Nope, I'm a real human who just loves F1
I’d bet money Honda would happily supply Andretti since they do in Indy car
Flavio probably getting a commission from Mercedes
Instead of just shutting down the engine department and buying engines and suspension parts from Merc Renault should just sell the team this would not only be a positive for Renault as a company as they wouldn't have to invest anymore money into a project that is clearly failing, but this would also be a positive for Michael Andretti's F1 bid and FOM as Michael and his team are clearly ready to join the grid and FOM don't want an 11th team so Renault selling to Andretti would mean FOM still has the ten teams it wants and Andretti gets into F1.
There's NO WAY the French government is going to allow Renault to close their engine department. GM and Renault will reach an agreement.
The members of the team might care but Renaults board dont. Best sell up and give Andretti a chance. At least Andretti want to try to be competitive.
Hmmmmmm. You say that they have given up on ever beating Mercedes with them buying Mercedes components. McLaren obviously have proven you wrong
Why do you keep referring to Renault and alpine as well, they are two different entities. You don’t look at porsche and VW the same do you?
I love how completely off everyone is, you all have no idea 😂
A customer team can never be competitive... tell that to McLaren...
Same about Redbull vs Renault.
This is the first time i'm seeing and hearing your voice together. All good just not what I expected😊
Your not the first to say that don't worry!
@@F1REVERSE It's always weird seeing someone you hear but don't often see. Thanks for sharing!
How can you just blow over the Williams days with Renault Power in the 90’s and then Red Bull and Vettel’s dominance with Renault power… shame you made a video without blowing their trumpet as well as trashing them. (And I’m not French in case you wondered)
I thought you were an Ai voice. Thank you for showing your face. Now I will listen to the channel more often. A lot of times I would get drawn in to watching only to skip to a different channel because I thought this was a faceless AI-generated channel.
Thanks a lot. If you like this style of video I have a whole playlist on the channel page with more like it!
Wouldn’t mind Andretti in the sport but then buying alpine is soulless
Teams are bought and sold all the time. Remember when Honda sold their whole team to Ross Braun? I think for ONE British pound. Supposedly to insure the survival of the team. Braun got a ready to go, brand new F1 car, that won the first 7 races, taking the manufacturer's championship for 2009.
Porsha or Andretti to bye them, I can see more difficulty for the team coming SOON….. how thay are may not be able to bring in a second driver. I hear some of the celebrities sponsors WANT OUT.
though i get that this video is a bit of an over-the-top rant, i think you're judging them a bit too harshly, at least in the first 3 to 5 mins, as you know Renault has had tremendous success as an engine manufacturer, you're kind of overlooking the Williams years..
Moreover, Oscar Piastri wasn't dumped because of a tweet, he had clearly stated in this tweet that he wouldn't be racing for them.
Although i agree, the team has fundamental issues, most (if not all of it) stems from Renault management..
Hey Michael Andretti.
Renault is going to have a fire sale soon.
your personal views cannot distort the facts... Renault engines have powered many F1 World Champions including Nigel Mansell, Michael Schumaker, Damon Hill, Jaques Villeneuve, Fernando Alonso (twice), Sebastian Vettel (Four titles). It's true that their last 10 years have been awful but as you can see with McLaren, things can change quickly.
Why does nobody find a scapegoat for Mercedes cheating as recently as the very last race at Spa? Is there more than one type of cheating? Flavio was caght & yes, was banned for a while but why is there virtually no recriminations when other teams cheat? It's been happening since F1 started with brilliant effort by Tyrell, Benneton, Red Bull, McLaren, etc. But there never seems to be anyone attacked for it with the exception of Flav. What about Ferrari cheating with their engines and getting it quietly swept under the garage doors?
You have way too much invested in Renault failing & it's quite sad
Exactly, its just not fair to hope that Alpine / Renault is going to fail because they're having a bad time, while everything else is swept under the rug. But i believe this some form of France bashing, which seems to be very popular these days for some reason.
Throwing money at a problem never works,
wait did i miss something or is this the first video with George's face
Nope. There is a whole series of me sharing my opinions. If you see my face, you know that it's going to be more of my opinion and less of the news/quotes content I normally do. There is a playlist on the channel if you want to check some more out
Andretti must take advantage on this to Enter F1
Isn't there a limited number of teams Mercedes can supply?, Red Bull as the smaller provider would surely be forced be the provider?? Waste of space, let Ryan sell the team on the open market....
If I was a F1 driver I'd have to think 2 twice about Renault.
Why wouldn’t they just sell the team if they’re giving up ? I’d bet Andretti would pay a pretty penny for it !
@F1REVERSE Not only fired Bruno Famin, but Ocon is now going to Haas leaving a seat open. Sainz has confirmed he’s going to Williams, but K-Mag, Zhou and Sargeant will be looking for a seat. If they have any sense they’ll stay clear of Alpine. Just sell to Andretti already!
Alpine didn't offer Ocon a new contract as opposed to him ditching Alpine. But you are right, they should avoid the team. I wouldn't be surprised if they take a chance on a rookie. Would love to see Jack Doohan get a chance
@@F1REVERSE Yes, I was thinking the same thing! What’s the worst that could happen? He puts in consistent P15s? Not much worse than Pierre or Ocon now….when the car works. Love you George, F1R (my only other source of YT F1 content besides the main F1 channel) and Don’t @ Me.
McLaren are doing okay with Mercedes engines…
Red Bull used Renault engines from 2016 to 2018
The Hamilton, Mercedes breakup is going to be ugly.
Insert WW2 joke here.
Seriously Ronnie Mo 😅
Same as normal car on road my Alfa Romeo is shit 😮
I think you need to read a little more F1’s history. You do not have a clue of what Renault did in F1. Too much hate from a kid who plays to be a journalist.
The voice to face doesn't match.
McLaren are a pretty competitive customer team.
They split the team up to do exactly what there doing now .
Look at what the French did at the Olympics 😠
And what did they do ?! From what i see so far, they did an amazing job with the pre show, one of the best of all times...
@@mabirc2844 lack of awareness about things around....
Most part of the world condemned the opening promoting Rainbow culture 👿
@@fillusrahim-xy9ib Define "most". Because most people i spoke to loved the show. I only see X comments, UA-cam comments or France haters condemning the show. And even if you didnt like the rainbow culture, you have to admit that the show in the middle of the city, over the Seine, at the Eiffel Tower etc. was pretty epic.
than why is mclaren more competitive than mercedes?
Different chassis, different tuning of the engine.
Ricciardo bought in and then left because Renault were going nowhere. SELL THE TEAM!
I think they should should consider a rebranding and call the team "Resign i.e. quit" Use a white flag livery in honor of the French surrender history. They could work on making their braking the best in the F1 teams and brag their cars stop faster than any other. This team is such a mess no one is going to invest in them and for the life of me I cannot understand why Gasly resigned with them unless he was desperate for a seat. Either way he may regret it in the long run.
Thay are the biggest jock in f1..
They need to sale to andett
The LoL is the Change the name of team, better Renault Alphine, just lets alphne name be sealed to another sponsorship like Alfa Romeo example
So your saying Maclaren can never win as they also are buying parts of Merc??
Not never, but it definitely is a disadvantage for them that they would need to overcome to win championships
Or RBR buying engines from Honda....
Why don't they sell to Andretti or someone that wants to be there? I hope all the Hollywood stars can get their investments back.
Who cares about the Hollywood celebrities getting their money back? Investments are all about risk and reward!
By 2026 it will Team Hyundai with Cyril Abiteboul - far fetched? - not as far as Alpine still being on the grid in 2026 is. hahaha
Or Éric Boullier
Andretti f1 👍
sad really...
Sack-re-blue ⛳
Alpine: "We are not winning! We must be more French to win!"
Alpine - Gets 2 French drivers, talks about how they are the best and sticks 2 fingers up at everyone else
Alpine: "Almost there! Just need a little more French..."
Alpine - Utterly capitulates in F1
Alpine: "Perfect!"
Can't say I'm sorry to see the back of them.
The French have always been a joke
2nd. (Although i can't imagine why anyone would care!)
It's okay, I care!
@@F1REVERSE bless u! 😂🤣😂😂
First!
Yup, and Alpine never will be lmao
Sell to Andretti and give us another American team.
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I HOPE ANDRETTI BUYS THEM , F1 needs them for the FANS LOL
sell to Toyota!
Don't think they'll care what you think.
I didn't see the last GP, I had some paint to watch dry or did I do my hair? Or something. 🥱🥱🥱🥱