@@st.joanna2120 That's not a bad thing. When people first started assembling displays of dinosaur bones, they used the actual dinosaur bones, but you have to drill them and wire them together, which is destructive to the actual dinosaur bones. They use replicas now to preserve the originals.
+zarasbazaar Is that a statement of objective fact or an expression of your personal feeling? Why do you consider his choice so beautiful? Are you a paleontologist yourself? Or are you one of those fanatics who uses evolutionary theory as a justification for denial of God's existence? Darwin himself did not opine heavily regarding God's existence------------not that he was in a better position to know than anyone else. Apparently his Hasidic background did not teach him much. The young man still seems to think that happiness is the object of this present life. Jesus, whom the Hasidic community ignores, calls our attention to the greater goal of life everlasting. (John 3:16) 'For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.'
Any religion taken to the extreme will sound very similar. They teach, the outside world is a dangerous place, don’t read that, don’t look at this. Fundamental Christianity is very similar.
yup. im jewish-atheist and these people are fucking terrible. they shield their children from teh outside world, dont work, are misogynistic af, backwards af
@@condescendingsmile9116 I'm the same as u. There are lots in my family that won't even talk to me cause I live my life differently than them. The keys words are "my life" and they choose not to understand that.
@@AuntieTrichome Your a Complete Idiot who Dosen't have a Legitimate Clue of what your talking about. Oh, and you let yourself be used by Satan as a Tampon. You ignore Actual Facts because you Can't handle The Truth.
Yeah I thought that was silly/least important aspect of everything. Who cares when your first kiss is, people aren't instructed to kiss or anything, haha.
I think the point is that it's not your decision when you're first kiss is, it's the expectation the community puts on you to wait for marriage to have your first kiss. They're not shaming the age you have your first kiss, but rather the red tape the community puts around you and your own personal choices of what you do with your body and with whom.
@@Haddy29 Exactly. I was even older than that at my first kiss but it was bc no one I'd have wanted to kiss (and who would've wanted to kiss me) came along earlier. Acknowledging that I am an outlier doesn't mean it's a shame when a first kiss happens later in life. Most people with fairly normal psychosexual development will have kissed by their 20s, it's just a fact.
The rabbi might mean well, but he's assuming that no gentile families are close knit and that all gentile kids are rude to their parents. He's telling young people that they'll never find the positive things outside that are found in their communities, and that is not true. I was taught NEVER to interrupt when my parents were talking and, trust me, there was no foul language either!
I didnt hear him make any assumption about anyone. However, it takes a community to raise a child. Public Schools dont provide a great community to raise a child.
Me and my wife always pay attention to our son if he has something to say. We stop in our tracks to listen to our son. Thats our job as parents. We treat our very young child as an adult since birth. We don't teach him to be silent among talking adults. His mind is developing and with that comes a lot of speech and questions. I'm not going to teach my son to be mute when adults are talking or tell him too. Children are not inferior to adults but the the opposite, they are superior and the future. Screw all religions
The Torah speaks volumes about Righteous Gentiles. However, when we look at modern liberal society, we see very few immutable ethical values, and so often gentiles are spoken about in a bad way from that perspective. If you are a righteous gentile, then may Gd Bless You and create many many more.
It's the same with amish. They speak dutch majority of the time so when you hear them speak English it sounds like they are also from Europe. It's the fact they were taught a first language other than English.
@@vinskilindqvist4554 except Amish people have some process. That makes young people leave Amish people and go see the modern life for some time. And then they decide if they want to go back...
It's a 19th century defence of loving God in the way you are given to bless God. The Welch, The Amish & Mennonites, Mormons and חסידות Jewish people smack dab in the middle of a most diverse metropolis. Include that small island off the coast of India. In America all but the Golden Calf arm of the Christian Caliphate seek to legislate other's religious behavior. Acting upon this impluse is explicitly UNLAWFUL Most Americans take pride in the quaintness of some of our countrymen's traditions. Yes and for the TrumpOgarch Christians there is the Christmas Shopping on 5th Ave. You won't find Chasidim at the Prayer Breakfast in Fayetteville NC. You will find folks who are equally steeped in ancient theologic traditions. They feel as safe together in the hollers and gaps as the Chasidic Jews in the Subways of NYC. A great media product of the last century is Readers Digest. May I introduce such a plan for campain reform? $18.00 a month subscription for DYI Political Campaigns at PennilessPolitics.com I only paid 99¢ for the first edition! I'm just say'n ™® @votusus
Wow, someone is getting a degree. That means they have an unstoppable thirst for knowledge. What pity party bs. Everyone gets a degree, and it says nothing about a thirst for knowledge and especially doesn't imply anything about an unstoppable thirst for it.
@ not quite...most humans respond from a place called " emotions"/ feelings...and religion is based on a set of rules that does not necessarily respond to "what feels right."..but WHAT IS RIGHT.
I didn't experience my first kiss/date until I was 28 and I didn't lose my virginity until 34 after i married. I'm not even Jewish. I just knew I wanted to wait until marriage since i was 13 years of age. I was born and raised in Manhattan and moved to Florida at the age age of 12. Been told i should model since my teens but chose a modest normal life. It was a choice for me to go against the norm and I love that i did so and waited.
And women are told that whoring themselves out is "Progressive"; that giving up traditional roles and values is "Progressive"; that giving up their own femininity is somehow empowering, as if women should be striving for power instead of becoming good wives and mothers; that giving up your spiritual and religious life for material and power is "Progressive". If this is "progress", then I don't want that "progress"; this isn't progress and growth, this is regression and decline. Just cause it's not traditional doesn't mean it's progressive, for tradition is not the opposite of progress, tradition is the foundation of progress. If only our regressive society had progressed enough with good women like you, we wouldn't be as degenerate and corrupt today. Women like you in our day and age, are like the lilly in the swamp - a glimer of beauty and hope in a sea of filth and despair. It is women like you who will bring real respect and value to women in society; it is only women like you who I respect and admire; that is, a real daughter, a real wife, a real mother - a real woman.
@@caireoriwa3249 Blah blah blah men been the first "whores" and still are the worse. She does whatever she wants whether she wants to wait till marriage or not is none of your business,your validation isn't relevant. Mind your business.
@@caireoriwa3249 That is bullshit. I too waited to have sex until a much older age but that doesn't make me a better woman than anyone. Women are figuring out their sexuality in a culture that has repressed it and continues to do so. In absence of a families and societies where we can talk about it without persecution, and being called "whores" (as you so disgustingly put it) the pendulum of what is considered good and bad will just keep swinging from one extreme to the other. It is bullshit. Not all women want to be wives and Mothers and that is good. Just stop.
@@OOoKarmaoOO Right? As if women were treated so well by society when they were all conforming to puritanical sex rules? They were still being raped, cheated on, left out of decision making - and Black women and women of color were always treated like beasts of burden. People kill me with their respectability politics. Women figure out what you want. It is no one's business.
It just proves that growing up is not just a process of learning but also a process of unlearning . If you don't question why you will never realize your own potential and find true happiness.
True But, their isolation results in their having knowledge we could never possibly acquire. I am not a religionist but I can understand why a person would seek out absolute knowledge in a very narrow field, such as becoming an expert in one book.
Obtain knowledge far apart to the religion is another subject.but obtain knowledge way to dstroy the secread law of religion is not important.the matter were talking is matter of religion..not outside world matter.then so we need to follow the law of religion to be a good cetizen in the community or in the world first.before we obtain knowledge that is excluded from the law of religion..if we christian or gentile do not solemly follow our law of religion then it's up to us.other sect solemly follow their tradistion then it's good because that's their religion.then if in hour religion we are allowed to commit sex to other men and women if it's good to our religion then go ahead.if we think we are do preserve the law of our religion to do that then keep to do it habitualy.
Whether her family is proud of her or not, I hope she is proud of her own hard work and dedication. They all should be. I can’t imagine how hard it was to leave and want something so different from what you’re raised to want, and I’m glad this segment showed all sides of the life. Very informative and those four adults are very brave and ambitious.
@@marmadukescarlet7791 Do children ever really have a choice? Once you're old enough to walk away, the only thing that can stop you is fear. I, however, doubt that Amish or Hasidic people are suffering greatly being "isolated" from the "outside". Not like the women who flee FLDS, Watchtower, or Islamic regimes like Iran or Saudi Arabia.
@@masoncrowell1452 What do they do for jobs with no/ limited post secondary education? and how do they get money to raise 10 kids? ans have a decent lifestyle? Afford living in NYC?
I used to run for a running club. Every week a Hasidic girl would turn up and run in her dress. She was good. Her parents would come and support her, which I thought was so great given that it would be frowned upon in their community.
Well, l invite you then to do your own research about The Bahá'i Faith, you might get surprised. By the way, Bahai.org is a good place to start with. Cheers!
Actually Christianity is based on free will and the concept of all humans being equal, and it is the fulfillment of Judaism. The Talmud is a collection of traditions started after the captivity that added “clarification” to the Torah, they were trying so hard to obey the Law that they went majorly overboard and missed the point, Jesus denounced many of these strict traditions.
@@olympia5758 But, we were on American soil, living free from Britain, as American citizens with religious freedoms. The British controlled us as colonies only for the MONEY(taxation, tariffs). They cared less about our religious freedom; they controlled England by having only one government church, the Church of England.
It was pretty accurate, the core values of society were very different in the 1950’s of America. Also, the Declaration of Independence was in 1776... 1750 would have seen Monarchal viewpoints and cultural influences.
"The secular world would love to have that." So nobody else came from a good family? See, that's a dangerous/stupid teaching. "Nobody outside our circle has a good life."
he didn't say that he said anyone would want that life. I don't agree...I would not want to wear a wig ...they are itchy and hot, I wouldn't only want to hang around other women all the time men are interesting too, and I wouldn't want to wear wool and long sleeves in the summer nor would i want 10 kids. Soooooo he's wrong.
@@tslilbearshoppe9870 The wig thing seems like total BS cheating. It's like your God tells you not to eat bacon, but you think if you eat fake bacon your ok. Seems like legalistic skirting of the intent.
@@Agiantpansy most religious people are living in bondage. I follow Jesus Christ and the word of God ...not an institution, not a religion and he just preaches love, giving, caring, peace and love and salvation. That's good enough for me. I don't need to rock at a wall, chant, worry bout stepping on ants, or tree worship, dressing a certain way, eating a certain thing or beat myself up for my actions...I am free. Thank you Jesus!
Wrong. The OTD community's attitude is THE problem. Stop blaming religion for your faults and shortcomings. Those that 'leave the fold' are merely a bunch of angry, hateful and spiteful jerks. If lack of education is their issue, then why not just get an education? Yes, all is possible nowadays right in our own community, if you only care to inquire. But of course they'd rather be angry and spread unnecessary hatred. That's what floats their boat. Nothing else. If traditional Hassidic garb or lifestyle is what bothers them, Modern Orthodoxy is a viable solution. The rabbi is right on target in his message to these losers to stop hurting those that nurtured them (and still care about them -- believe it or not.) Why (seemingly) educated people give these dolts a forum is beyond me.
Daniel Olortegui CHRISTIANS/ JEWS DO NOT WORSHIP THE SAME GOD AS MUSLIMS, ALLAH IS SATAN. I’ve read the Qu’ran & it’s a highly vague & shallow version of the Bible full of statements & just telling people what to do in these tiny verses for each surah. It literally sounds like a coaching book😂 “”Say this to People of the Scripture”” or “”Say this to disbelievers”” or your gonna burn on the Last day !”. The Quran doesn’t even tell u a linear storyline in chronological order like it does in the Bible of how man came to be, our original sin that lead to the fall of man kind, Christ coming to pay that price for sin which is death so we can be in heaven again with YAHWEH THE TRUE NAME REVEALED BY GOD TO MOSES. Allah has 99 Names in Islam, but guess who also has many many names, Satan, the Old Serpert !! In The Bible God only has ONE NAME & ONE NAME ALONE TO BE REMEMBERED BY THROUGHOUT ALL THE AGES. Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, **I Am That I Am**: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. 15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: ****this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations****. Notice how God didn’t say God of Ishmael? Because Ishmael was from the seed of a prostitute which God did not want Abraham to have that’s why he told him to have another child named Isaac who Christ would descend from not Muhammad !! Hmmmmm. This is another of many reasons why this book wasn’t written by the same True God. WHERE IS THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IN THE QURAN? NOWHERE ! IF THE QURAN CAME FROM THE TRUE GOD U THINK HE’D JUST FORGET HIS MOST IMPORTANT COMMANDMENTS? When the Quran talks about the prophets it literally only gives them like one, two sentence n jumps all over the place like the author doesn’t kno how to tell a story!!😂 it’s sooo vague. basically sum repetitive bs like “Allah is most merciful” WE HAVE ENTIRE BOOKS WRITTEN BY THE PROPHETS U CLAIM TO FOLLOW WHICH GIVES US A COMPLETE STORY UNLIKE MUSLIMS. THERES A REASON WHY THE TORAH & GOSPEL ARE ONE BOOK BEING THE HOLY BIBLE. ITS BECAUSE THEY GO HAND IN HAND & TELL THE SAME STORY & PROPHECIES IN THE TORAH WHICH R FULFILLED IN THE GOSPEL BY JESUS CHRIST. The Quran fits nowhere in here. It contradicts the the 2 Holy Books before it confirming each other proving itself to be a counterfeit Holy Book and not the true religion Compare Muhammad’s last words compared to Christ. Muhammad literally cursed Jews & Christians on his deathbed in the Hadith while Christ forgave those who beat,ripped to shreds by Roman whips, mocked, & nailed to cross him to the cross. He said “ Father !! Forgive them.. for they know not what they do !” ISLAM LITERALLY SPREAD BY THE SWORD AND WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BIGGEST AND LONGEST SLAVE TRADE IN HISTORY THAT LASTED 1400 YEARS . The reason u guys are muslim is because ur country was conquered n was forced to convert to Islam or pay the jizayah !! Which was “protection tax” or else the Muslims wud cut ur head off. Surah 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled” Surah 9:5 “And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful” ^ peaceful God u got there guys😂 ISIS & all terrorist follow the Quran better then anybody in the western world. They’re doing exactly what Muhammad did in his time. BUT WHAT DID CHRIST SAY? Matthew 5:43- 46 43 “Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? CHRISTIANS WERE PERSECUTED FOR OVER 300 YEARS N NEVER ROSE THE SWORD LIKE MUHAMMAD, HIS FOLLOWERS & THE OTTOMAN CALIPHATE THAT CAME OUT IF IT OR FORCED CONVERSIONS. I’ve read the Quran brother now it’s time for u to read The Bible ! Christ said no one comes to the Father except by through him ! He said he is the Alpha & the Omega, the First & The Last, what began with me shall end with me !!
America in the 1950s? Hahahaha No, in your imagination maybe, but this isn't even what TV 1950s was like, and that was hella more cookie cutter bullshit.
For most people we have an inherent wanting to learn, to see, to feel and to make choices. This is what makes us human. Some that were raised in the Hasidic community will want to experience the outside world and others will just be content to be where they are. I have no problem with either as long as they are happy.
For YEARS, I worked in an OB/GYN Office on the upper East side with a GREAT population of Hasidic patients and saw MANY STD cases. We were NEVER allowed to tell these women the truth about the true nature of the infections, but were instructed to tell them that they had "yeast infections". To the community, a yeast infection was normal and therefore we would treat the patient and her husband with the proper medication to treat the "yeast" infection!!
I lived on south 9thst in Williamsburg for years , and I can tell you charity is big in this chasidic community. I take nightly walks very late at night when everyone is a sleep and being an artist I do my best thinking this way. You will always find little boxes outside the houses with all kinds of food . Bread , cheese , pastries. This is left there for charity. Faith , hope , and charity. SAY WHAT YOU WANT , BUT TRY FINDING A PASTRAMI SANDWICH ON PARK AVE AT 3AM. I love these people.
Its sad to think they want to believe that people who live secular lives/other religions don't have beautiful homes and don't raise good, honest hard working children.
And contrary to that, I've witnessed some real indifference from parents towards their children in ultra orthodox/Hassidic households! It was shocking - no interaction between parents and children, no time together, no love, nothing! I consider that child abuse!
I’m a Jew to I live in france I am reform Jew ( like my mum) my dads family is orthodox, and me too, I’ve been raised in a household of love ( I think!!)
Little Kitty Those parents were themselves raised in a similar environment while prevented from interacting with wider society. Emotionally, they do not know better. It’s a generational cycle you see at times outside of religion as well.
From replays I've seen from this community they don't think you can . They think you just should study scripture, most of the men don't work they just study scripture the women work . To me that's pretty odd and unbalanced
@@everythingisfine9988 I think what the original post is trying to say is that not all of Judaism is a cult. There are tons of observant (and even hasidic) Jews that value secular education, can believe in both Judaism and evolution, and have jobs in the "normal" world. There are communities that are cult-ish, but that's not an accurate representation of all observant Jews.
I love learning and asking questions. It’s been an amazing experience going to college and going to my church with the many questions I have and being encouraged to investigate and find answers for myself. That’s how life ought to be. Not being forced to live in ignorance.
@ Doris, {Leviticus 19:27} is about pagan mourning practices, when a family member died the pagans ( Canaanites ) would shave their heads and violently pull out their beards. God was instructing the Israelites not to that when they mourn, they would also cut themselves fo. for the dead.
Right, this is same as Mormon or Scientology, however, whose to say, who knows how to be happy? Wasn't tne original plan to be happy? Isn't that the point of living and civilization? If not, then wouldn't we be better off suffering in the wilderness?
No....not every religion forces you to marry someone you don’t love, or shuns you if you decide to leave the church, or that doesn’t allow TV, gymnasium and meuseums
Good point. Many Hasidim have been known to slaughter other Jews who don’t follow their way of life, not to mention commit broad acts of terror against secular people of all faiths for being non-believers. Wait, that is absolutely not the case, and the ANY is pure bullshit, like any generalization.
3:28 I think that's a major part of the issue. These enclaves didn't truly take off until the post-Holocaust diaspora. There's a case to be made that the excessive strictness is a symptom of cultural trauma. Most people are reluctant to deal with their trauma, and that allows it to fester. It may be comparatively less dysfunctional than what has happened to other groups, but it's not a healthy outlook.
Hey these peeps want to be old school thank God we still have cultures like this. I’m Roman Catholic but I’ve always respected my Jewish brothers! Hard workers, great business people, excellent food, family values! I dig it
"Know you could be happy" -what a powerful response to the question of what he would say to any other Hasidic Jew that was curious about the world outside of the community.
...yes, the lie the world tells you...I don’t agree with extremes, but “being happy” is also a choice, unfortunately many pay sever penalties for “happiness”...their version of it. The world still continues to lure people into its idea of “happiness”. Just look at all the non Hasidic folk here in the comments...I’m sure their just abounding in pure happiness...everyday! Especially the ones who have the Rx kind.
@@JellyBean-gy7cn This is the nonsense of the Bible and the Talmud all because the old Babylonians won the war against the Israelites and destroyed their Solomon Temple and bring them back to Babylon in chains and their god didn't save them.
I grew up religious (not even Hasidic) and there's definitely elements of guilt that are used to keep those 'in the fold'. I came to be religious during middle school after anti-semitic bullshit in public school. I think what kept me away from truly going all-in on religion was my passion for science. I was a science kid long before I was religious (so far as getting a perfect science score on my ACT...let's ignore the rest lol) despite the fact that my school barely had secular education. I was fascinated by how the world works and the potential for space exploration. I had to self-teach myself the basics of algebra and geometry to get through college...and when studying the GRE for my MBA I realized that I didn't even cover all of that myself. Secular studies are considered unimportant and secondary to rabbinical teachings of Gemara, Midrash, and Rashi, books that study biblical interpretations and archaic law precedents that have not applied to modern society in hundreds of years...some perhaps thousands. Even more than that...I was never fully accepted within Jewish circles. There's a lot of division beyond the type of religiousness you are, including your ethnic background (Ashkenazi or Sephardi) or your immigrant one (Bukharians, Syrians, Iranians, etc). Being a Hispanic Jew it's a complicated topic that I never had an answer on. That and being non-religious in the past meant I could never really fit in, so I never grew too comfortable with the lifestyle and wasn't hard to be a free thinker. I can certainly see though that for many there's a lot of comfort in staying inside. You don't want to receive criticism from your friends and family. Or threats from your own parents. Judaism is a very hard religion to practice secularly, and with so many holidays, traditions, time for learning archaic laws, and hours of daily prayers, it's really easy for all those rituals to build a level of consistency and comfort...almost making life autonomous. That level of routine makes every day run like autopilot.
If science keeps you away from loving God, you are retarded in every possible religion, I hope is not the case. Do you know how to speak in Ladino (sephardic castilian/spanish)?
You're presuming science contradicts Judaism. The Vilna Gaon says otherwise, and very many sects of Orthodox Judaism encourage secular studies and science because it can help us better understand Torah. Neuroscience, economics, archeology, etc. They all reinforce Tanach and Talmudic teachings. I was atheist, then I became Jewish. I won't make any claims about myself compared to you, but I'm more analytical and scholarly than most. One can look at the habit-building and routines of Judaism as a positive, as I did, coming from my meta-analysis on different neuroscience research.
Someone else posted a comment about how "not questioning" is characteristic of a cult. I'd like to further that and say that anyone who never questions their own actions/decisions/mentalities is a cult unto themselves. I'm uneasy around ppl who use phrases like "no regrets"
Uneasy about people who have no regrets? Maybe people who feel that way DID examine their decisions/actions and came to the same conclusion, with no regrets.
I will always respect cultural and religious groups, but I have zero respect for any society that leeches off government welfare without giving back to the community
FYI this community are one of the biggest taxpayers in NY. Theres a much larger percentage of successful millionaires in this community than you think.
Tracy Monroe to be fair that first rabbi they interviewed is not as fanatical as those from the sects those people they interviewed later were originally from. B
He means the general gender roles and values in some respects e.g.. The women wear skirts, stay home to cook clean and have kids, the man is the head of the household, he wears a hat, the kids respect the parents. You get married and stay married. That sort of thing. I think your comment was a bit harsh when you can see what he means surely.
Don`t see much difference between these Hasidics and other religious sects like the Amish. The Amish also have their own Germanic type of language. Want to be foreigners in their own birth countries. Although crime rates and teenage delinquency are probably very low or even non-existent among these religious communities, it comes with a price of being more like a worker ant being totally subservient to their community and not independent free willed and free thinking persons in their own right, in-fact they become institutionalised, unable to cope in the real world.
@Perce, I am Ashkenazi Jewish (but secular). Yiddish is sort of like the German that the Amish or Pensylvania Dutch (Daych) speak. Yiddish is based on Medieval High German more like Swiss or Austrian.
@@messianic_scam It’s the liberal branch of Judaism. I to am a Reform Jew. We aren’t as strict with the laws. We believe in science. I do online Jewish educational classes with my Rabbinical staff on Zoom. I watch the livestream services on Facebook live. We are the biggest Jewish movement in North America.
If everyone in that community went to college, they'd all be geniuses. Studying for 13 hours a day for 6 days straight is tough, but it's a skill that will get them amazing education
i dunno how they make monney in that culture??? they said most women come out of hs amd get marred and have babies. IF THEY MARRY MEN NEAR THEOR OWN AGE,,, THAN HO DO THESE MEN SUPPORT THES WOMEN AND KIDS??
8:04 - I hate mentalities like this. Refusal to empathize, discouraging free thought, and imposing your beliefs onto others. This is how religion perpetuates itself.
8:10 We have those things too in the secular world. This rabbi has never lived a life in the secular world so where does his knowledge come from to judge.
Everything extreme is bad. I am sure the family values taught in the community are admirable but if they come with a high price i.e. giving up education, then is questionable
@Joe Hoe No, Sir. Torah-Observant Judaism is an over 2,000 year old world religion. It had adherents from all over, something which made the Roman Empire jealous.
"Everything extreme is bad." Is this written in stone somewhere ? Is it in the Bible or Talmud ? Is it even true ? Barry Goldwater famously said, "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!" Is there something l wrong about an "extreme" love of classical music that drives a musician to achieve their best, or drives a philanthropist to support orchestras all over the country ? I think I'll reject your statement that "Everything [EVERYTHING] extreme is bad", but will keep my eye out for "Extreme" things and evaluate them as they come up.
@Joe Hoe You are a moron. It isn't religion driving IDF DEFENSIVE operations in the so-called "occupied territories". (Israel pulled out of Gush Katif in 2005, but you don't care to learn about anything "positive" Israel does.) Bottom line: you're just another racist not making an effort to understand the situation.
Andressa Hoese You seem to equate 'education' with public education, or secular education as offered by accredited institutions. There are MANY kinds of education besides that. But no matter: I am NOT AT ALL in sympathy with Hasidic Judaism, because it denies the fact that JESUS (Yeshua) is their rightful Messiah. They have not understood their own Scriptures properly. 'Anything extreme is bad.' That in itself is an extreme statement, don't you find? It is certainly is too categorical to be of consistent practical value in a complex world beset by urgent problems. This precept is far more nuanced: (Ecclesiastes 7:18) 'It is good that you grasp one thing and also not let go of the other, for the one who fears God comes forth with both of them.'
Peter visits Chabad Hasidic jews, which are completely separate from these Hasidic Jews, members of cults such as Satmar. Chabad is a cult that is far more lenient and accepting to non jews and secular jews, as their goal is to reach secular jews and connect them to judaism. Satmar is a cult that is dedicated to isolation from secular jews as well as non jews, and is nothing like the many modern orthodox chabad hasidic jews. Hasidic jews come in a wide range of experiences and sects, and some are far more abusive while others are usually more harmless.
Big DARK SIDE hidden. All the sexul abuse, crime, alcoholism etc. in short every thing in secular life is there too. acted as though they are above it.
This is not an accurate representation of MOST Jewish people in America. The Talmud is probably one of the most orthodox writings in the Jewish religion and many Jewish people do not follow it. There are so many different branches of Judaism that promote equal rights, and that are all for a modern society. this type of community is comparable to Amish or cult religions and should not be used as a way to perceive all Jewish people. There are so many different ways to interpret the Torah, Just like there are different ways to interpret the Bible. Clearly people don’t follow every single thing that the Bible says because it wouldn’t make sense in a modern world. However, in every religion there are groups of people who take every word that G-d wrote literally. We have to remember that not everyone is like this. Please do your research before basing your views on an entire religion from one video that shows the bad side of it.
The Irony is that they are wonderful people because of their roots in wonderful families. The kid who got his PHD... he learned his thirst for knowledge when he was taight Talmud in the correct way. One day they will see it
Gymnasium comes from the Greek word gymnós, meaning naked. Athletes exercised and played games in the nude. It was related to debauchery and the bacchanalia.
Daniel Brooks I think, if I recall correctly, it is also German for "school". But in the ancient Greek gymnasium, I think the debauchery was in the bath house. lol
Michele Lawrence All religions can be considered a cult. I can say the Roman Catholic Church is a breeding ground for child molesters. Don't judge other peoples beliefs unless u want urs judged.
True, also 80 percent of us are non religious, like myself. I agree every religion has cultish qulities ,better to just away from crap like that But when people hear cult they this all sorts of bizzare things and that's not what's going on there These are normal hassidic family not nutty orthodox people who live in their own world and even they sometimes leave the community...I knew some who became totally non-religious
Ess Jaaayy it's not exactly a cult but I understand why it would seem as this, I think you're partway right, because I live in Israel we have some "hasidot" like those in broklin, but they are a tiny minority because Jodaisem today have more free thinking jews as me, or as we call it "traditional jews" that are a bit more like most of the Crist today. but the haredim is very innocent and most of them are peaceful and they are learning from a very young age how important is that to respect and love the poor (that is the reason that almost no one is starving to death in Israel, because we give so much charity that even the poorest will have a decent meal unless they are on drugs and those doesnt remember how to get one, and that is because of the Haredis.) but you are right about the problem with isolation. and to tell you the truth, even in Israel we're not sure how to help them.
larry johnson phdofilia? actually according to the Tora the woman is the one that deceiving if she would marry or not. Jodaisem is different than Islam because in Jodaisem the woman in more important than the men 😂 so rape is the most sinful thing and if someone rape a woman she can decide how to punish him. and phdofilia was always forbidden. and if someone does such a sin in Jodaisem he is expelled from the community. and blood sacrifice and genocide? what are you the enkvizitsia??? and why would you call those poor people demons? that is horrible. I don't agree with how they live, but that doesn't mean I can call them demons!
It IS definitely a cult Ess Jay. and Hodaya Bar Yosef you are yourself Haredia and you lied in your post .. you are all going towards mendiat halacha - The shops in Israel are being closed on shabbat, your trains arent running on shabbat and the charedim are taking over ALL of your cities and you know this very well and all of your arsim are turning to become chasidim and are attempting to turn the rest of the society the same way, so dont tell us that Israel is a free thinking society - those free thinking jews will eventually go back to the gola beause Israel is turning to be a fundamentalist country and a shithole in the middle east and Israel will become like the rest of its middle eastern neighbourse its just that it will have HALACHA laws instead of Shh'aria laws.. (same shit ;) ) !! Haredim are inocent and peaceful?? ha ha ha.. YOU LIE ---->> because they are violent and disruptive to your entire country and beat up people in the streets+ they rape and abuse children as a normal part of the children's education. They also receive too juch money in comparison with the rest of the Israeli society and they DO NOT pay taxes like the rest of the population. Why do you lie about what you know of them in Israel?
I was once a Hasidic Jew, but I was poor so in order to progress in life I shaved my beard and peahs and went into the work force. I love the Hasidim. For me there was so much love in the Chasidic community that I became very depressed away from them.
@@spacebanana5000 for the record, I never said the orthodox world does not. The point i was trying to make, is that the secular world has all of that and freedom.
@@spacebanana5000 by your reaction i can see you have been attack by people. Again, I know nothing about orthodox jews, I don't know what your religion approves, disapproves or forbids. All I am saying is that the secular world has everything the religious world. Here take this opportunity and tell me about your religion. Put a link in your reply if you don't want to type. Fair warning I am not a religious person, but I will look into what you send me.
@@germaned.lealnino631 I'm not here to advocate for my particular religion, or try to sway a non-religious person. If you're interested, there are many places you could learn about it. But yes, this community comes under fire frequently for things invented or exaggerated by a few people who had a bad experience. There's been a slew of shows recently that use this theme. I'd rephrase your words slightly: my life has everything the secular world has (including freedom), but also a support network, incredible volunteer groups, mentors, and a faith that only enhances life on a daily basis.
its crazy to think i went though this process. i remember going to my first rave at 18 and being terrified to be seen. having dates via text on different sides of the street no physical contact. having to sneek out late at night to be able to hang out co ed crazy stuff
Gunguy orthodox jewish weddings are actually the most hardcore things I’ve ever been to. That dancing afterwards is fucking crazy and there’s no end to the alcohol. It’s really fun
You must have been asleep while watching the video. The music is always lively and uptempo. There are no drunks, no half dressed woman, no weird suggestive dance moves, like you see at other weddings.
Not at all. It is a very joyous occasion. The men are excited for the man; the women are excited for the woman; and the parents are excited for their children.
I’m from a small minority religious group, and I dare say 99% of “news” about us is biased. Nobody really wants to hear the story of the “insider”, just the “sad, poor me” story of those who have “escaped”.
The story is based from the perspective of those who were formerly from the Hasidic Community & decided to leave it. So, the story appears biased only bc those former members have their individual opinions about life & it opposes remaining in the Hasidic Community. If a news agency wanted to do an in-depth story on life inside the community, they would either be turned away or see only a very limited look as these people are very private & have rules which would need to be respected.
Precisely: "Many young families are heavily dependent on government benefits. Couples marry and bear children young, usually in their early 20s while the fathers are full-time students in religious schools, the mothers working part-time doing office work." www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-new-jersey-orthodox-20170923-story.html www.nydailynews.com/new-york/hasidic-neighborhood-b-klyn-top-beneficiary-section-8-article-1.2639120 www.nytimes.com/1997/04/21/nyregion/religion-and-welfare-shape-economics-for-the-hasidim.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
Albina Leybovich we have ibuprofen for fever...why don't you get a heavy dose of it and maybe when your hate fever goes down, your hallucinations may cease to exist. Fevers can cause bad things, like convulsions, infections...be careful.
I am not Jewish but I was brought up in a beautiful home with two parents who gave me everything and loved me more than words. They taught me how to behave in public how to learn how to act at school I had a beautiful upbringing and you don't have to be Hasidic to have that.
@@thelordjesusismyrock3566 this country was founded on judeo-christian principles meaning that much of Christianity came from Judaism. Jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew. Yes we were Christian Sunday school was every week but I had the same sort of upbringing and insular life that these people have until I got older into my teens.
Every group has fat people. The general American public is overweight. Why would this particular neighborhood be any different. There are Hasidic women power walking in the neighborhood where I used to live where a Hasidic community was next to. It's not a good idea to accept a comment someone makes on the internet without looking into it. Even mine.
@@forcharity216 Are they just eating lettuce or something? Cause most of them are skinny and frail. I dont even mean that as an insult, it's really what I see most of the time. Apart from a few, they are mostly just thin and really pale.
Fun fact: this episode, with its unflattering portrayal of the Jewish community, was Rock Center's last. The show was subsequently cancelled. Coincidence?
Not coincidence at all. The show had sunk into such trashy depths that only jutjobs still watched it by that point and this melodrama is an excellent example of why.
I know at least 100 very VERY intelligent and high positioned people who never watch TV even more- they have none in the homes. AND they are not religious at all. But should you talk to them hardly many of those TV watchers could survive more than 1 minute - due to the difference in the intellect and ability to concentrate. After my family also had thrown TV out of the house - our lives have changed significantly. So, TV (especially today) cannot serve as a measurement of the human development.
@RedEyeOfJupiter 2121 I am going through the same thing 🤔💭. The guilt of not believing is almost unbearable because of early indoctrination. I fear the bible is lies just to keep the masses in order. Written by man alone. I feel so much happier and fulfilled when not under some "title" and despair at what Religion is doing to us all. I think I may be on the right road. I am glad that you have found yours. Peace and Light 🌟
Regardless where you are put IN Life? ....Find God. Don’t leave that relationship, no matter where you are in the “World “ You will always be connected to THE ONE, and find place in the here and now, and on..
While some things they say are true about many Chasids... there's also a lot of misinformation in here... just remember they don't speak for all Chasids and their lifestyles. There are different kinds of Chasidic groups which follow different traditions, and traditions are different even just between families. Chasids in Brooklyn also tend to have a different lifestyle than those who don't live in a place that has so many Chasids. Chasids usually believe in science, too. I went to a lecture about science and religion by a Chasidic science professor. They are people in the modern world, just like most other people. Don't think that they are like the Amish or not interacting with most of the outside world.
SuperSpecialChicken In the Orthodox community, the hair of a woman is considered to be one of the most beautiful parts of her body, therefore, when a woman gets married she covers her natural hair. There are some Jewish women who will instead wrap their hair in a tichel.
Because a woman's hair supposedly has power and is only for her husband to see. I know it's weird, but I think they started to wear wigs because they were tired of being singled out on the street for wearing headscarves.
@@terryjp3050 No weaving rags and stuff in your hair is for decoration but to cover your hair because you don't want anyone to see it with more hair is ridiculous.
So sad that this community thinks this is a loving place. Love is not censored . No respect for individuality. No love for freedom of choice. They dilute themselves with superiority. Fear is their motivator. Love is not grounded in fear!
My understanding about this community is they live off of government or community welfare and are forbidden to have jobs in any outside community. Apparently, other Jewish people get frustrated with them, especially in Israel where they often refuse military and civil duty. In effect they are like a community of ancient monks, living a monastic life, but having large families. These large groups could only survive in a rural community in the past and today only in a welfare state. Like the Amish, farming was their financial core, but no more.
So happy to get a response. Just curious how you know they don't accept welfare, especially in America? I never said they didn't work, I only said they didn't work outside their community. Their income must come from religious tithes, donations, welfare, or unconventional dealings, as I believe, like monks, they shun the outside world. I would be delighted to learn I am in error as I don't hold any group socially damaging unless they tend to siphon their living off of members of other communities. I do believe they are devout to their religion and otherwise socially invisible to the world, and that isn't a problem -- except I have heard they sadly suffer some abuse due to their isolation.
There is so much misinformation going on here, all coming (interestingly) from people OUTSIDE of these communities. Do yourself a favor and visit Crown Heights, meet some random people in the streets from this community, and speak to them about their jobs, their wives and so on...a do everyone a favor and record it and post it online. Though I don't think it'll help much, because when people look for conflict they'll find it anywhere.
I appreciate your response. Again, I hold them no ill will but am slightly distressed due to their possible incursions into the welfare system. At least they are honorable and don't do drugs and crime like so many other people receiving government handouts. I used to believe the Jewish community supported them until I saw videos that many Israelis don't care much for them.
blood sucker baby not in NYC they have their own pa office, and i personally know a Hasidic man that has all 13 kids on welfare, Medicaid and food stamps own a house, car and has a business. these people believe that having a bunch of kids is a rule given to them by their god. also what neighborhoods in NYC have gun-toting community patrols, they have a direct line to their precincts. and they live off the government tit meaning my taxes pay for their religious ideology
Not fear of death - Fear of life is more like it And fear of a god who somehow cares what we say or eat..im a jew but non-religious Like 80% of all jews...the majority are secular
A few things you must realize. Firstly, in chassidism there are many different sects and standards... I am a chassidic Jew currently replying to you on UA-cam using my iPhone. Secondly, and most importantly, the people you are hearing from are people who bitterly left. They exaggerate different points and easily sell it to an ignorant TV host. The reason chassidim try not to mingle with the non Jews is not because they are scared of being killed! Rather it's to prevent assimilation. Any socially normal chassidic Jew knows exactly how to order at a restaurant and what sex is...
Exactly. I see Hasidim Jewish men in the casinos all the time. They may not participate in the outside world but they know plenty about the outside world and hustling.
Ralph _ don’t think you understood...Candice was saying they keep you in the faith by telling you if you leave us the outside world will kill you. If you watched the video, remember what they said, and understand the requirements of a cult then her comment made complete sense.
A strange thing happened to me. I was attending a beauty pageant for a niece of mine and as i was walking up to the door to the gymnasium, a young woman with 3 kids trailing behind her, and holding a baby as well, came right up behind me, so naturally, and politely, i said to her " i got the door for ya " she stood there for a moment and just stared at me not saying a word, then went on through, so i just chalked it up as just rudeness on her part, she had four kids, i thought she could use the help, and it was an innocent thing. Later, i was in the audience and got that " im being watched " feeling, so i turn around and there were several women, all dressed the exact same way ~ all staring at me intently...with laser beam eyes...I told a coworker about the experience and she told me right away who they were and why they did that, i forgot what sect she mentioned, but it was Christian. They do not want men to address their women in anyway at all, even with polite gestures for whatever reason. It was weird because they all seemed to believe i was the devil incarnate, or just frightened, or both, i just got a stepford wives vibe out of the deal, but i also realized that closed communities means closed minds, and even closed hearts as well, not the kind of Christianity that fulfills Gods great commission, to me it has a very negative drawback on the faith.
James, let me explain it in a proper disrespectful way. If your outcome of your experience is a negative drawback on the faith, you are not just dumb, but completely retarded. There are radical groups in every religion, but Christianity has the lesser of them because of the gentle of our faith and it's flexibility. Watch what you lived and ask to your own idiotic mind if God was in their behaviour. Now think about what you drawback in your life and what you should embrace.
They must be told that men or not christians are the devil and not te be trusted. I want to believe that this woman must have thought about your gesture aganin and again and how kind you were and that didn't stroke with what she was told. That she questions her upbringing.
It's absolutely beautiful that the first "forbidden" place he wanted to see was the museum.
Those "dinosaurs" are made of fiberglass, folks. They aren't real dinosaur skeletons.
@@st.joanna2120 That's not a bad thing. When people first started assembling displays of dinosaur bones, they used the actual dinosaur bones, but you have to drill them and wire them together, which is destructive to the actual dinosaur bones. They use replicas now to preserve the originals.
Jews are too intelligent for this lifestyle lol.
@@st.joanna2120 so what. Who cares what they're made of. It opens the minds and curiosity of many young minds.
+zarasbazaar
Is that a statement of objective fact or an expression of your personal feeling? Why do you consider his choice so beautiful? Are you a paleontologist yourself? Or are you one of those fanatics who uses evolutionary theory as a justification for denial of God's existence? Darwin himself did not opine heavily regarding God's existence------------not that he was in a better position to know than anyone else.
Apparently his Hasidic background did not teach him much. The young man still seems to think that happiness is the object of this present life. Jesus, whom the Hasidic community ignores, calls our attention to the greater goal of life everlasting. (John 3:16) 'For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.'
Any religion taken to the extreme will sound very similar. They teach, the outside world is a dangerous place, don’t read that, don’t look at this. Fundamental Christianity is very similar.
yup. im jewish-atheist and these people are fucking terrible. they shield their children from teh outside world, dont work, are misogynistic af, backwards af
@@condescendingsmile9116 I'm the same as u. There are lots in my family that won't even talk to me cause I live my life differently than them. The keys words are "my life" and they choose not to understand that.
@@rgsenerman Yup. dont let anyone tell you how to live YOUR life. the sooner you take control of what you want, the better youll feel
condescendingsmile Religious scripture does that to people.
@@AuntieTrichome
Your a Complete Idiot who Dosen't have a Legitimate Clue of what your talking about.
Oh, and you let yourself be used by Satan as a Tampon.
You ignore Actual Facts because you Can't handle The Truth.
It’s kind of beautiful that he snuck away and had his eyes open through a museum
Glad you said "snuck away" & not "sneaked" sneaked isn't a word.
@@sissyrayself7508 sneaked when sneaking in sneakers lol.
@@sissyrayself7508 Snuck isn't a word sneaked is.
While it may be rare, there's nothing wrong with a first kiss at 20 years old. Somehow people figure it out.
Yeah I thought that was silly/least important aspect of everything. Who cares when your first kiss is, people aren't instructed to kiss or anything, haha.
@Marcus Cato Yup I agree. Kids grow up way too fast and it causes all kinds of problems.
I think the point is that it's not your decision when you're first kiss is, it's the expectation the community puts on you to wait for marriage to have your first kiss. They're not shaming the age you have your first kiss, but rather the red tape the community puts around you and your own personal choices of what you do with your body and with whom.
@@Haddy29 Exactly. I was even older than that at my first kiss but it was bc no one I'd have wanted to kiss (and who would've wanted to kiss me) came along earlier.
Acknowledging that I am an outlier doesn't mean it's a shame when a first kiss happens later in life. Most people with fairly normal psychosexual development will have kissed by their 20s, it's just a fact.
Girlwhomust notbenamed .
The rabbi might mean well, but he's assuming that no gentile families are close knit and that all gentile kids are rude to their parents. He's telling young people that they'll never find the positive things outside that are found in their communities, and that is not true. I was taught NEVER to interrupt when my parents were talking and, trust me, there was no foul language either!
I didnt hear him make any assumption about anyone. However, it takes a community to raise a child. Public Schools dont provide a great community to raise a child.
Me and my wife always pay attention to our son if he has something to say. We stop in our tracks to listen to our son. Thats our job as parents. We treat our very young child as an adult since birth. We don't teach him to be silent among talking adults. His mind is developing and with that comes a lot of speech and questions. I'm not going to teach my son to be mute when adults are talking or tell him too. Children are not inferior to adults but the the opposite, they are superior and the future. Screw all religions
But they sure like us all to send them there
The Torah speaks volumes about Righteous Gentiles. However, when we look at modern liberal society, we see very few immutable ethical values, and so often gentiles are spoken about in a bad way from that perspective. If you are a righteous gentile, then may Gd Bless You and create many many more.
cause it's called "brainwashing" that how they survive.
It's interesting how some of them sound like they're from Europe when they were born and bred in New York.
Well bc they speak Yiddish
Everyone from New York sound strange to me, but I'm from Tennessee so I sound just as strange to them. But some of them women I find very attractive!
Because their first primary language is something other than English.
@@mr.w.146 okey buddy we didn't need that input thanks though
It's the same with amish. They speak dutch majority of the time so when you hear them speak English it sounds like they are also from Europe. It's the fact they were taught a first language other than English.
Interesting. It's like the Jewish version of the Amish.
But the Amish have RUMSPRINGA!!
@@vinskilindqvist4554 except Amish people have some process. That makes young people leave Amish people and go see the modern life for some time. And then they decide if they want to go back...
Piotr Strukiel right, that’s rumspringa
It's a 19th century defence of loving God in the way you are given to bless God. The Welch, The Amish & Mennonites, Mormons and חסידות Jewish people smack dab in the middle of a most diverse metropolis. Include that small island off the coast of India.
In America all but the Golden Calf arm of the Christian Caliphate seek to legislate other's religious behavior. Acting upon this impluse is explicitly UNLAWFUL
Most Americans take pride in the quaintness of some of our countrymen's traditions.
Yes and for the TrumpOgarch Christians there is the Christmas Shopping on 5th Ave.
You won't find Chasidim at the Prayer Breakfast in Fayetteville NC. You will find folks who are equally steeped in ancient theologic traditions. They feel as safe together in the hollers and gaps as the Chasidic Jews in the Subways of NYC.
A great media product of the last century is Readers Digest.
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Forever Family Fun ...exactly!!! And that of polygamist as well it’s all so confusing
Sam (the one who went to the museum) graduating with a degree in bio chemistry is absolutely amazing. His thirst for knowledge never stopped.
HE IS HANDSOME TOO.
Wow, someone is getting a degree. That means they have an unstoppable thirst for knowledge. What pity party bs. Everyone gets a degree, and it says nothing about a thirst for knowledge and especially doesn't imply anything about an unstoppable thirst for it.
So you cover your hair...with hair? 🤔
It makes no sense.
@ not quite...most humans respond from a place called " emotions"/ feelings...and religion is based on a set of rules that does not necessarily respond to "what feels right."..but WHAT IS RIGHT.
there is a big difference between religion and FAITH.
LUMYAI just because someone read the Bible doesn't mean they believed it and committed to Christ.
lumyai9 Amen.
*he went to a forbidden place*
Me..a bar..
*a museum*
Tommy Wiseau hahaha..
I thought it was gonna be a gay bar. He looks kinda nellie to me.
claudermiller lol..I figured it has something to do with a bar..too.
Lmao thought the same thing
Thinking man Ok? What does that have to do with Jews and them not going to museums??
I didn't experience my first kiss/date until I was 28 and I didn't lose my virginity until 34 after i married. I'm not even Jewish. I just knew I wanted to wait until marriage since i was 13 years of age. I was born and raised in Manhattan and moved to Florida at the age age of 12. Been told i should model since my teens but chose a modest normal life. It was a choice for me to go against the norm and I love that i did so and waited.
And women are told that whoring themselves out is "Progressive"; that giving up traditional roles and values is "Progressive"; that giving up their own femininity is somehow empowering, as if women should be striving for power instead of becoming good wives and mothers; that giving up your spiritual and religious life for material and power is "Progressive". If this is "progress", then I don't want that "progress"; this isn't progress and growth, this is regression and decline. Just cause it's not traditional doesn't mean it's progressive, for tradition is not the opposite of progress, tradition is the foundation of progress.
If only our regressive society had progressed enough with good women like you, we wouldn't be as degenerate and corrupt today. Women like you in our day and age, are like the lilly in the swamp - a glimer of beauty and hope in a sea of filth and despair. It is women like you who will bring real respect and value to women in society; it is only women like you who I respect and admire; that is, a real daughter, a real wife, a real mother - a real woman.
@@caireoriwa3249 Blah blah blah
men been the first "whores" and still are the worse.
She does whatever she wants whether she wants to wait till marriage or not is none of your business,your validation isn't relevant.
Mind your business.
@@caireoriwa3249 That is bullshit. I too waited to have sex until a much older age but that doesn't make me a better woman than anyone. Women are figuring out their sexuality in a culture that has repressed it and continues to do so. In absence of a families and societies where we can talk about it without persecution, and being called "whores" (as you so disgustingly put it) the pendulum of what is considered good and bad will just keep swinging from one extreme to the other. It is bullshit. Not all women want to be wives and Mothers and that is good. Just stop.
@@OOoKarmaoOO Right? As if women were treated so well by society when they were all conforming to puritanical sex rules? They were still being raped, cheated on, left out of decision making - and Black women and women of color were always treated like beasts of burden. People kill me with their respectability politics. Women figure out what you want. It is no one's business.
You do realize that this video wasn't about you or your sex life, right?
It just proves that growing up is not just a process of learning but also a process of unlearning . If you don't question why you will never realize your own potential and find true happiness.
Don’t question, that’s how you know it’s a cult.
Or, any religion which controls the way you think with words like hell, excommunication etc. etc. none of which have anything to do with God.
@@rockie6890 Christianity is the biggest cult lmao
@MissDroplette STFU I'm a Hasidic jew
Laugh all you want but their children grow up far more intelligent and family oriented then any of us. That's why they run the world.
It's not a Cult if they are free to make a choice.
Intentionally denying knowledge from people is just another method of imprisonment and control.
True But, their isolation results in their having knowledge we could never possibly acquire. I am not a religionist but I can understand why a person would seek out absolute knowledge in a very narrow field, such as becoming an expert in one book.
Obtain knowledge far apart to the religion is another subject.but obtain knowledge way to dstroy the secread law of religion is not important.the matter were talking is matter of religion..not outside world matter.then so we need to follow the law of religion to be a good cetizen in the community or in the world first.before we obtain knowledge that is excluded from the law of religion..if we christian or gentile do not solemly follow our law of religion then it's up to us.other sect solemly follow their tradistion then it's good because that's their religion.then if in hour religion we are allowed to commit sex to other men and women if it's good to our religion then go ahead.if we think we are do preserve the law of our religion to do that then keep to do it habitualy.
Jews are jews not gentile or christian having no respect their religions law.
like in any religion.
@@mariarosacorrales1899 - B.S.
Whether her family is proud of her or not, I hope she is proud of her own hard work and dedication. They all should be. I can’t imagine how hard it was to leave and want something so different from what you’re raised to want, and I’m glad this segment showed all sides of the life. Very informative and those four adults are very brave and ambitious.
Theresa Bajorek This is probably the only normal comment here.
The process of leaving that world is literally like transitioning to another planet you never knew existed...
The one who went to the museum is so cute.
Trent Kulik He’s very handsome.
He must have been the calendar boy in that neighborhood because I sure have never seen a hasid that cute. Not even by a mile.
Lol, that's why he was being saved inside his circle, to protect him from predators in the rest of the world.
Values of the 1950’s?
More like the 1750’s
that's the idea..
@William Scott BS= Bernie Sanders....lol
B G it's their culture . Let them be
Sureyya EkincI the children don’t have a choice.
@@marmadukescarlet7791
Do children ever really have a choice?
Once you're old enough to walk away, the only thing that can stop you is fear.
I, however, doubt that Amish or Hasidic people are suffering greatly being "isolated" from the "outside". Not like the women who flee FLDS, Watchtower, or Islamic regimes like Iran or Saudi Arabia.
Gymnasium is also a forbidden word for me
Mines " Salad " Nasty word - Mines Beef Beer n Birds ! lol
@@timwilkinson2797 PORK .LIQUOR and freedom
@@richardallan455 the second amendment too
The same word is used in Europe for high school.
@@masoncrowell1452 What do they do for jobs with no/ limited post secondary education? and how do they get money to raise 10 kids? ans have a decent lifestyle? Afford living in NYC?
I used to run for a running club. Every week a Hasidic girl would turn up and run in her dress. She was good. Her parents would come and support her, which I thought was so great given that it would be frowned upon in their community.
summerrr1 ew
I see lots of Hasidic Women power walking over the Williamsburg Bridge.
@@slappywhite6137 really...thats why you are a bogited racist.
@@gregglass4796 does it bother you how someone exercises? If yes, why?
@@slappywhite6137 bigoted
The amish have rumspringa. A tradition that gives young people a chance to explore the outside world.
Not all Amish
jump around - in literal translation- from German !
Yoiung men
@@christinetaylor70 I thought women participated as well
@@christinetaylor70 Wrong. Women take part in it too.
Religion fears 2 things: free thoughts and free women.
Well, l invite you then to do your own research about The Bahá'i Faith, you might get surprised.
By the way, Bahai.org is a good place to start with. Cheers!
AGREED!!
Actually Christianity is based on free will and the concept of all humans being equal, and it is the fulfillment of Judaism. The Talmud is a collection of traditions started after the captivity that added “clarification” to the Torah, they were trying so hard to obey the Law that they went majorly overboard and missed the point, Jesus denounced many of these strict traditions.
True. As if God wants that?
HelenaRG71 And you fear letting people believe whatever they want to believe so long as it’s exactly what you believe in
1950s the Rabbi says? Try American culture back in the 1750s.
The US wasn't even a country in the 1750's, it was British but whatever....
Jewish sabbateans killed the Puritan spirit, I think
@@daveconrad6562 i think not
@@olympia5758 But, we were on American soil, living free from Britain, as American citizens with religious freedoms. The British controlled us as colonies only for the MONEY(taxation, tariffs). They cared less about our religious freedom; they controlled England by having only one government church, the Church of England.
It was pretty accurate, the core values of society were very different in the 1950’s of America. Also, the Declaration of Independence was in 1776... 1750 would have seen Monarchal viewpoints and cultural influences.
"The secular world would love to have that." So nobody else came from a good family? See, that's a dangerous/stupid teaching. "Nobody outside our circle has a good life."
@marco conti But you're right though. Freddy, Michael and I ....we were ALL latch key kids lol
Well????
he didn't say that he said anyone would want that life. I don't agree...I would not want to wear a wig ...they are itchy and hot, I wouldn't only want to hang around other women all the time men are interesting too, and I wouldn't want to wear wool and long sleeves in the summer nor would i want 10 kids. Soooooo he's wrong.
@@tslilbearshoppe9870 The wig thing seems like total BS cheating. It's like your God tells you not to eat bacon, but you think if you eat fake bacon your ok. Seems like legalistic skirting of the intent.
@@Agiantpansy most religious people are living in bondage. I follow Jesus Christ and the word of God ...not an institution, not a religion and he just preaches love, giving, caring, peace and love and salvation. That's good enough for me. I don't need to rock at a wall, chant, worry bout stepping on ants, or tree worship, dressing a certain way, eating a certain thing or beat myself up for my actions...I am free. Thank you Jesus!
That rabbi is awful, his attitude is part of the problem.
Wrong. The OTD community's attitude is THE problem. Stop blaming religion for your faults and shortcomings. Those that 'leave the fold' are merely a bunch of angry, hateful and spiteful jerks. If lack of education is their issue, then why not just get an education? Yes, all is possible nowadays right in our own community, if you only care to inquire. But of course they'd rather be angry and spread unnecessary hatred. That's what floats their boat. Nothing else. If traditional Hassidic garb or lifestyle is what bothers them, Modern Orthodoxy is a viable solution.
The rabbi is right on target in his message to these losers to stop hurting those that nurtured them (and still care about them -- believe it or not.)
Why (seemingly) educated people give these dolts a forum is beyond me.
@@jekyljacobson no.
Serena Sethi You prove my point...
he's just as brainwashed as the rest
@@jekyljacobson condoning indoctrination sounds like it goes against the whole concept of education
This is how sexual abuse remains hidden
i guess you might know
Impartial Ted so true
@@terryjp3050 not only true, but statistical fact
Daniel Olortegui CHRISTIANS/ JEWS DO NOT WORSHIP THE SAME GOD AS MUSLIMS, ALLAH IS SATAN. I’ve read the Qu’ran & it’s a highly vague & shallow version of the Bible full of statements & just telling people what to do in these tiny verses for each surah.
It literally sounds like a coaching book😂 “”Say this to People of the Scripture”” or “”Say this to disbelievers”” or your gonna burn on the Last day !”. The Quran doesn’t even tell u a linear storyline in chronological order like it does in the Bible of how man came to be, our original sin that lead to the fall of man kind, Christ coming to pay that price for sin which is death so we can be in heaven again with YAHWEH THE TRUE NAME REVEALED BY GOD TO MOSES. Allah has 99 Names in Islam, but guess who also has many many names, Satan, the Old Serpert !! In The Bible God only has ONE NAME & ONE NAME ALONE TO BE REMEMBERED BY THROUGHOUT ALL THE AGES.
Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, **I Am That I Am**: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: ****this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations****.
Notice how God didn’t say God of Ishmael? Because Ishmael was from the seed of a prostitute which God did not want Abraham to have that’s why he told him to have another child named Isaac who Christ would descend from not Muhammad !! Hmmmmm. This is another of many reasons why this book wasn’t written by the same True God.
WHERE IS THE 10 COMMANDMENTS IN THE QURAN? NOWHERE ! IF THE QURAN CAME FROM THE TRUE GOD U THINK HE’D JUST FORGET HIS MOST IMPORTANT COMMANDMENTS?
When the Quran talks about the prophets it literally only gives them like one, two sentence n jumps all over the place like the author doesn’t kno how to tell a story!!😂 it’s sooo vague. basically sum repetitive bs like “Allah is most merciful”
WE HAVE ENTIRE BOOKS WRITTEN BY THE PROPHETS U CLAIM TO FOLLOW WHICH GIVES US A COMPLETE STORY UNLIKE MUSLIMS.
THERES A REASON WHY THE TORAH & GOSPEL ARE ONE BOOK BEING THE HOLY BIBLE. ITS BECAUSE THEY GO HAND IN HAND & TELL THE SAME STORY & PROPHECIES IN THE TORAH WHICH R FULFILLED IN THE GOSPEL BY JESUS CHRIST. The Quran fits nowhere in here. It contradicts the the 2 Holy Books before it confirming each other proving itself to be a counterfeit Holy Book and not the true religion
Compare Muhammad’s last words compared to Christ. Muhammad literally cursed Jews & Christians on his deathbed in the Hadith while Christ forgave those who beat,ripped to shreds by Roman whips, mocked, & nailed to cross him to the cross. He said “ Father !! Forgive them.. for they know not what they do !”
ISLAM LITERALLY SPREAD BY THE SWORD AND WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BIGGEST AND LONGEST SLAVE TRADE IN HISTORY THAT LASTED 1400 YEARS . The reason u guys are muslim is because ur country was conquered n was forced to convert to Islam or pay the jizayah !! Which was “protection tax” or else the Muslims wud cut ur head off.
Surah 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled”
Surah 9:5 “And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful”
^ peaceful God u got there guys😂 ISIS & all terrorist follow the Quran better then anybody in the western world. They’re doing exactly what Muhammad did in his time. BUT WHAT DID CHRIST SAY?
Matthew 5:43- 46
43 “Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye?
CHRISTIANS WERE PERSECUTED FOR OVER 300 YEARS N NEVER ROSE THE SWORD LIKE MUHAMMAD, HIS FOLLOWERS & THE OTTOMAN CALIPHATE THAT CAME OUT IF IT OR FORCED CONVERSIONS.
I’ve read the Quran brother now it’s time for u to read The Bible !
Christ said no one comes to the Father except by through him ! He said he is the Alpha & the Omega, the First & The Last, what began with me shall end with me !!
Thats so true
Here’s a forbidden word... EXERCISE
Every time I hear it I wash my mouth out with a martini 🍸
Ridiculous. How can something that is so good be so bad ?
SRC , you too?
Don K
Devils leaves!!!!!! I will forever refer to 🥗 as that 🤣🤣
Kathrin Kleinknecht
Perhaps but it doesn’t taste nearly as good 💦
👉🏾😂😂@SRC
America in the 1950s? Hahahaha
No, in your imagination maybe, but this isn't even what TV 1950s was like, and that was hella more cookie cutter bullshit.
For most people we have an inherent wanting to learn, to see, to feel and to make choices. This is what makes us human. Some that were raised in the Hasidic community will want to experience the outside world and others will just be content to be where they are. I have no problem with either as long as they are happy.
For YEARS, I worked in an OB/GYN Office on the upper East side with a GREAT population of Hasidic patients and saw MANY STD cases. We were NEVER allowed to tell these women the truth about the true nature of the infections, but were instructed to tell them that they had "yeast infections". To the community, a yeast infection was normal and therefore we would treat the patient and her husband with the proper medication to treat the "yeast" infection!!
Are you serious? A yeast infection? Grow up, people.
C. F. Patterson Wow, R you serious?!
What
JW McCabe.... it’s HIPAA, not HIPPA
I believe it...
I lived on south 9thst in Williamsburg for years , and I can tell you charity is big in this chasidic community. I take nightly walks very late at night when everyone is a sleep and being an artist I do my best thinking this way. You will always find little boxes outside the houses with all kinds of food . Bread , cheese , pastries. This is left there for charity. Faith , hope , and charity.
SAY WHAT YOU WANT , BUT TRY FINDING A PASTRAMI SANDWICH ON PARK AVE AT 3AM. I love these people.
DINOSAURS. Who knew Dinosaurs were the key to liberation
Its sad to think they want to believe that people who live secular lives/other religions don't have beautiful homes and don't raise good, honest hard working children.
I am a secular jew, and I certainly was brought up in a loving home...
And contrary to that, I've witnessed some real indifference from parents towards their children in ultra orthodox/Hassidic households! It was shocking - no interaction between parents and children, no time together, no love, nothing! I consider that child abuse!
Let them talk...they Think they know it all
I’m a Jew to I live in france I am reform Jew ( like my mum) my dads family is orthodox, and me too, I’ve been raised in a household of love ( I think!!)
Little Kitty Those parents were themselves raised in a similar environment while prevented from interacting with wider society. Emotionally, they do not know better.
It’s a generational cycle you see at times outside of religion as well.
I am a Reform Jew. I was also raised in a loving home. I still go to shul on Friday nights and celebrate the Jewish holidays.
What an interesting video. Thank you for sharing it.
You can study physics and still be observant jew
These are members of the ultra orthodox sect. Like any religious group that takes their faith literally they take it to the extreme.
From replays I've seen from this community they don't think you can . They think you just should study scripture, most of the men don't work they just study scripture the women work . To me that's pretty odd and unbalanced
But you can't study physics if you're in a cult
@@everythingisfine9988 you could, some people are in the science cult. They hide behind the word "science" for everything except for real science.
@@everythingisfine9988 I think what the original post is trying to say is that not all of Judaism is a cult. There are tons of observant (and even hasidic) Jews that value secular education, can believe in both Judaism and evolution, and have jobs in the "normal" world. There are communities that are cult-ish, but that's not an accurate representation of all observant Jews.
I love learning and asking questions. It’s been an amazing experience going to college and going to my church with the many questions I have and being encouraged to investigate and find answers for myself. That’s how life ought to be. Not being forced to live in ignorance.
What faith/denomination do you believe in?
Do you get shunned for asking questions? Or is it allowed
Men dressing alike and having long curls on the side of the head is NOT a Biblical teaching.
No it’s not
@ Doris, {Leviticus 19:27} is about pagan mourning practices, when a family member died the pagans ( Canaanites ) would shave their heads and violently pull out their beards. God was instructing the Israelites not to that when they mourn, they would also cut themselves fo. for the dead.
No. And it isn't a crime either.
The LORD did not make man to look like satan's people. Satan did this. Jews of every kind are NOT OF THE HOLY BIBLE AT ALL.
@joy0923 Torah only.
This is no different from fundamentalists of ANY religion or even societies run by an ideology.
Whatever. In the XXI century, this is extreme!
Right, this is same as Mormon or Scientology, however, whose to say, who knows how to be happy? Wasn't tne original plan to be happy? Isn't that the point of living and civilization? If not, then wouldn't we be better off suffering in the wilderness?
Bull$hit.
No....not every religion forces you to marry someone you don’t love, or shuns you if you decide to leave the church, or that doesn’t allow TV, gymnasium and meuseums
Good point. Many Hasidim have been known to slaughter other Jews who don’t follow their way of life, not to mention commit broad acts of terror against secular people of all faiths for being non-believers. Wait, that is absolutely not the case, and the ANY is pure bullshit, like any generalization.
3:28 I think that's a major part of the issue. These enclaves didn't truly take off until the post-Holocaust diaspora. There's a case to be made that the excessive strictness is a symptom of cultural trauma. Most people are reluctant to deal with their trauma, and that allows it to fester. It may be comparatively less dysfunctional than what has happened to other groups, but it's not a healthy outlook.
Yes, I love this insight. If we think about attachment theory, this is like avoidant attachment at the societal scale.
This is a very intelligent comment. You’re a smart cookie!
Hey these peeps want to be old school thank God we still have cultures like this. I’m Roman Catholic but I’ve always respected my Jewish brothers! Hard workers, great business people, excellent food, family values! I dig it
"Know you could be happy" -what a powerful response to the question of what he would say to any other Hasidic Jew that was curious about the world outside of the community.
...yes, the lie the world tells you...I don’t agree with extremes, but “being happy” is also a choice, unfortunately many pay sever penalties for “happiness”...their version of it. The world still continues to lure people into its idea of “happiness”. Just look at all the non Hasidic folk here in the comments...I’m sure their just abounding in pure happiness...everyday! Especially the ones who have the Rx kind.
the young people here are wonderful , they want freedom thats all and it ' s everyone's basic right.
This is not biblical Judaism. This is a traditional man made version of the many religions from Babylon.
There is no such thing as biblical judaism.
whiteonyx11 Not too often you get a summery like that, wow
Iraqis Jews don't live like this way don't throw your dirty laundry on the great Babylon civilization.
Farah Mthkoor babylon is abomination.
@@JellyBean-gy7cn
This is the nonsense of the Bible and the Talmud all because the old Babylonians won the war against the Israelites and destroyed their Solomon Temple and bring them back to Babylon in chains and their god didn't save them.
I grew up religious (not even Hasidic) and there's definitely elements of guilt that are used to keep those 'in the fold'. I came to be religious during middle school after anti-semitic bullshit in public school. I think what kept me away from truly going all-in on religion was my passion for science. I was a science kid long before I was religious (so far as getting a perfect science score on my ACT...let's ignore the rest lol) despite the fact that my school barely had secular education. I was fascinated by how the world works and the potential for space exploration.
I had to self-teach myself the basics of algebra and geometry to get through college...and when studying the GRE for my MBA I realized that I didn't even cover all of that myself. Secular studies are considered unimportant and secondary to rabbinical teachings of Gemara, Midrash, and Rashi, books that study biblical interpretations and archaic law precedents that have not applied to modern society in hundreds of years...some perhaps thousands.
Even more than that...I was never fully accepted within Jewish circles. There's a lot of division beyond the type of religiousness you are, including your ethnic background (Ashkenazi or Sephardi) or your immigrant one (Bukharians, Syrians, Iranians, etc). Being a Hispanic Jew it's a complicated topic that I never had an answer on. That and being non-religious in the past meant I could never really fit in, so I never grew too comfortable with the lifestyle and wasn't hard to be a free thinker.
I can certainly see though that for many there's a lot of comfort in staying inside. You don't want to receive criticism from your friends and family. Or threats from your own parents. Judaism is a very hard religion to practice secularly, and with so many holidays, traditions, time for learning archaic laws, and hours of daily prayers, it's really easy for all those rituals to build a level of consistency and comfort...almost making life autonomous. That level of routine makes every day run like autopilot.
If science keeps you away from loving God, you are retarded in every possible religion, I hope is not the case.
Do you know how to speak in Ladino (sephardic castilian/spanish)?
You're presuming science contradicts Judaism. The Vilna Gaon says otherwise, and very many sects of Orthodox Judaism encourage secular studies and science because it can help us better understand Torah. Neuroscience, economics, archeology, etc. They all reinforce Tanach and Talmudic teachings.
I was atheist, then I became Jewish. I won't make any claims about myself compared to you, but I'm more analytical and scholarly than most.
One can look at the habit-building and routines of Judaism as a positive, as I did, coming from my meta-analysis on different neuroscience research.
modern orthodoxy is the place for you
Someone else posted a comment about how "not questioning" is characteristic of a cult. I'd like to further that and say that anyone who never questions their own actions/decisions/mentalities is a cult unto themselves. I'm uneasy around ppl who use phrases like "no regrets"
Absolutely!
Uneasy about people who have no regrets? Maybe people who feel that way DID examine their decisions/actions and came to the same conclusion, with no regrets.
All Me life is for learning and mistakes will be made. What good are regrets?
All Me It’s not because you don’t have regrets that you won’t question yourself and/or your future actions/decisions
Note to that Rabbi, it is possible to have a loving family/community and knowledge of the world around you
I will always respect cultural and religious groups, but I have zero respect for any society that leeches off government welfare without giving back to the community
FYI this community are one of the biggest taxpayers in NY. Theres a much larger percentage of successful millionaires in this community than you think.
You sound racist and ignorant. Ppl look at Jewish ppl the same way they look at us black ppl. Stereotypes full of ignorance
Richard Lew what are you talking about
Where’s the lie? There is a big issue in NY about some not all but some receiving illegal welfare and public assistance meanwhile they’re very wealthy
Maybe the welfare fraud cases of the past year in Lakewood, NJ.
No, it’s not like 1950s American culture. Not at all.
Tracy Monroe to be fair that first rabbi they interviewed is not as fanatical as those from the sects those people they interviewed later were originally from. B
He means the general gender roles and values in some respects e.g.. The women wear skirts, stay home to cook clean and have kids, the man is the head of the household, he wears a hat, the kids respect the parents. You get married and stay married. That sort of thing. I think your comment was a bit harsh when you can see what he means surely.
@@hannahbaxter8825 Thank you for your support! Look up 'judge rachel frier' a hassidic judge! We don't all sit home to cook and clean.
@@tg2683 I'm jewish I know
@@tg2683 One** judge?! LOL. I left bec. of your misogyny (among other reasons) w/ no regrets.
Don`t see much difference between these Hasidics and other religious sects like the Amish. The Amish also have their own Germanic type of language. Want to be foreigners in their own birth countries.
Although crime rates and teenage delinquency are probably very low or even non-existent among these religious communities, it comes with a price of being more like a worker ant being totally subservient to their community and not independent free willed and free thinking persons in their own right, in-fact they become institutionalised, unable to cope in the real world.
Just read their Talmud, then you’ll know.
@arronnov just incest
What is the " Real world"
@Perce, I am Ashkenazi Jewish (but secular). Yiddish is sort of like the German that the Amish or Pensylvania Dutch (Daych) speak. Yiddish is based on Medieval High German more like Swiss or Austrian.
@@Lagolop askenazi the worst king Bulan Caucasus mountains Turkic Mongoloid ring a bell?
Even though I am a Reform Jew, this reminds me of my Evangelical Christian sister-in-law who sent her children to "unlearn" about dinosaurs.
reform Jew!? what that suppose to be?! liberal lgbt?! or frankist messianic?!
Your sister-in-law is not christian, is just stupid.
@@messianic_scam It’s the liberal branch of Judaism. I to am a Reform Jew. We aren’t as strict with the laws. We believe in science. I do online Jewish educational classes with my Rabbinical staff on Zoom. I watch the livestream services on Facebook live. We are the biggest Jewish movement in North America.
@@PinkHawk191
there is no reformer judasim it's not Christianty that's make you messianic
@@PinkHawk191
of course your the biggest movement you're Messianic totally not jews
If everyone in that community went to college, they'd all be geniuses. Studying for 13 hours a day for 6 days straight is tough, but it's a skill that will get them amazing education
Its true. I went to a more modern religious Jewish school. In my class, 100% have bachelors degrees and 70% have Masters or Doctorates.
i dunno how they make monney in that culture??? they said most women come out of hs amd get marred and have babies. IF THEY MARRY MEN NEAR THEOR OWN AGE,,, THAN HO DO THESE MEN SUPPORT THES WOMEN AND KIDS??
8:04 - I hate mentalities like this. Refusal to empathize, discouraging free thought, and imposing your beliefs onto others.
This is how religion perpetuates itself.
Lotta racism can come from those type of closed off groups
and look what comes to them over and over
Claudia r they had a problem with the spread of herpes from a few of the rabbis. Disgusting. Unsanitary, creepy, unnecessary, and wrong on all levels.
Sanjay W it’s their life NOT yours
@@Cultwatch123 so? Its a fact
@Smileyrie James So why does the talmud allow child sex?
8:10 We have those things too in the secular world. This rabbi has never lived a life in the secular world so where does his knowledge come from to judge.
To add context most are within the secular world by being able to explore unlike other followers that must stay close
Unwanted observation!
@@terrywilder9 dito
Everything extreme is bad. I am sure the family values taught in the community are admirable but if they come with a high price i.e. giving up education, then is questionable
This is not extreme. The Dead Sea Scrolls community was extreme.
@Joe Hoe No, Sir. Torah-Observant Judaism is an over 2,000 year old world religion. It had adherents from all over, something which made the Roman Empire jealous.
"Everything extreme is bad." Is this written in stone somewhere ? Is it in the Bible or Talmud ? Is it even true ? Barry Goldwater famously said, "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!" Is there something l wrong about an "extreme" love of classical music that drives a musician to achieve their best, or drives a philanthropist to support orchestras all over the country ?
I think I'll reject your statement that "Everything [EVERYTHING] extreme is bad", but will keep my eye out for "Extreme" things and evaluate them as they come up.
@Joe Hoe You are a moron. It isn't religion driving IDF DEFENSIVE operations in the so-called "occupied territories". (Israel pulled out of Gush Katif in 2005, but you don't care to learn about anything "positive" Israel does.) Bottom line: you're just another racist not making an effort to understand the situation.
Andressa Hoese
You seem to equate 'education' with public education, or secular education as offered by accredited institutions. There are MANY kinds of education besides that.
But no matter: I am NOT AT ALL in sympathy with Hasidic Judaism, because it denies the fact that JESUS (Yeshua) is their rightful Messiah. They have not understood their own Scriptures properly.
'Anything extreme is bad.' That in itself is an extreme statement, don't you find? It is certainly is too categorical to be of consistent practical value in a complex world beset by urgent problems.
This precept is far more nuanced:
(Ecclesiastes 7:18)
'It is good that you grasp one thing and also not let go of the other, for the one who fears God comes forth with both of them.'
Not a fully accurate interpretation of Hasidic community, not common when it comes to media. Peter gives another perspective to this community.
Peter visits Chabad Hasidic jews, which are completely separate from these Hasidic Jews, members of cults such as Satmar. Chabad is a cult that is far more lenient and accepting to non jews and secular jews, as their goal is to reach secular jews and connect them to judaism. Satmar is a cult that is dedicated to isolation from secular jews as well as non jews, and is nothing like the many modern orthodox chabad hasidic jews. Hasidic jews come in a wide range of experiences and sects, and some are far more abusive while others are usually more harmless.
Big DARK SIDE hidden. All the sexul abuse, crime, alcoholism etc. in short every thing in secular life is there too. acted as though they are above it.
The wife and child beatings are awful
True. A lot of them are also drug addicts.
@@magicworld3242
Am not at all surprised at that. A repressed skewed extremist world.
@rose rose The Self Chosenites. I grew up in a Jew neighborhood. Supremacists.
@supernumery armenoid race. Zohar Toldoth Noah 63b when the real messiah comes each Jew will have 2800 slaves
This is not an accurate representation of MOST Jewish people in America. The Talmud is probably one of the most orthodox writings in the Jewish religion and many Jewish people do not follow it. There are so many different branches of Judaism that promote equal rights, and that are all for a modern society. this type of community is comparable to Amish or cult religions and should not be used as a way to perceive all Jewish people.
There are so many different ways to interpret the Torah, Just like there are different ways to interpret the Bible. Clearly people don’t follow every single thing that the Bible says because it wouldn’t make sense in a modern world. However, in every religion there are groups of people who take every word that G-d wrote literally. We have to remember that not everyone is like this.
Please do your research before basing your views on an entire religion from one video that shows the bad side of it.
Plus, Judaism is a religion, but 12 tribes of Israel are blood lines.
The Irony is that they are wonderful people because of their roots in wonderful families. The kid who got his PHD... he learned his thirst for knowledge when he was taight Talmud in the correct way. One day they will see it
Question everything. Be a freethinker
At your own peril
@@GullibleTarget I believe in second amendment too
boo
Mike Vega you sound like a nut
Southeastern777 you sound like one of the uneducated trumpturds. Sad.
The talk about modesty and women covering their hair reminded me of Muslim and Amish discussions I've seen on other shows.
That's because most people have a concept of modesty, unlike the average, mainstream, secular American commoner.
@@ojitosrodriguez114 "unlike the average, mainstream, secular American commoner." Have you been living with your head in the sand all your life?
Americans are actually pretty prude overall
muslim is better than this
CJ all the same
Gymnasium comes from the Greek word gymnós, meaning naked. Athletes exercised and played games in the nude. It was related to debauchery and the bacchanalia.
Daniel Brooks boy, I guess dodge ball would really have hurt back then. 🎯😬😲
Daniel Brooks I think, if I recall correctly, it is also German for "school". But in the ancient Greek gymnasium, I think the debauchery was in the bath house. lol
Just like nowadays? Damn I’m missing out then when I go. Maybe it’s only for the body beautifuls?
The Rabbi is right... A loving family is the most important thing the world has lost its mind..
A loving family that keeps you ignorant is not loving.
there are loving families in every part of society and unloving ones in every part including here
The definition of a cult.
Michele Lawrence All religions can be considered a cult. I can say the Roman Catholic Church is a breeding ground for child molesters. Don't judge other peoples beliefs unless u want urs judged.
True, also 80 percent of us are non religious, like myself.
I agree every religion has cultish qulities ,better to just away from crap like that
But when people hear cult they this all sorts of bizzare things and that's not what's going on there
These are normal hassidic family not nutty orthodox people who live in their own world and even they sometimes leave the community...I knew some who became totally non-religious
Culture simple
Sounds like a cult
Ess Jaaayy Sounds like?!!
IT IS !!
Ess Jaaayy it's not exactly a cult but I understand why it would seem as this, I think you're partway right, because I live in Israel we have some "hasidot" like those in broklin, but they are a tiny minority because Jodaisem today have more free thinking jews as me, or as we call it "traditional jews" that are a bit more like most of the Crist today.
but the haredim is very innocent and most of them are peaceful and they are learning from a very young age how important is that to respect and love the poor (that is the reason that almost no one is starving to death in Israel, because we give so much charity that even the poorest will have a decent meal unless they are on drugs and those doesnt remember how to get one, and that is because of the Haredis.)
but you are right about the problem with isolation. and to tell you the truth, even in Israel we're not sure how to help them.
larry johnson
phdofilia? actually according to the Tora the woman is the one that deceiving if she would marry or not. Jodaisem is different than Islam because in Jodaisem the woman in more important than the men 😂
so rape is the most sinful thing and if someone rape a woman she can decide how to punish him.
and phdofilia was always forbidden. and if someone does such a sin in Jodaisem he is expelled from the community.
and blood sacrifice and genocide? what are you the enkvizitsia???
and why would you call those poor people demons? that is horrible. I don't agree with how they live, but that doesn't mean I can call them demons!
It IS definitely a cult Ess Jay. and Hodaya Bar Yosef you are yourself Haredia and you lied in your post .. you are all going towards mendiat halacha - The shops in Israel are being closed on shabbat, your trains arent running on shabbat and the charedim are taking over ALL of your cities and you know this very well and all of your arsim are turning to become chasidim and are attempting to turn the rest of the society the same way, so dont tell us that Israel is a free thinking society - those free thinking jews will eventually go back to the gola beause Israel is turning to be a fundamentalist country and a shithole in the middle east and Israel will become like the rest of its middle eastern neighbourse its just that it will have HALACHA laws instead of Shh'aria laws.. (same shit ;) ) !! Haredim are inocent and peaceful?? ha ha ha.. YOU LIE ---->> because they are violent and disruptive to your entire country and beat up people in the streets+ they rape and abuse children as a normal part of the children's education. They also receive too juch money in comparison with the rest of the Israeli society and they DO NOT pay taxes like the rest of the population. Why do you lie about what you know of them in Israel?
I was once a Hasidic Jew, but I was poor so in order to progress in life I shaved my beard and peahs and went into the work force. I love the Hasidim. For me there was so much love in the Chasidic community that I became very depressed away from them.
The secular world has values, love and more. Freedom, encouragement, support and kisses.
Paint your stereotypes, by all means. The Orthodox world has all that, and more. I can't say it strongly enough.
@@spacebanana5000 for the record, I never said the orthodox world does not. The point i was trying to make, is that the secular world has all of that and freedom.
@@germaned.lealnino631 These people paint a false impression. I'm Orthodox. What freedom are you referring to that I haven't got?
@@spacebanana5000 by your reaction i can see you have been attack by people. Again, I know nothing about orthodox jews, I don't know what your religion approves, disapproves or forbids. All I am saying is that the secular world has everything the religious world. Here take this opportunity and tell me about your religion. Put a link in your reply if you don't want to type. Fair warning I am not a religious person, but I will look into what you send me.
@@germaned.lealnino631 I'm not here to advocate for my particular religion, or try to sway a non-religious person. If you're interested, there are many places you could learn about it. But yes, this community comes under fire frequently for things invented or exaggerated by a few people who had a bad experience. There's been a slew of shows recently that use this theme. I'd rephrase your words slightly: my life has everything the secular world has (including freedom), but also a support network, incredible volunteer groups, mentors, and a faith that only enhances life on a daily basis.
its crazy to think i went though this process. i remember going to my first rave at 18 and being terrified to be seen. having dates via text on different sides of the street no physical contact. having to sneek out late at night to be able to hang out co ed crazy stuff
How has being able to hang out and do "co ed" stuff improved your life?
That wedding ceremony is about as cheerful as a funeral
Gunguy orthodox jewish weddings are actually the most hardcore things I’ve ever been to. That dancing afterwards is fucking crazy and there’s no end to the alcohol. It’s really fun
I disagree. They can have a lot of fun. Different, but there can be a lot of joy that is genuine and heartfelt.
You must have been asleep while watching the video. The music is always lively and uptempo. There are no drunks, no half dressed woman, no weird suggestive dance moves, like you see at other weddings.
Not at all. It is a very joyous occasion. The men are excited for the man; the women are excited for the woman; and the parents are excited for their children.
@@TacShooter but the couple aren't excited to be together. So sad
I wonder how many of the husbands have Ashley Madison accounts.
Kara A exactly lived next to a only Hasidic community and the men would go to a bar by strip club go with prostitutes and do drugs.
Randy Rose sad.
Kara A ... Ashley madistein?
Randy Rose really, the men? Or a horny outcast?
Terry Dacktill lol
I’m not Jewish and I’m not defending the Hasidic community, but to be fair, this piece has an obvious bias against them.
Check out Peter sanatanello he did a very interesting piece on them. He ate a shabbat meal with them! Very eye opening
I’m from a small minority religious group, and I dare say 99% of “news” about us is biased. Nobody really wants to hear the story of the “insider”, just the “sad, poor me” story of those who have “escaped”.
@@raylenenielsen5943 than go and inform us with your movie here in youtube! Educate us...
The story is based from the perspective of those who were formerly from the Hasidic Community & decided to leave it. So, the story appears biased only bc those former members have their individual opinions about life & it opposes remaining in the Hasidic Community.
If a news agency wanted to do an in-depth story on life inside the community, they would either be turned away or see only a very limited look as these people are very private & have rules which would need to be respected.
Yeah, if it was Mu slims … then all is fair!
Would be fine if they weren't abusing the welfare system.
Giddeon Goode they abuse everything that put their crusty little fingers on
Precisely:
"Many young families are heavily dependent on government benefits. Couples marry and bear children young, usually in their early 20s while the fathers are full-time students in religious schools, the mothers working part-time doing office work."
www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-new-jersey-orthodox-20170923-story.html
www.nydailynews.com/new-york/hasidic-neighborhood-b-klyn-top-beneficiary-section-8-article-1.2639120
www.nytimes.com/1997/04/21/nyregion/religion-and-welfare-shape-economics-for-the-hasidim.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
I agree with you. I am a Jew myself but they are making me sick.
Barbi Button can I see what's under your well manicured nails?
Albina Leybovich we have ibuprofen for fever...why don't you get a heavy dose of it and maybe when your hate fever goes down, your hallucinations may cease to exist. Fevers can cause bad things, like convulsions, infections...be careful.
I am not Jewish but I was brought up in a beautiful home with two parents who gave me everything and loved me more than words. They taught me how to behave in public how to learn how to act at school I had a beautiful upbringing and you don't have to be Hasidic to have that.
Elizabeth Shaw those morals come from a christian worldview
@@thelordjesusismyrock3566 this country was founded on judeo-christian principles meaning that much of Christianity came from Judaism. Jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew. Yes we were Christian Sunday school was every week but I had the same sort of upbringing and insular life that these people have until I got older into my teens.
@@elizabethshaw734 Yes but Jews do not accept Jesus and gentiles
Many of these families are abusive. I've worked with women who've left and the stories are shocking. They have fourth grade educations at best.
I love and respect them for their wisdom and peace.
No peace
Your choosing is one thing but being told what you choose is revolting
the whole exercise thing would explain why so many hasidic Jews are in such awful shape
most are vegetarians and dont eat junk
Every group has fat people. The general American public is overweight. Why would this particular neighborhood be any different. There are Hasidic women power walking in the neighborhood where I used to live where a Hasidic community was next to. It's not a good idea to accept a comment someone makes on the internet without looking into it. Even mine.
That was a real mindless comment
@@forcharity216 Are they just eating lettuce or something? Cause most of them are skinny and frail. I dont even mean that as an insult, it's really what I see most of the time. Apart from a few, they are mostly just thin and really pale.
@@akiman712oh really not. The food there… good stuff the best
Fun fact: this episode, with its unflattering portrayal of the Jewish community, was Rock Center's last. The show was subsequently cancelled.
Coincidence?
I think not...
No. Decent people all over would not tolerate antisemitism.
Not coincidence at all. The show had sunk into such trashy depths that only jutjobs still watched it by that point and this melodrama is an excellent example of why.
Gangsters
PURE COINCIDENCE
"Never watched TV" ?
Smart, then....
They control and own the tv stations.
Brainwashed from birth. They get all the propaganda at home and from Rabbis. It's a cult.
Trust me that many of them watch TV and movies
What??? When on God's green earth has TELEVISION ever set an example of how intelligent a person is?
I know at least 100 very VERY intelligent and high positioned people who never watch TV even more- they have none in the homes. AND they are not religious at all. But should you talk to them hardly many of those TV watchers could survive more than 1 minute - due to the difference in the intellect and ability to concentrate. After my family also had thrown TV out of the house - our lives have changed significantly. So, TV (especially today) cannot serve as a measurement of the human development.
I dont reminder anything from the 1950s being like that. Besides, how would he even know??
It's called books
I too left a similar community. We were not Chassidic, but Charedi. It was the best thing I ever did for myself.
Did you get support in making the break?
Hope u are allright now!?
So now what do you have in you life ?
@@brucelevine6517 Frieden for the Neshume they have now!!!
@RedEyeOfJupiter 2121 I am going through the same thing 🤔💭.
The guilt of not believing is almost unbearable because of early indoctrination.
I fear the bible is lies just to keep the masses in order. Written by man alone. I feel so much happier and fulfilled when not under some "title" and despair at what Religion is doing to us all.
I think I may be on the right road. I am glad that you have found yours.
Peace and Light 🌟
Regardless where you are put IN Life? ....Find God. Don’t leave that relationship, no matter where you are in the “World “ You will always be connected to THE ONE, and find place in the here and now, and on..
While some things they say are true about many Chasids... there's also a lot of misinformation in here... just remember they don't speak for all Chasids and their lifestyles. There are different kinds of Chasidic groups which follow different traditions, and traditions are different even just between families. Chasids in Brooklyn also tend to have a different lifestyle than those who don't live in a place that has so many Chasids.
Chasids usually believe in science, too. I went to a lecture about science and religion by a Chasidic science professor. They are people in the modern world, just like most other people. Don't think that they are like the Amish or not interacting with most of the outside world.
When your mind is blown out of a religious culture you are lucky to be one of the ones who actually experience Free Will.
>Women cover their hair with wigs
Wut?
SuperSpecialChicken In the Orthodox community, the hair of a woman is considered to be one of the most beautiful parts of her body, therefore, when a woman gets married she covers her natural hair. There are some Jewish women who will instead wrap their hair in a tichel.
SuperSpecialChicken They shave their heads.
I don't. In fact I find it beautiful. Don't judge me off of something I never said.
+Jessica Baird your words are those of an extreme moron.
+SuperSpecialChicken makes no sense since people cant tell if its their real hair or not
What is the point of covering your hair with a wig? I don't know that just seems kind of crazy.
You hit the nail right on the head.
So when they out in normal clothing, they go as different people.
Because a woman's hair supposedly has power and is only for her husband to see. I know it's weird, but I think they started to wear wigs because they were tired of being singled out on the street for wearing headscarves.
@@terryjp3050 No weaving rags and stuff in your hair is for decoration but to cover your hair because you don't want anyone to see it with more hair is ridiculous.
@@zarasbazaar Yes for heavens sake cover up anything that has power on a woman. Geez!
The Rabbi's wife wore a very well-fitted dress that accentuated her body. Modest is sth. else
I noticed that, too, Anna. Plus, the color of the dress was not black, grey or brown.
@@Turandot29 Good for her. Be attractive for your husband
Shes sexy
They are Chabad-Lubavitch. Much more flexibility (women go to college, etc.)
@@MM-Iconoclast Ok. But seeing that the husband supported modest clothing I can't find that modest.
So sad that this community thinks this is a loving place. Love is not censored . No respect for individuality. No love for freedom of choice. They dilute themselves with superiority. Fear is their motivator. Love is not grounded in fear!
I'm Mexican and I love and I admire Jewish people,they changed my life.
Thanks
And I do Jesus was king of the Jews
Same.
@@brendadrumm9708 king of the Jews not the Jewish
99% can trace their roots back to the old USSR.
they're ashkenazi
You mean Russia. The USSR was just a blip in time.
@@cbly No such place.
@@cbly AS
8:17...apparently the secular world doesn’t have loving homes or parents, it ONLY exists in their community. 🤦🏻♀️😒🤦🏻♀️😒🤦🏻♀️😒🤦🏻♀️😒🤦🏻♀️😒🤦🏻♀️😒
Yeah! We all don‘t have values! 🙄
Not having your first kiss until 21 is not shameful. Those acts should be kept for your husband/ wife if you choose to.
Now go watch, The Talmud Exposed
BuyA Clue ....utterly demomic, directly from the Synagogue of Satan.
Go watch`!
BuyA Clue or talmud unmasked
dont tell me what to do!
Link please!
My understanding about this community is they live off of government or community welfare and are forbidden to have jobs in any outside community. Apparently, other Jewish people get frustrated with them, especially in Israel where they often refuse military and civil duty. In effect they are like a community of ancient monks, living a monastic life, but having large families. These large groups could only survive in a rural community in the past and today only in a welfare state. Like the Amish, farming was their financial core, but no more.
farming... and diamonds, and B&H Photo.... really poor people.
So happy to get a response. Just curious how you know they don't accept welfare, especially in America? I never said they didn't work, I only said they didn't work outside their community. Their income must come from religious tithes, donations, welfare, or unconventional dealings, as I believe, like monks, they shun the outside world. I would be delighted to learn I am in error as I don't hold any group socially damaging unless they tend to siphon their living off of members of other communities. I do believe they are devout to their religion and otherwise socially invisible to the world, and that isn't a problem -- except I have heard they sadly suffer some abuse due to their isolation.
There is so much misinformation going on here, all coming (interestingly) from people OUTSIDE of these communities. Do yourself a favor and visit Crown Heights, meet some random people in the streets from this community, and speak to them about their jobs, their wives and so on...a do everyone a favor and record it and post it online. Though I don't think it'll help much, because when people look for conflict they'll find it anywhere.
I appreciate your response. Again, I hold them no ill will but am slightly distressed due to their possible incursions into the welfare system. At least they are honorable and don't do drugs and crime like so many other people receiving government handouts. I used to believe the Jewish community supported them until I saw videos that many Israelis don't care much for them.
blood sucker baby not in NYC they have their own pa office, and i personally know a Hasidic man that has all 13 kids on welfare, Medicaid and food stamps own a house, car and has a business. these people believe that having a bunch of kids is a rule given to them by their god. also what neighborhoods in NYC have gun-toting community patrols, they have a direct line to their precincts. and they live off the government tit meaning my taxes pay for their religious ideology
4:50 Sam is so handsom!! Luckely he escaped so more people are able to meet this nice man!
atzo naftaniel Yeah, he’s suuuuuper good looking.
The irony of his winning a Fulbright to study in Germany isn't lost on me. His parents, if they knew, probably fainted.
I wonder how much the intense Torah and Talmud study they did when young contributed to their later secular academic success?
It’s almost like these four learned that they are magical and are going to Hogwarts to learn about the wizarding world.
One thing all cults have in common ...captivity by fear of death. Check.
Not fear of death - Fear of life is more like it
And fear of a god who somehow cares what we say or eat..im a jew but non-religious
Like 80% of all jews...the majority are secular
A few things you must realize.
Firstly, in chassidism there are many different sects and standards... I am a chassidic Jew currently replying to you on UA-cam using my iPhone.
Secondly, and most importantly, the people you are hearing from are people who bitterly left. They exaggerate different points and easily sell it to an ignorant TV host. The reason chassidim try not to mingle with the non Jews is not because they are scared of being killed! Rather it's to prevent assimilation. Any socially normal chassidic Jew knows exactly how to order at a restaurant and what sex is...
Exactly. I see Hasidim Jewish men in the casinos all the time. They may not participate in the outside world but they know plenty about the outside world and hustling.
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Ralph _ don’t think you understood...Candice was saying they keep you in the faith by telling you if you leave us the outside world will kill you. If you watched the video, remember what they said, and understand the requirements of a cult then her comment made complete sense.
A strange thing happened to me. I was attending a beauty pageant for a niece of mine and as i was walking up to the door to the gymnasium, a young woman with 3 kids trailing behind her, and holding a baby as well, came right up behind me, so naturally, and politely, i said to her " i got the door for ya " she stood there for a moment and just stared at me not saying a word, then went on through, so i just chalked it up as just rudeness on her part, she had four kids, i thought she could use the help, and it was an innocent thing. Later, i was in the audience and got that " im being watched " feeling, so i turn around and there were several women, all dressed the exact same way ~ all staring at me intently...with laser beam eyes...I told a coworker about the experience and she told me right away who they were and why they did that, i forgot what sect she mentioned, but it was Christian. They do not want men to address their women in anyway at all, even with polite gestures for whatever reason. It was weird because they all seemed to believe i was the devil incarnate, or just frightened, or both, i just got a stepford wives vibe out of the deal, but i also realized that closed communities means closed minds, and even closed hearts as well, not the kind of Christianity that fulfills Gods great commission, to me it has a very negative drawback on the faith.
"They do not want men to address their women..." makes me shudder no matter what religion. Women are not possessions
James, let me explain it in a proper disrespectful way. If your outcome of your experience is a negative drawback on the faith, you are not just dumb, but completely retarded. There are radical groups in every religion, but Christianity has the lesser of them because of the gentle of our faith and it's flexibility. Watch what you lived and ask to your own idiotic mind if God was in their behaviour. Now think about what you drawback in your life and what you should embrace.
How dare you open a door out of kindness? Haha
They must be told that men or not christians are the devil and not te be trusted. I want to believe that this woman must have thought about your gesture aganin and again and how kind you were and that didn't stroke with what she was told. That she questions her upbringing.
Your story doesn’t make sense…what are fundamentalist Christians doing at a beauty pageant?
It made me very angry when I read that many Heidisidics receive housing benefits and welfare!