I am a passionate amateur photographer and a loyal customer of B&H. I hope David Brommer and all the leaders at B&H realize that my purchases are also expressions of my gratitude for all the wonderful educational videos done in the Event Space and Optic Events and shared with all of us on You Tube. Thank You! (P.S. David, this was a wonderful presentation).
If I was to be nitpicky, Id probably make a comment about some of the pretentiousness. Not everybody can just waltz off to Italy for an art viewing tour :-) However the fact that this hugely valuable and interesting lecture is available for free on UA-cam blows my mind. Massive kudos to this gentleman, b&h and this UA-cam channel for posting this up for everybody. That's great thank you
rule of thirds third horizon studium= general liking punctum= punctuates the image into the viewers shoot more positive and negative space 1:10:50 darker areas lines and anchor points 1:20:56 image complexity
Another great presentation. One thing to note that gets to me, as a medievalist. It is not true that there was anything 'dark' about the middle ages. This is what people of the enlightenment said in order to show why their philosophy was correct and the previous one was not. If anything, Europe in the middle ages had a lot more innovation than it did before and after. It's just it was in fields we usually don't care about. There was also a lot of art during the middle ages, by the 'barbarians' David mentions as well. Another small point: Giotto is from Vicchio, a village near Florence. That's a fair mistake to make, given he worked in Florence.
I think it time we forget those dead works of 2000 hundred years old and talk about the new age! People are more aware this day and age of what makes a good photograph. Every one got a camera this day, and every one have different views as to what a good photograph is. There are no general rules of photography. Every photo have a place! Every photo have a market and buyers. Just check out on stock images and see for your self. Only one of a hundred photographers remembers those rules in the field! We only talk about one - third of our work that happened to complete rules. What about the others? Some times photographs made them selves and then when we study them in our digital dark room and find out they are good we showcase them to the world, but the ones who's rules are out of place we don't talk about them.
Lots of good advice :-) Of particular note was the horizon shouldn't be dead center (either 1/3 or 2/3 is good) and a subject not dead center but just slightly off center is pleasing to the eye (background subject for example).
Watching this for the first time while quarantined in April 2020 and I laughed really hard when he said, “We’re living on the gravy train. I want to introduce you to the concept of a plague.” We’re all very well acquainted with plague now 😂
.. I'm not sure I understand your meaning. If you're being sarcastic, that would be preposterous to me. While covid is bad, it can't hold a candle to the bubonic plague. And quite frankly having to be quarantined is really not that big of a deal in an historical context. Nor is a 1% mortality rate compared to a 33% mortality rate and absolutely no pain treatment whatsoever. So no, pal. We are still not acquainted with a real plague. At least not in any first or second world country with the exception of Italy
Of course, art is subjective and what looks good varies from person to person, but those Studium shots made my eyes hurt, especially the In N Out one. You gotta have huge balls to present your own photographs as examples of composition along with fucking Henri Cartier Bresson.
It's funny to me that the guys who dress in black and talk artsy always take worse pictures than the less pretentious photographers. Just look around at other B&H videos and you'll see.
As with every free instructional video B&H posts, the comment section is nothing but offended photographers, photographers who click on a two hour video and want it to short and sweet, photographers who've already mastered photography, and then of course the most subjectively critical of all the judgmental photographers. Amazing.
Tell Hiroshi Sugimoto to keep the horizon out of center. 40 minuets in, and this dude is still talking rule of thirds. That’s a 5 minute conversation at most.
I love your point about Sugimoto and the horizon. I think it's time photographers stop calling these "rules" rules. I'm not sure what would be a good replacement word, however...patterns? The pattern of thirds? Or maybe just composition, as in the Composition of Thirds. Something neutral.
@@riderinthesky2265 Nowhere did I say I was great. All I'm saying is that calling it a "rule" is unnecessary, because the label makes it seem like every good composition always has to follow that, which isn't the case. It should be called "composition of thirds" or something neutral like that, which implies to students a little more freedom to explore and not follow that composition when they feel it's not what they're going for, etc. And why am I still watching these lectures? Because one never stops learning, and is always a student, of course! :) That's what I try to be, trying to learn from others' experiences, etc. That doesn't mean a student has to absolutely agree with everything the lecturer says, though, right? :)
I just ordered a camera and some other supplies from B&H. And I appreciate these videos. But...I see no reason to be disrespectful by saying such things as "the mythology of Christianity."
I am a passionate amateur photographer and a loyal customer of B&H. I hope David Brommer and all the leaders at B&H realize that my purchases are also expressions of my gratitude for all the wonderful educational videos done in the Event Space and Optic Events and shared with all of us on You Tube. Thank You! (P.S. David, this was a wonderful presentation).
HA HA HA....They enjoy the money, BUB
If I was to be nitpicky, Id probably make a comment about some of the pretentiousness. Not everybody can just waltz off to Italy for an art viewing tour :-)
However the fact that this hugely valuable and interesting lecture is available for free on UA-cam blows my mind. Massive kudos to this gentleman, b&h and this UA-cam channel for posting this up for everybody. That's great thank you
Have watched several times. Most enjoy you discussing the compositional elements of the Masters. Thank you.
rule of thirds
third horizon
studium= general liking
punctum= punctuates the image into the viewers
shoot more
positive and negative space
1:10:50 darker areas
lines and anchor points
1:20:56 image complexity
Another great presentation. One thing to note that gets to me, as a medievalist. It is not true that there was anything 'dark' about the middle ages. This is what people of the enlightenment said in order to show why their philosophy was correct and the previous one was not. If anything, Europe in the middle ages had a lot more innovation than it did before and after. It's just it was in fields we usually don't care about. There was also a lot of art during the middle ages, by the 'barbarians' David mentions as well.
Another small point: Giotto is from Vicchio, a village near Florence. That's a fair mistake to make, given he worked in Florence.
Today we'll be talking about photographic composition. Billions of years ago, the universe was created in an event called the big bang....
Great information...going back to the basics! Thanks
I think it time we forget those dead works of 2000 hundred years old and talk about the new age! People are more aware this day and age of what makes a good photograph. Every one got a camera this day, and every one have different views as to what a good photograph is. There are no general rules of photography. Every photo have a place! Every photo have a market and buyers. Just check out on stock images and see for your self.
Only one of a hundred photographers remembers those rules in the field! We only talk about one - third of our work that happened to complete rules.
What about the others? Some times photographs made them selves and then when we study them in our digital dark room and find out they are good we showcase them to the world, but the ones who's rules are out of place we don't talk about them.
What’s your point again?
At 56:10, the photo "Children on a Spiral Staircase" is not from HSB but is from martine Franck, his second wife.
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lots of great tips, thank you!
Great stuff, I learned a lot! Thank you!
Lots of good advice :-) Of particular note was the horizon shouldn't be dead center (either 1/3 or 2/3 is good) and a subject not dead center but just slightly off center is pleasing to the eye (background subject for example).
great video, taught me so much beyond just photography.
That Yosemite pic looks a lot like it's CG generated. You can actually see pixelation in the mountains' texture.
Are you sure that is a photo?
Whats the difference between this and the old version of his speech?
This one is newer.
"Hi my name is David, and I have a problem with color"
Watching this for the first time while quarantined in April 2020 and I laughed really hard when he said, “We’re living on the gravy train. I want to introduce you to the concept of a plague.” We’re all very well acquainted with plague now 😂
.. I'm not sure I understand your meaning. If you're being sarcastic, that would be preposterous to me. While covid is bad, it can't hold a candle to the bubonic plague. And quite frankly having to be quarantined is really not that big of a deal in an historical context. Nor is a 1% mortality rate compared to a 33% mortality rate and absolutely no pain treatment whatsoever. So no, pal. We are still not acquainted with a real plague. At least not in any first or second world country with the exception of Italy
Some great teachings in this video but I really don't get the whole lens baby stuff? They looked 'meh' to me.
thanks for the video, these help a lot!
Interesting when he analyze the composition of the great masters, but when he review his own work mmmm... Well...
Of course, art is subjective and what looks good varies from person to person, but those Studium shots made my eyes hurt, especially the In N Out one. You gotta have huge balls to present your own photographs as examples of composition along with fucking Henri Cartier Bresson.
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A very Euro-centric view of art history.
Looks like hurt american ego... :-D
No I think he's referring to the lack of Asian or African or North & South American art history etc. in the overall account of art history
So?
Good stuff 👍
It's funny to me that the guys who dress in black and talk artsy always take worse pictures than the less pretentious photographers. Just look around at other B&H videos and you'll see.
True that! =)
As with every free instructional video B&H posts, the comment section is nothing but offended photographers, photographers who click on a two hour video and want it to short and sweet, photographers who've already mastered photography, and then of course the most subjectively critical of all the judgmental photographers. Amazing.
So interesting thank you
This video has already been uploaded five years ago.
Thanks much!!
Tell Hiroshi Sugimoto to keep the horizon out of center. 40 minuets in, and this dude is still talking rule of thirds. That’s a 5 minute conversation at most.
I love your point about Sugimoto and the horizon. I think it's time photographers stop calling these "rules" rules. I'm not sure what would be a good replacement word, however...patterns? The pattern of thirds? Or maybe just composition, as in the Composition of Thirds. Something neutral.
So why are you still watching this if you're so great???? Pls post links to your lectures great master.
@@CPLTarun So why are you still watching this if you're so great???? Pls post links to your lectures great master.
@@riderinthesky2265 Nowhere did I say I was great. All I'm saying is that calling it a "rule" is unnecessary, because the label makes it seem like every good composition always has to follow that, which isn't the case. It should be called "composition of thirds" or something neutral like that, which implies to students a little more freedom to explore and not follow that composition when they feel it's not what they're going for, etc.
And why am I still watching these lectures? Because one never stops learning, and is always a student, of course! :)
That's what I try to be, trying to learn from others' experiences, etc. That doesn't mean a student has to absolutely agree with everything the lecturer says, though, right? :)
@@CPLTarun you're right, dude
Your history lesson is not correct, I'm not trying to be mean. But some of the history in this video is very inaccurate.
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Not for me ..get to the point
I love the B and H videos but this is gibberish.
I just ordered a camera and some other supplies from B&H. And I appreciate these videos. But...I see no reason to be disrespectful by saying such things as "the mythology of Christianity."
I knew that would piss a Christian off lol
And no, you're not good with the cloning tool. Don't flatter yourself.