War Thunder DEV - AAM-3 IR MISSILE IS HERE! HOW GOOD is it? BETTER THAN THE AIM-9M?

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  • Опубліковано 7 гру 2023
  • Testing a little bit of the AAM-3 missile, the new top tier missile of the Japanese F-15!
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  • @geeno_ms5233
    @geeno_ms5233 5 місяців тому +82

    Mat the AAM-3 is from (1991), the Python-4 (1994) the AAM-3 and the Python-4 are contemporaneous and both shares a similar seeker technology (IR/UV) Like the stinger seeker have soo... that explains why the AAM-3 is very hard to flare even more hard than the R-73, 9M and Magic-2.

    • @molstad182
      @molstad182 5 місяців тому +7

      so what youre saying is remove aim 7 and 9 for barak II and give it python 4

    • @vizender
      @vizender 5 місяців тому +13

      @@molstad182python 4 kinetic energy and maneuverability is far, far better than the AAM3, so no, please not now…

    • @molstad182
      @molstad182 5 місяців тому +1

      @@vizender i was only half serious lol

    • @vizender
      @vizender 5 місяців тому +8

      @@molstad182 thank god. I’m starting to lose my sanity going over US vehicles forums and video. Between the SepV2 and the American f15 which isn’t that great (compared to the mirage and su), US mains are basically asking for Aim9X and more modern APFSDS, which, against Russia, fair enough, but for other nations, would be a disaster

    • @geeno_ms5233
      @geeno_ms5233 5 місяців тому

      @@molstad182 yes am saying that is the Barak II is suposed to have the Python-4 not the sparrow or 9M.

  • @danstrous1107
    @danstrous1107 5 місяців тому +13

    Instead of spamming flares the best way is probably going to be to just drop some flares and then change direction, if the IRCCM works the same way as on the 9M that should be enough to avoid the AAM-3

    • @jacobbateson8215
      @jacobbateson8215 5 місяців тому +7

      The IRCCM isn't like the 9M its dual channel, so when it turns off its primary seeker it activates a secondary visual seeker. It can continue an accurate track after being flared as a result

  • @kerotomas1
    @kerotomas1 5 місяців тому +56

    The F4EJ Kai used the AAM-3 as well so time to add it... Like the Kurnass having the Python 3

    • @soamazing367
      @soamazing367 5 місяців тому +8

      python 3 is not equal and the kurnass has no aim7s. Only fair if the ej kai goes to 12.0 and you dont want that. Or add python-4s

    • @foundedcupid5286
      @foundedcupid5286 5 місяців тому

      f4ej kai is already 11.7 why not 12.0@@soamazing367

    • @Sparrowthebird
      @Sparrowthebird 5 місяців тому

      if were going off this give the F-15A its AIM-120A

    • @kerotomas1
      @kerotomas1 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Sparrowthebird that's a stupid comparison because none of the Fox-3 missiles are in the game now if only the F-15A didn't have it then sure it would be a valid point

    • @Pioneer_DE
      @Pioneer_DE 5 місяців тому

      Aim 54 is a Fox 3 missle no?@@kerotomas1

  • @andyeulu828
    @andyeulu828 5 місяців тому +8

    The EJ Kai Phantom used in real life too

  • @ymroo8299
    @ymroo8299 5 місяців тому

    It is said to have improved range and a mach 3-3.5 speed but the speed isn't reflected ingame, I wish we had a way to test its range on the dev

  • @i_nameless_i-jgsdf
    @i_nameless_i-jgsdf 5 місяців тому +16

    Mitsubishi AAM-3, First Japan's domestically design AA missile in the game.
    (Makes me wondering why they never added the AAM-1 and AAM-2).

    • @alighera6546
      @alighera6546 5 місяців тому +9

      One was useless and the other was an absolute disaster

    • @fireraid2336
      @fireraid2336 5 місяців тому +7

      ​@alighera6546 wow what a completely wrong sentence
      AAM-1 was equal or slightly better then AIM-9B but due to cost and introduction of AIM-9E AAM-1 was discontinued.
      AAM-2 was a prototype missile based on the AIM-4 BUT upgraded through the roof having a larger warhead, better range, limited all aspect, proximity fuse. The only reason AAM-2 did not make it to production status was due to costs.

    • @alighera6546
      @alighera6546 5 місяців тому

      @@fireraid2336 so you have just proved my point...

    • @ymroo8299
      @ymroo8299 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@alighera6546No he did not, there wasnt a disaster you are talking about as the prototype AAM2 has limited all aspects which could help the base F4 EJ, while the latter would help the F86-f40 with an improvement

  • @commitselfdeletus9070
    @commitselfdeletus9070 5 місяців тому +1

    As it stands in its config file the aam3 is using the same irccm as the 9M, even using the same amount of time for how long the seeker is off (0.4 seconds)

    • @beto9334
      @beto9334 5 місяців тому

      That's ba tho the IRCCM of the aam3 is better than the one used in the 9M. The aam3 flare resistance should be similar to that of a stinger, which we know that the stinger completely ignores flares even from front aspectm

    • @ymroo8299
      @ymroo8299 5 місяців тому

      ​@@beto9334not completely because the stinger wont lock something pre flaring. thats why the only way you can defeat it is to pre flare and jam the wez

    • @beto9334
      @beto9334 5 місяців тому

      Yea thats what radar slaving is for

  • @victorrenerio7050
    @victorrenerio7050 5 місяців тому

    drop flares first, then change direction

  • @gangstercheesefries1112
    @gangstercheesefries1112 3 місяці тому

    This is the only missile in all my years of olaying warthunder that is seemingly fucking magnetized to friendly aircraft and its fucking frustrating ive never ever had this issue with the 9m 9l or anything below that

  • @dexterneo.a.5018
    @dexterneo.a.5018 5 місяців тому

    yo what is asmokeless missle

  • @mesobean
    @mesobean 5 місяців тому +6

    Looks like the wing rip issues have been fixed, hopefully the F-15 gets TWS

    • @pablovillalba5214
      @pablovillalba5214 5 місяців тому +1

      It needs tws, in sims is olmost obligatory to play it without problems and a f15 without tws is like wtf is this.

    • @HighRiskV
      @HighRiskV 5 місяців тому +4

      I know the C has it, but does the early F-15A have TWS irl?

    • @xXManhattanProjectXx
      @xXManhattanProjectXx 5 місяців тому

      ​@@HighRiskV once they got their upgrades, yeah. So technically, since we got the flares, it should.

  • @JoshX9706
    @JoshX9706 5 місяців тому

    In game, it doesnt actually turn 40gs

  • @_Gravy__
    @_Gravy__ 5 місяців тому +12

    I want to know which variant of the aim-9M we have and if we'll get better versions in the future because the f-16C block 50 with an early aim 9M is just kinda weird

    • @mlgrocket
      @mlgrocket 5 місяців тому +19

      we have the earliest version (literally a 9L with irccm), and let's be honest, won't be getting a better version anytime soon cause america isn't allowed to have the better versions of their own equipment

    • @jonathanoriley8260
      @jonathanoriley8260 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@mlgrocket The AIM-9L in-game isn't even accurate to begin with. It should have about a 35 G limit, not 30 G, with some sources saying up to even 40 G.

    • @lucinator8582
      @lucinator8582 5 місяців тому

      and despite the 9L having “inaccurate pull” its still an amazing missile that will do everything you want it to if you use it well

    • @jonathanoriley8260
      @jonathanoriley8260 5 місяців тому

      @@lucinator8582 No, it _used_ to be an amazing missile. Now, after they nerfed it into oblivion, it has the flare resistance of an R-60 (aka, none at all). It even tracks other missiles over the afterburning jets of aircraft, much like the R-60.

    • @lucinator8582
      @lucinator8582 5 місяців тому +4

      @@jonathanoriley8260 ????? Have you.. actually used it? when you get within 1.5km the aim-9L becomes almost unflareable

  • @kanivete8584
    @kanivete8584 5 місяців тому +1

    Is this AAM 3 better than the R73?

    • @pieterdeliho1492
      @pieterdeliho1492 5 місяців тому

      Both balanced. I don't think it's better though

  • @blackbite6178
    @blackbite6178 5 місяців тому

    I just want missiles to be able to lock onto ground targets like in real life.

    • @ferdinane.w4753
      @ferdinane.w4753 5 місяців тому

      you mean like gta online ? XD

    • @PinguThePenguino
      @PinguThePenguino 4 місяці тому

      ​​@@ferdinane.w4753 It's possible to lock Sidewinders on a ground target, at least the Aim-9X can. There was even a variant of Sidewinder named AGM-87 Focus made for attacking lightly armored vehicles and it was used in Vietnam

  • @Ang41256
    @Ang41256 5 місяців тому

    get him to flar then tren

  • @Phoenixmethode
    @Phoenixmethode 2 місяці тому

    Well good video and all, but if your friend doesn't know how to dodge IRCCM properly. Especially the US IRCCM is very easy to dodge.. i think you said so aswell at like 2:55. The Magics or the R-73s do have better IRCCM technology

  • @lasagnaspecial8125
    @lasagnaspecial8125 5 місяців тому +2

    i think gaijin should add a later variant of the AIM-9M where it can pull 40g's but maybe make it less potent and a slower activation time to make it balanced for the F-15A

    • @jonaskupfer5491
      @jonaskupfer5491 5 місяців тому +1

      Aim 9m could never pull 40gs what are you talking about…
      Wait for aim 9x in the future

    • @lasagnaspecial8125
      @lasagnaspecial8125 5 місяців тому

      @@jonaskupfer5491 I saw somewhere but I must be wrong

    • @ymroo8299
      @ymroo8299 5 місяців тому

      ​@@lasagnaspecial8125No you're fine, they actually have the stat of Aim9L to have 35g-40gs irl I think before it was also 35g on forum discussion, its just that all missiles ingame are not that accurate to real life(Its a game well) and most G load on stat card are raw or maintained Gs since some missiles cannot pull that hard at launch and reach maximum maneuverability midflight - this is why ground launch or heli launched AAM look maneuverable when in their midway course to the target ingame - plus we might never see a day them ever accurately model an AAM that isnt russian 😂 how many changes had the aim9L have I cannot count

  • @kirschbaum5835
    @kirschbaum5835 5 місяців тому

    Bro the AAM-3 is just a copy paste aim9M placeholder until they model it, so you just tested an aim9M.

  • @jch90z
    @jch90z 5 місяців тому +2

    Aim120 r77? When

    • @itslvted
      @itslvted 5 місяців тому +1

      2024 first 1-2 updates russian devs said

    • @thelagbros7675
      @thelagbros7675 5 місяців тому +1

      @@itslvted yeah gotta keep that 27ER bias a bit longer to ensure their win rates stay over 70% after this update drops

    • @s1amp812
      @s1amp812 5 місяців тому

      @@thelagbros7675 have you tried flying low?

    • @hdehilter9016
      @hdehilter9016 5 місяців тому

      @@thelagbros7675 bro thinks that flying at 20km alt is still good at top tier

    • @thelagbros7675
      @thelagbros7675 5 місяців тому

      @@hdehilter9016 ​ love how you guys just assume that i don't. i do, but it doesnt change the fact that R27ER is still bias. also doesn't help that dogfights don't happen in air rb, there's always a second or a third that pops in and fucks it all up

  • @wilsonlee4658
    @wilsonlee4658 5 місяців тому +1

    honestly tho from your previous videos even though what's shown here is very strong, the prev video was most of the time misses lol

  • @BOB-xo1wb
    @BOB-xo1wb 5 місяців тому +2

    bro you posted 2 videos in 1 hour

  • @AlaskanThundeRx
    @AlaskanThundeRx 5 місяців тому +1

    Is he using mixed or flares?

    • @JoshX9706
      @JoshX9706 5 місяців тому

      Flare priority

    • @doughnut3508
      @doughnut3508 5 місяців тому

      Hes using flares reinforced uou can tell by each time he flares 4 flares come out

  • @mokaso
    @mokaso 5 місяців тому +4

    Dude made a 7 minute video explaining how the F-15A needs a better missile. Love seeing the F-15A DOA.

  • @youuuus8811
    @youuuus8811 5 місяців тому

    nice missile

  • @superliogaming
    @superliogaming 5 місяців тому +2

    Someone had caps lock on lol

    • @RockSeller01
      @RockSeller01 5 місяців тому

      Both ground nvg and air within visual range radar are binded to caps. I'm always typing in game like I am yelling

    • @superliogaming
      @superliogaming 5 місяців тому

      @@RockSeller01 You can change keybinds, ya know?

    • @RockSeller01
      @RockSeller01 5 місяців тому

      @superliogaming yeah I know. I specifically chose those because caps lock is convenient

    • @SoggyKatnip
      @SoggyKatnip 5 місяців тому

      ​@@RockSeller01same lol, I use caps for rockets and missile warm up

  • @oha5929
    @oha5929 5 місяців тому

    AAM-3 was developed by Mitsubishi to replace the AIM-9L, so I think it will have the same specifications as the AIM-9M. Actually both AIM-9L and AIM-9M have G limit of 45G but Gaijin has nerfed it to 30G

    • @Jonathan-bu7iv
      @Jonathan-bu7iv 5 місяців тому

      Where is this info from? I can only find this CTTO Harrier Tactics Manual 2nd Edition, which states that it can do 32Gs or 45 in a combined plane? I'm guessing when making corrections in two planes simultaniously.
      Would be very nice to curb the russian bias and get nice US missiles for once, but oh well.

    • @syoujiwakatake670
      @syoujiwakatake670 5 місяців тому

      Prejudice. Check out AAM-3.

  • @Skim_beeble7125
    @Skim_beeble7125 5 місяців тому +2

    And I’d like a aim9x on my p-51 please let’s just break the game more and more full send into the aids combat gameplay

    • @kwilliams3161
      @kwilliams3161 5 місяців тому +1

      It’s not breaking the game if the missiles perform how it does irl.get good .

    • @doughnut3508
      @doughnut3508 5 місяців тому +1

      Bro wants to nerf Japan but yet its probably the most lacking nation in the game. Nonexistent ground, air, and helis.

    • @doughnut3508
      @doughnut3508 5 місяців тому

      1 semi-functional top tier aircraft, 2 semi functional top tier mbts, 1 functional AA, 1 semi functional Heli, what does bro want. Even italy and france have more than Japan

  • @camaradeKC
    @camaradeKC 5 місяців тому

    so this thing is also smokeless ? nice sim battle are even more unplayable now tyu gaijin add the fcking MAWS on aircraft that have it ffs i cant

  • @mlgrocket
    @mlgrocket 5 місяців тому +8

    40g+ irccm, meanwhile america stuck with 30g missiles. yet somehow the 9M will continue to be called the most overpowered missile in the game, go figure
    like, how is it fair that russia gets their best IR missile stock, but no other nation can?

    • @thelethalpredator672
      @thelethalpredator672 5 місяців тому

      Exactly! Hopefully when the aim120 comes, it goes on the f16, 15, maybe 14, and later swedish jets like gripen, maybe viggen. And UK

    • @-..----.--.-...
      @-..----.--.-... 5 місяців тому +6

      Cope

    • @WeebLord69
      @WeebLord69 5 місяців тому +8

      R-73 gets 1 tap flared 7/10 times , same doesn't happen to 9M

    • @kipwings
      @kipwings 5 місяців тому +7

      R73 is so easy to flare. It’s honestly comical.

    • @HighRiskV
      @HighRiskV 5 місяців тому +1

      @@kipwings depends on the distance, if it's close in any aspect that's not an head on it's basically impossible to flare, in a dogfight for example

  • @doughnut3508
    @doughnut3508 5 місяців тому

    I feel like Japan needs the AAM-3 to be the best missile Japan hasnt really had anything good and its lacking in ground air and helis. I feel like keeping the AAM-3 how it is right now is perfect but reduce the IRCCM a bit so it actually seems like its possible to avoid the missile in closer ranges. Range of a Aim-9m and IRCCM of a R-73 and Aim-9m combined thats legit what the missile feels like

    • @typicalspace_yt6141
      @typicalspace_yt6141 5 місяців тому +1

      Japan don’t deserve to always get the best American variants of stuff when America is the one that made them swear

    • @typicalspace_yt6141
      @typicalspace_yt6141 5 місяців тому +1

      Not even America gets what Japan gets 💀

  • @nykytadamore8438
    @nykytadamore8438 5 місяців тому

    FIRST VIEW AND COMMENT

  • @s1amp812
    @s1amp812 5 місяців тому

    another op missile for nato lol

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 5 місяців тому +1

      You say that like Russia doesn't have the R-73 and R-27ER.

    • @s1amp812
      @s1amp812 5 місяців тому

      @@fate3071 r-73 is shittiest top tier missile (no afterburner and flare = 80% dodge chance) and to country r-27er you need just to stay low lol)

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 5 місяців тому

      @s1amp812 the R-73 pulls harder and is harder to Flare than the Python 3, and the R-27ER is faster and has longer range than every other nato missile except the pheonix

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 5 місяців тому

      @s1amp812 the R-73 pulls harder and is harder to Flare than the Python 3, and the R-27ER is faster and has longer range than every other nato missile except the pheonix

    • @s1amp812
      @s1amp812 5 місяців тому

      @@fate3071 and theres 0 chance of dodging AIM9M-like missiles in rear aspect at slow speed unlike r73

  • @bradenjefferies7714
    @bradenjefferies7714 5 місяців тому

    makes me mad u put japan flag rec circle onto an american made jet....

    • @1n4L1
      @1n4L1 5 місяців тому +1

      But f15j is made by Mitsubishi

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 5 місяців тому +1

      It's literally a plane operated by Japan, what do you want? Every country that buys an exported plane to keep the original markings?