Has China Won? Book Chat with Asia Scholar and Author Kishore Mahbubani

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  • Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
  • With Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s recent speech at the Nixon Library, the U.S. has unequivocally declared a new Cold War in its dealings with China and further drawn lines in the emerging geopolitical contest. But is this conflict avoidable? Join us for a conversation with Kishore Mahbubani, whose new book Has China Won?, analyses how the two powers arrived at this point. He will share the biggest strategic mistakes Beijing and Washington have each made in their recent dealings and discuss what has been won and lost - and what’s at stake.

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  • @jkjkjk100
    @jkjkjk100 4 роки тому +28

    Hong Konger need to listen to Singapore more often. Similar background, size, history and demographics. No freedom of press yet more successful, richer, cleaner, have better housing, public transport, airline, airport than HK. Long live Lee Kuan Yew and thanks for mentoring so many great thinker like Sir Mahbubani.

    • @DipakBose-bq1vv
      @DipakBose-bq1vv 4 роки тому

      Money is everything. That is your message.

    • @jkjkjk100
      @jkjkjk100 4 роки тому +2

      Dipak Basu no but Economic prosperity bring up living standard. Look at the problems in US. Inequality is front and foremost. Stagnating wages, inability to afford healthcare, declining life expectancy, or HK complaining about unaffordable housing. Let’s nit be naive, with no economic prosperity it’s difficult to live freely.

    • @DipakBose-bq1vv
      @DipakBose-bq1vv 3 роки тому

      Man does not live on bread alone.

    • @jkjkjk100
      @jkjkjk100 3 роки тому

      Dipak Basu yes you’re right. Singaporean live in a house and decent space, which hong kong doesn’t have. Money is everything in capitalist society like HK. Please.

    • @htlow3598
      @htlow3598 3 роки тому

      @Jkjkjk, I was not aware Kishore has been knighted? In any case, only British citizen can be knighted; there are no non British receiving a knighthood as far as I am aware.

  • @JamesChan1983
    @JamesChan1983 4 роки тому +8

    Dr. Mahbubani has many insightful points. This is a worthwhile video to watch.

  • @royk7712
    @royk7712 4 роки тому +32

    Can you please list the countries China invaded? None.
    American intervention since WWII :
    1949-1960s China
    1949-1953 Albania
    1950s East Germany
    1953 Iran
    1954 Guatemala
    1950s Costa Rica
    1956-7 Syria
    1957 Egypt
    1957-8 Indonesia
    1953-64 British Guiana
    1963 Iraq
    1945-73 North Vietnam
    1955-70 Cambodia
    1958 Laos
    1959 Cuba
    1960 Ecuador, Congo
    1964 Bolivia
    1965 France
    1962-64 Brazil
    1963 Dominican Republic
    1965 Indonesia
    1966 Ghana
    1964-73 Chile
    1967 Greece
    1970-71 Costa Rica
    1971 Bolivia
    1973-75 Australia
    1975 Angola
    1974-76 Portugal
    1976-80 Jamaica
    1979-81 Seychelles
    1981-82 Chad
    1983 Grenada
    1982-84 Yemen, Suriname
    1987 Fiji
    1980s Libya
    1981-90 Nicaragua
    1989 Panama
    1990 Bulgaria
    1991 Albania, Iraq
    1980s Afghanistan
    1993 Somalia
    1999-2000 Yugoslavia
    2000 Ecuador
    2001 Afghanistan
    2002 Venezuela
    2003 Iraq
    2004 Haiti
    2007 Somalia
    2009 Honduras
    2011 Libya
    2012 Syria
    2014 Ukraine
    if you want to intervene china, you better prepare your silo and nuke

    • @allowedme
      @allowedme 3 роки тому +1

      A list is extremely short comparing to the list committed by the US.

    • @fsteh787
      @fsteh787 3 роки тому

      @darkprince Then you must an idiot to have said so, Tibet is art of China, Vietnamese wars and the rest, kindly read from James Bradley’s Chinese mirage to understand why China went into wars. For India, since 1975, no single shot was fired by both countries until recently. And the worst part is you can’t even provide Years when the country was invaded and etc. Go back and read your history by US historians before uttering. For the past 20 years no countries were invaded by China, but the last year before Obama left the office, he instructed to dropped 26000 bombs on Syria. Go check the fact, don’t be hypocritical. How many innocent citizens of the middle eastern countries have died owing to America’s illegal aggression?

    • @fsteh787
      @fsteh787 3 роки тому +1

      @Adam LB You are real issue to this issue when you don’t have idea what happens to SCS. US isn’t part of SCS but US isnt having a share or isn’t proximate in SCS, that’s hypocritical. malaysia, Vietnam, Philippines reclaimed islands in SCS, and many years later China followed, when US objected, President Xi proposed an offer to Obama to demilitarize SCS, yet Obama didn’t take the offer but instead sent the military troops to SCS, and so China then followed by sending the troops. Anything wrong?

    • @hjw2405
      @hjw2405 3 роки тому +1

      @darkprince you must be practising Falun Gong?

    • @liweieva
      @liweieva 3 роки тому

      @@hjw2405 hahahahahaha the best reply!! hahaha make me laugh so hard!

  • @paulmaking1980
    @paulmaking1980 4 роки тому +42

    China will win this geopolitical contest, America started this contest, not China, China has a meritocratic political system, and due to nature of it's political system, China is able to think & plan strategically for the long term, that gives China a big advantage over America's political system, where politicians that wins a presidential election, immediately think on how to win a 2nd term in office, because of that, it doesn't allow for long term planning, but rather short term thinking & policies, and also the US political system has become a plutocracy, where the rich & big business hold sway in the US Congress to detriment of the ordinary Americans, China is set to overtake the US as the no1 economy in the world within 10 years, so with these factors, China will win this geopolitical contest for sure

    • @acewynn8454
      @acewynn8454 4 роки тому +1

      China will not be recognizable 5 years from now and not even cause of American intentions but lack of interest in protecting global shipping for free! Global shipping they cannot protect and they import 85% of oil that means if wanted not only America but even japan could subdue China without breaking a sweat within 6 weeks America is now energy independent and losing interest in the Middle East who’s gonna keep Saudi Arabia an Iran from fighting that’s not free Americans hold all the cards no matter what goes on here domestically

    • @bluesea421
      @bluesea421 4 роки тому +2

      Ace Wynn - Ccp has wasted all of China’s money on useless face saving propaganda, everything is about their face, that’s all.
      Spent on 50 cents army and wumao propagandists online, total waste of money, nothing comes out of it.
      Also wasting money on stupid things just for showing off and save face, giving money in billions to Maduro and African countries, for nothing, total total waste.
      The chinese communist party, has infiltrated into Democratic Party, feminists and MSM, it uses antifa/BLM to burn down cities and stir up chaos to weaken USA so that Biden and Kamala (these are the useful idiots of our time) can win and bring down USA.
      Once wolf warriors are now sheep pretending to be weak and using the victim card, manipulating others, like teenage girls.

    • @acewynn8454
      @acewynn8454 4 роки тому

      Blue Sea a lotve truth but Biden and Harris I’m confident if they win while it may be in a nicer tone the facts still remain not only for China but the world look at German news DW and how worried they are about the future I don’t want Biden and Harris cause I love my 2nd amendment and Harris is too close to Silicon Valley Amazon to me is the biggest threat to the American dream anyways

    • @user-hw2vk3ut1f
      @user-hw2vk3ut1f 4 роки тому

      Bule Sea Exactly. Just do nothing and wait. We will just collapse like a miracle.

    • @Neuvari
      @Neuvari 3 роки тому +1

      @@bluesea421 haha please, let trump win, i will be very happy for you people, this is for the best, MORE TRUMP PLEASE

  • @raycomeau6866
    @raycomeau6866 3 роки тому +3

    Good presentation by a knowledgable speaker, who had to exercise his diplomacy. Too bad the moderator is too ignorant of China.

  • @scyl3861
    @scyl3861 3 роки тому +7

    I have a question: What does US have to do with SOUTH CHINA SEA?

    • @hjw2405
      @hjw2405 3 роки тому +1

      US thought it owns the whole earth.

    • @privateconfidential7056
      @privateconfidential7056 3 роки тому

      Souh East Asia countries know China have a huge market of purchasing power but on the other hand China have the strongest military compare to South East Asia countries , China to bully them is very easy. SEA countries wants USA to be there so that China bully them is limited around when USA is here . that is why no South Ease Asia countries complaint when USA navy sail around SCS only China complaint loudly.

  • @cam35mm
    @cam35mm 4 роки тому +13

    Wait a second. Wasn't the pivot to the pacific that happen first before the island build up? LOL

  • @user-om1gm6dy6t
    @user-om1gm6dy6t 4 роки тому +5

    Kishore Mahbubani’s wise quote: “American plutocracy vs Chinese meritocracy”. Then everything that US is provoking and accusing China without evidence becomes clear

  • @johnlay3040
    @johnlay3040 Рік тому

    When this book was written, nobody in the world would have guessed that the US would resort itself to a military solution to keep its No.1 position. I think Kishore might need to write an Appendix to his book in the next edition. People will be very interested to read his scenario on this.

  • @AyY846
    @AyY846 3 роки тому +1

    I heard a lot of talks from KM. I’m constantly impressed by his knowledge and insights. In this talk, I’m particularly impressed by his pragmatic view on the HK matters and Beijing’s trade off between the wills of 1.4bn of ppl and 7m in HK.

  • @hikarikun7855
    @hikarikun7855 3 роки тому

    Kishore , like your wisdom.

  • @Kuasarakyat2
    @Kuasarakyat2 3 роки тому +1

    China: we built modern Shopping Complex
    US: we built Military Industrial Complex

  • @leonluo4061
    @leonluo4061 4 роки тому +24

    The Hong Kong people are Chinese. Culture is Chinese culture. What is this lady asking. Shows her ignorance.

    • @Shambu598
      @Shambu598 4 роки тому +1

      Both Hong Kong & Taiwan are Chinese people, but they have escaped the trap of the CCP, lets help them to stay that way, and expose the evil the CCP is

    • @XHSLS
      @XHSLS 4 роки тому

      Singapore has 90% Chinese. So?

    • @leonluo4061
      @leonluo4061 4 роки тому +4

      @@XHSLS no matter where the Chinese live around the world, they will keep their Chinese culture from 9ne generation to the next.

    • @samliew6610
      @samliew6610 4 роки тому

      Very ignorant

    • @kewang5208
      @kewang5208 4 роки тому +1

      @@XHSLS so it means Chinese culture is an integral element in the social fabric of Singapore? Obvious, no?

  • @greatasia606
    @greatasia606 3 роки тому +1

    Mr Kishore is a Singaporean. And Singapore is still being ruled by anglophiles, so he has to use some words of the West on China. He has to choose his words carefully in Singapore, that is how you find space to survive in Singapore.

  • @Mr.Lin2049
    @Mr.Lin2049 4 роки тому +4

    Brilliant talk, as always !

  • @ys29229
    @ys29229 3 роки тому +1

    The interviewer was shocked, stunned and speechless to hear China will seek reparations from ex-colonist in 2042 on the occasion 200th anniversary of HK cessation.

  • @flyerzy
    @flyerzy 4 роки тому +10

    no one knows when and where the covid started.

    • @spiritedtruth3490
      @spiritedtruth3490 3 роки тому

      Hahahahaha..another running dog of the CCP!

    • @dunzhen
      @dunzhen 3 роки тому

      facts. spanish flu started in America, we blame spain. H1N1(swine flu) as well, but the world is all "god bless". You can see how important soft power and having a vice grip on world narratives are so beneficial for world image. If America had a poor Public Relations image they'd be hated everywhere

  • @choegyal100
    @choegyal100 4 роки тому +6

    Nelson Mandela said that "One of the mistake which polictal analysts make is to think that Their enemies should be Our enemies".

    • @dietrichvonbern
      @dietrichvonbern 4 роки тому

      But China treats everyone as an enemy.

    • @choegyal100
      @choegyal100 4 роки тому

      Waytofall One of the oldest geopolitics logic is enemy of enemy is my friend, Enemy of humanity is global warming, pandemic, poverty and terrorism. If we want our planet save and prosperity then we should work together as oneness of humanity. We should look all angles and listen every 192 nations narrative.

    • @bluesea421
      @bluesea421 4 роки тому

      Waytofall - that is a suicidal dumb move

  • @richardmayger2716
    @richardmayger2716 3 роки тому +1

    Any nation entrying in a military alliance with the USA would be well to look at Georgia to see what it is worth.

  • @harisanagaram4131
    @harisanagaram4131 3 роки тому +2

    Good analysis. In my opinion, China operates more like a corporation/business house focusing on growth, increasing market share and prosperity. China is also very strategic and has long-term plans in place and is executing them flawlessly. Chinese leaders are open to suggestions and are willing to listen and rectify their mistakes. It would immensely help China if they adhere to international trade agreements and patent laws, not ignore human development and put a strong emphasis on ethics. China will work with any one and any country as long as their economic interests are not jeopardized.

    • @spiritedtruth3490
      @spiritedtruth3490 3 роки тому

      Another running dog of the CCP! Hahahahaha China will work with anyone? Which planet did you just landed from? Hahahahaha

    • @harisanagaram4131
      @harisanagaram4131 3 роки тому

      @@spiritedtruth3490 Very close to China

    • @spiritedtruth3490
      @spiritedtruth3490 3 роки тому

      @@harisanagaram4131 China operates like a Triad big brother! No rule of law n will continue to do so for as long as they are permitted by spineless running dogs politicians that peddle this kind of nonsense by Dr M!

  • @pengliu2087
    @pengliu2087 3 роки тому

    I "like" how most of the questions were about how China would " lose / get beaten ", very revealing, but not surprising from HK Club.

  • @sweetieip
    @sweetieip 4 роки тому +1

    Professor Mahbabani, perhaps you shall conduct another course : The Arts of Answering biaised questions

    • @summerli2010
      @summerli2010 4 роки тому

      yes he is really good at that.

  • @apubanerjee2037
    @apubanerjee2037 4 роки тому

    What a intellectual discussion!!

  • @greatasia606
    @greatasia606 3 роки тому

    No worries, free media, democracy and partisan politics will keep the Indians very busy for decades to come.

  • @dominiccordova8347
    @dominiccordova8347 4 роки тому +2

    Kishore is ALWAYS channeling Victor Gao.

    • @thinkingaloud5379
      @thinkingaloud5379 4 роки тому +2

      Dominic-What's wrong with Kishore having similar views llike Victor Gao?We all have our views.

    • @thinkingaloud5379
      @thinkingaloud5379 4 роки тому +5

      @Adam LB It is easy to accuse China for stealing technology but where is the proof?Huawei is constantly accused of being a security threat but western intelligence has never been able to prove it despite scrubbing through all its gears for years.The US stole rocket technology from Germany and submarine ballistic missiles from Japan after the War.A casual check at the court registry in the US will show many cases of companies accusing each other of stealing intellectual property.Edward Snowden's book reveals extensive spying by the US of foreign countries as well as its own people.Who can forget the uproar over the bugging of the hand phone of Angela Merkel by the US to eavesdrop on her conversations despite the fact that Germany is a close ally?China's hands are not clean but neither is the West's.Lets not think one is holier than the other if you want to be fair and objective .

    • @fsteh787
      @fsteh787 3 роки тому

      @Adam LB When US was still very small during WW2, US stole almost all its technology from the mighty German. 2/ Don’t peddle nonsense if you are ignorant with patents rights and technology, you may read book written Dr Yukon Huang of Princeton University on the economic perspective of both US and China. Don’t peddle ignorant comments here, you are a laughing stock to us.

  • @madmanjshum
    @madmanjshum 3 роки тому +2

    FCC short for Funded by CIA Club.

  • @MsOpineminded
    @MsOpineminded 4 роки тому +4

    Singapore...Press Freedom? LOL

    • @cocoyama7298
      @cocoyama7298 4 роки тому +1

      once those American mainstream medias move to Singapore, there will be the end of peace in Singapore. Don't forget, a lot of them are paid by CIAs and a lot of instigate hatred among people.

  • @lv9657
    @lv9657 4 роки тому +1

    Well said Prof Kishore Mahbubani

  • @eastpaw
    @eastpaw 3 роки тому

    Her microphone makes it look like she's being censored.

  • @jennifer-oc6io
    @jennifer-oc6io 4 роки тому

    Don’t go against money, coorporate with everyone

  • @profpmartin
    @profpmartin 3 роки тому +1

    Not good camera work poor woman looks as if she has a large mustache. The director should keep the picture on the very important speaker . He makes great points.

  • @eastpaw
    @eastpaw 3 роки тому +1

    Poor woman. She's trying so hard to make Mahbubani agree that China's the bad guy and he just blithely ignores all her insinuations and sets the record straight.

    • @skazka3789
      @skazka3789 2 роки тому +1

      They were legit not on the same level lol

  • @Jake00001
    @Jake00001 4 роки тому +1

    The title "How much did China lose?" is more applicable.

    • @bluesea421
      @bluesea421 4 роки тому

      German measles,
      Spanish flu,
      Middle East respiratory syndrome,
      Marburg virus disease,
      Zika fever,
      West Nile virus,
      Ebola,
      Lime disease,
      Rocky Mountain spotted fever,
      all these above are ok for everyone, because the world is mature, and accepts facts of life, and accepts reality, to improve and solve the issue at hand, instead of whining like a child,
      but the China virus is not ok apparently, because china is a glass heart sensitive snowflake lol.

  • @keepcalmcarryon9097
    @keepcalmcarryon9097 3 роки тому

    I have a lot of time for Kishore, for he speaks based on facts without the biaiseness, unlike one sees from the ususal so called China Experts but in truth China bashers. However I do disgaree with him on one topic, which is why Asia needs US to be there? Yes she does need US and others for trade but not for resolution of Asian matters. If Asian countries are what Kishore claims them to be, aspired to be civilised, top, able to resolve differences without resorting to violence and with pride, then all Asian countries or large majority shoild be mature enough to sort themsslves out, yes it will be painful, time consuming etc... otherwise it is no different to a bunch of kids trying to convince others that they are matured and exprienced adults, however would run to a true adult for help if there is a disagreement within the group.
    In summary, it is not an Asian century until the major of countries wake up and say no.more foreign interference in this region and shall resolve the differences internally no matter what.

  • @joydivision1173
    @joydivision1173 3 роки тому

    Jesus ...Green Jacket Lady simply doesn’t get it. Every question posed accuses China “bad” on everything 😂

  • @kshen7485
    @kshen7485 3 роки тому +1

    This arrogant black professor needs to be educated by Kishore.

  • @vincenthiew3048
    @vincenthiew3048 3 роки тому

    south china sea safety?
    the shipments thru these area are 90% related to China. Do you think China would like to make a mess of these waterways?
    and there is none.of.the american's business in this area. if less.than 10% presumably ia related to AMERICA is important, what is 90% of china

  • @willng247
    @willng247 3 роки тому

    China will never under estimate any country.

  • @cocoyama7298
    @cocoyama7298 4 роки тому

    hello

  • @hjw2405
    @hjw2405 3 роки тому

    No wonder the other website discussing this book has to turn off comments. Most comments here are not based on facts but brainwashed fantasy.

  • @DipakBose-bq1vv
    @DipakBose-bq1vv 4 роки тому

    China must be isolated . It is a terrible country with deadly germs and virus and with disgusting eating habits.

  • @clipwat1511
    @clipwat1511 4 роки тому

    Hong kong has one culture:
    Be slaves and built railroads for us.

  • @DipakBose-bq1vv
    @DipakBose-bq1vv 4 роки тому

    Prof Mehboobani admit your mistake. China was defeated. It is the most hated country now because of its own faults and own actions.
    I do not know how much money China gives him every month.

  • @bluesea421
    @bluesea421 4 роки тому

    In North Korea, when you visit, you will see over 100,000 North Koreans in and out of the MTR subway, even busier than any Friday in 2019 central in HK, all North Koreans in designer suits and brief cases acting like they are going to work, then at lunch time at a 5 star hotel when you dine, you will see many North Koreans there having lunch, full table of food and different bottles of expensive wine, then the tour guide will take you to a hospital, with best German very very expensive medical equipment, and one lady there in the first class room (which looks even better than your hotel room), (where she praises her beloved Kim Jong Un, for inventing this medical equipment and building it with his bare hands this morning, which cured her super rare cancer, in 24 seconds) and she will be speaking in fluent Cantonese with you, telling you she is about to run a marathon that afternoon, as she feels great now lol.
    Obviously it’s all lies and all staged.
    If North Korea is Coke,
    The China is Coke light.

    • @TheAlbert18361
      @TheAlbert18361 4 роки тому

      Blue Sea pls hide ur stupidness....

    • @bluesea421
      @bluesea421 4 роки тому

      Albert Lim - Ccp has wasted all of China’s money on useless face saving propaganda, everything is about their face, that’s all.
      Spent on 50 cents army and wumao propagandists online, total waste of money, nothing comes out of it.
      Also wasting money on stupid things just for showing off and save face, giving money in billions to Maduro and African countries, for nothing, total total waste.
      The chinese communist party, has infiltrated into Democratic Party, feminists and MSM, it uses antifa/BLM to burn down cities and stir up chaos to weaken USA so that Biden and Kamala (these are the useful idiots of our time) can win and bring down USA.
      Once wolf warriors are now sheep pretending to be weak and using the victim card, manipulating others, like teenage girls.

    • @TheAlbert18361
      @TheAlbert18361 4 роки тому

      @@bluesea421 dude, stop showing ur idiocy.... Just do urself a favour...

    • @bluesea421
      @bluesea421 4 роки тому

      Albert Lim - Ccp means Total 100% lies all lies and lies that’s all, there are 1.1 billion people in China who make less than $140 a month, that is super poor not super power, I tip $140 to waiters when I have a meal with clients at restaurants at times. Only the top ccp government officials and their cronies can gather money through all kinds of corruption then act like they are giving to the poor but most of the taxes end up in Swiss banks and overseas, not ONE YUAN in chinese belongs to the citizens, it all belongs to the government.
      All news from China and their gdp numbers and Wuhan virus infected numbers or anything, you just need to give them 50% discount, as whatever they say, is never the real figures, always fake. Always!

    • @TheAlbert18361
      @TheAlbert18361 4 роки тому +1

      @@bluesea421 keep showing ur idiocy... Don't stop dude...

  • @dennisconroy3459
    @dennisconroy3459 3 роки тому

    What a load of side show down the of scew road rubbish