As a Chinese from Hong Kong, I think Prof Mahbubani really understands China. In particular, China only wants its people to have a better quality of life and to make progress, rather than strive for world domination like the United States.
I've listened to many of Kishore's speeches. This one is great as usual. But my compliments to the moderator/interviewer this time. You challenged him and asked all the right questions in a very professional tone. Three thumbs up! 👍👍👍
Indeed, this host has the most balanced perspectives in asking questions n adding value to Kishore's narratives.. n his final words are indeed most needed in Western Thinking to realise China Rise is unstoppable... !
Indeed, this host has the most balanced perspectives in asking questions n adding value to Kishore's narratives.. n his final words are indeed most needed in Western Thinking to realise China Rise is unstoppable... !
Sadly, every time when I hear Kishore speaking to a western interviewer, it feels like he was playing piano to cows. They just don't get him, they were trapping in their own imagination and prejudice bubble about China.
The western elites got it, they just can't admit what they have done to China was wrong, by admitting the wrong doing to China is to admit the wrong doing of colonization. They are still colonizing the world even today.
@V M do you know the Anglo Saxon Whites are colonising Australia, and the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders are asking their land rights and human rights?
Kishore gave a great balanced thoughtful interview as always. But I also must give praise to the American interviewer who is clearly another thoughtful wise person. He asked very good relevant insightful questions instead of pushing a biased viewpoint so prevalent in the main stream Western media.
@@vinryan3267 there are some people who judge a book by its cover and then feel foolish. Judging a person's intelligence without meeting them is equally foolish.
Intelligent questions likewise with corresponding responses. Many interviewers do not realise Prof. Mahbubani understands the Chinese psyche very well because he had been working and playing with many Chinese people since he was born.
@@subramanianmani2518 but the Indians are too emotional to appreciate that India,/China join cooperation is good for both countries especially India needs China funding to build infrastructures..otherwise the economic gap between rural n urban will widen further to the detriment of Indian political stability....( just like in the late 1970s, China need to work with Western capitalist to start its industrialization regardless of politics n past 200 years of humiliation by imperialists....while the border war is another colonial Biden agenda to ensure instability in Asia to sustain Western hegemony....
@@subramanianmani2518 Unfortunately, some Indians disagree and one of even mentioned that Kishore is a slave of China. Having read comments on China from Indians, 99.9% of them speaks badly of China. Why? Because of border issues and also China works with Pakistan on BRI. Why can't China chose to be friend with Pakistan even though she is India's enemy? These Indians commenters must learn to be mature.
As always, Kishore keeps waking up the West with a historical view and a forward looking head, at the same time not ignoring the 1.4 billion Chinese people are entitled to pursue for better life and the respect they deserve. It's that simple.
Go back and listen to him, again, Yan Liu. Reality is that you get the respect you earn. There's nothing in what Kishore that says anything different. You don't get respect for being 1.4 mil, you have to do more than that.
@@bobsmith3983 Thanks, Bob, yes I did. Can you help me out a bit, though ? There's some clown who posted that she/he thought that India would want to remain "in servitude with its "Colonial Master" instead of being friendly with its neighbours, Nepal, Pakistan and China. I've lost it now and can't find that particular thread, have you spotted it ? Can you believe it ? India and Nepal have about as open a relationship as 2 sovereign nations could get and that includes New Zealand and Australia, Ireland and Britain. Pakistan sanctions and accommodates terrorists who attack India's cities to the extent that India has had to to make incursion into Pakistan to protect itself. China ? Ask the families of the 20 unarmed Indian soldiers on the 'disputed' border between them. Britain ? a major contributor to India by its foreign aid budget, a massive immigrant recipient, it's Home Secretary is Priti Patel ? So India is happy to co operate with Britain but remains cautious of its neighbours, China and Pakistan, surprise, surprise. It isn't 'Western' countries which are racist, it's countries like CCP led Han obsessed China and Japan which won't even take in Korean immigrants. Who was the last Chinese or Japanese Home Secretary equivalent ?e Do you think she might be a Pinky ?
Respect is earned, and anyone who believes that China under Xi deserves respect is a fool. It deserves utter and complete contempt. I don't begrudge the Chinese people trying to raise their standard of living but when it comes from complete theft that is contemptible. China has prospered because the west has undercut it's own values and moved it's industrial base there, where the Chinese stole or copied all the intellectual property. China was a backward backwater before the west invested there, it has created very little on it's own so far. It's amazing how China's military jets are complete clones of western jets and came out of nowhere. From zero aviation industry to cutting edge stealth fighters - yeah sure China developed that itself. And pigs can fly too.
Kishore is great! I also love his book. The only thing I disagree is that the UK is Europe. It is not. The UK is part of the anglo saxon world that is so negative about China. Europe is much more positive about China.
Indeed, this host has the most balanced perspectives in asking questions n adding value to Kishore's narratives.. n his final words are indeed most needed in Western Thinking to realise China Rise is unstoppable... !
You sure people who disagree with Kishore are all anti China (communist) and jealous of her economic success 😉? You sure Kishore is 100% right i his judgement on issues? You sure?
@@vinryan3267 He has no chip on his shoulders. Professor Mabuhbani was born in Singapore of Indian ethnicity. He got his advanced education in Canada. He is always grateful for his Western education. In fact, he said that the West has gifted the world with its accountable governance, science, etc. He means that despite the negative side of western colonization. The world has advanced for the better.
Actually the host is excellent. He asks all the right questions by highlighting the western shortcomings to allow Kishore the opportunity to explain the situation to a neophyte.
Excellent ,thought provoking discussion with strategic thinking and profound sense of global political, economic and social realities . Professor kishore , Our world needs people like you to educate public the current geo political realities. THANK YOU.
what Kishore stated at the beginning were not only what CHINA want as a nation, but also every Chinese want , time will speak for us, yes indeed China will keep growing no matter how many criticisms wanted to restrict us from doing so.
@@JonSnow-pi6jb and with a world view that borders on Appeasement. He advocates India and Vietnam accepting China's land grabs on their respective border and islands and the World accepting China's commandeering of the South China Sea and enter into alliances with China. Appeasement didn't work well in 1938. He also promotes the "return" of the old world order of China dominating world economies, that current dominance of the West is a aberration. He ignores that nothing lasts forever and that change is inevitable. An interesting point of view but too simplistic, however not too simplistic for so many respondents in these threads, it's just w hat they want to hear, they love it.
US and / or Australia imperialist ? Explain how or what makes you accuse those countries of imperialism? If you can't, undertake to apologise to both. Are you as stupid as Ronnie Chen or QL ? Do you also write stupid things ?
@@vinryan3267 Listen F*kFace, Read history !! The imperialist UK colonized, plundered the world and exported criminals/outlaws to US/Canada/Australia who are now part of same family of bullies.
@@vka3 Thankyou for you courteous and considered response, V A. It's pleasure to respond to a considered, calm and non-abusive post. It's even better if the response is sensible and takes into account context. So I respond...oh
@@vinryan3267 I thought V A's response was fair considering your rude rebuttal. Is is so easy for the west to forget their own history when criticizing others.
@@HKChineseCanadian Go back and read the thread, KKCC, all that was criticised was the mindless and ignorant initiating slogan which initiated the thread. Your 'Is' (sic) is so easy for the west to forget their own history... ' is an odd response.
Credit ? where is it 'due' ? Isn't this bloke a charleton who preaches to an audience, not what he believes, but what he thinks they want to hear ? Like you ? If he'd concluded that China should tread carefully because sSe is breaking international laws, would you be as excited ?
I think Kishore is telling westerner again and again that you should predict the future by learning the history. But westerner almost never learn the Asian history or Chinese history.
Mr. Kishore by nationality he is a Singaporean, by race he is a Indian descendant. His views and forward looking and far-sightedness in the world is impartial, non prujudice but only in the name of well-being of the world based on figures and facts. No lies, fancy or imagination.
@@vinryan3267 just concluded without basis is something only fool will be mad. The reality s something you must learn from Mr. Kishore otherwise Harry and Tom also can make a conclusion.
@@skchew2213 I acknowledge that English is not your first language and that your English is better than my Mandarin but what on earth is that supposed to mean ? The idea of posting is to communicate, I have no idea what you mean,
American used to do many great things like Chinese does today. but many todays American just sit there complain whoever work better than them. stop complain, open eyes and go to work, that is the way to make US great again.
@@vinryan3267 No worries Vin, Prof Kishore is a very famous personality and also a very sort after speaker in the West due to the few famous books he wrote.
@@yongkomo1860 Thankyou, Yong, for your courteous reply. Can I assume that you are an Australian Citizen/resident, educated in Australia or an avid watcher of "Neighbours" ?
@@vinryan3267 My pleasure, Vin. I'm from SEA (South East Asia) and would say very aware of what's happening around here and overseas. Had visited about half of China (including Xinjiang) during my work assignments there for many years. That really opened my eyes.
qzhang25. What on earth is that supposed to mean ? Western Countries, assuming you mean Western Europe, Northern America and Australasia, have not only listened to the rest of the World but have done all they can to improve the lot of the impoverished of Asia and Africa. They accept refugees from the excesses of the leaders of the various of Asian and African countries. The World is awash with refugees from poverty, terror, discrimination, persecution. NONE of those refugees are from western countries. Doesn't that tell you something ? Instead of whingeing about western countries, get off your backside and do something in your own back yard about achieving freedom and prosperity for your country, the other Asian and African countries.
@@vinryan3267 since you talk about refuge, I guess you know most refuges come from countries where USA and NATO invaded and interfered, from ex-colonies. Now USA wants Asian countries to take side, guess how they will choose?
@@qzhang25 Genuine refugees usually come from countries with authoritarian and oppressive governments and which carry out atrocities against hteir citizens, usually on ethnic or tribal grounds, Myanmar, Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, Vietnam, Cambodia, Syria, Somalia, Rawanda etc. Your first post is just a thoughtless anti western slogan, your second no better. All the world's problems are the fault of the West, no analysis, no thought, no logic, just slogans.
@@vinryan3267 Who is authorized to judge if a country is authoritarian and subject to destruction? And refuge is the direct result of the USA & Nato interference, agree?
Why ? Respect has to be earned, can you explain what Asians have done that earn respect ? What is it that makes respect for Asians different from respect for everyone ? It's just a slogan, anyway, isn't it ? Do you have any idea what you are talking about ? Stick to cheap slogans.
@@vinryan3267 you should ask what have you done to keep Asian under your feet, African under your neck chains, Mexican under your butt, middle eastern under your gun point Yea, You indeed done a lot to earn respect.
Kishore, you explain to these western audience and intelligentsia the best that you could for how long?But over the years, did they even heed some advice from you? No, they just do it their way, with no finesse, no strategies and just ugly actions. And they still think they hold the moral compass of the world, that they have great’ values’ and assumed that theirs are the universal ‘ values’! What audacity! Don’t you think?
@@user-nq2sw6sg8q Good man (?), Bill Smith (I'm still at AZ ure in Mandarin Class, Builklk is a good bloke, you'll benefit from the association. The French have an apt word for crowd, "foule", say it out loud and it sounds like an English word that I hope won't apply to you, as long as you stop saying silly things. If you agree with 9/10th of what Carleton Kishore says then all that will save your credibility is that you are still in that kindergarten class. In Nomine Patri, et Flio Sancti, et .......................................
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Prof Kishore....great analysis and advice but sad to say, you are "throwing pearls to swines..." Top American policy makers will scoff at your opinion and ask themselves...."Who is this man from Singapore to tell us what we should do...?" America is the greatest nation on earth...Surely he cannot be smarter than us?
Clashes of the powerful, that is always human nature. No can change that nature. Let nature develops on its own. When things played out, there will be leadership with insights, and things will go back to normal. The cycle then restarts, only by different players and in a different way.
Thankyou Whiterabbit. I'm reminded that 11 months ago, the Chinese New Year was celebrated. I've heard that Wuhan was locked down for all except those who wanted to travel abroad. What have you heard ?
Hello, Whiterabbit, are you still alive or do you live in Wuhan and have either died or aren't allowed to leave. Remember, you miust preserve what the Party wants.
Think a little deeper Sam. Australia astrides both East and west. Our immigration is primarily Asian and Pacific, not European. We have vast wealth in natural resources. China looms as the great new superpower to dominate the Asia Pacific. Its activities are not all benign. The future of our region is inexorably linked to the whim of Chinese leadership. That is Australia's difficult position.
The difference in cultures between the US and China is the following metaphor: The US takes an orange, cuts it in half, and uses both sides to juice it until it is dry discarding afterwards. The Chinese takes an orange and study to try find solutions to grow an orange grove to become a partner. In both situations people are the oranges.
are you sure that the interviewer is ignorent. On an objective note, the landlord looks very shaky. Alley attached to which were out of control but not when I was around. Be good, Children.
@@stevenhuang4193 The role of an interviewer is to extract information from and test the interviewee, not to learn from, in this case, him. This particular interviewer extracted a very pro China response, I'd have thought you'd be happy with that.
What is interesting in Kishore Mahubabani's geopolitical analysis is its deep understanding of the strategic interests of different national formations from their different points of view -- in relation to a global system of unequal and hierarchical interstate relations.
There are a few things wrong with India, and one is the caste system. That's no. 1. No. 2, how would the white ppl feel about the centuries of humiliation if they were the ones who suffered the insults from the Chinese? But no, it would never happen the other way around. It's not in the Chinese DNA; reciprocity, as the Chinese usually say, " what you do not wish upon yourself, do not do to others". No. 3, to paraphrase Xi, "if China becomes super power and bullies the world, she will fail coz the Chinese people and the whole world would topple her."
Lets look at the numbers. 01. USA debt right now is 27.8 trillion. In the USA, experts predict the debt of the USA will be five times its economy by 2070 and that is a conservative estimation. So for example, if the USA economy is 50 trillion by 2070 its debt will be 250 trillion. How are you going to grow? 02. China will have about 600 to 800 million middle class - a huge consumer base in 10 years. 03. China is finally opening its financial markets to the world - a 45 trillion financial market and could be 80-100 trillion by 2030. 04. China's economy is to surpass the USA in 6 years at the quickest or 8 years at a conservative rate. But more importantly, its PPP will double the USA which just means its purchasing power will double the USA. Its economy is already bigger than the USA since 2014 by PPP terms. What does that mean (PPP)? If you extract the price based on the living costs in each country and give USA a value of 1, then here are the numbers. GDP For 2019 USA = 21.7 trillion China = 14.7 trillion PPP for 2019 USA = 21.7 trillion China = 27.1 trillion It just basically means that based on the living costs in China overall and if the Chinese RMB is given the ratio to the dollar based on the prices in China, the Chinese economy would be worth 27.1 trillion. It means 1 dollar in China goes way further than in the USA under normal circumstances. Top 4 economies by GDP - 2019 01. USA 02. China 03. Japan 04. India Top 4 economies by PPP - 2019 01. China 02. USA 03. India 04. Japan 05. China has 7-8 of the world's largest bank - USA has 1. 06. China has 3.4 trillion in reserves - USA has none (living on printed money) 07. China has the most trading partners. 08. Chinese has the most companies in the top 500 in the world. Four main things China is going to really concentrate on even though there are hundreds. 01. Poverty Alleviation - Based on the UN standard for poverty alleviation China has successfully raised over 800 million Chinese out of poverty in the end of 2020 - a journey of 40 years . More people with money means stronger country. 02. Technology leader by 2025 in core technologies and more after that. 03. Most powerful military - by 2035 China will be the number 1 military power. 04. BSN - the Blockchain System Network - The number one goal of this system is to replace the dollar as the world reserve currency, therefore, ending the dominance of the dollar and the final dagger in the USA. This will end the printing of money by USA whenever it wanted. The Swift system for international trade controlled by the USA will be reduce significantly - reducing the power of the dollar. Like Elon Musk said, China will be at least twice the USA economy but it can be four times bigger. The gap is too big for the USA to overcome. Get use to the original order of dominance - China and India number 1 and 2 by 2050. By 2050 China economy = USA + EU + Canada + UK + Australia China/India = 46-50% of total World GDP We are going back to history. Lets face it. whether you believe or not or like it or not its not going to change history. GET USE TO A NEW WORLD ORDER SOON (10 YEARS).
i like that the interviewer bring up australia, however china did not initial the attack on australia, australia target china first. if you punch tyson, you really can't blame if tyson decide to punch you back. there is in fact alot of debate and discussion as to why australia did this, and alot of people blame US for it, but actually it has little to do with US. it has more to do with Australia interpretation of Chinese interest. Australia and China does not have a direct border, Australia's border are with ASEAN, and if one see the future projection of growth, it is very likely ASEAN would be more important than Australia. and if China become the hegemon of the region, by no ill will of China, China will likely side with ASEAN in any disagreemment since ASEAN is more important economically then Australia... so Australia believe their interest would be sideline in an Asia Pacific that is Asia centric. so they are really creating this problem to push US toward confrontation with China so they would at least have US as a backer. China understand this, which is why they choose to punish Australia.
Why sneer, Ronnie ? Pax Americana has operated since 1945. Since 1972, the greatest beneficiary of the World Order guaranteed by the US, has been China. Its admirable rise from extreme poverty, Mao induced but that's another argument, is directly attributable to the encouragement of the US, its tolerance of unfair trading practices and access to its market to Chinese industry.
@@ronniechew6566 Good question, Ronnie. Requirements that Western businesses wanting to set up in China release intellectual property to Government, requirement that they have Chinese Government appointed partners, preferment of Chinese interests over 'foreign' interests in disputes, tariffs, dumping, subsidizing domestic companies to permit undercutting competitors, manipulating currency levels to obtain unfair price advantages in foreign economies, 'theft' of intellectual property, government complicity in ignoring direct copying of technology. These were tolerated by western countries, particularly the US, in the expectation that China would become democratic as its standards of living rose and would then become a better world citizen.
@@vinryan3267 Those companies wanting to come in for cheap labor to make more profits did agree to the terms of shared technology which China paid for in the hundreds of millions per tech. It really is not infringement of intellectual property when there are consent from those profit hungry corporations wanting a big slice of China's consumer market and better profits from Americans consumers. They didn't sell their products any cheaper despite making it cheaper in China. China have their own way of democracy. It's a socialist democracy with a mix a capitalism and other ingredients added in that works in China. It may not work in other countries so they will have to experiment and take the good and throw the bad away which China did. American democracy actually works for the top 1% but never for the people. Chinese government works for the people to make their lives better. That's a governance that everyone in the world would prefer. You should learn how they do it and compare with democracies all over the world on their own ways. I do notice that the American way is failing their own people and if your are in America you should be able to see the difference and disparity from the haves and the have nots very clearly. In my country Malaysia which is a democracy, politicians struggle for power not for the people but for themselves. Since independance in 1957 the former government has been in power for 61 years and have been racially dividing the 3 main races of Malay, Chinese and Indians and getting rich robbing the country until 2018 when the people finally voted them out and a new government (former opposition) took over albeit a short 2 years when some traitors became frogs and the old regime retook the country and made a mockery of it. Now we are waiting for the next election to vote them out again. We got to choose who represents us in all levels of government while the American way can only choose a Republican or Democrat president. Only 2 choices. I actually prefer Bernie Sanders but.....
@@ronniechew6566 Greetings, fellow Commonwealthian, a response to the level I'd have expected had I known That’s globalisation. The same thing happened to Japan after WW11. It prospered because it offered cheap labour and was sponsored by the US. In the 1960s, Japan was Australia’s biggest trading partner. The cost of living in Japan reached Western proportions, it could not maintain the cheap labour advantage so it moved its industry into South East Asia and became more service oriented. I would ordinarily expect that China will do the same but its authoritarian government, confrontational attitude and sheer size of population are something I’ve never seen before. I’m keeping out of Communism/Socialism v Capitalism and Racism. Nobody wins those debates, let alone converts.
Don’t be too hard on the US. Europe, Asia, northern Africa were a mess in 1946. The 2 Americas and Australia were virtually untouched The (North) Americans had been drawn into 2 World Wars in the previous 25 years, they didn’t want a third so they occupied both Germany (which they should have done after WW1) and Japan, installed democratic governments, ensured their prosperity. Put aside your chauvinism (i e leave China out), both now respectively dominate Europe and Asia economically and politically and both are forces for peace in their regions. The US doesn’t start wars, it enters into wars because it has so many allies and an inclination to defend those who can’t defend themselves. North Korea and North Vietnam invaded, the Balkans went to war among themselves until NATO, really US and UK, intervened, Iraq and Afghanistan were errors, shouldn’t have but part of their motivation was to protect civilians against extreme Islamic groups, ditto Somalia, how could you let that level of genocide continue ?
Prof Kishore, do you think the West owes China an apology for the humiliation of a 100 years and they should also compensate China for the unequal treaty as well as for the ruins of the Summer Palace and to return all the antiques stolen from them?
The hidden question is really whether the west is willing to share it’s power with the rising china and accept the fact that their idea of western democracy may not be the universal system for all prosperous countries. As long as the answer is a NO, the geopolitical conflict is inevitable.
Kishore Mahbubani is highly respected as a brilliant modern-day philosopher. His insights and views on world affairs are truthful, compelling and unbiased. Kishore writes and speaks his mind without fear or favour, notably his incisive criticism of America and some Western countries for their anti-China posture and activities. So far Kishore has been proven correct in his views on the unstoppable rise of China and the failure of the West to face reality. America and th West are sleeping while China has been building a Brave New World. The 21st century belongs to China whether you like it or not!
The number 1 priority of the US government is to look after it's citizens, Number 2 is to ensure that the rest of the World is treated fairly and not bullied. She looks after both. It is only those who benefit from authoritarian bullying, like CCP China and its sycophants who criticise the US. Are you one of those ?
@@vinryan3267 He is one of the most intelligent and respected person of our time. In his career, he has held many important positions and represented Singapore as Singapore Ambassador to the UN and many Professorships in China and the Dean of Lee Kuan Yu School at Singapore University. Search for his many excellent views that were recorded on Yuotube
@@charttrakarn3438 Fair answer, Chart, if I may presume to use your first name. Singapore is a City-State that I admire, it straddles a fine line between accomadation with an oppressive, potential invader and the status of the invaded, it will follow Taiwan. There's lots I don't admire about Singapore, its authoritarianism, but I live where Singapore's tensions are academic. for mine, Kishore is far too anti US in the way he expresses himself. He speaks of CCP led china as deserving of understanding then of the US and being ignorant of Asian sensibilities, boorish and on a downward path, economically. By so doing, he justifies the false proposition that the US and other western countries oppress China, when, they, particularly the US, endorse and trade with China. The US freed China from Japanese rule and actively promote Chinese economic advancement. Kishore justifies Chinese aggression instead of promoting peaceful engagement. From a Singaporean point of view, I concede his eloquence and exposure but from the World's perspective, he's a danger to peace.
@@vinryan3267 I believe Dr. Kishore Mahbubani has been trying to be the bridge of understanding between China and the West, nothing else. In fact, China has been good and loyal ally of the US, except during the Korean War. Even during the Vietnam War, China was secret ally of the US fighting against Soviet Unions and her ally, North Vietnam. In 1978, when the US suddenly changed her foreign policy against China, China was shocked and many US College Alumni could not believe it. Because both China and her people looked at US as their leader that they owned so much and did not forget. The voice from China, no matter how they had tried to call for continuing friendship had been ignored and getting more hostile instead. You can see a lot of Fake News, accusations starting from Hong Kong, Tibet and Xinjiang. Together with all kinds of Propaganda and all Armadas from the West intimidate China regularly in South China Sea. Another thing is Corvid-19 that happened in Wuhan, but did not originate in Wuhan. When it first happened, the Japanese doctor and Taiwanese doctors came out and defended China. They said it happened in Wuhan, China but did not originate in China. Later on, the US CDC Director, Washington DC., Robert A. Redfield, MD. gave a testify to the Senate on March 20, 2020, the Senate Members asked him “ in Spring of 2019, there were over 20,000 deaths from Flu and respiratory related disease in Maryland, N. Carolina and Virginia, could some of those died from Corvid-19? His answer is Yes. The first victim of Corvid-19 in Wuhan, China happened in December 2020, 9-10 months after the US. The recent investigation in Wuhan by the WHO team has not concluded yet, but the US and her allies already beat the drum. At the end, Dr. Kishore Mahbubani just tries his best to smooth the misunderstanding between China and the US plus. Will anyone accept it, that is another story?
@@charttrakarn3438 I responded a while back, Chart but can't see my response. In brief, CCP led China sent 320,000 troops into North Vietnam, 4,000 died in combat. It supplied equipment and support of USD20 mil. 1978 was the year the US recognised the Chinese Communist Government. Attitudes toward China in the US, and other western countries, improved, the direct opposite of your claim. There's more in the earlier post, you may locate it, I can't.
As a Chinese, I don't logically get why the century of humiliation from 1840s to 1940s has to stand out in Chinese history. Was it really worse than the Manchu invasion, the Mongol invasion, and many other devastating internal turmoils that wiped out majority of the population in Chinese history. I honestly think that was also the century of enlightenment, for both capitalism and communism. The whole world is now on equal footing in terms of modern science and technology. And China is holding an edge over other countries including the US in terms of average IQ and work ethics of its population.
I can't find any instance of Deng ever saying that. You just made that up. The Global Times publishes it, though. Isn't a better Deng quote "China is not a superpower, nor will she ever seek to be one... If one day China should change her color and turn into a superpower, if she too should play the tyrant in the world, and everywhere subject others to her bullying, aggression and exploitation, the people of the world should identify her as social-imperialist, expose it, oppose it and work together with the Chinese people to overthrow".
Dr. Mahbubani: The new humiliation is on the way! US, Australia, Britain, French, Germany joined with Japan and send the warships to Chinese doorstep to say "Hello" to Chinese people and show their muscles with a joint naval exercise these couple of weeks (02/2021 - 03/2021). The Asian Era you expected won't come peacefully and smoothly.
New humiliation ? What is the old humiliation ? If you are talking about occupation, then isn't the only humiliation that of occupation by Japan (and Mongolia but that's a different story) ? 'Century of humiliation' is an invention of the CCP to trick the citizens of China to overlook its perfidy. The US does not claim The Atlantic or the Pacific Oceans as its own. Australia does not claim the Pacific or the Indian Oceans as its own. Britain does not claim the Atlantic as its own. None of Germany, France or Japan claim any seaway as their own. All want free and unimpeded oceans for passage by the world's citizens, including CCP led China. None are threatening wars, none say 'make xxxxxx an enemy and xxxx will be your enemy. None are saying "...won't come peacefully and smoothly."
@Vin Ryan Let me hazard to reply you on this most famously known "Century of humiliation" narrative. This narrative was so widely accepted even within the high officials of Singapura Foreign Affairs Ministry. That the so-called "Humiliation" inflicted on the Qing Dynasty during the ransacked of the Yuan Ming Yuen is purely a superior Western Allied forces against a weak Qing Army. The reality is the opposite. But they conveniently twist the narrative around and play victim until today. Just like those BLM and leftist playing victim role in US. With the "seed" planted into the minds of every generation of mainland China no wonder hatred and envy against Western nations is ingrained into thier mind. All verbal outward pleasantries can never hide their true emotion.
@@malayaharimau Thankyou for your insight. If you are in Singapore, you are closer to the issue than me and what you write looks genuine. I've long regarded the "100 years humiliation" as an exercise in crowd control by the CCP Hitler employed the same trick, Germany, the Master Race, was betrayed in WW 1 and would redress the wrong inflicted at Versailles.
@@vinryan3267 The only reason I get familiar with this is because of frequent encounter with CCP Red Guards debating on this matter. Upon investigating their source of reference, I realized all this is rooted on what is generalized in thier Baidu (Google equivalent) Baike ( Wikipedia equivalent) on the "Eight nation Alliance". Just a comparison between the Wikipedia and Baike on one specific historical incidence reveal the vast difference of the cause and consequences of the event. So I realized how masterful is the CCP is using all past events to re-narrate it to support the Party cause.
@@malayaharimau Thankyou MH, that might explain why some of the material is so absurd. No doubt some posters receive their information from Baike, manipulated by the CCP. That probably explains it.
What is important is the Chinese' perception of their government, not what the others perceive China to be. Just like the US perceived Iraq to have WMDs but when in reality there was none. The US should stay away from others' affairs. Why judge another country based on your biases and hearsay?
What happens if the Chinese perception of their Government is that it should be replaced ? Where do Chinese citizens go then ? If the US had stayed out of Japanese affairs in 1942, where would you, yes, you, be now ? Mainland China would still be controlled by Japan. Instead of criticising the US, you should be thanking it.
@@vinryan3267 China belongs to the Chinese citizens. They do not need Japan or the west to control them. And by the way, thanks for the opium which was forced on the Chinese too.
@@vinryan3267 I am a second generation Chinese Malaysian. The Chinese are capable enough of changing their government without any interference from the US. Chinese are just as smart, if not smarter than the Americans. Please take care of your own backyard first, with US leading in the number of Covid19 deaths. Do you really care about the Chinese or you just want to topple the CPC? If you care about the Chinese, do something about the increasing anti-Asian attacks in the US. If you just want to topple the CPC, then I suggest it is not your concern. Do not poke your nose into another sovereign country's internal affairs.
@@MegaSuehan Citizens in democracies regularly change governments. The Governments serve the people. It's harder in autocracies but it can still occur, off hand, I can't think of it happeneing very ofter, perhaps the eastern bloc countries in the 1980s ? The US has no interest in interfering with the citizens of China, what makes you think it does ? Do you think that the US wants to invade China ? The US would much prefer to trade than invade. I have no interest in what the Chinese people do, as long as China is a good world citizen. Your views are too simplistic
Look into a video on a musician playing piano close to some cattle grazing in the field.... and how the cattle gather around the pianist, apparently trying to understand the "music"!! We pray the USA and The West will learn from the cattle when looking at and hearing the voices from China.
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Kishore is one of the most intelligent, insightful China experts going around right now.
Disagree, this definitely is Gordon Chang, his book "The Coming Collapse of China" is the bible of understanding China
@tfylhk ironically the world is witnessing the collapse of America lol
@@tfylhk you must be an idiot like Gordon Chan to say this.
@@tfylhk 幸苦了，同志
@@Qavsify , 哈哈, 還要繼續努力!
As a Chinese from Hong Kong, I think Prof Mahbubani really understands China. In particular, China only wants its people to have a better quality of life and to make progress, rather than strive for world domination like the United States.
Kishore is a keen and brilliant observer of China and needs to be listened to.
He's an apologist, who's paying him ? If it's CCP, better subjects are available. anyone else, this bloke is an idiot.
I've listened to many of Kishore's speeches. This one is great as usual. But my compliments to the moderator/interviewer this time. You challenged him and asked all the right questions in a very professional tone. Three thumbs up! 👍👍👍
hear his tone. challenge? more ignorant for me
Indeed, this host has the most balanced perspectives in asking questions n adding value to Kishore's narratives.. n his final words are indeed most needed in Western Thinking to realise China Rise is unstoppable... !
Indeed, this host has the most balanced perspectives in asking questions n adding value to Kishore's narratives.. n his final words are indeed most needed in Western Thinking to realise China Rise is unstoppable... !
Unlike interviewers from BBC, this interviewer is professional with serious insightful questions
Sadly, every time when I hear Kishore speaking to a western interviewer, it feels like he was playing piano to cows. They just don't get him, they were trapping in their own imagination and prejudice bubble about China.
The western elites got it, they just can't admit what they have done to China was wrong, by admitting the wrong doing to China is to admit the wrong doing of colonization. They are still colonizing the world even today.
Nail in the head buddy
totally
@V M do you know the Anglo Saxon Whites are colonising Australia, and the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders are asking their land rights and human rights?
@V M are you one of the Tibetan, Mongolian or Uygur in China?
Kishore gave a great balanced thoughtful interview as always. But I also must give praise to the American interviewer who is clearly another thoughtful wise person. He asked very good relevant insightful questions instead of pushing a biased viewpoint so prevalent in the main stream Western media.
The western media not only bias but creating bad story about China
I think he tried at the beginning but was quickly rebuffed. But you are right the interview is far more balanced than the MSM script reader.
ANERICA LISTENS TO KISHORE N LEARNS LESSONS FROM CHINA 2B WISE N RESONABLE.......
Mr Kishore Mahbubani you are speaking through the heart of the Chinese. You are Great. What you have said is exactly what the Chinese felt.
He says exactly what you want to hear. He's smart, you aren't.
@@vinryan3267 there are some people who judge a book by its cover and then feel foolish. Judging a person's intelligence without meeting them is equally foolish.
Intelligent questions likewise with corresponding responses.
Many interviewers do not realise Prof. Mahbubani understands the Chinese psyche very well because he had been working and playing with many Chinese people since he was born.
also he can play a role in normalising relations between India and China.
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@@subramanianmani2518 but the Indians are too emotional to appreciate that India,/China join cooperation is good for both countries especially India needs China funding to build infrastructures..otherwise the economic gap between rural n urban will widen further to the detriment of Indian political stability....( just like in the late 1970s, China need to work with Western capitalist to start its industrialization regardless of politics n past 200 years of humiliation by imperialists....while the border war is another colonial Biden agenda to ensure instability in Asia to sustain Western hegemony....
As a Singaporean, I am so proud of Kishore. We are so proud to have the equivalent of a Kissinger amongst our midst.
Indians too
@@subramanianmani2518 Unfortunately, some Indians disagree and one of even mentioned that Kishore is a slave of China. Having read comments on China from Indians, 99.9% of them speaks badly of China. Why? Because of border issues and also China works with Pakistan on BRI. Why can't China chose to be friend with Pakistan even though she is India's enemy? These Indians commenters must learn to be mature.
@@kennyng2289 it's because the media in india has gotten the whole country to hate China.
He is way better than Henry Kissinger. It's the feeling I have.
Most of the medias in India made a lot of fake news.
I love Kishore and I miss His voice and i cant have enough of him. Please do more interview in 2021!!!
As always, Kishore keeps waking up the West with a historical view and a forward looking head, at the same time not ignoring the 1.4 billion Chinese people are entitled to pursue for better life and the respect they deserve. It's that simple.
Go back and listen to him, again, Yan Liu. Reality is that you get the respect you earn. There's nothing in what Kishore that says anything different. You don't get respect for being 1.4 mil, you have to do more than that.
@@bobsmith3983 Thanks, Bob, yes I did.
Can you help me out a bit, though ? There's some clown who posted that she/he thought that India would want to remain "in servitude with its "Colonial Master" instead of being friendly with its neighbours, Nepal, Pakistan and China. I've lost it now and can't find that particular thread, have you spotted it ? Can you believe it ? India and Nepal have about as open a relationship as 2 sovereign nations could get and that includes New Zealand and Australia, Ireland and Britain. Pakistan sanctions and accommodates terrorists who attack India's cities to the extent that India has had to to make incursion into Pakistan to protect itself. China ? Ask the families of the 20 unarmed Indian soldiers on the 'disputed' border between them. Britain ? a major contributor to India by its foreign aid budget, a massive immigrant recipient, it's Home Secretary is Priti Patel ? So India is happy to co operate with Britain but remains cautious of its neighbours, China and Pakistan, surprise, surprise. It isn't 'Western' countries which are racist, it's countries like CCP led Han obsessed China and Japan which won't even take in Korean immigrants. Who was the last Chinese or Japanese Home Secretary equivalent ?e Do you think she might be a Pinky ?
Can't help me, Bob ?
Respect is earned, and anyone who believes that China under Xi deserves respect is a fool. It deserves utter and complete contempt.
I don't begrudge the Chinese people trying to raise their standard of living but when it comes from complete theft that is contemptible. China has prospered because the west has undercut it's own values and moved it's industrial base there, where the Chinese stole or copied all the intellectual property. China was a backward backwater before the west invested there, it has created very little on it's own so far. It's amazing how China's military jets are complete clones of western jets and came out of nowhere. From zero aviation industry to cutting edge stealth fighters - yeah sure China developed that itself. And pigs can fly too.
Kishore is great! I also love his book. The only thing I disagree is that the UK is Europe. It is not. The UK is part of the anglo saxon world that is so negative about China. Europe is much more positive about China.
Dear o me, Ronnie, you are telling lies again, there are no cartoons in Kishore's books. How could you understand ?
@@vinryan3267 I think you can't read!!! Get lost!!!
@@vinryan3267 you are wrong. Clearly, you have no idea what you are talking about. Keep trolling dimwit
As Singaporean we are proud of kishore...👍
Indeed, this host has the most balanced perspectives in asking questions n adding value to Kishore's narratives.. n his final words are indeed most needed in Western Thinking to realise China Rise is unstoppable... !
Kishore is one of the few most intelligent persons nowadays
Just because he is pro communist China?
@@donaldjoseph3903 Amen
He's an CCP apologists. Oh China wont do this & that like the idiot has a time machine.
Kishore don't die yet be healthy, he is one of the most balance ever know to man!
You sure?
You sure people who disagree with Kishore are all anti China (communist) and jealous of her economic success 😉? You sure Kishore is 100% right i his judgement on issues? You sure?
@@donaldjoseph3903 , he may not be 100% right, but overall his statements are mostly correct and I think not much can be argued with him.
He has a chip on both shoulders
@@vinryan3267 He has no chip on his shoulders. Professor Mabuhbani was born in Singapore of Indian ethnicity. He got his advanced education in Canada. He is always grateful for his Western education. In fact, he said that the West has gifted the world with its accountable governance, science, etc. He means that despite the negative side of western colonization. The world has advanced for the better.
Mr. Kishore Mahbubani is a GEM in this troubled world of lies and propaganda!
He is one of the few TRUE INTELLECTUALS!
You have my utmost RESPECT! 👍
In that case, your respect is worthless. Respect ahs to be earned, what have you done that earns the respect of Kishore, the obsequious warbler ?
Kishore make this speech at the UN infront of US and other western countries.
Let them get it into their heads
Not sure if the message will penetrate their thick skulls.
Before they consider what bring told, they will ask if your govt wants to cancel the arm deals and support for status in SEA.
Actually the host is excellent. He asks all the right questions by highlighting the western shortcomings to allow Kishore the opportunity to explain the situation to a neophyte.
All credit goes to Kishorse
👍 great video 👍
All YOUR credit might go to him. He won't lie awake awaiting it, though.
Amazing insight. If we have more politicians like Kishore, the world will be a much better place.
It's only amazing because it's what he knows you'll want to hear. Smart Kishore, dumb SI Ly.
Wonderful Kishore. Brilliant. The US should take note of his message!
Excellent ,thought provoking discussion with strategic thinking and profound sense of global political, economic and social realities . Professor kishore , Our world needs people like you to educate public the current geo political realities. THANK YOU.
kishore Mahbubani is a real great thinker and scholar, a man with broaden views of the world ,my deepest respect to him !
what Kishore stated at the beginning were not only what CHINA want as a nation, but also every Chinese want , time will speak for us, yes indeed China will keep growing no matter how many criticisms wanted to restrict us from doing so.
I wish the US could demonstrate a bit of humility to take on board some sound advice from somebody of goodwill and a clearer mind.
Wish granted, Cheah. Read history, you'll find that USA granted your wish 250 years ago.
A good lesson Kishore taught the interviewer very skillfully without hurting his western ego too much.
Mr. Mahbubani has given such a clear, incisive analysis of the US China situation. The west needs to listen to this great diplomat!
Civilised people always listen to others, even when they speak nonssense.
The american interviewer are bias and it is natural. But he didn't try to push some typical American narrative. And for that, he deserves a thumb up.
With world leaders like Kishore the world will be peaceful, prosper and develop.
Kishore is not a political leader . He is a political historian and analyst.
@@JonSnow-pi6jb and with a world view that borders on Appeasement. He advocates India and Vietnam accepting China's land grabs on their respective border and islands and the World accepting China's commandeering of the South China Sea and enter into alliances with China. Appeasement didn't work well in 1938. He also promotes the "return" of the old world order of China dominating world economies, that current dominance of the West is a aberration. He ignores that nothing lasts forever and that change is inevitable. An interesting point of view but too simplistic, however not too simplistic for so many respondents in these threads, it's just w hat they want to hear, they love it.
I appreciate the fact the host just stay quiet most of the time and let the guest elaborate his points.
Grapes are sour for imperialists US/UK/Australia.
US and / or Australia imperialist ? Explain how or what makes you accuse those countries of imperialism? If you can't, undertake to apologise to both. Are you as stupid as Ronnie Chen or QL ? Do you also write stupid things ?
@@vinryan3267 Listen F*kFace, Read history !! The imperialist UK colonized, plundered the world and exported criminals/outlaws to US/Canada/Australia who are now part of same family of bullies.
@@vka3 Thankyou for you courteous and considered response, V A. It's pleasure to respond to a considered, calm and non-abusive post. It's even better if the response is sensible and takes into account context. So I respond...oh
@@vinryan3267 I thought V A's response was fair considering your rude rebuttal. Is is so easy for the west to forget their own history when criticizing others.
@@HKChineseCanadian Go back and read the thread, KKCC, all that was criticised was the mindless and ignorant initiating slogan which initiated the thread. Your 'Is' (sic) is so easy for the west to forget their own history... ' is an odd response.
Kishore is the man!!!
A rare host that respects the different opinions/views of his guest. Give credit where credit is due.
Credit ? where is it 'due' ? Isn't this bloke a charleton who preaches to an audience, not what he believes, but what he thinks they want to hear ? Like you ? If he'd concluded that China should tread carefully because sSe is breaking international laws, would you be as excited ?
He's a China apologist. That's another way of saying "idiot'', isn't it ?
He is working for peace. But another Singapore ex-diplomat is working hard to fan hatred and stir for conflicts for the region.
I think Kishore is telling westerner again and again that you should predict the future by learning the history. But westerner almost never learn the Asian history or Chinese history.
Kishore is a shining beacon of hope and rationality!
What ? Do you read 'Dolly' 'cosmogirl'
Agree with the final words from the host, hopefully someone is listening to this interview. Kishore is such a scholar of wisdom
Mr. Kishore by nationality he is a Singaporean, by race he is a Indian descendant. His views and forward looking and far-sightedness
in the world is impartial, non prujudice but only in the name of well-being of the world based on figures and facts. No lies, fancy or imagination.
I wonder what you would think if he concluded that China was an irresponsible world citizen and a danger to world peace ?
@@vinryan3267 just concluded without basis is something only fool will be mad. The reality s something you must learn from Mr. Kishore otherwise Harry and Tom also can make a conclusion.
@@skchew2213 I acknowledge that English is not your first language and that your English is better than my Mandarin but what on earth is that supposed to mean ? The idea of posting is to communicate, I have no idea what you mean,
American used to do many great things like Chinese does today. but many todays American just sit there complain whoever work better than them. stop complain, open eyes and go to work, that is the way to make US great again.
Kishore is absolutely right in every aspect.
Kishore Mahbubani deserves a dozen Nobel prices.
He won't get one, let alone a dozen, unless you are the judge, of course.
Asia and SEA have very prudent and smart statesmen - one of which is Prof. KISHORE. We are all very proud of you.
The worry for Professor Kishore is that approval of his dicta is only from apparently Asian contributors and uninformed and hubristic at that.
@@vinryan3267 No worries Vin, Prof Kishore is a very famous personality and also a very sort after speaker in the West due to the few famous books he wrote.
@@yongkomo1860 Thankyou, Yong, for your courteous reply. Can I assume that you are an Australian Citizen/resident, educated in Australia or an avid watcher of "Neighbours" ?
@@vinryan3267 My pleasure, Vin. I'm from SEA (South East Asia) and would say very aware of what's happening around here and overseas. Had visited about half of China (including Xinjiang) during my work assignments there for many years. That really opened my eyes.
Are western countries still capable of listening to others?
Only if others are on their knees and accepting Western hegemony, otherwise no.
qzhang25. What on earth is that supposed to mean ? Western Countries, assuming you mean Western Europe, Northern America and Australasia, have not only listened to the rest of the World but have done all they can to improve the lot of the impoverished of Asia and Africa. They accept refugees from the excesses of the leaders of the various of Asian and African countries. The World is awash with refugees from poverty, terror, discrimination, persecution. NONE of those refugees are from western countries. Doesn't that tell you something ? Instead of whingeing about western countries, get off your backside and do something in your own back yard about achieving freedom and prosperity for your country, the other Asian and African countries.
@@vinryan3267 since you talk about refuge, I guess you know most refuges come from countries where USA and NATO invaded and interfered, from ex-colonies. Now USA wants Asian countries to take side, guess how they will choose?
@@qzhang25 Genuine refugees usually come from countries with authoritarian and oppressive governments and which carry out atrocities against hteir citizens, usually on ethnic or tribal grounds, Myanmar, Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, Vietnam, Cambodia, Syria, Somalia, Rawanda etc. Your first post is just a thoughtless anti western slogan, your second no better. All the world's problems are the fault of the West, no analysis, no thought, no logic, just slogans.
@@vinryan3267 Who is authorized to judge if a country is authoritarian and subject to destruction? And refuge is the direct result of the USA & Nato interference, agree?
Some truths. That has clearly said the Boys club need to know how deal with Asian countries
Invest in China and emerging markets in 2021 :)
Kishore is the direct student of Singapore's 3 founding fathers, he understand the insight
Respect Asian!
Why ? Respect has to be earned, can you explain what Asians have done that earn respect ? What is it that makes respect for Asians different from respect for everyone ? It's just a slogan, anyway, isn't it ? Do you have any idea what you are talking about ? Stick to cheap slogans.
@@vinryan3267 you should ask what have you done to keep Asian under your feet, African under your neck chains, Mexican under your butt, middle eastern under your gun point Yea, You indeed done a lot to earn respect.
Only thinker can speak as Kishore did.
or someone who knows how to tell his audience what they want to hear.
great video.
Kishore is sharp minded.I wish there were more like him. Thank you , Kishore.
Kishore, you explain to these western audience and intelligentsia the best that you could for how long?But over the years, did they even heed some advice from you? No, they just do it their way, with no finesse, no strategies and just ugly actions. And they still think they hold the moral compass of the world, that they have great’ values’ and assumed that theirs are the universal ‘ values’! What audacity! Don’t you think?
Except that the only one reading/hearing Kishore are those, like you, who listen to him. He only tells you what you want to hear. Nobody else bothers.
@@vinryan3267
Nah, I don’t follow the crowd. I have my own mind. If there is a scale, I agree to 9/10 of the things he said.
@@user-nq2sw6sg8q Good man (?), Bill Smith (I'm still at AZ ure in Mandarin Class, Builklk is a good bloke, you'll benefit from the association. The French have an apt word for crowd, "foule", say it out loud and it sounds like an English word that I hope won't apply to you, as long as you stop saying silly things. If you agree with 9/10th of what Carleton Kishore says then all that will save your credibility is that you are still in that kindergarten class. In Nomine Patri, et Flio Sancti, et .......................................
Kishore is a wise man. You should have a speech in US Capital Hill
Mr Kishore Mahbubani you are 👍👍👍👏👏👏
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You're right ma,,
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Kisore you'll make a great Leader off the United Nations you have so much wisdom in this troubled world.
Prof Kishore....great analysis and advice but sad to say, you are "throwing pearls to swines..." Top American policy makers will scoff at your opinion and ask themselves...."Who is this man from Singapore to tell us what we should do...?" America is the greatest nation on earth...Surely he cannot be smarter than us?
Great analysis as long as you agree with it. If he advised differently, you'd insult him.
Clashes of the powerful, that is always human nature. No can change that nature. Let nature develops on its own. When things played out, there will be leadership with insights, and things will go back to normal. The cycle then restarts, only by different players and in a different way.
I have even less of an idea of what you mean than you do, gobbledegook
I hope someone is listening.
Happy Chinese New Year !
New year , New hope !
Thankyou Whiterabbit. I'm reminded that 11 months ago, the Chinese New Year was celebrated. I've heard that Wuhan was locked down for all except those who wanted to travel abroad. What have you heard ?
Hello, Whiterabbit, are you still alive or do you live in Wuhan and have either died or aren't allowed to leave. Remember, you miust preserve what the Party wants.
Talk about Australia. If you want respect, you should respect China, too, and not be a blind Lapdog of US by attacking China.
'blind lapdog' ? Could you explain what you mean by that, or is it yet another ill mannered, gratuitous insult ?
@@vinryan3267 that means be a Blind follower without making use of the brain to think first
@@yongkomo1860 ah, so the latter, yet another ill mannered, gratuitous insult
Think a little deeper Sam. Australia astrides both East and west. Our immigration is primarily Asian and Pacific, not European. We have vast wealth in natural resources. China looms as the great new superpower to dominate the Asia Pacific. Its activities are not all benign. The future of our region is inexorably linked to the whim of Chinese leadership. That is Australia's difficult position.
@@rikukoskela2791 A calm and balanced response. You remind us to be civil.
Sensible and smart thinking
Excellent analysis of the geopolitical situation. Great thinker
Good interviews and dialogues. If both sides are listening, peace and collaboration can be achieved.
but only if they adhere to the 'surrender to CCP China without a fight' mantra, eh ?
Very smart man
Well say Kishor,sadly this jokers who interviewed you can not absorb.They did not understand Newton 's 3rd law.Make this the last interview by them.
The difference in cultures between the US and China is the following metaphor:
The US takes an orange, cuts it in half, and uses both sides to juice it until it is dry discarding afterwards. The Chinese takes an orange and study to try find solutions to grow an orange grove to become a partner. In both situations people are the oranges.
Excellent podcast! A must listening...
Peaceful prosperous world beginning with talking out differences.
this host is a bit ignorant. Please show a bit sincerity to learn from Kishore Mahbubani.
are you sure that the interviewer is ignorent. On an objective note, the landlord looks very shaky. Alley
attached to which were out of control but not when I was around. Be good, Children.
@@vinryan3267 LOL&^%$#^&^$%%^$$%^
@@stevenhuang4193 Time to pack up your toys and go to bed, Andrew. Good night.
@@vinryan3267 what a dumb fool from your front and rear!
@@stevenhuang4193 The role of an interviewer is to extract information from and test the interviewee, not to learn from, in this case, him. This particular interviewer extracted a very pro China response, I'd have thought you'd be happy with that.
What is interesting in Kishore Mahubabani's geopolitical analysis is its deep understanding of the strategic interests of different national formations from their different points of view -- in relation to a global system of unequal and hierarchical interstate relations.
There are a few things wrong with India, and one is the caste system. That's no. 1. No. 2, how would the white ppl feel about the centuries of humiliation if they were the ones who suffered the insults from the Chinese? But no, it would never happen the other way around. It's not in the Chinese DNA; reciprocity, as the Chinese usually say, " what you do not wish upon yourself, do not do to others". No. 3, to paraphrase Xi, "if China becomes super power and bullies the world, she will fail coz the Chinese people and the whole world would topple her."
You can call Kishore as Lee Kuan Yew reincarnate.
executing and theory is 2 different thing.
LKY was a brilliant leader, while Kishore (with all due respect) is just a non biased scholar.
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Insightful... talk.. objective and not biased like some of those people with preset prejudices....
Lets look at the numbers.
01. USA debt right now is 27.8 trillion. In the USA, experts predict the debt of the USA will be five times its economy by 2070 and that is a conservative estimation. So for example, if the USA economy is 50 trillion by 2070 its debt will be 250 trillion. How are you going to grow?
02. China will have about 600 to 800 million middle class - a huge consumer base in 10 years.
03. China is finally opening its financial markets to the world - a 45 trillion financial market and could be 80-100 trillion by 2030.
04. China's economy is to surpass the USA in 6 years at the quickest or 8 years at a conservative rate. But more importantly, its PPP will double the USA which just means its purchasing power will double the USA. Its economy is already bigger than the USA since 2014 by PPP terms.
What does that mean (PPP)?
If you extract the price based on the living costs in each country and give USA a value of 1, then here are the numbers.
GDP For 2019
USA = 21.7 trillion
China = 14.7 trillion
PPP for 2019
USA = 21.7 trillion
China = 27.1 trillion
It just basically means that based on the living costs in China overall and if the Chinese RMB is given the ratio to the dollar based on the prices in China, the Chinese economy would be worth 27.1 trillion. It means 1 dollar in China goes way further than in the USA under normal circumstances.
Top 4 economies by GDP - 2019
01. USA
02. China
03. Japan
04. India
Top 4 economies by PPP - 2019
01. China
02. USA
03. India
04. Japan
05. China has 7-8 of the world's largest bank - USA has 1.
06. China has 3.4 trillion in reserves - USA has none (living on printed money)
07. China has the most trading partners.
08. Chinese has the most companies in the top 500 in the world.
Four main things China is going to really concentrate on even though there are hundreds.
01. Poverty Alleviation - Based on the UN standard for poverty alleviation China has successfully raised over 800 million Chinese out of poverty in the end of 2020 - a journey of 40 years . More people with money means stronger country.
02. Technology leader by 2025 in core technologies and more after that.
03. Most powerful military - by 2035 China will be the number 1 military power.
04. BSN - the Blockchain System Network - The number one goal of this system is to replace the dollar as the world reserve currency, therefore, ending the dominance of the dollar and the final dagger in the USA. This will end the printing of money by USA whenever it wanted. The Swift system for international trade controlled by the USA will be reduce significantly - reducing the power of the dollar.
Like Elon Musk said, China will be at least twice the USA economy but it can be four times bigger. The gap is too big for the USA to overcome.
Get use to the original order of dominance - China and India number 1 and 2 by 2050.
By 2050
China economy = USA + EU + Canada + UK + Australia
China/India = 46-50% of total World GDP
We are going back to history. Lets face it. whether you believe or not or like it or not its not going to change history.
GET USE TO A NEW WORLD ORDER SOON (10 YEARS).
Kishore Mahbubani
i like that the interviewer bring up australia, however china did not initial the attack on australia, australia target china first. if you punch tyson, you really can't blame if tyson decide to punch you back. there is in fact alot of debate and discussion as to why australia did this, and alot of people blame US for it, but actually it has little to do with US.
it has more to do with Australia interpretation of Chinese interest. Australia and China does not have a direct border, Australia's border are with ASEAN, and if one see the future projection of growth, it is very likely ASEAN would be more important than Australia. and if China become the hegemon of the region, by no ill will of China, China will likely side with ASEAN in any disagreemment since ASEAN is more important economically then Australia... so Australia believe their interest would be sideline in an Asia Pacific that is Asia centric. so they are really creating this problem to push US toward confrontation with China so they would at least have US as a backer.
China understand this, which is why they choose to punish Australia.
Yes. We are listening loud and clear. Thank you.
Well said Kishore!!!
13:40 US wants a peaceful prosperous world 🤣 That's a first
Why sneer, Ronnie ? Pax Americana has operated since 1945. Since 1972, the greatest beneficiary of the World Order guaranteed by the US, has been China. Its admirable rise from extreme poverty, Mao induced but that's another argument, is directly attributable to the encouragement of the US, its tolerance of unfair trading practices and access to its market to Chinese industry.
@@vinryan3267 Unfair in what sense?
@@ronniechew6566 Good question, Ronnie. Requirements that Western businesses wanting to set up in China release intellectual property to Government, requirement that they have Chinese Government appointed partners, preferment of Chinese interests over 'foreign' interests in disputes, tariffs, dumping, subsidizing domestic companies to permit undercutting competitors, manipulating currency levels to obtain unfair price advantages in foreign economies, 'theft' of intellectual property, government complicity in ignoring direct copying of technology. These were tolerated by western countries, particularly the US, in the expectation that China would become democratic as its standards of living rose and would then become a better world citizen.
@@vinryan3267 Those companies wanting to come in for cheap labor to make more profits did agree to the terms of shared technology which China paid for in the hundreds of millions per tech. It really is not infringement of intellectual property when there are consent from those profit hungry corporations wanting a big slice of China's consumer market and better profits from Americans consumers. They didn't sell their products any cheaper despite making it cheaper in China. China have their own way of democracy. It's a socialist democracy with a mix a capitalism and other ingredients added in that works in China. It may not work in other countries so they will have to experiment and take the good and throw the bad away which China did. American democracy actually works for the top 1% but never for the people. Chinese government works for the people to make their lives better. That's a governance that everyone in the world would prefer. You should learn how they do it and compare with democracies all over the world on their own ways. I do notice that the American way is failing their own people and if your are in America you should be able to see the difference and disparity from the haves and the have nots very clearly. In my country Malaysia which is a democracy, politicians struggle for power not for the people but for themselves. Since independance in 1957 the former government has been in power for 61 years and have been racially dividing the 3 main races of Malay, Chinese and Indians and getting rich robbing the country until 2018 when the people finally voted them out and a new government (former opposition) took over albeit a short 2 years when some traitors became frogs and the old regime retook the country and made a mockery of it. Now we are waiting for the next election to vote them out again. We got to choose who represents us in all levels of government while the American way can only choose a Republican or Democrat president. Only 2 choices. I actually prefer Bernie Sanders but.....
@@ronniechew6566 Greetings, fellow Commonwealthian, a response to the level I'd have expected had I known
That’s globalisation. The same thing happened to Japan after WW11. It prospered because it offered cheap labour and was sponsored by the US. In the 1960s, Japan was Australia’s biggest trading partner. The cost of living in Japan reached Western proportions, it could not maintain the cheap labour advantage so it moved its industry into South East Asia and became more service oriented. I would ordinarily expect that China will do the same but its authoritarian government, confrontational attitude and sheer size of population are something I’ve never seen before.
I’m keeping out of Communism/Socialism v Capitalism and Racism. Nobody wins those debates, let alone converts.
Don’t be too hard on the US. Europe, Asia, northern Africa were a mess in 1946. The 2 Americas and Australia were virtually untouched The (North) Americans had been drawn into 2 World Wars in the previous 25 years, they didn’t want a third so they occupied both Germany (which they should have done after WW1) and Japan, installed democratic governments, ensured their prosperity. Put aside your chauvinism (i e leave China out), both now respectively dominate Europe and Asia economically and politically and both are forces for peace in their regions. The US doesn’t start wars, it enters into wars because it has so many allies and an inclination to defend those who can’t defend themselves. North Korea and North Vietnam invaded, the Balkans went to war among themselves until NATO, really US and UK, intervened, Iraq and Afghanistan were errors, shouldn’t have but part of their motivation was to protect civilians against extreme Islamic groups, ditto Somalia, how could you let that level of genocide continue ?
Prof Kishore, do you think the West owes China an apology for the humiliation of a 100 years and they should also compensate China for the unequal treaty as well as for the ruins of the Summer Palace and to return all the antiques stolen from them?
The hidden question is really whether the west is willing to share it’s power with the rising china and accept the fact that their idea of western democracy may not be the universal system for all prosperous countries. As long as the answer is a NO, the geopolitical conflict is inevitable.
Kishore Mahbubani is highly respected as a brilliant modern-day philosopher. His insights and views on world affairs are truthful, compelling and unbiased. Kishore writes and speaks his mind without fear or favour, notably his incisive criticism of America and some Western countries for their anti-China posture and activities. So far Kishore has been proven correct in his views on the unstoppable rise of China and the failure of the West to face reality. America and th West are sleeping while China has been building a Brave New World. The 21st century belongs to China whether you like it or not!
Multipolar world is the best thing for humanity .These videos are really of great educational value in understanding the world.
I strongly agree with the Singaporean
He did up his shoelace at one stage. Is that what you are going to manage ?
Americans will do well to listen to kishore
The number one priority of the US is to improve the well being of its cooperations.
The number 1 priority of the US government is to look after it's citizens, Number 2 is to ensure that the rest of the World is treated fairly and not bullied. She looks after both. It is only those who benefit from authoritarian bullying, like CCP China and its sycophants who criticise the US. Are you one of those ?
Kishore Mahbubani is a Hero to many, including me. Respect !
Potentially significant, Chart, why is he a hero ?
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He is one of the most intelligent and respected person of our time. In his career, he has held many important positions and represented Singapore as Singapore Ambassador to the UN and many Professorships in China and the Dean of Lee Kuan Yu School at Singapore University.
Search for his many excellent views that were recorded on Yuotube
@@charttrakarn3438 Fair answer, Chart, if I may presume to use your first name. Singapore is a City-State that I admire, it straddles a fine line between accomadation with an oppressive, potential invader and the status of the invaded, it will follow Taiwan. There's lots I don't admire about Singapore, its authoritarianism, but I live where Singapore's tensions are academic. for mine, Kishore is far too anti US in the way he expresses himself. He speaks of CCP led china as deserving of understanding then of the US and being ignorant of Asian sensibilities, boorish and on a downward path, economically. By so doing, he justifies the false proposition that the US and other western countries oppress China, when, they, particularly the US, endorse and trade with China. The US freed China from Japanese rule and actively promote Chinese economic advancement. Kishore justifies Chinese aggression instead of promoting peaceful engagement. From a Singaporean point of view, I concede his eloquence and exposure but from the World's perspective, he's a danger to peace.
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I believe Dr. Kishore Mahbubani has been trying to be the bridge of understanding between China and the West, nothing else.
In fact, China has been good and loyal ally of the US, except during the Korean War.
Even during the Vietnam War, China was secret ally of the US fighting against Soviet Unions and her ally, North Vietnam.
In 1978, when the US suddenly changed her foreign policy against China, China was shocked and many US College Alumni could not believe it. Because both China and her people looked at US as their leader that they owned so much and did not forget.
The voice from China, no matter how they had tried to call for continuing friendship had been ignored and getting more hostile instead.
You can see a lot of Fake News, accusations starting from Hong Kong, Tibet and Xinjiang. Together with all kinds of Propaganda and all Armadas from the West intimidate China regularly in South China Sea.
Another thing is Corvid-19 that happened in Wuhan, but did not originate in Wuhan.
When it first happened, the Japanese doctor and Taiwanese doctors came out and defended China. They said it happened in Wuhan, China but did not originate in China.
Later on, the US CDC Director, Washington DC., Robert A. Redfield, MD.
gave a testify to the Senate on March 20, 2020, the Senate Members asked him “ in Spring of 2019, there were over 20,000 deaths from Flu and respiratory related disease in Maryland, N. Carolina and Virginia, could some of those died from Corvid-19?
His answer is Yes.
The first victim of Corvid-19 in Wuhan, China happened in December 2020, 9-10 months after the US. The recent investigation in Wuhan by the WHO team has not concluded yet, but the US and her allies already beat the drum.
At the end, Dr. Kishore Mahbubani just tries his best to smooth the misunderstanding between China and the US plus.
Will anyone accept it, that is another story?
@@charttrakarn3438 I responded a while back, Chart but can't see my response. In brief, CCP led China sent 320,000 troops into North Vietnam, 4,000 died in combat. It supplied equipment and support of USD20 mil. 1978 was the year the US recognised the Chinese Communist Government. Attitudes toward China in the US, and other western countries, improved, the direct opposite of your claim. There's more in the earlier post, you may locate it, I can't.
As a Chinese, I don't logically get why the century of humiliation from 1840s to 1940s has to stand out in Chinese history. Was it really worse than the Manchu invasion, the Mongol invasion, and many other devastating internal turmoils that wiped out majority of the population in Chinese history.
I honestly think that was also the century of enlightenment, for both capitalism and communism.
The whole world is now on equal footing in terms of modern science and technology. And China is holding an edge over other countries including the US in terms of average IQ and work ethics of its population.
every president of Singapore are wise guys.
Deng Xiaoping said 人不犯我，我不犯人。。若人犯我，我必犯人。。you consider me as enemy then I am enemy to you !!!
I can't find any instance of Deng ever saying that. You just made that up. The Global Times publishes it, though. Isn't a better Deng quote "China is not a superpower, nor will she ever seek to be one... If one day China should change her color and turn into a superpower, if she too should play the tyrant in the world, and everywhere subject others to her bullying, aggression and exploitation, the people of the world should identify her as social-imperialist, expose it, oppose it and work together with the Chinese people to overthrow".
Dr. Mahbubani: The new humiliation is on the way! US, Australia, Britain, French, Germany joined with Japan and send the warships to Chinese doorstep to say "Hello" to Chinese people and show their muscles with a joint naval exercise these couple of weeks (02/2021 - 03/2021). The Asian Era you expected won't come peacefully and smoothly.
New humiliation ? What is the old humiliation ? If you are talking about occupation, then isn't the only humiliation that of occupation by Japan (and Mongolia but that's a different story) ? 'Century of humiliation' is an invention of the CCP to trick the citizens of China to overlook its perfidy. The US does not claim The Atlantic or the Pacific Oceans as its own. Australia does not claim the Pacific or the Indian Oceans as its own. Britain does not claim the Atlantic as its own. None of Germany, France or Japan claim any seaway as their own. All want free and unimpeded oceans for passage by the world's citizens, including CCP led China. None are threatening wars, none say 'make xxxxxx an enemy and xxxx will be your enemy. None are saying "...won't come peacefully and smoothly."
@Vin Ryan Let me hazard to reply you on this most famously known "Century of humiliation" narrative. This narrative was so widely accepted even within the high officials of Singapura Foreign Affairs Ministry. That the so-called "Humiliation" inflicted on the Qing Dynasty during the ransacked of the Yuan Ming Yuen is purely a superior Western Allied forces against a weak Qing Army. The reality is the opposite. But they conveniently twist the narrative around and play victim until today. Just like those BLM and leftist playing victim role in US.
With the "seed" planted into the minds of every generation of mainland China no wonder hatred and envy against Western nations is ingrained into thier mind. All verbal outward pleasantries can never hide their true emotion.
@@malayaharimau Thankyou for your insight. If you are in Singapore, you are closer to the issue than me and what you write looks genuine. I've long regarded the "100 years humiliation" as an exercise in crowd control by the CCP Hitler employed the same trick, Germany, the Master Race, was betrayed in WW 1 and would redress the wrong inflicted at Versailles.
@@vinryan3267 The only reason I get familiar with this is because of frequent encounter with CCP Red Guards debating on this matter. Upon investigating their source of reference, I realized all this is rooted on what is generalized in thier Baidu (Google equivalent) Baike ( Wikipedia equivalent) on the "Eight nation Alliance". Just a comparison between the Wikipedia and Baike on one specific historical incidence reveal the vast difference of the cause and consequences of the event. So I realized how masterful is the CCP is using all past events to re-narrate it to support the Party cause.
@@malayaharimau Thankyou
MH, that might explain why some of the material is so absurd. No doubt some posters receive their information from Baike, manipulated by the CCP. That probably explains it.
China doesn’t want to be a superpower like the US but respect she deserves. Is that too much to ask of the West?
Wise thinking
What is important is the Chinese' perception of their government, not what the others perceive China to be. Just like the US perceived Iraq to have WMDs but when in reality there was none. The US should stay away from others' affairs. Why judge another country based on your biases and hearsay?
What happens if the Chinese perception of their Government is that it should be replaced ? Where do Chinese citizens go then ? If the US had stayed out of Japanese affairs in 1942, where would you, yes, you, be now ? Mainland China would still be controlled by Japan. Instead of criticising the US, you should be thanking it.
@@vinryan3267 China belongs to the Chinese citizens. They do not need Japan or the west to control them. And by the way, thanks for the opium which was forced on the Chinese too.
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@@vinryan3267 I am a second generation Chinese Malaysian. The Chinese are capable enough of changing their government without any interference from the US. Chinese are just as smart, if not smarter than the Americans. Please take care of your own backyard first, with US leading in the number of Covid19 deaths. Do you really care about the Chinese or you just want to topple the CPC? If you care about the Chinese, do something about the increasing anti-Asian attacks in the US. If you just want to topple the CPC, then I suggest it is not your concern. Do not poke your nose into another sovereign country's internal affairs.
@@MegaSuehan Citizens in democracies regularly change governments. The Governments serve the people. It's harder in autocracies but it can still occur, off hand, I can't think of it happeneing very ofter, perhaps the eastern bloc countries in the 1980s ? The US has no interest in interfering with the citizens of China, what makes you think it does ? Do you think that the US wants to invade China ? The US would much prefer to trade than invade. I have no interest in what the Chinese people do, as long as China is a good world citizen. Your views are too simplistic
Volcano took times to prepare before it explore. Don't try to rise the sleeping volcano because you maybe unable to face the consequences.
America is a still big power but more and more of it's citizens suffering ! What is it for their life?
Look into a video on a musician playing piano close to some cattle grazing in the field.... and how the cattle gather around the pianist, apparently trying to understand the "music"!! We pray the USA and The West will learn from the cattle when looking at and hearing the voices from China.
Such wise talk 👏👏👏