Book Talk: Party Life - Chinese Governance and the World Beyond Liberalism
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2024
- Book synopsis: The emergence of China as a great power is perhaps the most consequential development for the world in the 21st century. Yet, what the Western world sees in this development is largely through the prism of misinterpreted ideological dichotomy and misguided geopolitical rivalry.
This book offers a deep look at the Chinese Communist Party and the nation it leads at conceptual, historic, and operational levels. If Thomas Kuhn’s concept of paradigm shift can be used in the social sciences, then China would represent the most significant anomaly to the dominant liberal exemplar. Through Party Life, Li aims to help students of China and of politics in general - as well as the Western political and commercial elites alike - to better grasp the nature and weight of the Chinese phenomenon.
Q&A moderated by FCC Correspondent Board Member Karen Koh.
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People with good values, a critical thinking, knows history, has common sense, and a right mind, ... will AGREE with Eric 99% of what he says.
Can’t agree with you more. Dr. Li was a Stanford product, but he out grew them. That’s how awesome he is.
She is a typical, blinkered Western journalist.
@@rebeccachan3405Unfortunately journalism in English speaking countries are not only captured by US culture but often managed by US agents.
Dr. Li is awesome ❤
@@parttimethinker7611？。
Eric Li is amazing !
Is this what success looks like in the world's most powerful and richest country? Economic inequality, inflation, stagnant real wages for the last fifty years, costly healthcare, an expensive education system, student loan debt totaling $1.7 trillion with an average balance of $38,000, poor public transportation systems, racial inequality, mass incarceration, the militarization of police, deteriorating infrastructure, housing affordability, homelessness, the opioid epidemic, and gun violence.
Instead of prioritizing the welfare of their people, they meddle in other countries to spread their version of democracy. The question is whether the USA can continue to survive with its version of democracy, not whether it can have any leadership role in the global order.
The basis of Western democracy is that people within a country are divided into parties with different ideologies, interests, and policies to compete against each other in a winner-take-all contest to determine who will govern the country for a period of time. Groups and institutions spend more time and resources competing against each other, rather than making long-term plans to improve their country. One party's national development plans, infrastructure projects, and policies are undone and reversed by the next party. This wastes resources and impedes progress because long-term plans cannot be implemented.
In China, the people cannot change their government, but they can change the government policies. In the West, the people can change their government, but they cannot change the government policies. In the US, the wealthy dictate (through lobbying and political donations) government policies. In China, the wealthy have no special say in government policies.
The Chinese system has no checks and balances. If a govt. goes wrong, things can tirn tragic. 1949 to 1976 under Mao, China had man made famines and killings of dissidents. 70 million died, a lot them due to starvation. If you think that CCP is a better system, think again. In my opinion, XI Jin Ping is leading them down a rabbit hole. Time will tell.
Wealthy has equal say as common people.
@@DankelkarFamine was due to sanctions after devastating Colonialism and wars. Afghans would have also face famine if not for aid from China after the USA left and stole its reserve.
@@QuietJagung True
@@DankelkarThere were 8 famines in China during Colonialism. Famine was a recurring feature in British India.
Eric li is awesome. Thanks for sharing him with us.
If you invite a guest to a talk, you should not say things like "I don't agree with your...". It is an invitation to talk, not a debate.
She was paid to say that
@@sjwprc5911It's her job as a western journalist to question
What time mark?
@@Andy-Pfirst, she is not a western journalist, second you are not sincere if you ask a question for which you’ve already made up your mind of what is the answer is like this woman did. She tried to debate Eric Li but failed miserably.
@@koujhgloup She didn't fail. If you are going to buy a property or make an investment you would want to know as much information as possible - Eric says no who is a venture capitalist. I would get everyone who thinks the CCP is benign to watch this interview. CCP sources will say what the CCP want you to hear. I'll give eric is due the first part where he just talked about China was credable. Saying censorship is a better way of being informed? I think there is a war coming as China tries to control the narrative by controlling the worlds media
I like Eric a lot who is a sincere thinker and a man with real wisdom.
When a government aims to improve the lives of its working people, the large majority, those who make the wealth, it will earn its people's trust and love. As far as the people are concerned, that is Democracy in its authentic form. It's the dictatorship of the proletariat, not the dictatorship of the Capitalist class.
💯 Never before has such astute truth been spoken.
@@platosbeard4449 ♥
In this video: Eric talks to people who still watch CNN.
Haha. Like that moderator.
This guy Eric is right in so many things and he is pretty based as well. Unfortunately his audiences (here) still have the colonialized mindset. It will take couple of generations totally not under British rule before many Hong Kong people can think beyond the Anglosphere.
Love to listen to Mr. Li
Always learn something, correct some concept or the other
Gratitude 🙏
Glad to watch Eric Li again
Eric's responses were brilliant and candid. Enjoyed the conversation a lot!😊
Eric Li, we missed you, been long since I last show an amazing video of yours
We are seeing more and more quality opinions and comments coming from HK/SG, those readings UK/US really have a hard time catching up.
This lady host raised her questions with her hidden hostilities against China, like her club colleagues. Eric did return her foolishness with his true knowledge, smartness and calm.
old video. eric gave them the smackdown
Eric Li is brilliant as always. Don’t think much of Karen Koh. Quite ignorant of China.
Karen's tone towards Eric was disrespectful, impolite, and unrefined. Her behavior suggested that she considered herself above everyone else.
@@cocoanutte She is a typical KAREN 😜
She thinks too highly of herself, and is disdain of China.
China did not create the demographic. Granted, China did not get it right, so did many countries like Singapore. People don’t want to have family/children is common over all the world as the economy develop. Do not blame the CPC, things are usually more complex than that. Karen’s hate for China and CPC is not helping.
Woman…”We may not agreed”…😂😂😂 she doesn’t need to agree, the fact is the world is changing to a multipolar world. there you have it. 😂
Who are the poles in this new order China, America and who else?
@@Andy-PRussia is another pole. They are in an equal mutually beneficial partnership with the Chinese, because their economies are complementary.
totally agree with eric
Impossible for anyone, not even Eric, to predict who will come up on top, US or China. The best anyone can do is judge on real time, which government is looking after its citizens welfare n what’s good for the country.
I can't predict whether China will come out on top or not, but I CAN predict that the current USA will NEVER come out on top of this struggle. No drug-addicted, overstretched empire can remain at the top. The USA will need very fundamental changes (as profound as those that Russia had gone through after the USSR broke up) to not entirely crumble down as a country.
I can predict that the USA in its current capitalist form will never come up top in this struggle of political economy ideologies. Indeed it has already lost and, barring a proletarian revolution, it is destined for the museum of history.
@@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 Totally agree with you, but it is impossible because of the US Constitution; which most Americans seems to think is a tablet of stone handed down by God.
Eric Li👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏
REPORT CARD SAYS IT ALL!! KEEP ON GOING WITH CONFIDENT!!
i voted for justin trudeau, i REGRET very much, but remembering who else we had, he was at the time, best candidate imo what a shame! to have to pick from all these bad apples
Karen, it is not too late to learn. Be humble, learn. Please!
46:00 - the demographics problem is - in my opinion - overblown. The entire world (including developing countries such as India) are on a trend towards declining demographics, the PRC is hardly alone in that area. Demographics is more of a demand-side problem rather than a supply side problem. AI & automation will be more than enough to offset the shrinking workforce, the problem will be the availability of demand - the stagnating population needs to have sufficient income to be able to consume all the products that are manufactured by automated enterprises. Again, this is a global problem that's independent of systems of government, & hardly unique to "authoritarian" China.
Mr. Li sings the praise for the CCP governace that enabled miraculous economic development convincingly. America's liberal capitalism has reached a stagnation due to extreme inequality, its middle class had shrunk to the benefit of the top 1%; and nearly 20% of its population without food and shelter.
He is a wiseman!
Thanks for sharing this event. It’s always good to hear from Mr. Eric Li ❤
23:00 - "Generally speaking, when people have access to reliable, checkable, transparent information, they make better decisions..." I agree with this statement by the moderator IN THEORY, but her unstated assumption is that the so-called "free" press - as it currently exists in the US & the rest of the West - has ANY of those aforementioned characteristics. Anyone actually living in the West would tell you that the modern media in the West - be it mainstream OR alternative, has NOT by any stretch of the imagination "reliable, checkable, or transparent".
Moreover, I find the "free" press' ability to produce "reliable, checkable, & transparent" information highly suspect in the first place, even at a theoretical level. If you have the freedom to say anything you want without the threat of an authority figure imposing some kind of consequence, where's the deterrence against telling lies or manipulative, misleading narratives? If anyone with enough money can pay propagandists to spin any narrative they want, how do you know the narrative they produce is "reliable, checkable, & transparent"? I'm certainly not suggesting that a centrally-controlled press is manipulation or propaganda-free, but the assertion that a "free" press (as it currently exists in the West) does an incrementally better job is not supported by the facts. If one looks at the Edelman Trust Barometer over the past decade, the public in so-called "free" countries have far lower trust in their own media than many of their counterparts in "authoritarian" countries.
Well said.
All countries have problems, the difference is good governments will tackle and solves these problems. Bad governments ignore them and let the people face them.
Like infrastructures it regulates and direct mass transport on delineated routes. You can get to San Francisco any ways and vehicles but unregulated the mixed usage will create chaos and interference that is totally inefficient for humans and terraines.
This is sooo good. Eric is sharp as a blade as always. Truly enjoy every talk he had.
There is also one democratic country in Southeast Asia that succeeded. That's Singapore. It's an autocratic society and controls the press. It works very well.
Singapore is not democratic.
@@IsYourMediaFake what do you mean? It’s got elections.
Why did you delete the original video and reupload this one?
Recooked fried rice ain't that bad the second time.
Eric Li is insightful, knowledgeable and offers us a multi country perspective from his own experiences across the US and China. He has really helped me appreciate that there are other (better) approaches to governance and we should drop the Western arrogance and listen and learn. The next 20 years belong to the Global South malnly due to China's strength and success and their desire for mutually beneficial collaborations.. Wonderful discussion and Eric seems like a decent bloke too.
What a balanced person
Thank you Eric Li 👏👏👏
So touched by the lady’s questions. She is so “concerned” about China. 😢😅
She should visit China and see 😂😂😂
It's all semantics and journalists are good at it. That is why they are journalists and not philosophers.
But it is a big jump from journalism to philosophies. When a journalist philosophizes, it is usually because he/she counts themselves above mundane reality, and have therefore anointed themselves arbitrators, if not masters, of truth.
Freedom of express is a good thing untill it bought by money and politisised. Every system and freedom are weak for corruption unless there have a strong justice sentiments and will power to correct the weak point collectively.
Why was the video deleted? It had many views and comments already…
Between the two seemingly opposing poles of China and the USA lies a multitude of possibilities. A blended mix of both poles adjusted for the situation of each nation would surface. Either pole tends towards extremes that amplify human troubles. Starting in the middle would be a good position. Each pole are directions and not end goals.
Eric is smart guy
In China, one is absolutely free to support Russia or Ukraine, Palestine or Israel. Try to do the same in the US and see what happens to your job, to your reputation, to your safety
Eric Li 👍👍👍
real insights - check and balance can add to corruption
Good insights, Eric Li is a very sharp guy. However, he didn't answer the question on how could China solve the bad emperor problem (one party state with no rule of laws and inability of people to change the government peacefully through free and fair elections). I truly want to know his view on that. As an example, China suffered greatly under Chairman Mao's "great leap forward" and "cultural revolution". Luckily, Chairman Mao died before he could continue those dangerous initiatives that could practically destroy China.
Scholar Eric , thank you.
The lady's body shows her disagreement ?
Antonio Gramsci's 'interregnum' that Eric refers to while relevant and pertinent, it is better thought of as the present period between the death of a unipolar world order that has failed to adapt, and it's replacement with a more adaptable emerging multipolar world order.
No responsibled goverment will regulate free speeches, free Informations , etc, if it deemed fit & do no harm to the country & societies in the sense it raises anxieties. Becos it does no harm therefore deemed not necessary.
But, if it is harming, then it is the goverment's resposibility to handle it. Becos, being a resposibled goverment so to say. Meaning, if the speeches, informations are good, doing no harm certainly no goverment would regulate it or simply it need no objections.
In the case of Covid deaths, how much figure will justify the reality on the ground. Somehow , free speach, free reporting will always views it from biase optic. Figures small or big or free speeches are threatening but actions solve it.
To control & regulated the facts & follow with thorough actions to overcome the problems is entirely different from hidden/falsifying the facts & sweeps the problem under the carpets. China was the former kind. If you can remember, a country with free speeches, free informations, the Covid deaths toll was over 200 thousands.
So clearly, what you need is not free speeches, informations, etc, but the actions followed.
I doubt if any data of Covid-19 is accurate in the any country on this planet. Just look at the askew from stifling hysteria and blaming other countries.
Chinese governance under Xi Jinping's leadership is very unique . They have superb missions and have proven their far-sighted , result-oriented , pragmatic , innovative , people's welfare features ....
Other than millionaires, I'm not sure who else will buy Mr Li's book. Amazon lists it at £100 hardback.
请问你有中文频道吗
Thinking about buying an EV or Hybrid vehicle , certain restrictions on EV for under-capacity in the electric grid here . Hybrid would suit me fine bringing my personal carbon footprint to only 25% of my actual CO2 emissions.
Karen Koh: Why doesn't China act in a manner consistent with civilized nations in this situation?
The host, Karen Koh, expresses her superior and patronizing opinions of China.
The patience and wisdom of Eric Li are worthy of admiration and respect.
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You have to keep in mind it is a hybrid system., but it is simple....nothing the world has ever seem before........the state handles industries that make citizens lives better..ie electricity, infrastructure, roads, schools, healthcare, housing,and other mainstay industries only for citizens, and has opened other industries to capitalists...difference is capitalists won't have control over the government like they do in the West..it is a hybrid system..you have to be honest about what they have done..it is remarkable......a great feat..if you look at it objectively.
What is the background of Karen Kho?
Special PA of an Angmo.
I believe it would be ignorant Western propagandist
Such uninformed questioning, those mean figures are just trendlines and not all clusters hit the mean exactly. Classical stereotyping speech freedom that's only 15% accurate.
The lady host seems not very impressed with Eric.
Alibaba and Jack Ma is old technology, there are new technologies from China. XJP is clamping down Jack Ma for different reasons. XJP is protecting China’s economy. And China needs new technologies
I thought China’s long term plan is strategic and has helped the country to move forward.
Well, that's not to say that Jack Ma wouldn't benefit from the new arrangement, but certainly they are not going to let his companies dictate the direction of the country moving forward.
Another perspective from Australia, New Zealand and the US "UA-camrs": 1. ua-cam.com/video/VP_SpW-DyQg/v-deo.htmlsi=N11wHZEkY-j9lGoD
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Reupload because most yellow-skinned people left critical feedback on the interviewer in the comments section?
Are you white skinned person.yiu sound very racist
31:00 - the questioner appears to operate under the assumption that multi-billionaires should somehow have unconstrained freedom to create wealth (mostly for themselves, naturally), & if they're "taken down a peg" in any way or any circumstance, that would somehow "destroy" innovation. That seems like a very extreme neo-liberal view of the world. Let's say a billionaire is prevented from making his 30th, 50th, or 100th billion dollars due to the problematic public impact of his wealth creation, is that REALLY going to disincentivize others from striving to create wealth? Can anyone find me an earnest entrepreneur out there that says "since the networth of Bill Gates, or Jack Ma, or Elon Musk is limited to 'only' $50, or $100, or $150, or $XXX billions of dollars, the game is 'rigged' & I'm not going to even try to make my 1st billion or 1st million"?
Free speech can be good but it's easily tinged with misinformation and bias.
Somebody help Karen Kho. A disgrace to her ancestors.
Interesting that Mr. Lee has become a venture "socialist" now instead of a "venture capitalist." He knows that he must tow the CPC's line promoting "order" over "prosperity." Of course, many at the FCC Hong Kong are nervous about expressing their views out of fear of repression by the government. It's only natural. But I generally agree with his view on the importance of 'order' .
Incorrect.
@@IsYourMediaFake Questioning the speaker's views is not 'impolite.' It is what should be normal in a healthy government and state. Obviously, you live in fear of your government so don't even understand the concept.
he lost the narrative when the host checked him on covid censorship lol. dude was stumbling.
This guy is good.
I am sure whoever named Eric is a smart man
Great talk by Eric Li (shame he was interviewed by a Karen).
Eris does not need to sound combative. He is not making much sense.
There's No Smart Politicians(But CORRUPTED)in America........But Only Stupid Scientist/Advisors who followed them...😢😢😢 48:14
There's No Smart 6:07 CORRUPTED)in America........But Only Stupid Scientist/Advisors who followed them...😢😢😢 6:01 6:02
Who is Jaren Goh.
She is a poor interviewer!
This man is trying to answer but keeps repeating, 'this is a fact' when it is not established as a fact. Not only that, a fact can be a manipulation of information, so it is a 'fixed' fact.
The host’s attitude is toxic. She should be impartial, balanced and stay neutral.
I disagree, I think the host should push back and argue with Eric, because you can learn a lot more - if Eric answer all tough questions, you learn even more than if he just talk and no one questions him
Disappointing to hear this Singaporean asked this low level question. So un-informed. Poor guy.
She Malaysian😂
ERic's response to questions on free specch was not pursasive and not convincing.
Also, democracy is not about giving you the "best" government. Even the purest democratic state would result in poor outcomes - because "The People" as a whole, can make errors. Democracy is about PREVENTING the WORST outcome - that is, a Hitler or a Stalin, arising and massacring its own people. That's what democracy is about - the government has limits on its power, and the leader has limits on their powers and how long they can stay in power. That way, even if a very bad man gets into power, they won't stay forever. The damage, will, hopefully, be limited without the need for a violent uprising.
In China's situation - who can challenge Xi? He's leader-for-life. He can do ANYTHING he wants. Well, say you like Xi. Say you think he should be leader for life. What about the next guy? Will you like him as much as Xi? Will he be as smart as Xi? Will he be as capable as Xi?
Of course, democratically elected leaders are, also, not perfect. Just look at Trump, for god's sake. He's awful. But note - he is no longer President. Even if, god forbid, he becomes President again, he's limited to only four years. Then he will leave.
if a bad man gets a hold of China's top position, will anyone challenge him or force him to leave? I doubt they'd be able to.
You can rightly point to a lot of the failings of the West - god knows there's a lot of problems with the West. But I can criticise my Prime Minister without fear. I can disagree with his policies. I can recognise that he is human, and flawed. I don't have to read a book he wrote for social credit. I don't have to pretend his "thought" is some sort of super-philosophy that I must follow. Can those in China do the same? And if you disagree, I invite you to walk into any public space in China, and openly, publicly, disagree about a SINGLE THING your President Xi has done. Will you dare do it? No, you won't. You have to pretend he is a God - and you know damn well he is not.
U just described a bunch of problems that took place in the west, not so much in china in this moment.
Go live and work in China for 20 years. Then maybe you are qualified to talk about CPC.
You just took the CIA kool aid. China is not a dictatorship or one-man rule, it is always a party rule. Once Xi starts not delivering, he is out of there. He was reelected because he was delivering. The assembly also voted to remove the term limit because they wanted him to continue, of course this will also apply to them when they become the president. America calls him a dictator to mudsling him, PERIOD.
Germany have no term limits for their leader. The US up until Franklin Roosevelt (a Democrat) was elected to four terms.
You really have to learn how the Chinese governing system(s) functions my friend.
1.4 billion Chinese will challenge XI. Dynasties had fallen because of bad governance. Your Western mind is a one-way traffic . Democracy is the best, full stop.
The questions lack self examination
Who you want to listen, listen to stealers decided.pay money to stealers to get relationship, listen to stealers to get future big problems with trouble life . looks be carefully on all the world to do and think . Don't makes lost my times again and again for nothing finally ..
China innovation u ain't seen nothing yet. Even though already exceeded America in speed