Eric Li is insightful, knowledgeable and offers us a multi country perspective from his own experiences across the US and China. He has really helped me appreciate that there are other (better) approaches to governance and we should drop the Western arrogance and listen and learn. The next 20 years belong to the Global South malnly due to China's strength and success and their desire for mutually beneficial collaborations.. Wonderful discussion and Eric seems like a decent bloke too.
This guy Eric is right in so many things and he is pretty based as well. Unfortunately his audiences (here) still have the colonialized mindset. It will take couple of generations totally not under British rule before many Hong Kong people can think beyond the Anglosphere.
Yes sure, Eric is fantastic in expalining why China is a all-round winner, he explains it so well that even enti-Chinese hater are changing their outlook on China
When a government aims to improve the lives of its working people, the large majority, those who make the wealth, it will earn its people's trust and love. As far as the people are concerned, that is Democracy in its authentic form. It's the dictatorship of the proletariat, not the dictatorship of the Capitalist class.
In chinese philosophy, the emperor's right to reign is determined by the mandate of heaven. Unlike in the west, where kings had the divine right to rule regardless of their performance. China has had the concept of meritocracy for millenia
Is this what success looks like in the world's most powerful and richest country? Economic inequality, inflation, stagnant real wages for the last fifty years, costly healthcare, an expensive education system, student loan debt totaling $1.7 trillion with an average balance of $38,000, poor public transportation systems, racial inequality, mass incarceration, the militarization of police, deteriorating infrastructure, housing affordability, homelessness, the opioid epidemic, and gun violence. Instead of prioritizing the welfare of their people, they meddle in other countries to spread their version of democracy. The question is whether the USA can continue to survive with its version of democracy, not whether it can have any leadership role in the global order. The basis of Western democracy is that people within a country are divided into parties with different ideologies, interests, and policies to compete against each other in a winner-take-all contest to determine who will govern the country for a period of time. Groups and institutions spend more time and resources competing against each other, rather than making long-term plans to improve their country. One party's national development plans, infrastructure projects, and policies are undone and reversed by the next party. This wastes resources and impedes progress because long-term plans cannot be implemented. In China, the people cannot change their government, but they can change the government policies. In the West, the people can change their government, but they cannot change the government policies. In the US, the wealthy dictate (through lobbying and political donations) government policies. In China, the wealthy have no special say in government policies.
The Chinese system has no checks and balances. If a govt. goes wrong, things can tirn tragic. 1949 to 1976 under Mao, China had man made famines and killings of dissidents. 70 million died, a lot them due to starvation. If you think that CCP is a better system, think again. In my opinion, XI Jin Ping is leading them down a rabbit hole. Time will tell.
@@DankelkarFamine was due to sanctions after devastating Colonialism and wars. Afghans would have also face famine if not for aid from China after the USA left and stole its reserve.
In China, one is absolutely free to support Russia or Ukraine, Palestine or Israel. Try to do the same in the US and see what happens to your job, to your reputation, to your safety
China did not create the demographic. Granted, China did not get it right, so did many countries like Singapore. People don’t want to have family/children is common over all the world as the economy develop. Do not blame the CPC, things are usually more complex than that. Karen’s hate for China and CPC is not helping.
Karen Koh: Why doesn't China act in a manner consistent with civilized nations in this situation? The host, Karen Koh, expresses her superior and patronizing opinions of China. The patience and wisdom of Eric Li are worthy of admiration and respect.
@@Andy-Pfirst, she is not a western journalist, second you are not sincere if you ask a question for which you’ve already made up your mind of what is the answer is like this woman did. She tried to debate Eric Li but failed miserably.
@@koujhgloup She didn't fail. If you are going to buy a property or make an investment you would want to know as much information as possible - Eric says no who is a venture capitalist. I would get everyone who thinks the CCP is benign to watch this interview. CCP sources will say what the CCP want you to hear. I'll give eric is due the first part where he just talked about China was credable. Saying censorship is a better way of being informed? I think there is a war coming as China tries to control the narrative by controlling the worlds media
All countries have problems, the difference is good governments will tackle and solves these problems. Bad governments ignore them and let the people face them.
Impossible for anyone, not even Eric, to predict who will come up on top, US or China. The best anyone can do is judge on real time, which government is looking after its citizens welfare n what’s good for the country.
I can't predict whether China will come out on top or not, but I CAN predict that the current USA will NEVER come out on top of this struggle. No drug-addicted, overstretched empire can remain at the top. The USA will need very fundamental changes (as profound as those that Russia had gone through after the USSR broke up) to not entirely crumble down as a country.
I can predict that the USA in its current capitalist form will never come up top in this struggle of political economy ideologies. Indeed it has already lost and, barring a proletarian revolution, it is destined for the museum of history.
@@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 Totally agree with you, but it is impossible because of the US Constitution; which most Americans seems to think is a tablet of stone handed down by God.
Mr. Li sings the praise for the CCP governace that enabled miraculous economic development convincingly. America's liberal capitalism has reached a stagnation due to extreme inequality, its middle class had shrunk to the benefit of the top 1%; and nearly 20% of its population without food and shelter.
He does sing the praises, and good will come of it. About the percentages - they are disheartening of course - even without seeing the comperable comparison.
i voted for justin trudeau, i REGRET very much, but remembering who else we had, he was at the time, best candidate imo what a shame! to have to pick from all these bad apples
23:00 - "Generally speaking, when people have access to reliable, checkable, transparent information, they make better decisions..." I agree with this statement by the moderator IN THEORY, but her unstated assumption is that the so-called "free" press - as it currently exists in the US & the rest of the West - has ANY of those aforementioned characteristics. Anyone actually living in the West would tell you that the modern media in the West - be it mainstream OR alternative, has NOT by any stretch of the imagination "reliable, checkable, or transparent". Moreover, I find the "free" press' ability to produce "reliable, checkable, & transparent" information highly suspect in the first place, even at a theoretical level. If you have the freedom to say anything you want without the threat of an authority figure imposing some kind of consequence, where's the deterrence against telling lies or manipulative, misleading narratives? If anyone with enough money can pay propagandists to spin any narrative they want, how do you know the narrative they produce is "reliable, checkable, & transparent"? I'm certainly not suggesting that a centrally-controlled press is manipulation or propaganda-free, but the assertion that a "free" press (as it currently exists in the West) does an incrementally better job is not supported by the facts. If one looks at the Edelman Trust Barometer over the past decade, the public in so-called "free" countries have far lower trust in their own media than many of their counterparts in "authoritarian" countries.
Very good. I’ll add a psychology perspective: most people don’t care so much about facts and truth. They say they do, but they care more about seeing what they like, and people like what agrees with whatever they already think. These are written in psychology and neuroscience textbooks. So it doesn’t take much to engineer how people think. You only need to plant a seed, even with made up stories. The stories can be debunked later, but the positions will stay in people’s heads. The rest of the story can be filled by postulation now.
Eric Li is intelligent and articulate. No one on today's political stage can debate with him because he is fact-based and speaks the truth. Unfortunately, most people cannot handle the truth because they have been emotionally manipulated their whole lives and refuse to see the truth.
Like infrastructures it regulates and direct mass transport on delineated routes. You can get to San Francisco any ways and vehicles but unregulated the mixed usage will create chaos and interference that is totally inefficient for humans and terraines.
Chinese governance under Xi Jinping's leadership is very unique . They have superb missions and have proven their far-sighted , result-oriented , pragmatic , innovative , people's welfare features ....
Chinese culture, deeply influenced by Confucianism, places a strong emphasis on social harmony and the collective well-being of society. Confucianism advocates for moral development, respect for authority, and the importance of family and societal roles. The emphasis on social harmony is reflected in the prioritization of community and societal stability over individual freedoms. In Confucian thought, the self is understood in relation to others and the larger society. Personal behavior and ethical conduct are seen as crucial for maintaining social harmony. This cultural perspective can be seen in how China approaches governance and societal organization, where the interests of the collective often take precedence over individual rights. This Confucian emphasis on social harmony contributes to the Chinese government's approach to free speech and expression. The government tends to regulate and control public discourse to avoid social unrest and maintain stability. This approach is rooted in the belief that unrestricted freedom of speech can lead to disorder and conflict, which would disrupt the harmony of society. Therefore, while the Chinese Constitution does mention freedoms such as speech and assembly, these rights are exercised within the framework of maintaining social order and harmony, reflecting the influence of Confucian values on Chinese governance and culture.
22:10 The prospectus was accurate. If one adopted the US Constitution line by line, they would live like Americans - ruled by plutocrats backed by an unhinged, unethical and illegitimate Supreme Court (that unilaterally decided the presidential election in 2000). They would have a culture of uncontrolled narcissism, dysfunctional institutions, high levels of animosity, needless competition, with piss-poor education, civics, health care, infrastructure. Thankfully the leadership of China knew better than to buy in, but chose to continue to craft their own way.
Freedom of express is a good thing untill it bought by money and politisised. Every system and freedom are weak for corruption unless there have a strong justice sentiments and will power to correct the weak point collectively.
It's all semantics and journalists are good at it. That is why they are journalists and not philosophers. But it is a big jump from journalism to philosophies. When a journalist philosophizes, it is usually because he/she counts themselves above mundane reality, and have therefore anointed themselves arbitrators, if not masters, of truth.
The lady host seems not very impressed with Eric. Alibaba and Jack Ma is old technology, there are new technologies from China. XJP is clamping down Jack Ma for different reasons. XJP is protecting China’s economy. And China needs new technologies I thought China’s long term plan is strategic and has helped the country to move forward.
Well, that's not to say that Jack Ma wouldn't benefit from the new arrangement, but certainly they are not going to let his companies dictate the direction of the country moving forward.
46:00 - the demographics problem is - in my opinion - overblown. The entire world (including developing countries such as India) are on a trend towards declining demographics, the PRC is hardly alone in that area. Demographics is more of a demand-side problem rather than a supply side problem. AI & automation will be more than enough to offset the shrinking workforce, the problem will be the availability of demand - the stagnating population needs to have sufficient income to be able to consume all the products that are manufactured by automated enterprises. Again, this is a global problem that's independent of systems of government, & hardly unique to "authoritarian" China.
What good is free speech if the political system fails to take care of its citizens? Has free speech fixed the numerous domestic problems that afflict the United States (such as homelessness, gun violence, poor health care, poor education, crumbling infrastructure, drug addiction, mass incarceration, growing poverty, political turmoil, etc.)? How has free speech addressed the economic and social chaos in Britain and France and Germany? It seems to me that the FCC is very ideological and much less pragmatic. At any rate, free speech is illusory. It doesn't *really* exist in the West. We punish free speech in many different ways, for example, cancelling or censoring people who speak out against Ukraine and Israel, who support the Palestinians in Gaza.
There is also one democratic country in Southeast Asia that succeeded. That's Singapore. It's an autocratic society and controls the press. It works very well.
When the environment is dangerous a closed system arises. When the environment is carefree an open system thrives. China is in the former. Strong and effective leadership matters.
Since 1990, China has faced one major challenge after another. It has overcome them all. Since 1990, the West has predicted the collapse of China, annually. Year after year, it has been proven wrong. Today, the West continues to underestimate China. Yes, China faces new challenges but they are not intractable. I have no doubt China will overcome them, too.
With the dawn of the internet, where actual happenings are instantaneous (with pictures) most traditional (even modern) press people have been reduced to just story telling (more sensational better) in order to just survive to say the least. My view.
Eric handled moderator’s question about the value for people's access to free press seems a bit off-track and defensive. The moderator, and most Western journalists, obviously assume that there's no access to free press in China, which is quite ridiculous. In fact, the opposite is true. The regular American, or Westerners in general, have been kept only access to the heavily censored and biased media like CNN and BBC, which Trump famously called them Fake News.
No responsibled goverment will regulate free speeches, free Informations , etc, if it deemed fit & do no harm to the country & societies in the sense it raises anxieties. Becos it does no harm therefore deemed not necessary. But, if it is harming, then it is the goverment's resposibility to handle it. Becos, being a resposibled goverment so to say. Meaning, if the speeches, informations are good, doing no harm certainly no goverment would regulate it or simply it need no objections. In the case of Covid deaths, how much figure will justify the reality on the ground. Somehow , free speach, free reporting will always views it from biase optic. Figures small or big or free speeches are threatening but actions solve it. To control & regulated the facts & follow with thorough actions to overcome the problems is entirely different from hidden/falsifying the facts & sweeps the problem under the carpets. China was the former kind. If you can remember, a country with free speeches, free informations, the Covid deaths toll was over 200 thousands. So clearly, what you need is not free speeches, informations, etc, but the actions followed.
I doubt if any data of Covid-19 is accurate in the any country on this planet. Just look at the askew from stifling hysteria and blaming other countries.
Between the two seemingly opposing poles of China and the USA lies a multitude of possibilities. A blended mix of both poles adjusted for the situation of each nation would surface. Either pole tends towards extremes that amplify human troubles. Starting in the middle would be a good position. Each pole are directions and not end goals.
Antonio Gramsci's 'interregnum' that Eric refers to while relevant and pertinent, it is better thought of as the present period between the death of a unipolar world order that has failed to adapt, and it's replacement with a more adaptable emerging multipolar world order.
Eric Li makes a convincing case backed up by facts & figures. His replies are cogent and good-humoured. Karen Koh, on the other hand, is close-minded and hopelessly biased - a sad ABC pathetically clinging on to the sacred cows of Western political philosophy in the face of inconvenient facts to the contrary.
Look, suppose she is a journalist, or one of the “foreign correspondents” based in Hong Kong. Journalism is political by nature, and as a journalist, you have to be on the right side of politics, not necessarily of history. She’s just doing her job, right?
@@kenh4681 Valid argument but can you not see the personal bias within her? It's subjective but if you've met these kinds of people before, it should be obvious. Anyway, time will tell who is right. I bet on the Multi-Polar World and China along with Russia and Iran being the pillars of BRICS+.
3 or 4 decades ago, Western press was pretty much criticising and laughing at Singapore's system for the same thing....lack of freedom the press, "dictorial rule", authoritarianism etc.
Such uninformed questioning, those mean figures are just trendlines and not all clusters hit the mean exactly. Classical stereotyping speech freedom that's only 15% accurate.
The furore over Ms Cheng exemplifies the difficulties journalists face in the city. It ranked 135th out of 180 jurisdictions in the latest World Press Freedom Index by Reporters Without Borders-down from 18th in its first report in 2002. Still far freer than the mainland’s, Hong Kong’s once-lively press has been muzzled by the revival of the colonial-era charge of sedition and two national-security laws. The second of these, known as Article 23, was introduced in March, and has not been used against journalists yet. But both are vague, probably by design: the idea is the press should err on the side of caution rather than risk crossing a blurry line. The worry is that, if even the most powerful global media companies fear being tainted by mere association with press unions, a culture of self-censorship will prevail. Those laws might rarely even need to be invoked. At odds with the authorities since the crackdown, the hkja and similarly minded groups may end up silenced by pressure from their own members.
12.40 Yes 240million people lifted out of poverty is no small feat. Hope he is appointed an adviser for PRC government for economic development and FDI
This man is trying to answer but keeps repeating, 'this is a fact' when it is not established as a fact. Not only that, a fact can be a manipulation of information, so it is a 'fixed' fact.
Thinking about buying an EV or Hybrid vehicle , certain restrictions on EV for under-capacity in the electric grid here . Hybrid would suit me fine bringing my personal carbon footprint to only 25% of my actual CO2 emissions.
What I think Eric is trying to say about the principle of the freedom of press is a Human creation that is based on our cultures and traditions but it's not "scientific based" as in whether you are Chinese or British or Inca or Persian or even E.T 1+1=2 there is no other way around it.
You have to keep in mind it is a hybrid system., but it is simple....nothing the world has ever seem before........the state handles industries that make citizens lives better..ie electricity, infrastructure, roads, schools, healthcare, housing,and other mainstay industries only for citizens, and has opened other industries to capitalists...difference is capitalists won't have control over the government like they do in the West..it is a hybrid system..you have to be honest about what they have done..it is remarkable......a great feat..if you look at it objectively.
Eric bring alot of very interesting points, but unfortunatly the interviewer approached the situation with a closed mind and an attacking attitude on China's political policies, rather than engage in a conversation with Eric she did a disservice to herself by speaking to Eric as if he was a policy maker. Would have loved to hear Eric engage futher dialogue about the future of China, rather than a debate between Eastern and Western values. Go back to Eric's Ted talk from 11 years ago and you will know that his viewpoint is that each culture will do that is best for themselves. That is not to say one way is the grand scheme that will work for everyone.
Another perspective from Australia, New Zealand and the US "UA-camrs": 1. ua-cam.com/video/VP_SpW-DyQg/v-deo.htmlsi=N11wHZEkY-j9lGoD 2.ua-cam.com/video/KZAx8bJkruU/v-deo.htmlsi=xV0-z_OHEJjy5bYD 3.ua-cam.com/video/ui-RHPIcaa0/v-deo.htmlsi=i88ZDF6P2GwXioaY
Interesting that Mr. Lee has become a venture "socialist" now instead of a "venture capitalist." He knows that he must tow the CPC's line promoting "order" over "prosperity." Of course, many at the FCC Hong Kong are nervous about expressing their views out of fear of repression by the government. It's only natural. But I generally agree with his view on the importance of 'order' .
@@AntiwarObserver Questioning the speaker's views is not 'impolite.' It is what should be normal in a healthy government and state. Obviously, you live in fear of your government so don't even understand the concept.
31:00 - the questioner appears to operate under the assumption that multi-billionaires should somehow have unconstrained freedom to create wealth (mostly for themselves, naturally), & if they're "taken down a peg" in any way or any circumstance, that would somehow "destroy" innovation. That seems like a very extreme neo-liberal view of the world. Let's say a billionaire is prevented from making his 30th, 50th, or 100th billion dollars due to the problematic public impact of his wealth creation, is that REALLY going to disincentivize others from striving to create wealth? Can anyone find me an earnest entrepreneur out there that says "since the networth of Bill Gates, or Jack Ma, or Elon Musk is limited to 'only' $50, or $100, or $150, or $XXX billions of dollars, the game is 'rigged' & I'm not going to even try to make my 1st billion or 1st million"?
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People with good values, a critical thinking, knows history, has common sense, and a right mind, ... will AGREE with Eric 99% of what he says.
Can’t agree with you more. Dr. Li was a Stanford product, but he out grew them. That’s how awesome he is.
She is a typical, blinkered Western journalist.
@@rebeccachan3405Unfortunately journalism in English speaking countries are not only captured by US culture but often managed by US agents.
Dr. Li is awesome ❤
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I like Eric a lot who is a sincere thinker and a man with real wisdom.
Eric li is awesome. Thanks for sharing him with us.
Eric Li is amazing !
Eric's responses were brilliant and candid. Enjoyed the conversation a lot!😊
Love to listen to Mr. Li
Always learn something, correct some concept or the other
Gratitude 🙏
Eric Li is brilliant. He is a critical thinker and explains ideas with historical knowledge and current data. Bravo!
Eric Li is insightful, knowledgeable and offers us a multi country perspective from his own experiences across the US and China. He has really helped me appreciate that there are other (better) approaches to governance and we should drop the Western arrogance and listen and learn. The next 20 years belong to the Global South malnly due to China's strength and success and their desire for mutually beneficial collaborations.. Wonderful discussion and Eric seems like a decent bloke too.
Chinese political system is not the best nor perfect but it works for the Chinese people. The progress of the last five decades is undeniable.
This guy Eric is right in so many things and he is pretty based as well. Unfortunately his audiences (here) still have the colonialized mindset. It will take couple of generations totally not under British rule before many Hong Kong people can think beyond the Anglosphere.
Eric Li, we missed you, been long since I last show an amazing video of yours
Yes sure, Eric is fantastic in expalining why China is a all-round winner, he explains it so well that even enti-Chinese hater are changing their outlook on China
When a government aims to improve the lives of its working people, the large majority, those who make the wealth, it will earn its people's trust and love. As far as the people are concerned, that is Democracy in its authentic form. It's the dictatorship of the proletariat, not the dictatorship of the Capitalist class.
💯 Never before has such astute truth been spoken.
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In chinese philosophy, the emperor's right to reign is determined by the mandate of heaven. Unlike in the west, where kings had the divine right to rule regardless of their performance. China has had the concept of meritocracy for millenia
Is this what success looks like in the world's most powerful and richest country? Economic inequality, inflation, stagnant real wages for the last fifty years, costly healthcare, an expensive education system, student loan debt totaling $1.7 trillion with an average balance of $38,000, poor public transportation systems, racial inequality, mass incarceration, the militarization of police, deteriorating infrastructure, housing affordability, homelessness, the opioid epidemic, and gun violence.
Instead of prioritizing the welfare of their people, they meddle in other countries to spread their version of democracy. The question is whether the USA can continue to survive with its version of democracy, not whether it can have any leadership role in the global order.
The basis of Western democracy is that people within a country are divided into parties with different ideologies, interests, and policies to compete against each other in a winner-take-all contest to determine who will govern the country for a period of time. Groups and institutions spend more time and resources competing against each other, rather than making long-term plans to improve their country. One party's national development plans, infrastructure projects, and policies are undone and reversed by the next party. This wastes resources and impedes progress because long-term plans cannot be implemented.
In China, the people cannot change their government, but they can change the government policies. In the West, the people can change their government, but they cannot change the government policies. In the US, the wealthy dictate (through lobbying and political donations) government policies. In China, the wealthy have no special say in government policies.
The Chinese system has no checks and balances. If a govt. goes wrong, things can tirn tragic. 1949 to 1976 under Mao, China had man made famines and killings of dissidents. 70 million died, a lot them due to starvation. If you think that CCP is a better system, think again. In my opinion, XI Jin Ping is leading them down a rabbit hole. Time will tell.
Wealthy has equal say as common people.
@@DankelkarFamine was due to sanctions after devastating Colonialism and wars. Afghans would have also face famine if not for aid from China after the USA left and stole its reserve.
@@QuietJugung True
@@DankelkarThere were 8 famines in China during Colonialism. Famine was a recurring feature in British India.
Glad to watch Eric Li again
This is sooo good. Eric is sharp as a blade as always. Truly enjoy every talk he had.
In China, one is absolutely free to support Russia or Ukraine, Palestine or Israel. Try to do the same in the US and see what happens to your job, to your reputation, to your safety
Eric Li is brilliant as always. Don’t think much of Karen Koh. Quite ignorant of China.
Karen's tone towards Eric was disrespectful, impolite, and unrefined. Her behavior suggested that she considered herself above everyone else.
@@cocoanutte She is a typical KAREN 😜
She thinks too highly of herself, and is disdain of China.
China did not create the demographic. Granted, China did not get it right, so did many countries like Singapore. People don’t want to have family/children is common over all the world as the economy develop. Do not blame the CPC, things are usually more complex than that. Karen’s hate for China and CPC is not helping.
Karen Koh: Why doesn't China act in a manner consistent with civilized nations in this situation?
The host, Karen Koh, expresses her superior and patronizing opinions of China.
The patience and wisdom of Eric Li are worthy of admiration and respect.
We are seeing more and more quality opinions and comments coming from HK/SG, those readings UK/US really have a hard time catching up.
In this video: Eric talks to people who still watch CNN.
Haha. Like that moderator.
plus... these guys only believe CNN BBC
@@rebeccachan3405lol, she watches BBC
Still watch cnn means likely fed up by some government agents.
Karen, it is not too late to learn. Be humble, learn. Please!
If you invite a guest to a talk, you should not say things like "I don't agree with your...". It is an invitation to talk, not a debate.
She was paid to say that
@@sjwprc5911It's her job as a western journalist to question
What time mark?
@@Andy-Pfirst, she is not a western journalist, second you are not sincere if you ask a question for which you’ve already made up your mind of what is the answer is like this woman did. She tried to debate Eric Li but failed miserably.
@@koujhgloup She didn't fail. If you are going to buy a property or make an investment you would want to know as much information as possible - Eric says no who is a venture capitalist. I would get everyone who thinks the CCP is benign to watch this interview. CCP sources will say what the CCP want you to hear. I'll give eric is due the first part where he just talked about China was credable. Saying censorship is a better way of being informed? I think there is a war coming as China tries to control the narrative by controlling the worlds media
Thanks for sharing this event. It’s always good to hear from Mr. Eric Li ❤
All countries have problems, the difference is good governments will tackle and solves these problems. Bad governments ignore them and let the people face them.
Woman…”We may not agreed”…😂😂😂 she doesn’t need to agree, the fact is the world is changing to a multipolar world. there you have it. 😂
Who are the poles in this new order China, America and who else?
@@Andy-PRussia is another pole. They are in an equal mutually beneficial partnership with the Chinese, because their economies are complementary.
She's brainwashed
@@jorjie8969 Far from it She is expressing non CCP approved opinions
Impossible for anyone, not even Eric, to predict who will come up on top, US or China. The best anyone can do is judge on real time, which government is looking after its citizens welfare n what’s good for the country.
I can't predict whether China will come out on top or not, but I CAN predict that the current USA will NEVER come out on top of this struggle. No drug-addicted, overstretched empire can remain at the top. The USA will need very fundamental changes (as profound as those that Russia had gone through after the USSR broke up) to not entirely crumble down as a country.
I can predict that the USA in its current capitalist form will never come up top in this struggle of political economy ideologies. Indeed it has already lost and, barring a proletarian revolution, it is destined for the museum of history.
@@Orwellian-Purple-Grapes-1984 Totally agree with you, but it is impossible because of the US Constitution; which most Americans seems to think is a tablet of stone handed down by God.
old video. eric gave them the smackdown
totally agree with eric
Mr. Li sings the praise for the CCP governace that enabled miraculous economic development convincingly. America's liberal capitalism has reached a stagnation due to extreme inequality, its middle class had shrunk to the benefit of the top 1%; and nearly 20% of its population without food and shelter.
He does sing the praises, and good will come of it. About the percentages - they are disheartening of course - even without seeing the comperable comparison.
i voted for justin trudeau, i REGRET very much, but remembering who else we had, he was at the time, best candidate imo what a shame! to have to pick from all these bad apples
23:00 - "Generally speaking, when people have access to reliable, checkable, transparent information, they make better decisions..." I agree with this statement by the moderator IN THEORY, but her unstated assumption is that the so-called "free" press - as it currently exists in the US & the rest of the West - has ANY of those aforementioned characteristics. Anyone actually living in the West would tell you that the modern media in the West - be it mainstream OR alternative, has NOT by any stretch of the imagination "reliable, checkable, or transparent".
Moreover, I find the "free" press' ability to produce "reliable, checkable, & transparent" information highly suspect in the first place, even at a theoretical level. If you have the freedom to say anything you want without the threat of an authority figure imposing some kind of consequence, where's the deterrence against telling lies or manipulative, misleading narratives? If anyone with enough money can pay propagandists to spin any narrative they want, how do you know the narrative they produce is "reliable, checkable, & transparent"? I'm certainly not suggesting that a centrally-controlled press is manipulation or propaganda-free, but the assertion that a "free" press (as it currently exists in the West) does an incrementally better job is not supported by the facts. If one looks at the Edelman Trust Barometer over the past decade, the public in so-called "free" countries have far lower trust in their own media than many of their counterparts in "authoritarian" countries.
Agree, 100%.
Very good. I’ll add a psychology perspective: most people don’t care so much about facts and truth. They say they do, but they care more about seeing what they like, and people like what agrees with whatever they already think. These are written in psychology and neuroscience textbooks. So it doesn’t take much to engineer how people think. You only need to plant a seed, even with made up stories. The stories can be debunked later, but the positions will stay in people’s heads. The rest of the story can be filled by postulation now.
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Totally agree!
The host is visibly angry at Eric mentioning America is doing worse, so fun to watch.
REPORT CARD SAYS IT ALL!! KEEP ON GOING WITH CONFIDENT!!
He is a wiseman!
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Eric Li is intelligent and articulate. No one on today's political stage can debate with him because he is fact-based and speaks the truth. Unfortunately, most people cannot handle the truth because they have been emotionally manipulated their whole lives and refuse to see the truth.
Like infrastructures it regulates and direct mass transport on delineated routes. You can get to San Francisco any ways and vehicles but unregulated the mixed usage will create chaos and interference that is totally inefficient for humans and terraines.
Eric is smart guy
Well said.
The lady's body shows her disagreement ?
Why did you delete the original video and reupload this one?
Recooked fried rice ain't that bad the second time.
Freedom of the press.
What a balanced person
Couldn’t agree more with Eric Lee about Free Speech in the case of Western media,Corporate and Public.
Why was the video deleted? It had many views and comments already…
Chinese governance under Xi Jinping's leadership is very unique . They have superb missions and have proven their far-sighted , result-oriented , pragmatic , innovative , people's welfare features ....
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Chinese culture, deeply influenced by Confucianism, places a strong emphasis on social harmony and the collective well-being of society. Confucianism advocates for moral development, respect for authority, and the importance of family and societal roles. The emphasis on social harmony is reflected in the prioritization of community and societal stability over individual freedoms.
In Confucian thought, the self is understood in relation to others and the larger society. Personal behavior and ethical conduct are seen as crucial for maintaining social harmony. This cultural perspective can be seen in how China approaches governance and societal organization, where the interests of the collective often take precedence over individual rights.
This Confucian emphasis on social harmony contributes to the Chinese government's approach to free speech and expression. The government tends to regulate and control public discourse to avoid social unrest and maintain stability. This approach is rooted in the belief that unrestricted freedom of speech can lead to disorder and conflict, which would disrupt the harmony of society.
Therefore, while the Chinese Constitution does mention freedoms such as speech and assembly, these rights are exercised within the framework of maintaining social order and harmony, reflecting the influence of Confucian values on Chinese governance and culture.
22:10 The prospectus was accurate. If one adopted the US Constitution line by line, they would live like Americans - ruled by plutocrats backed by an unhinged, unethical and illegitimate Supreme Court (that unilaterally decided the presidential election in 2000). They would have a culture of uncontrolled narcissism, dysfunctional institutions, high levels of animosity, needless competition, with piss-poor education, civics, health care, infrastructure.
Thankfully the leadership of China knew better than to buy in, but chose to continue to craft their own way.
So touched by the lady’s questions. She is so “concerned” about China. 😢😅
She should visit China and see 😂😂😂
She knows only what she is . spoond feed
Freedom of express is a good thing untill it bought by money and politisised. Every system and freedom are weak for corruption unless there have a strong justice sentiments and will power to correct the weak point collectively.
Love this slogan “elect and regret “ ,Eric is so right.
It's all semantics and journalists are good at it. That is why they are journalists and not philosophers.
But it is a big jump from journalism to philosophies. When a journalist philosophizes, it is usually because he/she counts themselves above mundane reality, and have therefore anointed themselves arbitrators, if not masters, of truth.
Eric Li is absolutely amazing
❤Thanks for sharing this b with us. I am Chinese but I still have a lot to learn about our government.
The lady host seems not very impressed with Eric.
Alibaba and Jack Ma is old technology, there are new technologies from China. XJP is clamping down Jack Ma for different reasons. XJP is protecting China’s economy. And China needs new technologies
I thought China’s long term plan is strategic and has helped the country to move forward.
Well, that's not to say that Jack Ma wouldn't benefit from the new arrangement, but certainly they are not going to let his companies dictate the direction of the country moving forward.
46:00 - the demographics problem is - in my opinion - overblown. The entire world (including developing countries such as India) are on a trend towards declining demographics, the PRC is hardly alone in that area. Demographics is more of a demand-side problem rather than a supply side problem. AI & automation will be more than enough to offset the shrinking workforce, the problem will be the availability of demand - the stagnating population needs to have sufficient income to be able to consume all the products that are manufactured by automated enterprises. Again, this is a global problem that's independent of systems of government, & hardly unique to "authoritarian" China.
I've already watched it! A great scholar indeed!
What good is free speech if the political system fails to take care of its citizens?
Has free speech fixed the numerous domestic problems that afflict the United States (such as homelessness, gun violence, poor health care, poor education, crumbling infrastructure, drug addiction, mass incarceration, growing poverty, political turmoil, etc.)?
How has free speech addressed the economic and social chaos in Britain and France and Germany?
It seems to me that the FCC is very ideological and much less pragmatic. At any rate, free speech is illusory. It doesn't *really* exist in the West. We punish free speech in many different ways, for example, cancelling or censoring people who speak out against Ukraine and Israel, who support the Palestinians in Gaza.
There is also one democratic country in Southeast Asia that succeeded. That's Singapore. It's an autocratic society and controls the press. It works very well.
Singapore is not democratic.
@@AntiwarObserver what do you mean? It’s got elections.
Scholar Eric , thank you.
real insights - check and balance can add to corruption
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It can even be legalised, and become intractable
Jia you Eric Li.
Great talk by Eric Li (shame he was interviewed by a Karen).
When the environment is dangerous a closed system arises. When the environment is carefree an open system thrives. China is in the former. Strong and effective leadership matters.
Since 1990, China has faced one major challenge after another. It has overcome them all.
Since 1990, the West has predicted the collapse of China, annually. Year after year, it has been proven wrong.
Today, the West continues to underestimate China. Yes, China faces new challenges but they are not intractable. I have no doubt China will overcome them, too.
This almost makes me homesick ❤
With the dawn of the internet, where actual happenings are instantaneous (with pictures) most traditional (even modern) press people have been reduced to just story telling (more sensational better) in order to just survive to say the least. My view.
Eric handled moderator’s question about the value for people's access to free press seems a bit off-track and defensive. The moderator, and most Western journalists, obviously assume that there's no access to free press in China, which is quite ridiculous. In fact, the opposite is true. The regular American, or Westerners in general, have been kept only access to the heavily censored and biased media like CNN and BBC, which Trump famously called them Fake News.
No responsibled goverment will regulate free speeches, free Informations , etc, if it deemed fit & do no harm to the country & societies in the sense it raises anxieties. Becos it does no harm therefore deemed not necessary.
But, if it is harming, then it is the goverment's resposibility to handle it. Becos, being a resposibled goverment so to say. Meaning, if the speeches, informations are good, doing no harm certainly no goverment would regulate it or simply it need no objections.
In the case of Covid deaths, how much figure will justify the reality on the ground. Somehow , free speach, free reporting will always views it from biase optic. Figures small or big or free speeches are threatening but actions solve it.
To control & regulated the facts & follow with thorough actions to overcome the problems is entirely different from hidden/falsifying the facts & sweeps the problem under the carpets. China was the former kind. If you can remember, a country with free speeches, free informations, the Covid deaths toll was over 200 thousands.
So clearly, what you need is not free speeches, informations, etc, but the actions followed.
I doubt if any data of Covid-19 is accurate in the any country on this planet. Just look at the askew from stifling hysteria and blaming other countries.
Between the two seemingly opposing poles of China and the USA lies a multitude of possibilities. A blended mix of both poles adjusted for the situation of each nation would surface. Either pole tends towards extremes that amplify human troubles. Starting in the middle would be a good position. Each pole are directions and not end goals.
This was a 'Xi 西 and TianXia 天下' talk rather than a book talk
Antonio Gramsci's 'interregnum' that Eric refers to while relevant and pertinent, it is better thought of as the present period between the death of a unipolar world order that has failed to adapt, and it's replacement with a more adaptable emerging multipolar world order.
Eric Li makes a convincing case backed up by facts & figures. His replies are cogent and good-humoured. Karen Koh, on the other hand, is close-minded and hopelessly biased - a sad ABC pathetically clinging on to the sacred cows of Western political philosophy in the face of inconvenient facts to the contrary.
Look, suppose she is a journalist, or one of the “foreign correspondents” based in Hong Kong. Journalism is political by nature, and as a journalist, you have to be on the right side of politics, not necessarily of history. She’s just doing her job, right?
@@kenh4681 Valid argument but can you not see the personal bias within her? It's subjective but if you've met these kinds of people before, it should be obvious. Anyway, time will tell who is right. I bet on the Multi-Polar World and China along with Russia and Iran being the pillars of BRICS+.
Anyone backs this corrupt CCP is not a decent person.
Well done, I agreed with you.
3 or 4 decades ago, Western press was pretty much criticising and laughing at Singapore's system for the same thing....lack of freedom the press, "dictorial rule", authoritarianism etc.
Its crazy how different Eric's view is from the west. But it makes more sense than what ever she is saying
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Such uninformed questioning, those mean figures are just trendlines and not all clusters hit the mean exactly. Classical stereotyping speech freedom that's only 15% accurate.
The furore over Ms Cheng exemplifies the difficulties journalists face in the city. It ranked 135th out of 180 jurisdictions in the latest World Press Freedom Index by Reporters Without Borders-down from 18th in its first report in 2002. Still far freer than the mainland’s, Hong Kong’s once-lively press has been muzzled by the revival of the colonial-era charge of sedition and two national-security laws. The second of these, known as Article 23, was introduced in March, and has not been used against journalists yet. But both are vague, probably by design: the idea is the press should err on the side of caution rather than risk crossing a blurry line.
The worry is that, if even the most powerful global media companies fear being tainted by mere association with press unions, a culture of self-censorship will prevail. Those laws might rarely even need to be invoked. At odds with the authorities since the crackdown, the hkja and similarly minded groups may end up silenced by pressure from their own members.
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Damnit Eric the book is better be good.....cost me AUD$143.04 Hardcover:)
Eric Li is talking to an unarmed Karen! She’s not listening.
Free speech can be good but it's easily tinged with misinformation and bias.
12.40 Yes 240million people lifted out of poverty is no small feat. Hope he is appointed an adviser for PRC government for economic development and FDI
Transparency by mean for the west is for benefting one ownself😀😀😀
This man is trying to answer but keeps repeating, 'this is a fact' when it is not established as a fact. Not only that, a fact can be a manipulation of information, so it is a 'fixed' fact.
Thinking about buying an EV or Hybrid vehicle , certain restrictions on EV for under-capacity in the electric grid here . Hybrid would suit me fine bringing my personal carbon footprint to only 25% of my actual CO2 emissions.
What I think Eric is trying to say about the principle of the freedom of press is a Human creation that is based on our cultures and traditions but it's not "scientific based" as in whether you are Chinese or British or Inca or Persian or even E.T 1+1=2 there is no other way around it.
What is the background of Karen Kho?
Special PA of an Angmo.
I believe it would be ignorant Western propagandist
You have to keep in mind it is a hybrid system., but it is simple....nothing the world has ever seem before........the state handles industries that make citizens lives better..ie electricity, infrastructure, roads, schools, healthcare, housing,and other mainstay industries only for citizens, and has opened other industries to capitalists...difference is capitalists won't have control over the government like they do in the West..it is a hybrid system..you have to be honest about what they have done..it is remarkable......a great feat..if you look at it objectively.
Disappointing to hear this Singaporean asked this low level question. So un-informed. Poor guy.
She Malaysian😂
It is quite funny to watch the woman's face reaction
Eric bring alot of very interesting points, but unfortunatly the interviewer approached the situation with a closed mind and an attacking attitude on China's political policies, rather than engage in a conversation with Eric she did a disservice to herself by speaking to Eric as if he was a policy maker. Would have loved to hear Eric engage futher dialogue about the future of China, rather than a debate between Eastern and Western values.
Go back to Eric's Ted talk from 11 years ago and you will know that his viewpoint is that each culture will do that is best for themselves. That is not to say one way is the grand scheme that will work for everyone.
Another perspective from Australia, New Zealand and the US "UA-camrs": 1. ua-cam.com/video/VP_SpW-DyQg/v-deo.htmlsi=N11wHZEkY-j9lGoD
2.ua-cam.com/video/KZAx8bJkruU/v-deo.htmlsi=xV0-z_OHEJjy5bYD
3.ua-cam.com/video/ui-RHPIcaa0/v-deo.htmlsi=i88ZDF6P2GwXioaY
Poor people tend to have more children to ensure more survive and extra hands on the farm. Richer families have less motivation to do so.
Reupload because most yellow-skinned people left critical feedback on the interviewer in the comments section?
Are you white skinned person.yiu sound very racist
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Interesting that Mr. Lee has become a venture "socialist" now instead of a "venture capitalist." He knows that he must tow the CPC's line promoting "order" over "prosperity." Of course, many at the FCC Hong Kong are nervous about expressing their views out of fear of repression by the government. It's only natural. But I generally agree with his view on the importance of 'order' .
Incorrect.
@@AntiwarObserver Questioning the speaker's views is not 'impolite.' It is what should be normal in a healthy government and state. Obviously, you live in fear of your government so don't even understand the concept.
31:00 - the questioner appears to operate under the assumption that multi-billionaires should somehow have unconstrained freedom to create wealth (mostly for themselves, naturally), & if they're "taken down a peg" in any way or any circumstance, that would somehow "destroy" innovation. That seems like a very extreme neo-liberal view of the world. Let's say a billionaire is prevented from making his 30th, 50th, or 100th billion dollars due to the problematic public impact of his wealth creation, is that REALLY going to disincentivize others from striving to create wealth? Can anyone find me an earnest entrepreneur out there that says "since the networth of Bill Gates, or Jack Ma, or Elon Musk is limited to 'only' $50, or $100, or $150, or $XXX billions of dollars, the game is 'rigged' & I'm not going to even try to make my 1st billion or 1st million"?