@@promiseomiponle810 haven’t tested the battery life yet, but I’ve been dealing with a 4 year old xps 15 with a battery that’s degraded to ~40-50Wh, so Should still be an increase for me I think! The performance is crazy though!
I think you're the best at reviewing laptops. I really love watching your videos. Only thing I hate is knowing no matter how much I fall in love with the machines you review I simply cannot afford any of them. Otherwise man really great videos.
I’m to a point where I can just barely afford one of these . And it’s soooooooooo stressful because it’s soooooo much and I have no clue what to lean into performance vs battery . PLUS it took 2/3 of this year for this device to come out ! So I’m going to be pissed if I make a HUGE purchase and then in January just a few months away they start releasing laptops with 4070s and 4080s in them . I will feel like a idiot . But I also do not want to wait over a year for the legion 7 gen 8 so who knows now a days
I received mine yesterday and I'm absolutely loving it. Price tag was hefty, but my birthday is on 8/30 so why not get myself an early gift. I got the 2TB 3080Ti model (and got it covered with everything Lenovo had to offer). But boy is this thing a monster. Seems like it's the greatest laptop I've ever owned. I'm using it for gaming and work. My alienware M17 R4 is just as good as gone. Putting it on marketplace. Enjoyed the video. Can't wait for your full review.
Haha thanks mate but it is just Gary and myself! Certainly keeps us busy 😂 will be testing and tweaking all weekend and hope to have another video out next week 👍
Perfect review ! Ordered mine yesterday, with the i9 12900hx and 3080ti sadly without the Mini-Led that is still not available here in France but your review helped me alot to take the leap with Lenovo... I had ordered previously two laptops : - The Zephyrus Duo 16 with mini-Led and for me it had 2 annoying flaws : some keys (on the left) felt squeaky and fragile and the mini-Led didn't have enough "zones" so in web browsing, text & coding I had a lot of blooming with dark mode/pages... quite a perfect laptop with incredible sound quality ...if only those problems of keyboard and mini-led won't make it to production models... - The Alienware X17 R2, that was also quite the perfect machine, I was a huge Alienware laptop client before... the premium support is really great, the machine was light and efficient but it suffered low QC at factory and even with 2 swaps of unit I had the same problem of plastic bezels around the screen that was only glued/attached poorly... So I was looking after a mix of the two previous competitors quoted here and it seems like Lenovo packed both of them in the Legion 7i... :) 2 weeks of wait and I'll see. I have some questions for you if you don't mind : - How is the sound quality ? The speakers seem to pack some nice power in here, as they are located under the laptop don't they feel too muffled ? - Does the battery last long enough with this i9+3080ti combo (with some minors tweaks) ? - How is Lenovo support compared to Dell Premium ? I've ordered on-site support as it was discounted with my order Many thanks :)
Sound quality has been good. Better than a lot of other gaming laptops but not as good as a MacBook 16. Still working on tweaking the battery life and will add any findings in my deep dive
as a last year Legion 7 user, i can tell you that, after couple of month my laptop became desktop. Right now i use external screen, keyboard, speaker and mouse and cooling pad from IETs. I had a chance to test 12th gen processor this year, I can tell you for sure that this year laptop is much faster in windows UI, it will turn on quickly, open windows faster and feels snapier comparing to 11th gen. Overall Intel outperformed and made huge leap in performance. But using Lenovo as a laptop, it definetly not good portable machine for cafe work, better go in direction macbooks
@@talgattursynbekov9677 I've always been using either DTR laptops like the Alienware 51m or gaming laptops. and tbh I hate everything about Mac for various and personnal reasons... even as a developer.I'm more into laptops with dual boot Linux (Arch) and Windows as I work on .net environments. Many thanks for your feedback
@@Nomadsan same with me and for me priority was performance, that my laptop is a desktop replacement without compromises but with compromises in a battery life and portability. I guess you made that chooice too. As a bonus you will get slightly better battery life comparing to previous generations but in general it wont last in worst case, more than 2 hours, in best case 4 hours.
Lenovo makes some of the best gaming laptops but importantly, it makes the most reliable gaming laptops. I had last year's 7i and this is an improvement on so many areas
just ordered a 7i gen 7 with i7 3070ti best value it seems from all my research. still holds strong picked a good time considering the 2023 just released & mine is way cheaper than originally. can NOT wait!
The new pricing is just ridiculous. Glad that i went for last gen AMD 5900HX model which is far more reasonable (esp if you can find on discount). In terms of gaming performance, there is not huge gap between 3080 and 3080Ti
16" with a 16: 10 ratio is just the best decision any laptop manufacturer can take in my opinion. What a screen... Also i've seen white keys included in the box, does that mean that all the keys of the laptop can be changed ? Also if they can be changed is that true for last year models or the 5i pro ? Also in your opinion when is the best time of the year to get a new laptop (prices in general) ?
Yes the laptop keys are designed to be changed and they even provide 8 scissor switches in case you break any in the process. The best time to buy is a couple of months after this release when they start discounting or giving out coupons. Possibly Black Friday will be the best time
Came across this review and you've earned yourself a sub! First person with a retail product and a nice depth to your review 👌 I thought I'd add some information that might be useful for others looking at it. In July the top spec price was £3,709, and there was a 20% discount on it's website launch and then 25% near the end of July. Top spec price is now £4,650 but there is currently a 15% discount on so its £3,952. If the price changes within 30 days of you receiving your laptop, lenovo will refund the difference (price promise guarantee, I think it's called). As I bought one just before 25% offer came in and cancelled/reordered not realising they offered this! Hopefully mine will arrive this week and thanks to your review, I feel pretty confident I made the right choice! (Although I did buy a 3070 Ti GE66 2022 in April, so maybe I made the right choice the second time, for sale if anyone wants it 🙈😂) Keep up the good work and thank you 😊
Thanks a lot for the kind words! I did see a few reviews with production samples and no real performance data so wanted to get this out ASAP for everyone! At the moment I am mucking around with the CPU and getting some good results so will do a deep dive in the week with more info. But a quick heads up the i9 CPU is locked by default you need to go into BIOS and change the ovderclock option then you can adjust the CPU in TS or XTU. I will be showing all this on my deep dive if it doesn't make sense :)
@@MashITTech don't thank me, thank yourself! You are in good company, pretty much first thing I do once everything is set up is undervolt cpu/gpu to see where the sweet spot is. As sometimes you don't need everything turned up to 11 😂 looking forward to seeing your deep dive and what you manage to come up with! Don't forget to go outside occasionally though 😉
Hi, do you know when you could upload a full review for that machine? Wanted to buy one but quite not sure of it before watching some deep dive which would cover temperatures, fan noise, performance and other stuff (so something like you usually do in other videos on the channel) Thanks for the content
I am still working on it at the moment! these videos take me a long time to produce due to all the testing I need to do. I am hoping to have something out early next week
Hi Dave! Quick question for you. On top of getting rid of McAfee, what other blotware programs would you recommend uninstalling on the legion 7i? Love your videos too, they very well done and informative. Have a great new years!
Great video, thank you for your work ! Are you going to post a deep dive into Legion 7i? I'm interested in buying Alienware X17 R2 and it would be really helpful to make a comparison between these two laptops. Thanks !
Hi Dave, good video, waiting fir the in deep review. Do you know if this Legion admit double side nvme like firecuda 530 4tb or any 4tb or more drives in both slots?
It’s great that someone is finally going to review the Legion 7i Gen 7!!! It’s been out for a while now and I’m thinking of buying one but I wasn’t going to put down so much money without some reviews first!!! One question: can you confirm that both the CPU and the GPU of the Legion 7i Gen 7 has liquid metal phase change compound? Thank you.
I haven’t taken the vapour chamber off to confirm yet but looking at the temps I feel it has to be. When I have spent some time testing the machine out a bit I will take a look for you
From what I saw at the launch event they are using factory default thermal paste. Nothing special. What is special is the cooling system which, apparently, is perfect.
@@MashITTech I believe only specific Asian markets got factory-applied liquid metal for the CPU (the vapor chamber coldplate for the CPU is nickel-plated to avoid galvanic corrosion), the rest of the world got the Honeywell special (PTM7950 phase change material) which is known to perform amazingly well!
It’s probably an optimised version of the industrial grade phase change material Honeywell PTM-7950. It has the highest interface wettability and hence lowest thermal impedance amongst almost all thermal paste in the market. Only LM can beat that
Hey can you share the link of the page where it mentions mini-led. From what I have seen, mini-led is only available for the slim version and not the regular legion 7i
Yep, wondering the same thing, from what I've seen its only the slim that has the option for the mini-led screen, which would really be a shame if it turns out to be true...
@@a3r797 I have researched a bit and found they have removed mini led even from slim series. You check all their sites and won't find any mention of mini led for slim as well. But honestly if they bring a legion 7i with mini led that would be GOAT. I would pay 4k for that even if I go broke😅
@@MashITTech i heard a supply issue was the reason for delay but idek when the mini led will be out and also the 240hz panel? Lenovo is delaying too long for everything its nuts, and 2023 will be upon us and gives us buyer's remorse
Thanks, you can still select 1080p but the image is a bit stretched. I only benchmark it at 1080p so I can compare against other laptops I normally game at 2560x1600 or 1920x1200 👍
@@MashITTech just for simplicity or not dealing with a stretched image when testing, i believe if you set the resolution to 1080p in windows settings it should switch to 16 by 9 and let you play all games like that.
Awesome overview, this is the review I've been waiting for and can't wait for the deep dive, really looking forward to it. Can't wait to get mine. One question, I thought the Legion 7 came with Windows hello, can you verify? Thanks
@@nizamahmed5073 Well crap, I thought there was. That's ok though cause I think fingerprint is better then face unlock, I've seen windows face unlock with different people.
So can the alienware x17 r2 or legion 9 be undervolted?UK I'd want the 3080ti but after the i7 and 3070ti, it was throttling over 100c front the get go so took it back for the ryzen 7/6850mxt
I wonder why the delay with the Mini-LED screen? Personally, it’s a game changer I don’t think I can go back to traditional none OLED panels or something that doesn’t have deep blacks. Hopefully, Lenovo release this in the future. I also don’t know if I should wait for the RTX 4000 series as it will be out soon.
They already have the mini led listed so it will be available for this model I expect there is just a delay with the panel manufacturer. I have the mini led on the MacBook Pro 14 and 16 and do love the image quality but man those panels are sluggish, I hope the legion panel is as fast as the 165hz in response time
The 4000 graphics card (chips) for laptops won't be released for another year maybe longer according to current information, sadly they got pushed back. I was wondering about them too but I can't wait I need a laptop for school and this is a great one.
@@MashITTech Are you sure about the LED panel because they said it was for the new AMD 7 not the Intel 7. A few reviewers in May, when this was suppose to be released, was confused as to why they aren't releasing the 7i with LED. I was just wondering because I wanted that screen. If this is true I can always order the LED screen and install it because they all connect the same way, upgraded like this before in past laptops.
Waiting for the full review. I got few questions. 1) How to use USB-C charging port for laptop charging? Like what are the requirements? Can I charge the laptop using my power bank that I have been using to charge my phone? 2) Should I buy this laptop or wait for Nvidia 4000 series?
Ok, the full review will take me at least a week to really test the laptop thoroughly 👍 your questions: 1. The only requirements are that you use a decent PD charger and I expect it needs to be 60w or greater but haven’t tested this yet. You can use powerbanks but most are not powerful enough. I have some decent PD60 powerbanks I use for laptops. 2. It’s difficult to answer as we have no date on the 4000 series yet and there are also rumours that nvidia will delay them. I don’t expect we will see 4000 series laptops until q1-q2 next year so I guess how long can you wait?
65w PD charger is the minimum requirement for doing light work and keeping the laptop charged, any lower than that, the battery will stop charging if the laptop isn't in sleep
I am still playing with that now and hoping to have a video by the end of the week. Undervolting is working but not giving me the results I expected which is holding my testing up. I have used TS and XTU for years so I am used to undervolting but even though the voltage looks like it is taking the results don’t improve.
Hello, I also have this model of laptop, but under the "hood" I have 12800 hx and 3070 Ti and I noticed in your video that at one point you say that even the resting area of the palms is cold...for me it is not like that!At least the right area, especially when I'm playing a game with cars (I use the arrows to control the direction), I feel a lot of heat in the palmrest, something that doesn't really happen on the left side! Now I'm curious, is it the same in your case?!Likewise, in the case of the battery, it gets "very hot" 42-41 degrees Celsius! I also had last year's model, the one with 3080 16Gb, unfortunately I spilled beer on it... and I bought this one, but the one from last year it didn't have these problems, so I'm curious, do I have this or others too?!
This model definitely runs hotter than last years but it is also pulling a LOT more wattage this year! My keyboard and palm rest do get quite toasty and very similar to a Razer Blade. The battery does run warm too. This is unfortunately what you get when you run such a high power through a small chassis :(
Yes, the chassis is really small, but I don't know if I'm wrong, but it seems a bit "thick" compared to last year!And one more curiosity, compared to the "competition" Legion 7 with these TDP/TGPs strictly related to the numbers (FPS) it rises to about the same level? Of course speaking of the same configurations 3070 Ti vs 3070 Ti (MSI or Dell for example ), because the numbers seem a bit small to me and I have the feeling that others (same configuration) seem to be higher! Am I wrong?!
Thank you for the review. I would love to compare this laptop and the Thinkpad P16 Gen 1 with the same specs. Would you think the performance would change?
Doesn't seem possible my AW M17 R4 is a year old, and I still LOVE it. You helped my choice back then and I still love your videos now. Impressive rig from Lenovo. I'll keep my Alienware though. Your my favorite Tech YT channel.
Thank you so much for the kind words. I really appreciate the ongoing support even though you are still enjoying the m17 (which was an amazing release from dell!)
It’s a fair amount better. The materials used are better, they removed the horrible plastic fan grill and rear, it is also much easier to get inside this year. Overall a big improvement
Currently I’m in the system replacement merry go round with Dell/Alienware for the x17r2. Motherboard replacement needed on 1st, display panel defective on 2nd. 8( If you were able to choose between the two and price isn’t the concern, would you still choose the AW x17 for your personal rig?
That’s really hard to answer just yet. At the moment I am loving this legion but I have only had my hands on it for a couple of days and the initial excitement hasn’t worn off yet. Once I have used it extensively to see if any little bugs appear I will be able to answer. And I do plan to do a x17 vs legion video soon
@@MashITTech looking forward to the review, and appreciate the time and expertise put into these, especially helpful when brick and mortar retailers have little on display due to supply shortages or to avoid theft.
I can’t wait to break into Throttlestop and xtu to increase the scores on this one! Haven’t forgotten about you either, just had to push back my alienware video when this arrived 👍
Honest question please. This or ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 18 G834JY-N6005W 18" gaming laptop with 4090? They are the same price. And i need a game laptop tomorrow. Which is the best for my money? It will be the first time spending 4.5k on a laptop. My current laptop was a used 600 euro msi lol
And here I am, I was originally going to buy yhe razer 17 QHD, changed my mind to the x17 r2, and now here's this one the next morning after I make up my mind. Hard to beat the Dell customer support and warranty though. Now I've gotta do more research, if I'm spending this kind of money I want to only do it once.
Haha sorry to throw a spanner in the works. I will be making an x17r2 vs legion video soon but I have to have more hands on time with this first though 😃 oh and yes the warranty is a good point as dell on-site warranty is fantastic
@@MashITTech if Alienware had the HX for the x17r2 it would be a no Brainer, like someone else said, it would be great to be able to tune the laptop down and put the fans up for light gaming and school. I am unaware if the HK can or if it's only the HX but the price difference would probably not be worth it
I went through the exact same Razer to Alienware to Legion journey 😂 Finally ordered the Legion (Dell Germany has almost no customization options available right now, so that eased the decision).
As an owner of the laptop, the 12800hx/3070ti version, it runs extremely hot. 100% gpu in gaming running at 83C with cooling pad. CPU intensive running at around 81C. Make sure you raise the back of this laptop for better airflow
Although yes that is hot, it seems to be the case with most of the 12th gen gaming laptops o have tested! These 12th gen CPUs are like furnaces and with the shared heat pipes or vapour chamber it often leads to higher gpu temps too
The good news is they also offer onsite warranty like Dell, I wish every manufacturer had this option! But I don't think the phone support is as good as Dells but I haven't had a problem with a machine yet to test it myself (and I do have a lot of Lenovo laptops in service
Thanks for the review. I just bought a 5i with 12700 and 3070 150 watt for a lot less (1702 USD after tax). Would love to see what the difference is between the 2.. in particular in the GPU side of things. I am super happy with it so far. Just subscribed and wish you well with the channel.
The 3070ti is a small tad better, 3080ti would be noticeably better but not like wow! Better. The biggest difference between the 5i and 7i is that the 12th gen hx model cpus in the 7i are absurd with a relatively capable vapor chamber. For most games it won't matter though, the 5i is a great machine and although I love my 7i the 5i is a better value of performance per dollar.
@@dis3nchant3d42 I am blown away with my laptop with the exception of battery life. I need to do some research on the quickest way to change it to battery conservation.. I have read that you need to also put it to 60 hz refresh rate. Hope you have some time to get some gaming in on yours!
A question to all Legion 5 Pro owners cuz it was impossible to find in anywhere in the internet. Is it possible to record 16:9 while playing 16:9 on the laptop’s screen without any problems, unusual zooms, bluriness, etc?
By default it will stretch the image to fit the 1200p but it doesn’t look too bad. The 1080p recording will come correctly though. You can also change you gfx settings to keep 1:1 scaling and the 1080 p will be displayed correctly but you will have black bars at top and bottom
Mash team... I just got the exact same rig and neither XTU nor Throttlestop work with it - both say that CPU overclocking/tweaking is disabled. I can only change power limits. Are you having the same problem or aware of a fix? I am also not getting anywhere near a sustained 150W power draw on the CPU that you mentioned more like 135W which is why I want to tweak it.
Go into BIOS and enable overclocking on the cpu, for some reason they have it disabled out of the box. I am just working on the deep dive video at the moment and that was one of the topics 😀👍
@@MashITTech Thx for the info but I don't see an option for that in the bios? Only something called restore default overclocking and that isnt unlocking the CPU. I am trying to update the bios now from Lenovo’s website.
@@MashITTech After updating to the new bios using the Lenovo Vantage software now I see the setting in the bios - CPU Unlock. Thanks so much for your help!
Is the laptop VR Ready/Supported? It doesn't have a DP port, so I wonder whether the back USB-C DP is connected to the Nvidia dGPU and supports the Index/Vive Pro.
Holy smokes! Lenovo going all out with this one, guns blazing! That applies to the price too! 21k Cinebench score, add that mini LED 1200Nits HDR1000 cert panel and consider it a deal if you can get it for 5000 GBP lol.
David, I think you can "upgrade" your reviews with one trick - not only show us noise but also let us hear the noise when the laptop is in silent, balanced, turbo or whatever the producer calls it, and then you can tell us which laptop is best in this category, thank you.
Okay I was able to get a teacher discount on this and take 500 off. Question is would you suggest this computer same specs and everything or Alienware X15 R2 with basically same setup. i9 3080ti 2tb drive 32 ram. Torn between the 2. Also warranties. Would you say the 3 year extended warranty is worth it on legion? havent had a legion before and use the warranty or customer service. I know Alienware is good once you get a good person working with you. Figured I would ask and get recommendation with someone that has had both in hand. Also if I use external monitor most the time except when I travel (not a lot but occasional) would you say I lose much getting the current legion monitor and screen vs the other screens they are suppose to release.
I love alienware but would buy the legion 7 over it every time! It is so much more powerful whilst having much better ports, bugger brighter screen and upgradable ram. I have had a few legions over the years and all are still going strong but I would still get the warranty for piece of mind on such an expensive laptop. And I wouldn’t wait for the mini led, the current qhd+ panel is excellent and if you are also using an external save the money and time waiting for it
@@MashITTech would you say the 3 year extended a good amount. i have never dropped a laptop or spilled something on it so was thinking no to accidental but getting 3 years extended of their high tier coverage
Hi, yes this was in performance mode which allows the system to run full throttle. On balanced it is quieter but caps the cpu at about 45w and the gpu at 115w and lastly there is the quiet mode which is really quiet but caps the cpu at 24w and gpu at 40w 👍
Great intro. 👍 I wouldn’t pay that much for this laptop so I’ll either get the 5i or wait it out to see if I can get the 7i at a more palatable price. I wonder if there is a comparison between the 5i with the 3070Ti and the 7i with the 3080?
In all fairness the 5i is a lot better value and performance is still amazing. My alienware is a 12700h and 3070ti and that is more than enough for me for 1080p and 1440p gaming
I thought of buying but found very expensive and looks great though but ended up buying the legion 5i pro 2022 which seems to fit to the budget not a big rgb keyboard fan
I just bought the one he is showing earlier today and got almost $700 off with my student discount and coupon. I waited forever for this thing. It was suppose to come out in May.
Yep, I thought they were never going to release it, we had the 5i pro 3 months ago! Glad you managed to finally buy it and seem you got a really good price too! Good news is, Lenovo have left this i9 unlocked so I am spending the weekend tweaking and testing. Will do a deep dive video next week
The legion Slim 7i Gen 7 (2022) ticks almost all boxes for me. Thank you for the nice video. But could you please review or add review of the mini LED Display option of this laptop. I have not been able to find any video on UA-cam showing the mini led display option of this laptop. Legion 7i slim gen 7 has a display option of MINI LED 165 Hz QHD VESA HDR 1000 certified with peak brightness of 1250 nits Gsync support. It would be great to know how this MINI LED panel compares with the similar latest MINI LED offerings from Apple, MSI, Asus, etc in terms of typical brightness, number of mini led backlights, color accuracy, etc.
Please let us know about the 64GB DDR5 DIMMS compatibility. For me this is the deciding factor before I order the Legion. If it doesn't work I will look for the ASUS ROG STRIX SCAR 17 SE. Thanks
64gb ram just arrived! I still have a lot of testing to do over the weekend then I will test the RAM and put a video out on that and SSDs next week as I plan to install 4tb gen 4 ssds
Please if possible just post here before you upload the video that the memory works without issues. I would like to order mine by Monday so your feedback is a must! Thanks :)
I know the battery life will suck . I’m so stressed trying to decide between the 7 and 7i this will be my first HUGE purchase like this . This will be way better than my desk top even . I want battery life BUT it’s hard to look past all that POWER !
Battery life is pretty dire so far, I am trying to tweak it to improve it. Ryzen battery is at least double but performance on battery is also throttled
@@MashITTech the 6850xt is also 1k less that the 3080ti model . I’m trying to be realistic in how much I actually use the computer for content consumption and work . If I’m mostly gaming it’s gotta be plugged in anyways but if I’m spending that much I would hope I would use for everything IDK ITS SO HARD to figure out because I only use my work laptop for work . Thank you for the answers and replies good sir !
Yeah it is hard to justify the cost. I have an Alienware m17r5 with 6900hx and 6850xt arriving this week so I will be able to let you know how well that card performs but I think for gaming it will be pretty close to the 3080ti
@@MashITTech that would be cool . I have it sitting in my cart on Lenovos site . Just can’t pull the trigger yet until I have all the info . Also I’m afraid in a few months 4000 series laptops will start to trickle out so idk what to do !! Lol
Amazing review! CoD WARZONE is my new fav game for the past 5 days LOL so nice benchmark. Thought you might want to know I had to spend little less on my laptop, so I ended up with a ryzen 5 rtx 3050 Asus rog strix. Probably will get a new laptop in 2 years or so right before I go to college. rtx 4060 should have 8gb vram and will be able to conquer any game as well as an rtx 3070 ti can, so Ill get better specs for the money. Tried to get the Alienware but Best Buy was cancelling my order, so my last resort was buying something cheap from best buy in store on the last day I had to spend money for my business program I enrolled into. I probably will send you some money by September for your amazing reviews. I think you should have at least 250k subscribers with how good your reviews are.
How’s the 3050 holding up in warzone? I was surprised at how well the 3050ti managed 1080p high settings on the m15r5 ryzen laptop so hope yours is running well too 👍
I can run it on full graphics but my computer keeps turning down the resolution. Didnt find a way to solve this issue. problem is im trying to run fullest graphics with 4gb of vram LOL I never really payed attention to my fps because it was really high due to the low resolution. But overall Its holding surprisinglly well:) . Once i figure how to run the resolution normally I can send you some avg fps benchmarks if you're interested. II can also send you pics of my whole set up too if you want. I got my laptop for 576 pounds. had to buy an extra stick of ram for 35 pounds. both combined including tax was 692 pounds. bought an rgb mouse pad for 11 pounds and a razer basilisk v3 for 50 pounds including tax. over all a pretty good set up I got:) Btw any chance you can accept Paypal donations? I could send a donation right now of 5 pounds I collected online. :D Again great video!
Thank you mate, it’s always greatly appreciated and goes back in to help find more laptops for review. It’s PayPal.me/MashITTech 😀 and yes I would love more details of your set up when you have it sorted, my email dave@mashababa.co.uk
I got the Core i7 12800HX / RTX 3070Ti model about a month ago now. Unfortunately the BIOS is locked and the previous ways to unlock the Advanced Menu settings don't seem to work on this new model. I reached out to Lenovo customer service and they told me this new model didn't ship with the Advanced Menu settings unlike previous generation models, which I found hard to believe. At stock settings though, the laptop does a good job at keeping the internals cool (GPU temps run around 68 degrees Celsius under load for me) but it would still be nice to squeeze in a few degrees less and especially undervolt the CPU.
I haven’t dug around the bios or tweaked in TS or xtu with my i9 yet but if I find anything I will let you know. What sort of scores are you getting with the 12800hx? The i9 is such an expensive up charge I think the 12800hx is the better option
@@MashITTech Yes, I was very much concerned by the CPU temps under load if I went with the Core i9 and opted to go for i7 model instead as it appeared to be the sweet spot. I didn't run CineBench but if I remember correctly I scored around 12000 in TimeSpy.
Seems like that could be the best value option then. This 12900hx is so powerful I can’t imagine anyone needing this much horse power but I do love it 😂
For pure performance this one. For a cheaper laptop with better battery the AMD version. I am planning on getting the AMD in soon and will do a comparison video of them
I loved the video! I was looking to buy this laptop for video editing. Could you help me with this. How much of different does i9 make compared to i7? I have no idea could you help me with this and how. Cheers
In all honesty the difference is tiny. You would be better getting the i7 and putting the savings towards more ram and storage as that is really important for video editing
@@MashITTech so I was looking on google and it said that you need minimum speed required for editing is around 4.5 GHz and after checking Ryzen only goes upto 4.7 GHz while I9 goes upto 5Ghz. Apart from this Ryzen chip for legion is clocked at 3.2 (base) to 4.7 GHz (Turbo) Does the chip automatically go upto 4.7 GHz or do we have to over clock it manually?
Pretty darn expensive it is.. right now on sale at Singapore Lenovo online.. ur same spec will be costing around 3k GBP and 12800hx with 3070ti is just 1850 gbp… that’s a steal I believe..
@@MashITTech I live in India.. here also it’s crazy expensive.. hope the prizes come down sooner or later.. the i9 3080ti costs around 3.5L or 3.4K gbp.. if they don’t.. I’d better plan to buy it somewhere outside India for a cheaper price..
@@whatthefitt at 1800 quid that’s decent value.. for a 7i.. you pay for the product not just the ram and ssd.. if u want u can always upgrade as per ur need…
@@royalz45 Back in early July, I bought 12800hx 3070ti 1gb sdd 32gb ram at about GBP2210. Purchased it through a cashback app which had a one day special promo of 20% cashback - hopefully I will receive the cashback by October as stated. That will be a steal, lol. But still waiting for my laptop to arrive! Delivery got delayed 😕
love it awesome laptop will definitely upgrade my aging 5.5yr old laptop to the successor of this next year assuming they finally deliver this with an ecc memory and PD 240 via USB. 🤗
Just out of curiosity. Did you permanently buy this 4.4k$ with your own money or are going to return it after reviewing it? Is it kind of an investment for UA-cam? I mean you already probably have a lot of high end laptops with you and buying this much expensive laptop for a couple of videos are worth it? Nice video though 👍
I do buy it out of the business fund. We may keep them for a few months to do reviews and follow up videos then eventually sell them to put money back into the business for new laptops 👍
Could you please compare Alienware x17 R2 vs this Lenovo Legion 7i? I'm seriously considering buying something powerful like this, perhaps on Black Friday, and so far my "short list" contains only these 2 notebooks. Albeit currently one might get Alienware for much lower price, but as you said price for Lenovo most probably will drop.
@@MashITTech On the french site, you cannot configure a 12800HX with a 3080ti. You can only get the 3080ti with the 12900HX and with a mandatory 32GB RAM (that you cannot change) for a whooping 1300 euros more.
Really thinking about getting the 5 pro, been waiting for lenovo to get product back in stock for a while. I think they are the most well rounded laptops from the reviews. Its funny seeing the specs on screen during CoD, my desktop with a 3700x cpu, 5700xt gpu, I get about 120 FPS at 1440p in ultra/high. But, my gpu temp is at 96 with the fans turned up LOL. Great for the winter though...
The 5 pro is an amazing machine, I reviewed this years model a while ago and it has to be the best bang for the buck! And in warzone, I haven’t even had time to tweak it, this was just 1600p max settings to see how it coped. I was also incredibly impressed with the temps and it didn’t even get that loud (less than the x17 and ge76 I have also reviewed)
Ooh I think I'm in love with this thing! Looks beautiful! Is it true that the memory cannot be expanded any higher that 32gb? That would be my only gripe so far if it is. With such specs I reckon it should go up to 64gb at least.
@@frostgodx actually you can't. I just did some searching & saw a question on Lenovos website asking this very thing, where someone wanted to know if they could install 2 x 32gb ram. The reply from Lenovo themselves was no. A maximum of 2 x 16gb is all that you can do on the new legion 7i. This was on Lenovo US site under the Q&A section for the Legion 7 series. Very disappointing. It is possible an incorrect reply was given by the CSR (wouldn't be the 1st time) but I can't find a more in-depth spec sheet to download to check to see what the max the motherboard will allow.
I don’t believe that for a second! I think they made a mistake in that they don’t allow you to configure with 64gb. I have just ordered 2x32gb crucial sticks so will be testing asap and will let you know 👍
@@MashITTech thanks. I just edited my comment below to say the CSR at Lenovo might have given an incorrect reply. It would be bonkers with all that specced out hardware to have an upgradeable limit of 32gb. I shall look forward to your review & proving them wrong!
@@madcatter972 i concur with mash IT on this one the lenovo reps that handle the social interactions are usually untrained and companies generally specify weird things. I can confirm 100% that you can upgrade to 64gb as i have this laptop on hand and have done so using Crucial memory. You should note a good example of this is Asus with their G14 showing 24gb max and even the g15 and m16 models showing strange max capacities that are completely incorrect. They and lenovo as well as almost all other brands but maybe MSI all seem to have disconnected reps that do not relay the correct information.
If it's going to offer same performance and constrained thermals as the nearly $5k MSI GT77 Titan or $3k-$5k GE77HX Raider without their bulky 17" chassis, it could very well be the best gaming laptop of this summer, especially given the screen might be better than the 1440p of the Raider or on par or worse than the 4k option on Titan, however this statement has potential to be true provided this newer Legion 7i gets released and becomes available in retailers now... and not like last year, when the release of prev gen Legion 7 was scheduled for Q2, devices started to land in shops later in Q4, with pricing somewhat palpatable only by early Q1 following year (with a few coupons on black friday/christmas sales when more than a few devices became available)... Still this slimmer design and 16" chassis might be better suited to the possible AMD Advantage 6ks' pairing that Lenovo has also promised in Legion 7 line-up. Testers and reviewers would have to check and verify the cooling solution's prowess and energy efficiency in both Intel and AMD variants.
@@tatooine_dream Well they did have a chance of understandable pricing or acceptable one when all the tech in desktop space jumped in pricing, especially with GPUs sky-rocketing past twice the MSRPs, with MSRPs already pumped... as we're seeing now a decrease of prices for many computer components, these laptops need to offer something extra to warrant such pricing, and chief amongst the factors are actual availability (not just single press example device and paper launch, nor the devices "buyable" at retail/en masse but with quarter or more of wait/build/transport wait-time till actual arrival), performance/thermals (so as not to pay extra for gear that cannot actually be even used unless one wants to turn the laptop into a frying pan or hair dryer) and sane pricing (compared to competition and other PC market offerings)...
One thing I’m wondering is can you put 64 gb of ddr5 without any issues I see that the maximum they have so far is 32 I never had any legions laptop or products decided on this new legions or wait until Alienware x17 r3 comes out
Dave all the other reviews of this are showing major CPU issues when also using the video card.. The CPU is only able to pull like 45 watts even in the extreme performance mode. Do you still have this and are you having the same issue? The MSI GT77 and even GE67HX are so far beyond this it's not even close.
@@MashITTech Weird when my 2021 sustains 230 between both and that's with just the 3070. My frequency never goes below 90 watts or 3.8ghz when gaming with GPU at 140W. Thanks for the reply, it's not for me this time. Perhaps the 6900HX model is more interesting this year.
@@MashITTech 17 inches. I believe the Scar se and Titan are currently the most powerful desktop replacement laptops. The Scar SE is sold at a much more affordable price as well, as opposed to both, Legion, and Titan. Lenovo must lower the price for both 7i and 7 Advantage, as it stands, it is ridiculously priced.
In your full review, Highly Appreciate if you could compare : 1) the 12800HX (gen 7 L7i) vs 12700H (gen 7 5i) vs 5900HX/5800H (gen 6 L7) in excel functions, just for us office lovers who want a gaming laptop for dual purpose! Please let me know if you would include it in the full review, as many of my friends would watch your full review video just for that! As we all have the gen 6 legion 7 some with 5900HX and some with 5800H. 2) Also what are the differences in 32gb ddr4 and 32gb ddr5 in real life applications? 3) Is the killer wifi that much better in wifi connection than the gen 6 legion 7 which i have? Anyways, keep up the good work, you might have low subscribers now but i love your videos, has a nice vibe to it, wish you well to hit 6 digits soon. Cheers!
I can't get hold of the 12800hx at the moment but could test the other CPUs. We still have a legion 7 with 5800h/3080 in the office 👍 So far I have noticed very little difference between DDR4 and DDR5 but I will try and find some actual data to present. the killer wifi on this model has been rock solid so far on my wifi 6 router and older AC router. And thanks for the kind words :)
sorry it was our last video so thought you may have seen it, here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/D8agENFJR5c/v-deo.html I also put in links for the SSDs and RAM I have tested.
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I have my 12800HX/3070-ti model coming in tomorrow, can't wait!
Oh wow congratulations! Please let me know how the 12800hx performs would love to compare to the 12900hx
Yeah please let us know! 🥺
Wow
Ayye I got that one last Friday. Aside from battery life being a bit low, It’s a fuckin beast fr! 🔥
@@promiseomiponle810 haven’t tested the battery life yet, but I’ve been dealing with a 4 year old xps 15 with a battery that’s degraded to ~40-50Wh, so Should still be an increase for me I think! The performance is crazy though!
I think you're the best at reviewing laptops. I really love watching your videos. Only thing I hate is knowing no matter how much I fall in love with the machines you review I simply cannot afford any of them. Otherwise man really great videos.
Thanks a lot for the kind words, glad you enjoy the videos and I know what you mean, these laptops are so expensive!
I’m to a point where I can just barely afford one of these . And it’s soooooooooo stressful because it’s soooooo much and I have no clue what to lean into performance vs battery . PLUS it took 2/3 of this year for this device to come out ! So I’m going to be pissed if I make a HUGE purchase and then in January just a few months away they start releasing laptops with 4070s and 4080s in them . I will feel like a idiot . But I also do not want to wait over a year for the legion 7 gen 8 so who knows now a days
@@MashITTech do you think it will be faster than a 3070 12700k kombo, with only ap100 fully copper cooling down the cpu?
I received mine yesterday and I'm absolutely loving it. Price tag was hefty, but my birthday is on 8/30 so why not get myself an early gift. I got the 2TB 3080Ti model (and got it covered with everything Lenovo had to offer). But boy is this thing a monster. Seems like it's the greatest laptop I've ever owned. I'm using it for gaming and work. My alienware M17 R4 is just as good as gone. Putting it on marketplace. Enjoyed the video. Can't wait for your full review.
In the U.S. these just went on sale today, so you should be able to take advantage of Lenovo's Price Protection
Such high quality video, edits, and content. Obviously you have a top notch crew helping you out Dave. Can't wait for the full review.
Haha thanks mate but it is just Gary and myself! Certainly keeps us busy 😂 will be testing and tweaking all weekend and hope to have another video out next week 👍
Best video for Lenovo Legion 7 i9 I have seen so far. Thanks!
I can’t wait to see the full review!
Perfect review !
Ordered mine yesterday, with the i9 12900hx and 3080ti sadly without the Mini-Led that is still not available here in France but your review helped me alot to take the leap with Lenovo...
I had ordered previously two laptops :
- The Zephyrus Duo 16 with mini-Led and for me it had 2 annoying flaws : some keys (on the left) felt squeaky and fragile and the mini-Led didn't have enough "zones" so in web browsing, text & coding I had a lot of blooming with dark mode/pages... quite a perfect laptop with incredible sound quality ...if only those problems of keyboard and mini-led won't make it to production models...
- The Alienware X17 R2, that was also quite the perfect machine, I was a huge Alienware laptop client before... the premium support is really great, the machine was light and efficient but it suffered low QC at factory and even with 2 swaps of unit I had the same problem of plastic bezels around the screen that was only glued/attached poorly...
So I was looking after a mix of the two previous competitors quoted here and it seems like Lenovo packed both of them in the Legion 7i... :) 2 weeks of wait and I'll see.
I have some questions for you if you don't mind :
- How is the sound quality ? The speakers seem to pack some nice power in here, as they are located under the laptop don't they feel too muffled ?
- Does the battery last long enough with this i9+3080ti combo (with some minors tweaks) ?
- How is Lenovo support compared to Dell Premium ? I've ordered on-site support as it was discounted with my order
Many thanks :)
Sound quality has been good. Better than a lot of other gaming laptops but not as good as a MacBook 16.
Still working on tweaking the battery life and will add any findings in my deep dive
@@MashITTech great ! Thanks for your prompt reply ;)
as a last year Legion 7 user, i can tell you that, after couple of month my laptop became desktop. Right now i use external screen, keyboard, speaker and mouse and cooling pad from IETs. I had a chance to test 12th gen processor this year, I can tell you for sure that this year laptop is much faster in windows UI, it will turn on quickly, open windows faster and feels snapier comparing to 11th gen. Overall Intel outperformed and made huge leap in performance. But using Lenovo as a laptop, it definetly not good portable machine for cafe work, better go in direction macbooks
@@talgattursynbekov9677 I've always been using either DTR laptops like the Alienware 51m or gaming laptops. and tbh I hate everything about Mac for various and personnal reasons... even as a developer.I'm more into laptops with dual boot Linux (Arch) and Windows as I work on .net environments.
Many thanks for your feedback
@@Nomadsan same with me and for me priority was performance, that my laptop is a desktop replacement without compromises but with compromises in a battery life and portability. I guess you made that chooice too. As a bonus you will get slightly better battery life comparing to previous generations but in general it wont last in worst case, more than 2 hours, in best case 4 hours.
Lenovo makes some of the best gaming laptops but importantly, it makes the most reliable gaming laptops. I had last year's 7i and this is an improvement on so many areas
Yes, we have had a few legion gaming laptops over the last few years and they are all going strong
just ordered a 7i gen 7 with i7 3070ti best value it seems from all my research. still holds strong picked a good time considering the 2023 just released & mine is way cheaper than originally. can NOT wait!
Great Review! What kind of battery life can I expect on the Legion 7i as well as will the battery life on the AMD version be better?
The new pricing is just ridiculous. Glad that i went for last gen AMD 5900HX model which is far more reasonable (esp if you can find on discount). In terms of gaming performance, there is not huge gap between 3080 and 3080Ti
The 3080;ti version did drop about $1000 USD and the 3070ti version about $600
16" with a 16: 10 ratio is just the best decision any laptop manufacturer can take in my opinion. What a screen...
Also i've seen white keys included in the box, does that mean that all the keys of the laptop can be changed ? Also if they can be changed is that true for last year models or the 5i pro ?
Also in your opinion when is the best time of the year to get a new laptop (prices in general) ?
Yes the laptop keys are designed to be changed and they even provide 8 scissor switches in case you break any in the process. The best time to buy is a couple of months after this release when they start discounting or giving out coupons. Possibly Black Friday will be the best time
Came across this review and you've earned yourself a sub! First person with a retail product and a nice depth to your review 👌
I thought I'd add some information that might be useful for others looking at it. In July the top spec price was £3,709, and there was a 20% discount on it's website launch and then 25% near the end of July. Top spec price is now £4,650 but there is currently a 15% discount on so its £3,952.
If the price changes within 30 days of you receiving your laptop, lenovo will refund the difference (price promise guarantee, I think it's called). As I bought one just before 25% offer came in and cancelled/reordered not realising they offered this!
Hopefully mine will arrive this week and thanks to your review, I feel pretty confident I made the right choice! (Although I did buy a 3070 Ti GE66 2022 in April, so maybe I made the right choice the second time, for sale if anyone wants it 🙈😂)
Keep up the good work and thank you 😊
Thanks a lot for the kind words! I did see a few reviews with production samples and no real performance data so wanted to get this out ASAP for everyone! At the moment I am mucking around with the CPU and getting some good results so will do a deep dive in the week with more info. But a quick heads up the i9 CPU is locked by default you need to go into BIOS and change the ovderclock option then you can adjust the CPU in TS or XTU. I will be showing all this on my deep dive if it doesn't make sense :)
@@MashITTech don't thank me, thank yourself!
You are in good company, pretty much first thing I do once everything is set up is undervolt cpu/gpu to see where the sweet spot is. As sometimes you don't need everything turned up to 11 😂 looking forward to seeing your deep dive and what you manage to come up with! Don't forget to go outside occasionally though 😉
haha I am forced outside by my wife regularly 🤣 plus my office is SO hot in the heat of the day I actually avoid it and work all evenings
The thermals and performance are so impressive.
ever check the thermals of helios predator helios 300 2022 or 2021 edition . those thermals you will never seen on any gaming laptop
@@mujtahidabid392 too loud
Hi, do you know when you could upload a full review for that machine?
Wanted to buy one but quite not sure of it before watching some deep dive which would cover temperatures, fan noise, performance and other stuff (so something like you usually do in other videos on the channel)
Thanks for the content
I am still working on it at the moment! these videos take me a long time to produce due to all the testing I need to do. I am hoping to have something out early next week
Hi Dave! Quick question for you. On top of getting rid of McAfee, what other blotware programs would you recommend uninstalling on the legion 7i? Love your videos too, they very well done and informative. Have a great new years!
Great video, thank you for your work ! Are you going to post a deep dive into Legion 7i? I'm interested in buying Alienware X17 R2 and it would be really helpful to make a comparison between these two laptops. Thanks !
Hi and thank you. Yes, Deep dive coming this week and we will start filming a vs x17 too but not sure when that will release!
Almost 3+ weeks waiting😅
Hi Dave, good video, waiting fir the in deep review. Do you know if this Legion admit double side nvme like firecuda 530 4tb or any 4tb or more drives in both slots?
It’s in my list of things to check for my deep dive. Should have an answer in a couple of days
It’s great that someone is finally going to review the Legion 7i Gen 7!!!
It’s been out for a while now and I’m thinking of buying one but I wasn’t going to put down so much money without some reviews first!!!
One question: can you confirm that both the CPU and the GPU of the Legion 7i Gen 7 has liquid metal phase change compound?
Thank you.
I haven’t taken the vapour chamber off to confirm yet but looking at the temps I feel it has to be. When I have spent some time testing the machine out a bit I will take a look for you
From what I saw at the launch event they are using factory default thermal paste. Nothing special. What is special is the cooling system which, apparently, is perfect.
Wow, if that is stock paste I am incredibly impressed! It beats the x17 with a 4 fan and vapour chamber and element 31 TIM
@@MashITTech I believe only specific Asian markets got factory-applied liquid metal for the CPU (the vapor chamber coldplate for the CPU is nickel-plated to avoid galvanic corrosion), the rest of the world got the Honeywell special (PTM7950 phase change material) which is known to perform amazingly well!
It’s probably an optimised version of the industrial grade phase change material Honeywell PTM-7950. It has the highest interface wettability and hence lowest thermal impedance amongst almost all thermal paste in the market. Only LM can beat that
Hey can you share the link of the page where it mentions mini-led. From what I have seen, mini-led is only available for the slim version and not the regular legion 7i
Yep, wondering the same thing, from what I've seen its only the slim that has the option for the mini-led screen, which would really be a shame if it turns out to be true...
@@a3r797 I have researched a bit and found they have removed mini led even from slim series. You check all their sites and won't find any mention of mini led for slim as well. But honestly if they bring a legion 7i with mini led that would be GOAT. I would pay 4k for that even if I go broke😅
It was mentioned all over the U.K. website on the 7i, 7 and 7 slim! I am out at the moment but I will look when I get home
@@MashITTech i heard a supply issue was the reason for delay but idek when the mini led will be out and also the 240hz panel? Lenovo is delaying too long for everything its nuts, and 2023 will be upon us and gives us buyer's remorse
Nice review 👍🏾 I have the Asus m16 i9 with a 3070ti and the screen is 1600p and 16:10. How do you play 1080p on that laptop ?
Thanks, you can still select 1080p but the image is a bit stretched. I only benchmark it at 1080p so I can compare against other laptops I normally game at 2560x1600 or 1920x1200 👍
@@MashITTech just for simplicity or not dealing with a stretched image when testing, i believe if you set the resolution to 1080p in windows settings it should switch to 16 by 9 and let you play all games like that.
Awesome overview, this is the review I've been waiting for and can't wait for the deep dive, really looking forward to it. Can't wait to get mine. One question, I thought the Legion 7 came with Windows hello, can you verify? Thanks
Fingerprint yes. Face recognition no
@@nizamahmed5073 Well crap, I thought there was. That's ok though cause I think fingerprint is better then face unlock, I've seen windows face unlock with different people.
Yes, the windows hello finger print reader works well and is a step up from last years legion 7 which had nothing!
So can the alienware x17 r2 or legion 9 be undervolted?UK I'd want the 3080ti but after the i7 and 3070ti, it was throttling over 100c front the get go so took it back for the ryzen 7/6850mxt
I wonder why the delay with the Mini-LED screen?
Personally, it’s a game changer I don’t think I can go back to traditional none OLED panels or something that doesn’t have deep blacks.
Hopefully, Lenovo release this in the future.
I also don’t know if I should wait for the RTX 4000 series as it will be out soon.
They already have the mini led listed so it will be available for this model I expect there is just a delay with the panel manufacturer. I have the mini led on the MacBook Pro 14 and 16 and do love the image quality but man those panels are sluggish, I hope the legion panel is as fast as the 165hz in response time
@@MashITTech hopefully Lenovo doesn’t let the customer down with this one :
🤞
The 4000 graphics card (chips) for laptops won't be released for another year maybe longer according to current information, sadly they got pushed back. I was wondering about them too but I can't wait I need a laptop for school and this is a great one.
@@MashITTech Are you sure about the LED panel because they said it was for the new AMD 7 not the Intel 7. A few reviewers in May, when this was suppose to be released, was confused as to why they aren't releasing the 7i with LED. I was just wondering because I wanted that screen. If this is true I can always order the LED screen and install it because they all connect the same way, upgraded like this before in past laptops.
Waiting for the full review.
I got few questions.
1) How to use USB-C charging port for laptop charging? Like what are the requirements? Can I charge the laptop using my power bank that I have been using to charge my phone?
2) Should I buy this laptop or wait for Nvidia 4000 series?
Ok, the full review will take me at least a week to really test the laptop thoroughly 👍 your questions: 1. The only requirements are that you use a decent PD charger and I expect it needs to be 60w or greater but haven’t tested this yet. You can use powerbanks but most are not powerful enough. I have some decent PD60 powerbanks I use for laptops. 2. It’s difficult to answer as we have no date on the 4000 series yet and there are also rumours that nvidia will delay them. I don’t expect we will see 4000 series laptops until q1-q2 next year so I guess how long can you wait?
65w PD charger is the minimum requirement for doing light work and keeping the laptop charged, any lower than that, the battery will stop charging if the laptop isn't in sleep
i think i have found my m17r4 replacement.. Can you get a 4k screen ?
Great unboxing as always ..
No but they have a mini led on the way which should trump everything 😀👍
@@MashITTech will it be a glossy screen?
Can you test undervolting in the full review? Great content, Thank you!
I am still playing with that now and hoping to have a video by the end of the week. Undervolting is working but not giving me the results I expected which is holding my testing up. I have used TS and XTU for years so I am used to undervolting but even though the voltage looks like it is taking the results don’t improve.
@@MashITTech Thank you so much for your work!
Could you do a comparison with the 12800HX and 3070 Ti config?
Cool Video!
How is the battery life? And is there anyway to limit power usage of cpu to extend battery life?
I am still working on that. Will add it to my deep dive this week
Hello, I also have this model of laptop, but under the "hood" I have 12800 hx and 3070 Ti and I noticed in your video that at one point you say that even the resting area of the palms is cold...for me it is not like that!At least the right area, especially when I'm playing a game with cars (I use the arrows to control the direction), I feel a lot of heat in the palmrest, something that doesn't really happen on the left side! Now I'm curious, is it the same in your case?!Likewise, in the case of the battery, it gets "very hot" 42-41 degrees Celsius! I also had last year's model, the one with 3080 16Gb, unfortunately I spilled beer on it... and I bought this one, but the one from last year it didn't have these problems, so I'm curious, do I have this or others too?!
This model definitely runs hotter than last years but it is also pulling a LOT more wattage this year! My keyboard and palm rest do get quite toasty and very similar to a Razer Blade. The battery does run warm too. This is unfortunately what you get when you run such a high power through a small chassis :(
Yes, the chassis is really small, but I don't know if I'm wrong, but it seems a bit "thick" compared to last year!And one more curiosity, compared to the "competition" Legion 7 with these TDP/TGPs strictly related to the numbers (FPS) it rises to about the same level? Of course speaking of the same configurations 3070 Ti vs 3070 Ti (MSI or Dell for example ), because the numbers seem a bit small to me and I have the feeling that others (same configuration) seem to be higher! Am I wrong?!
Love the video! Could you also show how one would perform general maintenance (fan cleaning and thermal paste) for this laptop as well?
Thanks
Thank you for the review. I would love to compare this laptop and the Thinkpad P16 Gen 1 with the same specs. Would you think the performance would change?
Doesn't seem possible my AW M17 R4 is a year old, and I still LOVE it. You helped my choice back then and I still love your videos now. Impressive rig from Lenovo. I'll keep my Alienware though. Your my favorite Tech YT channel.
Thank you so much for the kind words. I really appreciate the ongoing support even though you are still enjoying the m17 (which was an amazing release from dell!)
How much better is the build quality of this legion 7i gen 7 compared to last year gen 6?
It’s a fair amount better. The materials used are better, they removed the horrible plastic fan grill and rear, it is also much easier to get inside this year. Overall a big improvement
Currently I’m in the system replacement merry go round with Dell/Alienware for the x17r2. Motherboard replacement needed on 1st, display panel defective on 2nd. 8(
If you were able to choose between the two and price isn’t the concern, would you still choose the AW x17 for your personal rig?
That’s really hard to answer just yet. At the moment I am loving this legion but I have only had my hands on it for a couple of days and the initial excitement hasn’t worn off yet. Once I have used it extensively to see if any little bugs appear I will be able to answer. And I do plan to do a x17 vs legion video soon
@@MashITTech looking forward to the review, and appreciate the time and expertise put into these, especially helpful when brick and mortar retailers have little on display due to supply shortages or to avoid theft.
Amazing scores! And great video too.
My X17 R2 (12900HK) reaches 21.000 after optimisation.
I can’t wait to break into Throttlestop and xtu to increase the scores on this one! Haven’t forgotten about you either, just had to push back my alienware video when this arrived 👍
@@MashITTech what’s your email? I can get you the best Settings for this cpu if your wish
Edited out as you have it
@@MashITTech got it
Thanks
@@humanoit7533 hello, can you send to me your settings please. I have also the x17r2 withe the i9 12900HK
Honest question please.
This or ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 18 G834JY-N6005W 18" gaming laptop with 4090? They are the same price. And i need a game laptop tomorrow. Which is the best for my money? It will be the first time spending 4.5k on a laptop. My current laptop was a used 600 euro msi lol
And here I am, I was originally going to buy yhe razer 17 QHD, changed my mind to the x17 r2, and now here's this one the next morning after I make up my mind. Hard to beat the Dell customer support and warranty though. Now I've gotta do more research, if I'm spending this kind of money I want to only do it once.
Haha sorry to throw a spanner in the works. I will be making an x17r2 vs legion video soon but I have to have more hands on time with this first though 😃 oh and yes the warranty is a good point as dell on-site warranty is fantastic
@@MashITTech if Alienware had the HX for the x17r2 it would be a no Brainer, like someone else said, it would be great to be able to tune the laptop down and put the fans up for light gaming and school. I am unaware if the HK can or if it's only the HX but the price difference would probably not be worth it
The hk also could as it is unlocked and you could fix the multipliers in throttlestop
I went through the exact same Razer to Alienware to Legion journey 😂 Finally ordered the Legion (Dell Germany has almost no customization options available right now, so that eased the decision).
Let me know how you get on with yours?
As an owner of the laptop, the 12800hx/3070ti version, it runs extremely hot. 100% gpu in gaming running at 83C with cooling pad. CPU intensive running at around 81C. Make sure you raise the back of this laptop for better airflow
Although yes that is hot, it seems to be the case with most of the 12th gen gaming laptops o have tested! These 12th gen CPUs are like furnaces and with the shared heat pipes or vapour chamber it often leads to higher gpu temps too
Good stuff David. What do you know about their warranty and support? How would you compare it to dells support on the alienwares?
The good news is they also offer onsite warranty like Dell, I wish every manufacturer had this option! But I don't think the phone support is as good as Dells but I haven't had a problem with a machine yet to test it myself (and I do have a lot of Lenovo laptops in service
Great. Thanks David
Thanks for the review. I just bought a 5i with 12700 and 3070 150 watt for a lot less (1702 USD after tax). Would love to see what the difference is between the 2.. in particular in the GPU side of things. I am super happy with it so far. Just subscribed and wish you well with the channel.
The 5i is also an amazing machine and is the best bang for the buck. I have reviewed that very configuration you have already so can easily compare 👍
The 3070ti is a small tad better, 3080ti would be noticeably better but not like wow! Better. The biggest difference between the 5i and 7i is that the 12th gen hx model cpus in the 7i are absurd with a relatively capable vapor chamber. For most games it won't matter though, the 5i is a great machine and although I love my 7i the 5i is a better value of performance per dollar.
@@dis3nchant3d42 I am blown away with my laptop with the exception of battery life. I need to do some research on the quickest way to change it to battery conservation.. I have read that you need to also put it to 60 hz refresh rate. Hope you have some time to get some gaming in on yours!
@@AkSeapilot where did you buy?
5i is trash
Vry first 12900hx Lenovo laptop review 🔥🔥🔥
Will be trying to tweak the cpu and doing a deep dive soon 👍
A question to all Legion 5 Pro owners cuz it was impossible to find in anywhere in the internet. Is it possible to record 16:9 while playing 16:9 on the laptop’s screen without any problems, unusual zooms, bluriness, etc?
5 and 7. All the 1600p 16:10 screens!
By default it will stretch the image to fit the 1200p but it doesn’t look too bad. The 1080p recording will come correctly though. You can also change you gfx settings to keep 1:1 scaling and the 1080 p will be displayed correctly but you will have black bars at top and bottom
From what I’ve heard, the included white key caps are ceramic and won’t transfer as much heat to your fingers while gaming.
doh, that makes perfect sense! why didn't I think of that
@@MashITTech I heard it from someone else, I wouldn’t have thought of it myself in a million years 😂
Can't wait for you full review, and will you test the all AMD model at some point as well?
I am looking to order an all amd version soon, just trying to raise the cash as I spent a fortune last month and my budget is quite small 😂
@@MashITTech Ha, yes, quite understandable, looking forward to that review as well when you get a chance!
Lenovo Legion ❤ Best Gaming Laptops
Hey, so according to u... Which antivirus software would u use exactly? Or there is no need for it at all?
I use the built in windows protection and I am careful with the sites I visit. I hate putting bloated AV software on my machines
Mash team... I just got the exact same rig and neither XTU nor Throttlestop work with it - both say that CPU overclocking/tweaking is disabled. I can only change power limits. Are you having the same problem or aware of a fix? I am also not getting anywhere near a sustained 150W power draw on the CPU that you mentioned more like 135W which is why I want to tweak it.
Go into BIOS and enable overclocking on the cpu, for some reason they have it disabled out of the box. I am just working on the deep dive video at the moment and that was one of the topics 😀👍
@@MashITTech Thx for the info but I don't see an option for that in the bios? Only something called restore default overclocking and that isnt unlocking the CPU. I am trying to update the bios now from Lenovo’s website.
Sorry I am not in the office so may have got the wording wrong. When I get on the machine I will give you the exact setting
@@MashITTech After updating to the new bios using the Lenovo Vantage software now I see the setting in the bios - CPU Unlock. Thanks so much for your help!
Is the laptop VR Ready/Supported? It doesn't have a DP port, so I wonder whether the back USB-C DP is connected to the Nvidia dGPU and supports the Index/Vive Pro.
It should do but I will need to check
The ones on the side connect to the gpu I believe
how do you find the screen on this laptop? how does the screen compare to a MacBook pro?
Holy smokes! Lenovo going all out with this one, guns blazing! That applies to the price too! 21k Cinebench score, add that mini LED 1200Nits HDR1000 cert panel and consider it a deal if you can get it for 5000 GBP lol.
Haha. I love Lenovos pricing! I am sure there will be a 30% voucher at Black Friday or something.
@@MashITTech facts
David, I think you can "upgrade" your reviews with one trick - not only show us noise but also let us hear the noise when the laptop is in silent, balanced, turbo or whatever the producer calls it, and then you can tell us which laptop is best in this category, thank you.
Thanks for the suggestion. I will see what I can do as that is a good idea. Thank you :)
Okay I was able to get a teacher discount on this and take 500 off. Question is would you suggest this computer same specs and everything or Alienware X15 R2 with basically same setup. i9 3080ti 2tb drive 32 ram. Torn between the 2. Also warranties. Would you say the 3 year extended warranty is worth it on legion? havent had a legion before and use the warranty or customer service. I know Alienware is good once you get a good person working with you. Figured I would ask and get recommendation with someone that has had both in hand. Also if I use external monitor most the time except when I travel (not a lot but occasional) would you say I lose much getting the current legion monitor and screen vs the other screens they are suppose to release.
I love alienware but would buy the legion 7 over it every time! It is so much more powerful whilst having much better ports, bugger brighter screen and upgradable ram. I have had a few legions over the years and all are still going strong but I would still get the warranty for piece of mind on such an expensive laptop. And I wouldn’t wait for the mini led, the current qhd+ panel is excellent and if you are also using an external save the money and time waiting for it
@@MashITTech would you say the 3 year extended a good amount. i have never dropped a laptop or spilled something on it so was thinking no to accidental but getting 3 years extended of their high tier coverage
3 years is the perfect amount as far as I am concerned, after that you will be probably looking to upgrade anyway
were you playing on full fan mode during gaming? Have you tested all of the fan modes in gaming? if so did you notice any difference perfornance wise?
Hi, yes this was in performance mode which allows the system to run full throttle. On balanced it is quieter but caps the cpu at about 45w and the gpu at 115w and lastly there is the quiet mode which is really quiet but caps the cpu at 24w and gpu at 40w 👍
Any idea when the 240hz version will be released?
No sorry or the mini led, I hope it’s soon
Great intro. 👍 I wouldn’t pay that much for this laptop so I’ll either get the 5i or wait it out to see if I can get the 7i at a more palatable price. I wonder if there is a comparison between the 5i with the 3070Ti and the 7i with the 3080?
In all fairness the 5i is a lot better value and performance is still amazing. My alienware is a 12700h and 3070ti and that is more than enough for me for 1080p and 1440p gaming
@@MashITTech thanks for the reply and your experience with your laptop. Hmm I may seriously consider the 5i soon. Cheers. 👍
I thought of buying but found very expensive and looks great though but ended up buying the legion 5i pro 2022 which seems to fit to the budget not a big rgb keyboard fan
Hi, I was just wondering if you could maybe compare this one to the slim version in the future
I certainly hope to do that soon
I just bought the one he is showing earlier today and got almost $700 off with my student discount and coupon. I waited forever for this thing. It was suppose to come out in May.
Yep, I thought they were never going to release it, we had the 5i pro 3 months ago! Glad you managed to finally buy it and seem you got a really good price too! Good news is, Lenovo have left this i9 unlocked so I am spending the weekend tweaking and testing. Will do a deep dive video next week
How does this unit compare against the MSI Titan GT77?
Very helpful impression, I'm looking to buy this as well
It is a beast of a laptop! I have been loving mine
Wow what a beast! Can't wait to see how much extra performance you'll be able to extract with ThrottleStop and some GPU Overclocking
Yeah wanted to rush out an initial video in stock settings but will spend the weekend tinkering with it to see whit it can do 👍
The legion Slim 7i Gen 7 (2022) ticks almost all boxes for me. Thank you for the nice video. But could you please review or add review of the mini LED Display option of this laptop. I have not been able to find any video on UA-cam showing the mini led display option of this laptop. Legion 7i slim gen 7 has a display option of MINI LED 165 Hz QHD VESA HDR 1000 certified with peak brightness of 1250 nits Gsync support. It would be great to know how this MINI LED panel compares with the similar latest MINI LED offerings from Apple, MSI, Asus, etc in terms of typical brightness, number of mini led backlights, color accuracy, etc.
Unfortunately Lenovo haven’t actually released the mini led yet so no one has been able to test it! As soon as they do I will try and get one in 👍
Please let us know about the 64GB DDR5 DIMMS compatibility. For me this is the deciding factor before I order the Legion. If it doesn't work I will look for the ASUS ROG STRIX SCAR 17 SE. Thanks
64gb ram just arrived! I still have a lot of testing to do over the weekend then I will test the RAM and put a video out on that and SSDs next week as I plan to install 4tb gen 4 ssds
Please if possible just post here before you upload the video that the memory works without issues. I would like to order mine by Monday so your feedback is a must! Thanks :)
I will do my best to fit it before Monday 👍
So far, there is only JEDEC in the BIOS. There used to be a way to find an advanced BIOS on legion but I haven't found it on this model yet
Not sure why Lenovo locked the XMP mode in such high end gaming laptop. I hope that you'll find a way to increase the timings.
I know the battery life will suck . I’m so stressed trying to decide between the 7 and 7i this will be my first HUGE purchase like this . This will be way better than my desk top even . I want battery life BUT it’s hard to look past all that POWER !
Battery life is pretty dire so far, I am trying to tweak it to improve it. Ryzen battery is at least double but performance on battery is also throttled
@@MashITTech the 6850xt is also 1k less that the 3080ti model . I’m trying to be realistic in how much I actually use the computer for content consumption and work . If I’m mostly gaming it’s gotta be plugged in anyways but if I’m spending that much I would hope I would use for everything IDK ITS SO HARD to figure out because I only use my work laptop for work . Thank you for the answers and replies good sir !
Yeah it is hard to justify the cost. I have an Alienware m17r5 with 6900hx and 6850xt arriving this week so I will be able to let you know how well that card performs but I think for gaming it will be pretty close to the 3080ti
@@MashITTech that would be cool . I have it sitting in my cart on Lenovos site . Just can’t pull the trigger yet until I have all the info . Also I’m afraid in a few months 4000 series laptops will start to trickle out so idk what to do !! Lol
Would you recommend the AMD with 3070 GPU for better battery?
Yes definitely! The amd version still games incredibly well and battery life is about 10 hours light use with screen at 60hz and rgb off
Amazing review! CoD WARZONE is my new fav game for the past 5 days LOL so nice benchmark. Thought you might want to know I had to spend little less on my laptop, so I ended up with a ryzen 5 rtx 3050 Asus rog strix. Probably will get a new laptop in 2 years or so right before I go to college. rtx 4060 should have 8gb vram and will be able to conquer any game as well as an rtx 3070 ti can, so Ill get better specs for the money. Tried to get the Alienware but Best Buy was cancelling my order, so my last resort was buying something cheap from best buy in store on the last day I had to spend money for my business program I enrolled into. I probably will send you some money by September for your amazing reviews. I think you should have at least 250k subscribers with how good your reviews are.
How’s the 3050 holding up in warzone? I was surprised at how well the 3050ti managed 1080p high settings on the m15r5 ryzen laptop so hope yours is running well too 👍
I can run it on full graphics but my computer keeps turning down the resolution. Didnt find a way to solve this issue. problem is im trying to run fullest graphics with 4gb of vram LOL I never really payed attention to my fps because it was really high due to the low resolution. But overall Its holding surprisinglly well:) . Once i figure how to run the resolution normally I can send you some avg fps benchmarks if you're interested. II can also send you pics of my whole set up too if you want. I got my laptop for 576 pounds. had to buy an extra stick of ram for 35 pounds. both combined including tax was 692 pounds. bought an rgb mouse pad for 11 pounds and a razer basilisk v3 for 50 pounds including tax. over all a pretty good set up I got:) Btw any chance you can accept Paypal donations? I could send a donation right now of 5 pounds I collected online. :D Again great video!
Thank you mate, it’s always greatly appreciated and goes back in to help find more laptops for review. It’s PayPal.me/MashITTech 😀 and yes I would love more details of your set up when you have it sorted, my email dave@mashababa.co.uk
I'd like to fold it up and game using external monitor. Is there a docking station out there powerful enough for this beast?
Yes for sure although you will need the PSU as well as the docking station as it uses more than 100w of PD power for full performance.
I got the Core i7 12800HX / RTX 3070Ti model about a month ago now. Unfortunately the BIOS is locked and the previous ways to unlock the Advanced Menu settings don't seem to work on this new model. I reached out to Lenovo customer service and they told me this new model didn't ship with the Advanced Menu settings unlike previous generation models, which I found hard to believe. At stock settings though, the laptop does a good job at keeping the internals cool (GPU temps run around 68 degrees Celsius under load for me) but it would still be nice to squeeze in a few degrees less and especially undervolt the CPU.
I haven’t dug around the bios or tweaked in TS or xtu with my i9 yet but if I find anything I will let you know. What sort of scores are you getting with the 12800hx? The i9 is such an expensive up charge I think the 12800hx is the better option
@@MashITTech Yes, I was very much concerned by the CPU temps under load if I went with the Core i9 and opted to go for i7 model instead as it appeared to be the sweet spot. I didn't run CineBench but if I remember correctly I scored around 12000 in TimeSpy.
Seems like that could be the best value option then. This 12900hx is so powerful I can’t imagine anyone needing this much horse power but I do love it 😂
@@MashITTech looking forward to bios and throttlestop inclusions as well in your full review(hopefully soon)..great video by the way..keep it up
@@ArunKR46 thank you. Will be on this machine all weekend and hope to have another video ready next week 👍
IT LOOKS REALLY GORGEOUS! My Legion 5i pro from last year looks old...
Yeah I love the direction Lenovo have taken this year
Would you recommend this laptop or the amd version?
For pure performance this one. For a cheaper laptop with better battery the AMD version. I am planning on getting the AMD in soon and will do a comparison video of them
I loved the video! I was looking to buy this laptop for video editing. Could you help me with this. How much of different does i9 make compared to i7? I have no idea could you help me with this and how. Cheers
In all honesty the difference is tiny. You would be better getting the i7 and putting the savings towards more ram and storage as that is really important for video editing
@@MashITTech so I was looking on google and it said that you need minimum speed required for editing is around 4.5 GHz and after checking Ryzen only goes upto 4.7 GHz while I9 goes upto 5Ghz. Apart from this Ryzen chip for legion is clocked at 3.2 (base) to 4.7 GHz (Turbo)
Does the chip automatically go upto 4.7 GHz or do we have to over clock it manually?
Can I request you to make video unboxing & hands on plus review for MSI Titan GT77?
I will try and get one in soon
Where I can buy it ?
You should be able to get it direct from the Lenovo website 👍
Pretty darn expensive it is.. right now on sale at Singapore Lenovo online.. ur same spec will be costing around 3k GBP and 12800hx with 3070ti is just 1850 gbp… that’s a steal I believe..
Wow, that’s an amazing price! Lenovo U.K. store are the worst 😢
@@MashITTech I live in India.. here also it’s crazy expensive.. hope the prizes come down sooner or later.. the i9 3080ti costs around 3.5L or 3.4K gbp.. if they don’t.. I’d better plan to buy it somewhere outside India for a cheaper price..
1850gbp but only 16gb ram and 512gb ssd
@@whatthefitt at 1800 quid that’s decent value.. for a 7i.. you pay for the product not just the ram and ssd.. if u want u can always upgrade as per ur need…
@@royalz45 Back in early July, I bought 12800hx 3070ti 1gb sdd 32gb ram at about GBP2210. Purchased it through a cashback app which had a one day special promo of 20% cashback - hopefully I will receive the cashback by October as stated. That will be a steal, lol. But still waiting for my laptop to arrive! Delivery got delayed 😕
Great video. My 2022 HP Omen with 12700H gets 14600ish in cinebench R23 multi score. This laptop is insane 🆙🆙🆙💪🏿
Thank you. The laptop is expensive but its a monster :)
love it awesome laptop will definitely upgrade my aging 5.5yr old laptop to the successor of this next year assuming they finally deliver this with an ecc memory and PD 240 via USB. 🤗
Just out of curiosity. Did you permanently buy this 4.4k$ with your own money or are going to return it after reviewing it? Is it kind of an investment for UA-cam? I mean you already probably have a lot of high end laptops with you and buying this much expensive laptop for a couple of videos are worth it? Nice video though 👍
I do buy it out of the business fund. We may keep them for a few months to do reviews and follow up videos then eventually sell them to put money back into the business for new laptops 👍
This is the reason why I want the HX version of the CPU. So I can downclock the CPU for better temps and quiet fans
Haha I want to test that too as I always need a quiet gaming option when playing near the wife 😂
A man of culture i see
Exactly why I went the I9 12900HX, can't wait to see what a mild undervolt can produce.
Perfect review!
Thanks :)
Any chance you could review the legion slim 7 and slim 7i?
Yes, I am hoping to get the slim 7i soon
Could you please compare Alienware x17 R2 vs this Lenovo Legion 7i? I'm seriously considering buying something powerful like this, perhaps on Black Friday, and so far my "short list" contains only these 2 notebooks. Albeit currently one might get Alienware for much lower price, but as you said price for Lenovo most probably will drop.
I will be doing that video for sure, I just have to finish the full review first then I will compare them 👍
Will you be testing the Lenevo legion 7 amd version ?
Yes as soon as I can afford to get it in! I only have a small budget 😢
I'm proud of myself that I handled me in hands and finally ended waiting 2023 laptops with 13700HX & 4080
I am not excited for the 13th gen as I think they will be throttlers like 12th gen but I am really looking forward to the 4000 series!
Did you manage to test the amd version ?
Not yet, I am out of money at the moment! As soon as I free some cash up I will get one ordered 👍
Aaaaaa just what I was waiting for
Incredible laptop and performance. The i7-12800HX seems a bit more reasonable in term of price (relatively speaking) but comes with only the 3070 TI.
Oh does it, is that is USA? I am pretty sure in U.K. we can configure the 12800hx with 3080ti 😕 hopefully it’s just teething issues
his config has the 3080ti. It's not available on the Lenovo website though.
Which region as it was on the U.K. website yesterday
@@MashITTech yes sir. USA
@@MashITTech On the french site, you cannot configure a 12800HX with a 3080ti. You can only get the 3080ti with the 12900HX and with a mandatory 32GB RAM (that you cannot change) for a whooping 1300 euros more.
Really thinking about getting the 5 pro, been waiting for lenovo to get product back in stock for a while. I think they are the most well rounded laptops from the reviews. Its funny seeing the specs on screen during CoD, my desktop with a 3700x cpu, 5700xt gpu, I get about 120 FPS at 1440p in ultra/high. But, my gpu temp is at 96 with the fans turned up LOL. Great for the winter though...
The 5 pro is an amazing machine, I reviewed this years model a while ago and it has to be the best bang for the buck! And in warzone, I haven’t even had time to tweak it, this was just 1600p max settings to see how it coped. I was also incredibly impressed with the temps and it didn’t even get that loud (less than the x17 and ge76 I have also reviewed)
Insane sir keep it up
So I guess this is the best money can buy right now. Insane cooling system
Ooh I think I'm in love with this thing! Looks beautiful! Is it true that the memory cannot be expanded any higher that 32gb? That would be my only gripe so far if it is. With such specs I reckon it should go up to 64gb at least.
you CAN upgrade to 64gb
@@frostgodx actually you can't. I just did some searching & saw a question on Lenovos website asking this very thing, where someone wanted to know if they could install 2 x 32gb ram. The reply from Lenovo themselves was no. A maximum of 2 x 16gb is all that you can do on the new legion 7i. This was on Lenovo US site under the Q&A section for the Legion 7 series. Very disappointing. It is possible an incorrect reply was given by the CSR (wouldn't be the 1st time) but I can't find a more in-depth spec sheet to download to check to see what the max the motherboard will allow.
I don’t believe that for a second! I think they made a mistake in that they don’t allow you to configure with 64gb. I have just ordered 2x32gb crucial sticks so will be testing asap and will let you know 👍
@@MashITTech thanks. I just edited my comment below to say the CSR at Lenovo might have given an incorrect reply. It would be bonkers with all that specced out hardware to have an upgradeable limit of 32gb. I shall look forward to your review & proving them wrong!
@@madcatter972 i concur with mash IT on this one the lenovo reps that handle the social interactions are usually untrained and companies generally specify weird things. I can confirm 100% that you can upgrade to 64gb as i have this laptop on hand and have done so using Crucial memory. You should note a good example of this is Asus with their G14 showing 24gb max and even the g15 and m16 models showing strange max capacities that are completely incorrect. They and lenovo as well as almost all other brands but maybe MSI all seem to have disconnected reps that do not relay the correct information.
If it's going to offer same performance and constrained thermals as the nearly $5k MSI GT77 Titan or $3k-$5k GE77HX Raider without their bulky 17" chassis, it could very well be the best gaming laptop of this summer, especially given the screen might be better than the 1440p of the Raider or on par or worse than the 4k option on Titan, however this statement has potential to be true provided this newer Legion 7i gets released and becomes available in retailers now... and not like last year, when the release of prev gen Legion 7 was scheduled for Q2, devices started to land in shops later in Q4, with pricing somewhat palpatable only by early Q1 following year (with a few coupons on black friday/christmas sales when more than a few devices became available)... Still this slimmer design and 16" chassis might be better suited to the possible AMD Advantage 6ks' pairing that Lenovo has also promised in Legion 7 line-up. Testers and reviewers would have to check and verify the cooling solution's prowess and energy efficiency in both Intel and AMD variants.
yes. but its $7k in australia.
these premium tech products are ridiculously over priced.
@@tatooine_dream Well they did have a chance of understandable pricing or acceptable one when all the tech in desktop space jumped in pricing, especially with GPUs sky-rocketing past twice the MSRPs, with MSRPs already pumped... as we're seeing now a decrease of prices for many computer components, these laptops need to offer something extra to warrant such pricing, and chief amongst the factors are actual availability (not just single press example device and paper launch, nor the devices "buyable" at retail/en masse but with quarter or more of wait/build/transport wait-time till actual arrival), performance/thermals (so as not to pay extra for gear that cannot actually be even used unless one wants to turn the laptop into a frying pan or hair dryer) and sane pricing (compared to competition and other PC market offerings)...
One thing I’m wondering is can you put 64 gb of ddr5 without any issues I see that the maximum they have so far is 32 I never had any legions laptop or products decided on this new legions or wait until Alienware x17 r3 comes out
I am about to test that and will add results in my deep dive coming this week
Dave all the other reviews of this are showing major CPU issues when also using the video card.. The CPU is only able to pull like 45 watts even in the extreme performance mode. Do you still have this and are you having the same issue? The MSI GT77 and even GE67HX are so far beyond this it's not even close.
I don’t still have this one but it does have this issue. The small chassis seems to be only able to sustain about 200w between the cpu and gpu
@@MashITTech Weird when my 2021 sustains 230 between both and that's with just the 3070. My frequency never goes below 90 watts or 3.8ghz when gaming with GPU at 140W. Thanks for the reply, it's not for me this time. Perhaps the 6900HX model is more interesting this year.
How can you find one with a 12 gen hk and a 3080? Can’t find any in the USA
Do you mean hx or are you looking for the older hk?
@@MashITTech the newer one, I guess I got the 2 confused
great review i like your channel
Thank you so much
Isn’t the Asus scar SE more powerful? Seeing as it has a higher clocked cpu ?
Is it? I will check it out? Also what size is it? I wonder if Lenovo are using the most powerful claim as there are no other 16” with that cpu!
@@MashITTech 17 inches. I believe the Scar se and Titan are currently the most powerful desktop replacement laptops. The Scar SE is sold at a much more affordable price as well, as opposed to both, Legion, and Titan. Lenovo must lower the price for both 7i and 7 Advantage, as it stands, it is ridiculously priced.
Lenovo legion 7i, Asus rog strix scar 15 or msi GP66hx?
A lot would depend on price I. Your region but I personally would take the legion 7
In your full review, Highly Appreciate if you could compare :
1) the 12800HX (gen 7 L7i) vs 12700H (gen 7 5i) vs 5900HX/5800H (gen 6 L7) in excel functions, just for us office lovers who want a gaming laptop for dual purpose!
Please let me know if you would include it in the full review, as many of my friends would watch your full review video just for that!
As we all have the gen 6 legion 7 some with 5900HX and some with 5800H.
2) Also what are the differences in 32gb ddr4 and 32gb ddr5 in real life applications?
3) Is the killer wifi that much better in wifi connection than the gen 6 legion 7 which i have?
Anyways, keep up the good work, you might have low subscribers now but i love your videos, has a nice vibe to it, wish you well to hit 6 digits soon.
Cheers!
I can't get hold of the 12800hx at the moment but could test the other CPUs. We still have a legion 7 with 5800h/3080 in the office 👍 So far I have noticed very little difference between DDR4 and DDR5 but I will try and find some actual data to present. the killer wifi on this model has been rock solid so far on my wifi 6 router and older AC router. And thanks for the kind words :)
@@MashITTech the 12900HX is a good substitute for the 12800HX, so yeah it would be cool if you compare them in excel.
Can the storage memory be upgraded to 4 TB.
I love this laptop
yes, watch the deep dive video and I show you how, plus I installed 64gb ram :)
@@MashITTech please send video link
@@MashITTech I bought 1TB , 32 GB... Would like upgrade to 4TB, 64gb...
sorry it was our last video so thought you may have seen it, here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/D8agENFJR5c/v-deo.html I also put in links for the SSDs and RAM I have tested.
1st thx for this beautiful vide
2nd PLEASE MAKE ASAP GEN 6 VS GEN 7 VIDEO PLEASE!!(
That is on the list. I need to do the full review first 👍
@@MashITTech Yes I know you have a lot of work but Redit and Discord is full of user waiting someone to do this :)
I will make sure to prioritise it I promise