The problem is all four of those schools are really isolated, and no Group Of Five Teams want to travel such distances just to play a game or two every Season. It would be like Hawai'i joining Conference USA. Besides- imagine the Travel Budget for those schools if they joined the MWC...
They already "test patterned" the effort when the dynamic Cam Skattebo Transferred from there and made Arizona State a force of nature in 2024!😂☀️😈🏈B.W.
The problem here: those boosters have NOT donated. They’ve pledged to donate. Sac State needs the freaking cash. Even then, it’s no accident that the D-1 powers have made it significantly harder to move up. That’s why the Mountain West has resisted most FCS schools while taking UC Davis WITHOUT football… for now.
North Dakota St. Definitely would not be going from the top of the FCS to the bottom of the FBS if they moved up, because remember they were a hail mary short of beating coach Prime Colorado squad who are ranked this season 👍
You are absolutely right. If Sam Houston State, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, and Appalachian State can succeed at the FBS level, why can’t North Dakota State?
Liberty hasn’t been living up to expectations this year but there team has been solid for a while to where they could make the jump out of the CUSA bc there honestly good enough
@@MetalMania-q2v at least Liberty showed that their not a bottom feeder in the FBS. I do expect every team to have a few down seasons, but in a couple of years from moving up they did make it to a New Years 6 bowl. NDSU could do that and maybe more 👍
The unfortunate part of why a lot of these programs haven’t moved up is unfortunately money. NDSU, SDSU and others haven’t made that jump purely because of the financial burden of scholarships and travel. In a perfect world, that wouldn’t matter but here we are.
@@holasoyalejandro9822 Hate to be that guy. Basketball doesn't have FCS. Which explains why St. Peter's can knock off Kentucky and Cleveland State can upset Indiana. All four Programs are authentic D1 in Hoops.🤔🏀B.W.
@@madbrowniac7871 i never said it was a thing. Football is way more expensive to run than other sports. that’s why i said fcs wouldn’t exist. it would be D1 football “like other sports”
@@GracieSkywalkeror they could just be an independent FBS program like UConn, or be a football only member of a conference and I don't think they even consider the idea, it's a lateral move they're making a pretty good chunk of change off that Big East contract.
Ultimately Nova’s stadium will prevent them from ever moving. The Big East, just before the football part imploded, asked them to jump to FBS. The catch was that they would have to find a bigger venue for home games. There is zero room, on or near campus to expand the existing stadium or build a new one. If it weren’t for the stadium problem, Villanova could easily be “Wake Forest North” in the ACC.
Rhode Island, UAlbany, New Hampshire, Villanova and possibly Stony Brook should move up and join with UMass, UConn, Temple, Buffalo and Delaware to create a northeast G5 conference
Under the right circumstances for conference alignment that could turn into a Power 6 with the Big East being brought back. Teams like Louisville and Syracuse could go back to this new Big East like they were before and I think it would be very interesting with how that would play out. Villanova, UConn, Syracuse, and Louisville would all have a reunion in that scenario and it wouldn’t just be limited to basketball either. The other 4 on your list to be included to make the 8 team minimum requirement I believe would be Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Delaware, and Temple. If they decided to go with 10 teams for this Big East reiteration then of course Albany and Stony Brook could make the cut.
Surprisingly as a MAC fan a majority of these teams could compete and win a MAC title within a few years. The bottom of the conference is historically awful and the top of the conference is decent and competitive.
I remember an interview with someone associated with NDSU who stated logistics was a big factor. Travel would impact the budget which would use up most of the expected revenue gains. In a sparsely populated area it would be difficult to grow the fan base and TV audience.
The Chattanooga Mocs have an outside chance of getting into a major conference good City in a pretty good size student population in a fertile recruiting area
The only problem is that Chatt will not commit. They would be a perfect Sun Belt (Group Of 5 SEC lol) Conference. There would be built in rivals with GA State, App State, GA Southern, etc.... And of course MTSU in C-USA and the occasional beatdown by their big brothers the Vols in Knoxville. But they would have to commit with resources and stadium and facilities upgrades. But it seems that they are not willing to commit to make that jump. If they did, they could be really good. They are smack dab in the middle of fertile recruiting grounds. Chattanooga is a cool little city to recruit to. If they committed and did it right, UTC could be a Group of 5 powerhouse. And I am a die hard Vols fan. But I root for the smaller Tennessee schools. Memphis should be a Power 4 school definitely.
Just take ALL the current division designations and defenestrate. For those who didn’t go to college, that word means throw ‘em out the window. Take the conferences and do the same. Organize by merit, promotion and relegation, create levels in a pyramid so that the top level is one or two 12-school divisions that play each other (the national championship can then simply be a bowl game between the two champions). By the third or fourth level, there are very regional divisions. Reward schools for success instead of rewarding schools like Purdue for hanging on in a conference with 3-4 big powers. However, a small percentage of top level revenues need to be distributed as rewards for winning a 4th-tier division and/or moving up.
It was all fun and games until the Mountain West cemented their relationship with Hawaii… and ended the travel subsidy requirement Hawaii was burdened to provide. There’s no guarantee that the Mountain West will increase their TV revenue, especially since they just lost their big ticket schools. Not that Tarleton doesn’t have some distance travel burdens already with the UAC, but the west ain’t cheap.
The only conferences that would take any of these schools are CUSA (aka CFCS) and the mountain west I don’t see any other conference taking an FCS school unless they get raided
That's what i get for commenting before watching the video lol. I agree the Big 12 has plenty of options available and won't come anywhere close to the FCS schools. USF, Memphis, Tulane are their likely first 3 if they need to backfill or expand.
Youngstown State applied to the MAC the same year Marshall and NIU did in 1995. Marshall and NIU was accepted as new members after the 1996 season. The MAC rejected Youngstown State for two reasons 1) Their athletic budget, at the time, YSUs athletic budget was only 9.7 million across YSU entire athletics, MAC schools budgets were all like 23-28 million at the time and 2) Youngstown was not Title IX complaint, as a matter of fact YSU had never been complaint and wasn't actually compliant until 2002.
Youngstown State will never be in the MAC. It would be overkill to have 3 schools within an hour of each other in a dying area of the state. Kent State is literally the next county over, and Akron is a county over from that.
I went to Toledo and I feel like it wouldn’t hurt to add Youngstown State to the MAC. I would even look at Albany to give Buffalo and UMass a new regional rival.
@unclederrsports I just can't see them getting the support from Akron or Kent. Even if it's 75% to vote them, that's only one more no vote to keep them out. I think Kent would have an ally in BG, also could see UMASS saying no to anything that isn't closer to them. 2nd could work if it's an expansion to 16 with 2 East someone like Stony Brook, Albany, Rhode Island, etc. Just not sure if it would ever happen.
sleeper team to me who should be on here is butler, currently 9-2, do a great job of recruiting local guys in Indianapolis, and have done a good job producing high level talent in both football and basketball.
There is some trending stuff in California to create a "California league" This would include: USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, UC Davis, San Diego St, Fresno St, San Jose St, Cal Poly, and Sac St.
If Youngstown State makes the jump up then Kent State needs to make the jump down. Too many G5 schools in Ohio already. Youngstown at least fills the niche of being a FCS school.
Grand Canyon State should be in the conversation. They have the resources to make the jump and are more than willing to go to the FBS as a member of the Mountain West. The Phoenix market would make the Mountain West salivate. I’m going to give a surprising name that’s in a massive market that would make for an interesting jump to FBS, Fordham. Decent program in a massive market (New York), and a supportive alumni base. Issue: Size. Since space can be at a premium in New York, getting them to upgrade their stadium to FBS standards might be difficult. I think they’d make a nice fit in the MAC, and boy would they love to tap into that NYC market. Will they make the jump? Doubtful.
Eventually it’ll be broken up. Look across the FCS landscape the last 20 years. App St was a power house, gone. James Madison power house, gone. SHSU won a title, gone. Delaware won a title, gone. GA Southern and Marshall were power houses in the 90s, gone. Eventually the MAC, Sun Belt, C USA, AAC, or MTW will be desperate and reach out.
Once the Pac-12 has it's numbers to sponsor football (by adding Texas State). I think the MWC will add NDSU as a football only member for a Central Time Zone team & a viability of the brand. SHSU will replace TSU in the Sun Belt. I see New Hampshire rather than URI going to the MAC-east.
Weber State have the basketball arena, known for Damian Lillard and is a school growing more and more. Issue is the football team isn’t the powerhouse it once was and need a bigger stadium.
Yeah Weber State isn’t as good as they used to be but they lost their head coach Jay Hill to BYU. Weber State would have great in state rivals though. Utah State is one of them they could do.
All of these ‘suggestions’ will never come to fruition. Two reasons are the size of their stadiums and lack of media markets for most. The money ain’t there to take chances.
here me out, have the 3 worse fbs schools play the three best fcs schools in a promotion game, if the fcs team wins, they move up while the fbs school could either stay or drop to the fcs
I think other teams who could join is Montana (good football history and a good partner to Montana State, also UC Davis could be good because they are having an amazing season and could fit in the new MWC.
I really hope the Montanas and Dakotas DON'T move up. I want to see a league with all 4 Dakota schools, , the 2 Montana schools, Idaho, and one more (Weber State? Wyoming?). That's way more entertaining than seeing NDSU travel to Ohio or Montana State travel to Corvallis for a random game no one cares about at all. Rivaries and regionalism need to matter more than ever beyond the P4 and first couple of G5s. The MAC isn't going to suddenly be great because they added UMASS, all that does is drive up the travel budget for ESPN to MAYBE give them an extra 100k. The 12 team MAC from Buffalo to Chicago is perfect.
@@IEmulateGames Incarnate Word Could Move To The FBS If They Moved Over To Alamo Stadium That Could Hold Up To 25,000 People All Wearing Red & Black. Go Cardinals.
Plus If Portland State Would've Also Move To The FBS Then Why Can't They Go Back To Playing Their Home Games At Providence Park With A 25,218 Capacity Wearing Green & White. Go Vikings.
And Jacksonville Should Reinstate Their Football Program Move To The FBS And Go Play Their Home Games At Everbank Stadium With 82,000 People All Wearing Forest Green White & Vegas Gold. Go Dolphins.
+ Detroit Needs To Reinstate Their Football Program Move To Division 1 Become A FBS Team Go Play Their Home Games At Ford Field With 70,000 People All Wearing Blue Red & White. Go Titans.
I saw semo and was like SIU better be on this list… I went there for years during their revival over the last 8ish years. I was there for the end of NDSU’s streak, SIU needs more love and they could succeed in the FBS. Been a top 15 school for like 7 years when injuries don’t hit their QB room.
You know those adults who just HAVE to win when they play kids, so there they are on Thanksgiving, out in the back yard, stiff-arming their nephews into the dirt? That's NDSU at the FCS level. Go play someone your own size.
Mentioning Montana State and not Montana is wild. Montana is not only one of the most storied FCS programs of all time, but are the big brothers to Montana State WITH A NEAR 2 TO 1 ALL-TIME RECORD. Did you genuinely just Google FCS teams and make this list?
I don't think we should have any more FBS call-ups. There's already enough teams at that level and we don't want to dwindle the FCS level as well. And, I'd rather go for national championships than a meaningless Bowl win.
You should have mentioned UT Chattanooga and Eastern Kentucky to the Sun Belt conference and No to Richmond in the Sun Belt conference they already have ODU and JMU
The only problem is that Chatt will not commit. They would be a perfect Sun Belt (Group Of 5 SEC lol) Conference. There would be built in rivals with GA State, App State, GA Southern, etc.... And of course MTSU in C-USA and the occasional beatdown by their big brothers the Vols in Knoxville. But they would have to commit with resources and stadium and facilities upgrades. But it seems that they are not willing to commit to make that jump. If they did, they could be really good. They are smack dab in the middle of fertile recruiting grounds. Chattanooga is a cool little city to recruit to. If they committed and did it right, UTC could be a Group of 5 powerhouse. And I am a die hard Vols fan. But I root for the smaller Tennessee schools. Memphis should be a Power 4 school definitely.
I know that bro said he didn’t take financials into account but UNI is the most poverty school in the valley. There is zero chance they have the money for the jump
@@Thomas-wg9lh yeah I understand the rivalry. I’m an NDSU fan. That’s why I said it would be ideal. I still don’t see it as necessary. FBS is more important than the rivalry.
Why would ndsu go to a conference where they would get their asses kicked on a weekly basis, and with the exception to Sacramento most of those cities have very small airports if any at all so convincing the power 4 conferences members to go to those schools might be a problem unless the towns are willing to expand their existing infrastructure or add new airports and lodging
Lmao SEMO athletics are not on the same level as Mo state. Not with facilities or financials. They might be ranked higher but I would take Mo state in a head to head matchup all day.
Honorable mentions: Montana North Dakota South Dakota Tarleton State Abilene Christian Incarnate Word Lamar Stephen F. Austin McNeese State Southeastern Louisiana Nicholls State UC Davis Idaho Northern Arizona Eastern Washington Weber State Northern Colorado Tennessee Tech Tennessee State UT Martin New Hampshire Maine Stony Brook Elon Towson William & Mary Monmouth Albany Hampton Campbell South Carolina State NC Central Illinois State Northern Iowa Murray State Duquesne Lehigh Holy Cross Georgetown Drake Butler San Diego Davidson Dayton Mercer Western Carolina Chattanooga East Tennessee State Samford Wofford Furman Eastern Kentucky Central Arkansas Austin Peay
The only problem is that Chatt will not commit. They would be a perfect Sun Belt (Group Of 5 SEC lol) Conference. There would be built in rivals with GA State, App State, GA Southern, etc.... And of course MTSU in C-USA and the occasional beatdown by their big brothers the Vols in Knoxville. But they would have to commit with resources and stadium and facilities upgrades. But it seems that they are not willing to commit to make that jump. If they did, they could be really good. They are smack dab in the middle of fertile recruiting grounds. Chattanooga is a cool little city to recruit to. If they committed and did it right, UTC could be a Group of 5 powerhouse. And I am a die hard Vols fan. But I root for the smaller Tennessee schools. Memphis should be a Power 4 school definitely.
There is a rumor that NDSU, SDSU, and Montana, and Montana State made a pitch for all 4 to move up to the MWC.
The problem is all four of those schools are really isolated, and no Group Of Five Teams want to travel such distances just to play a game or two every Season. It would be like Hawai'i joining Conference USA.
Besides- imagine the Travel Budget for those schools if they joined the MWC...
@@brianknapp6215Umm Cal and Stanford is going all the way to the east coast every other weekend
@brianknapp6215 it would work if their grouped but if they got separately then I agree.
@@GracieSkywalker True, but do those four have the same money as Cal and Stanford? Well, Stanford since Cal is over its head in debt.
@brianknapp6215 ok is Washington in the big ten making more sense right now no so this wouldn't be a big deal
Sac State wants to be in the FBS REALLY BAD! Their boosters have donated mad money to the cause. I was shocked 😂
They probably will, but they can’t for another 2 years due to NCAA funding restrictions
They already "test patterned" the effort when the dynamic Cam Skattebo Transferred from there and made Arizona State a force of nature in 2024!😂☀️😈🏈B.W.
Sac State to Pac-8
The problem here: those boosters have NOT donated. They’ve pledged to donate. Sac State needs the freaking cash.
Even then, it’s no accident that the D-1 powers have made it significantly harder to move up. That’s why the Mountain West has resisted most FCS schools while taking UC Davis WITHOUT football… for now.
North Dakota St. Definitely would not be going from the top of the FCS to the bottom of the FBS if they moved up, because remember they were a hail mary short of beating coach Prime Colorado squad who are ranked this season 👍
You are absolutely right. If Sam Houston State, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, and Appalachian State can succeed at the FBS level, why can’t North Dakota State?
It was week one cu destroys them now Idaho almost upset number 1 Oregon week one
Liberty hasn’t been living up to expectations this year but there team has been solid for a while to where they could make the jump out of the CUSA bc there honestly good enough
@@MetalMania-q2v at least Liberty showed that their not a bottom feeder in the FBS. I do expect every team to have a few down seasons, but in a couple of years from moving up they did make it to a New Years 6 bowl. NDSU could do that and maybe more 👍
@@J-TROLL ur very right and I mean I do agree w the fact that ndsu should move up
The unfortunate part of why a lot of these programs haven’t moved up is unfortunately money. NDSU, SDSU and others haven’t made that jump purely because of the financial burden of scholarships and travel. In a perfect world, that wouldn’t matter but here we are.
if money weren’t an issue, i don’t think the FCS would even exist. it would all be D1, D2 and D3 like all other sports
@@holasoyalejandro9822 Hate to be that guy. Basketball doesn't have FCS. Which explains why St. Peter's can knock off Kentucky and Cleveland State can upset Indiana. All four Programs are authentic D1 in Hoops.🤔🏀B.W.
@@madbrowniac7871 i never said it was a thing. Football is way more expensive to run than other sports. that’s why i said fcs wouldn’t exist. it would be D1 football “like other sports”
@@holasoyalejandro9822 Correct. I should have paid closer attention to what You Wrote. Feliz Navidad, Alejandro!😁🎅🏻🤶🎄🎀🎁🏈⚾️🏀B.W.
It's less about money than logistics and TV markets
Villanova is a good logical school that could jump to FBS soon.
They would half to leave the big east in basketball and join the American which the way it’s looking so far this year not a bad idea
Villanova isn't even close to a point where they can financially hold a FBS level program and they aren't serious enough about football to even try to
@@GracieSkywalkeror they could just be an independent FBS program like UConn, or be a football only member of a conference and I don't think they even consider the idea, it's a lateral move they're making a pretty good chunk of change off that Big East contract.
Ultimately Nova’s stadium will prevent them from ever moving. The Big East, just before the football part imploded, asked them to jump to FBS. The catch was that they would have to find a bigger venue for home games. There is zero room, on or near campus to expand the existing stadium or build a new one. If it weren’t for the stadium problem, Villanova could easily be “Wake Forest North” in the ACC.
@@markd2344stadium capacity rule no longer exist so that isn’t an issue anymore
Rhode Island, UAlbany, New Hampshire, Villanova and possibly Stony Brook should move up and join with UMass, UConn, Temple, Buffalo and Delaware to create a northeast G5 conference
Under the right circumstances for conference alignment that could turn into a Power 6 with the Big East being brought back. Teams like Louisville and Syracuse could go back to this new Big East like they were before and I think it would be very interesting with how that would play out. Villanova, UConn, Syracuse, and Louisville would all have a reunion in that scenario and it wouldn’t just be limited to basketball either. The other 4 on your list to be included to make the 8 team minimum requirement I believe would be Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Delaware, and Temple. If they decided to go with 10 teams for this Big East reiteration then of course Albany and Stony Brook could make the cut.
IIRC Delaware in 2025 will move up to join The AAC.🏈B.W.
Now do worst FBS schools that need to move down to the FCS 😅
Umass
@@Goobster-f7junconn for non football sports. Kent state, Rutgers, Norrhwestern. To name a few
Florida State
@@Denozo88no power 4 schools should move down, that doesn’t make any sense
@maxminelli1159 nope.
Surprisingly as a MAC fan a majority of these teams could compete and win a MAC title within a few years. The bottom of the conference is historically awful and the top of the conference is decent and competitive.
Wow you are pumping out these videos like crazy, and they’re all bangers 🔥
I remember an interview with someone associated with NDSU who stated logistics was a big factor. Travel would impact the budget which would use up most of the expected revenue gains. In a sparsely populated area it would be difficult to grow the fan base and TV audience.
The Chattanooga Mocs have an outside chance of getting into a major conference good City in a pretty good size student population in a fertile recruiting area
The only problem is that Chatt will not commit. They would be a perfect Sun Belt (Group Of 5 SEC lol) Conference. There would be built in rivals with GA State, App State, GA Southern, etc.... And of course MTSU in C-USA and the occasional beatdown by their big brothers the Vols in Knoxville. But they would have to commit with resources and stadium and facilities upgrades. But it seems that they are not willing to commit to make that jump. If they did, they could be really good. They are smack dab in the middle of fertile recruiting grounds. Chattanooga is a cool little city to recruit to. If they committed and did it right, UTC could be a Group of 5 powerhouse. And I am a die hard Vols fan. But I root for the smaller Tennessee schools. Memphis should be a Power 4 school definitely.
Chattanooga to either Sun Belt, C-USA or AAC.
This was a good video
The Idahos, Montanas, and Dakotas could all just make their own FBS conference. Throw in Wyoming, the Iowas, and Nebraska. Boom.
Iowa and Nebraska not leaving the big10 to join Fcs schools 😭
@ thanks for insight.
Bro totally missed mentioning Eastern Washington University. Perfect replacement for a Washington travel location in the PAC12
Just take ALL the current division designations and defenestrate. For those who didn’t go to college, that word means throw ‘em out the window.
Take the conferences and do the same.
Organize by merit, promotion and relegation, create levels in a pyramid so that the top level is one or two 12-school divisions that play each other (the national championship can then simply be a bowl game between the two champions). By the third or fourth level, there are very regional divisions. Reward schools for success instead of rewarding schools like Purdue for hanging on in a conference with 3-4 big powers. However, a small percentage of top level revenues need to be distributed as rewards for winning a 4th-tier division and/or moving up.
I hear talk about Tarleton State being a possibility for the mountain west.
As a Tarleton student, we need to stay FCS
@@LoBob_ Why do you say? Genuinely asking
It was all fun and games until the Mountain West cemented their relationship with Hawaii… and ended the travel subsidy requirement Hawaii was burdened to provide.
There’s no guarantee that the Mountain West will increase their TV revenue, especially since they just lost their big ticket schools. Not that Tarleton doesn’t have some distance travel burdens already with the UAC, but the west ain’t cheap.
The only conferences that would take any of these schools are CUSA (aka CFCS) and the mountain west I don’t see any other conference taking an FCS school unless they get raided
Even the Sun Belt?
NDSU almost beat Colorado this year they should def be in the big 12
Should Idaho be in the big10 😱
No FCS school is jumping straight to the power 5. That’s not how this works
There is no power 5 anymore, only power 4. Pac 12 isn't anywhere CLOSE.
@ this was in reference to the teams he was suggesting might go big 12
@ but you are correct. Power 4 not 5
That's what i get for commenting before watching the video lol. I agree the Big 12 has plenty of options available and won't come anywhere close to the FCS schools. USF, Memphis, Tulane are their likely first 3 if they need to backfill or expand.
@ agreed. Honestly it’s crazy that Memphis isn’t in a power conference
I'm surprised Youngstown didn't follow akron into the mac
Youngstown State applied to the MAC the same year Marshall and NIU did in 1995. Marshall and NIU was accepted as new members after the 1996 season. The MAC rejected Youngstown State for two reasons 1) Their athletic budget, at the time, YSUs athletic budget was only 9.7 million across YSU entire athletics, MAC schools budgets were all like 23-28 million at the time and 2) Youngstown was not Title IX complaint, as a matter of fact YSU had never been complaint and wasn't actually compliant until 2002.
Youngstown State will never be in the MAC. It would be overkill to have 3 schools within an hour of each other in a dying area of the state. Kent State is literally the next county over, and Akron is a county over from that.
I went to Toledo and I feel like it wouldn’t hurt to add Youngstown State to the MAC. I would even look at Albany to give Buffalo and UMass a new regional rival.
@unclederrsports I just can't see them getting the support from Akron or Kent. Even if it's 75% to vote them, that's only one more no vote to keep them out. I think Kent would have an ally in BG, also could see UMASS saying no to anything that isn't closer to them. 2nd could work if it's an expansion to 16 with 2 East someone like Stony Brook, Albany, Rhode Island, etc. Just not sure if it would ever happen.
I’d like to see the four Dakota schools in the Big Sky Conference. Great games.
sleeper team to me who should be on here is butler, currently 9-2, do a great job of recruiting local guys in Indianapolis, and have done a good job producing high level talent in both football and basketball.
You should do a video on FBS schools that should probably move down to FCS, UConn for example
I love the fcs videos can you make a video breaking down the fcs top 10
YSU MENTIOND 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Also it's pronounced StAm-baugh Stadium
There is some trending stuff in California to create a "California league" This would include: USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, UC Davis, San Diego St, Fresno St, San Jose St, Cal Poly, and Sac St.
If Youngstown State makes the jump up then Kent State needs to make the jump down. Too many G5 schools in Ohio already. Youngstown at least fills the niche of being a FCS school.
Dawg, if any school in the MAC should go down its Akron, 6 seasons have seen them win a total of 9 games(4 of them being FCS games)
Take a look at all the fun Idaho had had at that level, with around 3 winning seasons over some 20 years.
URI in the FBS is a joke. They’re also not that far off from very nearly deciding to drop down to a lower level FCS conference.
Grand Canyon State should be in the conversation. They have the resources to make the jump and are more than willing to go to the FBS as a member of the Mountain West. The Phoenix market would make the Mountain West salivate.
I’m going to give a surprising name that’s in a massive market that would make for an interesting jump to FBS, Fordham. Decent program in a massive market (New York), and a supportive alumni base. Issue: Size. Since space can be at a premium in New York, getting them to upgrade their stadium to FBS standards might be difficult. I think they’d make a nice fit in the MAC, and boy would they love to tap into that NYC market. Will they make the jump? Doubtful.
they don’t even have a football team
Let’s just leave the Big Sky conference alone. It is really fun to watch just the way it is. Montana State Alum and season ticket holder.
Eventually it’ll be broken up. Look across the FCS landscape the last 20 years. App St was a power house, gone. James Madison power house, gone. SHSU won a title, gone. Delaware won a title, gone. GA Southern and Marshall were power houses in the 90s, gone. Eventually the MAC, Sun Belt, C USA, AAC, or MTW will be desperate and reach out.
Villanova would fit well in the American given Temple is a member as well creating a natural rivalry
Temple would likely say HELL NO to Nova.Nova kept Temple from being a full member of the BE when it was forming in 1990.
It would make more sense if Nova and Temple just switched places.
Once the Pac-12 has it's numbers to sponsor football (by adding Texas State). I think the MWC will add NDSU as a football only member for a Central Time Zone team & a viability of the brand. SHSU will replace TSU in the Sun Belt. I see New Hampshire rather than URI going to the MAC-east.
NDSU, SDSU, and Northern Iowa are all in the Big 12 in wrestling so I would think it would make sense to have them join the Big 12 in Football
Thts a huge jump from FCs to FBs p4 they should start off in the g5
Weber State have the basketball arena, known for Damian Lillard and is a school growing more and more. Issue is the football team isn’t the powerhouse it once was and need a bigger stadium.
Yeah Weber State isn’t as good as they used to be but they lost their head coach Jay Hill to BYU. Weber State would have great in state rivals though. Utah State is one of them they could do.
Even when they are winning, they cannot fill their current stadium.
@ they usually don’t unless it’s against rivals like either Montana school, Idaho State or Northern Arizona.
Uc davis could he one there number 4 rn and went to Natty 2018
Please have Sacramento State make the leap! Sacramento has tons of talent that would stay once the moved up and got the new stadium !
We want to see Richmond play in the FBS. Instead, we're gonna see Richmond play in an FCS conference that's worse than the CAA next season.
Hey. Morw attention by the C USA for them to keep dominating and join
Richmond sealed their fate when thy opened Robins Stadium with 8200 seats. And they don't even fill it.
All of these ‘suggestions’ will never come to fruition. Two reasons are the size of their stadiums and lack of media markets for most. The money ain’t there to take chances.
UC Davis? Also the Dakota schools said they won’t move up
here me out, have the 3 worse fbs schools play the three best fcs schools in a promotion game, if the fcs team wins, they move up while the fbs school could either stay or drop to the fcs
I think other teams who could join is Montana (good football history and a good partner to Montana State, also UC Davis could be good because they are having an amazing season and could fit in the new MWC.
Southern Illinois would fit in the SBC or MAC. Wherever SEMO goes, they need to go for the rivalry
I really hope the Montanas and Dakotas DON'T move up. I want to see a league with all 4 Dakota schools, , the 2 Montana schools, Idaho, and one more (Weber State? Wyoming?). That's way more entertaining than seeing NDSU travel to Ohio or Montana State travel to Corvallis for a random game no one cares about at all. Rivaries and regionalism need to matter more than ever beyond the P4 and first couple of G5s. The MAC isn't going to suddenly be great because they added UMASS, all that does is drive up the travel budget for ESPN to MAYBE give them an extra 100k. The 12 team MAC from Buffalo to Chicago is perfect.
Incarnate Word or William and Mary
UIW and UTSA rivalry would be 🔥
@@IEmulateGames Incarnate Word Could Move To The FBS If They Moved Over To Alamo Stadium That Could Hold Up To 25,000 People All Wearing Red & Black.
Go Cardinals.
Plus If Portland State Would've Also Move To The FBS Then Why Can't They Go Back To Playing Their Home Games At Providence Park With A 25,218 Capacity Wearing Green & White.
Go Vikings.
And Jacksonville Should Reinstate Their Football Program Move To The FBS And Go Play Their Home Games At Everbank Stadium With 82,000 People All Wearing Forest Green White & Vegas Gold.
Go Dolphins.
+ Detroit Needs To Reinstate Their Football Program Move To Division 1 Become A FBS Team Go Play Their Home Games At Ford Field With 70,000 People All Wearing Blue Red & White.
Go Titans.
If SEMO jumps to the FBS so should SIU to keep their rivilary if you ask me
I saw semo and was like SIU better be on this list… I went there for years during their revival over the last 8ish years. I was there for the end of NDSU’s streak, SIU needs more love and they could succeed in the FBS. Been a top 15 school for like 7 years when injuries don’t hit their QB room.
You know those adults who just HAVE to win when they play kids, so there they are on Thanksgiving, out in the back yard, stiff-arming their nephews into the dirt? That's NDSU at the FCS level. Go play someone your own size.
Eastern Washington!
Go Montana State!
We're (MSU) not going anywhere without the Griz and vice-versa.
Absolutely RULE FCS or be an also-ran in FBS? The answer is clear. The Big Sky needs to stay the way it is. It's perfect.
Mentioning Montana State and not Montana is wild. Montana is not only one of the most storied FCS programs of all time, but are the big brothers to Montana State WITH A NEAR 2 TO 1 ALL-TIME RECORD.
Did you genuinely just Google FCS teams and make this list?
Yes, you are crazy!
I don't think we should have any more FBS call-ups. There's already enough teams at that level and we don't want to dwindle the FCS level as well. And, I'd rather go for national championships than a meaningless Bowl win.
Please. I know Sam Houston State won a National title a few years ago. And they are pretty much doing fine.
Bro called bowl wins meaningless💀
@@therealtaco7328 Kinda crazy. Bowl wins do propel a team
NDSU is literally the Saban led Alabama teams of the FCS, why leave?
You should have mentioned UT Chattanooga and Eastern Kentucky to the Sun Belt conference and No to Richmond in the Sun Belt conference they already have ODU and JMU
You should do the reverse of this video.
Chattanooga only lost to Georgia state by 3 and they beat Portland state
The only problem is that Chatt will not commit. They would be a perfect Sun Belt (Group Of 5 SEC lol) Conference. There would be built in rivals with GA State, App State, GA Southern, etc.... And of course MTSU in C-USA and the occasional beatdown by their big brothers the Vols in Knoxville. But they would have to commit with resources and stadium and facilities upgrades. But it seems that they are not willing to commit to make that jump. If they did, they could be really good. They are smack dab in the middle of fertile recruiting grounds. Chattanooga is a cool little city to recruit to. If they committed and did it right, UTC could be a Group of 5 powerhouse. And I am a die hard Vols fan. But I root for the smaller Tennessee schools. Memphis should be a Power 4 school definitely.
The MAC seems to want nothing to do with Youngstown St. I’m not sure why.
none of the fcs teams should move up. stop this college football canibalism
This is all about location and money it’s not just as easy as saying let’s move up.
I know that bro said he didn’t take financials into account but UNI is the most poverty school in the valley. There is zero chance they have the money for the jump
NDSU Bison are pronounced "Bi-zen".
I think weber state could be one
Both Dakota schools would have to move at the same time. Big 12 watch out
It would be ideal, but they are not tied together.
@@TheAveragejoe333rivalry is why
@@Thomas-wg9lh yeah I understand the rivalry. I’m an NDSU fan. That’s why I said it would be ideal. I still don’t see it as necessary. FBS is more important than the rivalry.
@ rivalry brings in more money. A lot more money than if 1 joined the FBS
They not jumping straight to p4 if they join FBs
How bout schools that should move down ?
There needs to be relegation like soccer in the Premier League over there in GBR.
Don’t do it just stay at the FCS level and dominate
I’d throw in Idaho Vandals in if the PAC take a MW team (along with some of the teams in the video)
They already tried FBS, and came back to the Big Sky FCS.
Why would ndsu go to a conference where they would get their asses kicked on a weekly basis, and with the exception to Sacramento most of those cities have very small airports if any at all so convincing the power 4 conferences members to go to those schools might be a problem unless the towns are willing to expand their existing infrastructure or add new airports and lodging
Lmao SEMO athletics are not on the same level as Mo state. Not with facilities or financials. They might be ranked higher but I would take Mo state in a head to head matchup all day.
Youngstown would be a much better addition to the MAC than UMess
Sucks that the MAC is losing N Illinois. UMass helps fill in that lost team.
Honorable mentions:
Montana
North Dakota
South Dakota
Tarleton State
Abilene Christian
Incarnate Word
Lamar
Stephen F. Austin
McNeese State
Southeastern Louisiana
Nicholls State
UC Davis
Idaho
Northern Arizona
Eastern Washington
Weber State
Northern Colorado
Tennessee Tech
Tennessee State
UT Martin
New Hampshire
Maine
Stony Brook
Elon
Towson
William & Mary
Monmouth
Albany
Hampton
Campbell
South Carolina State
NC Central
Illinois State
Northern Iowa
Murray State
Duquesne
Lehigh
Holy Cross
Georgetown
Drake
Butler
San Diego
Davidson
Dayton
Mercer
Western Carolina
Chattanooga
East Tennessee State
Samford
Wofford
Furman
Eastern Kentucky
Central Arkansas
Austin Peay
Chattanooga trust
The only problem is that Chatt will not commit. They would be a perfect Sun Belt (Group Of 5 SEC lol) Conference. There would be built in rivals with GA State, App State, GA Southern, etc.... And of course MTSU in C-USA and the occasional beatdown by their big brothers the Vols in Knoxville. But they would have to commit with resources and stadium and facilities upgrades. But it seems that they are not willing to commit to make that jump. If they did, they could be really good. They are smack dab in the middle of fertile recruiting grounds. Chattanooga is a cool little city to recruit to. If they committed and did it right, UTC could be a Group of 5 powerhouse. And I am a die hard Vols fan. But I root for the smaller Tennessee schools. Memphis should be a Power 4 school definitely.
Mercer? Not good enough to compete with power five buttttttttttt
Idaho, Montana State, Montana, North Dakota State and South Dakota State all to the Pac 12.
Cuse should move down.