I wouldn't ever duel with him he's not the best "duel" we are talking mainly conquest here buddy if you want to duel you can take that discussion else where. It's funny you say safest assassin but he's actually quite hard to use and requires alot more skill than susano, rat, huns, and a few other assasins. Linear tick grab with a 1 ability that can be interrupted by anything and a ult that charges in length. compare that to loki, awilix, and kali with almost a insta cast for their ults. Now come at me with that stupid lucky crit logic again and we can discuss your really flawed idea that merc can't do shit but still NRG uses him? please explain in detail lol... I hope dukesloth reads this shit for you can be salty you little punk bitch for thinking nems and thorns actually stop merc half the time and smart players know not to target fucking tanks with these items. Mercs job is to poke, gank, burst and run. Only box if its a secure kill and you won't be CC to hell.
M00NxM00N so obviously you never seen adapting play merc or weaken they use merc and counter play. you saying susano and rat take higher skill just go to show you dont watch spl because im sure its hard to use blue stone and go and burst a mage or a carry and run... sure takes alot of skill to land that right? the characters are as good as the player and FYI merc melts anyone doesnt matter if they have high def/health. this has been seen in spl multiple times season 2 and this new season in scrimage matches. Obviously others have better clear than merc cause he cant use blue stone thats why no one wants to pick and deal with falling behind or getting out jungled. without golden bow merc isnt no where near as good but i dont think hes a safe assassin he can easily fall behind fast just like fenrir or serquet if they fall behind how good are they? pro players do pick merc with a certain team comp because hes viable even in this meta because of the crit meta... but you saying hes a once shot pony isnt fair. thats like saying medusa is reliant solely on crits when in fact she always gets a bit of pen depending on the situation. you bias opinion of one god without actually watching him in the season is a shit move. he may have been trash season 3 but every god has his place.. ohh right remember the rat when he was straight trash than he got so buffed he was broken? righhht ohh wait susano too? nicee im not just defending merc because i like the fucking god shit i like the rat too because hes so easy to play and has great mobility but because every god has his tactics. Merc has his kit just like anyother god and even against better pick he does decently most of the time if not snowballs. respect the fucking game dont be a toxic like the rest of the community amd Reddit.
thank you so much for adding pictures of the items you talk about, Im still learning the meta and it really helps me understand exactly which items you're talking about now
Thank you DukeSloth for making these guides. I run into so many players who don't quite understand how itemization works in smite. I always recommend your UA-cam and Twitch stream for these players to learn.Could you do a video comparing defensive and offense builds for warriors and assassins?
Dukesloth I'm wondering if you'd be able to check out the viability of a non boots adc build. I've been playing with hou yi and Medusa with a build that looks like bluestone trans/asi hastened qin si(asi w/trans) wind demon Titans bane/deathbringer.
Hey Duke, does attack speed & pen rather than power do more for someone like Poseidon/Chronos/Freya if you want to shred towers? or do mages & guardians really have no potential for it?
It helps, to some extent. Especially Chronos actually has great tower push. Just build the right items. For example, Demonic Grip doesn't work on structures, so you still want Obsidian Shard.
When should a player build Malice? I am always told it isn't as effective as building Deathbringer with other crit items, so... When should it be used and who can make use of it?
On medusa do you have to run asi for the lifesteal or can you go without during a conquest if you do a trans/pen build? Was jw hope you have more luck with ctf! :)
DB as first item is just bad,Dev Gauntlet too late in the game to build it.The best option to hunters would be: Death Toll Dev Gauntlet Boots Ichaival Executioner Wind Demon and after selling death toll a titans bane or other crit item
Black Panther yes. For 2 reasons. 1. They word against each other. If you combine both, you'll essentially do less damage. Every hit of Executioner will lessen the pen of Titan's because Titan's works off of the total amount of protections of your opponent. 2. You have less room for other, more useful items if you build both.
Executioner, winddemon, deathbringer is good for auto attack hunters and will do more dmg against squishies and is more expensive VS Qinsais, titansbane, odysseusbow is good for ability based hunters and will do more dmg against tanks and is cheaper.
Can someone clear up why crit is considered separate from power? Most crit items have good damage on them as well as the crit damage when it procs. Why can't you just build crit and slap a few penetration items or titans bane on a build?
Triablos crit items are too expensive for it's power. consider a bloodforge is 2850 and a wind daemon is 2800. But u get 45 more power, that's a whole other item. if u can get more power online for cheaper early on, you'll win lane phase more effectively.
Traditional "power items" (ones that don't have crit) often have penetration, cdr, or just more available power for the price. A "power item" is not strictly an item with high power on it, it's moreso just "an item that supplements abilities and structure damage" instead of most directly increasing your basic attack damage. If it's useful against objectives, it's a power item. None of the crit items are optimal against ojectives.
FenP why can't you just build crit with penetration then? wouldn't that give you good damage as well as being able to take down objectives (albeit not as quickly)?
Triablos others are a lot cheaper though. depending on ur play style really. there's nothing wrong with crit/pen build. you are just going to suffer earlier and destroy everything at the end.
Why not all of them? Boots followed by a couple crit items and whatever 33% pen item plus Qun's Sais. That's 5, so maybe more pen like Jotunn's Wrath in there for extra cooldown too?
Love your videos dukesloth, you always teach me new things about the game. What do you think is the best way to start a Kali jungle? Should I go bumbas bluestone, bumbas death toll or bumbas and tier 2 boots? Thanks and keep up the great work!
necrofessor666 you want to get late quicker than the other hunter so you will have to farm more eficiently. (steal buffs e.g.) so i would have an agressive frontline guardian then go deaths toll warrior tabi. you can go devo gloves or go ichiavel then devo gloves or rush both attack speed crit items fatalis executioner. if yoh didnt go devos build deathbringer.
Is qins bad on art I tend to only build it if they have 2+ tanks I think it perfect on her caz 80+ attack speed increase steroid otherwise triple crit is the way to go for highest dps
Can somebody tell me why everyone says that artemis needs crit? Her passive gives crit per hit, so you need more hits so you can crit more, so naturally i think of building attack speed, like fatalis and executioner, but everyone says i should build deathbringer and rage.....
Crit needs pen and attack speed, has power already. Combine them! Warrior Tabi, Devos, Executioner, Qin's Sais, Poison Star, Executioner (start with ichaival, replace with executioner later, or build titansbane and use attack speed boots)
GrandChetaur I have the death toll in the beginning but once you get to late game you really don't need sustain. keep in mind I mostly build this on izanami. so with her 1 active 2 to 3 autos is enough to to kill a squishy
Ofc u need sustain in late game dude...being able to heal urself while hiting enemys or after a tf go and heal urself with camps and then comeback asap...Sustain is really important and in early Death toll isnt too much sustain
You guys need to try AMC with ninja tabi, poison star, WInd demon, titans bane, death bringer, malice. With hives and wind demon passive your attack speed is about 2.4 and you have 75% crit and 200 power. You are literally unstoppable no one will come near you. Just hold down attack
No sustain and too expensive u are going to lose the match before u get those items online and also u do nothing to towers almost and the tanks will laugh at u
Just because I like it doesn't mean I always build it. Hence situational. :) I knew I was gonna be up against an Ullr and Ullr HAS to go Trans if he wants MP5, so I knew there wouldn't be any risk in running it myself.
DukeSloth tell me,wtf am i supposed to do,when i play 5 consecutive conquest games after a loong break of playing the gamemode,and all i see are fucking thanathos on the enemy team every time with that fucking shield of regrown and katanas,HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPOSE TO FIGHT THAT FUCKING MERCURY WANNA BE'S?!?!?! AND THEY STILL HAVE TONS OF DAMAGE!!!!
Thanatos and Hun Batz are the top junglers currently so that would explain that. Thana is my favorite god and most played and by my experience I can tell you that if thana misses his 1 (scythe) he's essentially in trouble. CC is a killer for thana as wel since he really has no escape besides his ult.
Thana has high sustain and also rather high early game damage, you are in general not supposed to 1vs1 him early on. Later on he falls off hard, but at the start of the game his combination of high damage and sustain makes him very scary 1 on 1 (as most of the time he can disengage and get his health back up in under 10 seconds). Thana's weakness is his lack of escape, playing smart against him (getting him into 2 vs 1s, out of position in other words) is the way you deal with one. So you should try feign weakness while trying to get him near your alies, with a bit of luck he'll bite and then you'll chop his head off together... A bad Thana stops being an issue after a death or two (good once can come back :D) Simply not dying (and not letting your other teammates die, if possible) will do a lot more vs Thana then actively trying to kill him (1 on 1). He needs an advantage to be at a level playing field (either through his team or levels/kills). The key to being a better player in this game is that sometimes, you are not supposed to hard counter an enemy (ie go in 1 vs 2 or 1 vs 5)... you are just supposed to deny him an advantage until you gain one... This is an attrition game (2 people "always" beating 1), more then a pure power game... sometimes you are just meant to test your patience and wait for hours till somebody makes a mistake... This is why it's so hard sometimes and too easy the other time, when you are doing exactly the same thing in both games... Your alies are doing wrong stuff in one of them, and doing correct things in the other (an attrition game, the problem is in the team, not necessarily in you, though one should always strive to try to minimize relying on bad teammates... it's a skill that's gained through time... )... Anyway, don't fight 1 on 1... Try to shutdown ganks, keep your alies alive, countergank as he is attacking your ally... And in general, play a big safer till you get the hang of playing vs extremely agressive players.
yuricaptinprice Too much AS early with little power, I would personally build Warrior Tabi on Rama since he has a steroid. Ichaival is similar to Fatalis but the passive is really useful in the laning phase. You also want to be stacking either Devos/Trans or get Asi for LS Get RID of FB Hammer, it's a warrior-item. Qins is good. You need a Titan's Bane for pen to shred tanky targets. You're last item can be Fatalis, you don't need the WD unless you are getting a 2nd crit item. Crit is useless if you only have 1 item
It's not, you have too much AS which makes his 2 useless, you aren't gonna win 1v1s in lane or in team fights if you're autos aren't hitting hard. You need Pen/Power/AS, your build has no Pen, low power and a lot of AS. It's not good
There's nothing complicated about playing hunters. Hunters/ adc mages are the easiest role to play, even pro hunters just hold down basic. If your going to talk strategy and skill just talk warrior or support. Hunters/ADC always act like hot shit when their support does all the work but adc gets all the credit
Nah bro every class you is hard. I could reverse that: Theres nothing complicated about gardians or warriors. They are the easiest role to play. You build tanky and hold down the forward button. If your going to talk strategy and skill just talk about hunters. Have to constantly moniter everyones build and build power vs speed vs pen vs lifesteel vs utility vs mana, etc. build for early game vs late game benefit, etc. In reality every class can be defended likewise. It just proves that all are difficult for different reasons.
good God, that ullr tho......... Did he really think he was gonna box a full health media's two levels over him and he had like 1/3 of his mana left, fucking bronze v players 😂
Oh boy I sure do love when crit Merc one hits me!
Dank{ Slav} merc isnt a hunter tho
eQx Casqada That doesn't matter at all
lmao I love when they pop thorns I just wait a few seconds and finish the job shit only works on tanks anyone else will still get wrekt
I wouldn't ever duel with him he's not the best "duel" we are talking mainly conquest here buddy if you want to duel you can take that discussion else where. It's funny you say safest assassin but he's actually quite hard to use and requires alot more skill than susano, rat, huns, and a few other assasins. Linear tick grab with a 1 ability that can be interrupted by anything and a ult that charges in length. compare that to loki, awilix, and kali with almost a insta cast for their ults. Now come at me with that stupid lucky crit logic again and we can discuss your really flawed idea that merc can't do shit but still NRG uses him? please explain in detail lol... I hope dukesloth reads this shit for you can be salty you little punk bitch for thinking nems and thorns actually stop merc half the time and smart players know not to target fucking tanks with these items. Mercs job is to poke, gank, burst and run. Only box if its a secure kill and you won't be CC to hell.
M00NxM00N so obviously you never seen adapting play merc or weaken they use merc and counter play. you saying susano and rat take higher skill just go to show you dont watch spl because im sure its hard to use blue stone and go and burst a mage or a carry and run... sure takes alot of skill to land that right? the characters are as good as the player and FYI merc melts anyone doesnt matter if they have high def/health. this has been seen in spl multiple times season 2 and this new season in scrimage matches. Obviously others have better clear than merc cause he cant use blue stone thats why no one wants to pick and deal with falling behind or getting out jungled. without golden bow merc isnt no where near as good but i dont think hes a safe assassin he can easily fall behind fast just like fenrir or serquet if they fall behind how good are they? pro players do pick merc with a certain team comp because hes viable even in this meta because of the crit meta... but you saying hes a once shot pony isnt fair. thats like saying medusa is reliant solely on crits when in fact she always gets a bit of pen depending on the situation. you bias opinion of one god without actually watching him in the season is a shit move. he may have been trash season 3 but every god has his place.. ohh right remember the rat when he was straight trash than he got so buffed he was broken? righhht ohh wait susano too? nicee im not just defending merc because i like the fucking god shit i like the rat too because hes so easy to play and has great mobility but because every god has his tactics. Merc has his kit just like anyother god and even against better pick he does decently most of the time if not snowballs. respect the fucking game dont be a toxic like the rest of the community amd Reddit.
thank you so much for adding pictures of the items you talk about, Im still learning the meta and it really helps me understand exactly which items you're talking about now
Thank you DukeSloth for making these guides. I run into so many players who don't quite understand how itemization works in smite. I always recommend your UA-cam and Twitch stream for these players to learn.Could you do a video comparing defensive and offense builds for warriors and assassins?
Like this? ua-cam.com/video/lGkL7rnAV7k/v-deo.html
DukeSloth hey duke can you do a video on life steal and on assassins and who shoul
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You are a legend. You have literally 3 videos, but 300 subscribers. HOW?!
Duke can you please do a vid on crit on warriors
No crit warriors exist. The only one I like is crit vamana for a joke, when you ult its pretty fun but literally no warrior works with crit.
Right, it could be a video explaining why it's bad so people don't do it.
I'm not a Conquest player, but didn't some people build Rage on Osiris during S3?
Well now nobody builds rage on anything.
There's a simple answer: Don't.
Makes sense. I think this exact topic is when I finally realized how to build gods. It's definitely an interesting one.
What a phenomenal video Dukesloth, great insight as usual. Keep up the great work!
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What's you opinion on double stacking as a hunter? Say a transcendance start into a devo glove then building boots after?
That first exchange was just dirty. Nice work.
Dukesloth I'm wondering if you'd be able to check out the viability of a non boots adc build. I've been playing with hou yi and Medusa with a build that looks like bluestone trans/asi hastened qin si(asi w/trans) wind demon Titans bane/deathbringer.
Should you build poisoned star on melee boxers like kali and mercury?
Hey Duke, does attack speed & pen rather than power do more for someone like Poseidon/Chronos/Freya if you want to shred towers? or do mages & guardians really have no potential for it?
It helps, to some extent. Especially Chronos actually has great tower push. Just build the right items. For example, Demonic Grip doesn't work on structures, so you still want Obsidian Shard.
When should a player build Malice? I am always told it isn't as effective as building Deathbringer with other crit items, so... When should it be used and who can make use of it?
Malice isnt so good right now so the only character i would tell u to build it up is on serqet but the deathbringer is better
I read the comments before i read the description... I was confused...
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On medusa do you have to run asi for the lifesteal or can you go without during a conquest if you do a trans/pen build? Was jw hope you have more luck with ctf! :)
U need lifesteal and if u are going to build trans u should build asi
I was making a video like this! Darn you Duke D:
How much powrr does Trascendence give to Artemis, same with Devos Gaunlet? I really don't know which ons is better for power
NighthawkL06 Tranny is better for straight up power and mana. Devourer's is gives you a decent amount of power along with a lot of sustain.
NighthawkL06 95 power on trans and 55 on devs gloves
What is you typical medusa build? I usually go trans, warrior, hastened, Titans, jotunns, and bloodforge. Not specifically in that order.
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how is | Death's Toll/Deathbringer | Boots | Ichaival/Qin's Sais | Devourer's Guantlet | Executioner | Wind Demon | and how would you change it?
DB as first item is just bad,Dev Gauntlet too late in the game to build it.The best option to hunters would be:
Death Toll
Dev Gauntlet
Boots
Ichaival
Executioner
Wind Demon
and after selling death toll a titans bane or other crit item
GrandChetaur Death's Toll is sold for Deathbringer...
how do you get the players over your HUD with there ults n stuff is there add-ons like wow? haven't seen anything like that yet
So what is exactly is in those power/pen builds? Warrior Tabi, Titans, Trans, and what?
Ian Peters standard power/pen build from what I've seen is warrior tabi, trans, Asi,qins, titans, (situational item) for last
Is building titans bane with executioner bad?
Black Panther yes. For 2 reasons.
1. They word against each other. If you combine both, you'll essentially do less damage. Every hit of Executioner will lessen the pen of Titan's because Titan's works off of the total amount of protections of your opponent.
2. You have less room for other, more useful items if you build both.
Sergio Fernandez thanks. I always wondered that but yeah..
@Sergio Fernandez Very well explained
how do I know what items does damage to towers??
Medusa is one of my favorites and always has been. I like using crits, attk speed and mobility items. I like running circles around my enemies. :D
How is my ullr build in that regard
Trancendence, warrior tabi, Asi, Jotuns wrath,Quin's and Titans?
I really hope you can rate that for me.
Almost no attack speed but if u are focusing on ability dmg its okey the build
What is the music on the ending? It's cool.
Btw. I just found you Duke and i like to watch your guides. Good job, keep that going :)
Executioner, winddemon, deathbringer is good for auto attack hunters and will do more dmg against squishies and is more expensive VS Qinsais, titansbane, odysseusbow is good for ability based hunters and will do more dmg against tanks and is cheaper.
Can I ask, anyone do I need Qin Sais on my hunters? Like for an effective build If I have Exec. do I really still need Qins?
Best build for Anhur right now?
Not sure what i had in my build that did yellow tics of damage. Like the numbers were yellow
Can someone clear up why crit is considered separate from power? Most crit items have good damage on them as well as the crit damage when it procs. Why can't you just build crit and slap a few penetration items or titans bane on a build?
Triablos crit items are too expensive for it's power. consider a bloodforge is 2850 and a wind daemon is 2800. But u get 45 more power, that's a whole other item. if u can get more power online for cheaper early on, you'll win lane phase more effectively.
Traditional "power items" (ones that don't have crit) often have penetration, cdr, or just more available power for the price. A "power item" is not strictly an item with high power on it, it's moreso just "an item that supplements abilities and structure damage" instead of most directly increasing your basic attack damage.
If it's useful against objectives, it's a power item. None of the crit items are optimal against ojectives.
FenP why can't you just build crit with penetration then? wouldn't that give you good damage as well as being able to take down objectives (albeit not as quickly)?
worksonweekends but other than bloodforge most other pen items don't have exceptional power so idk
Triablos others are a lot cheaper though. depending on ur play style really. there's nothing wrong with crit/pen build. you are just going to suffer earlier and destroy everything at the end.
What about for ullr?
Why not all of them? Boots followed by a couple crit items and whatever 33% pen item plus Qun's Sais. That's 5, so maybe more pen like Jotunn's Wrath in there for extra cooldown too?
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any idea why suddenly ullr is being played by everyone? i've been playing the god for over a year and saw little to no play with him in season 3.
Amitys Wake Because ullr is life, and people are learning to live.
Ive begun to start second tier Odysseyeus bow with first tier boots on hunters its definitely something to consider
Love your videos dukesloth, you always teach me new things about the game. What do you think is the best way to start a Kali jungle? Should I go bumbas bluestone, bumbas death toll or bumbas and tier 2 boots? Thanks and keep up the great work!
george kalos bumba's and boots, check Weak3n channel on UA-cam, he is proplayer for Allegiance and he made video about jungle starts (y)
Von Percival he said bluestone...
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DukeSloth can you make a vid about Smite IG sens and dpi and What sens is good at the roles? (:
THATS how it should be in a MOBA! Not "the one build" for "that one God"!
what do i build on arte
necrofessor666 you want to get late quicker than the other hunter so you will have to farm more eficiently. (steal buffs e.g.) so i would have an agressive frontline guardian then go deaths toll warrior tabi. you can go devo gloves or go ichiavel then devo gloves or rush both attack speed crit items fatalis executioner. if yoh didnt go devos build deathbringer.
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is any of this still accurate because ik they took out Hastened Fatalis...
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When you say, "... you'll even see players picking up Devourer's Gauntlet, which kinda speaks for itself...," what do you mean?
Btw, I think Qin's Sais is Chinese which means it's pronounced "Chin's." Correct me if I'm wrong.
Is qins bad on art I tend to only build it if they have 2+ tanks I think it perfect on her caz 80+ attack speed increase steroid otherwise triple crit is the way to go for highest dps
it depends on the match, matchupp and what else you get
What about 95% crit with titans bane? :o
Can somebody tell me why everyone says that artemis needs crit? Her passive gives crit per hit, so you need more hits so you can crit more, so naturally i think of building attack speed, like fatalis and executioner, but everyone says i should build deathbringer and rage.....
ShiningChris so you'll have a higher chance for crits
Crit needs pen and attack speed, has power already. Combine them! Warrior Tabi, Devos, Executioner, Qin's Sais, Poison Star, Executioner (start with ichaival, replace with executioner later, or build titansbane and use attack speed boots)
why would u start with ichaival in conq?
I prefer triple crit. I usually go death toll straight into poison star into ninja Tabi followed by wind demon, titans bane and death bringer
No sustain?
GrandChetaur I have the death toll in the beginning but once you get to late game you really don't need sustain. keep in mind I mostly build this on izanami. so with her 1 active 2 to 3 autos is enough to to kill a squishy
Ofc u need sustain in late game dude...being able to heal urself while hiting enemys or after a tf go and heal urself with camps and then comeback asap...Sustain is really important and in early Death toll isnt too much sustain
I miss Medusa during Season 1 on Xbox1. Her Ultimate stoned people regardless If they were facing her. Good times.
S3 and s4 ps4 is just like that
that invisible thoth ult in 1:18 :D
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Smite....balanced?? BALANCED NOW?? Woahhhhh
This is probably the most balanced patch there has been in Smite in terms of items.
You guys need to try AMC with ninja tabi, poison star, WInd demon, titans bane, death bringer, malice. With hives and wind demon passive your attack speed is about 2.4 and you have 75% crit and 200 power. You are literally unstoppable no one will come near you. Just hold down attack
No sustain and too expensive u are going to lose the match before u get those items online and also u do nothing to towers almost and the tanks will laugh at u
I build them Qin's and Crit with TB. My adc game SKYROCKETED after I quit building Trans early, or at all.
Both ^
Am I the only one who can't believe Ra missed the snipe at 2:12?
Great discussion
I see other hunters doing pen and they do it so well, but whenever I do it I do like negative dmg
I have a problem... And the only thing I want for my characters is POWER. Like Zeus, double stack, obisdian's and tahuti. LOL
Aw I wanted to see you take down the turret so bad
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Need to talk about junglers more
I find it funny how he like devours on medusa but he put transcendence on the footage lol
Just because I like it doesn't mean I always build it. Hence situational. :) I knew I was gonna be up against an Ullr and Ullr HAS to go Trans if he wants MP5, so I knew there wouldn't be any risk in running it myself.
You should do a video on "How much is enough penetration?"
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DukeSloth tell me,wtf am i supposed to do,when i play 5 consecutive conquest games after a loong break of playing the gamemode,and all i see are fucking thanathos on the enemy team every time with that fucking shield of regrown and katanas,HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPOSE TO FIGHT THAT FUCKING MERCURY WANNA BE'S?!?!?! AND THEY STILL HAVE TONS OF DAMAGE!!!!
Thanatos and Hun Batz are the top junglers currently so that would explain that. Thana is my favorite god and most played and by my experience I can tell you that if thana misses his 1 (scythe) he's essentially in trouble. CC is a killer for thana as wel since he really has no escape besides his ult.
Thana has high sustain and also rather high early game damage, you are in general not supposed to 1vs1 him early on.
Later on he falls off hard, but at the start of the game his combination of high damage and sustain makes him very scary 1 on 1 (as most of the time he can disengage and get his health back up in under 10 seconds).
Thana's weakness is his lack of escape, playing smart against him (getting him into 2 vs 1s, out of position in other words) is the way you deal with one.
So you should try feign weakness while trying to get him near your alies, with a bit of luck he'll bite and then you'll chop his head off together...
A bad Thana stops being an issue after a death or two (good once can come back :D)
Simply not dying (and not letting your other teammates die, if possible) will do a lot more vs Thana then actively trying to kill him (1 on 1). He needs an advantage to be at a level playing field (either through his team or levels/kills).
The key to being a better player in this game is that sometimes, you are not supposed to hard counter an enemy (ie go in 1 vs 2 or 1 vs 5)... you are just supposed to deny him an advantage until you gain one... This is an attrition game (2 people "always" beating 1), more then a pure power game... sometimes you are just meant to test your patience and wait for hours till somebody makes a mistake...
This is why it's so hard sometimes and too easy the other time, when you are doing exactly the same thing in both games... Your alies are doing wrong stuff in one of them, and doing correct things in the other (an attrition game, the problem is in the team, not necessarily in you, though one should always strive to try to minimize relying on bad teammates... it's a skill that's gained through time... )...
Anyway, don't fight 1 on 1... Try to shutdown ganks, keep your alies alive, countergank as he is attacking your ally... And in general, play a big safer till you get the hang of playing vs extremely agressive players.
sweet advice man
i with you already, and won
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The poor ullr in this vid...
Charlie Averett lol.
i build rama
ninja tabi
hastend fatalis
odysseus bow
frostbound hammer
Quin sais
wind demon
yuricaptinprice Too much AS early with little power, I would personally build Warrior Tabi on Rama since he has a steroid.
Ichaival is similar to Fatalis but the passive is really useful in the laning phase. You also want to be stacking either Devos/Trans or get Asi for LS
Get RID of FB Hammer, it's a warrior-item. Qins is good. You need a Titan's Bane for pen to shred tanky targets.
You're last item can be Fatalis, you don't need the WD unless you are getting a 2nd crit item. Crit is useless if you only have 1 item
Ero RseI Its a good build with rama, i got him diamond with this build.
It's not, you have too much AS which makes his 2 useless, you aren't gonna win 1v1s in lane or in team fights if you're autos aren't hitting hard. You need Pen/Power/AS, your build has no Pen, low power and a lot of AS. It's not good
Do you have rama diamond or have hime top 1%
No, that doesn't mean anything mate, the build you use isn't good compared to Warrior/Ichavial/Devos/Qins/Fatalis/Titans, which has power, pen and AS
ok so he went almost 3 full levels without leveling his abilities lol
I feel like on Ullr he is better with power/pen/sais.
Yes, it almost always works better for Ullr.
I mentioned it because I keep seeing Ullrs that build crit.
Bloodforge, Fatalis, Frostbound best build anyways.
Kappa
My mans said executioner isn't good...
Stix can only get away with being a Frontline because his warrior (me) actually makes his dumb plays work
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i dont buy crit because the i can have 100% crit and still land no crit when I need it most...
Who else forgot what the video was about?
There's nothing complicated about playing hunters.
Hunters/ adc mages are the easiest role to play, even pro hunters just hold down basic.
If your going to talk strategy and skill just talk warrior or support.
Hunters/ADC always act like hot shit when their support does all the work but adc gets all the credit
Nah bro every class you is hard.
I could reverse that:
Theres nothing complicated about gardians or warriors.
They are the easiest role to play. You build tanky and hold down the forward button.
If your going to talk strategy and skill just talk about hunters. Have to constantly moniter everyones build and build power vs speed vs pen vs lifesteel vs utility vs mana, etc. build for early game vs late game benefit, etc.
In reality every class can be defended likewise. It just proves that all are difficult for different reasons.
I'm not a crit kinda person
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Hey Duke can you put a little heart on this comment
Dusan Veljkovic no
good God, that ullr tho......... Did he really think he was gonna box a full health media's two levels over him and he had like 1/3 of his mana left, fucking bronze v players 😂
Probably was playing in the future when he got his t5 skin and one shot medusa
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hey man