LMAO I can just imagine 15th century Elizabeth of York, extremelly religous, thinking that. Oh wait, I cannot. Tired of this 21st century feminism injected into every female historical figure. women in the middle ages did NOT have this mindset.
True, but the book this is based upon is probably like that. Expecting absolute historical accuracy from current period dramas is a futile endeavour, really.
Mrava Wishes and what about Wolf Hall? it looks quite authentically and true. i liked it. White queen looks a bit cheap. but actors were good. and beautiful, especially the main actress, of course. this White princess actress is not attractive at all, very ordinary, and annoying for some reason. i've been waiting for this sequel for years and now i am so so dissapointed and even dont want to see it.
Anonymous Owl same here done with killing eve now m watching thirteen, she’s like an addiction she’s like my scarlet Johansson. A great actress she indeed is.
I am beyond excited for this. Elizabeth of York is one of the most fascinating and little-known queens in history. I sincerely hope they don't go crazy with her being rebellious as this trailer implies; she was a kind, bright, beautiful, and beloved queen who played a vital role in the founding of the Tudor dynasty just as she was. This show shouldn't embellish her unnecessarily or act like her piety and graciousness were any less valuable because she wasn't "fiery" enough. Not all female power has to be represented with brashness and overt sexuality, especially if that wasn't who the woman truly was.
Don't be excited for this. The Elizabeth in the books is NOTHING like the little about Elizabeth we know from history, who as you say, was pious, and gentle and kind. The loving relationship between her and Henry is non-existent in Philippa Gregory's novel and I doubt that will change in the show. (Never mind the fact that in her book, Henry rapes her to conceive Arthur- - cause you know, women always fall in love and are dedicated to the men that rape them). Really, honestly, don't bother watching this. It isn't worth your time.
I did read the book this show was based on, and was disappointed with much of it. However, I'm hoping the show didn't take everything from the novel and place it onscreen. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. Even if it is really inaccurate (which will be disappointing) at least we know it's fictionalized. I simply wish everyone realized that just because it's onscreen doesn't mean that's how it truly went down, historically.
Tell me about it. I once had a report about Henry VIII. I´ve read three books - not fiction, besides seeing countless of movies and shows. And one girl kept interfering with absolute stupidities. And when I told her she is wrong, her friend told me to trust her, that she´d seen the Tudors, so she knows it well. And this was not American school system.
HenryBethSecrets AtLea I agree bland stuff never works, especially nowadays, but it doesn't mean they should turn a real life historical character upside down and change too much stuff around for shock value. That's not the only way to make things entertaining and it's English court we're talking about: I'm sure dull moments were rare enough and an interesting show can be created with just a little added drama.
Wish they had kept Rebecca Feurgeson at least as the White Queen. I guess she didn't want to do it but it would have been a nice touch. Will we see any cameos from the cast of the White Queen in this sequel?
Most of the cast didn't want to reprise their roles, and Rebecca honestly is too high profile now given her success in Hollywood. Cecily Neville, Elizabeth's grandmother is the only one who's back. I know Freya Mavor who played Elizabeth before is committed to an acting career in France, also.
atasteoftempestonyourlips • the Tudors parallel the Targareans(unsure of spelling lol) because it is someone who has never seen the land they come to rule and have grown up on foreign shores
So they finally decided to make this. Wow took them long enough, i have been waiting forever. Sad though i liked the old actors from the white queen more.
The diversion from the books is quite evident. From the trailer its quite clear that Lizzie is not the wife who does nothing but bear children and support her husband. This is the secretive and ambitious version of Elizabeth and I love it. It may not have been so in reality, but hey she didn't sleep with her uncle in reality either. And compared to that sick made up portrayal of history by Phillippa Gregory she has no right to coplain that Starz changed the plot of her books cause she changed history in her books.
kimma508 Agreed, I really have nothing against incest after watching the Borgias, BUT Elizabeth and Henry were the perfect love story, my favorite historical couple, and Philippa Gregory ruined them...
Olha Sum I agree with you. Gregory tried to ruin them but I won't give her the satisfaction by watching or reading anything she writes. They are one of my favorite couples too.
Elizabeth of York would have been angered by such an accusation. Gregory's portrayal of Elizabeth of York is truly evil and wrong. Gregory has some karma coming her way for such vicious and hateful lies.
Is that Catlyn Stark I see as Margaret Beaufort? I loathe the way Gregory portrays Henry and Elizabeth, but I'll confess Catlyn's actress in this show has me *mildly* curious.
Becky Weiss I agree with you. I wasn't happy with the way Henry and Elizabeth were portrayed in the White Princess. If you read the book by Alison Weir about Elizabeth of York you will get a more genuine idea of who she was and her relationship with Henry.
***** I did actually! My only issue with the book is that Weir ascribes to the idea that Elizabeth was willing to marry her uncle Richard. Why on earth would she want to marry a man that declared her and her sisters bastards, as well as possibly have a hand in directing the death of her brothers? It makes her declaration of revenge in this trailer all the more puzzling. She should have been steering towards revenge against her uncle, who was the primary cause of her misery once her father died. Given Richard is dead now, there's little reason for Elizabeth to want a calculated plot for revenge. Of course, who am I kidding when I question everyone's motivations? The fact that this is based off of Philippa Gregory's books says everything. She's a hack imo, and Gregory's claim that she knows history and weaves it into her books is actually offensive to me. Other than the whole thing with Richard, the book by Weir was very interesting. She does well with what little first hand information we have of Elizabeth. I'm incredibly dismayed that Henry VII in particular is portrayed as a sexist ass in this show and a rapist in Gregory's books. Henry's curtailing of Elizabeth's role in politics had *nothing* to do with her gender and *everything* to do with her having a stronger claim to the throne than he did. It unfortunately, resorted into Henry pushing Elizabeth towards a role of a very traditional Renaissance era Queen. But from Weir's book, as well as a few other reliable sources I've read, I've always drawn the conclusion that Henry and Elizabeth had always gotten along reasonably well from the onset. They were at the very least, friendly acquaintances towards each other trying to make best of a sticky situation and possibly realized they needed to work together. And then, as the years went by and they had their children, an amicable partnership under stressful circumstances turned to genuine love. To turn it the other way around, Henry would *not* want to mistreat Elizabeth - what with her stronger claim to the throne and her already solid popularity with the people of England.
You know, I´ve been looking for a good depiction of this marriage and it seems Elizabeth loving Richard is very popular way to look at it. I don´t get it either. They often try to have someone else kill the two princes, so it wouldn´t be on Richard, but what the rest? Beside making her bastard and all the other things to get to throne, he killed her older brother Richard and uncle Anthony. Her Woodville family did way better after Henry took the throne, so the revenge is not a plot very well done.
Her descendents are some of the best women in history Her grandchildren Mary queen of scots Elizabeth the 1 And Also Anne of great Britain Queen Victoria
I have never been more excited for something in my life. I adore Elizabeth of York and the story between herself and Henry. It will be interesting, however, to see how much they take from the book and perhaps how much they take from actual history itself. For, while I did enjoy the book, I wasn't too pleased with how Gregory potrayed a few things. Then again, that seems to always be the case in historical remakes of the sorts.
Wished you would give us a second season of this, the cast, character development, the story is so good, the finale was left open for another season episodes. Yes, there's the Spanish queen but its not this series though.
OMG SO EXCITED!!!!!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍 This is one of my most favorite books and Im beyond psyched for this. I do however wish they had kept the original actors from The White Queen.
I studied this period of history at university, I think most scholars still agree that Richard III had the princes in the tower murdered, not his mother. Also, what a ridiculous scene when that tiny woman smothers jasper Tudor. Richard III was Lizzie's uncle and was married, so it's unlikely they were ever lovers. The real story is dramatic enough on its own and does not need any embellishment.
"All I ever wanted was to marry a man for love." What was the writer thinking? Elizabeth of York might have though about that but there's no way she wanted to pursue it for she's a princess. Therefore, she'd be married to a man of royal/noble blood for political alliance. Even if she and her siblings were declared as bastards by their uncle, she was still promised to have a good marriage. That was one of the conditions her mother asked from her uncle to publicly swear before she and her daughters would leave sanctuary. Duh. This is what happens when 21st century people make period dramas. They tend to inject modern standards and norms. Although not all. There are quite a few good period dramas out there. The script, story, dialogue and plot in this show are just terrible.
Dane Mitch her parents married for love it makes sense that she would want to marry for love. Want and need are two different things. She could have wanted to marry for love but understand that she had to marry for political gain. Maybe if you actually had a brain you could understand this. But no you just have to go straight to hating. I apologize if I have read you wrong.
Believe it or not people could marry for love in any century as long as their partners belong to the same class as them and the circumstances are in their favour.
So worth the sleepness night... watch the whole series in one sitting... with bathroom breaks ofcourse lol... amazing as always jodie!!! Awesome story aswell!
I loved this series, I loved it, I would say that one of the best series that not only tells part of the story but also the romance, the passion and vanity for osoluct power.😍🤗😊
any recommendation of where i can watch magnificent century season 2,3,4,. and any other series that are familiar to the magnificent shows. i fell in love with the show but unfortunately i cant finish it and i need to sat a new serie.
You can watch The White Queen here on youtube as someone posted the series. Watch in two shows at a time . . . that way you can catch everything w/o being distracted or bored. By the second day you will be good to go and the final three episodes are terrific so watch them all at once on the last viewing. Remember that its the historical fiction that Game of Thrones' historical fantasy is based on so try to find the characters. The young King Robert Baratheon of GoT is her father Edward IV of House York for starters
It's already much better than the book because if I remember correctly ***spoiler alert*** Elizabeth Woodville continued moving strings around the kingdom but refused to tell Lizzie anything about it (since her youngest boy actually didn't die, according to the novel obviously, not history. Elizabeth kept trying to put him on the throne). The 'White Princess' WAS humble and penitent, always crying because she didn't want to marry him at first and when she did love Henry, he started having mistresses. Well done Starz djffnfngkg well well done ❤❤❤
He actually was described as a rare bird because he didn't have mistresses nor were talks of it/rumours... he cared for Elizabeth very deeply and they wanted him to marry again but he refused.
What happened with Prince Richard in the White Princess book? I know that historically he was taken along with his brother from the tower but since in "The White Queen" book and series he actually lives I was wondering how Gregory handled it in her next book.. I haven't read "The White Queen", I've only watched the series- to be honest after the awful Anne Boleyn portrayal and historical inacuraccy in "The Other Boleyn Girl" I'm not interested in going anywhere near Gregory's books ever again- so if anyone has read it I'd like to know...
Mysterious Stranger oh lord do u think they'll end up putting that he had mistresses in the show? that would really disappoint me, they are happy right now
I love how more and more historical fiction series are being made these days! In the future I'd love to see a show about Lady Jane Grey picked up (also known as the "Nine Days Queen"). She is a figure that always interested me.. "Innocent Traitor" by Alison Weir would be a great choice if they base it on a book like they did with Gregory's "White Queen" and "White Princess".
Aleksandra Zygmanowska I really hope they won't base it on a Philippa Gregory book. We have had enough character assassinations on screen because of her.
The White Queen was my favourite series among all series!!! And since it usually takes a year for a series to come up with a sequel, I assumed that there won't be a White Princess since years have already passed by now. But when I heard about this I'm soooOOoOoOooOOoOoo unbearably excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Elizabeth of York and Henry Tudor are my favourite monarchs in the Wars of the Roses, because their strategy to win is not war, but love! While the Plantagenet kings waged war and fought in battles to gain the throne and secure it, the Tudors used marriage to gain the throne and making love in bed to secure it through heirs. It's very romantic!!! So I hope there would be lots and lots of love scenes! ♥
Chivalry Wright Are you sure you know what you write ? Romantic? The Tudor kings and queens were romantic? No. They were cunning,vengeful,pragmatic and they killed a lot of people to secure their power. And the Renaissance and the Middle Ages are quite different from each other.
Love conquers all! The white princess.. I am so hooked up with this miniseries. I love their tandem and their chemistry is overpowering that makes it so real. I am looking forward to seeing jodie(lizzie) and jacob(henry) in another movies together! 💗💗💗
I am a huge fan of Philippa Gregory and loved the TV adaptation of "The White Queen". Excited for the series premiere and cannot wait to read the novels of "The Cousins War" series. Wish Rebecca Ferguson and Amanda Hale reprised their roles as Elizabeth and Margaret, however the cast is awesome nonetheless.
Weirdly enough, this is an instance where I wouldn't particularly mind them taking liberties with history. The position of Elizabeth is fascinating because, even by the customs of the time, _her_ claim to the throne was stronger than Henry VII's (who was barely even a Lancastrian). Plus, having been surrounded by power and war her entire life, there is room for some seriously interesting characterisation here. However, the real Elizabeth seems to have been a little boring. A spectator and womb-with-legs in the dynastic struggles of the day. This isn't a criticism against stories focussing on women from medieval English history. God no. Matilda, Eleanor of Aquitaine, Margaret of Anjou, Katherine Synford, Margaret Beaufort are just interesting women who pop into my head. But I get the desire to spruce Elizabeth of York up a bit.
Kinda, but adopting the 'we don't know for sure' angle seriously constrains how much you can do. It is absolutely no exaggeration to say Elizabeth of York could have been at the head of a civil war/uprising against Richard VII, if history had played out differently. She had the claim for it. If say, she'd escaped to the continent and married a European monarch, she could have started a role-reversed Hundred Years War. Obviously, that did not happen. Also, Henry VII's reign was not actually that exciting (at least, compared to that of his son...). I'm not saying the historical woman was an idiot...just that history did not put her in a position to make that big of a splash.
But why make a story about her though? And to be honest, she wasn't a "womb-with-legs"... Okay, maybe in terms of her political actions, maaaybe. But she had a good relationship with her husband (loving even!), engaged in charity and had interesting hobbies. In a truthful retelling of this story, she would be a very likeable side character. And you know who would be the main character? Henry's mom, a strong, politically influential woman. Pious, sure, but well-educated as well, survivor of the War Of Roses and first lady of the country. Seriously, the only reason "Lizzie" gets to be the main character seems to be the fact that she is a) young, hot and has a man fucking her and b) Philipa Gregory, author of the original books, hates both Tudors and historical accuracy.
It is still possible Richard did not have murdered his nephews and didn't let them die in prison, instead just proclaiming them dead and crowning himself king, with boys surviving untill Henry's coronation (at which point it would seem rather strange that Henry had them murdered while being so happily married to their sister, but not entirely impossible considering Henry was known to do anything to hold on to power and throne). However, it is just a theory and their mother couldn't possibly know it, otherwise it would be stupid to marry her own daughter to new king so quickly, the less just giving her up for him to "test her fertility" (like WTF, even if she was normally fertile, it might take her several years untill she gets pregnant, and besides, Henry, unscrupulous as he was, would never treat a princess of royal house far more noble than himself this way, esp. if he considered her his possible bride!).
idk I thought the cast (the necessary characters for this sequel) would remain the same, at least Freya as Elizabeth. But Jodie is great as well and I love the idea of Michelle as Margaret. Can't wait until April 16th!! ❤❤❤
WOW!! I'm so excited for this series! I really loved The White Queen, this looks like it's going to be amazing as well.. I've got my calendar marked1 :o))
At 1:02 I thought it was an editing mistake and a few seconds of some show set in the 2010's were accidentally thrown in... they weren't even trying to be historically accurate in terms of costumes, hairstyles and especially manners and speach, which is quite sad.
Dear Starz Team, I am from gearmany and I wait very hard for this, can you please tell me when it will come to gearmany in free TV or on DVD? ☺ 💕 Ps: What I had Seen so far, was great.
Quisiera que me aclarasen ¿Esta serie esta adaptada de la novela escrita por Philippa Gregory? Si es así me hubiese gustado que el elenco fuera conformado por los actores de la serie "La Reina Balnca" pero eso no quitará que ya se me cuecen las habas por verla. 🙌
I don't get why everyone has to be so antagonistic with each other in these series. By all accounts Henry VII and Elizabeth of York had a deep affection for each other and were rarely without the other so wouldn't have been better to show them working as a unit instead constantly against each other?
Dear Starz Team I am from gearmany and I am from gearmany and I am really want to know when this amazing looking Show will come to gearmany on DVD or on free TV? 💗
This trailer looked more badass then the actual tv series... started of great then was rushed and the trailer eludes to more then what actually happened
There's simply not enough Henry & Lizzie development in episode 5! Given only 8 episodes, I can only imagine why they feel the need to jump a few years head but it is a shame we didn't see more of Henry & Lizzie falling for another even out of respect/duty after their build up in episode 1-4 which I really appreciated and enjoyed watching. (sigh) How I wished WHITE PRINCESS got two seasons so it wouldn't feel so rushed. The show is called WHITE PRINCESS but it feels less and less about Lizzie which is once again, truly a shame. :( And rather than her talking about her role as the Tudor queen (in episode 5) or how things changed between her and Henry with her cousin, I wished we actually saw it. The actress who plays Lizzie though, Jodie, is doing her role justice with the little she been given lately. Still enjoying the show nonetheless and excited for episode 6 already!
Miss Fisher and Lady Stark!! Yep I need to watch this. tbh this is more of the Lady Margaret image I had when I read 'the red queen', and I love Essie anyway. Perhaps I'm the only one who's happy about them rather than the original actors haha.
I feel like starz is taking this series more seriously than the white queen, which is a good thing.Ive been waiting forever for it ❤. anybody knows the trailer song btw?
There is *no* historical evidence to pinpoint that Elizabeth was in love with Henry. Being financially dependent on him isn't the same thing. I'd imagine there'd be a lot of resentment for a long time, given he basically helped Richard finish destroying her family. If they became friends as time passed and they got to know each other, I'd expect it. But more than that? Nah. And this is a work of fiction. If you want accuracy, honestly? Pick up a non-fiction book. The series has to appeal to a wider audience who won't know the specifics to make money. So, accuracy goes clean out the window. And besides: it's drawn/based off of what's in actuality a historical romance novel.
I agree. Whatever fondness or affection may have developed between them though nearly two decades of marriage , it can't be denied that he limited her role as consort to a mere figurehead/baby Factory and Kept her financially dependent on him. He allowed his mother to virtually usurp her rightful consort powers, to the point contemporaries noticed.
I believe that the moment she had some modicum of financial independence, she packed up and moved to Eltham Palace. If that's true, then that's quite the statement about her feelings toward her marriage. She'd been educated more than well-enough to rule effectively alongside a King of France, so the diminished role she had with Henry could and would have likely been seen as highly insulting. They muzzled her, because it was a fact that the people preferred her side of the family. I also don't think she could just set aside either his reluctance to marry her in the first place or crown her. They were together for seventeen years, but I don't see any grounds for a grand romance like her parents' there between her and Henry.
It's definitely more nuanced. In ways we'll never really know because chroniclers were paid to flatter whoever was paying them, instead of recounting the truth. John Rous started one account during Richard III's reign but completed it during Henry's, and he ended up demonizing Richard in the end. Down to accusations of him having talons.
blissinchains exactly and in the last year of her life, her financial records have her going on a progress to Wales for months without Henry. Her choosing to be away from him for several months despite her advancing final pregnancy, is rather telling. I see a lot of people go on about the "love story" between Henry and EoY and while there are a few pieces of evidence that hint at an affection had grown between them through the years, it is not enough to say it was a love story and in fact, there is more evidence against it. And how happy can a marriage be where the husband doesn't trust the wife, nor her family? Where he punishes several family members of wife throughout the years and keeps wife perpetually short of cash and his mother the one yielding the power that rightfully belongs to the wife?
I also agree that the initial refusal to wed and then crown her (she wasn't even crowned until Prince Arthur was over a year) wouldn't be something she could just get over. She was the daughter of a king, it must have been insulting to her.
I’m a simple woman. I saw villanelle and I clicked
sooooo true lmfao
Kali Johnston same
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LOL LOL
Same !
"A humble and penitent, be damned. Hidden and patient. That will be my motto. "
LMAO I can just imagine 15th century Elizabeth of York, extremelly religous, thinking that. Oh wait, I cannot.
Tired of this 21st century feminism injected into every female historical figure. women in the middle ages did NOT have this mindset.
True, but the book this is based upon is probably like that. Expecting absolute historical accuracy from current period dramas is a futile endeavour, really.
Mrava Wishes did you seriously say this is better than the tudors?
Mrava Wishes and what about Wolf Hall? it looks quite authentically and true. i liked it. White queen looks a bit cheap. but actors were good. and beautiful, especially the main actress, of course. this White princess actress is not attractive at all, very ordinary, and annoying for some reason. i've been waiting for this sequel for years and now i am so so dissapointed and even dont want to see it.
QueenOfObscurePairings Or my own family motto ‘Mulieres Nostrae Fortunae’ Wise women are our fortune
Came here for Jodie Comer as she played brilliantly on Killing Eve! Stalking her movies and tv series now...
IKR watch the white queen too it’s amazing too
My mad fat diary is one of the few teen dramas that are top notch! Thats how I began to lover her acting. Have fun!
Anonymous Owl same here done with killing eve now m watching thirteen, she’s like an addiction she’s like my scarlet Johansson. A great actress she indeed is.
me too
I would be lying if I said I didn't do the same ahaha
I am beyond excited for this. Elizabeth of York is one of the most fascinating and little-known queens in history. I sincerely hope they don't go crazy with her being rebellious as this trailer implies; she was a kind, bright, beautiful, and beloved queen who played a vital role in the founding of the Tudor dynasty just as she was. This show shouldn't embellish her unnecessarily or act like her piety and graciousness were any less valuable because she wasn't "fiery" enough. Not all female power has to be represented with brashness and overt sexuality, especially if that wasn't who the woman truly was.
Don't be excited for this.
The Elizabeth in the books is NOTHING like the little about Elizabeth we know from history, who as you say, was pious, and gentle and kind. The loving relationship between her and Henry is non-existent in Philippa Gregory's novel and I doubt that will change in the show. (Never mind the fact that in her book, Henry rapes her to conceive Arthur- - cause you know, women always fall in love and are dedicated to the men that rape them).
Really, honestly, don't bother watching this. It isn't worth your time.
I did read the book this show was based on, and was disappointed with much of it. However, I'm hoping the show didn't take everything from the novel and place it onscreen. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. Even if it is really inaccurate (which will be disappointing) at least we know it's fictionalized. I simply wish everyone realized that just because it's onscreen doesn't mean that's how it truly went down, historically.
Tell me about it. I once had a report about Henry VIII. I´ve read three books - not fiction, besides seeing countless of movies and shows. And one girl kept interfering with absolute stupidities. And when I told her she is wrong, her friend told me to trust her, that she´d seen the Tudors, so she knows it well.
And this was not American school system.
HenryBethSecrets AtLea I agree bland stuff never works, especially nowadays, but it doesn't mean they should turn a real life historical character upside down and change too much stuff around for shock value. That's not the only way to make things entertaining and it's English court we're talking about: I'm sure dull moments were rare enough and an interesting show can be created with just a little added drama.
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Catelyn is alive!
your icon srsly,
Queen of Thorns
I love her too
IS that Catelyn, though? Are you sure that is not yourself when you were younger, Ollena?
Catlyn Stark dies in a kingdom and rises in other lmao, I'm watching this because I miss her
Margaret : "God put my henry on the throne"
Elizabeth Woodville : "Then god put my daughter on the throne beside him"
YASSS😍
Wish they had kept Rebecca Feurgeson at least as the White Queen. I guess she didn't want to do it but it would have been a nice touch. Will we see any cameos from the cast of the White Queen in this sequel?
tr1nidad1 Edward 's mother is played by the same actress who portrayed her in the White Queen ... but she is the only one :(
Most of the cast didn't want to reprise their roles, and Rebecca honestly is too high profile now given her success in Hollywood. Cecily Neville, Elizabeth's grandmother is the only one who's back. I know Freya Mavor who played Elizabeth before is committed to an acting career in France, also.
Shes older tho so that may be the reason.
Jason Roger not necessarily a reason
idk you dont have to be mean to me :(
If Stark parallels York and Lannister parallels Lancaster.. Does that mean Catelyn Stark has become a Lannister?
Yes that's what I was thinking
That is what the series was based off actually
atasteoftempestonyourlips • the Tudors parallel the Targareans(unsure of spelling lol) because it is someone who has never seen the land they come to rule and have grown up on foreign shores
@@cdruskoff6617 never seen the land? Henry VII didn't go into exile until age 14 but ok
@@elisa1979 Danaerys was based a little bit on Henry VII
King Henry: "Changing sides to who?" and then Elizabeth's face is the best. LOVE
Jodie Comer!! Love her from "Killing Eve." If you haven't seen it yet, check it out! She plays a psychopathic assassin and is PHENOMENAL
So they finally decided to make this. Wow took them long enough, i have been waiting forever. Sad though i liked the old actors from the white queen more.
The diversion from the books is quite evident. From the trailer its quite clear that Lizzie is not the wife who does nothing but bear children and support her husband. This is the secretive and ambitious version of Elizabeth and I love it. It may not have been so in reality, but hey she didn't sleep with her uncle in reality either. And compared to that sick made up portrayal of history by Phillippa Gregory she has no right to coplain that Starz changed the plot of her books cause she changed history in her books.
Olha Sum It was sick to imply that Elizabeth slept with her uncle. It didn't happen.
kimma508 Agreed, I really have nothing against incest after watching the Borgias, BUT Elizabeth and Henry were the perfect love story, my favorite historical couple, and Philippa Gregory ruined them...
Olha Sum I agree with you. Gregory tried to ruin them but I won't give her the satisfaction by watching or reading anything she writes. They are one of my favorite couples too.
Elizabeth of York would have been angered by such an accusation. Gregory's portrayal of Elizabeth of York is truly evil and wrong. Gregory has some karma coming her way for such vicious and hateful lies.
Mine too! The last documentary I saw about them but mainly about Henry was The Winter King and I've always been mesmerized by their story.
is that villanelle??!!! Going to watch this for her
Same
But this one was so boring
Villanelle the queen 😍
Is that Catlyn Stark I see as Margaret Beaufort?
I loathe the way Gregory portrays Henry and Elizabeth, but I'll confess Catlyn's actress in this show has me *mildly* curious.
Becky Weiss I agree with you. I wasn't happy with the way Henry and Elizabeth were portrayed in the White Princess. If you read the book by Alison Weir about Elizabeth of York you will get a more genuine idea of who she was and her relationship with Henry.
***** I did actually! My only issue with the book is that Weir ascribes to the idea that Elizabeth was willing to marry her uncle Richard. Why on earth would she want to marry a man that declared her and her sisters bastards, as well as possibly have a hand in directing the death of her brothers?
It makes her declaration of revenge in this trailer all the more puzzling. She should have been steering towards revenge against her uncle, who was the primary cause of her misery once her father died. Given Richard is dead now, there's little reason for Elizabeth to want a calculated plot for revenge.
Of course, who am I kidding when I question everyone's motivations? The fact that this is based off of Philippa Gregory's books says everything. She's a hack imo, and Gregory's claim that she knows history and weaves it into her books is actually offensive to me.
Other than the whole thing with Richard, the book by Weir was very interesting. She does well with what little first hand information we have of Elizabeth.
I'm incredibly dismayed that Henry VII in particular is portrayed as a sexist ass in this show and a rapist in Gregory's books. Henry's curtailing of Elizabeth's role in politics had *nothing* to do with her gender and *everything* to do with her having a stronger claim to the throne than he did. It unfortunately, resorted into Henry pushing Elizabeth towards a role of a very traditional Renaissance era Queen.
But from Weir's book, as well as a few other reliable sources I've read, I've always drawn the conclusion that Henry and Elizabeth had always gotten along reasonably well from the onset. They were at the very least, friendly acquaintances towards each other trying to make best of a sticky situation and possibly realized they needed to work together. And then, as the years went by and they had their children, an amicable partnership under stressful circumstances turned to genuine love.
To turn it the other way around, Henry would *not* want to mistreat Elizabeth - what with her stronger claim to the throne and her already solid popularity with the people of England.
sup morrigan, your curiosity has peaked my curiosity.
msyfre the other lady will be Elizabeth Woodville 'the white queen'
You know, I´ve been looking for a good depiction of this marriage and it seems Elizabeth loving Richard is very popular way to look at it. I don´t get it either. They often try to have someone else kill the two princes, so it wouldn´t be on Richard, but what the rest? Beside making her bastard and all the other things to get to throne, he killed her older brother Richard and uncle Anthony. Her Woodville family did way better after Henry took the throne, so the revenge is not a plot very well done.
Her descendents are some of the best women in history
Her grandchildren
Mary queen of scots
Elizabeth the 1
And Also
Anne of great Britain
Queen Victoria
Abd Elizabeth 2.
Best at what exactly?
It was a great series I wish there was more so they could have summed up everything! Teddy deserved better he was the sweetest 💔
I have never been more excited for something in my life. I adore Elizabeth of York and the story between herself and Henry. It will be interesting, however, to see how much they take from the book and perhaps how much they take from actual history itself. For, while I did enjoy the book, I wasn't too pleased with how Gregory potrayed a few things. Then again, that seems to always be the case in historical remakes of the sorts.
Wished you would give us a second season of this, the cast, character development, the story is so good, the finale was left open for another season episodes. Yes, there's the Spanish queen but its not this series though.
OMG SO EXCITED!!!!!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍 This is one of my most favorite books and Im beyond psyched for this. I do however wish they had kept the original actors from The White Queen.
Danae OracleofArgos I just love the Tudors story
does the book say a lot about her relationship with henry and how she's pretending and fighting them???
18jros omg I totally agree. I love Rebecca Ferguson and Amanda Hale so much
Ohh i agree, I think Amanda did so well. I despised her character so much
Amara Noels
This series is what made me fall in love with Jodie comer!!!!
I studied this period of history at university, I think most scholars still agree that Richard III had the princes in the tower murdered, not his mother. Also, what a ridiculous scene when that tiny woman smothers jasper Tudor. Richard III was Lizzie's uncle and was married, so it's unlikely they were ever lovers. The real story is dramatic enough on its own and does not need any embellishment.
"All I ever wanted was to marry a man for love." What was the writer thinking? Elizabeth of York might have though about that but there's no way she wanted to pursue it for she's a princess. Therefore, she'd be married to a man of royal/noble blood for political alliance. Even if she and her siblings were declared as bastards by their uncle, she was still promised to have a good marriage. That was one of the conditions her mother asked from her uncle to publicly swear before she and her daughters would leave sanctuary. Duh. This is what happens when 21st century people make period dramas. They tend to inject modern standards and norms. Although not all. There are quite a few good period dramas out there. The script, story, dialogue and plot in this show are just terrible.
Dane Mitch her parents married for love it makes sense that she would want to marry for love. Want and need are two different things. She could have wanted to marry for love but understand that she had to marry for political gain. Maybe if you actually had a brain you could understand this. But no you just have to go straight to hating. I apologize if I have read you wrong.
Believe it or not people could marry for love in any century as long as their partners belong to the same class as them and the circumstances are in their favour.
So worth the sleepness night... watch the whole series in one sitting... with bathroom breaks ofcourse lol... amazing as always jodie!!! Awesome story aswell!
Classic story of the bad guys winning and the good guys being subject to their crap. Love it. Loyalty binds me.
I loved this series, I loved it, I would say that one of the best series that not only tells part of the story but also the romance, the passion and vanity for osoluct power.😍🤗😊
Henry VII loved his queen so so much he basically died too when his wife Lizzy died
"This is yours now, Rob. Your kingdom, Your throne." Ohh, mY GOD!
MICHELLE FAIRLEY!!!
It looks interesting and it reminds me of Hurrem. I can't wait for this.
From magnificent century?
Call me Wanda Yeup.
any recommendation of where i can watch magnificent century season 2,3,4,. and any other series that are familiar to the magnificent shows. i fell in love with the show but unfortunately i cant finish it and i need to sat a new serie.
Stefan Djurovich same here!! It's really close to the magnificent century
Juna Antenor I recommend you to watch magnificent century : kosem i love it way better than the other magnificent century it is so good
I like the actors way better in the The White Queen 😔
is this a sequel to The White Queen?? Do I have to watch the White Queen first?
Yes, it is the sequel to The White Queen and I'm going to watch The White Queen again.
so it takes place after the White Queen? so I gotta watch the White Queen first?
You can watch The White Queen here on youtube as someone posted the series. Watch in two shows at a time . . . that way you can catch everything w/o being distracted or bored. By the second day you will be good to go and the final three episodes are terrific so watch them all at once on the last viewing. Remember that its the historical fiction that Game of Thrones' historical fantasy is based on so try to find the characters. The young King Robert Baratheon of GoT is her father Edward IV of House York for starters
tr1nidad1 oh okay I didn't know that it was based on GoT haha.. I'm binge watching The white Queen now ✌
there is one thing that will nearly always throw me out of historical dramas: women's hair. THIS SERIES IS A PRIME EXAMPLE of what NOT to do!!
Omg! It's Chloe from My Mad Fat Diary! She did a wonderful job in MMFD from making me hate her guts to making me love her, I'm excited to see this
It's already much better than the book because if I remember correctly
***spoiler alert***
Elizabeth Woodville continued moving strings around the kingdom but refused to tell Lizzie anything about it (since her youngest boy actually didn't die, according to the novel obviously, not history. Elizabeth kept trying to put him on the throne). The 'White Princess' WAS humble and penitent, always crying because she didn't want to marry him at first and when she did love Henry, he started having mistresses. Well done Starz djffnfngkg well well done ❤❤❤
He actually was described as a rare bird because he didn't have mistresses nor were talks of it/rumours... he cared for Elizabeth very deeply and they wanted him to marry again but he refused.
What happened with Prince Richard in the White Princess book? I know that historically he was taken along with his brother from the tower but since in "The White Queen" book and series he actually lives I was wondering how Gregory handled it in her next book.. I haven't read "The White Queen", I've only watched the series- to be honest after the awful Anne Boleyn portrayal and historical inacuraccy in "The Other Boleyn Girl" I'm not interested in going anywhere near Gregory's books ever again- so if anyone has read it I'd like to know...
Mysterious Stranger oh lord do u think they'll end up putting that he had mistresses in the show? that would really disappoint me, they are happy right now
this book series was phenomenal! philippa gregory is a favorite of mine.
I love how more and more historical fiction series are being made these days! In the future I'd love to see a show about Lady Jane Grey picked up (also known as the "Nine Days Queen"). She is a figure that always interested me.. "Innocent Traitor" by Alison Weir would be a great choice if they base it on a book like they did with Gregory's "White Queen" and "White Princess".
A Month of Sundays I believe Philippa is writing a novel about the Grey sisters right now.
Aleksandra Zygmanowska I really hope they won't base it on a Philippa Gregory book. We have had enough character assassinations on screen because of her.
The White Queen was my favourite series among all series!!! And since it usually takes a year for a series to come up with a sequel, I assumed that there won't be a White Princess since years have already passed by now.
But when I heard about this I'm soooOOoOoOooOOoOoo unbearably excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Elizabeth of York and Henry Tudor are my favourite monarchs in the Wars of the Roses, because their strategy to win is not war, but love! While the Plantagenet kings waged war and fought in battles to gain the throne and secure it, the Tudors used marriage to gain the throne and making love in bed to secure it through heirs. It's very romantic!!!
So I hope there would be lots and lots of love scenes! ♥
Chivalry Wright Are you sure you know what you write ? Romantic? The Tudor kings and queens were romantic? No. They were cunning,vengeful,pragmatic and they killed a lot of people to secure their power. And the Renaissance and the Middle Ages are quite different from each other.
Song at the end: Two Steps from Hell - Heart of Courage
Love conquers all! The white princess.. I am so hooked up with this miniseries. I love their tandem and their chemistry is overpowering that makes it so real. I am looking forward to seeing jodie(lizzie) and jacob(henry) in another movies together! 💗💗💗
I am a huge fan of Philippa Gregory and loved the TV adaptation of "The White Queen". Excited for the series premiere and cannot wait to read the novels of "The Cousins War" series. Wish Rebecca Ferguson and Amanda Hale reprised their roles as Elizabeth and Margaret, however the cast is awesome nonetheless.
The cast on this is awesome ..... truly I am in awe of the talent of these actors
Finaly! An awesome series of which we actually have a release date! Thank you!
‘And God put my daughter on the throne beside him’, never ever underestimate a powerful woman.
I LOVE IT! Please please please continue with season 2!!!
I have been waiting 2 years for this series after reading the books and watching The White Queen I can't wait!
The music for this trailer was written by Markus Schmidt - the name of the song is "Lonely Play".
I already saw this serie ❤️💕 This make me fall in love with the roses battle. I recomended 100%
The mystery of the two York princes is hearth breaking..
Just finished binge watching The White queen.Can't wait until this premiers.
As they pushed back the date, I resorted to rereading the book...... I cannot wait!!!!!!
I hope our Essie Davis does good things with the role- it looks like it could be a decent show.
They should really make more historical shows that involves love stories of kings and queens
That would require historical love, which isn’t historically evident
The costums look wonderful !
Fantastic! I can hardly wait for this (and American Gods as well)!!! Thank you Starz! *thumbs up*
this series broke my heart, realistic to pain
what song is the trailer?
Henry VII looks like Theon Greyjoy from Game of Thrones lol
oooooh this looks so good, so many well known actors :) now i feel like i need to watch the white queen first ;)
Weirdly enough, this is an instance where I wouldn't particularly mind them taking liberties with history. The position of Elizabeth is fascinating because, even by the customs of the time, _her_ claim to the throne was stronger than Henry VII's (who was barely even a Lancastrian). Plus, having been surrounded by power and war her entire life, there is room for some seriously interesting characterisation here. However, the real Elizabeth seems to have been a little boring. A spectator and womb-with-legs in the dynastic struggles of the day.
This isn't a criticism against stories focussing on women from medieval English history. God no. Matilda, Eleanor of Aquitaine, Margaret of Anjou, Katherine Synford, Margaret Beaufort are just interesting women who pop into my head. But I get the desire to spruce Elizabeth of York up a bit.
Kinda, but adopting the 'we don't know for sure' angle seriously constrains how much you can do. It is absolutely no exaggeration to say Elizabeth of York could have been at the head of a civil war/uprising against Richard VII, if history had played out differently. She had the claim for it. If say, she'd escaped to the continent and married a European monarch, she could have started a role-reversed Hundred Years War. Obviously, that did not happen.
Also, Henry VII's reign was not actually that exciting (at least, compared to that of his son...). I'm not saying the historical woman was an idiot...just that history did not put her in a position to make that big of a splash.
But why make a story about her though? And to be honest, she wasn't a "womb-with-legs"... Okay, maybe in terms of her political actions, maaaybe. But she had a good relationship with her husband (loving even!), engaged in charity and had interesting hobbies. In a truthful retelling of this story, she would be a very likeable side character. And you know who would be the main character? Henry's mom, a strong, politically influential woman. Pious, sure, but well-educated as well, survivor of the War Of Roses and first lady of the country. Seriously, the only reason "Lizzie" gets to be the main character seems to be the fact that she is a) young, hot and has a man fucking her and b) Philipa Gregory, author of the original books, hates both Tudors and historical accuracy.
It is still possible Richard did not have murdered his nephews and didn't let them die in prison, instead just proclaiming them dead and crowning himself king, with boys surviving untill Henry's coronation (at which point it would seem rather strange that Henry had them murdered while being so happily married to their sister, but not entirely impossible considering Henry was known to do anything to hold on to power and throne). However, it is just a theory and their mother couldn't possibly know it, otherwise it would be stupid to marry her own daughter to new king so quickly, the less just giving her up for him to "test her fertility" (like WTF, even if she was normally fertile, it might take her several years untill she gets pregnant, and besides, Henry, unscrupulous as he was, would never treat a princess of royal house far more noble than himself this way, esp. if he considered her his possible bride!).
music name?
The music for this trailer was written by Markus Schmidt - the name of the song is "Lonely Play".
I love this song but I can't find it on youtube. :(
girly1988 me neither... if anyone finds it, please share!
it's on spotify
Sounds very similar to GOT'S "Light of the Seven."
omg i remember her from a mad fat diary she's such a good actress i'm excited for this new show
idk I thought the cast (the necessary characters for this sequel) would remain the same, at least Freya as Elizabeth. But Jodie is great as well and I love the idea of Michelle as Margaret. Can't wait until April 16th!! ❤❤❤
I can't believe my favourite book is being made into a series.
It already has, this came out in 2017.
ARGHHH SO EXCITED waited 4 years ever since the white queen came out!!
"Humble and penitent be damned... Hidden and patient is my motto"
~Elizabeth
Girl yes!! SHOW EM.. they gonna learn today 👑
🗣🗣I don’t know who needs to hear this but if you haven’t watched this please watch and make sure to watch the white queen first
Jodie Comer is exceptional actress
What is the music called at the end? That plays from 1:30? I know it but from where....
WOW!! I'm so excited for this series! I really loved The White Queen, this looks like it's going to be amazing as well.. I've got my calendar marked1 :o))
Wonderful!! So excited to see this!! :D I was sad it wasn't the original actors, but in looking at the trailer - it looks stunning and I cannot wait!
Does anybody know what the song in the trailer is???
The music for this trailer was written by Markus Schmidt - the name of the song is "Lonely Play".
THANK YOU SO MUCH
At 1:02 I thought it was an editing mistake and a few seconds of some show set in the 2010's were accidentally thrown in... they weren't even trying to be historically accurate in terms of costumes, hairstyles and especially manners and speach, which is quite sad.
it says that they weren't exactly trying to match with what was exactly historical for dramatic/film purposes
OMG catelyn Stark comes back as a true Lady stone heart
0:19 Catelyn Stark in the house
Dear Starz Team, I am from gearmany and I wait very hard for this, can you please tell me when it will come to gearmany in free TV or on DVD? ☺ 💕
Ps: What I had Seen so far, was great.
Quisiera que me aclarasen ¿Esta serie esta adaptada de la novela escrita por Philippa Gregory? Si es así me hubiese gustado que el elenco fuera conformado por los actores de la serie "La Reina Balnca" pero eso no quitará que ya se me cuecen las habas por verla. 🙌
YESSSS it's about time we've been waiting let's go starz Phillipa Gregory can't go wrong
Cannot wait! So excited👑
Masterpiece drama with history background just amazing 👍☺️🇬🇧🇦🇺
I don't get why everyone has to be so antagonistic with each other in these series. By all accounts Henry VII and Elizabeth of York had a deep affection for each other and were rarely without the other so wouldn't have been better to show them working as a unit instead constantly against each other?
Didn't even know about this until today. Totally can't wait!
Does anyone know what the song at the end of the trailer is from???? and what its called?
THNX
Two Steps from Hell - Heart of Courage
Dear Starz Team I am from gearmany and I am from gearmany and I am really want to know when this amazing looking Show will come to gearmany on DVD or on free TV? 💗
what is the song at the very end. after the trailer.
Heart of Caurage - Two steps from hell :)
This trailer looked more badass then the actual tv series... started of great then was rushed and the trailer eludes to more then what actually happened
There's simply not enough Henry & Lizzie development in episode 5! Given only 8 episodes, I can only imagine why they feel the need to jump a few years head but it is a shame we didn't see more of Henry & Lizzie falling for another even out of respect/duty after their build up in episode 1-4 which I really appreciated and enjoyed watching. (sigh) How I wished WHITE PRINCESS got two seasons so it wouldn't feel so rushed.
The show is called WHITE PRINCESS but it feels less and less about Lizzie which is once again, truly a shame. :( And rather than her talking about her role as the Tudor queen (in episode 5) or how things changed between her and Henry with her cousin, I wished we actually saw it. The actress who plays Lizzie though, Jodie, is doing her role justice with the little she been given lately. Still enjoying the show nonetheless and excited for episode 6 already!
I sae Jodie and almost died
This looks awesome! I hope Netflix will add this.
Дуже класний серіал, викликає багато емоцій🔥
Where can i watch this?? Someone help pls :(
you want links?4 episodes passed already.
I found them. Thanks
what quality?I got either 720 or 1080p
Miss Fisher and Lady Stark!! Yep I need to watch this.
tbh this is more of the Lady Margaret image I had when I read 'the red queen', and I love Essie anyway. Perhaps I'm the only one who's happy about them rather than the original actors haha.
which series/movie theme is the music that is played from 1.30 sec onwards ??
Hari Haran the pillars of the earth soundtrack
Please send me the link to watch full episode please 👍
I feel like starz is taking this series more seriously than the white queen, which is a good thing.Ive been waiting forever for it ❤. anybody knows the trailer song btw?
I've watched this show before Killing Eve, and I hate her character, that means she was killing it too😍
Looks good! What can I watch it on in the UK...?
I was interested in more of jodie corners work after watching killing eve. God, she's awesome!
There is *no* historical evidence to pinpoint that Elizabeth was in love with Henry. Being financially dependent on him isn't the same thing. I'd imagine there'd be a lot of resentment for a long time, given he basically helped Richard finish destroying her family. If they became friends as time passed and they got to know each other, I'd expect it. But more than that? Nah.
And this is a work of fiction. If you want accuracy, honestly? Pick up a non-fiction book. The series has to appeal to a wider audience who won't know the specifics to make money. So, accuracy goes clean out the window. And besides: it's drawn/based off of what's in actuality a historical romance novel.
I agree. Whatever fondness or affection may have developed between them though nearly two decades of marriage , it can't be denied that he limited her role as consort to a mere figurehead/baby Factory and Kept her financially dependent on him. He allowed his mother to virtually usurp her rightful consort powers, to the point contemporaries noticed.
I believe that the moment she had some modicum of financial independence, she packed up and moved to Eltham Palace. If that's true, then that's quite the statement about her feelings toward her marriage. She'd been educated more than well-enough to rule effectively alongside a King of France, so the diminished role she had with Henry could and would have likely been seen as highly insulting.
They muzzled her, because it was a fact that the people preferred her side of the family. I also don't think she could just set aside either his reluctance to marry her in the first place or crown her. They were together for seventeen years, but I don't see any grounds for a grand romance like her parents' there between her and Henry.
It's definitely more nuanced. In ways we'll never really know because chroniclers were paid to flatter whoever was paying them, instead of recounting the truth. John Rous started one account during Richard III's reign but completed it during Henry's, and he ended up demonizing Richard in the end. Down to accusations of him having talons.
blissinchains exactly and in the last year of her life, her financial records have her going on a progress to Wales for months without Henry. Her choosing to be away from him for several months despite her advancing final pregnancy, is rather telling. I see a lot of people go on about the "love story" between Henry and EoY and while there are a few pieces of evidence that hint at an affection had grown between them through the years, it is not enough to say it was a love story and in fact, there is more evidence against it. And how happy can a marriage be where the husband doesn't trust the wife, nor her family? Where he punishes several family members of wife throughout the years and keeps wife perpetually short of cash and his mother the one yielding the power that rightfully belongs to the wife?
I also agree that the initial refusal to wed and then crown her (she wasn't even crowned until Prince Arthur was over a year) wouldn't be something she could just get over. She was the daughter of a king, it must have been insulting to her.
White queen was amazing i cant wait for this. I wish they kept the original actors from white queen