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the 3 others coping and seething while taylor proves lotr superiority
They hated Jesus because he was right..
Gandalf:
"Do not take me for a conjurer of cheap tricks."
Dumbledore:
>Literally just a conjurer of cheap tricks.
Epic Rap Battles Reference
i like taylor even more now for admitting harry potter is good
ive seen a few internet no name snoots over the years shade the series as if it is solely for kids, it immediately tells me how much they actually know about the series lol
When I was younger I would call the show nerdy af and cringy magic I ended up giving it a try and in a few days finished every movie lol haven’t watched it in a while again I need a rematch on the series
@@natenate2280 it’s pretty trash though, Taylor also likes lotr so not really the best taste lol.
@@smangosmooly9538 lotr is amazing you filthy casual
@@natenate2280 see, I can tell by just that.
Gandalf's magic is divine authority. He can block attacks from a Balrog who's presence alone can paralyze you kinda like a dementor sucking your face. They fought all the way up a mountain using magic and Gandalf had to splt the mountain in half, covered in lightning to finish him off.
Gandalf and the balrogs are the same creatures except balrogs were corrupted my Morgoth
Gandalf was literally titled "The enemy of Sauron", and was basically a Demigod sent by God himself to help the people of Middle Earth. Dumbledore was a headmaster at a wizard school. It's not close.
Dumbledore also was the only person that Voldemort (the most powerful dark wizard in history) feared. He defeated the previous dark wizard and won the most powerful wand ever.
@@erikperhs_ Gandalf is immortal, he has one of the 3 rings of power that was given to the elves, a staff crafted by God, an elvish sword and all sorts of stuff. You're going to have to do better.
@@dustinmosley5965 I mean with the hollows he technically transcends death as well but yeah gandolf prolly stronger but still it would be more interesting than ppl think I feel like
@@OARYX The Holloes don't allow you to master death, it's a fairy tale.
@@dustinmosley5965 yeah well gabdalf identified as a woman so now you're a transphobe. CANCELLED
Hearing what Woody is saying in this one kinds hurts... the magic in LOTR and Harry Potter is completely different, they aren't comparable. Like Apples and Water Melons. Also, Gandalf is a multi-millennia old demigod. Dumbledore is an old man who is a powerful wizard.
He is part god?
Gandalf is more akin to an angel contained to human form than a god. He is only given the power to complete his task to free the people of middle earth from Sauron. This is because a big theme in LOTR is the corruptive nature of power and the more naturally powerful the person being corrupted is the greater the damage they can inflict in the world.
Sigh* I know this old but I'm just now seeing it and can't let this go unanswered. Gandalf is one of the five istari sent to middle earth by the valar. The Valar are the 14 godly entitys that have a role to play in creation and life and all things in the world. Then there are the maiar (or miai) who are lesser gods and serve the valar and are also noted as being good friends of them. The istari are maiar who as I said were sent to middle earth by the valar. The istari were sent to defeat sauron, and, as lesser gods could be sent back to middle earth any time after their mortal body dies. That is why Gandalf "came back to life" because his mission of sauron's defeat was not complete (along with the corruption of sauramon and disappearance of the blue wizards and radaghast, he was the only istari still pure and worthy of the mission). In conclusion, Gandalf would absolutely rape Dumbledore six ways to Tuesday. He's a centuries old, powerful, lesser God. And that's not even getting into his exploits in the hobbit and LOTR books- which the movies left many, many out- while you have Dumbledore who is just a mortal wizard that can swish and flick his wrist with a stick in his hand
Sure man but if you read the lotr trilogy and the Harry potter books you will see a lot of influence from Tolkien. Dumbledore DEFINITELY is inspired by Gandalf; sure, he is kind of a demigod but he is supposed to act and to be perceived (both by people in his universe and by us the readers) as a very wise and kind old man. Dementors are also inspired by the Nazgul (though these one is fairly obvious in my opinion).
Jesus you sound like a loser
12:00 Actually, the Room Of Requirements appears in the first book. Dumbledore mentions that one day he really needed a bathroom and he found one, but then he never found that same bathroom again. So yeah, it's not a pothole, she always had in her mind that "there's a room that appears only sometimes"
That doesn't mean it's a good out tho my man👌
That doesn’t even refute his point
AchTkUAlLy
@@jaygin6518 He said the Room is a random way JK found to have the students learn how to fight, as if she just came up with it out of nowhere in book 5, and I'm saying that's NOT the case. The Room had been established before.
@@themilkman9969 well why not? They needed a place to learn and found a spare room in the castle, that's a completely natural solution.
taylor respect gained
love how he lays out his response to hp but from the moment woody slips his dumbledore > gandalf faux pass - taylor just goes ham against hp
a true man of culture and enjoyer of tlotr
gandolf wasn’t supposed to use his full power and was greatly nerfed going to middle earth in the form of an old man… at least that’s what I concluded reading the books! Also after some thought Tolkien kind of invented wizards 🧙🏼♂️🧙♀️🧙
Absolutely right, he wasn't sent to do everyone's work for them. He was there to guide and give counsel, sure he participated in battle but seldom did he go full power.
Yeah, it's very convenient to say "oh this character is SUPER POWERFUL, it's just that he's not allowed to do anything"
@@erikperhs_ okay, let me paint you a scenario. If you were morbidly obese and you had to lose weight or else you'll die, what would help more?
Learning to diet and exercise so you can lose the weight and keep it off or just magically (no pun intended) make you thin and have you gain it all back since you were just handed success instead of being taught to earn it. Gandalf was an angel who was sent to middle earth as an old man, on purpose with diminished power to guide men and the elves to victory and bring about the age of man since the power of the elves was waining. Dumbledore while I'm sure powerful in his own right, is a mortal with one lifetime experience and limited by how much he can learn. Gandalf is around 2000 years old and his power is naturally granted to him, not limited by how much he could read up on spells.
@@erikperhs_
Dude it's simple. "Give a man to fish...", etc. You can't go around fixing everyone's problems, they never learn.
Gandalf helps those that help themselves
@@erikperhs_ well you just described God lol
Just got done listening to the audiobooks again. So good
They are. I have the Stephen Fry ones on my PC and put it them on every damn device I can.
@@KiteAndKeyProductions I listened to a few Jim Dale versions of those audiobooks and switched to Stephen Fry. Sooooo much better. I have the complete Stephen Fry set on all of my devices, also.
@@KiteAndKeyProductions I’ve listening to a couple different versions and his are definitely the best. The different voices he does are great
Just read the damn books! I have mild dyslexia and adhd and had zero problems with reading them!
@@michaelbronson7410 I used to spend half my old job driving across the country lol those audiobooks were the only thing that made it bearable.
the way woody and kyle talk about the magic in lotr makes one really understand they've never read the books
Pretty sure Kyle said he read lotr in prison
@@OK-xe3ut im sure he did but 3/4s of the lore is in the appendices and other books
@@ronlewis3964 jeez
*the way Kyle and woody talk makes it clear they have watched a movie not dedicated significant time to studying the entire universe*
Well duh
@@RandoManFPV i mean kyle had 60 days to do fuck all but read and work out so i would have expected him to grasp it a bit better but woody probably read the book in highschool and hasnt touched it since. it doesn't take a long time to grasp the concepts in a book if you are actually reading and processing the words on the page...
@@ronlewis3964 exactly but as you stated it's not processing the words *of a book*. "3/4s of the lore is in appendices and the other books"
That's a lot more than just one book, that is a large investment of time in today's world for an overall pointless result.
While I enjoy investing my time in such fantasies it shouldn't be hard to understand that not everyone does or has the time to fully research a made up world. Some people only have time to see the movie. Or read the original series years ago.
The Tolkien style magic is less incantations with a flair and flick of the wrist. It's the summoning of your intent and pushing it into existence.
It's kind of like with D&D there's a way Wizards cast spells, and Sorcerers. In D&D, wizards learn and cast spells through learning and repeating the process of using components, moving and speaking a phrase to execute a spell. Sorcerers on the other hand are conduits of magic, they more or less focus on what they want the magic flowing through them to do and it takes shape to give them their desired effect.
D&D uses Vancian magic, which is basically: "you trap this extra-dimensional entity called a spell on your brain and then you unleash it into the world where it will do this one specific thing."
I think LotR is closer to magic in Call of C'thulhu. You basically have a POW stat that basically acts as your "cosmic food chain level" that lets you cast magic that is basically: "Roll some dice, if you roll low, your will is done. If you fail, you can chose to have it work anyway but it will bite you in the ass later."
My point is that Harry Potter and D&D have ridged magic systems and LotR and CoC have fluid magic system's.
@@alexanderchippel I disagree with your understanding of D&D magic. My way of running it at my games has always been the understanding that magical energy flows through all things at varying strengths. Diving magic comes from mortals worshiping a deity, giving them power. And the deity can give out some of that magic to their clerics, cultists or paladins. Druids in my world works similar but it's the druids tapping into the latent magic in the flora and fauna around them. Arcane magic is a manipulation of the weave formed by the tendrils of magic.
That's why in my games, a druid, sorcerer, cleric and wizard would all have different methods for casting even the same spells. Because the wizard is repeating a practiced phrase, with a flourish and expending a component. A cleric casting the same spell may simply be calling on their deity to do the same.thing and holding out their holy symbol. A sorcerer just concentrates on his intent and manipulates their flowing arcane energy into making it manifest... Etc.
That's why in my games counterspell isnt always straight forward, the players are told the NPC is casting a spell, all those who can see them may attempt to counter it. I mod the DC based on pertinent factors. Has the person seen this spell before? Have they seen this spell cast specifically this way before? If so the DC is reduced. If not, do they speak the language it's being cast in? Are the familiar with this flavour of spell caster? The reason I see it is a counter spell is attempting to disrupt the flow of magic being used for the spell, but depending on the intent of the spell you could make no difference. The more familiar someone is with the spells and the casters the better reward. Otherwise nobody cares about arcana training.
You freaking nerds.
There were 2 theories of magic in Middle Earth. Essence and Channelling. Elemental types, mages, and bards are into Essence where you are pulling natural energies that exist within Creation…. Channeling is usually healers, animists, paladin type where they are drawing energy from a sentient or semi-sentient entity or deity type creature… such as The Valar.
EG. Gandalf was Olorin, the Maia servant of Manwe…. So it could he argued in Gandalf’s magic he was Channeling Manwe…. also he had the Ring of Fire.. which had elemental Essence.. but as been mentioned he is pretty much a Demi-God🤷♂️. But beyond lesser gods most cannot do both such schools.
Lotr magic is more in line with druid magic
@@Dreadnaught1985 You didn't mention warlocks who basically sell their soul to some powerful being for magic power, this is different from a cleric who simply worships a deity, warlocks make a pact and exchange something for the magic in return. And of course D&D mechanics if you actually pay attention to them make important differences between the different spell casters.
Dumbledore's fire magic in the half blood Prince was end game Final Fantasy tier.
Gandalf is close to a demigod and his true form is 1000’s of years old. Gandalf > Dumbledore
It still doesn't explain why he's more powerful
I mean, Woody is in the wrong here but I still think Dumbledore would stand a chance against Gandalf the Grey. But against Gandalf the White or when he is in his Maia form as Olórin and his powers are unrestricted? No chance.
Really? Gandalf seemed pretty useless
@@erikperhs_ Gandalf is old enough to have far more knowledge and experience. Can use verbal spells without his staff so he isn’t tied to just using a tool. He is essentially immortal. Resurrected like 10x more powerful. And he can defeat demons like the Balrog haha.
@@squando621 I’d have to disagree! He was basically the guide for everyone through the fight vs good & evil. He almost connects everyone to each other.
Full respect to Kyle for his reaction to Taylor dismissing the room of requirement. Thats a true fan there!
how has taylor not watched the harry potter movies until now
I’ve only watched the first one as a toddler; I don’t give much fucks for magic stuff so i always avoided it. Why use a stick when people got glocks ya feel.
@@dustindubbo2892 Little cringe lmao
I just watched them last year. I worked at a movie theater and when we shut down because of covid as we opened up we were playing throwbacks so we showed all the Harry Potter movies and that was the first time I watched them and it was amazing watching them in a theater basically alone with only my friends
I read the first book, found it hella boring and never seen anything related to HP again. Idk the magic stuff is not my cup of tea.
@batsbob They're also way different classes of literature. Harry Potter is a youth book, and as such does is job well. LOTR is a different best entirely.
People talking about Gandalf vs Dumbledore but not Sauron vs Voldemort.
Voldemort was beaten by a couple of kooky kids. Lotr just has a way higher power ceiling. Even Legolas would get pretty damn far if he went on a Hogwarts school shooting.
Sauron was basically the antithesis of the gods in lotr pure power and evil
gandalf is literally a god in the universe...
I just started listening to the audiobooks again yesterday... And then I'm gonna rewatch the films.
Kyle’s face when Taylor says “I know Harry does die” 🤣
For someone who claims to love Harry Potter, Kyle knows fuckall about the series. How do you think that the kids were 5 years old in book 1 and not know the name of Quidditch?
Gandalf is basically an incarnated angel. Like taylor said, theyre different universes. You can't compare an exceptional mortal to a cosmic being in any one universe.
11:12 "the ministry of magic made it illegal" made me lol
Kyle really going with dumbledoor in the vs debate. Gandalf is literally an immortal celestial in human form
"Mousy Rat Guy"
Yes. Just yes 😂😂😂😂
five?? lool
Kyle is getting dumber as time goes on. He used to be based and pretty sharp...
@@connerrhoden2658now he's cringe and orbits lady boyz
That is soooo fkn gooood, the deathly hallows movies are god damn amazing
Fred was the death that really affected me in the last one
Fred, Sirius, and hedwig. Dobby was annoying as f tbh.
@@Pendst lmao true! Dobby didnt deserve to die, but i wasn't that upset when he did
I don't know why it bothers me so much that kyle thought they were 5 in the first book
Whenever I see this clip I think of Hurins last stand read by Christopher lee and Taylor is hurin😂
I could be wrong about this but:
The room of requirement actually is interesting and not just used in this moment.
It also presents itself in the most interesting way when something, oddly enough, needs to be lost.
When Harry decides he must get rid of the half blood book the room of requirement presents itself as a huge room full of unlimited items, infact I think a horcorux was hidden in there by voldemort. And the only reason anyone could ever locate it is becuase Harry technically is a part of that horcorux so he could simply feel its presence
One of the funniest things ever was when Opie and Anthony sent a couple guys with a megaphone to spoil the Dumbledore death. They went to the release and just yelled, "Snape kills Dumbledore"
Love Opie and Anthony. But that shits just annoying and unfunny. I'm willing to bet it was an Opie idea.
@@doorwaysniffer6447 Ant's idea was better. "Let's go down to the release and yell fbi statistics at kids"
That's not funny at all.
That's "one of the funniest things ever" to you? Christ man
@@sjtv6565 the audio from it was. The people losing their shit was hilarious. Even funnier was when the van got blocked in, and after spoiling everything, and they couldn't get away from the mob that just enraged.
“My wife and I” lol rip
There is a video on how magic works In TLOTR and I do say I agree with Taylor on this Gandalf is like the doom slayer against all of hell. Not necessarily OP but very powerful.
The argument isn't who is the better wizard cause Gandalf isn't a wizard. He's a demigod sent to Middle Earth, in old man wizard form, to guide the inhabitants in the right direction. Until that job is complete he's immortal basically, and even after it's complete he just goes back to Valinor where he assumes his original form.
Touch grass nigga
Kyle: “in the first one they’re like 5”
💀💀💀
He said it was great that's all I needed to hear
I hate when people say that everyone has seen it when spoilers are brought up, no they have not.
I cried when Dobby died too, he did it all for his friends...
to defend the quidditch at the end, iirc theres mention about a game where one team one even tho the other got the golden snitch
Taylor is in for real twist when he sees snape in the last one.
Reason why there's a new professor in the Dark Arts every year is because Voldemort during the dark times wanted to be the dark arts professor at Hogwarts. Dumbledore declined, so Voldemort cursed the school so that no one will teach the dark arts for more than a year.
In my personal opinion any kind of new adaptation to the “wizarding world” would be the biggest thing to happen to the movie/ film industry since original Star Wars movies.
Gandalf is imortal. He's been around since the beginning of time..maybe even before. The old man is his physical body. But even if that dies he can come back or live on in his other form he existed in for who knows how many years...way more powerful lol.
You only know Harry Potter if you read the books, the movies are just a glimpse of that universe
Gandalf went toe to toe with wraiths and dark lords that are orders of magnitude greater than anything in the Harry Potter universe. Not to even mention the Balrog.
Even a muggle could beat Gandalf. All they need is a gun
@@Heuhegeygeygeheu Gandalf is shown to restrain multiple weapons with a thought, guns wouldn’t touch him.
@@The1992257 Nah he'd be too busy looking at it wondering what it is then BANG
@@Heuhegeygeygeheu he’s literally a universe altering god, pretty sure he’d figure it out. Even if not Gandalf is just an extension of his true form, Olorin.
Dude Gandalf is a punk. Let him roll through Detroit for half an hour and let's so how he fairs. Dumbledore is down with all my brother's
Gandalf is an angel
Dumbledore is the most powerful wizard in the world, where the second most powerful wizard in the world was defeated by children.
It's hard to argue who's stronger because Dumbledore has incredibly strong magic, but in the end is just a "normal" mortal being. Gandalf has arguably weaker magic but is a magical being which could easily give him the edge. I can't see the spells from Harry Potter killing Gandalf in one shot like they do in the Harry Potter universe.
Another thing that makes it difficult to compare is the fact that Harry Potter is based in reality to a point, while LOTR is a completely fantasized world. While Harry Potter has more in depth magic (since that's entirely the focus of the series, wizards) LOTR has fantasy characters that aren't bound to just using magic, many of them ARE magic by our standards in the sense that they live for thousands of years or have supernatural abilities.
Dumbledore’s a magician, Gandalf’s more like an angel/demigod, an example being Gandalf and the Balrog are essentially the same race
It’s a difference of having a “soft” versus “hard” magic system
Yeah yeah I know 🤓
one time thingy survives in the book that has Harry and Ginny’s son aswell as malfloys son
the magic in harry potter creates plotholes, the magic in lotr is solid and all fits into the lore
No. Why didn't they fly the Eagles to Mordor?
@@summerrunner1755 bc they didn’t feel like it okay
Great anime twist with snape
Listening to these guys talk about Gandalf is funny, the guy is legit a god who was present near the beginning of time itself, dumbledore is just an old man with jazz hands
the room of requirements, hermione's little bag that has literally everything in it, airdrop phoenix, need harry to know something secret? boom marauders map that just magics the way through everything.
Kyle looks like Harry pothead
I love how snape wasnt a double or triple agent, he was a QUADRUPLE agent. He works for voldemort but he actually works for Dumbledore but he ACTUALLY DOES work for voldemort BUT ACTUALLY HE WAS DOUBLE DOUBLE CROSSING VOLDEMORT AND WORKED FOR DUMBLEDORE!!!!
Also i love both lord of the rings and harry potter but i do like lord of the rings more. Dumbledore would wipe the floor with gandalf, he uses a sword, conjures light, calls eagles, and blows smoke ships... he might've been a bit wise and killed the balrog but would NEVER be able to beat dumbledore.
And dont give me that "but gandalf is one of those immortal celestial god things" and as true as that is the celestials as they are arent very strong or influential, they just exist for a purpose. Gandalf only came back cause his purpose wasnt fulfilled. If dumbledore killed gandalf he wouldnt just keep coming back over and over.
Dumbledore is just a guy who can do magic. Gandalf is literally a demigod and the only reason he didn't solve the entire book himself is because he didn't want to risk getting seduced by literally Satan.
And because literal god told him not to he could only help
10/10 content
If you don't read the books you will never understand the yearly teacher change for DADA. Unless someone tells you why it happens.
Actually, at the Quidditch World Cup Krum caught the snitch for Bulgaria, ending the match, but Ireland won the match because they had more points. Plus only the seeker is allowed to go after the snitch.
I'm actually really mad at Taylor every time Woody asks why gandalf is more powerful, he doesn't explain anything and just makes a joke. Fucking irritating.
Gandalf is a fucking immortal supernatural being it's just not a contest.
Because engaging Woody in honest debate is a joke in of itself lol
Asking Kyle if he's high; REALLY Taylor? LMAO
Taylor is fucking hilarious lmao
the way magic is in Harry Potter, every spell was created by someone who was capable of wielding magic and Hogwarts teaches all of the useful spells that have been created throughout history. Merlin is a character in the Harry Potter world, so I'd assume that someone like Gandalf, or even Gandalf himself, also existed and spells they've created are part of the curriculum. LotR takes place before the Age of Man, so it's entirely possible that at that point in time, magic wasn't as well understood and the HP universe uses that magic to it's full potential since there's been thousands of years of people creating spells.
Dumbledore would whoop Gandalf in a duel since Dumbledore has a significantly higher knowledge of magic. It's not that either one is more powerful than the other, it's that the world of HP has more developed magic that's taught to ALL people capable of using magic.
Dumbledore > Gandalf the Grey
Dumbledore < Gandalf the White
It ain't that difficult
anyone know what type / brand of jacket kyle is wearing?
Ur mom
I watched a random clip of Kyle talking about reading them a few weeks ago and immediately watched all of the movies then ordered all the books. Currently on book 6, it might be my favorite fantasy series I've ever read or watched. Didn't fall apart like game of thrones, and it's hard for me to argue that lord of the rings is better.
You gotta read A Song of Ice and Fire, the TV show doesn't do it justice, even the really good first season isn't as good as the book. So much detail is lost.
If you can't see how LoTR is better than a literal young adult series written for teenagers, that's because you are not very intelligent.
"Fuck yeah!"
Listening to the LOTR argument was hilarious. Gandalf is literally an immortal heavenly being sent to earth to annihilate the the devil’s right hand, Dumbledore was Churchill. Not even a comparison.
Snape never got the dark arts job because dumbaldore knew it was cursed or he cursed it himself I can’t remember
“Time travel is hard to write for.” You guys hate lost and they did it pretty well
Room of requirement is literally deus ex machina
Taylor needs to read the books
Gandalf is incredibly powerful but he mostly works through manipulating events and setting things in motion, he obviously aids in these events but he's not really meant to solve the problems explicitly for the humans, hobbits, or even elves he's basically an avatar of the Gods to help counter the presence of Morgoth's tainting of Middle Earth, otherwise he wouldn't be there, the Gods want the mortals to figure it out on their own but because of Morgoth and Sauron the Gods were willing to intervene a little bit. In a 1 on 1 battle Gandalf could completely fuck Dumbledore, he's not really shown doing crazy magical things because that wasn't his place, but he did kill a Balrog and basically died and came back even more powerful than before.
How do you forget The Golden Snitch it sounds like something else lol
Some of Taylor's complaints can be explained by reading the books as so much gets left out of the movies.
Also i think it's silly to complain about "lazy writing" in a book with endless magic. You could make that argument with anything in the series. Harry's mom sacrificed herself, thus casting a protective charm over Harry. The charm then blocks a supposedly unblockable curse, defeating Voldemort and linking them via a soul connection, protecting Harry even more.
Why even watch something with magic if you're going to poke holes in the magic?
6:36 discord ping
Are we not even gonna mention the duel between Gandalf and Saruman? Sarumans Fireball?
Hagrid a wheelchair now that’s the crazy thing
Taylor…. Your favorite character dies in the last movie in the last moments. You’re welcome. 😂
Ohh you have to watch fantastic beasts after the harry potter series!!!
6:16 yeah of fucking course.
I love how Taylor started off talking really well of the series of films, and then has to shit on it when he's arguing for Gandelf.
WoodT, Lyle, some cod dude, and God himself.
The only good Harry Potter movie is the one where they remade it using all guns in replace of Wands and special effects.
Bruh 5? How do you get it so wrong?
Taylor rules
Woodies and kyles comments about gandalf makes my tism boil
I like lord of the rings better but the magic in Harry Potter is actually destructive and offensive and magic in lord of the rings is mostly passive and intangible
When dumbledoor was made gay my ex called him bumsomemore now that's his name
Nooooo dobby
Only one person is allowed to go for the snitch
Snow?
I agree with Taylor. Gandalf stomps ass
First line aged like eggs and milk
dobby dies at the end of movie 7 and it was so unnecessary
Harry Potter is a real conflicted series. On one hand, it’s excellently written and filled with enough mystery, whimsy, and depth to be entertaining and engaging at pretty much any stage of life at any amount of rereads. The movies are all good, and remain foundational classics in the lives of a lot of people.
On the other, it ultimately stands for nothing. Harry as a character serves largely as a blank slate for the audience, and thus a slate for Rowling. Harry doesn’t beat Voldemort by defeating what he stands for, he beats Voldemort by tricking him into some obscure “gotcha” to kill himself. Voldemort is a fairly obvious metaphor for fascist movements throughout history; he leads a movement of wizard elites and political extremists through a violet revolution. All harkening back to the legacy of Salazar Slytherin, the OG British wizard racist.
Harry doesn’t beat Voldemort by raising a real counter revolution, he raises one in favor of maintaining the status quo, a status quo that allowed for Voldemort’s rise in the first place. Harry has no intention or desire to Improve the system, just join it and maintain it. His endgame is becoming an auror, the wizard FBI. Harry stands for nothing, because Rowling stands for nothing. Harry can’t be anything more than a vessel for Rowling’s politics, and her neoliberal worldview can’t act or accept anything beyond the legal limits of the given system. That’s why liberals never get anything done, they scoff and turn their heads at acts they deem immoral, but wait for some obscure legal Gotcha to take care of the problem rather than buckling down and removing it themselves.
And on the third, mysterious floating hand, despite the problems listed above, Harry Potter remains a likely eternal classic. Rowling, for reasons known only to her, has decided to update the canon of her world through tweets and blog posts until it became so twisted with bizarre hamfisted attempts to keep her world up with modern political norms, to keep it consistent with the present perpetually. Yet, she also made the race of bankers small hooknosed goblins, who just love money, which is really god damn funny. There’s also a Star of David on the floor of gringotts bank, google it, it’s some of the wildest shit you’ll see.
In conclusion, fuck you
Over analyzing it buddy
You clearly didn't read the books then. Harry is NOT an empty vessel, he's extremely sassy, he's a natural leader, he has a clear view of what he stand for and he fights for it. Think about it: with everything he went through, the normal thing would be to just give up and be a dick, but he never did that. He was always good. Until the end even, when he had *the most powerful wand in existence* and still decided to not use it, because doing the right thing is more important to him than having power.
And the message JK is sending with the story is very clear: it doesn't matter how "powerful" you are if you don't have love and friendship to straighten and guide you. Harry survives because of his mother's love when he was 1, then he survives again because of a mother's love when Draco's mother lies to Voldemort in order to try and save her son, Voldemort himself was the way he was because he was born from a relationship that didn't have love and never felt a mother's love...
Of course Kyle says oh the book the book is so much worse the book
I don't like the series but I have to say book harry is way better than movie harry.
the reason snape didnt get the job is because voldermort cursed the job thats why they didnt last longer than a year
if that's true it's fucking hilarious, cursing a job just sounds so ridicolous
@Mr Spitsworth did you name yourself that because it brings up the nostalgia of your dad spitting in your mouth after a good beating?
Gandoloph is a Demi god who’s thousands of years old he smokes dumbledumb