Just upgraded my 1070 to 3060 ti for 1440p gameplay. I'm happy with my decision. Grabbed it at $480 while the 3700 was at $600. The 10ish% improvement isn't worth the extra buck imo.
Same Im with 1070 and consider going with the 3060ti .. since im playing on low settings anyways , i'd be more than happy with high set. + price diff fs .
I guess it depends on the region, but I'm in the southern US & I got my Zotac 3060ti OC edition (non-GDDR6X) for $340 new/open box. But it was through a local seller, not a retail outlet or website. It's also an LHR model which is why I'm guessing it was priced below MSRP but either way I don't care for crypto mining capability. I was just glad to finally get something way better than my 8gb RX 580.
@@couriersix2443 I almost went with ZOTAC first, it was under $400. But I decided to drop the extra $80 on the MSI card due to overclockability. I've had this card for a few weeks now and I am EXTREMELY satisfied with the performance and results with 1440p. Max everything, great looks. No reason to go above that for 1440p especially if money is tight.
@@LedZeppelinPage yeah man, I completely understand. Bigger heatsink + triple fan cards are easier to cool which gives more OC headroom. I've managed to get a decent OC out of this card (even as a dual fan + single 8-pin model) but it gets kinda loud hahahaha. I've had it stable at 110% PL, 2160Mhz + 7500Mhz for the mem (haven't tried going past +250) and it's freakin stellar. Last time I did a purely synthetic bench on that profile it was damn near within striking distance of a stock 3070 FE. Even if it does sound like a 787 prepping to launch off the runway 😂 that's basically been the only downside to me cheating out honestly, but temps peaked at 70c and never really budged until after it finished and dropped the clocks back down to idle. All of it was done with Afterburner & a custom (yet somewhat aggressive) fan curve. While the fan noise is unpleasant to most, I don't really notice it when I've got my headset/ANC earbuds on. Looking back though, the triple fan RGB Strix model would've been more to my liking. But like you said, more performance for less money is always a W. The fact that I'm able to fully utilize the card with a $150 CPU (R5 5600) that was a drop in replacement on my existing mobo is just incredible. This time a year ago would've cost well over $1k for the same performance, but all said and done I've probably spent like $650-680 (mix of new/open box stuff, local sales at Micro Center, and a few used parts via local marketplace)
I looooove the way the videos are put together. No sponsorship crap, straight to the point, and the way you put your videos into chapters by cutting them up into parts makes it so easy for me to find exactly what I'm looking for without wasting 20 minutes looking for the part I'm interested in. Doing god's work Daniel!
No sponsorship sorry I just want him to do hours of work for a 20 min video for free god you're entitlement is sad dude saves you hours of research and you can't handle a 2 min ad
Thank you so much for doing this video. From what I've been able to observe, the 3070 is much better with frame timing than the 3060 ti. I noticed on several occasions that the 3060 ti's perception of smoothness was much choppier than the 3070's simply due to the difference in frame timing, even at high fps. This video has convinced me to spend the extra couple bucks to avoid the choppier framerate of the cheaper card.
Good video. Another thing about the 3060ti is there are a few models with only a single 8pin connection (I have 2 of them). Great little card at/near MRSP.
love my 3060ti. Cyberpunk at max settings, max rtx, and the quality dlss gets me above 55 fps which is what i locked the game to. otherwise, its inbetween 55 and probably around 75. great experience with a controller
Having used the 3070 primary at 4k, I have found that it can handle most games at 4k with optimized settings (usually High) and DLSS Quality. It’s certainly not as good as the 3080 and above, but it’s value is unmatched by almost anything else.
I still wouldn’t recommend the 3070 for 4k. As you said you had to adjust setting and needed DLSS just to reach playable FPS. And there’s the problem, if you have to lower settings nowadays what will be in 2 years+? You also have to mention the relatively low VRAM of just 8GB. 8GB aren’t even the best for 1440p so problems are just gonna get worse at 4k. So in long term the value gets pretty bad at 4k. But anyways still a good 1440p card.
So a 3060ti is more than enough for 2k gaming good to know since my 2060 super struggles a bit with more recent games. Ray Tracing would be nice to have but i made it 20 years without it and i think a few more years without it wont kill me ^^ btw the price difference here between a 3060ti and a 3070 is a whooping 150-200€ so yeah i dont think thats worth it for 15% more performance
I would love to see a video from you about buying used graphics cards - I know it is a lot more difficult to get average prices, etc. but even a video where you discuss what you would be looking for in terms of a discount, by card, would be interesting. That, and you could discuss the pros/cons of buying used! I've bought a lot of used components for my pc, netting me an approx. 25% discount on my entire PC and I have never had any issues.
@@meersffej1 Of course they are selling it for a reason but, in most cases, the reason is nothing to be worried about. Typically, the reason is that they have upgraded to a better card themselves or, as is common now, the card was mined on and the cryptocurrency crash means it is no longer cost effective to mine on the card. LTT did a video last year showing that there is no performance degradation when mining a card and I recently bought a 3070 mined for two years and it performs as well as my friend's 3070 in games.
@@meersffej1 most people are selling cards because they have upgraded to something better. i bought my gtx 1080 when the rtx 3070 launched and the dude just sold it obviously because he got a 3070.
@@meersffej1 I have bought a lot of used gpus and no issues with them is almost like buying a cpu, they don't die that often, but other components like motherboards that's a different story and I agree people sell them for a reason
@@dwayne1859 I picked up a amd rx6600, sadly though I've come across some limitations like playing vr and rendering so I'm most likely going to upgrade to a 30 series later this year
"managed"??? 3070's have been avaliable for 700-750€ for 2 months now, that's a bad deal. Should get them for 500-550€ now, or 50-100€ more if new and good model.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j Well I got it brand new, its the ASUS TUF OC model. There is nowhere that sells them for less than €700. Some places here still charge close to €1000
@Jeji prices in other parts of the world aren't the same as in the US though. Some places still charge over €1000. It's only a stop gap until I can get a RTX 4090 or RX 7900 XT.
Do you plan on testing the cards mainly with the out of the box sort of configuration? The 3060ti looks to be running a fair bit hotter out of the box for a couple of these tests which makes me think the 3070 if given a more aggressive power plan could run away from the smaller chip.
I'm impressed with the performance of the 3060 Ti, but I'm happy I chose the 3070. That extra performance really comes in handy, and it makes playing in 4k much more enjoyable, despite not being the absolute best experience. But hey, it's the best you can get unless you're willing to break the bank with an 3080.
i know what you say. The 3070 is a superior product in all departments. I just waited 5 months and i got it for 300$ second hand. It's a big upgrade from the gtx1080
Amazing video! Is it possible you could do something similar to this, but with the 3070 and the 3070 ti? Im very interested in seeing how the memory differences affect frametime.
It's even smaller the difference from the rtx 3070 to the 3070ti u can see similar results with a 1000mhz overclock to the memory and 150mhz to the clock speed u will get almost the same performance in most games
I have a gamerock rtx 3070 ti, which i got for £750 a few months back since it was practically the same price as the rtx 3070, and I'd say that I am pretty happy with it, it gives around 10 percent better performance more than the rtx 3070, which doesn't seem like much, but after an overclock of 170 to the core and 1ghz to the memory it then gives me another ten percent which makes the difference between the two very noticeable and it is now under 10 percent slower than the rtx 3080, which at the time that I got it was a pretty good deal especially since the rtx 3080 was around £1000 at the time.
@@SiLva_SuRfa in a 12 game average in 1440p its 8 percent faster than the 3070 and on 4k it's 10 percent faster so it will get you from 119 fps and with a heavy overclock 124 average fps on 1440p to 128 and with a very heavy overclock maybe to 133 fps and a stock rtx 3080 would get stock 151 fps so even best case scenario u are still 18 fps away from a 3080 in performance and only 9 fps away from a overclocked 3070
I bought the 3060TI and play games at 4k on it. I know I need to turn down the settings but as long as it still looks good I don't really care. Waiting for next-gen cards until I upgrade to a high-end card. Tried this generation and I couldn't get one at a reasonable price.
Turning down graphics from ultra to high is perfectly fine if it means getting over the hurdle of a stable minimum of 60 fps considering how little difference anyone can really see in-game and this is even more effective the higher the resolution. Personally I have a 3060 ti and play at 1440p with a 165 Hz g-sync monitor and turning down some details and effects to achieve above 120fps in "graphical" games is worth more than having barely better looking leaves or shadows 👍
it is absolutely capable of 4k. most games just flick dlss onto quality and you'll have over 60fps with high or ultra in demanding games. only worry is how long will it be able to do 4k because of the 8gb vram.
@AVLRECORDS depends what settings ur running. I've got a 3080 gaming laptop which is roughly equivalent to the 3060ti desktop card in performance and I am more than satisfied with the performance when I am home and connect it to my 1440p 32 inch 144hz panel. No I don't get 144fps as I tend to aim for 60fps instead and turn on Ray tracing or something but it's definitely not slow haha.
I don't need ultra settings I have been playing at low-med settings my entire life, and now when I finally bought the 3060 Ti I am gonna stay at those graphics settings to just enjoy the higher framerate and if possible I will even turn up the graphics settings somewhere where I get above 144 fps at 1440p
@@NoName-yf7bx best bang to buck card if you can get it for below 400€, also I would recommend buying 3 fan version, bcs 2 fan version tends to heat up to 80°C and it decreases the lifespan of the gpu
I have 1500 saved up to build a computer in july 2023. Should I buy a rtx 3080 now for around 700 or wait for the newer 4000's RTX to come out. Afraid the prices will go up next year when I will build one. Want 1440p 144hz and mostly for VR gaming.
Great Video! Personally, I'm waiting for the next gen GPUs, either Nvidia or AMD. On a side note, I never play games on ultra settings, my choice of settings are usually anything above medium or with minimums above 60.
yep, same price are finally coming way down and the New Cards will come in and be available for the actual Correct non BS Bitcoin miner scalpers prices!
@@karthiksk3437 Nvidia store, I'm in the UK though. They have lots of stock, normally up for a few days. Make sure to keep an eye on the official store, you won't find brand new ones any cheaper
There's always "that guy" who does the old "just overclock the slower card to make it as fast as the stock faster card" Why does every video like this have "that guy" in the comments, and why does that guy never realize the faster card can be overclocked too?!?
@@pf100andahalf I think we can all agree that a 3060Ti is close to a 3070 and a 3070 is close to a 3070Ti and a 3070Ti is close to a 3080 and a 3080 is close to a 3080Ti and a 3080Ti is close to a 3090 and a 3090 is close to a 3090Ti... what's your point? Every card is a little faster than the lower SKU... not a secret... do you know what else isn't a secret? I think we can all agree EVERY GPU CAN BE OVERCLOCKED. Don't be that guy.
@@wolfshanze5980 TBH 3060TI, 3070TI is a lot closer to 3070 since they're using the same die. while 3080 is a different animal you cannot overclock 3070TI to match it, same with 3060 to 3060 TI becuse they're using different die. about overclock is very different too from card to card. some 3060TI can only go so far maybe 210w and other can goes as high as 260w. the same can be said for 3070. the lower end of 3070 is basically the same as higher end 3060ti that's how close they are with the perfornance. i dont get all the salt here.
Was going to buy a 4060ti for my 1st gaming pc but am lucky enough to have a very generous mate who gave me his old 3060ti for free. Paired it with an i5 12400, its a nice upgrade over my xbox series s. Very happy with 3060ti.
Got a 3060 ti OC edition recently at near MSRP. Though it is not marketed as a 4k card, I am quite surprised at the performance it gives for 2160p. VRAM is the limiting factor here and I ain't a ray tracing worshipper. ✅1080p - Just EZ for this card. RT is something that "might" require DLSS (like some areas in Spiderman), otherwise, it's smooth AF. 🟡1440p/4k DLSS - go blindly with 3060ti if you want constant 60-75 FPS. If you have a higher refresh rate monitor, you CAN go with 3070 but make sure you are not bottlenecked by any other hardware (Like CPU, even disk speed and RAM). ❌4k native - Well, go with something with a higher VRAM cap because 8GB just won't do (in most games). DLSS might help you in some cases but you'll be at the mercy of gaming industry. (I pray day and night for FSR 2.0 to be available to each and every game FFS). You might get away with 3070 Ti at this time but you won't be future proof. Sorry and it hurts to say but 3080 and higher is the range you are looking for. 💰 Just think through what you need and check if you are not bottlenecked by anything else. And most importantly, remember that - . . . While you are exploring Night City, Takemura is still waiting at Tom's diner!!!! 🤣
Just got the 3060ti. PC parts here in the Philippines are ridiculously expensive. This card is excellent for 1440p high refresh rate gaming. It could also do 4k 60 fps, but don't put everything on Ultra.
If the 30xx line was actually at msrp then the only two that makes sense are the 3060ti and 12gb 3080. But since prices are still all over the place its down to how needy you are for a new gpu and what price are you willing to pay for it. If you hold out till the upcoming holiday sales when vendors are trying to dump their overstocks you should get some killer deals on both nvidia and amd gpu. Waiting for 40xx is pointless as the launch gpu will be their flagships and you know they will be priced far higher than current stock. Plus the tdp for these flagships will also mean new psu for any adopters even if you already have a decently high end unit. I just bought an evga 850w gold psu to drive my 3080 and it won't be enough for a 4080 when the rest of the systems load is taken into consideration.
guys i bought 3060ti and OCed it from 448/gbs to 576gb/s(maximum) bandtwith so +128GB/s . Core clock +180 memory clock from 14GHZ to 18ghz! its +30% more bandtwith and+ 20% total performance. I bought gainward ghost non oc version what has power limit possible to increase +5%. tested it in MSI kombustor under 100% load through 6-7h and no any artifacts no any throtles , problems. i paid for it 529eur. INvested more in solid powerful PSU 780w. Because next year am planning to buy 40xx. About 3060ti am shocked how this card can be pushed with overclocking!
I haven't had luck getting the founders editions from best buy. However I recently picked up a Gigabyte gaming OC 3070 from Newegg for 550. I can live with 50 bucks over MSRP for a 3rd party card. That's not much more than you would pay for the 3rd party version anyway. Seeing as how the cheapest 3060ti that I can find is 500, and a lot of them are still selling for more than what I paid for that 3070, I think I made a good choice.
@@razorbackxa20 there’s a bunch of them on Newegg, his gigabyte one was 600 but with a 50 dollar off code, currently its now a 20 dollar off code, but the 50 dollar will comeback, rn the 6800 from MSI on Newegg as well is 580 including the 20 dollars off code would be the better buy; I was able to snag a 3070 FE just last week, and its still available actually, initially wanted the 3060ti but that’s always sold out, just hang in there and wait it out for Best Buy to drop more
@@EstaDePiPi I would have picked up one of the founders editions, but best buy won't ship them. They are only selling for store pickup, and there isn't a best buy near me. They closed the one that was near me during the pandemic, so I had to get the 3rd party one from Newegg.
Problem of the 3060Ti up to 3070Ti is the VRAM buffer. 8GB is getting small for 2022 if you're looking to keep the card midterm. That's why the 6700XT and 6800 is the real "future-proofing" cards right now.
8GB is small for 4K... it's not small for 99% of the games out there... if you're playing in 1080p or 1440p, 8GB is just fine for all but the craziest of scenarios.
8GB is going to be enough for a very long time if you are not obsessed on enabling graphical setting that you can't really see like ultra vs high or even medium.
People shouldn't be buying GPUs at current bloated prices, there's buttload of 3000 series left in stock since the death of crypto mining. Those GPUs will fall under their MSRP as 4000 series launch approaches and will fall even further beyond when it actually launches (Don't forget the flood of the second hand as well). The stock is huge, just wait a tad bit more guys.
Until the price goes down on both Nvidia cards, the AMD RX6700xt is the best bang for your buck right now in this general performance class. With FSR 2.0 and the improvements AMD has made to the AMF encoder, the only reason to even pay more for Nvidia is the better performance in Raytracing. Unless you are using it for rendering something that is not gaming related and optimized for CUDA cores, etc.
Would it be better to buy a cheap low end 3070 or a higher end 3060ti? For example a dual fan zotac 3070 vs the asus tuf or strix 3060ti? It seems the premium brand tax equates to enough to equal the price of the cheaper cards of the model above
The more expensive cards basically just equal a better cooler or fancy rgb... performance of the cards are almost always identical to other cards of the same SKU... in other words a super expensive 3060Ti is still going to be beat by a low-end MSRP 3070.
@@wolfshanze5980 I don't recall if it was this channel or another but I was watching a tier ranking of cards and which to buy based on everything including the power delivery on the card. Scared me into thinking lower end cards suck haha
@@JackulaHD To be perfectly honest, there's really nothing wrong with getting a low-end cooler on a base MSRP GPU. There's only two cases where you wouldn't want to do that 1) if there's actually a fault in the cooler which is pointed out by a tech site [this is really rare, but happens once a blue moon], 2) you want to overclock the living sh!t out of the GPU once you put it in your system... you're going to want the best cooler you can get if you're going to overclock. If all you're going to do is slap it in your system and leave it at default, it's going to run just fine and within a FPS or two of the fanciest most expensive GPU of the same SKU. Most people that crank out the cash for the expensive coolers are doing it because they either want to overclock the sh!t out of it, or they just want that fancy looking GPU with RGB to "pimp their rig"... but performance wise, it's not really going to be much different from the low-end stock cooler if they're not overclocking it.
Hello I have found a good ROG-STRIX-RTX3080-O10G-GAMING, just want ask if the 820 euro price for this used card is a good deal, yes it's used for 7 month mining but I ask a lot of question + he will provide with benchmark video how its handling temps+ performance but he told the card was not clock and was running stock speed + temps was middle 70-80 GPU RAM temps, think it's not a bad deal, just wanted to express what you guys think. Would love to hear any comments.
Hey Daniel. So about the rtx 40 series is it worth buying it as soon as it comes out? Will it decrease it price a couple of months after release of increase and if so what's the reason.
@@ironcristian3183 no it just wont decrease soon after it comes out so no point in waiting unless you can wait for a while edit: msrp wont go up but it might be scalped too early for me to say if it scalpers will be a problem or not
@@ironcristian3183 btw performance per watt will still probably be higher than this gen. its just that the wattage is still being increased for even more performance on top of that.
Gpu cpu news video, best value gpu comparison video, gpu showdown ultimate comparison video. I do enjoy these videos, but it feels too formulaic and it might start to get stale. Keep the current videos, but maybe try to create some other original content too. Just my opinion peace.
I always look for the lowest price on these things. Best bang for the buck. However, last time just for grins and chuckles I looked for the highest price ones. It almost seems like you can pay as much as you want for these cards. Like the 3060 TI at $2500. Just crazy. I like your videos thanks.
Even in a sane economy you'd never really get a 25% boost for 25% more cost in the same generation/brand...there is a premium on performance as you move into higher end cards
11:03 yes,it's so easy to just buy higher tier card. Just go out and buy 3080Ti over 3060Ti/3070 son. "Remember boi,if you play below Max settings,you shouldn't be playing at all." .
I wanna build my first pc and i wanna play games at 1440p resolution i am a little confused even after watching this vid can u help me out about which one should i get a 3070 or a 3060 ti and also i am gonna do some productivity related work like 3d modeling, animation, vfx so which one would be better and one more thing should i wait for the next gen card as i am not building the pc this year i will be building it next year
Hi Owen, I am planning on building budget 4k pc. So i am pairing i5 12400f with rtx 3080. Is it a good choice considering at 4k games are mostly gpu dependent?
I guess reviewers use ultra settings for testing to get apples to apples comparison even with higher end gpus. But I hope you guys also include a "high" settings or turning off like the "sky/cloud volume" just to show the potential buyers what they are going to get at the actual settings most people use who buy mid range cards.
that’s subjective tbh. for some people high without looks better and for others ultra with looks better. my advice is to try both and decide yourself instead of believing one is better because someone else thinks it looks better
Daniel or anyone reading this, do you know if nividia manufactures one chip per family and category and then disables cuda cores and functions so they can segment the offer? Or every chip has its particular design? example with 3090 and 3080 models and their submodels which are all Ampere 102....every of those chip has a different design or is just the same design that they manufacte in a batch and then capp for market segmentation purposes? Thanks
nvidia stance on that matter can differ from time to time. but currently other than LHR (which is not present with 3090/3090Ti) i did not see any other function being disabled on lower tier card for segmentation reason.
which produce less noise? why the 3070 is cooler here , i watched some comparisons with same cpu with the 3070 being hotter . If 60$ is the difference for me should i just pick the 3070?
@@anoopp9616 1440p is just good, and in games like battle royals where distance clarity matters (like apex legends) it's easier to see. Additionally, everything is sharper for work like google docs or internet browsing which is about 40% of my daily routine. It's harder to drive but It's better than 1080p while not being as expensive and ridiculous as 4k. Right now 4k to me is diminishing returns. I plan to get a 3070 for around 60fps at 1440p max settings or if I ever decide to go competitive and I need the high refresh rates I would just turn down the settings to medium (some could be set at max like shadows in some games like rainbow 6 sieges can help with locating an opponent. So far a 3070 is just powerful enough so I could skip the 4000 cards and upgrade to a 5000. I am wrong please correct me because I would like more advice before I spend my summer holiday money on a GPU.
good choice Pal yu can easly OC it by 30% what i did ofc since day 1XD through 6h test under 100%load : 0 artifacts, 0 freezes, 0 throttles. pure honey:P
Just got a 3060 ti thought about paying a little more the 3070. Not planning on going to 1440 any time soon so just went with the 3060 ti and gonna pair it with a better a cpu 5800x see a lot of 5600 in there
I am using a 3060Ti and 5800x with 32 gig 3200 MHZ ram. Great setup for 1080. Crank up everything. You’ll have no problems. I went from a 3700x to a 5800x and it was a big jump for the 3060Ti. Picked up as much as 20 FPS in some games.
❤️ good videos. DLSS And so many more options got added in Forza and also flight simulator. I'm thinking of buying a new laptop. Currently using acer predator 300 2060 10750h 32gb ram. But just not getting to play both my fav games. So now question. 3070 3070 ti 3080? Budget wise i think 3070 works. Even if i try to buy from usa i may pay 1650$ for a 3080 which looks expensive. Forget India prices . 😜 So thinking 3070 is what I can try from India only. Or maybe usa. (12th gen. If 11th gen i will still save. So that's another parameter to save 11th vs 12th on 3070 3070 tu or 3080) ur thoughts? For the final thoughts. Why can't. I get AMD GPU ? Hmm since these sometime comes cheaper due to less people buying AMD.
Moral of the story if I wait another month or two and prices keep dropping the way they are on the 6000 series cards I'll be able to get my RX6800/XT with water block cheaper than the equivalent Nvidia card...
With my 3060 ti I play Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440p on high with dlss quality and ray tracing turned off and get about 100 fps. Ultra tanks performance too much and doesn't really look any better than high.
@@artursobkow2680 I wasn't going to say anything, but since you brought up understanding english, your english is pretty bad to the point I had to guess what you meant. And I assumed you meant I could play at 40 fps with ray tracing turned on, which is about right if you don't take advantage of dlss or ray tracing settings. At 1440p on high settings with dlss on performance and with all ray tracing settings on except for lighting you get 80 fps. And yes, dlss on performance at 1440p looks good 95% of the time. The other 5%, it's obvious in lines but if you can ignore that it has good performance with ray tracing turned on.
@@pf100andahalf The Fak ? No, my English is fine - the only reason you did not get it, is either you did not know what "spare" means or you just cant properly read. And get the hell out with High and Mighty attitude.. its Cringe.
So my country current price rn are 3070 $518 3060 ti $466 The difference around $52 and 3060 ti are far above msrp, so should i buy 3070 instead? Considering it is close to msrp, is it worth? Or not? Note: that's the total price including shipping fees, and discount i got
@@hellotcautiver It really depends where you live. I assure you that the prices for GPUs will fall down significantly in later September, so it's worth waiting.
if u are a litle bit tight with money 3060 ti or some amd counterpart like 6600 xt or 6700 xt. 1080p will last long time, 1440p, if u fine lowering settings a little bit, every game will also be fine for a while
Played through CP2077 on 3060ti with full RT @ 1080p with DLSS quality. The only issue was character reflections that I noticed, looks fantastic otherwise, the way RT lighting knits the entire scene together is truly amazing.
It just "connects" everything together... Doesn't it? Like non RT ultra yes you can say woah pretty damn gorgeous but it is as if something is missing... It's as if the world is not grounded... And as soon as you start moving and looking around this illusion just cracks and breaks but then when you enable full RT... Everything just "molds" together into this seamless, coherent visual presentation. My mind after seeing RT enabled relaxes up and absorbs all the pretty details while with RT off... It just starts freaking more and more how unrealistic it is (not the graphics itself but the lighting model). Just seeing glowing objects that are otherwise suppose to be shaded... Or reflections that are missing due to objects not being in screen space.... Shadows that are not stretched properly and at correct angle... It just all one by one starts freaking out my mind regardless of how well put and detailed it actually is... I just can't wait to purchase RTX 4080 and start experiencing full on ray tracing. So far PS5 has been great helping me experience the beginnings of what ray tracing is and how valuable it is even though many will scream "ray tracing is a gimmick and is not needed" I myself very well find it that games should be more and more ray tracing focused and start phasing out raster based. Just like metro exodus enhanced does.
@@spookyskellyskeleton609 i would drop it to 1440p for ray tracing. These GPUs struggle with normal 4k 60 gaming. You still have to sacrifcie something ltt alone ray tracing.
Only native res. Other is noticable blurry, AMD fsr looks promising solid quality on high and very high and yes bought first for 4k HDR Ray Tracing playing RTX 3060ti sold it after 4 days played almost 40 days on RTX 3070 and yes not for 4k native too when all is on almost ultra high (no compromise with my time and money) so after that stop with RTX 3080 can do native, for me who playing only third person single player storydriven adventures and RPGs anything above 30fps but ultra high the best possible visuals is enough and yes native is only real quality for those with good healthy eye sight
i think is not about the eye sight is more about the size of the screen you have and at which distance you play i mean i have healthy eye sight and i use dlss quality on 1080p on my 24" monitor and i play almost 3ft away from it and i dont notice the visual change unless i play really close to it i can notice but i have a friend with a 4K 55" TV and even at dlss quality i can see a little bit of blur at the distant objects of the games
that's because of the difference in cooler being use. but the card with more power will always going to release more heat even if it's cooler perform much better than the card with lower power consumption.
And here i watched this video when somehow the difference between 3060ti and 3070 is only 50 bucks in my area lol. Going for 3070 as its runs much cooler too
Just upgraded my 1070 to 3060 ti for 1440p gameplay. I'm happy with my decision. Grabbed it at $480 while the 3700 was at $600. The 10ish% improvement isn't worth the extra buck imo.
Same Im with 1070 and consider going with the 3060ti .. since im playing on low settings anyways , i'd be more than happy with high set. + price diff fs .
I guess it depends on the region, but I'm in the southern US & I got my Zotac 3060ti OC edition (non-GDDR6X) for $340 new/open box. But it was through a local seller, not a retail outlet or website. It's also an LHR model which is why I'm guessing it was priced below MSRP but either way I don't care for crypto mining capability. I was just glad to finally get something way better than my 8gb RX 580.
@@couriersix2443 I almost went with ZOTAC first, it was under $400. But I decided to drop the extra $80 on the MSI card due to overclockability. I've had this card for a few weeks now and I am EXTREMELY satisfied with the performance and results with 1440p. Max everything, great looks. No reason to go above that for 1440p especially if money is tight.
@@LedZeppelinPage yeah man, I completely understand. Bigger heatsink + triple fan cards are easier to cool which gives more OC headroom. I've managed to get a decent OC out of this card (even as a dual fan + single 8-pin model) but it gets kinda loud hahahaha. I've had it stable at 110% PL, 2160Mhz + 7500Mhz for the mem (haven't tried going past +250) and it's freakin stellar. Last time I did a purely synthetic bench on that profile it was damn near within striking distance of a stock 3070 FE. Even if it does sound like a 787 prepping to launch off the runway 😂 that's basically been the only downside to me cheating out honestly, but temps peaked at 70c and never really budged until after it finished and dropped the clocks back down to idle. All of it was done with Afterburner & a custom (yet somewhat aggressive) fan curve. While the fan noise is unpleasant to most, I don't really notice it when I've got my headset/ANC earbuds on. Looking back though, the triple fan RGB Strix model would've been more to my liking. But like you said, more performance for less money is always a W. The fact that I'm able to fully utilize the card with a $150 CPU (R5 5600) that was a drop in replacement on my existing mobo is just incredible. This time a year ago would've cost well over $1k for the same performance, but all said and done I've probably spent like $650-680 (mix of new/open box stuff, local sales at Micro Center, and a few used parts via local marketplace)
So after a month, yall still prefer the 3060ti? I'm on the same boat right now
I looooove the way the videos are put together. No sponsorship crap, straight to the point, and the way you put your videos into chapters by cutting them up into parts makes it so easy for me to find exactly what I'm looking for without wasting 20 minutes looking for the part I'm interested in. Doing god's work Daniel!
They are human and have to make a living somehow, so I don't mind the 'sponsorship crap'.
No sponsorship crap💀
No sponsorship sorry I just want him to do hours of work for a 20 min video for free god you're entitlement is sad dude saves you hours of research and you can't handle a 2 min ad
@@bradlowther8425 Bro woke up and chose the Twitter mindset 💀
@@unknown45754 I think he is right.
Thank you so much for doing this video. From what I've been able to observe, the 3070 is much better with frame timing than the 3060 ti. I noticed on several occasions that the 3060 ti's perception of smoothness was much choppier than the 3070's simply due to the difference in frame timing, even at high fps.
This video has convinced me to spend the extra couple bucks to avoid the choppier framerate of the cheaper card.
Good video. Another thing about the 3060ti is there are a few models with only a single 8pin connection (I have 2 of them).
Great little card at/near MRSP.
The amount of effort you put into your videos is amazing
love my 3060ti. Cyberpunk at max settings, max rtx, and the quality dlss gets me above 55 fps which is what i locked the game to. otherwise, its inbetween 55 and probably around 75. great experience with a controller
Having used the 3070 primary at 4k, I have found that it can handle most games at 4k with optimized settings (usually High) and DLSS Quality. It’s certainly not as good as the 3080 and above, but it’s value is unmatched by almost anything else.
I still wouldn’t recommend the 3070 for 4k. As you said you had to adjust setting and needed DLSS just to reach playable FPS. And there’s the problem, if you have to lower settings nowadays what will be in 2 years+? You also have to mention the relatively low VRAM of just 8GB. 8GB aren’t even the best for 1440p so problems are just gonna get worse at 4k. So in long term the value gets pretty bad at 4k. But anyways still a good 1440p card.
So a 3060ti is more than enough for 2k gaming good to know since my 2060 super struggles a bit with more recent games. Ray Tracing would be nice to have but i made it 20 years without it and i think a few more years without it wont kill me ^^ btw the price difference here between a 3060ti and a 3070 is a whooping 150-200€ so yeah i dont think thats worth it for 15% more performance
After years of deliberating I decided on the 3060 Ti with DLSS and min RT. Appreciate your videos and analysis
I am also going for it. It will be my biggest upgrade from gtx 660 to rtx 3060ti.
@@Starv1x72same bro lol
Gtx 660->vega 7->rtx 3050->rtx 3060ti
I would love to see a video from you about buying used graphics cards - I know it is a lot more difficult to get average prices, etc. but even a video where you discuss what you would be looking for in terms of a discount, by card, would be interesting. That, and you could discuss the pros/cons of buying used!
I've bought a lot of used components for my pc, netting me an approx. 25% discount on my entire PC and I have never had any issues.
I will never buy a used graphics card. Someone is selling it for a reason, IMO. Just my opinion though.
@@meersffej1 if you know how to clean a GPU and replace a fan, second hand can be a very good deal.
@@meersffej1 Of course they are selling it for a reason but, in most cases, the reason is nothing to be worried about. Typically, the reason is that they have upgraded to a better card themselves or, as is common now, the card was mined on and the cryptocurrency crash means it is no longer cost effective to mine on the card. LTT did a video last year showing that there is no performance degradation when mining a card and I recently bought a 3070 mined for two years and it performs as well as my friend's 3070 in games.
@@meersffej1 most people are selling cards because they have upgraded to something better. i bought my gtx 1080 when the rtx 3070 launched and the dude just sold it obviously because he got a 3070.
@@meersffej1 I have bought a lot of used gpus and no issues with them is almost like buying a cpu, they don't die that often, but other components like motherboards that's a different story and I agree people sell them for a reason
hey Owen! I'd like to thank you for helping me build my first pc! watching your vids helped a ton while looking for a gpu:D
What gpu have gone for?
@@dwayne1859 I picked up a amd rx6600, sadly though I've come across some limitations like playing vr and rendering so I'm most likely going to upgrade to a 30 series later this year
I managed to grab a 3070 Ti for €760 off Amazon. A great GPU upgrade from my 1660 Super.👍
That's what I have I got a 1660 super but I'm looking for a 3070 or a 3060TI
"managed"???
3070's have been avaliable for 700-750€ for 2 months now, that's a bad deal. Should get them for 500-550€ now, or 50-100€ more if new and good model.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j Well I got it brand new, its the ASUS TUF OC model. There is nowhere that sells them for less than €700. Some places here still charge close to €1000
@Jeji prices in other parts of the world aren't the same as in the US though. Some places still charge over €1000.
It's only a stop gap until I can get a RTX 4090 or RX 7900 XT.
Do you plan on testing the cards mainly with the out of the box sort of configuration? The 3060ti looks to be running a fair bit hotter out of the box for a couple of these tests which makes me think the 3070 if given a more aggressive power plan could run away from the smaller chip.
@@tegridyplaysgames undervolt it a little and you can reduce the temperatures by 5c while keeping the same performance.
I'm impressed with the performance of the 3060 Ti, but I'm happy I chose the 3070. That extra performance really comes in handy, and it makes playing in 4k much more enjoyable, despite not being the absolute best experience. But hey, it's the best you can get unless you're willing to break the bank with an 3080.
I overclocked my 3060 ti and now it matches a 3070.
@@Laurentus Overclocked 3070
I don't understand why you want to play at 4k. 1080p and 1440p look perfect. Going 4k isn't worth the performance impact at all.
i know what you say. The 3070 is a superior product in all departments. I just waited 5 months and i got it for 300$ second hand. It's a big upgrade from the gtx1080
@@Laurentus Overclock a 3070 and it may match a 3070 ti
Amazing video! Is it possible you could do something similar to this, but with the 3070 and the 3070 ti? Im very interested in seeing how the memory differences affect frametime.
At that point you might as well just get a 3080 for the performance
It's even smaller the difference from the rtx 3070 to the 3070ti u can see similar results with a 1000mhz overclock to the memory and 150mhz to the clock speed u will get almost the same performance in most games
I have a gamerock rtx 3070 ti, which i got for £750 a few months back since it was practically the same price as the rtx 3070, and I'd say that I am pretty happy with it, it gives around 10 percent better performance more than the rtx 3070, which doesn't seem like much, but after an overclock of 170 to the core and 1ghz to the memory it then gives me another ten percent which makes the difference between the two very noticeable and it is now under 10 percent slower than the rtx 3080, which at the time that I got it was a pretty good deal especially since the rtx 3080 was around £1000 at the time.
@@SiLva_SuRfa in a 12 game average in 1440p its 8 percent faster than the 3070 and on 4k it's 10 percent faster so it will get you from 119 fps and with a heavy overclock 124 average fps on 1440p to 128 and with a very heavy overclock maybe to 133 fps and a stock rtx 3080 would get stock 151 fps so even best case scenario u are still 18 fps away from a 3080 in performance and only 9 fps away from a overclocked 3070
@@SiLva_SuRfa correction its more like 6%
I bought the 3060TI and play games at 4k on it. I know I need to turn down the settings but as long as it still looks good I don't really care. Waiting for next-gen cards until I upgrade to a high-end card. Tried this generation and I couldn't get one at a reasonable price.
Turning down graphics from ultra to high is perfectly fine if it means getting over the hurdle of a stable minimum of 60 fps considering how little difference anyone can really see in-game and this is even more effective the higher the resolution. Personally I have a 3060 ti and play at 1440p with a 165 Hz g-sync monitor and turning down some details and effects to achieve above 120fps in "graphical" games is worth more than having barely better looking leaves or shadows 👍
it is absolutely capable of 4k. most games just flick dlss onto quality and you'll have over 60fps with high or ultra in demanding games. only worry is how long will it be able to do 4k because of the 8gb vram.
@AVLRECORDS depends what settings ur running. I've got a 3080 gaming laptop which is roughly equivalent to the 3060ti desktop card in performance and I am more than satisfied with the performance when I am home and connect it to my 1440p 32 inch 144hz panel. No I don't get 144fps as I tend to aim for 60fps instead and turn on Ray tracing or something but it's definitely not slow haha.
awesome video i recommend adding a competitive game to the benchmarks as well bc many might want to build their pc for that purpose
they'll both do fine lol
I don't need ultra settings I have been playing at low-med settings my entire life, and now when I finally bought the 3060 Ti I am gonna stay at those graphics settings to just enjoy the higher framerate and if possible I will even turn up the graphics settings somewhere where I get above 144 fps at 1440p
So with the 3060 ti u get no matter what in the most games over 120fps if u have like medium settings right?
@@NoName-yf7bx at 1440p yes, I have very high settings in gta5 with 2x msaa and I get around 110-130 fps
@@NoName-yf7bx best bang to buck card if you can get it for below 400€, also I would recommend buying 3 fan version, bcs 2 fan version tends to heat up to 80°C and it decreases the lifespan of the gpu
Great video thanks. Exactly what I'm looking for as I'm considering both cards. At 1080p I'm leaning toward the 3060 TI.
Fantastic review and commentary, exactly what I needed! Thank you.
I have 1500 saved up to build a computer in july 2023. Should I buy a rtx 3080 now for around 700 or wait for the newer 4000's RTX to come out. Afraid the prices will go up next year when I will build one. Want 1440p 144hz and mostly for VR gaming.
Who needs the maximum settings. Reduce a few things, which no one can see and the 3060TI is as fast as the 3070 with ultra settings.
Great Video! Personally, I'm waiting for the next gen GPUs, either Nvidia or AMD. On a side note, I never play games on ultra settings, my choice of settings are usually anything above medium or with minimums above 60.
yep, same price are finally coming way down and the New Cards will come in and be available for the actual Correct non BS Bitcoin miner scalpers prices!
Yup, I let GeForce experience handle that and I always play at 120fps with a 3060
Managed to get a 3060ti at MSRP today, can't wait for it to arrive
How ? i am looking at 3060ti, 3070 and 6700xt at good deals.
@@karthiksk3437 Nvidia store, I'm in the UK though. They have lots of stock, normally up for a few days. Make sure to keep an eye on the official store, you won't find brand new ones any cheaper
@@liquiddnb1305 Thanks but i thought it was in US
@@liquiddnb1305 same! Just got mine this morning :)
have you tried overclock the RTX 3060TI to see if it can match the performance of RTX 3070? some 3060TI have unlocked voltage it can goes up to 250w.
There's always "that guy" who does the old "just overclock the slower card to make it as fast as the stock faster card"
Why does every video like this have "that guy" in the comments, and why does that guy never realize the faster card can be overclocked too?!?
@@wolfshanze5980 I think we can all agree that the 3060 ti is pretty close to the 3070.
@@pf100andahalf I think we can all agree that a 3060Ti is close to a 3070 and a 3070 is close to a 3070Ti and a 3070Ti is close to a 3080 and a 3080 is close to a 3080Ti and a 3080Ti is close to a 3090 and a 3090 is close to a 3090Ti... what's your point? Every card is a little faster than the lower SKU... not a secret... do you know what else isn't a secret?
I think we can all agree EVERY GPU CAN BE OVERCLOCKED. Don't be that guy.
@@wolfshanze5980 TBH 3060TI, 3070TI is a lot closer to 3070 since they're using the same die. while 3080 is a different animal you cannot overclock 3070TI to match it, same with 3060 to 3060 TI becuse they're using different die. about overclock is very different too from card to card. some 3060TI can only go so far maybe 210w and other can goes as high as 260w. the same can be said for 3070. the lower end of 3070 is basically the same as higher end 3060ti that's how close they are with the perfornance. i dont get all the salt here.
@@wolfshanze5980 I had to pick that one guy that don't know which cards are close to each other.
Was going to buy a 4060ti for my 1st gaming pc but am lucky enough to have a very generous mate who gave me his old 3060ti for free. Paired it with an i5 12400, its a nice upgrade over my xbox series s. Very happy with 3060ti.
I've been running the "ti" cards since the 660 ti. It's always been a great bang for the buck card
Got a 3060 ti OC edition recently at near MSRP. Though it is not marketed as a 4k card, I am quite surprised at the performance it gives for 2160p. VRAM is the limiting factor here and I ain't a ray tracing worshipper.
✅1080p - Just EZ for this card. RT is something that "might" require DLSS (like some areas in Spiderman), otherwise, it's smooth AF.
🟡1440p/4k DLSS - go blindly with 3060ti if you want constant 60-75 FPS. If you have a higher refresh rate monitor, you CAN go with 3070 but make sure you are not bottlenecked by any other hardware (Like CPU, even disk speed and RAM).
❌4k native - Well, go with something with a higher VRAM cap because 8GB just won't do (in most games). DLSS might help you in some cases but you'll be at the mercy of gaming industry. (I pray day and night for FSR 2.0 to be available to each and every game FFS). You might get away with 3070 Ti at this time but you won't be future proof. Sorry and it hurts to say but 3080 and higher is the range you are looking for. 💰
Just think through what you need and check if you are not bottlenecked by anything else. And most importantly, remember that -
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While you are exploring Night City, Takemura is still waiting at Tom's diner!!!! 🤣
Just got the 3060ti. PC parts here in the Philippines are ridiculously expensive. This card is excellent for 1440p high refresh rate gaming. It could also do 4k 60 fps, but don't put everything on Ultra.
If the 30xx line was actually at msrp then the only two that makes sense are the 3060ti and 12gb 3080. But since prices are still all over the place its down to how needy you are for a new gpu and what price are you willing to pay for it. If you hold out till the upcoming holiday sales when vendors are trying to dump their overstocks you should get some killer deals on both nvidia and amd gpu. Waiting for 40xx is pointless as the launch gpu will be their flagships and you know they will be priced far higher than current stock. Plus the tdp for these flagships will also mean new psu for any adopters even if you already have a decently high end unit. I just bought an evga 850w gold psu to drive my 3080 and it won't be enough for a 4080 when the rest of the systems load is taken into consideration.
Because of when it came out I'm pretty sure the MSRP of the 3080 12 gig is like $1199
guys i bought 3060ti and OCed it from 448/gbs to 576gb/s(maximum) bandtwith so +128GB/s . Core clock +180 memory clock from 14GHZ to 18ghz! its +30% more bandtwith and+ 20% total performance. I bought gainward ghost non oc version what has power limit possible to increase +5%. tested it in MSI kombustor under 100% load through 6-7h and no any artifacts no any throtles , problems. i paid for it 529eur. INvested more in solid powerful PSU 780w. Because next year am planning to buy 40xx. About 3060ti am shocked how this card can be pushed with overclocking!
I haven't had luck getting the founders editions from best buy. However I recently picked up a Gigabyte gaming OC 3070 from Newegg for 550. I can live with 50 bucks over MSRP for a 3rd party card. That's not much more than you would pay for the 3rd party version anyway. Seeing as how the cheapest 3060ti that I can find is 500, and a lot of them are still selling for more than what I paid for that 3070, I think I made a good choice.
How on earth did u get a 3070 at 550 .... U must be really lucky man
@@razorbackxa20 there’s a bunch of them on Newegg, his gigabyte one was 600 but with a 50 dollar off code, currently its now a 20 dollar off code, but the 50 dollar will comeback, rn the 6800 from MSI on Newegg as well is 580 including the 20 dollars off code would be the better buy; I was able to snag a 3070 FE just last week, and its still available actually, initially wanted the 3060ti but that’s always sold out, just hang in there and wait it out for Best Buy to drop more
@@EstaDePiPi I would have picked up one of the founders editions, but best buy won't ship them. They are only selling for store pickup, and there isn't a best buy near me. They closed the one that was near me during the pandemic, so I had to get the 3rd party one from Newegg.
At least where I live there's an ~18% sales tax on best buy orders, so you might've only paid another $10.
Will I get smoothness and no stuttering if I were to use gigabyte 3070 playing battlefield 5 on 1080p high settings?
Problem of the 3060Ti up to 3070Ti is the VRAM buffer. 8GB is getting small for 2022 if you're looking to keep the card midterm. That's why the 6700XT and 6800 is the real "future-proofing" cards right now.
yep those ultra textures will swallow up 8GB of VRAM easily
Agree. This is why I went with a 2080ti second hand instead of those cards, they don't have enough memory for 4k max textures in all games.
8GB is small for 4K... it's not small for 99% of the games out there... if you're playing in 1080p or 1440p, 8GB is just fine for all but the craziest of scenarios.
8GB is going to be enough for a very long time if you are not obsessed on enabling graphical setting that you can't really see like ultra vs high or even medium.
It's a budget card. If you're gaming at 1080p - 1440p 8GB will be enough for a very long time.
Thank you so much this video realy helped me
my final word: 3060ti wins with its price, performance and +30% about more bandwidth when OCed 448GB/s to 576GB/s 14GHZ to 18GHZ
20% difference to me is within tolerance of "almost the same".
Think it's around 10% mostly
around 15 fps average in 1080p and like 10 fps in 1440p, i wouldnt oc if its 60 fps average at high or ultra
I’d say more around 10% on average
20% is a lot, considering that between generations we usually see a 33% improvement.
realistically it's less
People shouldn't be buying GPUs at current bloated prices, there's buttload of 3000 series left in stock since the death of crypto mining. Those GPUs will fall under their MSRP as 4000 series launch approaches and will fall even further beyond when it actually launches (Don't forget the flood of the second hand as well). The stock is huge, just wait a tad bit more guys.
Is there a much of a difference between 3060 Ti brands?
Thanks, exactly what i was searching for.
Until the price goes down on both Nvidia cards, the AMD RX6700xt is the best bang for your buck right now in this general performance class. With FSR 2.0 and the improvements AMD has made to the AMF encoder, the only reason to even pay more for Nvidia is the better performance in Raytracing. Unless you are using it for rendering something that is not gaming related and optimized for CUDA cores, etc.
Great video as always Dani
Would it be better to buy a cheap low end 3070 or a higher end 3060ti? For example a dual fan zotac 3070 vs the asus tuf or strix 3060ti? It seems the premium brand tax equates to enough to equal the price of the cheaper cards of the model above
The more expensive cards basically just equal a better cooler or fancy rgb... performance of the cards are almost always identical to other cards of the same SKU... in other words a super expensive 3060Ti is still going to be beat by a low-end MSRP 3070.
@@wolfshanze5980 I don't recall if it was this channel or another but I was watching a tier ranking of cards and which to buy based on everything including the power delivery on the card. Scared me into thinking lower end cards suck haha
@@JackulaHD To be perfectly honest, there's really nothing wrong with getting a low-end cooler on a base MSRP GPU. There's only two cases where you wouldn't want to do that
1) if there's actually a fault in the cooler which is pointed out by a tech site [this is really rare, but happens once a blue moon],
2) you want to overclock the living sh!t out of the GPU once you put it in your system... you're going to want the best cooler you can get if you're going to overclock.
If all you're going to do is slap it in your system and leave it at default, it's going to run just fine and within a FPS or two of the fanciest most expensive GPU of the same SKU. Most people that crank out the cash for the expensive coolers are doing it because they either want to overclock the sh!t out of it, or they just want that fancy looking GPU with RGB to "pimp their rig"... but performance wise, it's not really going to be much different from the low-end stock cooler if they're not overclocking it.
Hello I have found a good ROG-STRIX-RTX3080-O10G-GAMING, just want ask if the 820 euro price for this used card is a good deal, yes it's used for 7 month mining but I ask a lot of question + he will provide with benchmark video how its handling temps+ performance but he told the card was not clock and was running stock speed + temps was middle 70-80 GPU RAM temps, think it's not a bad deal, just wanted to express what you guys think. Would love to hear any comments.
Hey Daniel. So about the rtx 40 series is it worth buying it as soon as it comes out? Will it decrease it price a couple of months after release of increase and if so what's the reason.
buy as soon as it comes out
edit: waiting will technically probably drop the price but not just waiting a few months probably wait maybe 8 months?
Ah ok so it will increase in price soon after it comes out?
@@BaterWottleDog because I've heard complaints about the wattage and lovelace coming
@@ironcristian3183 no it just wont decrease soon after it comes out so no point in waiting unless you can wait for a while
edit: msrp wont go up but it might be scalped too early for me to say if it scalpers will be a problem or not
@@ironcristian3183 btw performance per watt will still probably be higher than this gen. its just that the wattage is still being increased for even more performance on top of that.
in my opinion, 3060 ti is high end GPU for 1080p, while 3070 low end GPU for 1440p.
Gpu cpu news video, best value gpu comparison video, gpu showdown ultimate comparison video. I do enjoy these videos, but it feels too formulaic and it might start to get stale. Keep the current videos, but maybe try to create some other original content too. Just my opinion peace.
Now i can get a 3070 for £300 and a 3060 ti for near the same price, so the 3070 has better value currently.
I always look for the lowest price on these things. Best bang for the buck. However, last time just for grins and chuckles I looked for the highest price ones. It almost seems like you can pay as much as you want for these cards. Like the 3060 TI at $2500. Just crazy. I like your videos thanks.
I've seen 3060 for 4000$ not even joking
@@peadee2774 they are criminal resellers. they should be taken off the market
Thank you! Literally just bought this through Best Buy thanks to that tip! Much appreciated!!!!!!!!!
Even in a sane economy you'd never really get a 25% boost for 25% more cost in the same generation/brand...there is a premium on performance as you move into higher end cards
11:03 yes,it's so easy to just buy higher tier card.
Just go out and buy 3080Ti over 3060Ti/3070 son.
"Remember boi,if you play below Max settings,you shouldn't be playing at all." .
I wanna build my first pc and i wanna play games at 1440p resolution i am a little confused even after watching this vid can u help me out about which one should i get a 3070 or a 3060 ti and also i am gonna do some productivity related work like 3d modeling, animation, vfx so which one would be better and one more thing should i wait for the next gen card as i am not building the pc this year i will be building it next year
Will you be doing a video on RDR2 with FSR 2.0 mod? If so, i’m very much looking forward to it.
Hi Owen, I am planning on building budget 4k pc. So i am pairing i5 12400f with rtx 3080. Is it a good choice considering at 4k games are mostly gpu dependent?
That does not sound like a budget 4K setup to me. The 3080 should be able to run all games at/above 4K, 60fps, RTX off.
@@UWG3 i meant budget in sense lowest 4k build possible. I could add a higher cpu, good aio and other parts which increase the price significantly.
If u want native 4k gaming for the lowest budget possible then the Rtx 3070 should get you 60+fps at 4k in most games
I guess reviewers use ultra settings for testing to get apples to apples comparison even with higher end gpus. But I hope you guys also include a "high" settings or turning off like the "sky/cloud volume" just to show the potential buyers what they are going to get at the actual settings most people use who buy mid range cards.
I just let GeForce experience choose the best settings and I have never seen much difference between 3060, 3060 Ti and 3070
what was the problem with the 3060ti? why had those frames, the 3070 was so smooth but the 3060ti was like an old card....
Wait what did you say? Best Buy’s release msrp on Thursdays????? Online it in store?!? I need to know was about to buy a Msi one for 470$
Does the game look better at Ultra with DLSS or High without DLSS?
that’s subjective tbh. for some people high without looks better and for others ultra with looks better. my advice is to try both and decide yourself instead of believing one is better because someone else thinks it looks better
the perfoemce difference is simply not worth the extra money in my opinion
Daniel or anyone reading this, do you know if nividia manufactures one chip per family and category and then disables cuda cores and functions so they can segment the offer? Or every chip has its particular design? example with 3090 and 3080 models and their submodels which are all Ampere 102....every of those chip has a different design or is just the same design that they manufacte in a batch and then capp for market segmentation purposes? Thanks
nvidia stance on that matter can differ from time to time. but currently other than LHR (which is not present with 3090/3090Ti) i did not see any other function being disabled on lower tier card for segmentation reason.
Too late, I have bought 3060 Ti yesterday, comes on Tuesday :D
Although I have seen 100 videos on this topic
Just tell me one thing!! Which one should i buy.. Rtx 3060 ti or 3070?
which produce less noise? why the 3070 is cooler here , i watched some comparisons with same cpu with the 3070 being hotter . If 60$ is the difference for me should i just pick the 3070?
What's better in terms of future proofing 3070 or 6700xt on 1080p
probably 6700xt cause it has 12gigs of vram instead of just 8
if your main goal is to future proof you might aswell go for 1440p
@@rawmeatenjoyer how come going higher resolution helps in future proofing,?
They’ll both be fine. Dealers choice
@@anoopp9616 1440p is just good, and in games like battle royals where distance clarity matters (like apex legends) it's easier to see. Additionally, everything is sharper for work like google docs or internet browsing which is about 40% of my daily routine. It's harder to drive but It's better than 1080p while not being as expensive and ridiculous as 4k. Right now 4k to me is diminishing returns. I plan to get a 3070 for around 60fps at 1440p max settings or if I ever decide to go competitive and I need the high refresh rates I would just turn down the settings to medium (some could be set at max like shadows in some games like rainbow 6 sieges can help with locating an opponent. So far a 3070 is just powerful enough so I could skip the 4000 cards and upgrade to a 5000. I am wrong please correct me because I would like more advice before I spend my summer holiday money on a GPU.
I'm liking 2080ti at this price point if you can find one in good condition
I got my 3060Ti with 400€ so pretty much at MSRP and I game mostly 1080p so I think I am good for some years... I got so far with GTX1080 so yeah....
Detailed review. Would be interesting to see the 3070 vs 3070Ti difference!
picking up my founders 3070 and 3070ti tomorrow for both my PCs.
I just got my 3060 ti from nvidia. If you're in the UK they have both these cards in stock.
good choice Pal yu can easly OC it by 30% what i did ofc since day 1XD through 6h test under 100%load : 0 artifacts, 0 freezes, 0 throttles. pure honey:P
"The ultimate comparison". Yet no Photoshop, no video editing software, no 3D-rendering.
with rt frametime looks a little bit unstable but very playable
personally i dont care beyond 30 fps seems like a 3060 ti is plenty for my needs thanks for confirming its not a big diference
Could you include COD: Warzone in your testing?
You can enable Rebar with profile inspector, but FH5 runs at 15FPS with it on so.. yeahhhh... ;)
Do you have the actual cards?
I showed the cards I am using in the video...
i think he only got 3060 from nvidia, rest of amd and nvida gpus he bought
@@pasha715 I bought all my GPUs except my rx6600 was a review sample.
@@danielowentech i remembered wrong then
Good info. I'm thinking about grabbing a 3070 and handing down my 2060s to my nephew. i see a 3070 at $499 right now on amazon.
Just got a 3060 ti thought about paying a little more the 3070. Not planning on going to 1440 any time soon so just went with the 3060 ti and gonna pair it with a better a cpu 5800x see a lot of 5600 in there
I am using a 3060Ti and 5800x with 32 gig 3200 MHZ ram. Great setup for 1080. Crank up everything. You’ll have no problems. I went from a 3700x to a 5800x and it was a big jump for the 3060Ti. Picked up as much as 20 FPS in some games.
Now this was not boring. If you get out of recommending that rx6700 is a good for bucks product, you do good vids. Nice
❤️ good videos. DLSS And so many more options got added in Forza and also flight simulator. I'm thinking of buying a new laptop. Currently using acer predator 300 2060 10750h 32gb ram. But just not getting to play both my fav games. So now question. 3070 3070 ti 3080? Budget wise i think 3070 works. Even if i try to buy from usa i may pay 1650$ for a 3080 which looks expensive. Forget India prices . 😜 So thinking 3070 is what I can try from India only. Or maybe usa. (12th gen. If 11th gen i will still save. So that's another parameter to save 11th vs 12th on 3070 3070 tu or 3080) ur thoughts?
For the final thoughts. Why can't. I get AMD GPU ? Hmm since these sometime comes cheaper due to less people buying AMD.
Moral of the story if I wait another month or two and prices keep dropping the way they are on the 6000 series cards I'll be able to get my RX6800/XT with water block cheaper than the equivalent Nvidia card...
Well 3070 and 3060 Ti are now within £30 of each other same brand MSI. No Brainer get the 3070, unless your case is too small.
Can you do a dying light 2 3070 full benchmark?
I kinda want a comparison of similar performance RX cards vs these, including the price difference in the current market.
I've compared both of these to the 6700xt in similar videos recently
@@danielowentech hey daniel, is it worth upgrading from GTX 1080 to RTX 3060 Ti ? my monitor runs (1080p with 240hz)
@@lowlyeh4198 if your doing 1080p gaming then its not really worth it
@@gustav0242 Meaning , its better to go for 1440p monitor ?
amd Ryzen 5 pro 4650g has a bottleneck with rtx 3060 or no
plz
if you already have a 4650g then keep it, if youre buying a new cpu, get a 12600k or 12700k
i have that apu but i need an upgrade
@@ahmedelkhamesy2496 would an upgrade to a 12700k, 12600k, or 5900x be nice? yes
will the 4650g bottleneck a 3060? not too much
btw if you do go for intel 12th gen just get a ddr4 board ddr5 isnt worth it
My ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 Ti OC Edition 8GB GDDR6 Boosts up to 1980 Mhz.
Yo daniel, you accidentally wrote 3080 in the description.
Lol thanks
I like 2k and will stay 2k for a long time. So the 3060ti was fine for me. Anything over 90fps is fine.
With my 3060 ti I play Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440p on high with dlss quality and ray tracing turned off and get about 100 fps. Ultra tanks performance too much and doesn't really look any better than high.
I think you can go RT medium with that 40 FPS in spare 😅
@@artursobkow2680 Why would I want to play at 40 fps?
@@pf100andahalf 100 FPS no rtx.. - 60 FPS with Rtx = 40fps spare - like were do you PPL learn to understand English..
@@artursobkow2680 I wasn't going to say anything, but since you brought up understanding english, your english is pretty bad to the point I had to guess what you meant. And I assumed you meant I could play at 40 fps with ray tracing turned on, which is about right if you don't take advantage of dlss or ray tracing settings. At 1440p on high settings with dlss on performance and with all ray tracing settings on except for lighting you get 80 fps. And yes, dlss on performance at 1440p looks good 95% of the time. The other 5%, it's obvious in lines but if you can ignore that it has good performance with ray tracing turned on.
@@pf100andahalf The Fak ? No, my English is fine - the only reason you did not get it, is either you did not know what "spare" means or you just cant properly read. And get the hell out with High and Mighty attitude.. its Cringe.
Check out The Quarry, I believe that is a UE 5 game. And as it's basically a movie in points it should be easy to benchmark!
So my country current price rn are
3070 $518
3060 ti $466
The difference around $52 and 3060 ti are far above msrp, so should i buy 3070 instead? Considering it is close to msrp, is it worth? Or not?
Note: that's the total price including shipping fees, and discount i got
Hold a bit, they will come down in price this September
@@mendax7125 man where are you finding 3070s for that low? I keep seeing them for $600
@@hellotcautiver It really depends where you live. I assure you that the prices for GPUs will fall down significantly in later September, so it's worth waiting.
@@mendax7125 I'll wait then bro, thanks. I live in the United States by the way
If Nvidia did start whitelisting, there would less reasons to buy more expensive cards. Just a thought.
Polls defective video memory by Hynix puts an end to 3060Ti. And this is was minimum card for QHD, so...
Tbh whatever is cheaper is my bang for my buck.
Also love the content Mr. Owen
This is the way. There’s a $500 XFX MERC 319 6750xt on B&H right now
if u are a litle bit tight with money 3060 ti or some amd counterpart like 6600 xt or 6700 xt. 1080p will last long time, 1440p, if u fine lowering settings a little bit, every game will also be fine for a while
Played through CP2077 on 3060ti with full RT @ 1080p with DLSS quality. The only issue was character reflections that I noticed, looks fantastic otherwise, the way RT lighting knits the entire scene together is truly amazing.
It just "connects" everything together... Doesn't it? Like non RT ultra yes you can say woah pretty damn gorgeous but it is as if something is missing... It's as if the world is not grounded... And as soon as you start moving and looking around this illusion just cracks and breaks but then when you enable full RT... Everything just "molds" together into this seamless, coherent visual presentation.
My mind after seeing RT enabled relaxes up and absorbs all the pretty details while with RT off... It just starts freaking more and more how unrealistic it is (not the graphics itself but the lighting model). Just seeing glowing objects that are otherwise suppose to be shaded... Or reflections that are missing due to objects not being in screen space.... Shadows that are not stretched properly and at correct angle... It just all one by one starts freaking out my mind regardless of how well put and detailed it actually is...
I just can't wait to purchase RTX 4080 and start experiencing full on ray tracing. So far PS5 has been great helping me experience the beginnings of what ray tracing is and how valuable it is even though many will scream "ray tracing is a gimmick and is not needed" I myself very well find it that games should be more and more ray tracing focused and start phasing out raster based. Just like metro exodus enhanced does.
@@sermerlin1 and when you hit 4k ray tracing the fps dips below 60 and it's a mess so no
@@spookyskellyskeleton609 i would drop it to 1440p for ray tracing.
These GPUs struggle with normal 4k 60 gaming. You still have to sacrifcie something ltt alone ray tracing.
@@sermerlin1 I would never drop res for ray tracing. 4k >>>> ray traced 1440p
@@spookyskellyskeleton609 well I would. RT 1080/1440 >> 4k resolution.
Hey was just able to get a 3070 ti from best buy so thank you.
Got a great used tuf 3070 for 460 euros! Very happy
Only native res. Other is noticable blurry, AMD fsr looks promising solid quality on high and very high and yes bought first for 4k HDR Ray Tracing playing RTX 3060ti sold it after 4 days played almost 40 days on RTX 3070 and yes not for 4k native too when all is on almost ultra high (no compromise with my time and money) so after that stop with RTX 3080 can do native, for me who playing only third person single player storydriven adventures and RPGs anything above 30fps but ultra high the best possible visuals is enough and yes native is only real quality for those with good healthy eye sight
i think is not about the eye sight is more about the size of the screen you have and at which distance you play i mean i have healthy eye sight and i use dlss quality on 1080p on my 24" monitor and i play almost 3ft away from it and i dont notice the visual change unless i play really close to it i can notice but i have a friend with a 4K 55" TV and even at dlss quality i can see a little bit of blur at the distant objects of the games
Interesting to see the 3060ti temps to be higher than the 3070
that's because of the difference in cooler being use. but the card with more power will always going to release more heat even if it's cooler perform much better than the card with lower power consumption.
And here i watched this video when somehow the difference between 3060ti and 3070 is only 50 bucks in my area lol. Going for 3070 as its runs much cooler too