After replacing the carburetor, spark plug, and air filter, I figured she would fire right up. To my chagrin, I pulled and pulled, and not a thing happened. Then I saw your video and saw that little spring which I forgot to reattach. After that, she roared back to life. Just a small adjustment can make all the difference. Thanks a ton.
I bought this exact mower today for $5. Missing the air cleaner and most of the springs. They have the choke zip tied. I’ll get it restored and rebuilt. This video gave me a heads up
looks like the Air Vane Spring is not attached at the correct location near the lever screw see time 1:51 a hook just to the right it is currently in wrong attachment point. which could be the problem.If you have not already figured that out.
After buying a coil & trying everything else, I find your video, exactly the problem I was having, all the Briggs I've had before on Craftsman mowers didn't have this air vane like this, thanks I needed a little help.
Even with all your fumbling in the video it was a successful tutorial. I thank you. I had just put a carb on and the idle wasn't spot on anymore. Took that cover off and that lever was stuck in the wrong position. So cheers to you. Today nothing was going right with other things and this made it all ok. Thx pal. Have a blessed day. 🥂
Was having problems, difficulty to start, weak running sudden stop. Just check the choke bar discovered was stuck on two of the bolts below it. Straighten it and when first start it worked bad but after a minute or two improved and since cut an acre of lawn without any problems. Would have never been able to figure it out without Your Video's help. Thank You Very Much.
Thanks for the tutorial. I bought my mower used and ever since I've had it it won't turn back on after it's hot. I replaced the spark plug and ignition coil, but still had the same issue. Finally I can't access your video and when I looked inside my mower the thermostat am was totally crushed, maybe after Simone pot back on the shroud. Needless to say this video was a huge help!
Thanks for an informative video. I've got the same issue-a mower that starts and runs fine but if you shut it down to take a break it won't restart until it is cold. Now I know the inner workings I can tackle it and see what's up.
I use springs on my b&g engine. My mower has no throttle on the handle, and I use another 2 springs for it to work. It’s a mess if you look at it but it gets the job done.
I'd love a simple video of what bolts go where as far as removing tune up items (shroud, air filter/carb/breather box) and putting it back together. Yeah, I have one in pieces with missing bolts. 😅
Check Jeff’s small engine videos. He brings one back from the dead& he tells you what size of bolts, he never addressed the thermostat position issue. Also has a good carb rebuild video. Good luck!
I think I may see what the problem is with the choke arm spring tension. The carburetor (outside) end of the spring should be hooked into the notch on the "finger" with the little arrow point at the end of the choke arm. This should increase the spring tension to allow the choke arm to function properly. Good video, though.
I was thinking the same thing cause I took a picture of mine before swapping out the carburetor and the spring is in that notch you mentioned and not where it’s displayed in the video so that could be it.
who thought this would be a good idea, Got one in my backyard looks brand new wont start what a piece of garbage. Ill take the old mowers from 80 s and 90 s anyday. Great video thanks for showing me what to never, ever, ever ever to buy. But good video!!
It is a dreadful design. I have these given to me since the owners do not want to wait 30 minutes for the thermostat (mounted on exhaust manifold!) to cool down. The Honda solution is far superior with the wax filled cylinder that heats and expands to engage the choke. I'm still working on a method for a manual choke, but until then, I removed the red plastic shroud so I can at see SEE the position of the choke before I try to start it. I absolutely REFUSE the replace the thermostat since it works, and I set the thermostat arm based on the designer specs, AND tensioned that spring (the one you said falls off), so now the delay is down to 10 minutes...but that is still too long. STAY TUNED! 7/1/2019 - UPDATE: I tied a string to the choke arm and ran it up next to the pull cord. Its wacky, but it works. North Central Florida
@@lzh3131 You are very welcome Sir! We still live on that 9 acre lot, but we have not yet cut grass for the year. Minimal rain, and chickens like to run around in the little grass that exists. If I was King, everybody would have chickens. 5.31.2024
What would happen if the plastic choke arm is on the opposite side of that metal heat vane that sticks up behind the muffler? I own a lawnmower with that same engine and the choke arm is in between the heat vane and the muffler and the flywheel. There was a small bungee cord holding the rocker arm for the choke open.
@@johnsmythe6134 ... starting out in life on small engine troubleshooting is how many 30 year mechanics began ... take it easy on the lad ... he'll get there 👍
@@johnsmythe6134 OK rock star, make your own video if you are so brilliant instead of putting down someone who is 1) trying and learning 2) attempting to help others 3) from the many comments here pointing people in a positive direction to keep another item out of the landfill for a bit.
@@jeffdhartman I have a lot more important things to get done besides making kid's videos. I don't even know how that comment got attributed to Me, but whoever typed it was a little bit on the shitty side to whoever posted whatever it was. I did not even see the video. I have respect for kids who legitimately try to get things up and running. Been fixing everything from mowers and outboards to copters and aircraft and just got to the 7/8 done mark on a '49 Stinson, going to fly it this summer. Sorry if there was any misunderstanding. Have a good one. Peace to all. -JS
The tension on the Air Vane spring is engineered to hold just the right amount of resistance when cold and hot. hooking this spring where it was designed to be hooked will aid you in your efforts to smooth out your engine idle without having to experiment. I noticed in your video you had this Air Vane spring hooked up where it was not supposed to be. First things first. Remember theses B&S springs are engineered with just the right amount of tension and resistance in mind. Always use OEM parts.
I had one given to me because it wouldn't run. I got it running great until it heats up. It is a ridiculous design. I guess now I have to put money into it and buy a themostat for the lame auto choke. @thosoz3431
hi the little red pump thing that i have to push 3X to get a little gas to start my briggs doesnt get suction, or isnt working. when i push it i use to get resistance when the gas moved , is there something i can do to get gas in so it will start?
Yes. You can either spray some starting fluid or a mist of gas into the intake or replace the primer bulb. I have a video to upload of replacing it on a weedeater but i think it would be better to search for a video of your Briggs primer bulb replacement.
*DO YOU KNOW; your AIR VANE SPRING IS ON THE WRONG TAB ? After watching MANY vids., it is supposed to be on the little tab 1 inch to the right of the anchor bolt head--there is kind of a triangle around the tab/earlet. **I ALSO LOOKED AT TORO diagramS online and the factory has the spring attaching to the that tab; yours is lower and hooked to something else out in front of the pivot base. JFYI ! 'NOT 1 of those guys that rag on Ytube Postings OR a know it all ; I wish I had $$$ for all the time I have spent/mispent on trying to get such a delicate (&dumb) spring design to function; A $6 CABLE WOULD HAVE WORKED FINE ON THE CHOKE MR. TORO !
After replacing the carburetor, spark plug, and air filter, I figured she would fire right up. To my chagrin, I pulled and pulled, and not a thing happened. Then I saw your video and saw that little spring which I forgot to reattach. After that, she roared back to life. Just a small adjustment can make all the difference. Thanks a ton.
Exactly what I was searching for regarding the air vane. Thank you for posting with the important visuals. Very helpful.
I bought this exact mower today for $5. Missing the air cleaner and most of the springs. They have the choke zip tied. I’ll get it restored and rebuilt. This video gave me a heads up
looks like the Air Vane Spring is not attached at the correct location near the lever screw see time 1:51 a hook just to the right it is currently in wrong attachment point. which could be the problem.If you have not already figured that out.
After buying a coil & trying everything else, I find your video, exactly the problem I was having, all the Briggs I've had before on Craftsman mowers didn't have this air vane like this, thanks I needed a little help.
Even with all your fumbling in the video it was a successful tutorial. I thank you. I had just put a carb on and the idle wasn't spot on anymore. Took that cover off and that lever was stuck in the wrong position. So cheers to you. Today nothing was going right with other things and this made it all ok. Thx pal. Have a blessed day. 🥂
Great video. I was just about to give up on my mower until I found your video. Mower now works perfect.
Was having problems, difficulty to start, weak running sudden stop. Just check the choke bar discovered was stuck on two of the bolts below it. Straighten it and when first start it worked bad but after a minute or two improved and since cut an acre of lawn without any problems. Would have never been able to figure it out without Your Video's help. Thank You Very Much.
Thanks for the tutorial. I bought my mower used and ever since I've had it it won't turn back on after it's hot. I replaced the spark plug and ignition coil, but still had the same issue. Finally I can't access your video and when I looked inside my mower the thermostat am was totally crushed, maybe after Simone pot back on the shroud. Needless to say this video was a huge help!
Just got finished rebuilding carb and made a huge mistake putting everything back together thank you for your input very very helpful BossMAN
Thanks for an informative video. I've got the same issue-a mower that starts and runs fine but if you shut it down to take a break it won't restart until it is cold. Now I know the inner workings I can tackle it and see what's up.
Thank you for this video! I could not find another video that showed this issue!
I use springs on my b&g engine. My mower has no throttle on the handle, and I use another 2 springs for it to work. It’s a mess if you look at it but it gets the job done.
I had the exact issue and this video saved me hours! Thank you
I'd love a simple video of what bolts go where as far as removing tune up items (shroud, air filter/carb/breather box) and putting it back together.
Yeah, I have one in pieces with missing bolts. 😅
Check Jeff’s small engine videos. He brings one back from the dead& he tells you what size of bolts, he never addressed the thermostat position issue. Also has a good carb rebuild video. Good luck!
Thank you for the video. Detail was great and you answered my question.
You got the spring hooked on wrong on the carburetor side you got to put it on that little lip in the middle of it
I didn’t notice that the spring wasn’t on correct until I read your comment, good eye!👍
I think I may see what the problem is with the choke arm spring tension. The carburetor (outside) end of the spring should be hooked into the notch on the "finger" with the little arrow point at the end of the choke arm. This should increase the spring tension to allow the choke arm to function properly. Good video, though.
I was thinking the same thing cause I took a picture of mine before swapping out the carburetor and the spring is in that notch you mentioned and not where it’s displayed in the video so that could be it.
who thought this would be a good idea, Got one in my backyard looks brand new wont start what a piece of garbage. Ill take the old mowers from 80 s and 90 s anyday. Great video thanks for showing me what to never, ever, ever ever to buy. But good video!!
mine is surging i think because the spring is to loose or something.it doesnt idle high enough..errrr
Im smart enough to mention the air vane spring tab, but not smart enough to see it already mentioned 37 times, years old.
Even after your repair the vane spring is not connected in the correct place
It is a dreadful design. I have these given to me since the owners do not want to wait 30 minutes for the thermostat (mounted on exhaust manifold!) to cool down. The Honda solution is far superior with the wax filled cylinder that heats and expands to engage the choke.
I'm still working on a method for a manual choke, but until then, I removed the red plastic shroud so I can at see SEE the position
of the choke before I try to start it. I absolutely REFUSE the replace the thermostat since it works, and I set the thermostat arm based
on the designer specs, AND tensioned that spring (the one you said falls off), so now the delay is down to 10 minutes...but that is still too long.
STAY TUNED!
7/1/2019 - UPDATE: I tied a string to the choke arm and ran it up next to the pull cord.
Its wacky, but it works.
North Central Florida
I like how you found a solution. Mowing the lawn is one thing, the mower acting stupid will make you crazy! I might try this next! Thx
@@lzh3131 You are very welcome Sir!
We still live on that 9 acre lot, but we
have not yet cut grass for the year.
Minimal rain, and chickens like to
run around in the little grass that exists.
If I was King, everybody would have chickens.
5.31.2024
What would happen if the plastic choke arm is on the opposite side of that metal heat vane that sticks up behind the muffler? I own a lawnmower with that same engine and the choke arm is in between the heat vane and the muffler and the flywheel. There was a small bungee cord holding the rocker arm for the choke open.
You have your spring in the wrong place. There is a triangle tab with a notch cut into it. That is where your auto choke spring goes.
Yeah, that's the first thing I noticed watching.
Way to go Chris. I noticed that right off and cringed. This guy shouldn't be allowed near any tools. 50 yr. mechanic here.
@@johnsmythe6134 ... starting out in life on small engine troubleshooting is how many 30 year mechanics began ... take it easy on the lad ... he'll get there 👍
@@johnsmythe6134 OK rock star, make your own video if you are so brilliant instead of putting down someone who is 1) trying and learning 2) attempting to help others 3) from the many comments here pointing people in a positive direction to keep another item out of the landfill for a bit.
@@jeffdhartman I have a lot more important things to get done besides making kid's videos. I don't even know how that comment got attributed to Me, but whoever typed it was a little bit on the shitty side to whoever posted whatever it was. I did not even see the video. I have respect for kids who legitimately try to get things up and running. Been fixing everything from mowers and outboards to copters and aircraft and just got to the 7/8 done mark on a '49 Stinson, going to fly it this summer. Sorry if there was any misunderstanding. Have a good one. Peace to all. -JS
You need a side view of that piece, too see where it aligns...can't tell on that top view tho...cool vid.
El cu cuy 1340
The tension on the Air Vane spring is engineered to hold just the right amount of resistance when cold and hot. hooking this spring where it was designed to be hooked will aid you in your efforts to smooth out your engine idle without having to experiment. I noticed in your video you had this Air Vane spring hooked up where it was not supposed to be. First things first. Remember theses B&S springs are engineered with just the right amount of tension and resistance in mind. Always use OEM parts.
Or don't buy one of these incredibly bady designed engines. I wish I didn't have.
I had one given to me because it wouldn't run. I got it running great until it heats up. It is a ridiculous design. I guess now I have to put money into it and buy a themostat for the lame auto choke. @thosoz3431
Thank you, this helps.
hi the little red pump thing that i have to push 3X to get a little gas to start my briggs doesnt get suction, or isnt working. when i push it i use to get resistance when the gas moved , is there something i can do to get gas in so it will start?
Yes. You can either spray some starting fluid or a mist of gas into the intake or replace the primer bulb. I have a video to upload of replacing it on a weedeater but i think it would be better to search for a video of your Briggs primer bulb replacement.
IT'S A AUTOMATIC START DON'T HAVE A PRIME BUBBLE ON IT.
From one of the other videos. Sometimes the gasket behind the filter leaks and u may need to place 2 gaskets to make a seal.
Thank you for your video it helped bro 😊
Would have been a great video if only you had the camera actually showing what you were talking about instead of the side of the muffler.
😮
*DO YOU KNOW; your AIR VANE SPRING IS ON THE WRONG TAB ? After watching MANY vids., it is supposed to be on the little tab 1 inch to the right of the anchor bolt head--there is kind of a triangle around the tab/earlet. **I ALSO LOOKED AT TORO diagramS online and the factory has the spring attaching to the that tab; yours is lower and hooked to something else out in front of the pivot base. JFYI ! 'NOT 1 of those guys that rag on Ytube Postings OR a know it all ; I wish I had $$$ for all the time I have spent/mispent on trying to get such a delicate (&dumb) spring design to function; A $6 CABLE WOULD HAVE WORKED FINE ON THE CHOKE MR. TORO !
What ?
"If I let it stall or if it stalls..."?
Um... when you let it stall and it does, that already IS it stalling.
Helpful. Thank you.
How about pull that plug wire while you have your feet under the mower?
In case the mower that fails to start automatically goes "Maximum overdrive!"
thanks for sharing
The most ridiculous set up ever. We need to go back to manual set up.
Need to overhaul 3.0 Briggs and stratosphere
Sounds like a great project! I'm planning on doing the same with this motor.
Do you even know what you’re trying to explain
Word of advise…….steel toe boots
People don’t people who don’t know exactly what you’re doing shouldn’t make videos it’s a waste of time for people to watch
total wast of time. find someone who knows what they are doing.
Make your own video rocket scientist.
What a waste of time.
You mean your comment?