That radiance safelane pull camp ward placement, is so disgusting and just unfair if you are playing dire side, it's a suicide mission to destroy that ward in the early game, i think valve should make it so wards can't be placed near trees or other objects, i'm a casual dota player and pos 4-5 player, it makes no sense i have to watch an pro talking about wards placements to compete against the tryhards.
The art of support - knew the timing for pull or helping line - stack creep when possible - help dennied your creep - create space for your line(basically you bait enemy and lure them to give your carry free xp, try not to die is the hardest part) - ward&deward is your only way to get gold - if you think you can secure kill, do it. Better than leave one opportunity wasted(if your carry blame you, just say "im sorry") - have map awarness and instant reaction for enemy ganking - priorities tp for helping line - dust&smoke is your job - dont expose yourself when war, you're enemy carry first target so stay invisible but stick with your team - building your team mental by saying wp,gj,also give them tip if you have extra bp - when you feel the enemy smoke gank sacrifice yourself by strolling yo save your carry(yeah its hurt) - try to not die to much Even after doing all those hardwork above,90%your team will blame you for your lack support, dont get rageout and keep calm, thats the beauty of support player
These are all luxury things bro, I'm a simple man. All I ask from my 4 , as a 3, is to not pick something useless like pudge 4 and fap around in the bushes waiting for the perfect hook : D
Nah. Support role is not as bad back then. People nowadays play support a lot and have it as a main role. Support is great because if you guys lost, It's not your fault. If you win, you are part of it. People also nowadays blatantly hate Carry and Mid Players. Carry = Win the game, you got carried, Lost the game, All your fault. Regarding responsibilities Offlane and Support are lenient. Mid is the second worse since it's more early game oriented and carry is definitely the worst. I only play Support (5 and 4 ever since I started). In my experience losing as a carry/mid feels twice as bad when losing as a support. Winning on the other hand feels way great as a mid/carry but i definitely got carried.
One ward I've been doin' pretty much every game and I've never had it dewarded from what I can remember is against enemy OFFLANE. You put it as close to their tower away from the river. You can see their lane and tower meaning if you loosing your lane you can see any tp ganks or sometimes if they are pulling the wave. If you are winning the lane you can spot TPs from anyone trying to defend the tier 1 and it's just a good overall ward if you can spare it, cus' sometimes there are more important wards depending on the game ofc
My frustration comes with supports that won't ward the high ground when we have the advantage because they are scared of the deward when it's clear that any support that comes to try and deward will get melted before they even get to place down a sentry. And the other frustration is cores not defending these wards and just watching a support go by. It makes no sense trying to hide a low ground ward when there is no way they can deward your high ground ward
as a carry, i go with the support when they are warding the hg, however if they're too pussy then i take the initiative to ward, nothing to lose with a 100 gold worth of wards
nothing to lose just buy ward with 100gold, because the support cant spend more money because they get ganged and need to buy glimer cape or , blink , even ghost scepter
Its because cores usually dont make use of the advantage the vision gives. High ground wards almost always get dewarded by enemy supports because cores play AWAY from it, instead of playing around it.
Problems isn't warding but self interests. The game is unable to provide any incentive/rewards on helping others and playing their roles perfectly to promote team play. Yes this is not an issue for teams participating in event however, in pubs its a different story.
You mean to tell me that Zeus or silencer 4 going full carry and taking away farm from real cores while not helping 5 with wards or playmaking is to our detriment?
Not about "warding" per se, but worht to mention waveblocking first wave on enemy safelane with a ward behind a tree or behind a tango by T2 tower. Lets your first offlane wave push into enemy tower and get killed instantly, bringing equilibrium just outside your T1 with second wave.
Its kinda situational really although for me i would lane but only if my carry has escape ability / stronger than the enemy / if i warded all possible gank routes / after i pulled the wave , dunno if people find this as a smart move tho
The Well: 2 Hard and 1 Medium neutral camps. Located below the Radiant Safe lane under T2 tower. Units here are granted Well Wishes buff: +1.5 Mana Regen The Mines: 2 Hard and 1 Medium neutral camps. Located above Dire Safe lane over T2 tower. Units here are granted Mighty Mines buff: +4 Health Regen
what kind of trainig mode is it ? I know only demo mode that has the same option menu on the left side, but with a different map, which is kind of only mid. anyone has an idea, how could I access this training mode ?
Dota should ban suports who made carry hard life ! a lot of them drag creps in enemy camps put wards in your camp ceeps, to not farm and its happend often
27:31 "It's like a moving objective for them," he says, as the biggest objective powerwalks across the screen XD
Came here to say that 😂
Best moment in the video but, Why was Roshan there?
Lmao
Classic roshan just taking a stroll through river
You know its a complete guide when its 30 min just talking about wards lul
Still very short 😆
A comprehensive ward guide could stretch to 3+ hours
Because it's a warding guide lol
That radiance safelane pull camp ward placement, is so disgusting and just unfair if you are playing dire side,
it's a suicide mission to destroy that ward in the early game, i think valve should make it so wards can't be placed near trees or other objects, i'm a casual dota player and pos 4-5 player, it makes no sense i have to watch an pro talking about wards placements to compete against the tryhards.
@@Zulay092 agree, that ward placement is too risky to deward. even if i took my carry with me, he could lose exp/gold from the wave.
The art of support
- knew the timing for pull or helping line
- stack creep when possible
- help dennied your creep
- create space for your line(basically you bait enemy and lure them to give your carry free xp, try not to die is the hardest part)
- ward&deward is your only way to get gold
- if you think you can secure kill, do it. Better than leave one opportunity wasted(if your carry blame you, just say "im sorry")
- have map awarness and instant reaction for enemy ganking
- priorities tp for helping line
- dust&smoke is your job
- dont expose yourself when war, you're enemy carry first target so stay invisible but stick with your team
- building your team mental by saying wp,gj,also give them tip if you have extra bp
- when you feel the enemy smoke gank sacrifice yourself by strolling yo save your carry(yeah its hurt)
- try to not die to much
Even after doing all those hardwork above,90%your team will blame you for your lack support, dont get rageout and keep calm, thats the beauty of support player
As support player I agree with this.
But still, Core in crusader and archon like dog sometimes.
Solo support player journey hahah
These are all luxury things bro, I'm a simple man. All I ask from my 4 , as a 3, is to not pick something useless like pudge 4 and fap around in the bushes waiting for the perfect hook : D
This just makes me feel like not playing support
@@21jarhonestly if you feeling it, just party in 2/3. Probably hit 5k easily but after divine it’s all about game senses
Nah. Support role is not as bad back then. People nowadays play support a lot and have it as a main role. Support is great because if you guys lost, It's not your fault. If you win, you are part of it. People also nowadays blatantly hate Carry and Mid Players.
Carry = Win the game, you got carried, Lost the game, All your fault.
Regarding responsibilities Offlane and Support are lenient. Mid is the second worse since it's more early game oriented and carry is definitely the worst.
I only play Support (5 and 4 ever since I started). In my experience losing as a carry/mid feels twice as bad when losing as a support. Winning on the other hand feels way great as a mid/carry but i definitely got carried.
I love this format of teaching! Thanks! Love BSJs content!
You know it's a complete warding guide when Roshan himself proves that he can sneak near you in midlane unchecked and unnoticed😂😂
great production this one ay! really nailed it fellas, congrats
One ward I've been doin' pretty much every game and I've never had it dewarded from what I can remember is against enemy OFFLANE.
You put it as close to their tower away from the river.
You can see their lane and tower meaning if you loosing your lane you can see any tp ganks or sometimes if they are pulling the wave.
If you are winning the lane you can spot TPs from anyone trying to defend the tier 1 and it's just a good overall ward if you can spare it, cus' sometimes there are more important wards depending on the game ofc
that's actually a pretty good advice, I'll give it a try.
Two favorite dota personalities in a video about supporting?!?! big W
what is he name?
damn with the right lightning BSJ looks freaking handsome
My frustration comes with supports that won't ward the high ground when we have the advantage because they are scared of the deward when it's clear that any support that comes to try and deward will get melted before they even get to place down a sentry. And the other frustration is cores not defending these wards and just watching a support go by. It makes no sense trying to hide a low ground ward when there is no way they can deward your high ground ward
as a carry, i go with the support when they are warding the hg, however if they're too pussy then i take the initiative to ward, nothing to lose with a 100 gold worth of wards
nothing to lose just buy ward with 100gold, because the support cant spend more money because they get ganged and need to buy glimer cape or , blink , even ghost scepter
Haven't played with a single carry that has ever come with me to ward...
@@loyalbrit1877 and they blame support when we want to put ward in enemy high ground the result got baited
Its because cores usually dont make use of the advantage the vision gives. High ground wards almost always get dewarded by enemy supports because cores play AWAY from it, instead of playing around it.
You should add that this is your last video, not sure how many people else are staying to the end.
Great work, watched all your video.
lool that clarity sound when bsj drank the water caught me off guard
Problems isn't warding but self interests. The game is unable to provide any incentive/rewards on helping others and playing their roles perfectly to promote team play. Yes this is not an issue for teams participating in event however, in pubs its a different story.
You mean to tell me that Zeus or silencer 4 going full carry and taking away farm from real cores while not helping 5 with wards or playmaking is to our detriment?
not helping team = loss, that should be enough of an incentive
you want a pet on your back for playing a ward? or do you want a sound played for your team, waht an awesome support you are? childish...
you skipped the part when your enemy have a gem ... what to do with your wards or when and how to place them ?? any support players suggestions
This is really good stuff. Thanks
I LOVE BSJ
The hell is with that cliff ward being visible from the low ground anyway, that's gotta be a bug, right?
I still enjoy your "How to be the better support" guide Tsunami 😂🤣
F***ing Rosh man 😂 my man wanted some screen time hahahahahahaha
lets go BSJ! whoop whoop!
it's very helpful, thank you
Bsj my goat 🐐!
Not about "warding" per se, but worht to mention waveblocking first wave on enemy safelane with a ward behind a tree or behind a tango by T2 tower.
Lets your first offlane wave push into enemy tower and get killed instantly, bringing equilibrium just outside your T1 with second wave.
But do you leave lane on 5?
It depends, you have to see your carry first
Its kinda situational really although for me i would lane but only if my carry has escape ability / stronger than the enemy / if i warded all possible gank routes / after i pulled the wave , dunno if people find this as a smart move tho
no way i just god a team liquid ad while watching team liquid
What buff are they referring to at 7:00? I'm lost on that one
The Well: 2 Hard and 1 Medium neutral camps. Located below the Radiant Safe lane under T2 tower. Units here are granted Well Wishes buff: +1.5 Mana Regen
The Mines: 2 Hard and 1 Medium neutral camps. Located above Dire Safe lane over T2 tower. Units here are granted Mighty Mines buff: +4 Health Regen
I had no idea that was a thing. Thanks a lot@@Element1860
Roshan is indeed a moving objective
WHAT!?!?!? You can see wards from low ground?!?!?!
thx BSJ :D
Amazing contentet! ty.
Thanks man
very helpful. Thanks.
damn i just love bsj
I enjoyed this so much, tyvm
archon me: 1:34 wait you can do that? lol
I didnt learn anything, these guys were too handsome and distracting!
🔥🔥🔥
1:21 Golden Ornitophter lowkey flex B)
In here we can see what this wild animal does when nobody is around
roshan just having evening walk
nice
0:59 does he is the blue dot on the map ?
what kind of trainig mode is it ?
I know only demo mode that has the same option menu on the left side, but with a different map, which is kind of only mid.
anyone has an idea, how could I access this training mode ?
Demo the map
Go to your terrain in your items and demo the terrain
Bro I'm smoking out RIGHT NOW.
what about a ward behind their barract if you use MK or NP?
Noob here. What does "blocking" the camp mean?
BSJ is so charismatic)
Hi Tsunami how can we use this ward map ?
BSJ looks a lot like Superboy from Titans tv series lol
does team liquid is the best team in the world ? i only learn from the best.
And then theirs me who just likes to rush aghs on Tree and light up the whole map 😏
👍
CARRIES buying their own OBS Ward... never at my rank!
As a pos 4 and 5 I know all these things and I m still Legend II.
Legend 1 and didn’t know a single thing
bro ure right, its like common for me but im still doing the wrong things again and again 💀
So u are a bad skill caster and lack game sense improve on ksill casting and gameplay if u have ward parts covered
Is that jesse from athlene x?
I love the suggestions but many of them seem impracticable in many games... at certain ranks...
Guy looks like Julien Smith
1:28 Is that not just a bug? Why does this even work?
Is Bsj buff or is the other guy skinny?!?!😮
Hero of the video is none other than Roshan😂
Bro wanna play together
Some herald stuff going on here 😂
2:10 ; but now 147 000 know where is the ward >
Am I level 99 at hexing or what buddy
ahhh, useless information that gonna feed me a cup of instant coffee
Ok I need a tutorial on just the lingo of wtf they talking about lol
As a hard support pudge, I love the large camp. Free creps
I bet your carry doesn't love a hard support Pudge.
27:33 KEKW
О вилат на курьере
warding hg with rubic and also maxed e 😂😂😂
bsj youve made it
jk u made it ages ago
Ekin Kollama neden dota oynuyor yahu...
So funny you just dont include the new camps warding spots. In a late carrys farming meta
Buy quelling to place better wards
Feel like a lumberjack
best ward 22:11
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It's a good guide but definetily not ultimate. There are so many nice ward spots that are not mentioned at all.
The best guide is the guide where you dont spoil your ward placement 😉😉
The best teacher is experience
LoL player be like: Does this even matter?????
Арсен Маркарян даже тут,капец!
9:23
Bah gawd i never thot BSJ gonna get so intelligent about this game , especially when he was such a crybaby 10 years bekk
Dota should ban suports who made carry hard life ! a lot of them drag creps in enemy camps put wards in your camp ceeps, to not farm and its happend often
there are better spots at the same area, find it.
dota2 is still beta, roshan knew it and say hello
Good information, well organised, but cringe script, especially for transitioning through topics and the SAP wannabe showoffs
What a waste of time. I could've spent this whole 30 minutes losing another game of dota instead
cool and easy to digest video! Thanks Brian promo code BSJ and Tsunami
blah blah blah old news, dont listen to carry talk about wards xd
Too basic place of warding, so much secret place for warding..
Thanks for the tip but please Kick M1CKE for TLs sake!
Lost to Spirit 2-1 for them to get eliminated, performed better than GG in that regard. So basically, wtf is wrong with you? xD
M1CKe is an absolute beast, on carry and mid
Yo noob BSJ wanna teach you something, interesting hahaha