Israel Defends the Rafah Offensive to the ICJ (int'l court of justice)

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  • Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
  • The ICJ (international court of justice) hearings on Israel's recent Rafah offensive have commenced and Israel presents their case for the offensive. and BIG NEWS - we get to talk about HAMAS TUNNELS again. LonerBox reviews their reasoning and also checks out a video by ‪@RyanMcBethProgramming‬ on justified/unjustified military tactics. Will the ICJ find this acceptable?
    Ryan McBeth's video is here: • Israeli Tank Vs Rafah ...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 137

  • @Neverwas_one
    @Neverwas_one Місяць тому +73

    Squirters is a term in common usage in a military. For example you attack a building and people come running out of the building, those are called squirters.

    • @ahaviahbessemer9844
      @ahaviahbessemer9844 Місяць тому +8

      No, I will absolutely not insert a sexual joke.

    • @coreyander286
      @coreyander286 Місяць тому +2

      I heard it from a channel "Syrmor", interviewing a US helicopter gunner Afghanistan veteran, something like "guy in vr talks about their worst day as soldier". He refers to them as "squirters", says something like, "if you see it happen, you just get why you call it that, it's just what it looks like".

    • @thatshadowguy1005
      @thatshadowguy1005 Місяць тому +1

      still feels like this is the absolute worst word they could have chosen for the concept

    • @MrBulldog855
      @MrBulldog855 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@thatshadowguy1005Squirter is a military term. It's supposed to be that way. It's part of the gallows humor that is pervasive with all military cultures.

    • @wztly7368
      @wztly7368 Місяць тому

      windowlicker pfp does not make it any better 😭😭

  • @backwardsbandit8094
    @backwardsbandit8094 Місяць тому +11

    The "Israel built the tunnels" misinfo might genuinely be a massive game of telephone gone wrong, which is unfortunately common with this conflict.
    What I first heard is that Israel built tunnels under Al Shifa to maximize the space efficiency of the hospital. The theory was that Hamas built off these tunnels and made their own. Some people were also saying that they were using the Israeli-built tunnels but this was less commonly said in my experience

    • @TimPortantno
      @TimPortantno Місяць тому +11

      Israel used to control the hospital and builds bomb-proof operating rooms in every hospital as a standard practice, which were referred to as "bunkers".

    • @matsab7930
      @matsab7930 24 дні тому +2

      @@TimPortantnoyeah. Unironically, Israel has built more bomb shelters in Gaza than Hamas…

  • @Condeycon
    @Condeycon Місяць тому +40

    When I was in the military we did call it “the LOAC” (low-ack) all the time.
    Also squirters are people fleeing a building, usually after a bombing or attack. I believe it can also refer to people fleeing a battlefield more broadly.
    You want to encourage the enemy to flee because they are easier to capture for interrogation and intelligence gathering and because routing an enemy is oftentimes more desirable than fighting them down to the final man.

    • @mgg7756
      @mgg7756 Місяць тому

      Gross. You should be ashamed for having participated in that. Hopefully one day you'll realize nothing you did was right.

  • @coreyander286
    @coreyander286 Місяць тому +6

    There's a channel "Syrmor" that has an interview with an Afghanistan helicopter gunner veteran, something like "guy in vr talks about their worst day as soldier". He refers to them as "squirters", and says something like, "if you see it happen, you just get why you call it that".

  • @marcwitter481
    @marcwitter481 Місяць тому +44

    Ryan Macbeth is a fairly objective source. Him and Preston Stewart both do fairly solid osint analysis

    • @richardarriaga6271
      @richardarriaga6271 Місяць тому +10

      He has a massive blind spot towards Israel. He thinks young people hating Zionism is a Chinese op from Tik Tol. He couldn't consider that violation of civil rights and ethnic cleansing at minimum is to be condemned and young people don't have a fawning relationship towards Israel. He didn't show anything towards why Tik Tok specifically was bad when all social media, including YT was easily exploited by foreign agents. I unsubbed for such blatant propaganda.

    • @hachemdjeffal6545
      @hachemdjeffal6545 Місяць тому +4

      Yeah…no

    • @RetractedandRedacted
      @RetractedandRedacted 25 днів тому +2

      ​@@richardarriaga6271He has massive blind spots towards Israel despite having videos calling out Israel? Makes sense

  • @compilationerrorontest493
    @compilationerrorontest493 Місяць тому +1

    FYI Nawaf Salam is Sunni. His cousin Tammam Salam was PM (a Sunni position), and there are sporadic calls for him to be PM every now and then.
    The wiki entry for his grandfather literally states he was President of al-Makassed, a Muslim charity organization.
    It wasn't (and still isn't) uncommon for Lebanese muslims to go to christian schools. It was well understood that the christians generally had better funding for their schools, and so the quality of teaching was better.

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 Місяць тому +67

    Israelis: Why are we held to such a high standard?
    The standard: The absolute bare minimum the law asks of you

    • @aaronsaada9878
      @aaronsaada9878 Місяць тому +8

      It's more that they're held to higher standards compared to Hamas

    • @erichardy32
      @erichardy32 Місяць тому +39

      ​@@aaronsaada9878 god forbid people expect more from a sovereign nation than from a terrorist organization right?

    • @cyropox8235
      @cyropox8235 Місяць тому +24

      ​@@erichardy32no. We should hold a terrorist government to the same standard as a democratic one, realize that they're not meeting the standard, then condemn them like any other nation who doesn't meet the standard. Palestine is recognized as a nation In the UN. If Hamas wants to be the government, it needs to act like it or get removed from power. One of the two

    • @bentrinker1937
      @bentrinker1937 Місяць тому

      Compared to other countries in the region they are lol to the north we have assadd gassing his own ppl to the south we have the gulf states that practice a quasi form of slavery yet nothing from the international community.

    • @j0j0dartiste21
      @j0j0dartiste21 Місяць тому +18

      ​@@cyropox8235ok, when do we get to condemn Israel and the IDF because we have spent the last 8 months condemning Hamas and the moment it's time to hold Israel accountable "why do you not condemn Hamas?"
      Also I'm pretty sure it ain't Hamas that is representing Palestine in the UN.

  • @matthewconnell6596
    @matthewconnell6596 Місяць тому

    Glad to see some Ryan Mcbeth in here, very good source for anything military.

  • @benjillionaire7948
    @benjillionaire7948 Місяць тому

    Squirter - bad guy running out of a house under fire

  • @IMicah94
    @IMicah94 Місяць тому +9

    When was this recorded? Interstitial music goes hard in the paint good job Olive.

    • @lonerboxlive
      @lonerboxlive  Місяць тому +3

      This is from just two days ago so it’s recent! Also thanks, - Olive

  • @papertroll1
    @papertroll1 Місяць тому +2

    algoboost

  • @SynaTek240
    @SynaTek240 Місяць тому +1

    If you listen to the tank rolling over the sign video, there's a lot of gunfire. So, in case it is in active combat then of course who cares about the sign, but also the soldier is saying something, a translation of that would probably be pretty insightful as to the motive of the rolling over lol, I can't believe that ryan didn't translate it

  • @jeremyking9094
    @jeremyking9094 Місяць тому +5

    Late Night Loners 🌙

  • @giftedtheos
    @giftedtheos Місяць тому +3

    Can you please do examination of war analyst John Spencer's interview on Sam Harris's podcast? I haven't found much of any interactions with his arguments on the war on Gaza

    • @mgg7756
      @mgg7756 Місяць тому

      You need LB to watch videos for you? No wonder his little grift works, you guys will swallow anything, including genocide denial which is pretty gross. Do yourself a favor and try to develop critical thinking skills of your own, ditch these shameless hacks.

  • @yaaraamozig4862
    @yaaraamozig4862 Місяць тому +3

    Thank you
    It is so refreshing and rare to hear verified and unbiased information

    • @mgg7756
      @mgg7756 Місяць тому +3

      This channel is nothing but nonstop genocide denial

    • @papertroll1
      @papertroll1 Місяць тому

      @@mgg7756 hahahah this comment is nothing but nuance and facts denial

    • @savaok255
      @savaok255 22 дні тому

      ​@@papertroll1his actual takes were quite good though

    • @papertroll1
      @papertroll1 22 дні тому

      @@savaok255 Can't see his comment now, dunno why. And i think it was not about take, but how he presented it and how he presented Loner. But if i dont remember correctly or am wrong, fuk it, mb then

  • @LimeyRedneck
    @LimeyRedneck Місяць тому

    🤠 💜

  • @2460-1
    @2460-1 Місяць тому +8

    Your commentary has become insufferable to watch wtf. You're soying out over people who pay you money to respond. Moreover, the meaning behind the criticism of IDF attacks on Al Shifa was the "muuh command centeerrr."

    • @mgg7756
      @mgg7756 Місяць тому +6

      LB is probably getting paid for doing this. It's just too on the nose

    • @2460-1
      @2460-1 Місяць тому +1

      @@mgg7756 huh?

    • @mgg7756
      @mgg7756 Місяць тому +3

      @@2460-1 this hardcore pro Israel position, genocide denial included, not looking organic and honest to me.

    • @richardarriaga6271
      @richardarriaga6271 Місяць тому

      This thread is cursed

    • @2460-1
      @2460-1 Місяць тому

      @@richardarriaga6271 Look the first one said something a little weird. His complaints aren't associated with mine.

  • @ignatiushazzard
    @ignatiushazzard Місяць тому +3

    3 PragerU ads this video

    • @garrettmetting6938
      @garrettmetting6938 Місяць тому

      Ads target you the user based in watch host its not based on the information in the video or the channel

    • @ignatiushazzard
      @ignatiushazzard Місяць тому

      @@garrettmetting6938 I know. I was kidding.
      Though for mostly watching leftist stuff u see afkn ton of prageru stuff

  • @bushcraftallday
    @bushcraftallday Місяць тому +12

    intro was sick

  • @matthiasknutzen6061
    @matthiasknutzen6061 Місяць тому +2

  • @Dhwofjwlfkwldkfkw
    @Dhwofjwlfkwldkfkw Місяць тому +1

    I wanna like but it's on the funny number

  • @MrSomethingred
    @MrSomethingred Місяць тому +8

    I really wish Israels first instinct isnt always to lie, then lie again before finally conceeding to the truth.
    I feel like there would've been less pushback if everyone was honest about the scale of the hospital base

    • @mgg7756
      @mgg7756 Місяць тому +1

      Israel is built on lies. What you're asking for is impossible

    • @richardarriaga6271
      @richardarriaga6271 Місяць тому

      But if you destroy the only hospital and cut off all aid, you are the evil one regardless if there was a base there. Israel's actions only make sense if they want all Palestinians gone.

    • @jasonmillsom2981
      @jasonmillsom2981 Місяць тому

      I think there still would've been pushback, imagine Israel from the outset said we want to kill as many citizens as possible over saving hostages, it became clear ages ago, that the Israeli government intentions were never to save the hostages

  • @smeminem1258
    @smeminem1258 Місяць тому

    "the "i heart Gaza" sign was Khamas" the IDF probably"

  • @matthiasknutzen6061
    @matthiasknutzen6061 Місяць тому +1

    Why was my comment removed??

    • @lonerboxlive
      @lonerboxlive  Місяць тому +10

      We don’t remove any comments - it could have been auto flagged by YT

    • @matthiasknutzen6061
      @matthiasknutzen6061 Місяць тому

      @@lonerboxlive ok

  • @yingyangman11
    @yingyangman11 Місяць тому +1

    While i agree mostly with Loner's characterization of the Hamas complex, i do think it's important to note the difference in what Israel displayed with the multiple levels and the other rooms, like the barrel room, that seemed excessive in the initial animation.

    • @dzed5579
      @dzed5579 Місяць тому +3

      True, but Israel is in a position where no matter what they say, people will say they're lying, so I don't think they care if they exaggerate an animation of a Hamas command center a bit.

    • @mgg7756
      @mgg7756 Місяць тому +5

      ​​@@dzed5579weirdest defense of the IDF I've seen in some time.
      It's ok if they lie, because people will say they lie.
      Ok dude, you alright? Need a glass of water, going for a walk maybe?

    • @mgg7756
      @mgg7756 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@dzed5579also, where's the command center? It's not an exaggeration if it doesn't exist. That's just a lie

    • @dzed5579
      @dzed5579 Місяць тому

      @mgg7756 when did I say I support the IDF and defend their actions, even the bad ones? I'm saying it makes sense from their perspective to lie. And I think it's clear enough with how the media and people on social media have reacted to the conflict. No matter what Israel does, they will get blamed because a decent portion of the population genuinely thinks Israel is committing a genocide, so there is nothing good they could do. Which is why Israel probably thinks they shouldn't care and do what they want. It's not good. But, I can't blame them for thinking that way.

    • @mgg7756
      @mgg7756 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@dzed5579oh you think there's no genocide going on? Well I'm not surprised, I know it's the default position here. Genocide denial is pretty gross though.

  • @valipunctro
    @valipunctro Місяць тому +8

    When Israel objects to the standards they are held to,they are not comparing themselves to Hamas,but the US. I think.

  • @valipunctro
    @valipunctro Місяць тому +9

    You should watch Sam Harris' last podcast,it's on the topic of the IDF's conduct, with a urban warfare expert. They have favorable views as you might expect. But I am very interested in your reaction to it.

    • @matthiasknutzen6061
      @matthiasknutzen6061 Місяць тому +6

      Do they talk about 'where's daddy'? Wouldn't have bet Sam Harris thinking such a high collateral to be acceptable

    • @mgg7756
      @mgg7756 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@matthiasknutzen6061Sam Harris has always been pro Israel, and anti Muslim. Maybe he's not a total psychopath like Ben Shapiro or Jordan Peterson, but he's on the same side on things.

    • @hachemdjeffal6545
      @hachemdjeffal6545 Місяць тому +1

      @@matthiasknutzen6061think again