jup, thats how the pros do it. A big router with a profile bit (kinda like dado blades but for routers). Auto feed the boards and that "profile" then only needs to get sliced into finished pieces. way less cutting!
I make all my own frames have been for 6 years running around 40 hives. One thing I do different is I don't cut that grove in the bottom or the top. You don't need it. Just cut the side bar's a little shorter . And the bottom bar put it on the inside of the side bars . I use 1 1/4 crown staples one down from the top bar each side and one in from the side bars on the bottom bar. For a total of 4 staples. And I glue every thing. Saves a lot of time and work. And am really cheap so I buy my wood from the Amish plane it down. But I get it for 45 cents a board foot. Never had a frame pull apart if u glue them.
I like your idea on not needing the grooves. I am a believer in gluing frames as well. It adds so much strength and have heard the only reason not to glue is to pull them apart easier to replace broken pieces - to which I would say just build more frames! I am a hoarder of wood, so I keep a lot of scrap lumber throughout the year and use it in the spring for all I need!
The groves are only needed if you use plastic foundation. If you use wax foundation, no grooves are needed, but you need to put the top wire within 1 cm (-5/12") of the top, or the foundation over the top wire will collapse if the bees cling onto it, to prevent that, the foundation is often inserted into the top grove. If you use no fountaion, the top groove is only needed to insert a starter strip, but normally it is sufficient to just run a line of wax down the middle, with no groove. But best, use plastic.
I make all my own also and do not cut the grooves, just square them up and use glue and staples. never had one come apart or any complaints from the bees.
Thanks for takinģ time to do the video but is there any way to slow your video down as it is too fast for me to fully appreciate your workmanship. Great to see though thanks
Lot of work. Lol. Great job. I may give this a try. I make my own boxes but normally but I assembled frames. Looks fun. :) thanks for sharing and stay safe.
Not really. The Beekeeper accountant did a video about the cost of making frames. He showed that building frames vs buying the parts to assemble them was a $0.01 difference. It was cheaper to build but not by much. I guess it’s just a “pick your poison” moment. On the other hand…. You have a much lesser chance of losing a finger if you just buy them. lol
NOW WHAT AN HOW DO YOU DO THE WAX COMB TO PUT IN THEM THINGS???????? BEEN HUNTING ALL OVER UA-cam TO FIND OUT HOW THATS DONE AN ONY FIND THIS ONE UUUGGGHHH
Looks like you spent over $10 grand worth of wood working equipment that amount would probably give me life time supply of frames minus my time making frames?
The great things about all these machine he uses is , you can use them for multiple purposes, they are not limited to building frames for hives. I hope I helped.
I bought mine before i started beekeeping 30 years ago. I do carpentery work. started beekeeping about6 years ago. i am retired now and my bees, gardens and fruit trees keep me out from under my wifes feet.
After watching some of the horror stories on YT, seeing people ripping without a riving knife or splitter always gives me the willies. One moment of inattention and a board turned cockeyed and pinched between the fence and the up-turning side of the blade, and you could have a board thrown at you really hard and fast. Please consider updating your throat plate with a simple splitter, a little flat piece of hardwood glued into the slot behind the blade, to hold the board against the fence well after it clears the upside of the blade. Awesome job though.
I found it very well demonstrated, he showed all his machine setup and that's what matters... dimensions you have all over the internet..... maybe you should not get close to a machine that can remove some body parts.
That's a great question. I usually work in a more leisurely way and complete my projects over several evenings. I would guess that these frames (about 30) took 3-4 hours from the initial cut to final assembly over several days.
Greetings from Ireland, and thanks for taking the time to make a wonderful video
That's pretty much exactly how I do it but I'm not nearly that fast.
My problem is that I don't have any of these gadgets. Just a sawzall, circular saw, jigsaw and a nail gun. That is it!!
I wonder if a router would be more efficient for removing the excess material from the frame ends.
jup, thats how the pros do it. A big router with a profile bit (kinda like dado blades but for routers). Auto feed the boards and that "profile" then only needs to get sliced into finished pieces. way less cutting!
I make all my own frames have been for 6 years running around 40 hives. One thing I do different is I don't cut that grove in the bottom or the top. You don't need it. Just cut the side bar's a little shorter . And the bottom bar put it on the inside of the side bars . I use 1 1/4 crown staples one down from the top bar each side and one in from the side bars on the bottom bar. For a total of 4 staples. And I glue every thing. Saves a lot of time and work. And am really cheap so I buy my wood from the Amish plane it down. But I get it for 45 cents a board foot. Never had a frame pull apart if u glue them.
I like your idea on not needing the grooves. I am a believer in gluing frames as well. It adds so much strength and have heard the only reason not to glue is to pull them apart easier to replace broken pieces - to which I would say just build more frames! I am a hoarder of wood, so I keep a lot of scrap lumber throughout the year and use it in the spring for all I need!
The groves are only needed if you use plastic foundation. If you use wax foundation, no grooves are needed, but you need to put the top wire within 1 cm (-5/12") of the top, or the foundation over the top wire will collapse if the bees cling onto it, to prevent that, the foundation is often inserted into the top grove. If you use no fountaion, the top groove is only needed to insert a starter strip, but normally it is sufficient to just run a line of wax down the middle, with no groove.
But best, use plastic.
I make all my own also and do not cut the grooves, just square them up and use glue and staples. never had one come apart or any complaints from the bees.
Thanks for takinģ time to do the video but is there any way to slow your video down as it is too fast for me to fully appreciate your workmanship. Great to see though thanks
How many frames can you make in an hour?
Lot of work. Lol. Great job. I may give this a try. I make my own boxes but normally but I assembled frames. Looks fun. :) thanks for sharing and stay safe.
Yeah I'm kind of in the same boat... struggling to decide if my time is more important to me or not. Lol
Hey! amazing video!
I was wondering if it is profitable to run a business out of bee frame making ?
Can you compete with a laser cutter?
We don't need to buy frame again! all we need is the wood making equipment and it costs around 10k usd 😁 great work anyway.
You can get it for a third of that, less if you're patient
Hi do you sell frames for deep bee boxes
I do wood working and after watching this, I'll keep buying my frames as needed. I buy un assembled frames. Its easy and saves so much time
I agree. Interesting video, but frames are not terribly expensive.
geez with the time and electricity required to do all this its just cheaper to buy them...
Not really. The Beekeeper accountant did a video about the cost of making frames. He showed that building frames vs buying the parts to assemble them was a $0.01 difference. It was cheaper to build but not by much. I guess it’s just a “pick your poison” moment.
On the other hand…. You have a much lesser chance of losing a finger if you just buy them. lol
NOW WHAT AN HOW DO YOU DO THE WAX COMB TO PUT IN THEM THINGS????????
BEEN HUNTING ALL OVER UA-cam TO FIND OUT HOW THATS DONE AN ONY FIND THIS ONE
UUUGGGHHH
He now supplies stir sticks for coffee. U need a jointer. U made it look a lot harder then it really is.
Looks like you spent over $10 grand worth of wood working equipment that amount would probably give me life time supply of frames minus my time making frames?
The great things about all these machine he uses is , you can use them for multiple purposes, they are not limited to building frames for hives. I hope I helped.
Plus imagine all the honey you can buy!!!
I bought mine before i started beekeeping 30 years ago. I do carpentery work. started beekeeping about6 years ago. i am retired now and my bees, gardens and fruit trees keep me out from under my wifes feet.
Wow. Not exactly what I was expecting, but fun to watch none-the-less. Great job!
Thanks! For a deeper look at how to make your own frames, check out the blog link in the video description!
Perfect. Thank you.
Do you selling frames
Excellent ! God bless you...
This process is very slow for assembly. I have a process to assemble 10 in around 7 minutes.
Would have been nice if u set out to teach us, other than a video that boasts that you can make them.
Very nice
K! That speed, you realy work like a bee 🚹!!
i wish i had a table saw
bro! You didn't explain anything. What the point of this video?
It was helpful for me
It makes no sense
It is self explanatory.Seeing is much better than explaining
When it comes to bee hives explanations are necessary because bee space is important.
After watching some of the horror stories on YT, seeing people ripping without a riving knife or splitter always gives me the willies. One moment of inattention and a board turned cockeyed and pinched between the fence and the up-turning side of the blade, and you could have a board thrown at you really hard and fast. Please consider updating your throat plate with a simple splitter, a little flat piece of hardwood glued into the slot behind the blade, to hold the board against the fence well after it clears the upside of the blade. Awesome job though.
But we need first buy for wood machines🤔
154$ for 100 pack of unassembled frames… or spend a fun day in the shop…
You need to slow down or else you might get hurt.
That taught me nothing. No explanation, no measurements. What a waste of time!
Sorry about that - Check out our website link in the description for the dimensions and explanation.
He probably should have just built one as a demonstration.
I found it very well demonstrated, he showed all his machine setup and that's what matters... dimensions you have all over the internet..... maybe you should not get close to a machine that can remove some body parts.
Maybe you should stay away from sharp objects since thinking doesn't appear to be your string suit
Good enough for me..glad I came from a generation that had woodshop as a class
Yeah, but you gotta have $1000 worth of tools
Why so fast, can hardly follow.
To shorten the video while showing all the steps. You can play the video slower
👍👍🌹
You should slow down, you're going to loose a finger
You have no directions at all!!!
Who will buy this equipments, you mother
Nolike.
Useless as for as tutorial
My adventure with woodworking started with Woodglut.
How many frames can you make in an hour?
That's a great question. I usually work in a more leisurely way and complete my projects over several evenings. I would guess that these frames (about 30) took 3-4 hours from the initial cut to final assembly over several days.