Pinned Comment with Updates and other things! 1. To be completely honest, dealing with the more aggravated side of Midjourney staff left a sour taste in my mouth. I definitely understand that they are upset, some UA-cam fella had a tin foil hat conspiracy theory that said they botted Discord members. I feel that someone in that position would just laugh it off and label it as jealousy for the massive organic growth. But the very abrasive defense from midjourney seems like I hit a nerve. And hitting a random nerve like that makes me still wonder about the situation as a whole. While a lot of my "proof" in the old video is proven to be false, I still have a gut feeling that something might have happened. Regardless, make of it as you will, it's just an AI art bot that is trying to make you buy a subscription at the end of the day. If there is any major development, expect another video (with some actual concrete information). 2. The 30k member limit for adding midjourney to your server is no longer a thing.
Wow, I got mentioned! I'd just like to say that I am amazed at the speed at which you provided a follow-up video that is concise and informative. I'd like to apologize for my harsh comment in the other video, it was written in the heat of the moment and came off as way more aggressive than necessary. I was just kind of angry because the negative (and what I viewed to be misleading) content of the video could make people have a bad view of Midjourney, and by extension, AI art users in general. I think you handled the situation in the best way possible, and I applaud you for that. Not a lot of UA-camrs do that and I respect you for it :)
NTTS accepts his mistake NTTS quickly make a video correcting his mistake NTTS clearly tell where he was wrong NTTS mentions updated video's link in old video's comment section "BE LIKE NTTS"
When I saw the first video I was like that's a bit confusing as I'm a Trial Moderator for a discord server with 140k+ members and I saw that only 20k people were online when I first saw your video. I did the calculations and it only came to be around 14% of people that were online out of the entire server. You should definitely try to not assume things when making videos like these, and try to ask reputable people (such as moderators) on what happens around the server or why online counts are low and such. Either way I'm glad you made a follow up video on the topic as I know many people were confused! Great stuff.
Massive props to you for admitting your mistakes, not many people youtubers admit their mistakes. Let alone rectifying all of it and showing evidence of how you were wrong
Using stable diffusion can actually be done a lot easier than hosting it on your own computer, because there are several websites that host it for you, for free. And while I believe that Midjourney does make better images, mostly when people say stable diffusion is really bad they're just using it wrong. It needs more/better descriptions and style modifiers, plus it most of the time only gives good results when you find the right cfg scale value.
Bro i just joined the server and typed /imagine prompt: dog right as you were talking about the most common writen phrase in that server that scared the living shit out of me
Alt abuse is still absolutely real on MJ. Auto generated / throwaway emails dont work too well. My method is just making a gmail acc by hand, then discord off that and ur done. Easy credits. You can also abuse the job queue system of MJ - jobs which are already queued will still go through even if you are out of credits.
7:20 I'm on a server, where it's common to purge those accounts, and they don't do this for either of your reasons, they "want to build the member count purely on active accounts". This goes against, what I believe, is the natural selection of discord server popularity. For example, I'm a lurker, and lurkers are what gets servers their popularity in the first place. Ungespielt, a German UA-camr, also is grateful to his lurkers, as that's the reason to his successful career, both as a streamer and video producer.
I used mid for a few things. one being some build ideas for minecraft with some dark souls inspiration. got some nice gens out of it with some nice possible ideas. I've not been on the server for a while, joined within days of it starting. got purged early on before the member cap was increase, might join back. still less interested in paying 10$ just for a picture gen I'll do here and there
Tbh setting up Stable Diffusion UI is super easy and the general way most people do it now. It just tends to break itself and needs to be repaired from time to time.
aye, nice to seeyou admit your mistakes and try to fix em, big respect for that, although I feel like completely deleting the video rather than just adding [OUTDATED] to the title would be better.
So I recently subscribed and started watching NTTS and before that I was in mid journey server but I didn’t really use it so I left crazy to see the story.
Where I think you're wrong is thinking about the discord server as any other discord server. When you say for example, that not many people are online at a time. The server offers a service. It offers a trial of it too. Many people (including me) joined the server, used the trial credits and effed off. Of course not a large portion of people will be online at the same time. Others understandably make alts to have more free credits (any free trial without credit card suffers from this). Yes, they benefit from more members and that's why they allow alts. So?
I’ll be brutally honest. Small form factor PCs are difficult to build in, are typically run hotter (due to less air volume), and cost more due to the SFF premium. If you are just building a normal PC, use pcpartpicker and you’ll have a wonderful experience.
we will see how long it lasts, but they make a BIG deal about not wanting money, most of the money goes into development and servers and such, they are looking into ways of giving more benefits and such, yes they need money but it's not the end goal it sounds like./
IDK when you last tried to run Stable Diffusion, but you absolutely don't need to learn to run Linux or screw around with WSL. Automatic1111's webui makes setup a fairly easy 5-step process. You still need to be somewhat computer-literate, but the barrier of entry isn't nearly as high as you kind of made it out to be.
I watched both of your videos and I appreciate the effort for correction, but how did you know that the Midjourney Bot is in 550K+ servers? That seems way too high and was just a screenshot.
stable diffusion has had massive optimizations done too it. tho i feel it should be mentioned, midjourney is just using a custom version of it. now something that needs correction: there is an easy way to get stable diffusion working locally. its called dream textures and is a addon for blender the 3dmodeling program. it uses stable diffusion build under invoke ai to not only accomplish equal results, but with less confusion. in midjourney you just have a single thing of text where as dream textures has your prompt, seed, camera info, subject info, negative prompts, self editing to tell it whats wrong, and there is alot more coming. the devs for it refuse to stop and refuse to slow down for any reason other than waiting for pull requests to be merged or denied in which case of the later, they implement the idea themselves. i HATE that the subscription service is all people want to talk about. midjourney and DALL-E2 both run subsets of stable diffusion, dall-e runs specifically disco diffusion, and midjourney runs modified stable diffusion, both have custom models for the ai. the biggest issue dream textures has is hands, but im working on a fix for that myself, wont take to much longer, just waiting for textual inversion to complete on my hand images
Honestly I really appreciate that you left this comment! I'm excited to look into dream textures and see if it's a more "user-friendly" version of downloading WSL and doing all that linux crazy stuff.
Midjourney is not " just using a custom version of it.", that's more misinformation. Midjourney has multiple models currently and more in production. There is one Midjourney model that uses some of the same stuff Stable Diffusion uses, so there's parts of it, but it's very much changed. Dall-E 2 is also very obviously not using Stable Diffusion since it's been out for much longer than SD has existed. Disco Diffusion has also existed for much longer than SD or MJ and the developer of Disco Diffusion is on the Midjourney team. Basically everything you have here is completely wrong, baseless misinformation.
@@NoTextToSpeech dream does not require linux but there are ways to make it work on linux. it could really use a linux dev to iron out the details more, but the biggest thing it needs is someone who can put together AMD code for it. currentlyy im using a modified version of it while i wait for the dev to finish implementing my suggestions which shouldnt take too much longer according to carson. its an amazing tool that has empowered the crap out of devs, tho, it does require at minimum 4GB Vram to use.
@@starshadowx2 your right, its very changed, i.e. custom. and no Dall-E 2 has not been out there for much longer. Dall-E has. Dall-E used an entirely different system. as for the models, your aware that the models you can get are generally unpacked to reveal multiple models, right? and also of course there are modifications to them, no one with half a braincell would use a basic model thats only been trained on a single dataset when you want quality. i would know, im literally making some myself because of the drawbacks free models come with
running stable diffusion on ur local machine 𝘤𝘢𝘯 be difficult to do but there are several all in one downloads that you can just download and then immediately start using it. GRISK GUI is one of them.
Pinned Comment with Updates and other things!
1. To be completely honest, dealing with the more aggravated side of Midjourney staff left a sour taste in my mouth. I definitely understand that they are upset, some UA-cam fella had a tin foil hat conspiracy theory that said they botted Discord members. I feel that someone in that position would just laugh it off and label it as jealousy for the massive organic growth. But the very abrasive defense from midjourney seems like I hit a nerve. And hitting a random nerve like that makes me still wonder about the situation as a whole.
While a lot of my "proof" in the old video is proven to be false, I still have a gut feeling that something might have happened. Regardless, make of it as you will, it's just an AI art bot that is trying to make you buy a subscription at the end of the day. If there is any major development, expect another video (with some actual concrete information).
2. The 30k member limit for adding midjourney to your server is no longer a thing.
you are aSilly Sausage!
real
Damn Daniel
ok yes goog job
hi
only good youtubers make an effort to fix their mistakes fast
So true
Agreed my man
yesh
Fr only 10 hours
Wtf get tracked down kidddd I’m in your walls
Wow, I got mentioned!
I'd just like to say that I am amazed at the speed at which you provided a follow-up video that is concise and informative.
I'd like to apologize for my harsh comment in the other video, it was written in the heat of the moment and came off as way more aggressive than necessary. I was just kind of angry because the negative (and what I viewed to be misleading) content of the video could make people have a bad view of Midjourney, and by extension, AI art users in general.
I think you handled the situation in the best way possible, and I applaud you for that. Not a lot of UA-camrs do that and I respect you for it :)
Mad respect to you too kim
Amogus
good comment unfortunately it is not possible to slander art theft.
NTTS accepts his mistake
NTTS quickly make a video correcting his mistake
NTTS clearly tell where he was wrong
NTTS mentions updated video's link in old video's comment section
"BE LIKE NTTS"
i like nuts as well
@@open_mind8617💀💀💀
You're good, thank you for addressing this misunderstanding.
When I saw the first video I was like that's a bit confusing as I'm a Trial Moderator for a discord server with 140k+ members and I saw that only 20k people were online when I first saw your video.
I did the calculations and it only came to be around 14% of people that were online out of the entire server. You should definitely try to not assume things when making videos like these, and try to ask reputable people (such as moderators) on what happens around the server or why online counts are low and such.
Either way I'm glad you made a follow up video on the topic as I know many people were confused! Great stuff.
Thank you for making this video. The original video seemed like something I wouldn't expect you to make, very outlandish and tinfoil hat-like
Massive props to you for admitting your mistakes, not many people youtubers admit their mistakes. Let alone rectifying all of it and showing evidence of how you were wrong
Great job correcting the record so quickly.
i literally just watched the original video like 10 minutes before i got the upload notification for this one. i was like uhhhhh..
same
needed that "i love you sweetheart" damn
Yeah, MidJourney used to purge some inactive users. I guess I was one of them, because I was kicked out of the server seemingly for nothing
Been on discord since 2016 and I’ve never heard about or seen a single ad for this discord
Using stable diffusion can actually be done a lot easier than hosting it on your own computer, because there are several websites that host it for you, for free. And while I believe that Midjourney does make better images, mostly when people say stable diffusion is really bad they're just using it wrong. It needs more/better descriptions and style modifiers, plus it most of the time only gives good results when you find the right cfg scale value.
I’ll definitely start looking into SD more with the help of your and other peoples comments
I did not see this video coming, thanks for correcting yourself despite your mishap!
I think it's pretty cool how Discord is supporting MidJourney for advertising and being the biggest server on the platform.
I'm more surprised that you managed to make a new response video in just a few hours
been watching your channel as an interest that... I didn't know i was interested in, but today you got a sub from this
" I'm a human, I'm not perfect, I know sometimes I be wrong" - Dominique Armani Jones
Overall, seems like a net positive. We ended up getting some pretty cool information out of this, so keep up keeping up notts!
Bro i just joined the server and typed /imagine prompt: dog right as you were talking about the most common writen phrase in that server that scared the living shit out of me
Alt abuse is still absolutely real on MJ. Auto generated / throwaway emails dont work too well. My method is just making a gmail acc by hand, then discord off that and ur done. Easy credits. You can also abuse the job queue system of MJ - jobs which are already queued will still go through even if you are out of credits.
man actually took it back
:salute:
every time he gives that little kiss at the end I shiver and bite my lip
I came
We all do 😩👌
Thanks for this amazing video!
:)
@@NoTextToSpeech No problem, you deserve it
It'll be very interesting to see how Discord deals with server member caps in the future
7:20 I'm on a server, where it's common to purge those accounts, and they don't do this for either of your reasons, they "want to build the member count purely on active accounts".
This goes against, what I believe, is the natural selection of discord server popularity. For example, I'm a lurker, and lurkers are what gets servers their popularity in the first place.
Ungespielt, a German UA-camr, also is grateful to his lurkers, as that's the reason to his successful career, both as a streamer and video producer.
I used mid for a few things. one being some build ideas for minecraft with some dark souls inspiration. got some nice gens out of it with some nice possible ideas.
I've not been on the server for a while, joined within days of it starting. got purged early on before the member cap was increase, might join back. still less interested in paying 10$ just for a picture gen I'll do here and there
Tbh setting up Stable Diffusion UI is super easy and the general way most people do it now. It just tends to break itself and needs to be repaired from time to time.
It seems that sad men in black suits finally arrived at notext's doorstep
stable diffusion is actually really easy to set up, there are videos on youtube explaining every step in around 5 mins total
I didn't know you didnt have to go through the pain of WSL. Thanks for sharing :)
@@NoTextToSpeech nah, I have it on my windows pc, you just need to install some programs like python and github
me when i spread misinformation online
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Street cred + for admitting you made an mistake and fixing it asap. I really enjoy your videos but i have respect for you because of this video
wow i was just watching the video i scrolled down after and saw this.
Wow I just had this video on my recommended and then I refresh and it’s on the exact spot the other video was
Big props to you for fixing your mistakes that quickly ❤
setting up stable is actually quiet easy to set up but it is also as easy to brick making you need to redownload
In a big enough server, the member list becomes impossible to use when scrolling down.
good that you fixed your mistake fastly
aye, nice to seeyou admit your mistakes and try to fix em, big respect for that, although I feel like completely deleting the video rather than just adding [OUTDATED] to the title would be better.
So I recently subscribed and started watching NTTS and before that I was in mid journey server but I didn’t really use it so I left crazy to see the story.
NTTS your like one of the utubers who actaully fixes there mistakes thats what i like about u.
I am just impressed how many member this server has, I didnt even know more than 1 Million was possible
It's very annoying seeing the green update button in the top right of his discord
12:06 Paradox. Genshin Impact players don't have parents.
Midjourney is at almost 11 million users right now, 3 months later.
Where I think you're wrong is thinking about the discord server as any other discord server. When you say for example, that not many people are online at a time.
The server offers a service. It offers a trial of it too. Many people (including me) joined the server, used the trial credits and effed off. Of course not a large portion of people will be online at the same time.
Others understandably make alts to have more free credits (any free trial without credit card suffers from this). Yes, they benefit from more members and that's why they allow alts. So?
Everyone makes mistakes. Only good people correct them.
You can make mistakes it's okay. Just don't lie about being human we all know your our little AI 😊.
Man messed up and it's trying to make up for, it cut him some slack!
Pixai is a good ai art generation that's free to use and easy to use. You can even use it easily on mobile.
Hey, I saw your build, was it fairly easy to put together for you? I've never dabbled with building computers but your set-up seems pretty decent.
I’ll be brutally honest. Small form factor PCs are difficult to build in, are typically run hotter (due to less air volume), and cost more due to the SFF premium. If you are just building a normal PC, use pcpartpicker and you’ll have a wonderful experience.
@@NoTextToSpeech gotcha, thanks a ton
Me used midjourney to make a liz truss with parliament on fire.
thank you!! for this update, very mature of you
Love you too man, be careful with the brownies.
Yo can you make a new updated version of making the ultimate discord server? I would appreciate it :D
Happy to know you fix your mistakes
*Admitting and fixing your mistake.* 😃👍
Man I feel like I should buy discord stock. This company screams it's going to take over everything. I remember when it was small
Only on UA-cam can you see x thing is sus followed by x thing is NOT sus within the same day.
Much love NTTS
it was just a conspiracy theory, no harm was done
we will see how long it lasts, but they make a BIG deal about not wanting money, most of the money goes into development and servers and such, they are looking into ways of giving more benefits and such, yes they need money but it's not the end goal it sounds like./
Woah we were bullshitting ourselves there. Thank god it's not that.
damn wtf that was quick
sounds like you had some lawyers reach out xD
AYE i made it into a video thats me at 10:15 and again at 11:18 and later at 11:40
Saw this one coming few hours ago
Well that was a bit of a rollercoaster, lmao.
youtube tried recommending me the outdated video.
you can hear how midjourney has him held at gunpoint to say this jkjk
I was sad for a second tbh.
edit: before this is seen I mean about the previous one.
imagine if elon musk made a offical discord server. discord would have to give them some special top favorited treatment
9:25 omg hi ven :3
Yeah I've been using it for a while,it's fine
IDK when you last tried to run Stable Diffusion, but you absolutely don't need to learn to run Linux or screw around with WSL.
Automatic1111's webui makes setup a fairly easy 5-step process. You still need to be somewhat computer-literate, but the barrier of entry isn't nearly as high as you kind of made it out to be.
Tell me more?
I watched both of your videos and I appreciate the effort for correction, but how did you know that the Midjourney Bot is in 550K+ servers? That seems way too high and was just a screenshot.
Midjourney is good but”Long Life to crayion the real lord of image generator”
+40k subs in one month? sheesh nice
Wow that was fast
Bro they got his ip 💀
stable diffusion has had massive optimizations done too it. tho i feel it should be mentioned, midjourney is just using a custom version of it.
now something that needs correction: there is an easy way to get stable diffusion working locally. its called dream textures and is a addon for blender the 3dmodeling program. it uses stable diffusion build under invoke ai to not only accomplish equal results, but with less confusion. in midjourney you just have a single thing of text where as dream textures has your prompt, seed, camera info, subject info, negative prompts, self editing to tell it whats wrong, and there is alot more coming. the devs for it refuse to stop and refuse to slow down for any reason other than waiting for pull requests to be merged or denied in which case of the later, they implement the idea themselves. i HATE that the subscription service is all people want to talk about. midjourney and DALL-E2 both run subsets of stable diffusion, dall-e runs specifically disco diffusion, and midjourney runs modified stable diffusion, both have custom models for the ai. the biggest issue dream textures has is hands, but im working on a fix for that myself, wont take to much longer, just waiting for textual inversion to complete on my hand images
Honestly I really appreciate that you left this comment! I'm excited to look into dream textures and see if it's a more "user-friendly" version of downloading WSL and doing all that linux crazy stuff.
Midjourney is not " just using a custom version of it.", that's more misinformation. Midjourney has multiple models currently and more in production. There is one Midjourney model that uses some of the same stuff Stable Diffusion uses, so there's parts of it, but it's very much changed.
Dall-E 2 is also very obviously not using Stable Diffusion since it's been out for much longer than SD has existed. Disco Diffusion has also existed for much longer than SD or MJ and the developer of Disco Diffusion is on the Midjourney team.
Basically everything you have here is completely wrong, baseless misinformation.
@@NoTextToSpeech dream does not require linux but there are ways to make it work on linux. it could really use a linux dev to iron out the details more, but the biggest thing it needs is someone who can put together AMD code for it. currentlyy im using a modified version of it while i wait for the dev to finish implementing my suggestions which shouldnt take too much longer according to carson. its an amazing tool that has empowered the crap out of devs, tho, it does require at minimum 4GB Vram to use.
@@starshadowx2 your right, its very changed, i.e. custom.
and no Dall-E 2 has not been out there for much longer. Dall-E has. Dall-E used an entirely different system.
as for the models, your aware that the models you can get are generally unpacked to reveal multiple models, right?
and also of course there are modifications to them, no one with half a braincell would use a basic model thats only been trained on a single dataset when you want quality. i would know, im literally making some myself because of the drawbacks free models come with
tut tut tut spreading false information around the internet
I use midjourney...
and i can confirm that he understands his mistake.
yammering about 3m members, now they have 10,5m+
Dolle•2 is free with an account so that works for ai art though idk how good it is I haven’t generated much
Beemo logs are funny. I may or may not have the world record for most bans on beemo and am fully blacklisted from using the bot... oops hehe
Your youtube suggestion like me wtf-
i also watch fireship you , fitmc ,puplers (aka purpledragon nuke wtf)
not long after i joined the server i sent mega scam links to all of my pms and some of the servers i was in
I'm just here to leave another like xd
who blackmailed you
How much do do they pay you
Stable Diffusion is brilliant, it just takes a little bit of know how
*So we can still make alts if we wanted to and join?*
It breaks their rules but I can’t tell you how to live.
@@NoTextToSpeech KK (Thanks)
could still be them making excuses because they got caught
wow, their discord server is at 12.7m members now
now they are at 14,3m members O.O
16.4 million members as of may 2023
20 million how?
I personally use Linux as my OS.
I like brownies-
What mouse do you use? Can you link it?
HEHEHEHAW, I JUST DID MISINFORMATION
running stable diffusion on ur local machine 𝘤𝘢𝘯 be difficult to do but there are several all in one downloads that you can just download and then immediately start using it. GRISK GUI is one of them.