Viewer Comments & Questions: Strymon Volante Show - That Pedal Show
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
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The main focus of the Q&A will be the main show that went out on the preceding Friday, but we'll answer other stuff too.
Here's the link to the main show being discussed - it was the detailed look at the Strymon Volante. • Strymon Volante, Vinta...
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Watching a TPS VCQ 3 years later and hearing Mick say "we're running out of time" at around 30 minutes is hilarious!
People _want_ to think some multi effects sound "digital"... If the Mobius for example can replicate most modulation needs, your chase is gone. It steals the journey.. So some people will argue it's failure simply to keep their journey alive. Sure, you can pull out some univibes that sound a little sweeter, but to say it sounds "digital" is a quite obscure stretch. If it works for you rock on, if it doesn't, rock on. I love my Strymon gear and am an owner of a Mobius. I'm also the owner of a Spectravibe for it's analog vibrato and univibe textures. I also have analog tremolo on my amp... But I find the Mobius tremolo is actually better sounding to my ears.. even though it's digital. It is not cut and dry.
I was so upset the first time I tried analog delays only to find that this crazy magic is _barely_ better than, and often not even as good as the sound of some digital effects. I use my El Cap far more than my Tonal Recall RKM.
TLDR: Effects are all subjective, use other's opinions to help you along, but don't view them as absolute truths. You may agree with 70% of the norm and find that the other 30% is completely different.. and as Devo says... That's good!
Always love the show. Mick with regards to your roses they are the telecaster of the horticultural world; the original, the most beautiful and virtually indestructible. The goals for pruning are to get rid of dead and diseased stems, remove stems that touch each other and to provide a pleasing shape. There is no "right time" and don't be too precious. As with guitar gear there are no hard and fast rules... You just have to try it out. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one for whom appreciating beautiful plants and a cranked guitar sound are mutually exclusive. Thanks for all your great shows.
I bought one. Had to have it. Now that I have it- I LOVE it! Volante is a great delay pedal. Sounds amazing.
Old thread, but wondering if you still have it and how you like it long-term. I'm trying to figure out which tape echo pedal to add to my board, mainly for home studio use. Thanks
Guys thank you for adding the VCQ’s. The videos were always helpful but adding VCQ on Monday takes the information to the next level.
Re: using delays in a band context, I have the Empress Echosystem with 10 easily accessible presets with everything from chorus, slap, Edge 1/4 + dotted 1/8th / Andy Timmons type echo to reverse and ambient. I then just pick the relevant patch for the song I’m playing. Job done!
This morning I rushed out of my warm comfy home into the blistering cold of a Colorado winter morning, drove to the local truck stop and pulled up this weeks q and a episode. Gentlemen, where is the car? I thought we were building a tradition together...
Hahaha!!! Dan came here to the studio today because we were filming other vids. Sorry man, we left you auto-hangin'
To the guy who has 18 pedals and plays at home, then if love good tone you absolutely need good power and a switcher. I did good power about 3 years ago and added a switcher at Christmas. Both make a big difference to noise and tone. Oh, and get down to 10 pedals so you have one per loop in the switcher (or 8 or 5 or whatever).
Hurrah, I’ve had a major breakthrough in my ‘tone quest’. I put new strings (D’Addario NYXL) on two guitars (mex tele and a resissue of an SG-shaped Les Paul ). I cleaned the electronics in both with contact cleaner. And I took turns plugging them straight into a Princeton 65 reissue. I set the volume and eq to taste for each guitar.
And it sounded effing inspiring.
Having put together a pedal board over the past few years, including pedals suggested by TPS, there was something lovely about this plug and play vibe.
Lesson learned: get the core sound right and add pedals for colour (or not).
But don’t rely on pedals to ‘fix’ anything.
All the best,
Andrew
Need a new product...."That Petal Show"...for all rose-related advice....
Beat me to it!
Wonderful! I see a T shirt.
All we need is gloves? Gloves is all we need
@@jolkraeremeark6949 Dammit! I spluttered my morning coffee!
🤣
Hey Mick...the rose related subject. Good time to prune them is when new growth starts to appear on them. Majority of mine now have new growth appearing so i’ll be pruning them any time now. Good rule of thumb is to cut away the oldest stems first and any weak spindly or damaged stems too. Roses are really hardy plants so don’t worry about them too much. Happy gardening 😊👍🏻
You guys just rock. Thanks for all the content.
Cheers
This episode should be praise for the honesty in both Dan and Mick into answering gig applications for the Volante and all the questions.
You guys are the most honest players that have been showing us soooo many things that we appreciate and help us grow as musicians.
We salute you. Keep rocking.
Absolutely love you guys videos. I've learned a ton! And spent way too my money because of you... I'm really impressed at how enthusiastic you continue to be and how well you handle criticism and such. So refreshing in today's internet world.
I love the way you're interacting with us out here. TPS is required watching for me at least twice a week. More if either of you go insane for a bit.
If you want more Echo Rec type stuff, re-visit the boss dd500 as an echo Rec sound was added an update since you looked at it last. It would make a good comparison I think!
Never a complaint here. You guys are amazing
I recently got back into guitar and discovered your show, which I find very informative and entertaining. Thank you.
You are both far too modest, i love listening to you both. I've even bought a tele, as a strat person thats something I never thought would happen. The show is magical for lots of reasons, but all these people wouldnt love it if they (and I) didn't love listening to your playing!.
Thanks for the answer guys, much appreciated! Very excited to see the reverb vid too, particularly given the way Dan's face lit up when he mentioned it...
(Mick was bang on, by the way, I've been using a Spring King for ages and they are exactly as awesome as he says)
Hi Mick,
I'm in Canada and from what I know and have done myself, this is pretty accurate....I clipped it from Better Homes and Gardens lol........
In general, you will be pruning rose bushes just before the plant breaks dormancy after spring's final frost. This will be early in the year in warm climates, and anytime between January and April in cold climates.
If it's old roses you are tending, prune them after blooming. They bear flowers on last year's wood. When rose pruning, cut away the dead wood first-it will help you "see" the shape of the plant without distraction. It's a good idea to visit a public rose garden and find specimens of roses you are growing. Note how the gardeners have pruned roses of the same type.
In cold-winter climates, pruning roses in spring is often reduced to one option: Simply cut back the wood that was killed in winter. In warm climates, pruning can be done at any of three levels, depending on your purpose. Severe pruning (cut to leave three or four canes, 6 to 10 inches high) produces fewer but larger blooms. Moderate pruning (five to 12 canes cut to 18 to 24 inches) makes for a larger bush. And light pruning (less than one-third of the plant is thinned out) increases the number of short-stemmed flowers that will be produced.
Brilliant. Really sensible, practical advice about the compromises that we have to make. And some love for Mesa Eng. who make great amps for everyone, not just for the Triple Rec metal shredders...
been loving your nod to Jeff Beck's brush with the blues Mick hopefully you continue deeper in !
I prune my roses before the Winter sets in and get a really good display of blooms in the summer.
Me too -usually in mid November.
Thay crazy E chord is poignantly beautful... and a finger destroyer! And I have HUGE hands. I'm amazed, Dan, that can pull that out whilst playing.
Lol! I have those seasons of insanity too! Must be the OCD. (FYI, I saw this great shirt I should have bought, it said "I have CDO, that's OCD in alphabetical order...AS IT SHOULD BE!" :)
Guys. Board on a budget episode is definitely needed. For the home player, young guys starting out or anyone looking for great tone on a budget. I have about 12 pedals but never use more than 3 at a time so no need for expensive power sources, and I made my board out of timber I found in the shed. I know you’ve touched on this before, but it would be great to revisit and remind people a couple of pedals on a simple board is all you need. A decent guitar and a great amp is needed obviously, if you can afford it. By the way, I love the show. Cheers.
Many thanks Guys :)
Hello from sunny Florida USA! You guys are incredible!! Please keep doing what you’re doing. Dan & Mick, you are both amazing guitar players! Dan, your intro for the Volante was inspiring!! You guys are just absolutely incredible!! Wish I could just spend all my money on just you guys to fund all the fun and enjoyment I get out of having you 2 in my (UA-cam/Social Media) life! I truly hope someday I get the chance to actually meet you guys! It would just warm my heart.
Much love for you guys and everything you do!! PLEASE keep this going!!!
Dennis K.
Loved the video and the playing. Stunning sounds. Loved hearing the Supro Black Magik. For myself, I thought the Belle Epoch Deluxe and Boonar sounded warmer; though maybe not as ridiculously versatile. If I don't have some constraints I'll never get anything done.
Funny you mentioned the Cali Tweed Mick... the guitar v amp question I had for you last week, the conclusion of that is... I’m now on the waiting list for a Cali Tweed to arrive in NZ!
Cheers again
Dan, for your exchange at 3:55, it is called Virtuous Circle. It is magical when it happens
I didn’t comment on the original vid, but I’ve got to say...the Volante sounded absolutely sublime. Well worth the hefty asking price. Unfortunately, it seems to have sold out EVERYWHERE. I will be getting one when they become available.
That said, I’m still waiting for my fecking color drive, ordered 3 months ago. So patience is a necessary virtue when following this channel!
Please coin a phrase for that "soul > hands > amp > ears > soul" loop you mentioned...like a Pashion Feedback Loop or something...I completely get what you mean...when I purchased my Vox AC15 I think my talent trippled overnight just because it was inspiring...all of my pedals sounded better...all of my bends sounded better...all of my guitars sounded better...and it made me buy more gear...so...broke but happy
Thank you for addressing my question about how to manage ground loops and amp phase issues when using a stereo pedal output. That is why you guys rock! Mick - Prune once in December and you're good to go! BTW, I'm great with 1:15 videos on a great subject like the one last week.
I've actually started transcribing Dan's Volante solo so I could learn it. I'm also doing the same with Devin Townsend's opening jam.
Pink Floyd, David Gilmour, Binson... all of the joy.
I kept waiting for you guys to get into the Amber playback head feature. Something that is totally unique to the Volante as far as I know.
Amazing instalment on the Volante, Mick & Dan! I really enjoyed it. Unlike the most vocal critics, I am on the side preferring the tone out of the Volante relative to the originals (but I will say the RE201 is a class of its own). Whatever Pete & Co. have crammed into that analogue signal path of the Volante just sounds glorious - so fat and clear. Thanks!
‘Soulishly’. That’s gotta be a Michael McDonald album?!
Gnnnghhhhh. Yeah baby!
I reckon Sam and Dave....
Michael McDonald rocks too ! The man played for years with the brilliant Jeff "Skunk" Baxter...Yeah baby 😊
Isn't there a pedal that does that?
I cut mine pretty low to the ground sometime after they stopped blooming. Cut away dead wood first, and from there prune to encourage the shape you want for the plant. I found roses tend to crowd themselves and need help spreading growth out. If I remember correctly, try for 3 or maybe 4 main stalks. They seem nearly impossible to kill, so I wouldn't worry over it much. Also, I'm a total hack gardener. So heed better advice as you find it.
You can switch presets on the Volante without using midi, if I’m correct you hold the favorite button and then tap one of the tape heads to switch to the preset, but I don’t know how to save a preset
Also, I think you can use the Volante as a loop, you can loop a chord progression and then just hold the infinite button. I’m pretty sure it won’t degrade and anything you play won’t layer on top, I’m pretty sure at least.
Can't understand watching this on a phone?! Always get a respectable set up for your show, and Mick - your engineering work does not go unnoticed, so thank you!! Sterling work as always.
Agreed...best gear channel on youtube.
Can't stop being distracted by the DB meter SORRY!. :(
I managed to nab a dyna comp for £40 on your advice by the way.. cant wait to try it =)
Guys I love your show. I have a M5 modeler and use it most often either for reverb or as a tube drive. But many times I feel like using both at the same time. Given my limited budget, would you buy a dedicated reverb or a tube screamer? I have a fuzz pedal but don't use it too much. Thanks!!!
I created a 11 pedal board with an mxr brick (2 18 volt pedals) and a joyo pxl8 loop for about 300$ total. With case. Smart bypass and buffer placement makes it awesome. Learned all that from some show on UA-cam...
Hi Dan Hi Mick,
Well, after an episode with a grass pedalboard, an other containing a geranium overdrive, Mick seems inspired to take up fretboard farming.
Mr Justin B left a nice guide to prune roses, i would like to add that you should cut just above an outward facing bud located in the knots.
Its the thicker part of the branches, the slimmer parts are called limbs.
Good luck!
@thatpedalshow Can’t wait for the pedal board friendly spring reverb unit episode! I personally have a Van-Amps(brand) Reverbamate(product line) SoleMate(actual model). If you’ve never heard of them you should absolutely check them out. It’s a fantastic piece of gear that’s absolutely giggable with.
Long time fan here... I'm really appreciating how the show has leveled-up; seems to me that it came on soon after the JHS shows and the intro of your other channels... anyways, I'm not sure how you managed it but glad you did... keep it up, always great chemistry and tons of info from you both.... So, I found my guitar thing with a tele, an old line 6 for a selection of "clean" amps with my pedals out front. I use a bit of the six's delay and my own with my chorus reverb etc... but lately I have had to get a bunch of original songs done on a piano. So I was wondering if you would ever consider doing a show for keyboards with pedals... thanks for all of your hard work and dedication. stu
Could not possibly agree more regarding a tone that inspires you and the effect on your playing. Had my latest revelation when I played my Les Paul through my new Bad Bob Boost (I wonder where I got that idea from) into my AM modded OD9 into my Wampler Pantheon... Hairs were standing on end...!!
Monday morning... Cup of Coffee... Dogs at my feet in the office... A new TPS VCQ. All is right in the world!
Just FYI, to access multiple presets for the Volante, Strymon sells the MultiSwitch Plus for US$129. It's a 3 button footswitch that can control 3 assigned parameters or presets on 1 pedal or 1 on 2 or 3 Strymon pedals.
I was really blown away with the Volante, but when you answered the question about the pedal getting lost in the mix it really helped me. I'm typically not very prolific and really only do any work as musician in rock cover bands. Sorry to Strymon, but I doubt this will be a purchase from me based on this feedback! It looks like it was a lot of fun though!
great playing on the volante demo....
Looking forward to the spring reverb show. Tell me you tried out a Catalinbread Topanga? I figured if it was good enough for Kirk Fletcher, it was good enough for me, but it'd be great to see it put through its paces in the context of what else might be available today. (=
Hello Dan and Mick: As part of becoming interested in pedals and effects and researching and building my own pedalboard, I created an Excel (Windows)/Numbers (Apple) database that tracks/includes every episode of TPS, beginning with the first one on February 27, 2015. The database includes information on every pedal reviewed, a hyperlink to each episode, guest interviewed, and amps and guitars used by the two of you. Over the years I've continued to maintain it as a matter of course and it's current. TPS fans have requested such a database and you yourselves have talked about it and, well, I have already done this. I wanted to offer it to you guys and TPS fans for their/your use - as kind of a thanks for the show, which I obviously really enjoy. You can do anything you like with it and/or modify it in any way that you like. All the information comes from TPS’s (and TheGigRig's) UA-cam channels and watching each episode. If you have any questions feel free to ask or email me. Thanks.
Entertainingly tangential as always. Looking forward to the Spring Reverb Ep. Fun Fact: Dano Spring King really only uses the Spring for the "kick" feature; delay is generated by a PT2399 digital chip.
If I had to choose one, The Empress Echosystem or the Strymon Volante (When it comes to tape/echo rec sounds) ? How about as the too go delay unit?
Requests please:
1. The Space echo shootout would be awesome, when you do it, please compare the Chorus in the later RE-501, etc. to the old Boss Chorus ensemble, is it the same circuit & can you use the echo, chorus & reverb all at the same time?
2. Selmer Zodiac 30 amp demo & comparison Vs the Vox AC 30?
Thanks!
Hello Mick! I hope this letter finds you happy and well. I live just slightly above the 45th parallel in Portland, Oregon, USA. I get it from a very reliable source that we should prune roses sometime in February. I use this method to great success. Best Wishes, Mark.
Thank you Mark!
Love when you guys talk about belly pox. Eric Johnson has a belly pox problem, he's got three of them!
Thank you for everything you guys do for knotheads like me! How about the Longamp Ultimate Time Machine? That would be an excellent pedal to include in this type of review and 3 different type of echo/delay on one side and reverb on the other.
I’ve been hooked on the EarthQuaker Avalanche Run v2 and the Meris Polymoon.....kind of bored with tape/drum delays even tho the tones I’ve always been very fond of. The polymoon just opens other worlds lol.
Please Strymon, make a smaller pedal with only the Echo/Delay unit of the Volante. I allready have a great Reverb (Neunaber Immerse MK II) and a great Looper (Pigtronics Infinity Looper)!
Good gravely that’s a stretch! Thanks Dan!
Don't know if you've got the Gurus Sinusoid in your spring-pedal shootout....if you want to borrow mine, I'm just in Bristol!!
I think Strymon should make a proper 19" rackmount version of the Volante for the studio, as it could be so useful and inspiring for the things it can do with recorded tracks - basically, every old tape trick in the book at your fingertips.
Agreed, I ordered one for my studio to treat like a tape/echorec
This is a great idea...
Mark Hammer
I thought the Magneto was just a 4 Head tape delay, with the looper and spring reverb.
The drum Head delay makes the Volante a bit different.
I’m waiting anxiously for Mick’s flash of insanity. Rebuilding a guitar is pretty much the most fun you can have!
I'll have grab some head phones eventually. Speaking of cheap Tape Echo pedals I recently grabbed a Gauss Tape Echo and have been pleasantly surprised just how great it sounds.
Thanks for doing the vids always really helpful, would you ever do a kemper episode with pedals?
Not on the agenda currently. We tend to avoid anything and everything with 100 per cent A/D D/A conversion. Although it's become a line in the sand that is starting to annoy people. So the current stance is that if anyone wants to send us one for a few months we'll at least play with it. Cheers!
Slightly related question about delay: Lately I've been struggling with my delay (DD-7). I can't find the sweet spot between "can't even tell it's on" and "way too much". Any tips for conquering that?
The burp on last year's NAMM video was better HAHA! Speeeeeeakerrrrrrr!
"Voxy & Tweedy" (which is how I roll, myself) - they sound like 70's Playmates.
And that's a good thing.
TPS videos just make the day better
You guys have any experience with the original Gibson The Paul? I have a 79 and it's amazing and onkt cost me £450
Great show guys... What are those three TPS "pedals" behind you? (the black, orange and silver/green ones)
A very kind gentleman made them for us. They're lights - we love them!
Much better in the studio than in a noisy bar!
Agree. I wanna Hear Every Word . . . these 2 have to Say.
It would be great if you could install the Galaxy Tape Echo (RE-201 model) in your UA interface and include that in the RE comparisons. The 14-day demo may be enough?
Thanks for answering my question yes I frequently listen to it on headphones and it is Magic the Volante was impressive perhaps the ultimate wet dry wet Volante the two Rock,Dan's ac30 and either the high watt or Pro Reverb using the color booster the D&M Drive the Belle Epoch Deluxe the vent Mini and the new Deja vibe running the two wet amps in stereo I think it might melt your brain
Can it sound like a simple analog delay too? (mxr carbon copy, Boss DM-2...)
I know you guys normally don't do this but I'd love a show understanding how you approach playing the guitar. Maybe understanding what your "lightbulb" moments have been while learning guitar. You are both tremendous players. Thanks!
Thanks Sean! Maybe there's some vlog activity in there at some point. Playing with other humans is the thing that's been essential for me. I'm too lazy to practise guitar and I actually don't particularly enjoy playing on my own. Mick here. But when there are humans and music, I blimmin love it. Dan has more discipline and actually practises!
@@ThatPedalShow I really need to find humans to make music with. It's tricky when you pick up guitar in your late 20s (early 30s now) and miss out on all that from your youth.
Great show as always! Don't know if you'll read this but worth a go...I've just a Way Huge Supa Puss to a replace a Boss DD7. Love the way it sounds and it's definitely an upgrade. I ran my delay previously in the effects loop of my Orange TH30 (a buffered series loop) and this sounds great. When I use the Supa Puss in the loop it's great but whenever I have the trails on it causes a loud popping noise. I've tried placing a buffer before it but I can't get rid of the pop! Would you guys happen to have any idea how I could solve this? Cheers!
So this is a general question strymon Volante or catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe which should have a home on my pedalboard?
Hey guys, would you consider doing a new video on dumble style amps? Like start at the lower budget stuff like ceriatone and all the way up to things like the two rock and such? Loved the delay video!
I'm surprised there hasn't bet a ceriatone used on here yet
Gary Stead In the old video they did like 4 years ago they had a fuchs ods but I think besides the two rock that’s all they’ve really had
I have one Dumble bucket-list dream: cranked, driven hard with a metal zone (preferably with an old noisy power supply...and unshielded old strat pups, maybe playing the Ramones' Beat on the Brat...Dan playing, after at least 4 large beers!).
dammit! My fingers won't stretch far enough to play that beautiful chord. But thanks for sharing.
I live in a temperate but dryer and more variable climate, similar though - always mind location when it comes to gardening advise. I think we can assume your varieties are sensitive for cold snaps, mine maybe tougher. Varieties matter. Generally fall pruning is most risky and mid spring the safest. Shoulder seasons, when might get a cold snap within a few weeks of pruning can kill. All these ideas are based on the fact pruning tells plant to grow and this is dangerous if a hard freeze comes when the plant isn’t dormant - this is the central theory. That allows that if the plant is dormant, dead off winter, while snow is on the ground or temps are under freezing you can also prune safely as the plant won’t respond with growth. This is great because the plant doesn’t resist and spring back with growth. In spring you can prune but often the “empire strikes back” in spring and you get more plant exactly where you wanted to remove it. For this reason winter pruning it the most effective. There is one more rule: if you trim all branches even you get less resistance.
Was that "Ken's Theme" from Street Fighter Dan was singing?!
I plan on “investing” the time to learn the deep dark secrets of the Volante after my wife hopefully invests in one for my birthday. This bday will end in a zero (or zed as you might say), which always seems to be more troubling for some reason.
If you borrow all the space echos could we get a comparison bewteen the models like a 150 vs a 201? The 201 is almost double the price of a 150
Would love to see you guys mess with a Ludwig Phase 2. The sound from the intro of the Diamond Sea by Sonic Youth.
I've been watching since nigh' on the beginning and you've answered a multitude of brilliant questions, but let's not piss about. Dan. What order do these songs fall in for you:
Private Universe
It's Only Natural
Sinner
Message To My Girl
Fall At Your Feet
Ha! Love your work guys, all the way from Down Under.
Ok, tricky one
1. Private Universe
2. Fall At Your Feet
3. Sinner
4. Message To My Girl
5. Only Natural
@@ThatPedalShow indeed! Nice order though ; )
28:33 - "I'm waiting for something" - it's a Headrush Gigboard, isn't it? I'd heard they'd been delayed until April...
Prune roses after they start to bud in spring.
Wait - are those TPS logo lamps in the shape of a pedal? Did I miss those being released?
You need to follow TPS on Instagram, too! :) instagram.com/p/BtonNZ7l2b_/
I have the Foxgear Echosex Baby ...zero problems ...it sounds awesome totally pro I use it more then my Empress Echosystem
so you know it's got to cut it!
I thought it sounded awesome! Must investigate the issue. Cheers!
Fellers, could you show me the difference changing dc voltage has in a pedal? My Earthquaker Depths
(which I adore) has 9 and 18 volt options. You may of already touched on this, but would love some insight. Wearing me shirt proudly. Remy
0:04 sounds like Ken's theme from Street Fighter II 😂
4-6 pedals is usually my limit for pedals..........saying that.....GC-Pro and GCX switcher....loops go wild.
In case I've missed a response: Presets on Volante... hold "favorite" and each "playback head/repeat" button become a preset spot. So you have 8.